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Poll: Who should be the next coach of the Lakers?

 
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My vote is Rick Adelman, but I'll bet he takes a year off to recharge.

The results of this poll certainly fits into the "stats" category............Lies, Lies and more Lies


Why not include Jeff Van Gundy in your poll? Hiring Brian Shaw would be catastrophic for the Lakers.

Any coach that doesn't know what "practice season" means.

Jamie Sweet -- Great post on the Luke Walton thread.

I wonder about Bynum's practice comments. Didn't the team have injuries last year, so that practices were limited? Did not seem to matter then.

I worry that Drew may be a little too open with his comments. Personally I would rather he raise some of these issues in the locker room and not with the press. We don't need any drama between Drew and Kobe.

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Interesting...Walton sounds more like a coach every year. I can see Walton's view on practice, but intensity doesn't necessarily mean running, it could be raising the level of honest, constructive criticism as well.


I know I'll most likely get flayed alive for this...but I feel like Luke could've really helped stabilize the play of Barnes and Brown while taking the play making burden off of Steve Blake. Walton makes solid entry passes into the post making it easier on Gasol and Bynum and reducing the number of lofted passes that Brown hucks down low and he's a better defender than given credit for. Fast and quick? Nope, not in the slightest.

@Mary Chandler - Thanks for thinking I'm nice, don't recognize you from when I was a maniacal poster for the last couple of years, but I have to disagree on our competitive level. We were assuredly NOT competitive in Game 2 or 4 but we were in games 1 and 3 until the final buzzer. A call or two goes the other way, a ball bounces different, Kobe hits a wide open 3, we'd be sitting here chatting about tonight's game. Phil himself has claimed luck as much as anything else has been a foundation for his multiple success. By luck, I mean the way a ball bounces or the way a call is made.


The core of our team has competed for the NBA champi0nship three years in a row and won it twice. We lost this series in our minds, not in our bodies. The only one whose body is betraying him is Kobe and I say this with conviction based on his in game activity. Once he had to drive into the lane against Chandler and Haywood, he stopped driving to the rim. Kobe is afraid of nothing except losing. I can only guess at this, but I would say he felt he wouldn't get calls (true) or be able to get quality shots off over the Mavs tandem at the 5 spot. That points to a lack of physical ability because nobody here questions Kobe's competitive drive or mental fortitude.


Look, not only did the Lakers core team play in more NBA games than any other team in the league, Kobe and Pau played in the Olympics and world qualifiers two years ago, Lamar played in the world tourney last year and Gasol had to shoulder an extra load early in the season from which, I think it's safe to say, he never fully recovered from. Did his off the court drama effect his play? Probably, but he stuck with it and gave it his best. The results were not very desirable, but c'mon, man! Dude just helped us win it back to back! Throwing him under the bus now is very modern American of the Blog. Like people are disposable. Nobody clamored to trade Worthy, Coop or Magic when they lost to Houston, Detroit or the Bulls, right? Hell, to even bring it up on the Blog would invite scalding critiques of that person's sanity. Is Gasol not as iconic as at least Cooper or Byron Scott? Did he not do more than those guys to help us win it all...twice?


We need to get more focused on defense than we ever were in the playoffs and we need a bench that has some level of reliability. That's about it.
Sahsa Vujacic, anyone?

Posted by: rafancio | May 10, 2011 at 01:11 PM

hey rafmachio lol just kidding, listen i posted your reply on the Luke Walton exit interview thread, so go read on there for my reply, if we ever get off this oderation!!!

Someone from outside (Adelman 1st choice), no Shaw, no Scott, no Rambis.

That alone may be enough of a blow it up approach.
I wouldn't mind some trades but the Lakers are between a rock and a hard, hard place. I wouldn't be surprised if the team looks very similar next year except for some bench change since Theo and Smith, maybe Caracter are likely out.

New coaching will shake things up.

Yes, Stan Van Gundy is conspicuously absent from this list.

To me it doesn't matter who coaches this team as long as Triangle Offense is thrown in the trash can.

Unless you're a super-star type athlete the Triangle will never let you reach your full potential because players are required to be in certain areas of the court that doesn't always exploit your talent advantage.

Jamie Sweet,

I used to be pretty much against Sasha. Back in 2007, I didn't think he was NBA capable because every time he got into the game, he bricked shots and brought nothing but liability to the team. Then we traded Mo Evans for Ariza and it gave Sasha a chance to shine. Then he became The Machine.

Since his contract is up, I wouldn't be against getting him back on the cheap ($2 mill per).

When you say that no one panicked and tried to trade Coop or Worthy after the Houston loss... perhaps you're forgetting that Jerry Buss SHOOK HANDS on a deal sending Worthy to Dallas in 1986.

So the head boss man is capable of "blowing" the team up when they disappoint.

Back then, the GM had all the rank; now, Mitch is mostly a third in command behind Jerry & Jim.

hey guys how about Mike Cooper?
he looks like he could be a good coach, plus a laker no doubt!

he kinda looks like the Atlanta Hawks coach!

"I wonder about Bynum's practice comments. Didn't the team have injuries last year, so that practices were limited? Did not seem to matter then.

I worry that Drew may be a little too open with his comments. Personally I would rather he raise some of these issues in the locker room and not with the press. We don't need any drama between Drew and Kobe.

Posted by: Teamn | May 10, 2011 at 02:16 PM "

I think they were limited but as far as we knew it was 100% participation from the healthy players. When the news came out this year that Kobe wasn't
practicing with the team at all this year, it came as a surprise to everyone.
Even Kobe didn't seem like his normal playoff self in the end. He was cordial and talkative in interviews during the playoffs and he wasn't doing the underbite face. Weird year.

@LTLF,

How've you been?

The only decent "free agent" coming to LA in the Ko-me Bryant Era is Ron Arrest...a washed up "defensive player of the year" and former "thug".

The only reason kobe has any championship is because he plays on a world class organization who built a championship team DESPITE his a-hole-ness (is that a word?), but i digress...

I can assure you the lakers won't win another one with kobe "me me" as the #1.

Dwight #1, CP3 #2 and kobe #3 maybe...

I , personally, would like to see "The Last Stand" to "The Last Stand Extended" for two more years. Come back Phil.... redeem yourself!!!

Dear Phil,

If you come back for a reasonable salary for LA organization to bring you and at the same time getting Dwight Howard, CP3, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, or even Kevin Durant (2 to 3 years from now).... I will compensate you with stock options (ownership) of my internet company together with Kobe Bryant.

I can be reached by your lawyer(s), agents, managers, or the LA Lakers organization at marybchandler@gmail.com

I had a DREAM and it goes like this.......

Phil Jackson proposes marriage to Jeanie Buss then coaches the Knicks in 2012;

Brian Shaw accepts the coaching job of the Rockets for next season together with Hamblen;

Coach K changes his minds upon seeing the new roster and accepts Lakers coaching position;

Kobe Bryant became a matured individuals and tells Vanessa to STFU or will divorce u for good;

Enter the Superman http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/29195340?source=rss_blogs_NBA

via 4 team trade

Gasol/Lamar/Blake = Arenas/Howard

then turn around to another team

Arenas/Artest/Caracter/Barnes = Paul/Landry

Bynum = Kevin Love/Rubio's rights

Mitch Kupchak give way to Magic Johnson as the next GM

Mark Medina will implement the policies of KBros on the Lakers Blog....no hijacking of handle, no multiple handles allowed

Luke Walton becomes a Laker scout or PR man of the Lakers in return for negotiated opt out on his current contract

Derek Fisher becomes director of basketball scouts and similarly opts out of his contract.

Therefore, the only remaining players on current roster are as follows:

Kobe
Brown
Ebanks
Johnson

New Players

Paul
Howard
Landry
Love
D'League fillers...

Lakers should replace all the basketball hoodlums or would-be gangsters in the Lakerland. Protect the purple and gold brand or else there will be less patronage from season holder fans, club owners

Mary,

Stop this nonsense right now you are not making any sense.
Now go do your homework then get ready for bed.

This team needs a defensive minded coach they all respect... like a Jerry Sloan... or dare i say... Pat Riley again... That would be hilarious if they brought Riley back to coach this team and leave the team that is competing for titles seemingly earlier than most expected.

That would totally be the icing... Riley coaches Lakers back to Championship over the Heat.

If you search Amazon.com for 'The Last Stand', it will come with a book about Custer, the Battle of Little Bighorn and the total wipeout of the 7th Cavalry.

PJ certainly chose a prophetic title for his last coaching stint; that game 4 was a massacre.

are you happy now?
once again congrats to you sir! good guessing skills!
by LaLakers213
Of course I am sad I don't have anything exciting to watch for the next two months just like I'm used to for the last 3 years. Any Laker fan who got eliminated in an embarassing manner cannot be happy. As for my guessing skills I don't have that kind of skill. I just used my common sense (which I'm sure you lack)on my prediction. Any team who lose the first two games in their home court will surely not survive the grind. You can just look at the history of the NBA games played in order to predict this Mavs-Lakers series. I am an avid Lakers fan too but unlike you I am a practical fan. I can see the writing on the wall on this series.

ahahaha

LOL @ Posted by: Mary Chandlers mom | May 10, 2011 at 02:58 PM


Mary, mommy's asking you nicely to put downt he laptop and get to bed sweety lol gnite! ahaha

thats way to funny!! ama LOL all day long at this!!
thank you for the laughter!

I think all poster over 60 years of age should stop wasting their time in trivial pursuits and spend quality time with their grand kids. Please stop concocting posts from your couch potato stance, a brisk walk would benefit them more than dreaming of basketball.

why are there 2 comment sections for this vote? Kwame Brown is clearly the right choice for the Lakers.

Adelman would be 2nd, Van Gundy 3rd.

Rick Adelman----------- Nuff said

Of course I am sad I don't have anything exciting to watch for the next two months just like I'm used to for the last 3 years. Any Laker fan who got eliminated in an embarassing manner cannot be happy. As for my guessing skills I don't have that kind of skill. I just used my common sense (which I'm sure you lack)on my prediction. Any team who lose the first two games in their home court will surely not survive the grind. You can just look at the history of the NBA games played in order to predict this Mavs-Lakers series. I am an avid Lakers fan too but unlike you I am a practical fan. I can see the writing on the wall on this series.

Posted by: rafancio | May 10, 2011 at 03:13 PM


ahhhh my friend thats where your sadly mistaking, your common sense had nothing to do with this series, and niether did the NBA history, history is meant to be re-written. you can not justify your "common sense" it has nothing to do with this conversation! what if the Lakers came back and eventually won the series? would you have said that also would be a common sense or a guess? well my predicition exactly, it is only a guess, there is no such thing as common sense in Sports, just because you know stuff dosnt make you the all time master of the sport! What happend to the San Antonio series, everyone said man "its common sense" to bet on San Antonio advancing against memphis, well those people lost money, and SAS got out by the 8th seed, so is that still common sense? or is that just a high percentage guess? EXACTLY! so on the contrary my friend, you were guessing all along, yes in NBA history blax blax blax... dosnt really matter, you make history my friend, you dont let it make you! And as far as Im concerned your not that true of a lakers fan, Lakers fan is always suppose to cheer for his/her team, always root for them at the time of loss, come cheering in time of distress, and thats what some of us TRUE fans did, instead of talking crap and saying seasons done "even though" you might call it done since they lost 2, we still belived that our Lakers can carry us all the way to the Finals, sadly we went down with the ship as soon as it sunk, but non the less im proud to die with my team, rather than watch them die! so my friend, even tho i give you all the credit in the world, start beliving sometimes and dont get cought up in all the Stats, because the box score wont always tell you what you missed! So your "common sense" is more of a guess, because like i said you dont know the future and you wont ever know, thats why its funner!

so dont come at me like your some kind of basketball god, this series would have gone both ways, i swear i would probably come and punch you in the face if lakers came back and took them in 7 Games!! lol just kidding but yeah to that level. Would you have told me I have common sense if Lakers were to win this series against the Mavs down 2-0? lets say Lakers came back and took the series, would you gave me props and said that i was right for beliving in my team? and i had good common sense? or would you say i had a very good guess? see my friend thats where your "common sense" goes flying out the windown...

dont look into the past too much, you might get in trouble!
none the less- thank you for a good conversation!
my hats off to you mr "common sense" lol

Out of all those coaches mentioned, not one of them fits the Lakers profile.
You have to be crazy or delusional to even think of Sloan, Brown, Adelman, Krzyzewski, and Rivers.
Rambis, Cooper, and Shaw, Ok so they were former players, but not ready for prime time. The only one there is Byron Scott, but I believe he's under contract.

The most probable will be Shaw, but he'll have a hard time controlling Kobe, even Jackson couldn't or wouldn't at the end. I know that most fans here would never be satisfied with anything less than a ring. How many years would it take Shaw to win one, if he ever?

MM,

Who are these handles?

Mr. Reindeer, Codger, Mary Chandlers Mom, Stucktrader = Ouchhhh. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the bloggers all the time. I quote.

MM: Will u sacrifice ur journalistic integrity for few more hits? How far will u go in letting termites populate your blog? There has been a flight of quality bloggers and there will be more if you let these termites rule your blog.

My heart says...

BRIAN SHAW, who can forget that lovely 3-point shot in the final seconds of the 3rd quarter in game 7 against Portland in the Western Conference Finals in 2000, cutting the Blazers lead from 16 to 13, and the rest is history. All of us loyal Laker fans thank you Brian deeply from the bottom of our hearts for your greatness on the court, and for the years of dilligent service as PJ's assistant. You are a class act all the way!

However, I'm conflicted considering the HUGE shoes of Phil Jackson, a pair better suited for a veteran, established coach, which causes

my head to say... RICK ADLEMAN.


Heart=Shaw
Head=Adleman

"There has been a flight of quality bloggers and there will be more if you let these termites rule your blog.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 10, 2011 at 03:43 PM "

I think more of them left because the Lakers lost :/

oh my god, Edwin... NEW POSTERS!!! the horror!!! Don't talk to them!!!

exactly why I stopped posting here... your friend, Kwaminus Brownicas, Keeper of the Stone Hands, Protector of the Sublime Calves...

Rick Adelman has never won a title, at least Brian Shaw!!

Out with the old people and in with the new blood!!

2nd choice Byron Scott!!

Sick and tired of the Triangle already! Just say NO to Brian Shaw...

For an idea of what might happen if Shaw becomes the coach and continues the Triangle just look at Kurt Rambis and his 17-65 record. For that matter say NO to Kurt Rambis as well since it looks like he may lose his job soon.

Jeff Van Gundy would be the perfect choice for the Lakers but I'm ok with pretty much any big-name big-time coach with plenty of experiences and accomplishments.

Brian Shaw is a title winner both as a player and as an assistant coach. Please no room for old over the hill coaches, we need young blood!!

Edwin,


Put down the pipe, bro. Coach Mike Krzyzewski is a coward, we don't want cowards coaching this team. Coach K was offered the greatest coaching job in organized sports back in 2005 and he turned it down, because he was more "comfortable" at Duke!


Dude, you've already won all there is to win at the college level, why not try your hand at the professional level and see how you can do!!! That was gutless! He didn't have the onions to take the Laker job, he was happy to stay at his cushy college gig, make his money and win college titles!


We need someone with balls!


Think about it, how can anyone turn down the Laker Job? Coach K had won how many titles in college? A guy with balls would've said to himself, "Mike, you've proven yourself as this level, over and over and over again, it's time you prove your metal at the next level!"


Coach K never had that kind of a heart-to-heart with himself because he has no guts, no balls, no courage, and as such, we don't want his gutless ilk anywhere aroung Lakerdom.


Do you hear?


BALLS AND BRAINS, we need someone with both!!!

Jeff Van Gundy is my choice (i like Chicago Bulls coach, but it was too late), Lakers will defend P&R better, and will rank top 3, 5 in defense.

I like Aldeman too, but his team doesn't play defense, and if he wants to run up-down offense, you should think about injury too. Jerr Sloan is 68 years old.

Jeff Van Gundy

Ludwig,

He declined in 2004, Coach K "might" accept this time. Did u vote for Brian Shaw? He is the last guy I will choose? Believe me if they go Shaw, it is a repetition of Randy Pfund when Riles moved to Knicks in the 80's . Shaw does not have the persona to impose discipline with his high profiled players, he could not even handle Sasha. I would even agree with Sloan or Adelman than Shaw. We need experience and a Coach who would play high stakes in choosing the Laker coach. This is high pressured top heavy team where the fans, media and their legends are evaluating ur every move as a Coach.

Edwin,


This is what I wrote earlier, "I'm conflicted considering the HUGE shoes of Phil Jackson, a pair better suited for a veteran, established coach, which causes

my head to say... RICK ADLEMAN."


I want Adleman, not Shaw. I agree with you, this is not a franchise that can take a chance at this point, with this team as presently constituted, on a newbie coach. Adleman is the guy, not Sloan, not Rambis, not Scott.


It's Adleman, who's done a great job everywhere he's been, with the possible exception of Golden State, but who can blame him there?

The only person i feel that has the qualifications for LA coach is (MJ)Majic johnson.He CAN HAVE THEM READY BY NEXT YEAR.I also would like to see Bynum and Odum gone and yes Dwight Howard would make LA have the ultimate threesome and i said ultimate and not awesome.At any rate LA WILL BE ALRIGHT.SOON AND VERY SOON.

Jeannie Buss.
.
She knows it all.
.
Just ask her.

Anybody EXCEPT Brian Shaw. We need to jettison the Triangle too.

I am surprised by the poll number, I understand the love for Byron Scott but why is Rick Adelman behind him - Byron Scott has been one of the most polarizing coaches in history, both literally and statistically when players reportedly started coupes to get him out..

Brian Shaw would be a player's coach but he would command a lot of respect obviously from Kobe and he is regarded highly within the organization, and he is able to adapt his styles he is not loyal to any one style of play. Obviously if you had Dwight Howard who can be heady- you would want Brian to prove himself as a commander, so more probably a Rick Adelman with more seniority can get to his head instead of the Master of Panic Van Gundy. At this point I would even take Doc Rivers.

MM: Will u sacrifice ur journalistic integrity for few more hits? How far will u go in letting termites populate your blog? There has been a flight of quality bloggers and there will be more if you let these termites rule your blog.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 10, 2011 at 03:43 PM
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Free flowing chatter/banter and open opinion is better suited for blogs not paper-columns though.. journalistic integrity? The opinions of the posters are theirs- as of the author/manager of the blog.. we chose what posts to agree with or disagree with to respond to and to ignore we can parent ourselves as well. While I understand any open forum has its sets of writen and unwriten rules that we all heed to, it is not the blogger's responsibility to parent the blogs to see whether our feelings are hurt. I respond and respect everyone's opinions as long as they are constructive and deal with the topic of a post-

PF

Has anyone stopped and considered the reason why Kobe and others are endorsing Brian Shaw?

Lets say you are working for a company and your CEO is being replaced. Would you prefer the guy you've worked with who hasn't had total authority, one who you never felt threatened by, a person whom you occasionally have walked over, or feel you can manipulate.....

OR

Do you want a guy who's going to change the world you're use to, demand more work, demand better quality work, reprimand you when you fail to meet expections, and expect this higher work ethic every day?


I'd take my pal Joe, he's been with the company for a long and deserves this chance even though he's never once held such a position in the life, besides I now how to manipulate this guy.

I think Rick Adelman should be the next Laker's coach, Brian Shaw is a nice name to throw out their, but he has never been a Head coach on any level. Rick Adelman was good with the Blazers & Kings. Befored he came to the Kings can you name me any of the other coaches they had? 1 thing Rick will demand is respect. He's already coached Ron when he was in Sacramento so that shouldn't be a problem. And Jeff Van Gundy? Please let that i need rogaine fool stay where's he at. He did ok with the Knicks, What did he do with the Rockets? You have Yao Ming & Tracy McGrady at the time & u couldn't get past the 1st round? That's why the Rockets fired his sorry behind.

Yeah, I'd take a guy who's been my backup when I was 20. I'm sure Shaw is well-liked, but I'm not sure how Kobe views the whole Lakers-in-crisis situation.
Does Kobe want to win again or does he want to win on his own terms as always? Last time around, Kobe needed to prove he can win without Shaq and Phil was the best bet to accomplish that as a coach. Now, Kobe's won two rings without Shaq. What does he have to prove?
Knowing Kobe's whims when it comes to being success-oriented (quitting on his team when he felt underappreciated and such), I'm not sure how bad Kobe wants to have another run at the title unless it's on his own terms, meaning, he picks the coach and he picks the way the team is or is not rebuilt.
How true are the rumors about Pau and Kobe? Bynum's behavior showed to me that he did not care at that particular moment whether he will be a Laker next season, or he had the knowledge that he won't be. Fisher is as good as a deep bench option, at best. We are talking three starters here who may not be with the team next season, plus the coach. Add Dwight Howard to the mix, too. That would mean overhaul, wouldn't it?

The Lakers do not need an assistant Coach, becoming a head Coach. That's not a great formula for immediate transition away from the Jackson era or the offense he ran. This offense require to much responsibility of the best player on the court to bail them out if others do not perform, especially if you do not have great outside shooters. Remember Kerr, Hodges, Paxon, PJ all great outside shooters back in the Bulls day. The Lakers never had that so, too often the ball would end back in Kobes hands, he's not that guy anymore, so let's change this thing now, while he is still capable of performing at a high level, even though not as high as before. In addition, the offense was to hard for players to pick up. Everyone player that has left did not like the offense, not that it has not worked for Phil, but I do not see others with the patience or demand like him to navigate the egos when somethings doesn't work.

Van Gundy would be a great choice, but am certain Buss doesn't like the "D" first mindset of Gundy. NO College Coach please.

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