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NBA lockout: Players union pessimistic about season

September 14, 2011 | 10:15 am

Derek Fisher

--The Times' Ben Bolch explains how expanded groups representing both the NBA owners and players union failed to make progress toward a new collective bargaining agreement in a five-hour meeting Tuesday in New York.

--TrueHoop's Henry Abbott looks at how revenue sharing would affect NBA teams, including the Lakers.'s J.A. Adande sums up the NBA labor negotiations this way: "Owners: Give us our money back. Players: You can't have it."

--Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick wonders if the players union will decertify. 

--Fox Sports Ohio's Sam Amico looks at the disagreement the owners and players take regarding a hard cap.'s Steve Aschburner analyzes the issue surrounding the hard cap and soft cap. 

--The New York Times' Howard Beck notes the pessimism coming out of Tuesday's meeting.'s Ken Berger explains how the owners and players are actually nearing agreement. 

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr highlights Matt Barnes' new tattoo.

--Ball Don't Lie's Eric Freeman muses about Ron Artest's daughter, Diamond, wanting to change her last name too to World Peace. 

--Pro Basketball Talk's Kurt Helin holds out some hope the NBA season will start on time. 

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky wonders whether Derek Fisher might play in the Impact Basketball League because negotiations stalled.'s Chris Sheridan believes the owners and union are posturing and maintains optimism the season will start on time.'s Shaun Powell looks a the public relations component surrounding negotiations.'s Sekou Smith wonders where negotiations can go from here. 

--ESPN Los Angeles' Stephen A. Smith argues Kobe Bryant needs to be more involved with the labor negotiations. 

--Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski believes the NBA owners won't compromise. 

--Forum Blue and Gold's Darius Soriano recalls Magic Johnson's junior skyhook in Game 4 of the 1987 NBA Finals.

--Silver Screen and Roll's Dexter Fishmore believes the NBA season won't start anytime soon.  

Tweet of the day: "Diff between NBA lockout and NFL lockout: fans would have flipped out if we even missed ONE week of football. Not true for hoops. At all." -- sportsguy33 ( columnist Bill Simmons)

Rick Friedman reader comment of the day: "[Shaq] was the main part in the 3peat. Witout him we dont get those rings. No matter how ugly the trade was u gotta respect wat he did for us. Retire his number." -- Ali Mandighomi

--Mark Medina

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Photo: NBA Players Assn. President Derek Fisher, left, and union director Billy Hunter prepare to speak to reporters after meeting with owners' representatives in New York on Aug. 31. (Henny Ray Abrams / Associated Press / August 31, 2011)