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Ron Artest discusses concept behind new reality show

What with daily two-hour workouts, expressing giddiness over the hiring of a new coach and engaging in weekly sand-ball pickup games with fans, Lakers forward Ron Artest seems to be making the best of his offseason.

"The gym work is going well," Artest said in a phone interview with the Los Angeles Times ' Lakers blog en route to a taping an episode of "Jimmy Kimmel Live," slated to air Thursday. He said he's been working out frequently with reserves Derrick Caracter and Trey Johnson. "I'm going to come back another player. I'm excited to play for Coach [Mike] Brown. There's nothing to complain about."

Well, there are a few things. Artest would rather be playing in the NBA Finals right now instead of tweeting about the Miami Heat-Dallas Mavericks championship series.  And as enthusiastic as he is about discussing the concept behind his upcoming reality show, "Last Second Shot," where he talks with prisoners and parolees about changing their lives, there's one statistic that continuously bothers him. And it's not his  career-low 8.5 points per game during the 2010-11 season. Artest is concerned about overcrowding in the prison system. The L.A. Times' Tim Rutten recently noted that California's 33-prison network, designed to hold 80,000 convicts, in fact holds 143,435 inmates. 

"My whole goal one day is to cut the jail system in half with the amount of inmates in there," Artest said. "Just cut it in half and see what we can do and how we can work together and fall back to education, because right now America is losing that education battle around the world. You take it step by step. You don't try it overnight. It might take 20 to 30 years. It might take a long time, but we'll continue to work together." 

It sounds like Artest is running for office, but he's just outlining the vision he has for his reality television show that's slated to begin filming sometime this month with 44 Blue Productions, which already produced MSNBC's "Lockup," a documentary series that focuses on the U.S. prison system. As an extension of his work with mental-health issues that ultimately earned him the 2010-11  J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award, Artest plans to visit correctional facilities with mental-health experts and talk to inmates.

The show hasn't been picked up by a network yet, but Artest is spending part of his summer filming enough material for eight to 10 episodes with confidence that it'll spark interest.  Artest's own history adds some intrigue. Although he's moved well beyond them now, some memorable incidents in the past hurt Artest's reputation. In 2004, as an Indiana Pacer, he was involved in the Malice at the Palace, when he went into the Pistons crowd after beer was thrown at him and punched a fan. In 2007, as a Sacramento King, Artest pleaded no contest to misdemeanor domestic abuse, earning him 100 hours of community service. In other words, this show is no "Khloe & Lamar." Though it should be noted that Artest says he watches the reality show featuring teammate Lamar Odom and wife Khloe Kardashian frequently. It wasn't clear if he was serious.

"I watch Lamar's show every night," said Artest, who added that his wife, Kimsha Hatfield, planned to be in a separate reality show. "I love the Kardashians. I feel like they're family. I feel like they're one of my best friends. I know Khloe, Kim and Rob. They all make me feel like family."

Still, Artest hopes for more substantive subject matter in his new show. But, like Odom, he's been met with concerns that this venture will be simply an off-court distraction. Artest tweeted to fans, "everyone assumes cause I do other things Im not focused on bball? I work out 2 hours everyday. Dont u do other things when u leave work?" He then later mentioned how his only shoot during the 2010-11 season was for a music video for his rap single, "Go Loco," following the Lakers' triple overtime win March 22 over the Phoenix Suns when the team had time off the following day. Artest also scrapped earlier plans to have a reality show during the 2010 NBA playoffs because he said former Lakers Coach Phil Jackson asked him to hold off on filming.

"I didn't want to upset Phil," Artest said, "so I was thinking of a concept of just doing it during the summertime."

That time is now, and Artest hopes to become part of the solution in reducing overcrowding in the prison system.

"A lot of them wish they weren't in there and knew they made mistakes," Artest said of the convicts. "It's reality. Most of them aren't going to get a second shot, and most of them are going to get turned down with landing a job. So rather than feel like they're not wanted in this world, I want to make them feel wanted and needed because they can help a 12-year-old kid that grew up just like [them] that are on their path. They need to hear what not to do."

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Love Ron Ron, but despite his personal charisma the fact is his offensive woes hurt the Lakers last season.

I also disagree that the Buss family is looking to stand-pat. They're not going to make a deal just to make one, but since when has Dr. Buss ever stood around when changes are necessary. One thing they have never done is failed to make changes when needed.

We have a gaping hole at point guard. These four late draft picks the Lakers have gives them the luxury of one or two reaches and not hurt them. They have a shot at getting a quick guard there, but we're probably talking backup-material.

One name I haven't seen come up is Tony Parker. They have George Hill waiting for his shot. Parker surely hurt team chemistry with his affair with Brent Barry's ex. His statements that the Spurs 'window has closed' probably turned off a lot of management. I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved.

How about Lamar for Parker? They certainly could use Lamars length in their frontcourt. Dollarwise, the Lakers could throw in a Blake and make it work.

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MM: A technical-related note, for whatever reason TypePad has stopped playing nice with FireFox (vers 3.6). This happened about a week ago. It would hang whenever logging in and redirecting back to the blog page. This happened a few times, clicking the 'click here to return' link would also hang.

I'm using Google Chrome to post this message, just wanted to give you a heads up about that in case it might be happening to anyone else. I've resisted upgrading to FireFox v4 due to a couple of incompatible add-ons I currently run on 3.6, but when I finally upgrade I'll let you know if it works OK with FireFox 4.

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LakerTom: Thanks for posting the link to the Pincus article. He knows his stuff, especially the salary cap and CBA-type things. I still remember him posting on lakersground in the late-90s. He also has a good handle on the types of players that might be trade bait and those that teams have had grumblings about.

The amnesty provision is just a rumor at this point, but if it does go through that is where the Lakers could really get a find. I'm sure a lot of those guys would love to come play in L.A.

Pincus mentions Boobie Gibson, someone I thought would be a nice pickup before the trade deadline, plus he also thinks there is a chance Portland finds a way to jettison Brandon Roy. I would love Roy, the Lakers could make him more of a straight-up shooter. If Kobe is playing basically bone-on-bone, Roy could grit it out and do it too I would think. We could limit his limits here in L.A.

Now that Rubio signed with the T'Wolves I guess it's pretty much a certainty they'll move Flynn. I have also seen that the Wolves are also looking to trade out of their draft positions and might be open to trading Michael Beasley, too. Now, Pau probably makes too much to make a trade with them work, but how about a L.O. for Beasley/Flynn/#2 pick? That does seem like a lot, they do have a #20 pick also, maybe that is more reasonable.

Anyways, a lot of good posts this weekend, hope Mitch reads the blogs, it could help give him some hints he could use...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

I hope the Lakers FO gets rid of players with off-court distractions either by fiat or by trade. Hard to imagine these player-millionaires need the money, so it must be a fame quest. Either way, it takes away too much from their "day" job of Laker player, IMO.

There are probably many quality NBA players who would gladly join Kobe and company if all they had to do was live and breath NBA basketball for the entirety of their NBA career.

@CCX … Whasup, Mike? When you look at the teams who might have too many quality point guards and be looking to move one of them, I still like the idea of getting Raymond Felton from Denver because I like his defense and playmaking more than Tony Parker, who is really more of a score first point guard. Of course, offensively Tony is one of the greatest penetrating guards in the history of the NBA. You can talk all you want about Rose’s and Westbrook’s ability to attack the rim but no guard in the NBA is harder to stop from scoring in the paint than Tony Parker.

Everybody is presuming at this point that there will be some form of amnesty in the next CBA. It’s one of those issues that is win-win for the owners and players. Owners get to dump a player and although they have to pay them the money won’t count against the cap and luxury tax. And they get a chance to sign free agent players who were dumped and will play for less because they are double dipping. Players get more movement and opportunity and a flood of free agents. There really might be some great finds for the Lakers. Unfortunately, the same would be true of the Heat and Mavs.

As for Lamar, I think a likely trade would be he and Blake for Felton and JR Smith (sign-and-trade). This may be a realistic possibility since it is looking more and more like the Lakers are not going to trade Pau unless it were for CP3 or DWill. I don’t think guys like Flynn are good enough to make that big a difference and I would prefer to keep Pau and Lamar rather than send them off for a mediocre point guard. Nothing less than Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or Raymond Felton for me.
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I'd rather hear Ron discuss the concept of leaving the "purple & gold" thus leaving space for an athlete who is more concerned about playing and winning basketball games instead of trying to make extra money! What "clowns" most of these guys become once they land in "LA-LA Land." No one is immune it seems to the lure of Hollywood Stardom. What really irks me is the rationalization of it all as stated by Lamar: "what happens once the ball stops bouncing?" Well, I think you guys get paid enough during your career so you don't have to worry about it until it does. I mean how can you mismanage millions of dollars? Oh, never mind... After hearing most of these guys speak, it's really a "no-brainer," pun intended.

@LT,

I am not sure if Flynn can be justifiably characterized as mediocre. His situation was like a round peg in a Triangle hole, a dominant penetrating PG who could not not fit in Kurt's version of the Triangle.

He had a great career at Syracuse; his freshman performance was supposed to have been better than Carmelo's. Maybe our moderator from Syracuse could confirm this. MM?

Whats going on Laker nation,


Mark Jackson just got a 3 year deal with the Warriors, for the head coaching job. The article's on yahoo, if you guys want to read it, that's the work of Jerry West already, ahah

LakerTom: I would love to see Felton/JR Smith for L.O. I don't agree with Pincus that JR Smith has that much baggage, yes he's a head-case and no we don't have Phil anymore, but we do have a #24 that won't put up with any of the type of off-court distractions and nonsense.

The key to a L.O. deal would be the access to the T'Wolves #2 pick, who they could use to draft Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker. Beasley does have talent too, the Lakers could use him to get some scoring at the small forward position. Flynn might be a throw-in in that type of deal, I agree with you that he's had a less-than impressive start to his NBA career.

The only thing is, they are looking to move Beasley if they draft PF Derrick Williams, so the Lakers probably would have to take the #20 to make it work, and maybe a future first rounder - but that doesn't help them win during this window.

Of course I'd be onboard with a Pau-for-CP3 or D-Will trade if either of them become available.

Felton/Smith make a ton of sense though, not only because it is realistic, it would help both teams but it seems like with Smith probably leaving and Ty Lawson already there, it's a trade the Nuggets would want to make.

But if teams are allowed one roster-cut under the CBA, that would be pretty interesting since they would be paid still, I imagine to come to L.A. they would take the minimum.

What about Rudy Fernandez? Maybe Portland jettisons Andre Miller and might want Steve Blake back, he would work straight-up for Rudy, who was disgruntled and didn't want to report to Portland last season. This is the last year on his deal I believe, and with the front office shuffling going on up there I'm sure the new GM will want to set his own imprint on things. It wouldn't address our point guard need, but give us a much-needed shooter off the bench.


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Yeah, I'm really surprised that Shaw didn't "score" the GS position. It seems to me that his hometown team shut him out. He has the "rings & things" as opposed to a commentator with lame catch phrases such as "momma, there goes that man and man down, hand down" or something to that effect. Basically, I was certain that Shaw was going to be their new head coach. Perhaps he's been "typecast" as a Jackson clone but I'm sure if Jackson comes back, Shaw will have a job on his staff. Premature "scuttlebutt" is that NY will make a run at Jackson. Ahhh, the drama and suspense of the off-season.

@SNAKE … Thanks for your comment. My bad because I didn’t know anything about Flynn and did not consider that Minnesota’s dissatisfaction of his play might be due to his fit in the Triangle. So I decided to learn more about him. I had not even remembered that the Wolves took him #6 in the draft right after Ricky Rubio. Physically, he is under 6 feet but close to 200#. Has excellent hops and can penetrate, has a great handle, and can pass the ball. Biggest draft worries were about his outside shooting ability. His stats the last two years in the league have not shown that he has solved the shooting dilemma and his assists to turnovers ratio is not great. I would say that he is kind of like a poor man’s T.J. Ford. I think we need more size and shooting ability at the point.
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@TECH N9NE … Jerry West said that he wanted to take some risks and Mark is definitely a risk since he has never been even as assistant coach. I was kind of surprised because he also strikes me as an offense first coach but if he really stole Mike Malone as an assistant from Mike Brown, that will help him at the defensive end. I like Mark and always thought he was a bright basketball mind. I thought the Warriors would opt for a defensive oriented guy considering that Mike Brown had been their first choice before he signed with the Lakers. Anyway, I think it was a great move for the Warriors and I think Mark will be a successful coach. But whether he can make the Warriors a perennial contender as he said in his presser is still up in the air. They are after all the Warriors.
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:-( Yeah, I thought it was Shaw's gig to lose too. Too bad, I just can't see him coming back to L.A. Maybe he didn't interview well? Wasn't well prepared? Didn't have a well thought-out gameplan? It's too bad though.

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I don't disagree that Kobe played under control this past season. I think the main problem was the Lakers offensive system was totally breaking down around them, it was coming apart at the seams. Phil lost control of what was happening, definitely could not harness the team to play cohesively the last month.

The other day I watched a '96 Bulls Finals game, their offense was a thing of beauty. I came away from watching that with two thoughts:

1) Pippen was REALLY good. Watching him direct the offense has me totally convinced that the Lakers should have pressed L.O. to do it more here in L.A. The only thing is, Pippen is more aggressive, a better jump shooter, a more skilled defender and generally better than Lamar. Heck, Pippen was running the offense, shooting threes, penetrating, crashing the boards and he was covering Gary Payton on the defensive side. Oh yeah, he sucks, Jordan was a one-man team... yeah, right!

2) Mitch must have never watched those Bulls teams that Phil ran. They had shooters to spread the floor. Everywhere, all up and down the lineup. They had a dedicated rebounder (and non-scorer) in Rodman, a center running around and setting screens in Luc Longley. They had a forward run the offense and match up against point guards.

Had Mitch saw Phil's system at work in Chicago he would have brought in some shooting. Phil too, he didn't make the necessary changes this team needed. Once he lost Tex Winter, his system took a nosedive.

One other thing, the paint was always open for Jordan, who had the luxury to cherry-pick much more than Kobe ever had. Anyone that says that Kobe couldn't have succeeded in Chicago is a fool. The fact is, watching Michael pick his spots makes me think he wouldn't have been able to carry the workload Kobe shoulders here, and Kobe does so without a great defensive player and wing-man at his side who also shouldered much of the load on offense and acted as primary distributor.

Anyways, Phil was trying to continue running the same system here, through D-Fish rather than Pippen, with poor-shooting Artest and Pau playing the Longley role but in reality getting lost in the offense a lot of the time.

Why didn't Phil change his system? Our bigs were not being featured, they weren't getting touches at the right times, in the right places. We were out of sync for most of the season. I don't blame Kobe, don't blame Fish, don't blame anyone - but I DO blame Phil! This was the perfect time for him to retire, his system just wasn't working anymore.

Anyways, glad that Mike Brown and a new perspective is here. Defense-first is what this team needs, along with some plays to free up Kobe. Hope that Mitch does the right thing and do what it takes to address our needs at the point, as well as bring in a shooter.

The Lakers don't need an complete rebuilding, but they do need an overhaul and desperately need speed.


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@CCX … I also really like the Odom/Blake for Felton/Smith trade almost as much as I like the Gasol/Blake for Paul/Ariza trade. Minnesota is intriguing because of Rubio and Love, both of whom I have at various times coveted for the Lakers, but I want more size and shooting than I think Flynn can provide. Blake for Fernandez is interesting because it might help Pau get his mojo back.
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@:-(. LOL. Are you related to :-) or :--()? It’s weird because when I see your posts, I keep trying to put your blog handle into words but completely fail. Sort of like when Prince changed his name to some symbol we could not vocalize. LOL. Who were you in your prior existence on the blog?

Anyway, I was hoping Brian would get the GS gig and thought the only reason he wouldn’t was his lack of head coaching experience. But Jackson was out of left field to me. I do think he will be a great hire but I will miss having somebody to call JVG when he makes a dumb statement.
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I'm not expecting any big trades. They're going to save their best for a shot at Howard, D Will or CP3 but I think they will want D Will due CP's knee issues. I think all 3 of these players will play their hand - and rightfully so - like Melo did in Feb and others before him like LBJ and “CBS.” They'll refuse to sign an extension with their current team or a team they do not wish to play for in a trade and they will decide where they want to play. Nothing more than minor tweaks for the upcoming season but you know if they get a chance to dump Ron, D Fish and/or Luke, consider it done. Guys like Blake, Odom, Gasol and Bynum will be used for the elite players.

@ :-( | Yea when they hired JW I assumed since Jim Buss is going away from phil jackson's whole triangle offense, that he might help out the assistants in getting a job, but I guess not, hope they at least hire him as an assistant coach or something because I really like Shaw, even as a player, so I was very surpirsed by Mark Jackson, such as :-( said " Man there goes that man, or Man down hand down" lol so yeah did Mark ever had a coaching job, even as assistant? I really want to see how this will work out! but good points all around!

@ LakerTom - yeah I'm looking forward to seeing them use Mark Jackson's system even tough no one knows what it is yet, hope the warriors do, but I wan't to see how this will turn out, Warriors have a lot of talent, in Ellis, Curry, Lee, but one thing they are missing is a real Center, they don't really have anyone who can fit that role, if they had a big guy in the middle that was productive, that team would have potential to contend with a lot of good teams, but for right now, all they have is scorers, in Ellis, Curry and Lee, there really is no one to block the paint, when the opposite team is driving it to make a layup, so I agree with you on the Mark Jackson hiring but I'm interested to see if they can upgrade any players, to make that team more compatable with other teams at least in the West so we'll see how that will turn out! but yeah I love the GSW but they need a real CENTER! they got the rest of the pieces in tact....

Posted by: :-( | June 07, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Yea there will be no Big trades when season starts, but maybe we might have a deal by February on the trade deadline, just as :-( said, so It will be amazing if we can get Dwill for some reason I'm not touching CP3 on this because for some reason its stuck in my head that there is no way this guy will play on a team without his friends, so most likely I'm saying he will go to East to play with his friends, think about, all NY needs is a good point guard, they have Billups now, but with his aging it will be good if they can have another really good point guard, to pass to Melo or Amare to score, so I think either that or some other team, but not the Lakers... But I'm all for Dwill for sure, if we can get this guy, than count on 3 more championships even tough were not sure how Mike Brown will use all the tools he has in the bag, and boy we have a lot of tools....

@LT - I used to post as "Frmkt" but I've got the sad face because of how the season ended and the issues with the blog earlier. I got "sucked" into the "practice season" theory and chose to ignore all the obvious signs before the team's unceremonial early exit from the playoffs. From now on, I'm staying objective and will handle all the accusations of being a "non-fan and traitor." :-)

@Tech... I don't think Shaw remains in L.A. on Brown's staff and at this point, it's pretty hard to guess whether or not he'll be working next season. I was stunned that he didn't land his hometown team.

>>>I am not sure if Flynn can be justifiably characterized as mediocre.

I kinda agree. The triangle has not always been kind to traditional point guards. OTOH, there are also great college players that never pan out in the pros... ask Adam Morrison. Ask Ed O'Bannon. There's a chance that Flynn's just really not skillful enough for the NBA.

Minnesota has an absolute glut of PGs - Flynn, Ridnour, now bringing in Rubio... if the Lakers could get Flynn for their Vujacic Trade Exception, it would probably be worth taking a flyer on him.

I don't see Flynn as worth trading Lamar or Bynum or Pau for, but if they could get him for the trade exception and Ebanks, or something like that, then that would probably be worth the risk.

Dose anyone have any information about the CBA and the meetings? Last we heard was when the players association president DFISH went on a vacation when he was suppose to be doing a meeting with David Stern and his cronies, but he backed down, because he knows under MB he will be coming off the bench lol but yeah the deadline is June 30th no? So that leaves about 24 days to figure out something or else we might now have a season come this Septemeber, wich will be the wierdest thing in the world, imagine a whole season with no Basketball wow, too scary to even think about it!

I kinda agree. The triangle has not always been kind to traditional point guards.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | June 07, 2011 at 10:54 AM

The Triangle? as in Phil Jackson's offensive style of playing basketball? we'll if that's so, then forget about it what you just said, because under MB we will have a new mysterious offense that we don't know about so who know's maybe he'll run something that will be good for Flynn, so don't think of the triangle from now on, think of something else, not sure what but something else, so that way we'll have more PG's fitting in with out team, the era of the TRIANGLE is gone fellaz, it left with PJ and his staff...

>>>Now, Pau probably makes too much to make a trade with them work, but
>>>how about a L.O. for Beasley/Flynn/#2 pick?

If Minnesota would go for that deal, I would absolutely take it if I was running the Lakers.

Flynn is a gamble on a PG - he does have enough speed to defend better than Fisher or Blake (whether he has the skill/desire is yet to be seen).

Beasley is about the same height as Lamar, so he could play some PF for the Lakers. He'd probably be better scoring off the bench for the Lakers, though maybe not quite Lamar's level of defense (unless he grew into it). And there'd be a drop off in rebounding as well.

This draft kinda has the feel of the 2005 and 2008 drafts. There seem to be several point guards that could have an impact in the league. Remember `05 was Chris Paul and Deron Williams, 2008 was Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook. But guys like DJ Agustin, Eric Gordon, Jerryd Bayless, George Hill, Mario Chalmers, Ray Felton, Nate Robinson, and Jarret Jack were also in those drafts.

If you could turn that #2 pick into a Paul/Williams/Rose/Westbrook level PG, then the Lakers would truly be set for awhile.

Here's the fly in the ointment...

Lamar Odom is Kevin Love light. Love is a better rebounder, a better shooter, just as good a defender, and 8 years younger.

What Minnesota really needs is a Center.

If you offered Pau or Drew, I'll bet you could score Beasley, Flynn, the #2 pick, Darko Milicic, and maybe some other goodies as well.

List of Lakers that got sucked into hollywood!

Lamar - reality show
Ron - Rapper/producer/artist/musician/Volunteer/
Matt Barnes - rapper/ reality show "Bball wives"
Shannon - Married a singer Monica
Kobe - Commericals/endorsements/Hollywood Star
Joe Smith - Rapper/writer
Steve Blake - chickenpox
Derek Fisher - El presidente
Pau - Softness/Johnson & Johnson shampoo commercial

Caracter/Ebanks/Trey - who?

ahaha lol

LongTimeLakerFan,

re: Lamar Odom is Kevin Love light. Love is a better rebounder, a better shooter, just as good a defender, and 8 years younger.

What Minnesota really needs is a Center.

If you offered Pau or Drew, I'll bet you could score Beasley, Flynn, the #2 pick, Darko Milicic, and maybe some other goodies as well.

my response: *I* do that deal in a heartbeat as the Lakers. A better question
is: Does Rambis want Bynum or Pau as his center?

@ hobbitmage - The real question is, will Rambis have a JOB in Minnesota, cuz what they were saying is, they are not sure if they will bring back Rambis, that's why he was on the list of Lakers coaches before they hired MB... so who knows they might fire Rambis, and the new coach might no like the idea of either Pau or Drew lol but then again, its Drew that will bring more of a chance, than Pau I think...

dose anyone know if Pau is playing center for the Spain's national team? or is he a PF?

This is EXACTLY why we got swept in the playoffs this year. Guys DISTRACTED by off-court projects and HOLLYWOOD, all these Rodman-wannabes doing reality shows and caring more about fame than RINGS! And worse, Rodman only did a couple of wrestling gigs. These jokers are doing full-fledged SHOWS with CAMERAS following them everywhere. I can't believe Kobe isn't more PISSED! Lamar's "reality" show is pure patheticness, and now Ron, WTF are you doing?! You should be working on your GAME with your miserable and huge failing performance against the Mavs, not some lame reality show trying to put murderers, rapists and drug dealers in a sympathetic light. How about their VICTIMS? Do they get to be on TV too or is your "show" just benefitting the CRIMINALS? Good luck on getting it picked up, talk about bad taste and worse, you'll come back ever more LAME on the court. So much so that our team will be the LAMERS next year, not the Lakers. Buss family, the hell are YOU doing? You let your players make asses of themselves while POISONING the team? How do you expect we'll win again when Kobe and Pau are already getting old, Fish has BEEN old the past 4 years, AND our guys are being DISTRACTED? Isn't it enough that Phil left and we're left with a new coach that has just ONE team under his belt who only got a good record cause he had a SUPERSTAR in his prime on his team? A coach that was so thoroughly OUTCOACHED in the playoffs that it was embarrassing? From being dominated by Pop to Doc Rivers to Stan Van Gundy, you think Mike Brown can do what Phil Jackson COULDN'T? Yes, we have enough problems right now not to mention the MIAMI HEAT and to compound that we have guys not focused on basketball, but on FAME? I guess getting SWEPT doesn't provide motivation anymore, not when our team is now full of FAME WHORES. It used to be Laker players WON CHAMPIONSHIPS to get more famous, now they just do LAME reality shows instead.

@ Buckustoothnail - sadly its true, once you get to hollwood you become hollywood, I mean just imagine the celeberties coming to the games? that should tell you a lot, in LA we have more seats filled with Celebs than fans, so thats just how LA has been, everyone who came here turned hollywood, and yes that might be the reason why we got swept, no ones head was in the game, they were like who cares about this year, I'll do my reality show...

so yeah that's what happend, but I'm not saying thats 100% because of hollywood we got swept, but it is a big part in that, I think we got swept because no one wanted to play freaking basketball, how can you be the defending champs when you couldnt even win 1 game in LA not even in Dallas in freaking LA let go of a 15 point lead? yeah so no one played basketball... so sad, we should have been in the Finals watching our team beat down the Cheat, so thats LA for ya guys!

I am not sure if Flynn can be justifiably characterized as mediocre. His situation was like a round peg in a Triangle hole, a dominant penetrating PG who could not not fit in Kurt's version of the Triangle.

He had a great career at Syracuse; his freshman performance was supposed to have been better than Carmelo's. Maybe our moderator from Syracuse could confirm this. MM?
Posted by: Snake92646 | June 07, 2011 at 09:46 AM
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Flynn freshman season better than Melo’s? Snake – please make sure whoever suggested that receive prompt medical attention


dose anyone know if Pau is playing center for the Spain's national team? or is he a PF?

Posted by: Tech N9ne | June 07, 2011 at 11:37 AM
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With Marc's better playoff performance, he probably gets the starting center role, with Pau at PF. It would interesting to see Spain's twin towers, the Gasols, playing together.

@ Snake92.. Oh so his brother is playing as well? I didn't know that, but yeah ill take that too Marc at C and Pau at PF... I would want to watch at least one game, to see how the Spains Twin towers work out!

Newsflash! Lakers have been doing things outside of basketball since forever...yet they've still managed to win titles. They can't win the chip every year. But I understand the outside interest/distractions is an convenient excuse.

@LRob2 - I agree its nothing new, but how many prior Lakers have you seen to do reality show or turn to rapping and even release a song? yeah Magic did't do it, KAJ didn't do it, this reality TV show is brand new LRob2 don't forget, we only had Shaq and Kobe's antics for entertainment, but other than that, there was no prior Laker doing reality shows, this is because of the 21st century...

how about rapping, or even trying to write songs? I dont recall any former Laker who did that, besides Shaq being a cop buy I belive he did that in Miami? so my point stands, this reality TV is new... and now RON lol

Holla CRUE!

Ugh - I've been soooo sick - stomach flu or food poisoning or something...exacerbated by that ugly game Sunday night...

Sooooo many things going on these days...oh wait. No there's not. The Lakers are done and we've been reduced to rooting for the Mavs who appear to be on the verge of proving that their win over us was ALL about us and NOT about them at all. Sheesh. Their players ALL stepped up when it was against the Lakers, but now no one is doing a dang thing out there except for Dirk. And even he's looking like he's one missed shot away from wussing out again. C'mon Mavs - ya gotta win tonight. Please!! Think of the children.

There have been a lot of interesting trade scenarios bantered back and forth on here as well. But with the signing of Brown and Buddies (or at least some of the buddies) I have no idea what's going on in our FO and what they're thinking of doing. Does anyone? Any scenario sounds just as plausible - or as stupid - as the next one does for now LOL!

The CBA - is there any word on what's happening? Are we all just holding our collective breath and trying not to turn blue? This is killing me...

frmkt aka :-( .... who knew? LOL!! Hi there! Come by the RC for the game tonight if you can. There's usually a good turnout even though it's not our boys playing.

hobbit - I'm enjoying your posts, as usual. Still sorry about your pup...you gonna get another? I found that helped a lot when my cat died. My new one doesn't replace her, but it fills the void somewhat. Hope you're doing ok.


>>>Now, Pau probably makes too much to make a trade with them work, but
>>>how about a L.O. for Beasley/Flynn/#2 pick? "

That seems like WAY too much for Lamar. I know Flynn has mostly been a flop but that is still 3 lottery picks in exchange for Lamar Odom. If it was Beasley/Flynn or #2/Flynn, I think that might work but all 3 seems like way too much.

So here are some news going around today in NBA world

1.Hornets head coach Monty Williams says assistant Mike Malone is leaving to join Mark Jackson’s new staff with the Golden State Warriors.

2. They are working on a trade to possibly get Mote Ellis to Sixers for Andre Igudala, which might work since JW is in the office...

3. Philadelphia 76ers are up for sale, anyone have the big bucks!? lol

@LT - I used to post as "Frmkt" but I've got the sad face because of how the season ended and the issues with the blog earlier. I got "sucked" into the "practice season" theory and chose to ignore all the obvious signs before the team's unceremonial early exit from the playoffs. From now on, I'm staying objective and will handle all the accusations of being a "non-fan and traitor." :-)

Posted by: :-( | June 07, 2011 at 10:48 AM

==============================================

:-(

Do you feel you deserve a ticket from the PSP for letting that fraudulent lawyer bamboozle and gaffle you into believing in the 'pratice season junk theory'?

Thanks
PSP Officer

The Jim Buss Anthem

Sung to the melody of the "Beverly Hillbillies"
*************************************


Come and listen to a story bout a man named Jim
A millionaire’s kid who sometimes hit the skids
And then one day upon inheriting the team
A light came on about his Laker legacy

Well the next thing you know ole Jim is self aware
Jimbo says get PJ outta here
Coach Mike Brown is the place we wanna be
So he threw out all that Zen BS it's time to play some D

Defense that is, No Triangles, Rap Music, or Movie Stars
(banjo kicks in)

PSP,

Is there going to be any sort of memorial service for the practice season theory? I imagine there would be police escorts for the funeral processions so I was wondering if anything had come through on your scanner yet.

D-Wade shot the ball 21 times and only had 3 assists while playing with 
LBJ, C-Bosh, M. Miller & M. Bibby.
Where's all the comments about him being a ballhog?
hobbitmage | June 06, 2011 at 06:09 PM

Dude…It doesn’t matter if you shoot 40 shots, just make 50% of them. The amount of shots Kobe taken during the playoffs, making only .446 % and 3.3 asst. That’s a ballhog, just stating the facts.

D-Wade shot the ball 21 times and only had 3 assists while playing with 
LBJ, C-Bosh, M. Miller & M. Bibby.
Where's all the comments about him being a ballhog?
hobbitmage | June 06, 2011 at 06:09 PM

Dude…It doesn’t matter if you shoot 40 shots, just make 50% of them. The amount of shots Kobe taken during the playoffs, making only .446 % and 3.3 asst. That’s a ballhog, just stating the facts.

Justanothermambafan,

1. Glad you're still around.

2. Glad you enjoy the posts.

3. Yes, I'm definitely going to get another. I still have one four-footed
clown in the house, but he's not the same. he's not nearly as bright.
Although, I have to give him credit. he lifted the gate of the hinges
and got out.

The initial rush of fear was debilitating. Then I realized he was probably
not to far away. He showed up about 5 minutes after I called him. 15 ticks.
Ugh.

Still. He's home. He's eating. He didn't pick up too many foxtails.

I found a place in Ohio which has some good pups. Long lives. No osteo-
arthritis.

How are you?

D-Wade shot the ball 21 times and only had 3 assists while playing with 
LBJ, C-Bosh, M. Miller & M. Bibby.
Where's all the comments about him being a ballhog?
hobbitmage | June 06, 2011 at 06:09 PM

Dude…It doesn’t matter if you shoot 40 shots, just make 50% of them. The amount of shots Kobe taken during the playoffs, making only .446 % and 3.3 asst. That’s a ballhog, just stating the facts.

PSP,

You should go easy on :-( [ aka frmkt ].

Those lawyers are so smooth. They tell you that black is white &
they make it sound sooooo reasonable.

It would have been nice if the lawyer had shown up and admitted that
he was wrong. However, we're talking about lawyer's and by definition
there's not nice and never confess to anything. Attorney-client confidentiality
I guess.

BayToLA

Nothing yet, but the PSP is checking the scanner regularly. The only message the PSP received so far is that Bay,yello,Trollman, and pfunk will be the pall bearers. How could they not give THE PSP a spot? Oy!!

Among the mourners will be KobeMVP888,LEWSTRS, Cyber,LakerTom e.t.c

Island Priestess and G.Money will be providing the entertainment as usual.

Feel free to add yourself to any category as you see fit.

Thanks
PSP Officer

What are you guys talking about?

Do you feel you deserve a ticket from the PSP for letting that fraudulent lawyer bamboozle and gaffle you into believing in the 'pratice season junk theory'?

Thanks
PSP Officer

Posted by: Practice Season Police | June 07, 2011 at 12:41 PM

PSP...Dude everyone who listen to that Boot Lickin CLOWN 888 should have had their HEAD examined. What kind of $hit was that? That FOOL believe it himself, then ran off like the little COWARD he his.

PSP,

Make sure it gets buried deep with no head stone so it can't ever be found.
Better yet, dump it in the ocean...

BTW, are you going to need a new handle now that practice season has retired :)

Damn...the triple posts, my bad.

Tech N9ne

A few different conversations are going on right now. Pick your poison :-) but if you really must know, we got hijacked by some lawyer(s) at some point last season. He (they) managed to brainwash some otherwise excellent bloggers here into believing some hogwash theory.

We are planning a burial ceremony for that theory. You can be a pall bearer, a mourner, or an entertainer.

Thanks
PSP Intern

Troll Man is still in anger mode about this season.

Petty jealousies, personal (non-basketball) agenda's, horrific coaching, and the worst dedication to a profession that gives them fame and fortune.

The way they went out against Dallas was embarrassing. From allowing open shot after open shot, Pau's sulking, Drew's cheap shot, to Phil Jackson allowing a 16 point lead in game one to evaporate before calling a timeout.

Now having to watch Miami and Lebron win a title is just too much.
Dallas looks mortal when a little defensive pressure is applied to them.
Series isn't over but with Wade (TOUCH FOUL EXTRAORDINAIRE) ((that was funny whoever said that)) and the great acting of LBJ, the Heat look like winners unless all of a sudden the most crooked referee's in the world ( maybe soccer is #1) suddenly call a straight game.


The worst thing of all....
the Hollywood Lakers are the worst actors I've ever seen. They can't act their way out of a bad reality show.

"What are you guys talking about?

Posted by: Tech N9ne | June 07, 2011 at 01:07 PM "

The "Practice Season Theory" was thrown out there regularly whenever the Lakers hit a rough patch. It basically promised that the Lakers would "flip the switch" when it mattered and that it was foolish to pay any attention to any of the warning signs given during the "practice season". Anyone that worried about the Lakers lack of speed, unreliable bench, Derek Fisher as a starting point guard, etc was just ignoring history and was going to be proven wrong in June.

@ PSP

Oh so this was when they handle jacked everyone? including me, but when the guy tried to re-type my name they put the wrong name ahaha I remeber I even told the guy nice try but this is how you spell my name. Aahaha so his a lawyer? what a looser he is, couldn't even highjack my name properly, I do remember that so sign me up man, I can be an entertainer or whatever category I can feel in...

I don't think 6 feet will do it for this, we need to dig deeper much much much deeper, I got some shovles anyone want to help me dig a bigger hole for the burial? okay lets do it...

so all the original bloggers left because of that highjacking incident? can't we ask Mark to locate his IP and somehow go find the person and kick their butt? sign me up for that too, but you got to imagine what a looser he was, he couldn't even highjack properly ahahah

SIGN ME UP PSP!!!

The "Practice Season Theory" was thrown out there regularly whenever the Lakers hit a rough patch. It basically promised that the Lakers would "flip the switch" when it mattered and that it was foolish to pay any attention to any of the warning signs given during the "practice season". Anyone that worried about the Lakers lack of speed, unreliable bench, Derek Fisher as a starting point guard, etc was just ignoring history and was going to be proven wrong in June.

Posted by: BayToLA1 | June 07, 2011 at 01:17 PM

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that expalins a lot, even tough I kind of would apply to that theory but forget that, I wouldn't call it a theory more like " HOPE " we hoped and ignored for a good reason, because we believed that our team can overcome everything, but after this season man, everything needs to be buried, so now I get the full picture of what happend...

but makes me wonder if the orniginal bloggers took their handlejacking seriously, I mean it happend to most of us on here no? they just used your name and posted a comment, I get it, but I don't think they should have left, because of one low life moran, so that stinks but hey, lets bury this thing and bring them back....

there is no such thing as " flipping the switch "
that flipping thing went away when we beraly beat NOLA
it was only a matter of time....

thanks for the explanation guys

"@ PSP

Oh so this was when they handle jacked everyone? including me, but when the guy tried to re-type my name they put the wrong name ahaha I remeber I even told the guy nice try but this is how you spell my name. Aahaha so his a lawyer? what a looser he is, couldn't even highjack my name properly, I do remember that so sign me up man, I can be an entertainer or whatever category I can feel in...

I don't think 6 feet will do it for this, we need to dig deeper much much much deeper, I got some shovles anyone want to help me dig a bigger hole for the burial? okay lets do it...

so all the original bloggers left because of that highjacking incident? can't we ask Mark to locate his IP and somehow go find the person and kick their butt? sign me up for that too, but you got to imagine what a looser he was, he couldn't even highjack properly ahahah

SIGN ME UP PSP!!!

Posted by: Tech N9ne | June 07, 2011 at 01:17 PM "

I don't know who was behind the handle jacking but I have no suspicions the lawyer had anything to do with it. That was a separate issue. The lawyer was the main spokesperson for the practice season theory and was very criticial of those who didn't buy into it. Many colorful debates came as a result of the preachings.

@BayTOLA1 - thanks for the details on the drama, but I wonder who this lawyer guy is, dose he have a blog name like us? MVP888?

"@BayTOLA1 - thanks for the details on the drama, but I wonder who this lawyer guy is, dose he have a blog name like us? MVP888?

Posted by: Tech N9ne | June 07, 2011 at 01:37 PM "

Yes that is him.

yes I got it right,

KOBEMVP888 - I saw him on here

Yes

Very nasty attitude he had. The PSP invited him to meet up at Jon K's alley or hobbit's dojo for a beatdown but that never happened. :-(

Thanks
PSP Officer

>>>The Triangle? as in Phil Jackson's offensive style of playing basketball? we'll
>>>if that's so, then forget about it what you just said,

You must not have READ what I said. I was using the triangle to justfy WHY Flynn may not have played up to his potential. I was agreeing with you.

But as I also said, there's no guarantee that that's the only thing. There are plenty of players who tear up the world in college and fall flat on their face in the pros. Adam Morrison, to name one. So if you take on Flynn, you are taking a gamble that he can play well in the NBA and that the Minnesota Triangle was holding him back.

Ron is the man...a crazy man though.

Did anyone see the funny story about the Laker's pick-up game???

http://milkthebull.com/2011/05/09/lakers-self-destruct-in-pick-up-game/

Yes

Very nasty attitude he had. The PSP invited him to meet up at Jon K's alley or hobbit's dojo for a beatdown but that never happened. :-(

Thanks
PSP Officer

Posted by: Practice Season Police | June 07, 2011 at 01:53 PM

ahahahah THAT JUST CRACKED ME UP... Jon K's alley or hobbits dojo ahaha man world class funny

LTLF,

oh I must have not read the other posts, I tought you were saying he dosn't fit in the Triangle so I was like woa... the Triangle days are gone. but now I get it, thanks for the explenation!

Flynn looks like he could have a potential though..

Hey regarding, Jonny Flynn. Flynn is not better than Melo, but Flynn had a very impressive freshman and sophomore season at Syracuse. He was incredibly quick, ran the point well, passed well and had a great outside shot. He's a very charismatic individual and very media savvy. I'm not sure though how his game fits in the pros. It's plausible his game may have been restricted because of the triangle in Minnesota, but it's not as if you're getting a superstar with him. He was a very good college player. But that doesn't mean he's a very good pro player.

>>>It's plausible his game may have been restricted because of the triangle in
>>>Minnesota, but it's not as if you're getting a superstar with him. He was a
>>>very good college player. But that doesn't mean he's a very good pro player.

And that was exactly the point I was getting at.

However, the Lakers don't necessarily need a superstar at the point.

The question is, could he be better than Fisher or Blake. And I truthfully don't know. Haven't seen him play enough to have an opinion one way or another.

Newsflash! Lakers have been doing things outside of basketball since forever...yet they've still managed to win titles. They can't win the chip every year. But I understand the outside interest/distractions is an convenient excuse.

Posted by: LRob2 | June 07, 2011 at 12:06 PM

That's complete B.S. or perhaps you haven't been a Laker fan very long.

Please cite examples to back up your statement. Oh wait, you CAN'T. What were Jerry West and Elgin Gay Baylor doing that REMOTELY resembled a commitment such as a reality show? Hmmm. How about Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and James Worthy? Nada huh? Okay, Shaq and Kobe?

Yes, Shaq was rapping while making horrific movies like Kazaam (when he was with the Orlando MAGIC) and Steel, during his first year as a Laker, for which he was rightly criticized for not focusing on basketball. Guess what? We DIDN'T win his first year.

No, it wasn't until he STOPPED making movies in the off-season and publicly devoted himselft to IMPROVING his game in the off-season did we start WINNING titles.

Especially when guys like LeBron Jame and Dwyane Wade are working their asses off in the off-season to improve their games bringing something new to the table every season, the two Lakers that SHOULD be doing that are Lamar and Ron who were WOEFUL this post-season.

But of course, front-running bandwagon nouvelle pseudo-Laker "fans" will ALWAYS make ridiculous excuses for the teams, never taking them to task as REAL fans would. This is the SAME attitude we heard all year when the Lakers were losing and the excuses came poring like "this is just the regular season" and "we're still the defending champions" and "they are just bored, they can turn it on anytime".

Yeah, that worked out really well for us.

I see Buckustoothnail, the phony-baloney 'long time Laker season ticket holder' has come here with his unique brand of hata-aid.

Don't let this particularly insidious troll fool you, he's a wolf in sheep clothing and does nothing more than write one bashing comment/article after another in Bleacher Report for months now.

Laker fan my ass, buckus is troll of the first order.


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Now having to watch Miami and Lebron win a title is just too much.
Dallas looks mortal when a little defensive pressure is applied to them.
Series isn't over but with Wade (TOUCH FOUL EXTRAORDINAIRE) ((that was funny whoever said that)) and the great acting of LBJ, the Heat look like winners unless all of a sudden the most crooked referee's in the world ( maybe soccer is #1) suddenly call a straight game.

Posted by: Troll Man | June 07, 2011 at 01:16 PM

Are you serious?!! Are you watching the 2006 NBA Finals or the 2011 NBA Finals? If the refs can be accused of being crooked this year, it's for the benefit of the MAVS, not the Heat. LeBron has shot just EIGHT free throws in the first THREE games of the series! In comparison, Dirk shot NINE free throws just in GAME 3!

Not to mention, in that game the Heat shot 15 free throws compared to 27 by the Mavs! And you're trying to claim the refs have been "crooked" for the Heat???

Man, are you really that clueless or are you just being a TROLL?!


I see Buckustoothnail, the phony-baloney 'long time Laker season ticket holder' has come here with his unique brand of hata-aid.

Don't let this particularly insidious troll fool you, he's a wolf in sheep clothing and does nothing more than write one bashing comment/article after another in Bleacher Report for months now.

Laker fan my ass, buckus is troll of the first order.

AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | June 07, 2011 at 06:18 PM

Please, is this the same clueless "CyberCosmiX" with his head in his behind that thinks we got SWEPT by the Mavs in the playoffs because of Phil Jackson and that Mike Brown is the "perfect" coach for us?

Typical of the so-called pseuedo-"fans" who's only commitment to the Lakers is watching highlights on the Internet and who’s annual financial commitment being the Lakers bumper sticker they get from their mom as their Christmas present. No wonder these front-running, bandwagon "fans" don't care if we win or lose! Not like they are paying real HARD cash every year for season tickets. Not like they have to drive home in misery after every under-achieving ridiculous loss or have the need to drown in a puddle of sake and Kobe Beef Sliders despair at Katsuya after these losses.

It's not because we lose, but because we SHOULDN'T lose such games. It was fine when Van Excel and Jones didn't win the title because they OVER-ACHIEVED. All we're doing now is UNDER-ACHIEVING.

But don't tell newbie "fans" like CyberCosmiX who never supported the team when during the lean years and only sticking it with the Lakers in the off-season being confused and in denial that we got SWEPT in the playoffs and still think we're "defending champions" before a NEW champion is crowned. Yes, still milking those precious seconds before that happens to feel like a "winner" and will be wearing LeBron's #6 jersey by Christmas when he gets his present from his mom.


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