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NBA owners, players union meet with mediator again (Web links)

October 19, 2011 | 10:45 am

Derek Fisher

--The Times' Lance Pugmire notes that the 16-hour meeting Tuesday between the NBA's owners, players union and federal mediator George Cohen started up again Wednesday morning.

--TrueHoop's Henry Abbott talks to sources who indicated that the marathon Tuesday-into-Wednesday-morning meeting didn't bring substantive progress.

--ESPN.coms's J.A. Adande appreciates Jerry West's candor about his insecurities.'s Steve Aschburner believes the owners and players union have more urgency in their discussions. 

--CBS Sports' Ken Berger reports from a source that Cohen helped take the emotions out of negotiations. Still, the source indicated that no definitive progress was made.

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr explains why West hates his father.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding argues that former Lakers Coach Phil Jackson had good reason to shut out West's influence with the Lakers.

--Pro Basketball Talk's Kurt Helin is tired of both sides making little progress.

--Fox Sports' Randy Hill says a new collective-bargaining agreement would hurt the Lakers.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Andy Kamenetzky isn't surprised about Magic Johnson jokingly digging at LeBron James' playoff failures.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin notes Shannon Brown's money quote to ESPN's Stephen A. Smith about David Stern's public relations tactics on the lockout: "It's like a guy who wants to get next to a chick. He's going to tell her anything he wants just to get next to her. Just like the audience and the fans are being told anything (by the owners' side) just to keep them from going super-crazy about what's really going on behind the scenes."

--Sheridan Hoops' Chris Sheridan remains optimistic that a deal will come soon.'s Mike Trudell reflects on Del Harris' coaching career.

--Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski talked to someone in the meeting on whether the owners and players union closed any gaps. That person's take: "On small stuff. Hard to see where this is going."

--Hardwood Hype's Emile Avanessian reflects on Byron Scott's career with the Lakers.

Tweet of the Day: "Can't hazard guess as to what this means, but further talks later today has to mean there's some reason for it." -- KBergCBS ('s NBA writer Ken Berger)

Rick Friedman Reader Comment of the Day: "We need to be as fair as we can on both sides. Listen to what all has to be said and not judge who should have done what  when all parties involved could have come to an agreement." -- Kimberly-Jackson Smiley

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: The Lakers' Derek Fisher. Credit: Bebeto Matthews / Associated Press /Oct. 4, 2011