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Lakers discuss 96-94 Game 1 loss to Dallas Mavericks

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson

Lakers forward Pau Gasol

Lakers guard Shannon Brown

--Mark Medina

 
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Like i said. Dallas has the deeper bench.

Dallas bench. 40 pts.

Lakers bench 25 pts. 15 of the points were scored by Lamar.

Mavs shot 45% from 3pt range vs 26% for Lakers -- not going to get it done. Given the Mavs don't have a dominant low post game and that the Lakers are pretty good at 3pt defense, this surprises me. A couple of stops on these and the Lakers win.

I remember when the Lakers signed like four players this off season to address the problem we had with our bench last year..Looks like we signed four "Claude Rains"..

Tough one to swallow last night. But give the Mavs credit for chipping away and pulling it out with solid defense in the 4th holding the Lakers to 16pts.

Some want to blame the refs…sorry I can’t buy that. Yep they missed a couple of calls, but they did a decent job overall and we all know you have to control your own destiny and not leave it up to the refs. (The worst non-call to me was Chandler blatant foul on Pau’s jumper with the Lakers up 3 with 1:50 left. Chandler was nowhere near the ball and hit all elbow and arm.)

Some want to blame Kobe…yada, yada, yada. Some want to blame Phil…yep should’ve had Odom on Dirk on that last possession. Other than that Phil coached the way he has in the back2back. Some want to blame Pau…yes that was a stupid foul. Some want to blame the bench…agreed that the Killer B’s have to play better.

But the biggest culprit was the overall team defense. The Mavs shot 57% in the 2nd half. You’re not going to win many games like that. I look for the Lakers will tighten up the defense in game 2 and tie it up. But this series and the rest of the playoffs are not for the faint of heart. Buckle up folks and expect some turbulence.

I totally agree with Gary and other Lakes fans asking how bad a job Mitch Kupchack has done recently, wait another year or two when we are even older, we gave away so many first round picks, there will be nothing left in a couple of years. And Tony Romo is gorgeous, but that Eli Manning with his tight bod, and mix of Gomer and Goober Pile really makes me all wet.

Lakers 0, Mavs 0, Refs 1

First to 4 wins.

MM,

Thanks for the vid on Phil. Good stuff.

GM1 was lost by Kobe, Pau and Coach PJ. Anyone who watched the game knows what I am talking about. Kobe's last minute tactics and Paul with soft hands not be able to catch the ball and PJ's very bad decision on what players to bring into the game at the last few seconds. Once again Kobe lost the game. simple as that.

Phil Jackson ... finish, end of story.

Where's Adam Morrison when you need him? That dude was our lucky charm!

DBDH!

This was a disappointing loss. The Lakers had this game and got sloppy in the 4th Q.

This year's championship video is going to be awesome! Such drama! Intensity! Tenacity! Frustration! Vindication! I can't wait for it. Amazon Wish List, NOW!

DBDH!

What an incredible year for the NBA playoffs. Young guns Chicago and OKC. Memphis. Atlanta. Boston vs. Miami. Lakers vs. Mavs. This is fun to watch.


Still a painful loss, but Dallas is a good team that hung tough. The Lakers got sloppy in the second half of the third and let them back in. But Dallas plays tough D, and if you take bad shots or turn it over they will run and gun you into a big run. The Lakers have to be more disciplined on offense to beat Dallas.


Great shooters are never out of a game.


Kid held Kobe on that second to last posession, but Dallas earned this win,

So I haven't checked the blog since last night - is it overrun with Dallas trolls yet?

Wow!!!! We are watching literally the unraveling of Phil Jackson............the "dumbed" down media just sits there and ask some of the dumbest basketball questions I've ever heard.

Kobe shot 48% from the field and 44.4% from the 3-pt line and amazingly there is such a "blame Kobe for everything groupthink" mentality..........there are whispers of "Kobe shot too much".............Idiots..........Did you watch the game? ..........or did you just look at the stat sheet?

One of the biggest problems with the Lakers is on full display in the above video of Phil Jackson.............ARROGANCE!!

Phil Jackson has an inability to accept responsibility for his actions......There were soooo many bad coaching decisions last night that reluctantly even TNT's Kenny Smith had to say something about it.

Was it Phil Jackson's intent to play Gasol on Dirk?????

Why was Andrew Bynum in the game? If somehow Gasol didn't foul Dirk we would have had Andrew Bynum guarding Jason Kidd..................Is that what Phil wanted?

Also coming out of the timeout with a little over a minute to go........instead of running a play through Kobe, Phil runs a set for Gasol in the post where he clearly didn't have an advantage against Tyson Chandler.............Gasol shoots an airball

Kobe never touched the ball in that situation.........a point that Steve Kerr brought up on the telecast.


Why did Phil leave Kobe on the bench so long to start the 4th quarter???????????

If Kobe rested the entire season.............shouldn't he play more minutes now? Otherwise what was the real intention of reducing Kobe's minutes during the regular season?

We didn't lose the game in the third quarter as Phil suggested because we went into the 4th quarter with a 7 pt lead. The game and momentum was lost by not calling a timout a getting Kobe back in that game earlier in the 4th quarter.

I'm tired of beating a dead horse because I've studied Phil Jackson and his decisions and I'm convinced that the Lakers have to win despite this guy and not because of him.

What is the gameplan for this series?? All you hear from the coaching staff and repeated by this "dumbed" down media is "The Lakers advantage is their bigs"................oh really?

The Lakers advantage is Kobe Bryant and it is especially advantageous in this series because Dallas has nobody to check Kobe.

If Phil was a real coach he would design more off the ball sets for Kobe using screens to cause the Dallas defense to react and forcing them to make decisions.............this ironically would free up the bigs and get them the ball on the move where they can do something with it instead of force feeding Gasol and Bynum as if the 2 were superstars.

Hear this..............BYNUM AND GASOL CAN NOT CARRY THIS TEAM OFFENSIVELY! IF THEY COULD THEY WOULD BE SUPERSTARS..........THEY ARE ROLE PLAYERS.

KOBE IS THE SUPERSTAR.................It is increasingly obvious that these players do not understand their respective roles and that is a direct result of Phil Jackson not understanding HIS role..............especially as it relates to Kobe Bryant.

Phil's ego tells him "systems" win ..................but Phil doesn't realize or refuses to accept the fact that at this level..............TALENT wins championships.

Phil believes and has convinced this media that "equal shot distribution" is a premium..............even when there is not "equal talent"................Does anybody in their right mind want Luke Walton shooting as much as Kobe? No..................Why not?

What occurs with Phil is close to insanity because he repeats the same mistakes...........works his way into desperate states............and this calls out for Kobe to save him.............when he should have just gone to Kobe in the first place.

Phil doesn't seem to understand momentum or he doesn't have a "feel" for the pulse of a game and what MUST be done to maintain leads.

Just the other day in the close out game against the Hornets in game 6............Phil wanted to take Kobe out toward the end of that third quarter...........this would have been a huge mistake and the results probably would have been similar to the momentum lost last night.............fortunately for the Lakers Kobe refused to come out and we ended that quarter on a roll.

Remember bloggers.......................Phil Jackson - MJ and Kobe = Kurt Rambis

Hahaha haters and trolls are back again after a tough loss last night even some doubters from lakers fans hmmm.Anyway Lakers will destroy the mavs in -5-6.Bigs needs to step up and play tough defense and always gave hard playoffs foul...

agree with pfunk Kobe should have come in earlier. Although I think they should have put Lamar in on the last possession that would have given them another option and a decoy as well. Check out Kobe Bryant's greatest games here kobegames.blogspot.com

>>>I remember when the Lakers signed like four players this off season to
>>>address the problem we had with our bench last year..Looks like we signed
>>>four "Claude Rains"..

Yep. Based on what we've seen so far,

Farmar+Sasha+Luke > Blake+Brown+Barnes

I still think the killer B's can come up with enough to help the team win a championship, but it doesn't make it easy when Artest shoots 1 for 8, Bynum only gets 5 rebounds and 8 points (not so beastly), and they let the opposing team shoot 49%.

Kobe and Pau and Lamar were almost able to carry the Lakers to a win in that game, despite weak play by Drew, Artest, and the Killer B's. Hopefully, they'll step it up in the rest of the series and hold Dallas to a more manageable shooting percentage.

>>>Phil Jackson ... finish, end of story.


WOW! Are you predicting that he'll retire?!??!?!

How BOLD of you!!!

I'd NEVER imagine that would happen.

Well – that completely sucked. And to top it off, I get a BOO-YAAAAH email – first thing this morning - from my boss’s kid who’s a Mav’s fan. I told him to act like he’s been there and I’d see him Game 2. Sheesh.

That completely sucked. Poor defensive effort in the 2nd half seemed to be the leading cause, but come on guys – you gotta hit those wide open shots.

This team gives me a headache. And cramps. Seriously. Does anyone have a spare defibrillator? I could use one of those too.

Let’s go get Game 2. Come on Lakers!! I’ve already had enough of these Cubanite fools.

There is plenty of room in the Lakers in 7 buss for those of you that don't realize that this Dallas team was built to match up with the Lakers and they are very good.

I blame one person for this loss: PHIL JACKSON! He's managing this team as if it's the regular season. Someone needs to remind him this team is the same team that gives up big leads all season long. It's a much more fragile team. Knowing how this team is, how do you let a lead of 16 points dwindle to 3 points before you call a timeout? This is a playoff game, you don't let your team try to figure it out on their own. Your their coach, isn't that your job? If they haven't figured it out all season, why do you think they are going to figure it out in a playoff game when the pressure is that much greater. A timeout is so beneficial. It lets your team regroup and refocus, and it can stop the other team's momentum, just by blowing the whistle! I know he has two bad hips, so it's difficult for him to stand up, but can't you call a timeout while your sitting.

Also, all season long he's been resting his starters until the 6 min mark in the 4th quarter. Really? Thank goodness Carlisle called the timeout for us at the 6:43 mark to stop the game or he would have kept the bench in longer. This is game 1, second round. Would it have killed them if he brought the startes in 2 mins earlier? Plus they get the next day off. Does it say on his contract that he gets bonuses based on how many timeouts he saves during a game or how many timeouts he has over the other coach? Please treat this as a playoff game and show more urgency.

I know there were some players that did not perform well last night, but the team gave him a 16 point lead. At that time, he needs to manage the game better. He looked surprised after the game at the result but this one is on his shoulders.

Why is no one calling him out? Mark Medina, can you please call him out? I know he has 11 rings but if we are calling out Pau for being soft and Kobe for shooting too much, can't we call him out for this? The media is killing the team saying they are an arrogant team and not taking their opponents seriously, but this team is a reflection of their coach, ARROGANT! He accuses Kobe for missing shots to keep the game close yet he sits there on his high chair, and watches his team give up leads after leads and does nothing. Thank you Phil for all you have done, please don't mess it up this last time like you did against Detroit. Please coach as if this is your last year and as if this is the playoffs.

Good game kobe

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Pfunk,

Agreed!

You never hear PJ accept any blame for a loss?

I still don't understand in the 4th Q, the most important Q, you aren't playing your best players, most, if not all the 4th Q!!! Kobe was on fire, so, gee, let's set him down and see if we can cool him off!

I would like to hear phil just say "OK guys this ones on ME!".. Just one time.. Just one time before he retires...

And pls stop saying "THEY" after losses and "WE" after wins.

Phil probably starting to have symptoms of dementia already.I think after this he needs to retire...

@hobbit... I missed it.. What did kenny say about the rotations?

@LTLF.. Good point.. Besides from kobe overall lakers played very bad and dallas very good and lakers still had control of much of the game until they gave it away final minute. We're talkin giftwrapped and hand delivering the game away.. All things considered very good sign I suppose

LTLF

The PSP meant that Phil gotta take the blame for the losses sometimes; nothing to do with retiring or not ... Pfunk + 1 million

THanks
PSP Intern

Man this sucks, ARTEST should have been draining 3 pointer but his 1 for 8... jeez we need him to score much much more

Mark Medina, you are a genius, with prediction Lakers lost game 1 to Mavs, i couldn't believe it.

how about Artest guarding Dirk? will that play out well? i sure would want to see that matchup..

Reasons for the loss:

1. Dallas played great.

2. Artest played like crap on offense.

3. Many times we got lazy and instead of patiently running the offense we jacked up shots to try to put a dagger in the Mavs so they'd give up. Note to team: THAT NEVER FRICKEN WORKS!!!! NEVER HAS!!!! NEVER WILL!!!! QUIT IT!!!!

4. We got a large lead and stopped playing defense.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

As Phil stated in 3rd qtr, Laker stopped playing defense and on offense Kobe jacking up shots after shots..

pfunk36,

I think what drives me crazy about the offense is that going inside should not be just about Bynum, Gasol, and Odom. There needs to be a concerted effort to attack the paint by everyone and to do so in better ways. Phil has to design different sets so that Kobe, Artest, Fisher, Brown, Blake, etc can drive to the basket and make things happen.

This team misses that second dynamic cutting option. Kobe cannot do it all by himself and cannot simply do it from isos on the wing.

Should be interesting to see how the series progresses. I think you can point to adjustments made during the Hornets series on both offense and defense, so let's see if Phil can do that now.

Posted by: Borcal from S valley | May 03, 2011 at 10:07 AM

correction a typo it is Norcal and not Borcal

this was a majorly heartbreaking loss - I can't stand when we take possessions off & then are surprised that we lose the ballgame

Mmmm Chicken Littles are good..................

I'm putting this one on Phil for a few reasons....

Something told me I wanted to take the Hawks, but I just couldn't. After watching the matchups, I am going to take the Hawks in 6. Haven't been impressed with the Bulls just like Spurs; just a good practice season squad.

Don't worry be happy, Lakers in 6

Reasons for the loss:

1. Dallas played great.

2. Artest played like crap on offense.

3. Many times we got lazy and instead of patiently running the offense we jacked up shots to try to put a dagger in the Mavs so they'd give up. Note to team: THAT NEVER FRICKEN WORKS!!!! NEVER HAS!!!! NEVER WILL!!!! QUIT IT!!!!

4. We got a large lead and stopped playing defense.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | May 03, 2011 at 10:04 AM
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So you're giving Phil Jackson a pass on this L?

So much for the much hyped dirk vs pau matchup..

And yes another BIG reason for the loss..

Dirk > Pau..

Pau looked more comfortable not getting roughed up inside but by his own standards below average performance and not assertive enough and outplayed by dirk

Another reason simmons has pau out of top 100 of all time and dirk top 50.. Yes I know their book is still being written but so far these playoffs dirk jumps up 10 spots and pau goes down 25 spots!

I'm done venting.. Need to find another outlet.. Maybe hit the gym and find me a punching bag! Or maybe some noncontact yoga or step arobics so I can be like pau.

See u after game 2!


Odom had Reality TV show, Kobe has comedy show, when you driving to the basket, you has to score, you don't change your mind when you are up in the air with less than 2 min in the game. The way he plays like 23 years old NBA player.
Before game 5 against NO, Bynum said:" We make difficult things to ourself in the whole season". You tried to win games in regular season to get HCA, and now you blew it.


Re-Insert Luke Walton in the 2nd unit for better ball movement and for the mere fact that he would look to getting the ball to Andrew. Moreover, we are getting absolutely nothing from Matt Barnes off the bench.

Our secound unit is the reason we lost yesterday. Far too many jump shots and no ball movement. very poor execution from them.

Make Lamar Odom guard Dirk. its pretty clear he does a better job than Pau.

Make Lamar start in this series and get Bynum to come off the bench advantages, Bynum, will dorminate and lamar would hold his ground against Dirk.

Relax guys, its not the end of the world. We will win the next game and get 1 back in Dallas. As clearly seen yesterday, we are the better team. We just failed to execute in the last few minutes of the 4th quater. It was a tough loss and it happens once in a while in this game.

>>>how bad a job Mitch Kupchack has done recently, wait another year or two
>>>when we are even older, we gave away so many first round picks, there will
>>>be nothing left in a couple of years.


blah blah blah.

And in the mean time, the Lakers will have 3 rings to show for it, while some of those FABULOUS drafting/free agent acquiring teams will have none.

1. You don't get good draft picks for free. You either get them by LOSING (Clippers, Washington, etc) or by trading away quality players (e.g. Denver trading Melo). Thus, the Lakers aren't going to get any stars out of the draft while they're on a championship streak. The last time they were a sucky losing team, they got Bynum.

2. If you've got a team that gets to the finals consistently, it doesn't make sense to trade them off for younger guys just to get younger. While you may get talent that will last longer, you're trading guys that are BATTLE TESTED. Sure, maybe they could have gotten some young gun[s] by giving up Bynum or Odom, but that would make them LESS LIKELY to win a championship NOW. RIGHT NOW. THIS SEASON. Not "in a couple of years"... NOW.

3. Teams that think more about "in a couple of years" than NOW, will never win a championship. Winning titles in the NBA isn't about acquiring young assets. That helps during a rebuilding phase, but not for this season.

Let me give you an example. Let's say Mitch could have traded Bynum and Odom for Chris Paul, Trevor Ariza, and Emeka Okafor at the trade deadline. Some people here would have jumped for joy. (WOO HOO! GOT BACK TREVOR AND ONE OF THE BEST POINT GUARDS IN THE LEAGUE!). And then when the Lakers lost in the playoffs this year because they didn't have Bynum and Odom, and Okafor didn't really fill their shoes, you'd still say, "It's okay - we're better for the future". So what happens if Chris Paul's knees goes bad next year and he turns into a ghost, like Brandon Roy this season? Now not only do you not have Odom and Bynum, but your star point guard becomes a shadow of what he was and you never make it back to the finals.

Yes, it's possible Paul would stay healthy and help the team for years to come... but you don't know that for a fact. What you DO KNOW for a fact is that the current core of players, which includes Odom and Bynum made it to the finals the last 3 years running. So in that situation, you ALWAYS bet on the current winners (at least until they stop winning).


4. Winning RIGHT NOW means getting and keeping a core set of players, and Mitch did that. Kobe/Pau/Bynum/Odom/Artest/Fisher is one of the best core sets of players in the league. Sure, Miami might edge them on best 1-2 Heat players versus best 1-2 Laker players, but on 1-6, the Lakers are far ahead (possibly even on 1-3). And Dallas might edge them on 1-10, but on 1-6, the Lakers are far ahead. And on fighting through adversity to win, the Lakers have it in spades over every team in the league except Boston.

You should be thanking Mitch (and Phil and Kobe and Fish and even Luke) for 3 straight runs to the finals and 2 championships. Very few teams in the league have seen that much success in their ENTIRE HISTORY. If Mitch had built this team in Utah or Minnesota, he'd be a freaking god in that state. In LA, he gets 2 rings in 3 years (probably 3 rings in 4 years) and he gets a lot of whiny ass beyotches crying that he's doing a lousy job.

GET A DOSE OF REALITY.

All the media jumping on the Dallas bandwagon. Werent the Lakers up 16 points thanks to the players, before the Phil Jackson choke job?
The Lakers will be up 2-1 in no time.

>>>Remember bloggers.......................Phil Jackson - MJ and Kobe = Kurt Rambis

In 1994, Phil made it to the Eastern Conference semi-finals and took New York to 7 games... without Michael Jordan.

Remind me again, when did Kurt Rambis ever make the playoffs, let alone win a series?

Killer B's? More like the Bumble B's. They have been pathetic for a long time and undeserving of their nick name. Sure they had a little spark at the beginning of the season, but that was a LONG, LONG time ago.

Mavs not a great team. Mavs play a crappy playing lakers team and they should win. Cleveland beat the lakers. If the Mavs play bad they will lose as well, portland rallied to win and Mavs lost a 20 something point lead i nthe third. Both teams playing solid, I'd have to say lakers have an edge from a combination of things. also barnes and brown can score 7-10 points if they play well odom can score at least hit 14-19 points. i dont agree with Mavs having a deeper bench in terms of scoring. but maybe a more consistent scoring bench?

Also one other thing i noticed about the Dallas team is we score easily against this team. Their defence is not as great as what people are saying. Remember, they gave up i think, 23 points lead against portland in the 1st round. Early leads are always too dangerous and very overated. This is the NBA, good teams can always get back. For the true laker fans, relax and enjoy all the highs and lows of the playoffs. Who said it was going to be easy. This is a 7 game series and thats why we fought for the home court advantage. Trust me, thsese veterans will beat these guys at least once in Dallas.

There is also absolutely to answer for Kobe Bryant. Dallas defence will be exposed in the next game. Its a tough loss guys but we will bounce back from it as we usually do.

>>>The PSP meant that Phil gotta take the blame for the losses sometimes;
>>>nothing to do with retiring or not ... Pfunk + 1 million

Yep. Maybe he left the bench in for a bit too long, letting the starters cool off. So he gets a portion of the blame.

But you might also consider placing some blame on the Killer B's, Bynum, and Odom, who shot a collective 3 for 11 during that stretch (with Odom and Brown bricking the most). Phil wasn't bricking shots for them. They did that themselves.

And you might also consider that THE LAKERS STILL LED when Kobe and Pau came back in the game with 6:37 left. Granted, the 7 point lead was down to 3, but given a 3 point lead with 6:37 to play, you'd think the champs could have held the lead to win.

But the starters shot as poorly as the bench for the rest of the game, giving up the lead.

You can't blame Phil for handing his BACK-TO-BACK CHAMPION starters a 3 point lead with 6 minutes to play. It's disingenuous to place the blame on Phil for this loss. If Dallas had turned the Lakers' 7 point lead into a 7 point lead by Dallas, that would be one thing. But Phil rested his stars as long as he felt comfortable and put them back in in a good position to win the game, and they didn't get it done.

>>>Re-Insert Luke Walton in the 2nd unit for better ball movement and for the
>>>mere fact that he would look to getting the ball to Andrew. Moreover, we are
>>>getting absolutely nothing from Matt Barnes off the bench.

Much as pfunk will scream, that's not a bad suggestion. Barnes hasn't been quite the same since coming back from his injury. And Luke gets Bynum more oops than any of the killer B's.

If Barnes was playing lock down defense, it would be one thing. But since he's not, getting Luke to kick-start the bench mob offense could tip the scales back in the Lakers' favor.

WHY ONLY THE SECOND UNIT HAS TO DUMP THE BALL INSIDE" What about Kobe, is he excluded from it? Is Kobe not part of the team? Frustrating to see a ballgame in control slip away because of trigger happy cowboy! Team sport, team spirit, team defense, team offense is the mantra for 3peat!

Yup Kobe is going to do what he does best, shoot the ball to his hearts content!!

Bryant repeatedly said it wasn't his fault, pointing instead to the Lakers' reserves.

"It had nothing to do with me," he said. "I'm going to do what I do. I think the second unit, we've got to make a conscious effort to get the ball in to Pau and get the ball in to Andrew."

"I like to see everybody involved in the game," Jackson said. "I've tried to preach as a basketball coach, even though we have a guy that dominates the ball in Kobe, basketball is not a one on one game — it's a team game."

-Dude's and Dudettes...As I've stated all along the Heat will be their, not so sure about the Lake Show.

>>>Werent the Lakers up 16 points thanks to the players, before the Phil
>>>Jackson choke job?

I'm really not getting this blame it on Phil message.

The same starters that got the lead to 16 points LOST most of that lead. In fact, they lost most of it right after they got it. They stole the ball 3 straight times to start the 3rd and built it up to 16. And then they started turning the ball over and not running back on defense, which sent Dallas on a 16-4 run with THE EXACT SAME PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR.

So tell me you gurus of basketball, what exactly did PHIL do that turned the monster team that got the 16 point lead into a turrible team that lost 13 points of that lead in the next 4 minutes. Same Laker players... same Dallas players. What did you expect Phil to do?

>>>The Lakers will be up 2-1 in no time.

That part I agree with.

Laker fan-

Used all the "Cuban" handles I could think of!!

Dont feel bad, we are down 1-0 as well!! Sucks to be the only road team without a win but have a feeling we will be 1-1 after today!!

>>>Re-Insert Luke Walton in the 2nd unit for better ball movement and for the
>>>mere fact that he would look to getting the ball to Andrew. Moreover, we are
>>>getting absolutely nothing from Matt Barnes off the bench.

Much as pfunk will scream, that's not a bad suggestion. Barnes hasn't been quite the same since coming back from his injury. And Luke gets Bynum more oops than any of the killer B's.

If Barnes was playing lock down defense, it would be one thing. But since he's not, getting Luke to kick-start the bench mob offense could tip the scales back in the Lakers' favor.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 03, 2011 at 10:49 AM

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I have to say I agree with this. Luke does have good ball movement...he can set up Shannon so he does not feel inclined to dribble a lot and is in his spot ready to shoot. Also, Luke will get the ball to Bynum, more than a lot of people on this team. Coupled with the fact that Matt Barnes has not given anything at all...offensive or lockdown defensive since his injury and I really do not see if coming back. I know people cringe at playing Luke...however, Luke has been here before (playoffs) and I believe would make the most out of his situation.

Jon K,

>>>Reasons for the loss:
>>>
>>>1. Dallas played great.

50% shooting? 40 points by the bench? held the Lakers to 42% - check

>>>2. Artest played like crap on offense.

1-for-8, after playing great against New Orleans? - check

>>>3. Many times we got lazy and instead of patiently running the offense we
>>>jacked up shots to try to put a dagger in the Mavs so they'd give up. Note
>>>to team: THAT NEVER FRICKEN WORKS!!!! NEVER HAS!!!! NEVER
>>>WILL!!!! QUIT IT!!!!

Mostly agree. In the third though, they frequently tried to work the ball inside and either Pau turned it over or they got doubled and kicked it back out... And THEN someone jacked up an outside shot.

>>>4. We got a large lead and stopped playing defense.

Bingo. In that stretch in the 3rd where the lead dwindled from 16 to 3, the Lakers were turning the ball over and not running back on defense. Most of the points by Dallas were fast break points or slow-fast break points, where 2 or more of the Lakers were still standing back on the offensive end (especially Pau).

Up to that point in the game, the Lakers had held Dallas to a pretty low shooting percentage, somewhere in the low 40's. From then to the end of the game, they let them shoot over 50%. That's a recipe for failure.

Yellofever,

you asked: What did kenny say about the rotations?

my response: It was quite an interesting viewpoint. The gist of it was:
How do you criticize the coach who has won 11 rings?

Then he brought up when Phil brought the starters back in.
Then he spoke of why Pau was guarding Dirk instead of Lamar.
Then he spoke of timeout/player mismanagement which prevented
Lamar from coming in and left Gasol on the island of persecution.
[ paraphrase :) ]. Which led to his final line: That's how you criticize
a coach who has won 11 championships.

Don P.

you wrote/asked: Can someone please tell me why our best low post player and defensive stopper Andrew Bynum is on the bench the last 4 minutes of the game and soft Pau Gasol is in.

my response: Per Phil Jackson, the Mavs were preventing him from getting
into the lane. Preventing him from getting to his spots.

FYI, Bynum is *NOT* our best low post player nor is he our best defensive
stopper.

And before anybody starts, no ... I am not blaming Bynum for anything.
Pau is playing like a chump. Period. Yes, I'm aware that he's got reasonable
stats. He has been playing like an over-ripe tomato the entire year.


Everyone,

I would have preferred to see Bynum & Odom finish the game vs. Pau &
Odom because of the soft play of Pau.

re: Why I'm not faulting Kobe? Per Phil, blame Kobe's teammates for
how/when they gave him the ball. Per Phil, "he was riding the hot hand".

Phil's rotation sucked in the 4th quarter. Whenever Dirk is on the floor,
Kobe should be on the floor. Not because Kobe is guarding Dirk, but
because you need to keep the game close. Because of Phil's rotation in the
fourth, we squandered a big league and Kobe cooled off. Pau is playing
like a freshman at the Senior prom. Scared. soft. W/o confidence.

In 1994, Phil made it to the Eastern Conference semi-finals and took New York to 7 games... without Michael Jordan.

Remind me again, when did Kurt Rambis ever make the playoffs, let alone win a series?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 03, 2011 at 10:34 AM

He had the same team except Jordan. 55 wins. Pippen and Kukoc. Rambis has only Love a scrub who can take down 20 rebs. The real one was nothing in the USA Team. Just a big fish in the small pound.

I'm wondering if PJ makes the playoffs with Rambis team.

Your pfunk36 jab failed.

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Much as pfunk will scream, that's not a bad suggestion. Barnes hasn't been quite the same since coming back from his injury. And Luke gets Bynum more oops than any of the killer B's.

If Barnes was playing lock down defense, it would be one thing. But since he's not, getting Luke to kick-start the bench mob offense could tip the scales back in the Lakers' favor.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 03, 2011 at 10:49 AM

As soon as Luke is on the floor, he will be left alone to brick from any position on the court. One alley up? 2 points. Barnes also can scrap 2 points.

At this moment Luke's confidence is not good enough for D-League.

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It's disingenuous to place the blame on Phil for this loss. If Dallas had turned the Lakers' 7 point lead into a 7 point lead by Dallas, that would be one thing. But Phil rested his stars as long as he felt comfortable and put them back in in a good position to win the game, and they didn't get it done.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 03, 2011 at 10:47 AM

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It's disingenuous to place the blame on Phil for this loss.".

Really?

How about that substitution blunder in the clutch?
How about making Gasol the "go to guy" (by the way, after he entered the game, Gasol had consecutive turnovers) and having his patented dribble, dribble, scared to go left, scared to go right and taking a "fall back" shot blocked by Chandler.

We can't call that a fade away, because players jump in the air to fade away. Gasol just felled back without leaving the floor: FALL BACK.

Your chess "PJ DEFENSE" failed again. Next move?

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"Phil rested his stars as long as he felt comfortable and put them back in in a good position to win the game"

Like in 2008 in the Boston Game 4?

Actually Dallas called TO when Kobe had a chance to re-enter the game. PJ did not do ANYTHING.

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But because you LOVE stats:

"Bryant played 6 minutes, 38 seconds of the final period, compared to 6:55 for Blake and Barnes. Dallas' star, Dirk Nowitzki, played 10:27 of the fourth, scoring 11 points, grabbing five rebounds and making the plays at the end."

and you also love humor:

"Quizzed about it afterward, Bryant joked, "Are you asking me should I check myself in? No, I've never done that before. (I'm) too coachable for that."


If you keep blowing comfortable leads, you don't deserve to win SQUAT. Period.

@DBDH – nice list.

@Magia – kudos to you for giving DFish props.

@MVP – we may have to keep you away from games…j/k.

@Corner J – Granted the Mavs have better outside shooters than the Lakers, but I wouldn’t count on Lakers not named Kobe to go 1-10 from 3pt many more games.

I think Pau killed this game on the last 2 possesions...

first he tries to get the ball to kobe, he trips, hit pau in the hand and pau drops the ball, turnover!!

Second play: Mavs inbound the ball, Dirk goes out to grab the inbound pass, while in the air Gasol thinks he can get the ball, beraly touches Dirks hand and at the same time Dirks acting skills paid off.. they get a foul...

Last possession 3.1 left on the clock... they put a screen for kobe, inbound the ball and kobe jacks up a distant 3 pointer, bounces in, hits the rim and flies back out...

Lakers lose?!! :(

somehow I cant help but put the blame in Phils and Pau's hands... i think Pau should have been sitting and Phil should have been doing a better job in keeping LO in the game...

Also coming out of the timeout with a little over a minute to go........instead of running a play through Kobe, Phil runs a set for Gasol in the post where he clearly didn't have an advantage against Tyson Chandler.............Gasol shoots an airball

Posted by: pfunk36 | May 03, 2011 at 09:14 AM
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Pfunk – If you have the game on DVR I suggest you watch that play again. Pau was hacked on his elbow/arm. Chandler was nowhere near the ball. The refs missed that one.

Good point about his matchups on that last Mavs possession. I couldn’t believe it when I saw Bynum guarding JKidd? Go figure.

the last play should have been a play for Fisher...

they should have used KOBE as a decoy and set up a play for fish to knock down the 3 ball...

i think that would have worked... any thoughts?

While I still think the lakers will win the series, and while I hope for another rematch this year.........it is refreshing to read some comments stating what many people outside of LA already know - Phil Jackson can't coach. He is a master of managing personalities and PRE-game......but he does not come through with IN -Game stuff..he has been blessed with great talent, and makes the most of it over the long haul....BUT he does not manage a game or minutes well, and he does not develop talent...he inherits it!!

Also LOVED the "we/They" comment - he's been doing that since CHI.
Congrats for figuring the phony out - now BOTH our teams need to get their collective butts in gear!!!!

First of all, give the Mavs credit. They were gritty when they needed to be. I fully expected LA to blow out DAL early in the 3rd. Again. But they defended well, particularly Tyson Chandler, who used his length to his advantage. The Mavs bench played extremely well throughout the 2d half. Kidd put a body on Kobe in crunch time and it affected him.

When Bynum plays well, LA cannot be beaten. When he does not,LA is prone to blow leads and lose. He didn't have quite the defensive impact last night, but DAL hit a ton of outside shots. Kobe was right, the supporting cast let DAL dictate the tempo and failed to get the ball to Socks when he had position in the 2d half. Still, I hope Bynum can be more assertive from here on out, if only to draw some fouls on Chandler/Haywood.

Artest had a horrible game, but that's to be expected. He's going to have some clunkers in the playoffs.

Kobe took a few too many heat checks in the second half. He left his man a few times and the team paid the price.

And for the first time in some time, the coaching staff lost track in the 2nd half. They couldn't get their subs in in the final minutes. They kept their starters out too long. I'd think you'd let your bench get more run in Game 2, and let the starters play heavy minutes in Game 1 to get the first one. That didn't happen.

Now, we've seen this before. HOU. DEN. ORL. NO. All toom the first game on the road from LA in playoff series in the last 3 seasons. All wound up going home. That can happen again, but this ain't the Same Old Mavs. I still believe LA will win this series, but you have to be impressed by DAL's effort last night.

Who did a worse job? Phil Jackson? The players? Or the guy who made these videos. I have tremors and could have done a better job.

Pau sucks! He should be on the second team.

New article came out showing evidence that Lebron James is better
at game winning shots than Kobe:

http://chasing23.com/kobe-bryant-vs-lebron-james-game-winning-shots/

WHY ONLY THE SECOND UNIT HAS TO DUMP THE BALL INSIDE" What about Kobe, is he excluded from it? Is Kobe not part of the team? Frustrating to see a ballgame in control slip away because of trigger happy cowboy! Team sport, team spirit, team defense, team offense is the mantra for 3peat!

Yup Kobe is going to do what he does best, shoot the ball to his hearts content!!

Bryant repeatedly said it wasn't his fault, pointing instead to the Lakers' reserves.

"It had nothing to do with me," he said. "I'm going to do what I do. I think the second unit, we've got to make a conscious effort to get the ball in to Pau and get the ball in to Andrew."

"I like to see everybody involved in the game," Jackson said. "I've tried to preach as a basketball coach, even though we have a guy that dominates the ball in Kobe, basketball is not a one on one game — it's a team game."

Posted by: Norcal from S valley | May 03, 2011 at 10:50 AM

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Kobe's right! The second unit needs to do a better job of getting the ball inside. Shannon Brown thinks he's Kobe 2.0 every time he gets onto the court. The guy has no clue what he's doing and the second unit looks like a JV team.
Kobe's option 1. When he's on the court, he SHOULD be getting most of the looks and touches.
When Kobe's on the bench, Pau becomes option 1. But the reserves jack up jumpshots intead of pounding the ball inside. Pau's not blameless, as he doesn't demand the ball. Drew demands the ball more, but it's still jumpshots more than inside shots when Kobe's out of the game.
So what Kobe's really saying is: When I'm in the game, I'm taking shots. When I'm out of the game, Pau should be getting shots. There's your equal shot distribution.

Reasons why PJ does not like to call timeouts:

1) timeouts are for girls
2) he actually has to pay attention to the game
3) he has to stand up
4) he has to actually coach
5) his ego gets in the way

>>>He had the same team except Jordan. 55 wins. ...
>>>Your pfunk36 jab failed.

Oh. Funny, pfunk didn't mention anything about Pippen or Kukoc.

So what he really meant to say was,

Phil without any players = Kurt Rambis. Does that about do it?

I've said this before and I'll say it again... NOT ONE COACH in the history of the NBA has won a championship without at least a couple of All-Star caliber players. NOT ONE.

Kobe shoots 29 shots and says the bench needs to get the ball into Pau and Bynum. But he doesn't have to play within the offense. The inbalance has nothing to do with him. http://bit.ly/jdNwFz


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