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Assistant coach candidate profile: Scott Roth

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This is the fifth post in a series looking at potential Lakers assistant coaches. Here we profile Toronto Raptors assistant coach Scott Roth, who, ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin reported, is on Lakers Coach Mike Brown's list of finalists for his coaching staff.

Background: Roth's recent stint with the Toronto Raptors caps an extensive coaching career that has included assistant coaching gigs and coaching in international competition. The assistant coaching gigs include the Golden State Warriors (2009-10), Vancouver/Memphis Grizzlies (2000-2002) and Dallas Mavericks (1996-2000). In between those gigs, Roth was an assistant coach for the Turkish national team that won a silver medal in the 2000 European Championships and gold in the 2001 FIBA World Championship.

Roth also has had head coaching experience with the Dominican Republic National team  in 2007 and 2008, winning a silver medal at the CBC Caribbean Championships in Puerto Rico, and with the Bakersfield Jam during the 2008-09 season, when he guided the team to its first postseason appearance with a 26-24 record. In addition, Roth spent four seasons as a scout and advisor for the Milwaukee Bucks.

Laker-related connections: Roth was an assistant coach with the Grizzlies during Gasol's first two years with the team and also coached Trey Johnson when he was with the Bakersfield Jam.

Style: Roth has cemented his reputation as a coach who's successful at developing players, particularly big men. ESPN.com's Chad Ford mentioned that Roth proved to be instrumental in helping Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki and Hasheem Thabeet transition to the NBA. Matt Steinmetz, who covers the Warriors for Comcast SportsNet Bay Area, mentioned in a podcast that Roth's various  coaching stints would give him the ability to adapt to about any system a head coach would run. That flexibility would prove beneficial to the Lakers, along with Roth's history with Gasol and the fact that Brown hopes to institute an offense that partly centers around Gasol and Andrew Bynum getting touches in the high post and through pick-and-rolls.

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Photo: Scott Roth coached the Bakersfield Jam during the 2008-09 season, when he guided the team to its first postseason appearance with a 26-24 record. Credit: Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images

 
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@HOBBITMAGE ... Thanks for the link to Kareem’s interview. I’ve loved Kareem from back in his Lew Alcindor days. I always have a tough time deciding who was the GCOAT between Wilt, Russ, and Kareem. None of today’s center get close in my opinion, even Dwight Howard.
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As for emulating Kareem, I remember shooting dozens of sky hoots watching the shadows on my garage door to make sure I got the move right. Pretty sweet form if I do say so myself. But the fact that it’s a shot that has never been successfully copied by another big man probably speaks to the lack of players focusing on back to the basket moves as well as the difficulty of mastering the shot.
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Were I Drew, I would have definitely worked on that shot until I got it, just as I am sure you would. Of course, if I were Drew I would play with Noah’s motor, too. The problem is that everybody is different and has their own strengths and styles. I spent the entire last year trying to teach my grandson and his teammates how to make layups and shoot jumpers and you cannot believe the range of styles even 10-year old kids possess. Luckily, I had a couple of great shooters to go with a bunch of kids with jumpers that reminded me of Shawn Marion and Joakim Noah.
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Bottom line, I think Drew’s body type is more prone to playing like Shaq or a banger than a finesse player like Kareem. The guy who should really learn the sky hook is probably Pau Gasol. He has the type of body and moves that would be easier to incorporate the sky hook than Drew IMO. :-)
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TOM

Since we've been discussing major trades, Roth would sort of kill the action.

But when it comes to assistant coaches - I'm looking for a rare savant type that can come up with some sick strategy that just stumps all the other teams. Anyone out there like that?

re: the sky hook, i agree laker tom, drew has a wide middle and i don't think he would be able to slink into the shot. he would get a lot of offensive calls. i think that pau would be a better one to try it. i also agree with you if it were easy, a lot of centers would be using it already

No i wouldn'trade Pau for Kevin Love,Pau is easily a top or three Power forward when he's right.What does Love bring to the table that's a bigger asset than Pau?Rebounding,the Lakers was already a top team in rebounding without Love.I think about his skil set and its definitely up to Pau 's level,i don't know if i want to depend on Lamor inconsistency to help out,or even Bynum.Pau's skill far out weighs those guys,and i think the Lakers can still win a championship with the core as is,we just need a few good role players and there right back where we belong.Pau should only be traded if for a D.Howard or Cp3,or DA Williams.

Go LAKERS!

LakerTom,

thanks for the reply.

To be honest, I was thinking less of the Skyhook and more about general
overall game.

@Ocleazy

I think one of the reasons why the Lakers have been very good just having Gasol around, is because he has a little of Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Tim Duncan. All of those guys have won multiple championships. Just like after the Lakers got run after reloading, and we were beaming with confidence in 04', after winning a lot of championships, we changed the direction of the team letting go of the same guys that were part of that success. The only difference between that time and today, Phil Jackson was still going to coach, and we can get solid contributors and it's not a rebuilding project like it was back then.

Gasol shredding his league averages in half and noshowing, a-la Lebron, have left everyone with a bad taste on their mouth - leading to the staff overhaul, and soon player overhaul. It's my opinion that while Gasol is better with his back to the basket largely due to his tall lanky, frame, and he is good for a quick two step dribble to the basket like he USED to do, his productivity was 50% of the reason why the Lakers weren't able to win ONE game against the Mavericks when every team took them to 6. The 'core' wasn't able to defend their title when they were given the right to, that's not debatable. The new Mike Brown style of play doesn't require a finesse big in the low block, it needs bangers, rebounders and hustlers (non of which Gasol resembles right now). Which is why Kevin Love works well because eventhough he is undersized, he is meaty and has that chip on his shoulder so he just works harder than others to get those rebounds - his rebounding averages don't just fall into his hands like they do for Andrew and Gasol.

KLove has a lot to work with, but he looks like a workaholic with his feet firmly placed into the ground. If the Lakers and Kareem are good, maybe he can work with him, or maybe Kevin asks Kareem to teach him over the summer-pending a deal obviously.

That being said ... if the #2 or Michael Beasley aren't included in this package, Kahn is banking on too much - and now you know why the T'Wolves aren't in the mix for the championship every season. Pending a deal for Jonny Flynn to the Knicks or whatever, his production dropped in half from last year. He would be IMO a better version of Smush Parker, and I wouldn't do the trade if he was in the deal, I would hold out for Deron Williams (for his offense - career 17.2 PPG; playmaking - career 9.2 APG; and perimeter shooting - 0.35% 3PT career -solving both perimeter and playmaking in one fell swoop) or Chris Paul (for his offense - career 18.7 PPG; playmaking - 9.9 APG; or defense - 2.4 steals). They would all be worth trading Gasol for.

@HOBBITMAGE ... Kareem was such a talented and coordinated guy that I don’t think his skill set and Drew’s are a good match. Can’t really name a center with his unique skill set. While Kareem had his questionable moments and a few silly fights in his time and some chips that still seem to be on his shoulder, he was overall a great pro with a genuine conscience and heart. A great player and a great human being in my mind and I think he and Drew probably shared a lot in common about the books they read and the subjects that interested them. Intelligent guys with shared mentality.
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Hopefully, part of what we saw from Drew last year when he focused almost exclusively on defense and rebounding during that infamous 17-1 streak was the result of the mentoring done by Kareem. Mentor or not, there comes a time when every player has to make his own mark. That’s what Drew needs to do next year. My main goal for Drew next year is not for him to get more shot attempts, although I do believe he will, but to reprise the exact same role he did during the big run – focus on defense and boards and let the rest of the game come to him as it may. That’s the winning formula.
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By the same token, I want to see Mike Brown get Kobe focused on defense again, shutting down his man and not free lancing looking for steals. Kobe can be a huge factor in helping shore up our perimeter defense just by his own play and focus. Getting him easier higher percentage shots on offense should leave him with more energy for playmaking and defense. I hope it just wasn’t offensive plays that had Mike and Kobe working on when they got together. Time for Kobe to walk the walk and earn his first team all-NBA defensive award. That’s my defensive game plan.
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TOM


Re: pau. forget about the second half of the season, watch him play for the spanish team to see if he's fit. remember, HE's the one who was needed to bring us back to the party. it was clear that he wasn't right,but if it was physical or emotional, he will do something to correct it. he is not a banger, never was,never will be. but he still gets his rebounds. he is a great passer, great shot when he is fit. great character, locker room influence and people want to get rid of him. you know i guess it is true to some extent, what is said of laker fans. you know , what have you done for me lately?

I am open to trade of Pau if we get Love and #2 and #4 picks. Unlikely so I would keep core and add TJ Ford FA and use draft to bolster perimeter players scorers and defenders.

I didn't know about Roth but sounds good.

@LakerTom By the same token, I want to see Mike Brown get Kobe focused on defense again, shutting down his man and not free lancing looking for steals. Kobe can be a huge factor in helping shore up our perimeter defense just by his own play and focus.

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I would think Kobe and Mike are thinking the same. The only way however, Kobe would be able to, as you said getting high % shots off, picking the right spots, is if he turned the clock back by having someone help him on offense so he can focus on picking his sweet spots and not wasting a ton of energy doing Steve Blake's job, putting up shots. If we get someone like that, or someone that can own the paint, or make plays for him .. in other words a legitimate star, Kobe will just be one year older, trying to play small forward or the point - to the detriment of the team. Get him some shooters or blockers and maybe they can run something other than the triangle correctly to make it work the first time (See: CP3 running the break with Kobe to water your mouth).

with a little bit of luck/karma, kobe will view this last season as he did after 2008, with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove. i still believe that what is most needed is the entire team's committment to WORK HARD ALL THE TIME!! I agree that a speedy PG would certainly be welcomed, but if the lakers play TEAM DEFENSE the way they have and can,and pau gets his mojo back and drew doesn't brake his leg hiking in the swiss alps,and ,IF we have a season then it can be good

LROB... Trading Pau now for Love, the #2, et al doesn’t affect the Lakers ability to pull off a deal for Dwight since that deal would involve Drew rather than Pau and would likely happen during the season before the trade deadline or during free agency next summer, assuming we have a new CBA.
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Posted by: LakerTom | June 20, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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LT - You're probably right. But what if Orlando prefers some package with Pau instead of Drew? I think the Lakers should put all their marbles in the DHoward sweepstakes and then make other moves from there. I would reluctantly do the T-Wolves deal if they made it Love, Wes Johnson and #2. While I like KLove's game I think the Lakers can hold out an get a superstar because Orlando, NJ and NO will be motivated sellers soon.

Hmmm coach Roth helped Dirk, Pau and Thabeet transition to the NBA. I'm not sure I would tout my work with Thabeet right about now.


Anyway it looks like Jim Boylen is set to be hired.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6682042


@LANCE ... Thanks for your comments about the sky hook. LOL. I used to kill other players in under 6’ leagues with my sky hook. Now that I cannot jump any more, it’s become my go-to move. I can also see the team bouncing back but I have to admit I no longer believe in Pau.
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@LROB ... Excellent points as always. I can’t conceive of a situation where we would trade Pau for Dwight but who knows. Some opportunities never come to fruition so I would take the first great move that comes for Pau, even if it is Love and the #2 rather than CP3 or DWill, although I would prefer the latter. My bet is that all three of these guys get traded – maybe before the trade deadline, but maybe not until they are free agents next summer. Those 3 aren’t going to go w/o a new CBA.
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TOM


LakerTom,

you wrote: Kareem was such a talented and coordinated guy that I don’t think his skill set and Drew’s are a good match.

my response: So ... Kareem mentoring Drew was not the best choice? That
sucks.

you wrote: Mentor or not, there comes a time when every player has to make his own mark.

my response: hmmm ... this seems sketchy to me. While I don't expect
Bynum to be to squeeze through the same openings as Kareem, I would
expect him to be able to gain the same vision. That's probably not a good way
to phrase it. At the risk of beating a dead horse:

Consider Kobe: His game looks a lot like MJ's because he's emulating MJ.
Going farther back, I believe you can see flashes of Elgin Baylor & Dr. J
because those were the players he had tapes of and patterned his game
after. So ... who is Bynum's game patterned after if not his mentor?

you wrote: My main goal for Drew next year is not for him to get more shot attempts, although I do believe he will, but to reprise the exact same role he did during the big run – focus on defense and boards and let the rest of the game come to him as it may. That’s the winning formula.

my response: I like this.

re: By the same token, I want to see Mike Brown get Kobe focused on defense again, shutting down his man and not free lancing looking for steals. Kobe can be a huge factor in helping shore up our perimeter defense just by his own play and focus. Getting him easier higher percentage shots on offense should leave him with more energy for playmaking and defense. I hope it just wasn’t offensive plays that had Mike and Kobe working on when they got together. Time for Kobe to walk the walk and earn his first team all-NBA defensive award.

my response:

1. Kobe was returning off of knee surgery. Did you forget that? *I* thought it
would have healed faster. Kobe's words were: He thought he could have
gotten to another level w/ more time to work out. We'll find out next season.

2. re: freelancing for steals. Umm ... I think that's the way Kobe plays
defense.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

He had a 20% drop off in steals from two years ago. I think you're looking
at age.

re: playmaking. Tell the front line to run all game. Tell the perimeter players
to make their shots. The shooting of Artest & D-Fish was sooooo bad!

re: Time for Kobe to walk the walk and earn his first team all-NBA defensive award.

I think Kobe "walks the walk" just fine. Just out of curiosity ....

If in 5 years Kobe's medical history is released and we find the following:

right knee: bone on bone
left ankle: arthritic
right index finger: arthritic
left pink: permanently deformed

Will you give him props for playing hurt or will you still find things to bad
mouth him for? You do realize that you come across as ungrateful, right?
I'm not saying that you are. I'm saying that's how you come across.

And yes, I'm aware that one might say the same thing about me and Bynum.
Which is one of the reasons why I've kept stressing that he played great
at the end of last season. And yes, I do see a difference b/n playing hurt
during the regular season vs. playing hurt in the playoffs/finals.

Much as I like Dwight Howard, if we get a decent shooter and pg, the bigs we currently have won't have to work as hard because the defense will have to play honest. We get someone who can light it up from anywhere beyond the 20-25ft mark, all of a sudden, Gasol and Bynum aren't facing double teams anymore.

So with all that in mind, Pau for CP3 and Mbenga and a bag of chips would go over well with me as CP3 can light it up from the outside or drive and kick, plus play some D.


@HOBBITMAGE ... I actually think Kareem was the perfect mentor for Drew because they shared so much mentally and intellectually even if the physical comparison was not ideal. I have no doubt that Drew’s intelligent view of the game and his role in it has been greatly influenced by Kareem. I just don’t think you can attribute his hesitancy to incorporate the sky hook in his repertoire as Drew slighting Kareem. I think they both have a genuine mutual respect for each other and their work together. I don’t find the sour grapes quote from Kareem about Drew to be anything but emotions at work when disappointed. Almost every word from either about the other has been positive.
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As for Kobe, you make a good point. I sure don’t ever want anybody to believe I am not a true and dedicated Kobe Bryant fan to the end. I love Kobe and unlike many posters on this blog I trust his intelligence and desire to win to overrule his passion for scoring and dominating games. I do not shy from admitting when I think he is not doing the best thing for his team or his career but I also don’t blow things like his pecking order comments or refusal to comment on Mike Brown out of perspective. I never really doubt that Kobe will adjust his play to meet what the team needs and what he can deliver as he approaches the end of his career, which I think is still a couple of year off. Where we differ is that I realize Kobe is just human and finding the right balance between his killer game and drive and the needs of a team is always a changing and difficult job that he does great.
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TOM

>>>No i wouldn'trade Pau for Kevin Love,Pau is easily a top or three Power
>>> forward when he's right.What does Love bring to the table that's a bigger
>>> asset than Pau?

1. outlet passing
2. 3-point shooting
3. youth
4. upside

Pau might be good for another 2 to 4 years (assuming that the 2011 playoffs wasn't a sign that he's already slipping), and his skills will likely degrade over that time.

Love will be good for at least 10 more years, and he hasn't yet hit his peak.

And the other benefit is the other players &/or #2 pick, which would add youth, speed, and athleticism to the Lakers. Something they were lacking that got them slaughtered by Dallas.

Okay, here's another thing to think about.

For those of you hoping to trade for Chris Paul, what PG are the Lakers giving New Orleans back in the trade?

Right now the Hornets have several decent front court players (Okafor, David West, Carl Landry), but they're pretty weak in the guards.

Do you really think the best deal they'd be able to find is Pau fo Chris Paul, straight up? That leaves them with 4 or more quality bigs (2 All Stars), and Jarrett Jack as their best point.

Steve Blake certainly wouldn't be an upgrade.

Okay, so what if the Love+2 trade did go down. The Lakers could draft a high upside point guard, plus they'd be breaking down one big chunk of a contract into several smaller contracts.

Right now, here are the Lakers tradeable assets and what they make next season. I'm assuming Kobe is completely untouchable, and that Bynum would only be traded for Dwight Howard if that comes up. I'm also assuming Luke is untradeable this season.

Pau Gasol - 18.7 million
Andrew Bynum - 14.9 million
Lamar Odom - 8.9 million
Ron Artest - 6.8 million
Steve Blake - 4 million
Derek Fisher - 3.7 million
Devin Ebanks - 800K
Derrick Caracter - 800K

On that list, Pau, Drew, and Lamar have a lot of trade value. You can get quality players back for them. Maybe even an all-star for a package including Drew or Pau.

Artest has some value as a defensive stopper. It would have to be a team that was desperate for improvement at the SF position, and who wasn't afraid of a recurrence of crazy pills. He's not going to get you an All-Star back, but probably some decent rotation player.

Blake and Barnes - if they don't play any better this year, their contracts are only good for salary matching. If they start the year off like they started last season, then they have slightly more value, but still they're not going to get you anyone much better than they are. Might get lucky like Mitch did with the Radmanovic for Morrison & Brown deal, but not much else.

Right now the Lakers also have 4 second round picks in a weak draft, a trade exception (which might be able to get them Jonny Flynn or Ramon Sessions if no other team wants him and their teams are intent on dumping them)

So basically, people are saying, HEY! We don't need to trade any of our core. All we need to do is add a young quick PG, and we'll be fine.

And that's where I say, Is Flynn good enough? Is Sessions? Because that's about the top quality of player the Lakers can obtain without trading any of Andrew, Pau, or Lamar.

You want a better shooter? Fine. Is Marco Belinelli enough? How about Jason Kapono? Neither of them can spell the word defense, but the Lakers could probably get either one of them. Maybe JR Smith, but there'll probably be more competition for him, and the Lakers can't offer him a starting role.

So basically that's about the level of improvement they could make. If the Lakers were willing to go OVER 100 MILLION IN SALARY next year (before luxury tax), then they could probably bring in Flynn and Belinelli... or Sessions and Smith... or something at that level.

Is that enough? Or is that a recipe for getting smoked again by Dallas next spring?

If you want a serious upgrade at point guard or a serious shooter who can actually defend, then it'll take more than Barnes/Blake/Artest/Fisher/2nd round picks.

Trading Lamar could probably get the Lakers someone at the level of Monta Ellis or Devin Harris or Ray Felton. Probably. Not definitely. Drew or Pau are the only ones with enough trade value to bring in a CP3 or a Deron Williams, but neither of them works well as a direct trade to New Jersey or New Orleans.

New Jersey is already in the middle of a rebuild. If New Orleans doesn't move up this season, then they're probably about to start a rebuild as well. In both cases, their All-Star point guards are likely to jump ship if they think their respective teams aren't going to contend any time soon.

Now consider if the Lakers could actually pull off a Pau for Love +#2 deal. Here's what the trade assets might look like:


Andrew Bynum - 14.9 million
Lamar Odom - 8.9 million
Ron Artest - 6.8 million
Darko Milicic - 4.8 million
Kevin Love - 4.6 million
Martell Webster - 5.2 Million
Steve Blake - 4 million
rookie from #2 - 4 million
Derek Fisher - 3.7 million
Jonny Flynn - 3.4 million
Devin Ebanks - 800K

The rookie at #2 could be Derrick Williams, but more likely it would be one of the top PGs - either Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight.

With that list of pieces, it's much easier to match pieces to make trades.

What might New Orleans want? Well, definitely a PG (Walker or Knight), probably a SF who can hit 3's would be nice (Webster), and maybe a big with real size (most of their bigs are slightly undersized - how bout Milicic).

What might New Jersey want? Again, start with a PG (Walker or Knight). Throw in a PF (Love or Odom) and maybe another role player (Webster? Artest? If it's Love, maybe they'd take on Luke's contract to balance things out).

What might Orlando want for Dwight Howard? Bynum, certainly. Maybe an athletic wing (Webster)? Maybe a phenom rookie PG (Walker/Knight), for which they'd include Jameer Nelson.

Basically, breaking Pau into multiple assets would give the Lakers MORE flexibility in trading for any of Howard, Paul, or Williams. Especially if Kevin Love is one of the pieces they get back. And especially if the point guard they draft plays well in his rookie season (until the trade deadline, when Howard/Paul/Williams might actually become available).

And I'll do that list one better.

Cleveland REALLY wants to trade up to the #2 and draft both Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams. They're allegedly offering Ramon Sessions &/or JJ Hickson plus the #4 pick to get the #2 pick.

So if the Lakers pulled off the Kevin Love + #2 trade, and if they were planning on drafting a PG and not Derrick Williams, then they could work a trade with Cleveland & end up with this list of assets:

Andrew Bynum - 14.9 million
Lamar Odom - 8.9 million
Ron Artest - 6.8 million
Darko Milicic - 4.8 million
Kevin Love - 4.6 million
Martell Webster - 5.2 Million
Steve Blake - 4 million
rookie from #2 - 4 million
Derek Fisher - 3.7 million
Jonny Flynn - 3.4 million
JJ Hickson - 2.3 million
Devin Ebanks - 800K

It just becomes easier to make a trade package with multiple assets than with one big asset.

So if you're hoping for the Lakers to trade for Dwight Howard or Chris Paul or Deron Williams, then I'd say that a Pau trade likely gets them closer rather than farther away.

Funny that you mention it, I was thinking about a trade for Devin Harris two hours ago. My perfect trade scenario here it goes:

Four team blockbuster trade. Package built around Odom (Devin Ebanks+Derrick Caracter) for Devin Harris, Derrick Favors out of Utah. Derrick Williams #2, KLove to the Bulls for Noah and Luol Deng (Derrick Rose is happy).


Derricks and Devins are winners in this trade scenario.

No seriously, LongTimeLakerFan. I was always of the mind that trades for any of those players, Gasol, DHoward, Chris Paul, etc would need to be blockbuster trades. I've mentioned it before, it's not a matter of, will it happen, rather what teams should be involved.

Another thing I want to mention for you Kyrie, Kemba Walker fans out there. How has Paul Wall been last year? Some are of the thinking that the Lakers should get KLove and #2, Kemba or Kyrie to fix some of our PG issues, while Andrew pack. and Dwight/aren't mutually exclusive.

For me I wouldn't hate the Monta Ellis trade, but since we're talking trades, and one of your two biggest trading chips for the duration of Kobe's last highly competitive years, and more realistic chances of winning another title,the implications of making the "wrong" move would be bad. Instead go for the sure decision in Chris Paul or Deron Williams. Deron is taller and more offensive minded, Chris Paul is shorter but a better defender. Both help on the wing, both can penetrade and kick, both will immediately contribute into any coaching scheme. Dwight Howard on the other hand is a matchup problem, while if we traded Pau for KLove (would necessitate not trading for CP3-Deron Williams if we want Dwight), would mean the Lakers have to find some other guard that can run the offense. I'm not saying Ramon Sessions, or Monta aren't good, but we have to see what we do about Dwight Howard, if we get him, we might have to go the Sessions/JR Smith/Steve Nash route and those aren't bad at all.

The question then becomes. What off-season acquisition would better benefit the Lakers going forward. Keep in mind Mike Brown is the coach for the next 4 years. A premium is put on any offense that doesn't run the triangle, so maybe we should be looking at Chris Paul/Deron instead. Then you could have CP3 (via Gasol), we can start Odom and have a defensive liability but he can help run the offense and shoot some threes. Maybe we can try and pry someone like Danilo Galinari or Nene, or Wilson Chandler, nothing close to Gasol's overall game, but given someone like CP3 or Deron running the point you have Odom being undefensible, Kobe commanding a double team, Andrew helping out on D, Cp3/Deron doing what they do.

Getting Dwight in any scenario here would be a bonus, just not sure how we would make the money work.

PointForward,

I agree that CP3 or Deron Williams would be the best possible addition the Lakers could make. There are two problems I can forsee.

The first problem is that they (like Howard) don't really have the leverage to force their teams into trades right now. When the trade deadline comes creeping up, then all three of those guys will have the same sort of leverage that Carmelo had last year. Their teams know they could walk for nothing (like LeBron and Bosh did), so they'll be willing to make a deal.

So I think there's basically a 0% chance that the Lakers could trade for any of those three players this summer. And maybe a 10% chance that they could trade for one of them near next season's trade deadline.

I think Bynum and Odom (assuming they stay healthy and productive) might satisfy Orlando. Maybe even Bynum and something less than Odom (e.g give them someone else and take back Turkoglu's big contract).

The second problem has to do with what the Lakers have to offer in a trade.

A deal for CP3 or DWill isn't as good a match for the Lakers. Now that Fisher has fizzled to almost nothing, the Lakers don't even have a moderately good PG to include in the trade. So you'd be leaving New Orleans in the hands of Jarrett Jack or New Jersey in the hands of Jordan Farmar.

Jersey may go for that, as their front line would improve to Lopez and Gasol. Also Prokorov (or whatever his name is) made the statement that he's trying to build a championship level team in 5 years, so adding Pau may appeal to him more than unproven rookies with upside.

No chance New Orleans, with Okafor, West, and Landry takes that deal. They'd want a suitable PG who was either capable of starting now, or who had a ton of upside so he could turn out to be a very good starter in the future. And for other talent, they'd probably prefer either a true big big (none of their bigs is over 6'10") or young SGs &/or SFs with lots of upside. That's the sort of players that would improve them most as a team.

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And that's why a Pau trade now improves the Lakers odds of trading for Paul or Williams later.

If they get Kevin Love, a decent rookie PG, and a couple of other rotation players (let's say Webster and Milicic), it gives them broad flexibility about what they could offer in a trade. They could match the pieces to what the team needs.

Need a PF as the main piece? Take Love
Need young wing players? Take Webster
Need a PG in the deal? Take Kemba Walker
Need a big with real size? Take Milicic

And basically, you end up with trading Pau now for Chris Paul or Deron Williams in February, plus a piece or two to spare.

And if neither CP3 nor DWill is available, you've still got many good years of play out of Kevin Love, plus an injection of speed and youth at 2 or 3 other positions.


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