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Kobe Bryant named to All-NBA first team; Pau Gasol makes second team

Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant reflects on the season while speaking to reporters at the team's practice facility in El Segundo on Wednesday. Credit: Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times / May 11, 2011.

This isn't the mark Kobe Bryant measures himself by in terms of his legacy.

But in a season that Bryant described as a "waste of his life," there's at least some solace to the Lakers getting swept in the Western Conference semifinals to the Dallas Mavericks. OK, well not really. But at least there's signs that the Lakers weren't entirely bad, even if they underachieved.

For the ninth time in his career and the sixth time in a row, Bryant was named to the All-NBA first team after finishing fifth in the league in scoring (25.3 points per game). Lakers forward Pau Gasol was named to the All-NBA second team for the first time in his career.

Despite the accolades, this by no means marked peak performances for either player. Bryant's 98 first-team votes from a panel of 119 sportswriters and broadcasters widely contrasts with the unanimous vote for Miami's LeBron James and the 118 votes each to Chicago's Derrick Rose and Orlando's Dwight Howard. Bryant's higher vote total than Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant (68) shows he's not on the downfall just yet. But Bryant's regular-season averages of 25.3 points in 33.9 minutes per game marked his lowest statistical output since the 2003-04 season, and his playoff averages of 22.9 points in 35.4 minutes marked his lowest mark since the 1999-2000 season.

Gasol's no stranger to being lumped with the likes of other All-NBA second team candidates in Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki, New York's Amare Stoudemire, Miami's Dwayne Wade and Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook. But the 2010-11 campaign also featured a self-admitted underachieving performance which saw Gasol fight inconsistency and fatigue throughout the regular season, and then unravel in the playoffs in both statistical production (13.1 points on 42% shooting), aggressiveness and frustration.

Surely, neither player will pat himself on the back for this award, nor should they. But it's at least a reminder that when we're talking about the Lakers' offseason moves they might need to make, the team isn't exactly fielding a team of scrubs.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant reflects on the season while speaking to reporters at the team's practice facility in El Segundo on Wednesday. Credit: Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times / May 11, 2011).

 
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Hope that by being all-NBA second team, this would enhance Pau's trade value...

Craziest thing? Andrew Bynum only got 11 votes. Al Horford got 62. He didn't even have the highest vote total amongst centers named Andrew. Andrew freakin Bogut (yes, that's his name!) got 13 votes. Beating out Drew. Andrew Bogut. Wow. Just wow...

2 morons even voted for Chris Bosh. Another one for Andrea Bargnani. For All-NBA. Yes, can't even make this stuff up...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

The national media feels that Gasol is among the top 10 players in the NBA. Although I'm a huge fan, I don't know if his regular season play this year merited such an honor.

However, the bash squad known as the LA Times staff writers have crucified the poor guy all year. Too nice? Too easy of a target?

IMO, I don't see how the guy can rebound from this past post-season in this town. Hopefully the Lakers will do him a favor and ship him out of town ASAP.

I'll keep harping on this. This team isn't done winning rings. Did they falter and underwhelm us all this year? Absoluetly, but in some ways this is better than if we had made it all the way to the NBA Finals and lost there. Better in that it offers the players the most honest and blunt criticism anyone can offer: You weren't playing as a unit, you were worrying about individual what-not, and as a result you lost to a team you really should have beaten. This ought to stick in their craw as much as it sticks in ours.


Besides, there's no good way to move the pieces we have. Gasol and Odom for Howard and Arenas? Please. First off the moeny doesn't match up and why would we want Arenas' albatross of a contract anyhow? For all his vaunted athelticism and highlight dunks and blocks the Magic flamed out earlier than we did this year. We exchange two dynamic, battle-tested vets who have more than a few good years left in the tank for a burned out SG and a C who is only as effective as the three point shooters on his team keep the oppossing defenders.


Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water, hmm?

My concern about Pau is the emotional/mental side of the game. Physical injuries typically heal, but mental injuries can linger.

How many times has a player come back physically and never recovered from the mental block of worrying about another injury? That was our concern about Drew and I must say I'm proud of how he's grown into a stronger player (notwithstanding his flagrant fouls) after so many unfortunate injuries.

How many times has a quality player suffered an emotional setback and never returned to their dominant stature?

Even Tiger Woods hasn't returned to his dominance since that whole marital debacle and I considered him more on the emotional/mental level of Kobe and MJ.

Pau is a romantic. He loves Opera, not Metallica. Probably enjoys a love story more than a war story. He's obviously fragile and has trouble separating his outside world from the court.

Kobe and MJ would release their off-court pain by punishing their opponents on the court. Whereas, Pau's off-court pain consumed him on the court causing him to shrink like a violet.

As fans, it's our job to be concerned, but support him if he's back next season.

A good sign will be how he performs with the Spanish National team. However, that will NOT be the tell all of whether he should remain a Laker. But, at a minimum his trade value will rise again if the Lakers believe that the team chemistry with Pau has been fractured beyond repair.

It's the Lakers team, staff and ownership that's best suited to determine whether or not Pau can function at optimum level for this team. Only they know what really went on behind the scenes and how permanent the damage will be.

Hopefully Pau will be back to his championship form for the Lakers next season.

For us now, it's just "Wait and See!"

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The real snub here: Kobe being first team and Wade being second team. Injustice and media bias at its best.

Kobe is very deserving. Although I don't know if he can hold off DWade for the 1st team much longer.


Pau definitely didn't deserve 2nd team....maybe 3rd team. Aldridge should've been bumped up to 2nd team. It'll be tough for Pau to make it next year after this playoff stinker.

After I click on post this window shows at the bottom of my comment:


"Comments are moderated and will not appear until approved by the author."


Well, since I am the author then I hereby approve all my comments so they can post instantly...

The only thing I take solace in with this (pre-mature) loss, and Derek Fisher touched on it in his exit interview, is that it's going to stick with this team like a bad rash through the off-season and into next season. It's going to be a stigma that will constantly serve as a rallying cry for this team next season.
I do believe it'll make this team stronger and more resilient next season.

Dedicated to the 2011-2012 Lakers' Season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ISLeHByD-I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Responding to a post about a trade under my name that was hijacked that I pointed out.

It might help if you guys read all the posts not just the ones you can disclaim. lol

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The problem is, your comment (the disclaimer) was not posted yet.
Because of the delay in posting comments no one knows what's been said until the group of comments are approved and posted.

MM, I guess this blog is no longer iPad friendly. First the videos stopped being accessible. Now I can no longer post. Clicking Preview or Post goes to a TypePad page stating that the page is unavailable.

I had to go to my computer to post today.

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B Scott is with the Cavs and has 2 more years, he is not a Laker head coach candidate.

The Cavs refused to give the Lakers permission to even talk to him and Scott has no "outs" in his contract.

I'm past denial but still working on confusion and anger. And I can't see acceptance coming along any time soon. This was completely and totally ridiculous, pitiful and otherwise insulting. I can't believe what I saw. (Ok - so maybe still some denial). Ugh. It's gonna be a very long summer.

Who the new coach will be is the decision I'm most interested in. Other than a HELL NO to Byron Scott or Stan Van Fatty, I'm torn. I'm leaning towards liking the idea of Shaw because I think it would be a mistake to go away from the system and main personnel we currently have. This team has gotten it done more times than not. I'm assuming that the bench inconsistency will be addressed and that Kobe will receive some help in the form of either a running mate in the backcourt or a deadly shooter. If that's the plan, then Shaw would be good for continuity. IMO.

Jamie Sweet - welcome back. Sorry to hear about your personal stuff, but glad to see you in better spirits. Great posts lately too!

hobbit - kudos on your (once yet again) excellent arguments putting Kobe bashers to shame. I just don't get all the hate for the ONE player who we've never had to question his heart, determination or drive to bring the Lakers to glory. It boggles the mind.

PSP - honestly you've got the wrong idea about the RC. It's just troll-less and unmoderated, so discussions are fast and furious, for the most part, and fun. ALL views are welcome but no one beats anyone over the head with theirs. But whatever - visit or not - up to you.

Edwin - I haven't seen Lew around lately... I think he's travelling. But I'll watch for him.

GO ANYONE BUT MIAMI!

Are you kidding me? Kobe got first team while Wade got second team. Has anybody been paying attention?

Craziest thing? Andrew Bynum only got 11 votes. Al Horford got 62. He didn't even have the highest vote total amongst centers named Andrew. Andrew freakin Bogut (yes, that's his name!) got 13 votes. Beating out Drew. Andrew Bogut. Wow. Just wow...

2 morons even voted for Chris Bosh. Another one for Andrea Bargnani. For All-NBA. Yes, can't even make this stuff up...

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | May 12, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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Cyber - remember Drew missed 30% of the season and only started 47 games. He was very good in the 2nd half of the season...but its a full season award. I think its a compliment to Drew that he got 11 votes. Bosh deserved more than just two votes after averaging 18/8 and playing 77 games.

i have a friend who is a editor for the press enterprise and sorces told him of a night 3 weeks ago when kobe shows up to gasol's house at 1am , with ball in hand and told him "lets play to 10. all out. if you've forgotten how to play the game then fine, thats what i'll tell the guys and we'll help you remember the fundamentals, but if you're head is somewhere else or you've lost your way then you need to find it cause we need you and you're not there.." apparently pau slammed the door in kobes face and that started a locker room tension fit that was damaging to the whole team...thats just what i heard..


@Corner J
EXCELLENT POST at 12:03! I agree with every word.

If we don't get at least two accurate shooters this summer, our off season will be disasterous. Even if we can swap Bynum or Pau for Howard, we are still left without a decent long range specialist, or any athletic defensive players who can make it over to wide open shooters.


I was at ACCEPTANCE roughly 3 hours after the game was over.

Kobe deserves All NBA first team. Gasol DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE ON ANY ALL NBA TEAM!!! Even though I really hope Pau's selection boosts his trade value!!! Hopeful Lakers can dump Pau Gasol and Bynum and get Dwight and maybe start Odom or somethin along those lines. Lakers wont be slow anymore because Dwight is athletic and fast for a 7 footer and Odom is one of the most atlethic power forwards in the NBA. Kobe is still pretty athletic, now L.A will not be slow anymore if this were to happen also PLEASE IM BEGGING U FISHER WILL ALL MY HEART; PLEASE RETIRE PLEASe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lakers need to blow up the bench with some shooters and maybe one or 2 atletic players. Deandre Jordan (from LAC) is on the market this summer and would be a great backup to Dwight and is SUPER Athletic. Maybe LAL should go after JR Smith or Aaron Afflalo for a much better backup shooting guard; because Shannon Brown is horrible and whenever he's in the game I'm always nervous because he is a turnover machine and he jacks up the most ridiculous bad shots (FYI Shannon U aint Kobe; u cant make those kind of tough shots!)

LRob: I see what you're saying, Drew wasn't around a full season. That's true.

But do you really feel that Bosh deserved any All-NBA votes at all? After all, to even receive a single vote you have to consider him to be top-3 at his position. Voting assigns points to your ranking, first team votes get 5 pts, second team get 3, third team votes get 1.

Therefore, not one but two sportswriters considered him the third-best power forward in the league. Does you actually think he deserved getting votes above any one of this group:
Pau
Amar'e
Dirk
Blake
K-Love
Z'Bo
Josh Smith
L.A.
Should I stop? That's not even throwing Duncan, Boozer or KG in there - which he just might be ahead of.

So, of those guys, who would you say he merited getting All-NBA votes ahead of? His game has clearly degenerated from his Toronto games, where I'll give you that he would have actually merited getting votes...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Now that Phil and his boring but effective (until the Mavs destroyed it) triangle offense is now history, I hope the Lakers will revert back to "Showtime" I hope they will not hire Brian Shaw as a coach and bring a tested, veteran coach in the Likes of Adelman, Sloan or Brown. Get a good point guard (make Fisher an Assistant Coach) and trade Odom and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

They don't separate small forwards and power forwards. For Bosh to have received votes, that means he was ranked at least the 6th best forward on some people's ballots.

Gasol and kobe both should have been second team. Gasol carried the lakers this season, he had a higher NBA efficientcy rating than kobe all year and had a higher rating in the semi-finals than kobe. As long as kobe is on the team, they will make the playoffs, but not win another championship. kobe is still behaving like the kid who caused the lakers to lose in 2004 because he refused to pass to Shaq. He did the same to Bynum in the playoffs. He said in the exit interview yesterday that he is number 1 and he takes his shots and Pau is #2 and Bynum has to get in line. Has anyone told kobe that the Lakers are not his team, it belongs to Los Angeles and he owes the fans the best TEAM performance possible? I realize he won't go up the total point list, by getting alot of assists, but it sure would be great for the fans to see one of the best passers be a team player. Lakers are stuck with kobe because of his no-trade clause, so it would be great for Bynum if he was traded to another team so he could develop to his full potential. I would love for Howard to come to the lakers because he is much more vocal that Shaq was and he would definitely set kobe straight. Finally, I'm sorry kobe feels he wasted one year of his life entertaining his fans. I'm sure many of them feel they wasted a year of their lives watching him underperform.

IF...


Deandre Jordan is being shopped, which I can't believe (can the Clippers be this dumb?... uh... yeah!), then Mitch should definitely pounce on this -- Jordan would be monumental improvement for the back-up position to Bynum.


Aaron Aflalo would be a great pick up as well. I aslo like JJ Riddick, a very good shooter and defender. Look at Jason Richardson as well, a very good 3-point shooter and a bad fit in Orlando.


Jordan and Riddick would make us younger and more athletic. JR Smith is a nutjob, I don't know if I would want him, in addition to the likes of Barnes and Artest, who I love by the way (without Artest the Lakers lose to Boston last year in game 7, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT)!

D Wade should be selected as 1st NBA team; not Kobe. Kobe should be named either 2nd team or 3rd team with Pau.

Kobe is more important to the Lakers than Wade is to the Heat. LeBron and Bosh would still win games in the East without Wade. I know that it is fashionable to call for Pau to be traded, but its not going to happen. Andrew Bynum is the one trade-able asset the Lakers have, and given his injury history and choice of comments is the more likely candidate if there is one in my opinion. Pau did have a good regular season, which is what the award is based on. There are just too many haters nowadays....

When exactly are we going back to instapost? This moderation thing sucks, can't carry on a conversation with the eminent members of this blog.

Funny thing is that 90% of the people that manipulated MM into this crazy moderation have bailed on us and now have their little 15 member rogue chat while we get to suffer for their "sensitivity".

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hmcsp wrote:

Gasol and kobe both should have been second team. Gasol carried the lakers this season, he had a higher NBA efficientcy rating than kobe all year and had a higher rating in the semi-finals than kobe.
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--Not true, put both of their season averages and what they had to do to get the seeding. Gasol carried the Lakers why because he was one of the most inconsistent Lakers and had below-career avg's after the first month of the season, eventhough Kobe had less minutes? Player-efficiency ratings vary from inaccurate to non-factor.. so since Luke Walton played a minute and got 1 assist but didn't play the rest of a week, was he more efficient than Bynum?

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hmcsp: As long as kobe is on the team, they will make the playoffs, but not win another championship.
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-But according to YOUR logic since we've had any combination of Kobe and another all-star, we've been relevant and had one of the better and most prolific scorers since Allen Iverson, MJ, and an additional 5 titles. Name me one guy you would have instead of him that can come even close to that. You can't from this era.

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hmcsp: kobe is still behaving like the kid who caused the lakers to lose in 2004 because he refused to pass to Shaq. He did the same to Bynum in the playoffs. He said in the exit interview yesterday that he is number 1 and he takes his shots and Pau is #2 and Bynum has to get in line.

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-Yet again we return to somebody singling out Kobe when the 'whole' team was out of sorts. The fact of the matter is, whether you like it or not, Kobe is not the same Kobe from 2004 who could dribble and knee-break and dish, because he was constantly double and triple teamed without any help (Bench?) You all of a sudden think people can turn back the clock by 7 years when they've been putting "it" on the line for like 15 years? Get off his jock-strap man.

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hmcsp: I would love for Howard to come to the lakers because he is much more vocal that Shaq was and he would definitely set kobe straight.
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-How vocal, they are literally the same guy, except Dwight has more work ethic his tenure with the Magic than Shaq's entire years in the NBA. Kobe needs to be reprimanded and put "in his place", which one, #6 scoring, #24 minutes all time? Most durable and missing the least amount of games in this era?

hmcsp: Finally, I'm sorry kobe feels he wasted one year of his life entertaining his fans. I'm sure many of them feel they wasted a year of their lives watching him underperform.
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-Where's the context here? He wasted one thousand minutes short of Michael's total chasing ring #6, to tie him but with you Kobe-throwers-under-the-bus it's not about what he could have done it's about what he did for "you", while he sacrificed more minutes and packed more: rebounds, assists, steals than any other season before this one. The level of inconsideration and lack of regard to Kobe is appalling. In closing, we all have to take a level of moderation when criticizing Kobe, like "hmcsp" who opted to give Pau-2011-Playoffs-no-show credit over the deficiencies of an entire roster. Another waste of a post that could have gone to addressing the future of the franchise instead of not letting go of the past.

You get Howard, Gasol, Arstest, Kobe, and any point guard who can defend 3-point shooters and these Lakers are unbeatable. Honestly I think Lakers should transfer Bynum, Odom and Blake for Howard and Nelson.

>>>Craziest thing? Andrew Bynum only got 11 votes

Andrew didn't play for half the year and played inconsistently when he did play.

There's a pundit who calls him Andrew Bi-weekly, because that's about as frequently as you'll get a Beastly game out of him.

If Andrew ever played like he did in the New Orleans series for a whole season, he'd be an All-Star, first team NBA, and maybe even in the MVP discussion.

>>>Deandre Jordan is being shopped, which I can't believe (can the Clippers be
>>>this dumb?... uh... yeah!), then Mitch should definitely pounce on this --
>>>Jordan would be monumental improvement for the back-up position to
>>>Bynum.

Jordan would be great, but he's a free agent and I bet he'll make more than the MLE. So he's out of the Lakers' price range.

>>>Aaron Aflalo would be a great pick up as well. I aslo like JJ Riddick, a very
>>>good shooter and defender.

Like both of those. Reddick has really improved his defense, unlike some other 3-point specialists like Jason Kapono and Kyle Korver. And Aflalo is very Trevor Ariza-esque.

One thing you may be neglecting is that we may have someone like that already on the team. Devin Ebanks suffered from Phil Jackson disease which kept him off the team most of this season, but he did display that kind of athleticism which could make him a good dedicated defender type.

>>>Look at Jason Richardson as well, a very good 3-point shooter and a bad
>>>fit in Orlando.

And a pretty bad defender. Kobe always lit him up.

The biggest joke is not that Gasol gets #2 team votes.
It's that LeBron gets more votes than DWade. There is no way Lebron is better than Dwayne.
These voters are all voting on reputation alone.

>>>hmcsp: As long as kobe is on the team, they will make the playoffs, but not
>>>win another championship.


Funny, that's EXACTLY what KL Beast and Gunner were spewing in 2007.

How'd that work out for them?

some other Kobe hater (they're out in force, aren't they) posted:

>>>he refused to pass to Shaq. He did the same to Bynum in the playoffs

So what you're saying is that the Lakers lost the series because Kobe took too many shots and didn't get the ball to the bigs enough. Is that right? Am I getting that correct?

So your conjecture is that if Kobe let Bynum and Gasol and Odom take more shots, then the Lakers would have won the series. Is that about right?

Exhibit 1: Game 3 vs Dallas:
Kobe - 8 for 16 shooting
Bynum - 9 for 16 shooting
Gasol - 5 for 13 shooting
Odom - 8 for 16 shooting
This was the game where Kobe took the LEAST shots and deferred to the bigs the most.
end result: Lakers lost by 6 points

Exhibit 2: Game 1 vs Dallas:
Kobe - 14 for 29 shooting
Bynum - 3 for 8 shooting
Gasol - 5 for 10 shooting
Odom - 5 for 10 shooting
This was the game where Kobe was most aggressive on offense, taking almost 3 times as many shots as the next Laker. Part of this was because the Dallas Bigs were pushing Bynum and Gasol off the block and they weren't fighting back.
End result - Lakers lose by 2... on a few 50-50 calls that all went in Dallas' favor (Pau fouled Dirk? Jason Kidd didn't foul Kobe? Chandler didn't foul Pau?)

So basically, they came closest to winning in the game where Kobe was the most aggressive. In the other 3 games Kobe DID WHAT YOU WANT and passedmore to the bigs, they still lost. Lost by more, if anything.

So your complaint is a big giant FAIL.

You get Howard, Gasol, Arstest, Kobe, and any point guard who can defend 3-point shooters and these Lakers are unbeatable. Honestly I think Lakers should transfer Bynum, Odom and Blake for Howard and Nelson.

Posted by: Calamar | May 12, 2011 at 04:49 PM
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That's what Barnes and Blake were brought here to do -- I'm pretty sure Nelson has had a bunch of injuries, including one during the 09 run if I'm not mistaken. Any trade for Howard would probably include Gilbert Arenas.. I would only make that deal for those 2. If I could trade Artest in the deal I would try to do it as well, since Odom can hit the open shot, then you can go about getting a Shane Battier or someone of that ilk to defend... likely go younger.. You could still add Nelson and he would be your PG but I'm not too sure he would go under "going younger".

The biggest joke is not that Gasol gets #2 team votes.
It's that LeBron gets more votes than DWade. There is no way Lebron is better than Dwayne.
These voters are all voting on reputation alone.

Posted by: Zopi | May 12, 2011 at 04:57 PM

Dude..Get real, LeBron and Wade should both make the first team, Kobe 2nd team. The NBA is a FRAUD.

G.Money all-troll first team. If I had a vote, which I do, because I see when teens, or young adults appear like the Sasquatch on blogs to celebrate not one, not two, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 -- premature dynasties after a 2nd round series win, and "when I say that.. I really mean that". Come back when you repeat uhh.. bro?

To PointForward:
You can put a spin on everyone's comments all you want to, but the truth is, unless kobe becomes a team player, the Lakers will not win another championship as long as he is a player on the team. If kobe makes it his goal to have the most assists in the next season, the Lakers will cruise to the finals, but we know his goal is to move up the total points ladder to heck with the rest of the team. Since you don't understand the EFF ratings, don't even comment on it. Moving forward, the Lakers need to look for a player that will make the Lakers exciting again.

To LongTimeLakerFan: You need to re-watch all the semi-final games. Kobe passed twice to Bynum in the Dallas series and both times Bynum was at the free throw line, never when he was near the basket. When you balance the shot attempts you keep the excitement level up for all the players on your team and your defense improves. kobe is supposed to be the team facilitator, not the team destroyer. Let's blame the media for the loss. They're the ones that called Bynum the MVP of the first series and kobe got "ticked off". The semi-final results were soooooo predictable.

To PointForward:
You can put a spin on everyone's comments all you want to, but the truth is, unless kobe becomes a team player, the Lakers will not win another championship as long as he is a player on the team. If kobe makes it his goal to have the most assists in the next season, the Lakers will cruise to the finals, but we know his goal is to move up the total points ladder to heck with the rest of the team. Since you don't understand the EFF ratings, don't even comment on it. Moving forward, the Lakers need to look for a player that will make the Lakers exciting again.

Posted by: hmcsp | May 12, 2011 at 07:04 PM
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Blame the sweep on Kobe while his team-mates were shooting career post-season lows while open? It is a very thin line from being the focal point of offense to a facilitator -- something he did dutifully a lot during the Hornet's series and we STILL went to 6 games. How many times do we remember not only Kobe but many instances, Steve Blake who is a pass-first player dish it out to Bynum or Gasol only to see them pass on open shots from less than 16 feet? He single-handedly put the Lakers back on the map by imposing his will with a bad ankle on game 5 of the Lakers vs Hornets series, because his team didn't step up, that we now regret he had to do then that sapped his energy for the Mavs series, and he STILL was able to perform game 4 of the Mavs...(where they were clearly, less fresh, outhustled by the Mavericks -with a bench that outscored our starting 5 by a 2:1 ratio.. no bench). How do you explain Deron Williams, CP3 averaging double-doubles and always falling short in the playoffs? I will answer it for you, they.had.no.second.offensive.option. Something Kobe has been good at doing for a very long time. If you understand the ratings, like any sensible person with a brain cell you would understand that.

Example: Rondo tends to have good "efficiency ratings" because much of his role in the Celtic's style is to pour energy for a full 40-48 minutes a) defending and b) dishing. Kobe at his age is less able to commit to defense, offense, penetration, even with the lack of balanced scoring, the Lakers were in at least 3 games during the Mavs series, almost winning 2, but they couldn't put an effort for 48mins. And not that he isn't able to but when you are double teamed on a consistent basis, and Gasol, or Artest, or Blake aren't hitting their shots, that's one less assist for you. That's how you judge player efficiency ratings.


In effect what I am saying, is really this simple, the triangle is not predicated on guards handling the rock, but on ball movement... so if you want to blame something blame the chemistry not Kobe.


LongTime --


Interesting, your 4:54 post. Didn't know Jordan was a free agent. I really like Riddick a lot, hope he's a Laker someday. The guy plays with a ton of heart. I know J-Rich is not a good defender, but he can shoot the 3 with the best of them, much like Peja actually. The Lakers need 3-point shooting in the worse way to compliment the inside/out game. Can you imagine HOW MUCH better Bynum would be if we actually had a couple legitimate 3-point shooters on this team?


Unreal.


Thanks.

amazing how they (media) think kobe is 1st team defense how many blocks did kobe get this yr? how many steal did he have? how many charges did took? the best man and off ball SG defenders in the league are( 1.)tony allen he help boston in 08 for the title playing tuff on kobe along with pierce( 2.) dwayne wade best blocking SG in the game (3.) i cant spell his name but plays for the thunders (4.) rudy gay(5.) delonta west very underrated (5.) ray allen (6.) kobe bryant(im a laker fan im just calling like it is) who played horriblre D all year long and during the playoffs player these are my picks it funny that kobe cant guard these guys but they can guard him

Lakers Starters Next Season:

Power Forward: Dwight Howard
Small Forward: Kevin Love

Center: Yao Ming or Manny Pacquiao (the first Filipino NBA player)

Shooting Guard: Kobe Bryant
Point Guard: Chris Paul

Bench: Odom, Artest, Blake Griffin, Brown, Steve Nash, Barnes, Fish (needs to retire already and show some dignity!!!)

Lakers should try to get Kevin Durant next 3 years or less!!!


wussup lakers fans no need 2 worry. i have the perfect scenerio. hire rick adelman, trade gasol artest and either fisher or blake for chris paul trevor ariza and emeka okafor. I need you guys to pass it along lets get mitch kupchak's attention and make this thing happen. with this trade we get youth, athleticism, and great 3 point shooting; all of the things the team was missing this year. And with okafor we will continue the length and great interior defense that we enjoyed the last couple of years.



wussup lakers fans no need 2 worry. i have the perfect scenerio. hire rick adelman, trade gasol artest and either fisher or blake for chris paul trevor ariza and emeka okafor. I need you guys to pass it along lets get mitch kupchak's attention and make this thing happen. with this trade we get youth, athleticism, and great 3 point shooting; all of the things the team was missing this year. And with okafor we will continue the length and great interior defense that we enjoyed the last couple of years.


Does nobody remember how Kobe caved and Pau stepped up in Game 7 of the finals last year. But for Pau, there wouldn't have been a championship to defend this year. Just saying...

Kobe bRyant is the man and cannot be touched, especially by LeBron James.

D Wade should of been All NBA over Kobe. At this stage in his career D Wade is a btter player. Kobe only has a better jumper that's it.


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