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Ron Artest suspended for one game, will sit out Friday's game

Photo: Ron Artest walks off the court after being ejected in the second half of  Game 2 against Dallas on Wednesday night. Credit: Chris Pizzello / Associated Press Lakers forward Ron Artest will sit out Game 3 of the playoff series against the Dallas Mavericks because of a one-game suspension handed down by the NBA.

Artest was ejected from Game 2 with 24.4 seconds left after smacking Dallas guard Jose Barea in the face with his forearm. It was Artest's second technical foul of the game.

The Lakers will start either Lamar Odom or Matt Barnes in Artest's place Friday. Luke Walton might see his first playing time of the playoffs.

Artest will forfeit $57,476 in pay for the suspension. He had a strong start to the playoffs against New Orleans but has tailed off in the Western Conference semifinals against Dallas, averaging 6.5 points while making only five of 18 shots (27.8%).

Artest didn't exactly express remorse for his suspension, citing the need to "move forward" or "move on" no less than seven times in two minutes with reporters.

The Lakers trail the Mavericks, 2-0, in the best-of-seven series. Games 3 and 4 will be in Dallas.

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Photo: Ron Artest walks off the court after being ejected in the second half of  Game 2 against Dallas on Wednesday night. Credit: Chris Pizzello / Associated Press

 
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Clearly the suspension is warranted.. have to ask why Ron Ron waited until the game was in effect over before he clocked Barrera? He should have done it in the third quarter, much the same as D Fish clocked Luis Scolia in the Houston series two years ago. Don't understand the Lakers just "taking it" last night.

Artest has been a liability in this series anyway.

His atrocious shooting in game one was a main factor in losing

His tactless flagrant on Barrea was uncalled for. You can't blame Barrea for taking it to paint when the Red Sea opens uptime and time again.

His defense has not been necessary because he can't guard Dirk and there is no other player who can single-handily take over a game.

I am a believer that your best 5 players should start and Lamar Odom is a better player.

START SHANNON, SHOOTING 50%, AT LEAST ADDS SOME SPEED AND DIMENSION. WE LACK VERVE.

DALLAS IS PLAYING OVER THEIR HEADS, BUT WE'RE HELPING THEM.

How is it Artest's fault that Barea only comes up to his forearm! Artest was just using muscle memory to hard foul a player and instead of hitting him in the chest where a normal sized human would stand he hit the sawed off Barea in the face.

LakerTom,

you wrote: IF ARTEST IS SUSPENDED, PHIL NEEDS TO START LAMAR AT SMALL FORWARD ALONG WITH BYNUM AND GASOL. AND IF THEY PUT BEREA IN THE GAME, PHIL NEEDS TO GO WITH THE BIG FIVE AND POST THE MIDGET EVERY TIME THE LAKERS PLAY OFFENSE.

my response: Are you *still* of the opinion that size is everything?

Starting LO at SF does nothing to help any of the problems. Nothing.

We have two fundamental problems, as I see it.

1. Pau's play has sucked!
2. We can stop penetration.
3. We can stop pick-n-roll.

re: #2. Lamar at SF won't help this.

I'd prefer to see playing time for Ebanks. We're too slow.

DON’T UNDERESTIMATE THE HEART OF A CHAMPION !!!!!
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Comment from the “real” Lakers fans who still believe in their team
and have not given up and jumped off the bandwagon:
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@LUDWIG ... Damn straight. Just win Game 3 and the Mavs will choke.
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@APPOLO C. VERMONT ... Let’s see how the Mavs feel tied 2-2 after Sunday.
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@CMONLAKESHOW ... I agree. Lakers in 6 or 7. This is not over yet.
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@LAKESHOWINPHX ... History will repeat itself as far as Mavs are concerned.
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@JAMIE SWEET ... I’m looking for Kobe to have a breakout game Friday.
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@ALEXESAM ... I think you gut is telling you the truth. Time to place your bet.
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@CARINA... No doubt that this Lakers team can win 4 out of 5 from Dallas.
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@SEGEBOY ... Listen to the Sherriff, everybody. Not the time to quit.
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@JOE_CORAD ... Yes, one game (Friday) will change this series.
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@BENJAMIN ... I have a hunch we will get a boost from a friend above.
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@BALL GIRL 1 ... Excellent post. No question Drew should be our#2 option.
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@ADRIAN PALOMAR ... “Real” Laker fans don’t abandon their team. Period.
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@FANO615 ... Good to see some believers among the new posters. Kudos.
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@LONGTIMELAKERLOVER ... You’re too much of a Lakerholic to give up now.
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@ISANG ... I agree. We just have to believe and it will happen. Lakers in 6.
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@HOBBITMAGE ... LOL. As long as we have Kobe, we still have a shot.
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@LROB ... It will Kobe and Drew who will bring us back from the edge.
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@LAKERHOLIC ... The answer is to feed the Beast and he will respond.
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@NORCAL FROM S.VALLEY ... I agree. We will move on to WCF.
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@CORNERJ ... By Sunday night, the Mavs will fold under the pressure.
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@INDAFRIDGE ... Damn straight. Lakers in 6. Just do it!
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@LAKERSFANINEXILE ... Panic is what the Mavs will feel by Sunday.
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@OCKEZY ... I agree. It’s not too late to unleash the Beast.
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@LALAKERZ213 ... Can’t wait to see Cuban crying after losing 4 straight.
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@TIM-4-SHOW ... Keep the faith, Tim. We’re going to win this in 6.
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@JON K ... Yes, our rooting can generate the karma to carry the team to triumph.
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@NUGGETSCOUNTRY ... Make sure to set that DVR to record your Birthday present.
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TOM


Win or lose i won't give up on my team! C'mon Lakerholics, let's cheer on our team no matter what! Bring on the positive energy! Go Lakers!!!!

I am a Lakers fan, and Ron's play last night was not the sort of thing a Laker should be doing. It was a total knucklehead play on many grounds, including the risk of hurting someone and the likelihood of disqualifying yourself from a playoff game. And for no reason at all. Our team stays away from punk moves like that. Poorly done, Ron.

Ron Artest is a basketcase!! I don't see why the Fakers wanted him anyway!

He better be suspended, one game is cheap. It should have been for the rest of the series or the playoffs. He is upset because his team mates are soft. They are going down

So not happy about this.

LUKE!!!! This is your moment to carve your name in the continuing monument of Lakers lore!

The Game Luke Saved Us!

Don't let me down!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I would love to see the Lakers start Lamar at the small forward, but have a creeping feeling that Luke may become more involved.

What the heck is Phillip Jackson doing?

Playing Blake when he was having a melt-down is just insane. This is no time for life lessons at this stage of the game.

I once called Phillip a saboteur as he once called Kobe the same thing.

I don't know what to say, the Mavericks are doing what they want to do whenever they want to do it and there is no adjustment from the coaching staff.

The Mavs play a zone, adjust.
The Mavs pass the ball around the perimeter until they find an open man, adjust.
The Mavs play pick and roll to get easy dunks and shots, adjust.

Make me eat crow Phillip and I'll adjust.


Artest should use this time off to get ready for Game 4. You can't do anything to change the outcome of history but u can learn from it and tweak the future to Lakers' advantage. How many 3 pts. shot did Artest miss yesterday? Had he connected them, it could have been the difference of the game.

Are we being convinced here in every thread to give up our Lakers? Yup, those are the losers of the yesteryears who are now gloating for the temporary demise of the defending Champs.? Sometimes comedy, sometimes desperate, sometimes concerned, sometimes repulsive and racist torturing all the regulars in this blog. If the Celtics or Mavs were the defending Champs and they're on the same predicament the Lakers are in, will I or u go to their blog and shove it to them? Maybe, only an uncivilized fan who has a great deal of time on his hand, uneducated, uncultured would do such thing, it's his time to gloat and rejoice at the expense of someone else. Will u allow this individual to change course as a Laker fan if we don't make this year?

Lakers can still win this series so give them a chance to recuperate and find solutions to their apparent problems.

"How is it Artest's fault that Barea only comes up to his forearm! Artest was just using muscle memory to hard foul a player and instead of hitting him in the chest where a normal sized human would stand he hit the sawed off Barea in the face.

Posted by: Bako Laker Fan | May 05, 2011 at 01:34 PM "

Ron knew what he was doing. We knew what he was doing. Even if you want to argue the foul was height related, he had no reason to hard foul him in the back court when the game was already over. He should have accepted the loss with class and thought of ways to improve for game 3.

Really just 1 game !! Thats telling the kids watching the game its ok to do that you only get 1 game suspension. What kind of example is that?

look at the bright, this might be luke walton's opportunity to earn his paycheck and bring the lakers to a game 3 victory! ok seriously though, lamar will play at least 40 plus, and barnes at leat 30 plus. i would be surprised if luke even gets 10 minutes.

This is so silly, he shouldn't have been suspended for this -- there was no malice here, just frustration and it was so harmless. He practically hugged him.


On a more important point, Mitch Kupchek needs to take a lot of blame here. Not since 2000, the year that the Lakers had Glen Rice, have they had a knock-down 3-point shooter (other than the Machine in 2008). This falls on the GM. This is utterly pathetic, to go 10 years and not come up with a 3-point shooter on this team. They have gotten away with it for years, with Horry, Fisher and Kobe stepping up with big shots to win games, but not last night. The Lakers were 0-18 from 3-point range until a couple of meanningless ones in the final minutes.


Kupchek is extremely over-rated. This is the same guy who gave Luke Walton a 6-year contract, the same guy who signed Devon George to a ridiculous contract when he could have worked out a sign and trade for Chauncy Billups that same year. Billups went on to become the Finals MVP in 2004 against the Lakers. With Billups, you'd have another Championship banner in 2004.


Kupchek got lucky with the Gasol trade, but when you look at that, Jerry West probably had something to do with that move as he was a former GM in Memphis, AND, more and more the trade doesn't look all that fantastic as the play of Gasol's brother improves. After all, but for that trade, a younger and more physical Marc Gasol would be on the Lakers right now.


Mitch, what ails this team is a lack of a pure 3-point shooter. You know that, you're not dumb, so why haven't you been able to secure such a player for the Lakers in TEN LONG FREAKING YEARS?????

testing ... moderation or not?

Ron-Ron, you picked a very bad time to go all "bonehead" on us. Your team is facing a "must win" game tomorrow night, and, at the time you chose to lose your cool and go all elbow on the guy exposed your whole team as a bunch of confused guys who weren't on the same page, the outcome of the game was not in question. You basically have single-elbowed your team into a deeper hole by your lack of self control and commitment to your team. Your performance in the first series was stellar and up to your potential, and I was happy for you and the team that you silenced your critics, and now you go and do THIS? Bonehead, man - Bonehead!

If the Lakers lose on Friday, and go down 3-0 to the Mavericks, the blame can't all be heaped on you. The first two games of the Dallas series have been a team effort in lack of concentration and effort, blaming each other, bitching to the refs on every play, even if they ARE missing calls, and ignoring your obvious superiority in size and length and settling for crazy outside shots, as well as developing a real case of "butterfingers". I am not sure I know exactly what Andrew Bynum is referring to by claiming "lack of trust", but I sense that he may be referring to the fact that when the Lakers go inside and establish the inside game, and pound their opdponents with the size and strength of your three seven footers and your stifling defense, you can't be beaten, and that is nowhere close to what you did in the the last two games. I know Kobe and Fish get it, and it sounds like Drew gets it, so what is it with the rest of the team, including YOU Ron-Ron? Sorry, but what you did was a bonehead move and it further weakens your team, which is now on the ropes, down, but not out.

The only thing you can do to make up for it is to pray that your teammates steal Game Three, and then you go out in Game Four and play like you did against New Orleans and forget the trash talk and elbows and play within the system.

To the rest of the team - listen to Phil, please! Run your offense through Drew and Pau, and, oh, yeah - play some defense. I know you can, because I have seen it.

For all the nay-sayers out there - if the Lakers are going to Three-Peat, they are going to have to play like the champions that they are at some point, not whatever the heck they were doing the last two games. Also, they will eventually have to win two games in a row sometime during this series, and, if they make it, in the next two series, so it might as well be now, so then they will win out, leaving Dallas in the dust.

Or not.

The real problem with this type of play is that 'basketball' is no longer played in the NBA.

It should be renamed the National Brawling Association.

The 'picks' and 'blocks' would warrent a 15 yard penalty in football.

The so-called 'big men' in the middle lean on each other and remind most observers as if they were two elephants attemting to mate.

Basketball, as a skill sport, left the arena a long time ago beginning with Tommy Heinshon(sp) with the old Celtics. Every since every team is required to have a 'hit' man and in some cases each team may have several.

It is very honestly, a disgusting spectacle to view, particularly if you want to watch a true basketball game.

i got banned for no reason wtf?


I'd prefer to see playing time for Ebanks. We're too slow.

Posted by: hobbitmage | May 05, 2011 at 01:34 PM


Seriously Ebanks, that's a reach for you unless you mean.... a Ebanks who actually got some PT in the regular season and showed steady improvement throughout his rookie season.

Phillip Jackson is coaching this team, remember?

Luke! Now it's your time to Shine!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Am I the only one who saw Artest going for the ball, colliding with LO and subsequently smacking Berea in the head? I don't think he intentionally clocked him, otherwise the damage would've been far more severe.

The Lakers are low class thugs and Ron Artest proved it. I can't believe there are people dumb enough to defend trash like Artest. Hurting another player for no reason except that you are a sore loser is disgusting.

Moderation it is. Anyway ....

I, the PSP don't like how when some people criticize the team, others decide that they are not true Laker fans because they dared point out deficiencies our team currently has.

We, the PSP want our team to win as much as anybody else BUT sometimes you have to look at things objectively. We have lost 2 HOME games in a row, supposedly have trust issues, half our players have lost confidence, none can make a shot, none can play defense, and a coach that can't really coach.

I, the PSP feel that for us to win this series, either Kobe reenacts his form of old OR Pau Gasol steps up big time and plays like we know he can. Sadly, father time is impossible to beat, but the PSP believe Kobe still has some spectacular games left in him and we need some right about now.

I, the PSP finally would like to ask, whats all the worry about? It's only practice playoff season! It doesn't matter if we lose or win, we still move on to the next round so chill out guys!! teeheehhee

Thanks
PSP Intern

@LakerTom

We will win this in 7! I have a strong feeling that Kobe is going to have a masterful game Friday night by dishing first and then exlpoding for 35.

LakerTom sir you are the only worthy Laker fan left on this site! my hats off to you!!!

LakerTom sir you are the only worthy Laker fan left on this site! my hats off to you!!!

Luke Walton in the game. OMG WIN!

LakerTom --

Well said, my friend.


Game 3, win just one game -- then watch as ALLLLLLL the pressure will be heaped on the Mavericks at home, which often brings added pressure. The soft, jump-shooting Mavs will cook under the pressure like a juicy Texas porter house steak when their shots stop falling.


Just win game 3! Can the Lakers, these 2-time Champions, win one freaking game? Of course, they can -- this is why I can't believe all the pessimism. Yes, our backs are agains the wall, but this team PLAYS BETTER with their backs up against the wall!!!!!!


Have faith in your team, no matter what!!!


The world famous, 16-time world champion Lakers will make this series very interesting, with 2 wins in Dallas!!!!

Berea shouldn't have gotten in the way of Ron's elbow!

LT: Count me in among those who still believe, and will continue to believe until the purple and gold streamers fall from the Staples Center ceiling. Or until the Lakers win Game 6 in Dallas.

Whatever. I still believe.

Go Lake Show!

Dude...will somebody please flush the TOILET, the Lakers are circling the DRAIN. Ron Ron will be traded, a serious NUTCASE.

I agree with the suspension because of the rules (arm to face or head equals suspension) but it wasn't malicious in my opinion and you even see Artest trying to hold him up with his forearm after making contact as if to say "my bad." It was a weird play due to the timing and he should be suspended one game so it works.

Yeah, let's go LAKERS, YOU CAN DO IT, you like this kind of situation, IT'S KOBE TIME BABY, and that booing at the end of the game, shame on you, we are rooting for Lakers 7456 miles away staying through the night and WE BELIEVE. GO LAKERS.

Lakers in 6!!!

Posted by: LALakerz213

LALakerz213,
I'm a Laker fan too, but a realistic kind of fan. There's no way they can still come back with a 0-2 defictit with the next two games in Dallas. If this is the team then which is composed of Magic, Worthy, Jabbar, Byron, A.C., Cooper and co. I can say that they have a chance to come back and win the series. But this present Lakers line-up are a different kind of animals that if they face this kind of adversity they will just roll-over with no resistance at all. Just watch how the game tomorrow played-out. The game will be close until the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and Kobe will take over and lose the game because of his ball hogging. The game on Sunday will be a disaster because the Lakers will not show up the way they did against the Phoenix in game seven and against Boston in game 6 in the 2008 finals. A blow-out win by the Mavericks in game 4. It will be a sweep! I will post again on Monday May 9, 2011 and have these words "I TOLD YOU SO"

LakerTom good job on the post, i see there are true lakers fans still left on this site!!!

Maybe it was a bit premature to give Ron Artest an award for good citizenship...you think?

No excuse for that nonsense last night.

I think Matt Barnes will actually get the start, so it's probably a non-issue...

But will pfunk cry if Luke gets the start and the Lakers win?

Concerned: Yes, worried: Yes. Giving up om my Favorite Team: Never.....

Bring on Game 3. Lake Show we have your back always......

'Nuf said.

@Arben - a lot of the so called laker "fans" that attend games are really not laker fans at all, its those people such as ourselfs watching it on TV. All the rest are celeberties and their groups coming in just to get entertained. the only real laker fan in the seats is Jack and maybe George Lopez but others are bunch of rich people who dont even want to wear a T-shirt that they just got, because their Armani is way more flashy they cant put them on no way! have you seen the THunder Fans? all wearing the same t-shirt and screaming on top of their lungs? how about the CHEAT fans? same thing everyones wearing the color. but no, not in LA you wont find people playing along, were different state as they always say, its very sad to see the crowd booing our team, at first i tought that was for the MAVS but if that was for the Lakers than LA has lost its touch. these people dont even remember that just 2 years ago they were screaming on top of their lungs no matter, how bad the lakers lost... its just sad, very very sad, but have no doubt the true laker fans are at home and cheering for our team to take out the MAVS in 6!!

GO lakerz!!!

Luke Walton?

seriously folks did anyone watch him play this year.

Things are bad, but not as bad as you might think at first glance. One stat that's been quoted a lot is that only 3 of 18 teams that have lost the first two games at home have gone on to win the series.

Phil is 2 and 5 in that situation. So he's better than average about climbing out of deep holes.

Hey, anybody remember when Dallas won the first two games in the finals and looked like they were dominating... and then lost the next 4?

The Lakers tried to establish Gasol in last nights game and he was awful.

He couldn't get to the basket
He made Dirk look like a defensive specialist
He couldn't find an open man
He settled for jump shots
and when he bends over he is so weak he can't straighten up so you end up with a 6'3" guy trying to play power forward

and most importantly did anyone see him just give up on that one shot by Dirk?
did anyone see that look on his face?

LTLF

Dallas won the first 2 games at home

Big difference

I see nothing wrong with what Artest did. At least not suspension worthy, I mean. This league has gone as soft as Gasol.

spell poorly: Yes

did Phil purposely say in his post game interview that he thought Artest would probably be suspended?

Artest suspension a blessing in disguise

I say yes

Nobody can make an outside shot. Pau is getting abused down low. Lamar is playing inconsistent. Artest has been suspended. Blake is having a meltdown of epic proportions, with Phil only adding flame to the fire. Phil is not making any adjustments to defend the high pick and roll, and is getting outcoached. Fish is trying too hard. Barnes does not look healthy. Everything seems against us at this moment, but there is still hope.

What's the solution for game 3? KOBE ACTIVATE. Kobe ball to the rescue! He will not let this team wilt under the bright lights. He will WILL his team to a victory on Friday. Look for an aggressive Kobe from the get go in Dallas. In Kobe we trust. GO LAKERS!

This is NOT over.

KOBE will never go out like a chump. We have a veteran club, who will re-tool and re-up.

1. Dallas has been playing out of their minds. This can't last too much longer. Dirk will get his, we have to concentrate on the other aspects: no open 3s, pick and roll defense, and rebounds. Point the paint, get Gasol and Bynum the ball DEEP and early. Inside-Out.

2. Lakers haven't had a solid flow going since 3rd Quarter Game 1; the result was a 16 point lead with ease. Get back to who we are, and there is no reason why we can't climb back.

3. Ron's actions reflect the team's frustration. It is time to forget about the past games, and the frustration that followed.

4. I actually prefer Barnes in the starting line-up over Odom. Barnes is a hustler, he can boost the energy of the starting line up through his scrappy hard-nosed play. We need Odom to provide scoring off the bench; he is the NBA's 6th man; time to "earn your stripes" LO. Show the Mavs, and jason terry what you're capable of. With no LO, where can the bench turn to for scoring? the big (gasol or bynum) left on the floor with them? No way that is too one dimensional....

Any thoughts Laker FAITHFUL?

“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.”

-THE OAK

Lakers in 7. Holla if you hear me!!!

Almost any other player in the NBA, and that's just an open forearm bump to the chest. Solid D, or maybe a minor foul.

Don't blame Artest cuz Barrea is so dang short.

Hey. doesn't this ride have minimum height limits?

"Am I the only one who saw Artest going for the ball, colliding with LO and subsequently smacking Berea in the head? I don't think he intentionally clocked him, otherwise the damage would've been far more severe.

Posted by: Tom Chambers | May 05, 2011 at 01:59 PM "

I didn't see him going for the ball. It looked to me like running into Odom was what stopped Ron's momentum from being able to do a full speed clothesline on Barea. Either that or he was going after Odom in the first place? Either way, his head was somewhere else and it's good he got sent out before he hurt someone. He's lucky to only have the one game suspension.

@LongTimeLakerFan - yes I remember that game, ahaha they tought they had the world in their hands, until it all came crumbling down, just like this series ;)

rafanico - how about you and me come back on monday, and ill show you the words " I TOLD YOU SO" dont be a soar looser, when things get tight, the solution becomes more clear, watch the lakers hand it to the MAVS in their home floor. Wait what happend with NOLA first round? i can recall us beating them in their home floor!!! yea MAVS arnt NOLA but hey, crazy things happend before in the past, so why not this one! let me see your laker pride man!!! dont be a looser, be a winner and root for LA!

Phil is 2 and 5 in that situation. So he's better than average about climbing out of deep holes.

Hey, anybody remember when Dallas won the first two games in the finals and looked like they were dominating... and then lost the next 4?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 05, 2011 at 02:22 PM

LTLF

The PSP is not a great mathematician BUT last the PSP checked 2 out of 7 is certainly not average. But what do I know; it's still practice playoff season for the PSP.

Thanks
PSP Intern

Problem with this years team is that our new players are not Championship level battle tested and it showed last night.

Hope Steve Blake's mental state is not forever ruined.

though I criticize Phillip's decision to leave him in the game while he was having meltdown, the faith (or stupidity) of such a decision will make Blake either a stronger player for it or forever ruin his career.

Only time will tell

Phil Jackson is a Cylon
And he has a Plan

This series just went from bad to worse. I'm not so sure he was trying to catch Barea in the face, maybe just grab him hard. Take a few looks at the replay, if you can.

There is a piece at www.thedailyhattrick.info previewing the biggest sporting events of the coming week and it doesn't look so hot for the Lake Show.

you ignorant mavs trolls, and laker haters in general make me laugh. where was david stern and the nba when the wannabe thug terry shoved blake with two hands in the back, throwing him to the floor. not only was terry not suspended, but the mainstream media, nba gatekeepers defended the league for not suspending terry. only reason why ron ron got suspended is because of reputation, anyway it doesn't make a difference, barnes and the rest of the bench needs to step it up immensely now! and let's not forget, haters, in game 7 of the finals, lakers DO NOT win without ron ron knocking down clutch shot after clutch shot, including the infamous three point shot followed by the blown kisses to the crowd. we the true lakers fans love and appreciate you, ron ron!

@ Bay to LA. I was just kidding about Artest "accidentally" hitting Barrea, trying to have a little fun in these dark times.

Well, at least Artest isn't beating up fans (Pacers-era) or clocking Kobe (Rockets-era) anymore... we can call that progress, right?

"Things are bad, but not as bad as you might think at first glance. One stat that's been quoted a lot is that only 3 of 18 teams that have lost the first two games at home have gone on to win the series.

Phil is 2 and 5 in that situation. So he's better than average about climbing out of deep holes.

Hey, anybody remember when Dallas won the first two games in the finals and looked like they were dominating... and then lost the next 4?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | May 05, 2011 at 02:22 PM"

Actually Phil has never won a series where he lost the first two games at home.

Repost from last thread.

There were two important things to take away from Game 2 of this series and those are that the Lakers first round struggle was not an abberation and the Lakers home fans at Staples Center are terrible fans. Pau Gasol's uninspired frist round play continues but the Lakers problems are much deeper than the Spanard forgeting how to play winning playoff basketball. Shannon Brown has been lost since mid season, Barnes has not yet recovered from his knee surgery, and who knows what happened to Steve Blake. Fisher's age is starting to show with no heroic shot his defensive problems and lack of offense are more noticable. After a strong first round Artest went back to his inconsistent ways along with Lamar Odom. Kobe looks tired and for the first time a little old, still looks like the best player on the floor for the Lakers though. The only person who has played a little above par is Andrew Bynum and that is only because Andrew has been so horrible in past playoffs, due largely to injury but facts are facts. Well, I still can have hope for the Lakers but it looks like Laker fans need to get used to seeing someone else play in the finals this year. If the Lakers are bounced from the playoffs I am at least happy for the past three finals appearances and the two rings that the Kobe/Gasol Lakers have produced.

As for the other point, I have always resisted the urge to talk down about Laker fans at Staples but last nights game proved to me that these fans do not know what home court advantage should feel like, it is an important distinction because there are plenty of hard core Laker fans who genuinely love this team win or lose. It was not the fourth quarter reaction that got to me, it was the pathetic energy for the entire first two games. Clapping and cheering are problably too uncool for the hipsters sitting in the crowd and maybe they chose to show team loyatly through sarcastic comments and not cheering. Every fan should watch an OKC home game to see a real home crowd root for a team win or lose.

After saying all of that I still have some faith, or I am just a homer, that the Lakers can win. If the Lakers win it will take 7 games but man would it be sweet.

We will destroy Dallas on Friday in game 3 wire to wire! Game 4 will be a hard fought game, it won't matter who wins. If the Lakers win then the series will be tied going back to LA for the closeout. If Dallas wins then the Laker's will take game 5 and 6 for a game 7 in Los Angeles. A truely epic historical run for the ages.........


Never understimate the heart of a Kobe.....
In Kobe I trust!

rafanico --


You're pathetic. You're not a real Lakers fan, you don't even know basketball history. The Mavericks have blown a 2-0 lead before, in 2006. Three other teams have come back from an 0-2 deficit, going on the road.


This is far from impossible. If it was 0-3, you would have a point, but it's not 0-3!!! And we still have Kobe, and we're playing against a bunch of soft, jump-shooting chokers in Dallas! They're not the 1986 Celtics or the 1989 Pistons, let alone the 2008 Celtics.


This is the front-running Dallas Mavericks, for crying out loud! This is a weak, soft, jump-shooting team. And we're the 2-time defending world Champions! Where's your pride, man?!

If Kobe apologises to the team for being a ball hog and selfish to boot LA will bounce back. The trust issue that Bynum was referring to was the same man who threw him under the bus after his rookie season. The same man who stated he trust his teammates but he trust himself more. The same man who the zen master said was uncoachable. The same man who Smush Parker said was everything that was right and wrong about the Lakers. The same man who LO complained about before the arrival of gasol and bynum and the return of fisher of lacking comraderie. The same man who gasol complained about that he was glad he reached his scoring plateau and now LA can focus on winning basketball again. Yall ask why LA is down 0-2 and I give you Kobe Bean Bryant. I know he once outscored Dallas by himself but team always beats individual.

IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER. THE REAL FAN ARE THOSE WHO STAY WITH THEIR TEAM UNTIL THE END.

Don't Worry........There's always NEXT YEAR. for the lAKERS

Mavs fan here. I think my Mavs better not get too cocky about the series so far. I suspect that there are some Lakers that are hopping MAD right now. So... the next 2 games will be interesting. I'm not expecting the Lakers to give up and roll over.

LAKERS IN SIX. YES WE CAN.
BIN LADEN BLAMALAM.
JES LIKE DAT.
HEY HEY! SUR-PRI-ISE!
BLACK MAMBA ON THE RISE
WITH DEADLIEST STEALTH
IN DOWNTOWN
COWTOWN
@ SUNDOWN.

yes, we can still win this thing, but i think we are going to need a bigger boat.it just seems that this is the type of drama needed to get the boys out of this funk and get their mojo back. i sure hope the mavs are celebrating and they don't realize that we got them exactly where we want them, daring to dream the impossible

Ron Artest is the NBA's citizen of the year! I'm sure that clothesline was his way of congratulating Barea for their win.

Some Lakers pointing fingers
Some Lakers not giving 100%
Some Lakers not thinking straight
Some Lakers looking soft
Some Lakers throwing teammates under the bus
Some Lakers not coaching

Some Practice Seasons carry over to the Playoff Seasons


Posted by: Ludwig

Just win game 3! Can the Lakers, these 2-time Champions, win one freaking game? Of course, they can -- this is why I can't believe all the pessimism. Yes, our backs are agains the wall, but this team PLAYS BETTER with their backs up against the wall!!!!!!

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Thats right we do rise to the occation,and what better time than now when every body is counting us out.Lets make history Lakers.

Go Lakers!

We gotta believe. Its not about people calling us fakers, or people saying lakers suck, or signs that say beat LA. Its all about taking 3-4 games n shutting down the haters.n Charles Barkley.

This is NOT over.

KOBE will never go out like a chump. We have a veteran club, who will re-tool and re-up.

Unless Kobe goes out like he did against Phoenix a few years back.


this year is so weird, problem is, if Kobe becomes facillitator and his teammates continue play poorly what will Kobe's response be?

Many fans have stated the obvious, we don't have shooters.
In Basketball you need shooters and an offensive scheme to get them to their sweet spots on the floor.

Coach Phillip said he was more worried about the defense
OK
does anyone think that the Lakers will win this series posting scores like 83-76?

Dallas can score, so the Lakers need to score

I am usually not a big fan of conspiracy theories, I routinely mock any birther within earshot, but I am starting to suspect a conspiracy on this very blog. Mamba24 has not posted since the playoffs began and the Lakers seem to be losing more often than when he was posting. If my memory is correct Mamba24 left around the same time that the Lakers took the slide at the end of the season. I am starting to think that Mark Medina is a Boston plant who has banned our good luck charm. Free Mamba24!

Also moderation really sucks.

JerselyLakerFan --

Very good point about J-Terry's blatant shove on Blake and no suspension.

Troll Man --

You're right, I hope Phil's decision to leave Blake in there does not scar him for the rest of his career. I would put him right back in the fire and see if he can sink a shot, but give him a quick hook in favor of Trey Johnson. He may get hot and save his career and the Lakers.

The act warranted suspension... How about they suspend the Ref for that horrific first technical against Artest in the second quarter, which pretty much took him out of the game. The worst call I've seen thus far in the series.

Lakers!!! Yes we can!

J.A. ADANDE writes, "They [the Mavericks] were outrebounded and lost the points in the paint and second-chance points categories in Game 1. The Lakers had the same number of field goals as them in Game 2, and had more rebounds and fewer turnovers."


Point is, we're not being dominated, NO WAY, NO HOW!!! This is not a case of being overmatched, we're just in a funk. We can snap out of it and over power this INFERIOR opponent. We can! Just win game 3! We're not going up againt the 1989 Pistons or even the 2008 Celtics, or even the 2009 Nuggets, who I deem superior to this jump-shooting Mavericks team.


The Mavs are a PHONY team. Sean Marrion? JJ Brea? Peja the former dancing queen? The euro centerfold, Dirk Diggler? Their coach, Jim Carrey? Who's not soft on this team? Chandler? Bynum has 60 pounds on this guy!


Come on, you guys, we can do this!!!


LAKERS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been a Lakers fan since I was a kid and I am now 42 -- I have never seen such a flagrant, ugly, embarassing foul. I am so disappointed. I am gald Ron is sitting out and would be even happier if they traded him. He is a liability to the team. the Lakers are in the fight of their life with the Mavericks and he gets himself in the situation of being suspended from the game!?! How about caring about winning, your teammates and fans by keeping your bad attitude in check?!? Ron Artest needs to go away - he is a giant piece of garbage that needs to be put back in the dump from which he came. Here is a harder statement to make -- if the Lakers lose tonight, I'm going to giggle my butt off and hope that it puts even more heat on the team to dump Ron.

Put Sasha in he can play D and shoot, oh wait I forgot the Lakers paid the Nets [1st round pick]to take him

island priest, get over the kobe bashing, or "criticizing" as you call it. do you think micheal jordan ever ap0logized to his teammates for being a ballhog, as you consistently label the black mamba as being? the only reason kobe takes so many shots, is because everytime bynum catches the ball down low, he looks confused. i clearly remember at least two possessions where he was blocked by the soft chandler last night. also, lamar odom went 3-12 from the field, gasoft an impressive 5-12, and the team shot 2-20 from three point range. so please, stop blaming black mamba for actually looking like the only guy on the court playing with intensity.

Are you people really watching the games? I live in No. Dallas and am amazed at the Maverick performance. These games are like a 5 on 4 hockey game. Lakers look ragged and confused, like they've changed uniforms with Dallas.

I don't see recovery, they are coming home and one of these games could be a blow out. Like Artest's return on the weekend is meaningless. Kobe can get 61, it's not going to matter.

Winner here is done at the next level anyway.

LakerTom,

you wrote: IF ARTEST IS SUSPENDED, PHIL NEEDS TO START LAMAR AT SMALL FORWARD ALONG WITH BYNUM AND GASOL. AND IF THEY PUT BEREA IN THE GAME, PHIL NEEDS TO GO WITH THE BIG FIVE AND POST THE MIDGET EVERY TIME THE LAKERS PLAY OFFENSE.

my response: Are you *still* of the opinion that size is everything?
================
size IS everything - at least your wife thinks so, she told me.

steve blake is a BUST! i think the pressure of the playoffs is too much fr him! play trey johnson, i bet he can knock down wide open looks! although artest is gone, it's not like he's been turning in stellar performances this series. he's been more of a liability. just think, if he's 2 - 7 in game 1, we win! instead, he was bricking more than the indianapolis brickyard! tomorrow night there's season is on the line....which Lakers will show up? i know kobe will not go down easily......can't speak for the other players.

ludwig,
thank you

@Ludwig- good post!!! Maybe Phil had a plan for Blake, maybe he wanted to emberass him so bad, that he might explode and drop a triple double like he did against LA...

Im not saying that it might work, but hey if i was in Blakes shoes last night, i would get out there and prove to the team that i am no punk and can score and pass when i need to...

also why not put Tray J. in the game huh PHIL? that worked perfect in NOLA series, he came in and gave a big boost you should try that if Blake fails...

Troll man-

While the Lakers lost those series, and he had a weak game 7 second half, I would argue that Kobe's numbers show that he is no punk.

2006-2007 3-1
Totals: 5 games 5.2 Boards 4.4 Dimes 32.8 Points


2005-2006 4-3
Totals: 7 games 6.3 Boards 5.1 Dimes 27.9 Points

That was a much different team, and Kobe did the best with what he had. Kobe is a competitor, always has been, and always will be.

Cheers!

wow more Artest Bashing going on here...

did you guys forget last years finals?? did we win because of KOBE? no it was ARTEST clutching the 3 pointer, was it Kobe doing defense on Paul P.?? no it was ARTEST, you guys are so quick to forget who he really is, so what man, he did a hard foul and is paying the price, get ower it already, if it wasnt for Artest we wouldnt even come this far, sure he has his moments, but how about those momemts when he droppes the hammer on the rim and kisses his biceps..

you guys are too quick to forget!
REMEMBER .4 seconds on the clock down by a point in San Antonio, who came up big when everyone said Lakers had no chance!!!??? FISH!!!! it was DFISH!!

DONT BE SCARED LAKER FANS!!! JUST BELIVE! WE CAN DO THIS!! STOP HATING STOP BASHING PLAYERS!! LETS GET TOGETHER AND ENJOY THE MOMENT WHEN MARK CUBAN STARTS CRYING!!

It is wonderful to see all of you Laker Fans crying. I should say Faker Fans crying. Your butts are through; no championship for you this year. The Mavs are going to sweep you. If you are not swept you will certainly go fishing in six games. It it wonderful! I would almost pay money for this joy. Seeing the Lakers hang their heads in defeat is more pleasurable to me than an orgasm. I mean that!

The CHEAP SHOT Laker tradition continues... Robert Horry, Ron Artest... disgraceful. And the comments are just a reminder that Laker fans are trashy, uneducated and not basketball fans. Laker haters rejoice, Friday should be fun to watch the crying continue. Get out your brooms, this smells like a sweep.

at some point playing as many games as the lakers have in the past 4 years, the wear and tear come into play. the lakers peaked too early, and the look worn out.... their speed and flow is slow.... but to lose to the mavs is the worst.... i would have rather lost to memphis or okc.....

Artest, the maniac sicko, has returned. The Lakers are doomed.

LALakerz2133/Ludwig,
Talk to you on Monday 05-09-11 when our Lakers becomes officialy ex-champion.

Bad move by commish, deal with it in other ways, not playoffs
remember few yrs ago, stoudemire, suns/lakers, was 1st a 2 gamer
dropped to one, still took phoenix out of it. Its what the lake show
shoud of been doing all season, knock 'em down, send message
U can't be driving thru here !! Then don't have to in P/offs !!!


Beat LA is reality now, Zen mstr wanted to quit after last season

rafanico --

Even if the Lakers lose to Dallas, technically they won't become "ex-champions" until a new one is crowned, which won't happen until early June, and NOT on Monday.


You hear me, quitter???

Lakers are pulling a San Antonio move by peaking early during the regular Season and having nothing in the tank for the playoffs. I guess Jerry West was right when he said they were" a little long in the tooth". They are starting to show that after the first 2 games, they cannot keep up with the Mavs anymore. Kobe is no longer the one to single handedly take over a game and put the team on his back. Pau is showing signs of fatigue, Bynum is-well- the usual Bynum- always injured and not at full strength. Barring a major collapse by the Mavs at home, this series is over in no more than 6 games.

I don't know what play everyone else is watching, but Artest was trying to commit an intentional foul, but not a flagrant foul and certainly, he wasn't trying to hurt Barea.

Odom and Artest were trying to trap Barea in the backcourt to commit the intentional foul, Barea saw the double team coming, and faked a move to his right to split the double team. Both LO, who was on the left, and Artest on the right, bit on the fake and dove to middle to close the gap. Barea turned left, and Artest, who was trying to wrap Barea up, caught him in the head while trying at the same time to avoid a collision with Odom. It was a clear case of Artest over-committing to the play - he had his mind set that he had to commit the foul rather than allow Barea to dribble out the clock.

It was pretty clear by Artest's actions after the foul that it was not intentional. He tried to hold up Barea after the foul, he didn't stare him down and he didn't talk trash. The look on his face was clearly of disappointment, not accomplishment - he clearly knew that he misplayed Barea and that a suspension would be coming.

Sure, it was a hard foul that deserves a suspension. But to say that this was Ron-Ron melting down or that he had clear intentions of beheading Barea is stupid. It was nothing more than an aggressive that went badly.

 
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