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Free agent profile: J.R. Smith

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This is the fourth post in a series of profiles analyzing a free agent and how he might fit in with the Lakers.

J.R. Smith, Nuggets guard

Type of free agent: Unrestricted

Positives: The biggest area the Lakers lacked, argued former Coach Phil Jackson, was speed. Considering the uncertainty on whether Shannon Brown's going to exercise his $2.37-million option, securing Smith would provide the Lakers insurance for a speedy and athletic backup at shooting guard. Smith would provide endless amounts of energy on the break, on defense and in hustle plays. His trash talking with Kobe Bryant over the years would actually earn his respect considering he's touted Ron Artest and Matt Barnes for their willingness to get chippy with him. And Smith's defensive ability should lift the burden off a veteran-heavy backcourt in Bryant and Derek Fisher and keep an aging Artest fresh. Expect Barnes and Smith to try to one up each other on body art too. 

Negatives: There's a reason why Nuggets Coach George Karl often grew agitated with him, often labeling him a "good-bad player" because of his tendency to play outside the confines of his system and hoist unnecessary shots. You're also going to get off-court distractions, such as Smith getting pulled over on his scooter for not having a licenses to operate it. Smith's driver ALSO filled Kenyon Martin's car full of popcorn as an April Fool's joke. Also, according to the Denver Post's Benjamin Hochman, Smith mentioned it was likely he wouldn't resign with the Nuggets. Fair enough for his honesty. But Smith said this when the Nuggets were trailing 0-2 to the Oklahoma City Thunder in the first round of the playoffs, hardly the type of comment a player should make. No doubt, he'd be a handful for Mike Brown.

Verdict: The Lakers would surely be able to reign Smith in considering they have Bryant and Fisher running the locker room. Should Smith immediately adapt to that culture, he'd be a valuable wild-card addition. But I could only see Smith filling that role for so long. That's why it'd be better if the Lakers signed Smith to a short-term deal (one season). Prolonging his stint any longer than that would only increase the possibility that problems would arise.

RELATED:

Free-agent profile: DeAndre Jordan

Free agent profile: Shane Battier

Free agent profile: Arron Afflalo

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Nuggets guard J.R. Smith wouldn't be a good fit with the Lakers for long. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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@TECH N9NE ... Unless the owners and player know something we don’t, you’re right that none of the trades for the Big 3 or Nash will happen until after we have a new CBA and everyone knows what the landscape looks like. I do think Nash might sign for the MLE just to get a ring next year but he might be joined by a lot of amnesty players who were cut. I wouldn’t give any of our Big 4 for Steve at this point but assuming his back is OK, he would be great for the Lakers. Imagine him setting up Kobe, Drew, Pau, and Lamar for easy baskets. I would love to see that happen. Nash can still ball.
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The NFL should actually settle their dispute early next month well before the start of training camp late in July. I also think the NFL settling will put pressure on the NBA owners and players to settle. Only fools would kill the golden goose after the best playoff TV ratings in the last 10 years. So I think there will be a long lock out or missed games. No asterisk championship this time. Just Lakers #17.
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LAKER TOM


Nash can still ball, but he can't play much D. The good news is that unlike the guys we have now, he can take it right back to them and cause the other team fits.

As for Bynum and the "falling in line" - I really think this is backwards.

Bynum is NOT the guy to give the ball to and just sit back and watch him score. He's disappointing in the post that way IMO. Bynum is at his best when someone else breaks down the defense and passes off to him.

And this isn't even close.

Why, you might ask, do I feel Bynum's game in the post is so disappointing? Well, he worked with Cap for how long? He reportedly wanted to learn offense a lot, and yet, even with all of this, you cannot rely on Bynum to get off a good shot most of the time (making inside out ball nearly impossible using only Bynum as the inside player)... how is this possible when Cap was the king of give him the ball and add two points to the score board??

Therefore, between Bynum and Howard, it's not even close.

Howard leaves a lot to be desired in respect to the great centers in history. He's certainly one of the most athletic big men ever, but that's about it. Bynum has some development from his tutoring, but lacks in pretty much every way to Howard. In the BEST CASE SCENARIO you're hoping that Bynum improves enough to equal the impact on a team that Howard already has.

Then, of course, you have the chance (which is significant) that Bynum will not improve that much - either through lack of ability, lack of effort, or lack of health.

When you're betting your money on something, you want to put it where you have the highest probability of a payoff. Bynum for Howard would easily fit that description. If you're wrong in trading Bynum, you're going to be barely wrong as Bynum might become marginally better than Howard. If you're right, you're going to be massively right - trading a non all-star, non franchise player, for a perennial all-star, franchise player (that has LED his team to the finals), and DPOY. Age is barely even a factor.

I think if this deal were ever on the table and a manager could not pull the trigger on it, that manager is unfit to manage ANY team in the college or pro ranks. I don't care what the guy's track record is. This would be the worst decision I could think of from a basic risk reward standpoint.

And I'm a Bynum lover.

"Well for starters, Carmelo is an argument FOR the thing the argument of the poster you're criticizing.

Denver could have taken New Jersey's inital offer. They could have taken New York's initial offer. But they didn't. They played those two off of each other, then threw in a rumor that they were talking to the Lakers about Carmelo for Bynum just to get NYNJ to up their offers.

Eventually, Denver got a bigger package deal than the initial offers. And they managed to dump off Billups big contract.

If Orlando goes to shop Dwight Howard at the trade deadline, it's not like there will only be the Lakers in the running. Other teams might be able to offer better deals than Bynum + Walton... for example:

Dallas - The current Champs. I'm absolutely 100% positive Mark Cuban would give up anyone not named Nowitzki to get Dirk. So if they offer Tyson Chandler, Shawn Marion, Jason Terry, Rodrique Beaubois, and take Gilbert Arenas' hideous contract off their hands, that might look more appealing than Bynum and a bucket of hot wings. And I guarantee you Howard would have no problem extending with Dallas to play out the rest of his career there.

Miami - What if the Heat decide that Wade, Bosh, Howard would be more balanced? Does Orlando turn down LeBron for Howard?

Boston - Not sure what they could offer, but I bet they'd give up everyone but Rondo if it would get them Howard

Chicago - How about a package starting with Boozer and Noah?

Oklahoma City - You want Serge Ibaka, James Harden, Kendrick Perkins, and anything not named Durant or Westbrook? Take `em.

Basically every team in the league would be making offers, and several of those teams are legit enough contenders that Howard would be likely to consider them.

So the Lakers can't just pick what they want the deal to be and say, "Take this or lose Dwight for nothing." They'd have to negotiate a set of pieces that's competitive with what other teams are offering, but keep enough talent in house to still be competitive.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | June 15, 2011 at 04:01 PM

THANK YOU! It is not as easy as some people are making it out to be, even if Dwight comes out and says the Lakers are where he's going to play next year no matter what.

Carmelo had already decided he wanted to be a Knick but if the Knicks sat back and let him come in free agency after the new CBA agreement, he could have potentially lost several million dollars a year. In order to secure his salary, he had to request that New York trade for him. Denver then had a lot of bargaining power. Even though it seemed like they had to just lay down and let New York have him, the delay caused Carmelo to work against the Knicks and force them to increase their offer to get the deal done. In the end, New York gave up a lot more than they wanted to for a player that wanted nothing more than to be on their team.

The Dwight situation is even trickier since the Lakers have MUCH less money to offer in free agency so Dwight basically has to have the Magic's cooperation if he wants to go there unless he wants to play for the MLE. Since one of the main reasons for playing in LA is the financial benefits, it would be counterproductive to take a $10-$15 million pay cut. Dwight also will have a lot more teams bidding for his services than Carmelo did.

A Bynum for Dwight trade is not going to get it done. It will include giving up more talent, taking on more money, or both. I really don't know if there is a way to pull that trade off that will improve the team. He's not going to come cheap.

@Bay to LA
Even though it seemed like they had to just lay down and let New York have him, the delay caused Carmelo to work against the Knicks and force them to increase their offer to get the deal done. In the end, New York gave up a lot more than they wanted to for a player that wanted nothing more than to be on their team.
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My response: but the Knicks are the Knicks at the end of the day. Of course they were going to gut their entire roster for Carmelo. They are one of the worst handled teams in the last 15 years. But when the Heat trade Odom and some other guys I don't even remember right now, Brian, and some dude, they didn't gut their roster, and Shaq WAS a 3 time champion. Don't compare the Knicks-Nuggets business dealings with anything anybody else has done. It's not fair. Maybe the Magic can trick the Nuggets into giving them Danilo Galinari, Nene, Ray Felton, and the Birdman, but nobody is that dumb.
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The Dwight situation is even trickier since the Lakers have MUCH less money to offer in free agency so Dwight basically has to have the Magic's cooperation if he wants to go there unless he wants to play for the MLE. Since one of the main reasons for playing in LA is the financial benefits, it would be counterproductive to take a $10-$15 million pay cut. Dwight also will have a lot more teams bidding for his services than Carmelo did.
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My response: Wrong, wouldn't you trade big for big and get a starting center with some offense, or anything resembling Dwight? I'm talking about AB. Wouldn't you want his expiring contract? Who would you rather trade for if you were the Magic than for Andrew to go along with Stan van Gundy, Jameer Nelson, JRich and company? Dwight doesn't have to take any paycut at all, not at the egregious rate or - $10-$15 million. Teams bidding for DH would have to presumably give up way more than the Lakers as well, those same teams would have to have the right money situation to even take up on those huge contracts. It's not as hard as you make it out to be. It's simple mathematics and finance.
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A Bynum for Dwight trade is not going to get it done. It will include giving up more talent, taking on more money, or both. I really don't know if there is a way to pull that trade off that will improve the team. He's not going to come cheap.
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My response: he won't come cheap but what elite-level player ever comes cheap. Unless you are the Lakers mid 2008 stealing Pau Gasol, or the 2004 Miami Heat led by Pat Riley, you aren't giving up peanuts for all stars anyway. So the price might not seem fair, even if at the end we give up Lamar Odom and it might screw the bench a whole lot, on the other hand, there are nice free agents who possess Lamar's same speed, such as JR Smith that can fill the voids left by him, not all but most of them.


Since most of the fans on this blog have already traded Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard, they might want to consider whether Dwight would really want to play for the Lakers. Based on recent developments, it does not appear that the Lakers are even among Dwight’s top three picks.

Howard’s people recently released a list of favored locations which had the Lakers the #4 favored team on his list. Then there were the comments Dwight made about wanting to attract players to join him rather than leaving Orlando to join another player’s team. He wants to keep his options open.

I think Dwight wants to be Wade rather than LeBron. I think he wants to be Batman not Robin. If he goes to New York, he is Batman and Amare becomes Robin. If he comes to the Lakers, he would be Robin to Kobe’s batman. I don’t think that’s a direction Dwight Howard wants to take.

Nobody’s talked about how the basketball world has reacted to the Miami Heat and how that may well change what future athletes decide to do. I think the last thing Dwight wants to do is find himself in a situation like LeBron and Miami have found themselves. That would wipe the grin off his face.

I don’t think we’re going to see a flood of teams trying to load up on superstars like Miami. I think teams are going to be careful not to do anything that could lead to them being compared to Miami. Most teams understand that no matter whom you add, the pieces have to fit, which Miami ignored in signing Wade and LeBron, who both essentially have the same games and need to have the ball.
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My response: Wrong, wouldn't you trade big for big and get a starting center with some offense, or anything resembling Dwight? I'm talking about AB. Wouldn't you want his expiring contract? Who would you rather trade for if you were the Magic than for Andrew to go along with Stan van Gundy, Jameer Nelson, JRich and company? Dwight doesn't have to take any paycut at all, not at the egregious rate or - $10-$15 million. Teams bidding for DH would have to presumably give up way more than the Lakers as well, those same teams would have to have the right money situation to even take up on those huge contracts. It's not as hard as you make it out to be. It's simple mathematics and finance.
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My response: he won't come cheap but what elite-level player ever comes cheap. Unless you are the Lakers mid 2008 stealing Pau Gasol, or the 2004 Miami Heat led by Pat Riley, you aren't giving up peanuts for all stars anyway. So the price might not seem fair, even if at the end we give up Lamar Odom and it might screw the bench a whole lot, on the other hand, there are nice free agents who possess Lamar's same speed, such as JR Smith that can fill the voids left by him, not all but most of them.

Posted by: PointFoward | June 15, 2011 at 06:20 PM "

OK, so LA offers Bynum for Dwight. If Orlando says no, what happens? LA either has to increase their offer or Dwight has to take a 10-15 million dollar pay cut and sign for whatever the CBA allows since the Lakers are already lightyears over the cap.

Dwight needs Orlando's help if he is to become a Laker. Orlando can simply hold out. The only way he can increase his leverage is to be willing to go to several different teams and that will, of course, greatly decrease the Lakers' leverage.

I still haven't heard him say he wants to come to the Lakers. What I have heard him say is that he doesn't want Shaq comparisons, he doesn't want to piggyback other players to a championship, and he wants to be a free agent. All of those quotes make the Lakers seem like an unlikely destination.

@Tom Wong

Since most of the fans on this blog have already traded Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard, they might want to consider whether Dwight would really want to play for the Lakers. Based on recent developments, it does not appear that the Lakers are even among Dwight’s top three picks.

-My response: nobody is saying it's a done deal, just that it's a possibility. Just because it makes the most sense and people keep clamoring for it to happen, it doesn't mean that we believe he IS here, we just making the case for why it's probable. All indications in fact, and media personalities from Orlando have already heard from Dwight's familiars that he would like to play here. Subtly but he has said it. He said it publicly. He said he will test the FA market next year. How many times does it have to be said on radio, on twitter, on blogs, by his own team's market for people to get that Dwight's head is already in L.A.

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Howard’s people recently released a list of favored locations which had the Lakers the #4 favored team on his list. Then there were the comments Dwight made about wanting to attract players to join him rather than leaving Orlando to join another player’s team. He wants to keep his options open.

-My response: As recent as a few weeks ago? Before the Mavericks beat the Heat? When his options weren't as open? He said quote: "I think the owners have to really know that. That's been my goal and my mission since I've been in the NBA -- to win a championship. I don't have side goals or agendas. My main goal is to win a championship. I want to have 14 other guys who feel the same way."

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/06/13/dwight-howard-free-agency-future/index.html?rss=true

Code word for: My team mates won't take me there, and ownership hasn't done enough.

He also said quote: ""I just told them, 'We've got to have guys who are going to play hard 48 minutes and who are going to battle the other team, who are going to fight night in and night out for a championship,"

Which is easier to do with another team such as the Lakers? than other teams.

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I think Dwight wants to be Wade rather than LeBron. I think he wants to be Batman not Robin. If he goes to New York, he is Batman and Amare becomes Robin. If he comes to the Lakers, he would be Robin to Kobe’s batman. I don’t think that’s a direction Dwight Howard wants to take.

-My response: How do you take him at his word about WANTING to stay with Orlando when his team HAS made major roster shakeups and still not won. Always coming up short, being the bridesmaid never the bride. Looking at his current situation and how the Heat were able to contend, do you honestly believe he wants to stay with the Magic? He likes the city but it hasn't helped him attain that level of success that would want him to remain there. It's not science it's fact.

Another thing to remember, is Kobe has been able to change his role, and adapt over the course of the few years to attain a maximum level of success. He did it with Shaq, he did it with Gasol+Bynum, why wouldn't he do it for the same guy he helped win a gold medal in the olympic team?

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Nobody’s talked about how the basketball world has reacted to the Miami Heat and how that may well change what future athletes decide to do. I think the last thing Dwight wants to do is find himself in a situation like LeBron and Miami have found themselves. That would wipe the grin off his face.
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-My response: But he didn't grow up in Orlando, he wasn't the self-proclaimed King of Akron, he never self-glossed himself as The Chosen One. He is a funny big man, who doesn't take a lot of stuff seriously, he just wants to win. These personality traits are what put LBJ and Dwight 180 degrees apart. One just wants to win, one just wants to "masquerade" as a profesional basketball player, who masquerades as if he wants to win a championship. The world doesn't hate Miami-or the notion of a big-three- just the personalities, the egos, the wanna-be champion mantra. The Celtics were hated or loved, the Lakers were hated or loved, the Miami heat were just hated.
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I don’t think we’re going to see a flood of teams trying to load up on superstars like Miami. I think teams are going to be careful not to do anything that could lead to them being compared to Miami. Most teams understand that no matter whom you add, the pieces have to fit, which Miami ignored in signing Wade and LeBron, who both essentially have the same games and need to have the ball.
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-My response: Teams don't care about looking like Miami- they didn't even create the "superteam". Teams such as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, etc (teams with a lot of success) are either loved/hated, and it doesn't matter who hates your team. These have always had historically great players, why would adding another player to their already sexy starting core be any different, and why would they care?

I have followed several mock drafts and there are several decent pgs available in the draft. I will post some names or you can get them on Bleacher Report. There was an interesting big named Henson I think who would be a steal for back up center/pf.

@Bay to LA
I still haven't heard him say he wants to come to the Lakers. What I have heard him say is that he doesn't want Shaq comparisons, he doesn't want to piggyback other players to a championship, and he wants to be a free agent. All of those quotes make the Lakers seem like an unlikely destination.

Posted by: Bay to La | June 15, 2011 at 06:45 PM
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Don't this the wrong, way but are you functioning? He has said it before that he first wants to win, second, he doesn't want to follow on anybody's footsteps. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to BE Shaq it just means that he wants to be himself. And his recent mea culpas and retractions always point out to a contradicted guy who has well, contradicting agends. If he came to the Lakers he would be making himself a ton of money as another poster mentioned through Ads, commercials, etc. It's like Shaq followed Kareem, Kareem followed Wilt. Dwight knows he will always be compared to centers in history, he just wants to make his own mark and not be compared to any, it doesn't mean he doesn't want to be a Laker, two different things.

If he felt he could win, and he could recruit players to Orlando to sign the extension he would have done it already. Which he hasn't. Let me quote directly from the Orlando Sentinel:

Even the Orlando Sentinel was acknowledging it.

The newspaper wrote on Monday: "The Magic have no intention of trading Howard unless he asks out and asks to go to a specific team, a la Carmelo Anthony.

"If Howard tells them he wants to move on to L.A., then the Magic have to consider a deal to receive compensation, and you could do worse than, say, Bynum.". Once he put it out there that he wants to test the FA (which is an easy way of not alienating fans and being more soft-gloves with the media than say... Lebron last summer?). I don't take him at his word when he's a walking contradiction. As I said before, the Lakers are over the salary cap, nd to make any trade for Dwight work, because the Magic won't be able to retain him and they don't want to lose him for nothing, they would have to take on some of our big contracts and we would have to take on some of theirs, so cross-cancelling and the Lakers would still have a high payroll. All it is, is musical chairs but at least you take advantage of a bad situation.

The only areas Bynum is better are from mid-range and the free throw line. Mid range is negligible because neither shoots very often from that distance and the difference between their free throw percentage is suprisingly small (66% vs 60%) considering how much ridicule Dwight gets for his free throws.

Posted by: Bay to La | June 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM
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Bay to LA,

Actually Dwight posted better numbers from mid-range than Drew this year. Plus, a higher % of Dwight’s shots also came from 10 feet and out. I remember having this discussion with LT earlier this season. Dwight made 40% of his 10-15ft shots compared to 28% for Drew. Here’s the complete

Dwight/Drew breakdown:
At Rim: 75%/74%
3-9Ft: 44%/42%
10-15ft: 40%/28%
16-23ft: 32%/29%

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Dwight Howard
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Andrew%20Bynum

Also here’s a breakdown of the percentage of their shots they take from each area. Dwight took 9% of his shots from 10-15ft compared to Drew taking 7% of his shots from there:

Dwight/Drew:
At Rim: 52%/53%
3-9ft: 34%/39%
10-15ft: 9%/7%
16-23ft: 5%/1%

Dwight almost took twice as many shots than Drew from 10-23ft (14% to 8%)

Other info: In 2009 Dwight shot 28% from 10-15 ft. In 2011 that improved to 40%. Drew shot 40% from 10-15 in 2009 and 2010, but dropped down to 28% this year.

Dwight has improved his mid-range shot substantially. However, Drew has shown he can hit that 10-15 shot in previous years thus I believe he just didn’t get many shots from that range this year to get into a consistent groove.


Is there a guy more full of himself the 888? take a read of the following...

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F--k him. He's implying that Pau Gasol was a mere lowly sidekick to Kobe in 2009 & 2010 and that LO, Artest, Bynum and Fish don't qualify as great players. I can promise you that the entire NBA disagrees with his assessment of talent.

Where he's right is that Kobe is a "killer," much like Jordan, Magic and Bird. I'll even throw Dwyane Wade in that category.

justa, I love you, but PLEASE don't drag in comments from that blog. I'm asking you simply out of respect for me. You advised me that they continue to trash me in there and, if that's the case, it goes without saying that hobbit has chimed in at some point. If he wants to come in here and do battle, that's fine. But I want that place to be a feint memory. I made a huge mistake ever going in there and an even bigger one returning after I left the first time. Generally speaking, they are NOT my type of fans and I have no interest in associating with them. They're ingrates.

The post above me just validated everything I just said. Right on kb all day! Your nose is buried in Kobe's a$$ even deeper than that dee-bag's!!

@POINT FORWARD… You made some excellent points. The good thing about these kinds of debates is that we’ll get to find out who’s right. Bottom line, the Lakers will end up with 1 of the 2 best centers in the league whatever happens. Right now, center is the least of our problems.
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I still haven't heard him say he wants to come to the Lakers. What I have heard him say is that he doesn't want Shaq comparisons, he doesn't want to piggyback other players to a championship, and he wants to be a free agent. All of those quotes make the Lakers seem like an unlikely destination.

Posted by: Bay to La | June 15, 2011 at 06:45 PM
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Dwight Howard saying if he could play with one other player it would be Kobe….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kji9Vpu2RA


Scott Howard-Cooper tweet about Kobe telling Dwight about realtors in LA. The same Scott Howard-Cooper that Dwight told a couple of days ago that’s he’s not signing an extension.

http://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/39555000355135488

@LROB … While there are players who have learned to become good set shot shooters later in their career like Magic and Kidd, most players either are or are not shooters. Anyone can become a better shooter with practice but it’s rare for any player to become a pure shooter later in his career. I think you can tell just looking at their form and shot that Drew is a better pure shooter than Drew. That’s not saying he is a better defender or rebounder or player, just that he has a shot whereas Dwight has to develop one, which he may do but chances are slim he will ever be Karl Malone from midrange.

One of the ways you can easily identify who is and is not a pure shooter in my opinion is how they shoot free throws. Pure shooters are the guys like Dirk, Terry, Kobe, Sasha, Korver, Reddick. One thing they all have in common is that when the pressure is greatest and the defense toughest, they can just flat out beat the defense and shoot the shot pure. That impeccable muscle memory that every great pure shooter has just takes over in those clutch moments. That’s why it’s hard for the super athletes who are not natural shooters like LeBron, Rondo, Dwight, Westbrook, et al usually never become consistent closers. They’re more muscle cars that lack the precision of the pure shooter.
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@LRob
Nice Cutless link earlier.

Thanks for the last two Howard links. I don't think there's any other city that would beat more tempting for an athelete who is already larger than life. Howard knows that he could take a bit less money in salary and more than make up for it with a bounty of new indorsements. If we are able to swap Bynum for Howard, we still need a significant upgrade at the PG. With no wiggle room left, we would have to choose between guys who are willing to take the MLE, draft picks(very unlikely that they would see any real playing time, or possible "amnesty clause" leftovers(we obviously don't know if this is going to be a part of the new CBA).
Even though netting Howard we significantly reduce the level of PG we would be able to acquire, I still think we could win Rings next year with this starting five:

Kobe
unknown starting PG
Pau
Artest
Howard

@LakerTom
Once again, excellent takes on the Drew vs Howard debate. I really liked the pure shooter argument and I agree with it 100%. Drew is definately a better shooter than Howard, but Howard gets the overall nod in my book for being superior at footwork, drawing a double team, moving without the ball(from one side of the block to the other and from the elbow areas to closer to the rack), passing, defending his man while playing excellent help D, hunger for a ring, and overall DURABILITY and DEPENDABILITY.

forgot to add:

PLEASE SAY NO TO J.R.

His talent level is sky high, but his intelligence level is minor's cave low.

We already have one knucklehead on the Lakers, albeit a reformed one.

JR

the guy can shoot
streaky though but he always gave the Lakers fits.

Troll Man - I deleted your comment about hobbitimage. That was a personal attack and that's not going to be tolerated

"Howard knows that he could take a bit less money in salary and more than make up for it with a bounty of new indorsements"

While that may be true for middle-tier players like Ron, the place of residence does not matter as much if you are the best center in the NBA. The big national advertisers will flock to Howard no matter where he lives.

Payton Manning, for example, lives in Indy but has more TV endorsements than Kobe. Tiger Woods lives in Orlando but has tons of endorsements (well, at least he used to until Elin chased him with that 9-iron).

Whether Howard lands in LA, Dallas or OKC, he will draw endorsements as long as he continues to be the best center in the NBA.

The thing I remember most about JR Smith is his stoopid boastfulness.

One game in the Denver Lakers series in 2009, Smith was on a hot streak hitting 3's and Denver had pretty much wrapped up a win. He hit a 3 with a couple minutes left right in front of the Lakers bench, and then a little chicken dance thing in front of the Lakers bench.

I asked my friends watching the game, "Did anyone tell him that it's a 7 game series, and his team is still trailing?"

to paraphrase Jim Croce,

You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
and you don't mess around with the mutha-luvin Mamba.

Howard will make a max contract wherever he goes, whether it's with the Lakers or some other team. To offer him less would be insulting.

MM, that was an 888 comment on another blog

Isn't ironic that he get's away with that there, but while he was here, he was requesting posts to be banned because of handle names.

Let us revisit some of 888 history.


Every aspect of the practice season is unfolding before your very eyes, including all the quotes from the players, coaching staff, and NBA analysts in the media who echo this concept, yet not only do you refuse to grasp it, you're missing out on the very enjoyment of it. Or maybe not. Perhaps it is I who am missing out on something here? If so, I am all ears. But until you convince me otherwise, the real season can't come soon enough and that doesn't happen until mid-April. Can you grasp that?

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 12, 2011 at 04:36 AM


Lew, he is, without more, a waste of your valuable time. He bastardizes the sacred concept of the "Practice Season" and would earn an automatic ban from me if I was moderating this blog for mocking and insulting everything the Lakers stand for.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 11, 2011 at 09:48 PM

I'll never understand why everyone plays footsie with these nauseating trolls, inner trolls and posers. They are here for one purpose; to spew their hateful anti-Lakers venom and disrupt the positive Lakers vibe in here. Candidly, you were at your best when you stood up to these jerks, but you have taken a kinder, gentler approach which I respect, but which does not come as naturally to me. I'll give some serious thought to scrolling past their crap and just focusing on Lakers basketball and the NBA as we approach the starting line of the Real Season.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 24, 2011 at 10:04 AM


Your use of this MOCKING handle of yours "started" it. And what about the rest of your ilk who get great joy in wishing injuries on our players and who repeatedly bash Fish, Bynum, Luke, Pau, Blake, PJ, etc? Why do you defend them?

You have still failed and refused, and continue to fail and refuse, to define the "practice season" and give examples of what it means, yet you choose to farcically own the handle of "Practice Season Police." ." I asked you to get rid of it and I asked MM to ban it, but neither you nor him would respect that simple request. What I want to know is how can you possibly "patrol" that which you do not even understand? If you had even a BASIC understanding of it, you wouldn't MOCK it (or should I say me) .. if you were REALLY a Lakers fan, that is.


Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Poor persecuted 888

And some responses

Perhaps it's the content of your posts and the opinions that you espouse that has a bigger influence on what others may think of you, not another bloggers handle.

Posted by: Art | February 12, 2011 at 05:54 AM

Everyone who visits here is likely to form opinions on others based upon what those 'others' write as well as how those 'others' interact with other bloggers. The tone used and the respect or lack therof shown to others will certainly influence the opinions that people develop of other people.

Anyone who shows a disrespect of others opinions or who admonishes others for not fitting their stereotype of, for example, how a Laker fan should think/feel/act/support, is committing a faux pas. This isn't any great psychological insight on my part, it's something my mother taught me as a youngster.

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone and providing an alternative viewpoint which expresses how you feel. Personally, I enjoy the give and take, the back and forth, of opposing viewpoints. Sometimes someone will even post something that changes my mind/opinion about something. I actually like when that happens because it makes me feel like a window has been opened that was previously closed.

Sometimes people get caught up in a rigid way of thinking. They form an opinion or belief and then come hell or high water they cling to that belief or opinion like their life depends on it, refusing to reconsider. It's a short journey from there to intolerance, to developing narrow minded views and then one day you find you are addicted to watching a famous personality known for their intolerance and you think they are right on.

If you find yourself often caught up in controversy and it's something you relish then just proceed with abandon, enjoy the journey and certainly don't complain when that controversy finds you. If you find that you aren't enjoying the controversy that comes your way then examine your own behavior and stop and identify what it is about yourself that is causing the self-inflicted wounds. Instead of looking outside for someone or something to blame, look within.

Posted by: Art | February 13, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Until you lose this handle which sole purpose is aimed at trashing me and turning the entire forum against me...
Posted by: KobeMVP888
=================

Surely you jest.

Do you truly believe that the PSP handle has any affect on what others think of your posts and that his handle turns others against you?

If you think that's how everyone forms opinions and that a persons handle could turn anyone against you, you should rethink that opinion because it's an insult to the decision making and evaluation skills of everyone else who reads the blog.

Perhaps it's the content of your posts and the opinions that you espouse that has a bigger influence on what others may think of you, not another bloggers handle.

Posted by: Art | February 12, 2011 at 05:54 AM

What the PSP find hard to believe is how many people the idiot of a moron managed to sucker into his nonsense. I am sooo tempted to go on that hollinger blog and give him a good talking to BUT i will do like hobbit and take the high road ... for now.

Thanks
PSP Intern

Btw on the current topic, depending on who we have to let go, JR Smith is not bad to have coming off the bench for instant offense. He can't do much worse than what we have right now anyways.

Thanks
PSP Officer

@LTLF – I saw all the teams you listed possible destinations for Howard. Here’s my response
Miami – if they offer Lebron yes Orlando jumps all over it…end of story. But how realistic is that? Boston – They don’t have anyone Orlando can build a team around – cross them off the list.
Chicago – Boozer & Noah would be very interesting.
OKC – If you’re not offering Westbrook or Durant ….no deal.
Dallas – see Boston.
I think Orlando will try to move Dwight out of the East if possible (similar to the Lakers with Shaq). But it really comes down to where Dwight wants to play. Out of the realistic options I believe it comes down to Chicago and LA.


@LT – I agree most of what you’re saying about pure shooters. I don’t know if that really fits this conversation however. , I don’t want Dwight or (Drew either) shooting to much outside of 10-12 ft. They’re both so big and strong…they should be doing the bulk of their damage at the rim.

I do believe Drew is more of a natural shooter than Dwight. My big point is that many people still have this image of 2009 Howard in their mind, but the fact is he’s much improved.

LRob

Here's a LeBron interview that is really good.

And if you don't like LeBron you will probably just love this...


http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhXApF8XG12z1ctuD4

>>>I'm talking about AB. Wouldn't you want his expiring contract?

If all you want is expiring contract, then why trade Howard at all? Just let him opt out and sign with another team... Voila! 20 million worth of expiring contract.

>>>Dwight needs Orlando's help if he is to become a Laker. Orlando can simply
>>>hold out. The only way he can increase his leverage is to be willing to go to
>>>several different teams and that will, of course, greatly decrease the Lakers'
>>>leverage.

Not at all.

If Orlando refuses to trade Dwight during the regular season, he can opt out in the summer. And then he can tell Orlando: you have two choices... work out a sign and trade with the Lakers, or I'll sign with another team and you get nothing.

In that case, that would increase Dwight's leverage to come to the Lakers.

>>>Boston – They don’t have anyone Orlando can build a team around – cross
>>>them off the list.

But they have a reputation for building some of the biggest dynasties in the league. And they would have a good PG in Rondo. Considering PG and C are the hardest positions to find talent at, they'd be well on the way.

The problem with Boston as a trade partner is that most of the talent they could offer in exchange are old (Garnett, Pierce, Allen). So unless Boston could pull a 4 way trade where Garnett goes to some team and Pierce goes to another team and those teams send Orlando pieces they want, you're right... probably cross them off the list.

But bet your ass that Danny Ainge would be calling and trying to wheel and deal if Howard was available.

>>>But it really comes down to where Dwight wants to play.

There are other teams that could get in play:

Portland: some package built around Aldridge
Golden State: David Lee, Stephen Curry, and change?
New York: a package built around Amare?
New Jersey: Brook Lopez + whatever?

With those teams, it's more questionable whether Dwight would want to go there, so he might not agree to sign an extension as part of a deal...

But if the new CBA has a Franchise Player tag, then he might not have a choice. If that's in the new deal, then Orlando doesn't have to care where Dwight WANTS to go, just take the best deal they're offered.

And just to confirm Laker Tom's suspicion:

http://www.82games.com/0809/FGSORT12.HTM

I've got the chart sorted by Inside Shots, but if you check the FG% for 2 point jump shots, you'll find that Bynum hits .397 on 2-point jump shots. Pretty bad. I wouldn't want him taking a lot of jump shots...

but Howard hits an abysmal .329 on jump shots. Utter pooch food.

LTLF,

Those stats are from 2009. (Boy I knew people were stuck on Dwight's 2009 game...lol. J/K). If you go to 2011 you'll see Dwight's FG% improved dramatically on "jump shots"....nevertheless...that chart is very vague I believe the info I posted @ 7:44pm from hoopdata is more useful because it break downs shots from 3-9ft, 10-15ft, 16-23ft...etc.

http://hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Dwight Howard
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Andrew%20Bynum

LRob


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