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Five things to take away from the Lakers' 98-92 Game 3 loss to Dallas Mavericks

61431336-2Other than the fourth-quarter collapses, which I detail here, and my belief that the Lakers can't come back from a 0-3 deficit, here are five other things to take away from the Lakers' 98-92 Game 3 loss Friday to the Dallas Mavericks.

1. Pau Gasol continues to unravel. It almost became too painful to watch. His 12-point performance on five-of-13 shooting featured him leaving Dirk Nowitzki wide open from three-point range, Phil Jackson berating and even pushing him on the sideline and his frustrations continuing to boil over. We have never seen Gasol operate at such a low level, and the reasons are beyond comprehension. He's had an inconsistent stretch this season starting with fatigue from filling in for Andrew Bynum during his 24-game absence while rehabbing his surgically repaired knee. That created a trickle-down effect where he mentally checked out in certain games, lacked aggressiveness and cut corners on defense. But his latest effort in Game 3 goes beyond much more than that.

Just when it seemed like he was turning around, by hitting a late jumper he left Nowitzki wide open on the next play. After taking a charge on Nowitzki, Gasol forced up a jumper. As much as the Lakers are frustrated with him, particularly Jackson, at this point pointing fingers at him and yelling at him is simply the equivalent of kicking a person while he's down. Believe me, he deserves all the criticism thrown at him right now and no one should be making excuses for him.

That's why I found it perplexing and distasteful to see his teammates provide positive reinforcement during Game 2, but realized during Game 3 that they simply don't have any other choice. For the practical purpose of giving the Lakers their best shot at winning Game 4, the Lakers can't make him feel any more fragile than he already is. Nonetheless, the responsibility falls on Gasol to shape up. Whatever is bothering Gasol mentally, he simply has to let it go. Unfortunately for the Lakers, this lack of confidence and aggressiveness came during the postseason, resulting in a playoff average of 13.6 points and 7.8 rebounds, a dropoff from his regular-season averages of 18.8 points and 7.8 rebounds.

2. The Lakers' defensive rotations remain an issue. Forget the final score. Take a look at the fourth-quarter collapses outlined here. The Lakers suffered defensively in Game 3 the same way they did in Game 2. When Dirk Nowitzki scored each of his 32 points on 12-of-19 shooting, he was either left wide open, causing frustrated looks afterward, or he made contested shots, eliciting the same reaction. Nowitzki is honestly going to score no matter what the Lakers do. That doesn't mean they don't defend him, but they can't get so consumed with how he scores because it's going to happen. The Lakers carried that same frustration with defending the perimeter, allowing Dallas' screen-and-rolls to throw the Lakers off base. Usually they were exceptional in rotating older on the first switch, but often failed miserably on the second.

3. Andrew Bynum backed up his strong words with strong play, but he didn't get the ball enough late in the game.The inescapable image of Bynum came at the end of the second quarter, when he capped off a steal with a fast-break two-handed slam. His 21 points on nine-of-16 effort and 10 rebounds backed up his comments following the Lakers' Game 2 loss when he revealed the team had "trust issues." I knew the quotes would get a lot of mileage, but his interview didn't really provide the illustration some painted him as a young, immature player losing his composure and pointing fingers. Bynum's always even-keeled and has zero filter so he was just being honest. He didn't name anyone specifically and spoke in general terms, even blaming himself on a poor defensive effort. And he expressed optimism that the team would fix it. Most importantly, he was right that the Lakers have trust issues, including defensive rotations, sharing the ball and not allowing Dallas' strong play to overwhelm them.

Still, it was good to see Bynum back up his words with his own strong play. It's puzzling, however, why the Lakers mysteriously went away from him in the fourth quarter, when he only had two field goal attempts. With how poorly the Lakers closed out in the last quarter, his production surely could've secured a win. Too bad not many of Bynum's teammates didn't live up to his calling.

4. Lamar Odom filled in nicely for Ron Artest at small forward. Odom's 18 points on eight of 16 shooting breathed some life in the Lakers' frontline, particularly with Gasol's struggles. With the exception of mishandling Derek Fisher's poor inbounds pass in the final seconds and missing a field goal late in the game, Odom provided the necessary hustle points and dependable shots that defined his game. Odom also struggled on defensive rotations, but then again so did everybody else.

5. Kobe Bryant played well except in the fourth quarter. The image of Bryant getting up and hugging Shannon Brown struck me because it epitomized the patient demeanor he's tried to display all series. With a few exceptions, Bryant has maintained an even keel throughout the series. As much as the Lakers should be criticized for not making the proper effort, Bryant clearly recognizes that some of his teammates, namely Gasol, are fragile, so from a pure practical standpoint, it would be counterproductive for him to unleash. He took a similar approach to the game where he picked his spots facilitating and scoring, playing always within the proper constructs of the offense.

-- Mark Medina

mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers power forward Pau Gasol looks to swipe the ball from Mavericks power forward Dirk Nowitzki as he drives down the lane in Game 3 on Friday night in Dallas. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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I think Drew Bynum should lobby to have kobe leave the lakers like kobe lobbying shaq to leave the lakers when shaq was on his downside now that kobe is CLEARLY on his downside...how ironic would that be?

As Jalen Rose so accurately stated on his post game NBA show, echoing the words of the late Howard Cosell "AND DOWN GOES FRAZIER". You can replace FRAZIER with THE LAKERS. The Lakers are through!

I got fences to mend and a corral to build. A good day to do hard work and keep my mind off some of this stuff.

Let's keep the faith and remember, its not over until Fatty says its over.

9-6-12.

That is how much the Mavs have outscored the Lakers by in the fourth quarter. Quite simply the Mavs are closing out games and the defending champs are not. It comes down to the same issues that have haunted the Lakers all year. Focus. Execution. Playing as a team.

The Lakers never committed to playing the right way all season. They thought they could turn it on come playoff time. They thought they’d win because they always had. They thought they could get into holes and recover, because they have before.

Complacency doesn’t always show up as lack of hustle. For this team it is lack of discipline. Not playing the right way. Not sacrificing for the team. Help D. Help the helper. Rotations that go a full 24 seconds, not 16. Setting up and going through the options on the offense. The Lakers’ are doing none of these things well. They’ve tuned out the coaching staff and gone on auto pilot. And they will be done playing very soon.

Full credit to the Mavs. Dirk is playing amazingly well. They have a bunch of shooters who can spread the floor. They are sharing the ball, playing tough D, pounding the boards and closing out games. They deserve this series. But the Lakers, if they were playing the right way, could have won. They went into the fourth quarter of every game within reach. They lead twice going into the fourth. That used to guarantee a Laker win. But the focus and execution aren’t there. Teamwork isn’t there, especially on defense. I guess trust isn’t there.

There are some roster tweaks that need to be made. But this team, as assembled, is good enough to win a title. If they wanted to enough to make the commitment.

Fatty,

Change of scenery will be good for the old and healthy Fatty, gone fishing will also be a good therapy too. I think they will win one more for the sake of the great run. To win the 5th, 6th and 7th.....well that is just asking too much from the God of Winning. He is tired of giving us victory after victory since 2008. After a certain point, even Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Osama Bin Ladin meet their destiny and suffer an ignominious defeat. We need to re-seed, plant more in order to harvest new crops for the future.

Edwin, by paying dues do you mean posting here for 4-5 years? check
So I don't know what you mean Edwin. I've always been too busy to be one of those 'hardcore 24/7' type bloggers but whatever.

BTW it's a bleacher report article, something you see in the side column of this very LA Times blog ====> if you take the time to look at it you'll find a lot of talented writers over there, it's a mixed-bag with some pretty knowledgeable people mixed in.

But, just for you Edwin, here's the article for your perusing pleasure displayed right here in the hallowed grounds of the LA Times Lakers blog!

Alert for LRob and for the squeamish that can't stomach my takes, this isn't for you!

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LA Lakers: Phil Jackson's Message Lost on Players
by CyberCoxmiX

After losing to the Dallas Mavericks on Friday, and after repeated struggles this season, it is apparent the Lakers have a problem. No, Kobe Bryant is not it problem. Nor is Pau Gasol. Derek Fisher. Ron Artest. Lamar Odom. No, none of the players are a problem individually, although certainly a number of players haven't brought-it to every game.

No, Phil Jackson is the problem. Well, not so much Phil per se, but his message. It is getting lost on the players.

After a certain number of years the message of successful coaches starts getting lost upon the team. Look at the great teams, those with long runs of excellence, you'll see that much like aging players a coaches message also begins to age. This does NOT mean that a coach is less effective - just that their message becomes less effective towards that particular collective group of players.

Much like Red Auerbach towards the end of the '60s Celtic runs, Pat Riley during Laker Showtime days (not so much Jackson in Chicago because GM Jerry Krause's ego was too big, he started believing his GM skills were superior to Michael Jordan's talent, so that great Bulls team had the curtain pulled down for them).

Great coaches, the greatest of the greats, have an innate sense that their time has come, that is why Jackson has been pretty adamant about this being the end of his Laker run. Win or lose. He sees the writing on the wall.

In addition, the triple-post offensive system the Lakers have been running under Phil lost a powerful voice when Tex Winter left the team a few years back. Winter was the architect and creator of the triangle, now you see little of the offense unless Fisher brings up the ball and initiates it and then only fleetingly, or on the backup squad who seem to stay truer to it a lot more than the starters.

Bryant literally becomes a player-coach much of the time, much like Magic Johnson was at times, waving and pointing on offense as he's dribbling. He has almost become a player-coach, much like Michael Jordan evolved after years under Jackson.

A veteran team that has made three consecutive runs to the NBA Finals should run like clockwork on offense, but they've moved so far away from that it looks more like the lack of cohesiveness you see at a rec game. The offense is broken. Freelancing becomes the norm and Laker post-players go long stretches of games without quality touches.

But problems haven't only shown themselves in the offense. Laker defense, which is normally a strong point for the team, has become a liability. Slow rotations and confusion on defense have led to bickering amongst players and coaches, something that has become routine event during timeouts. When Andrew Bynum suggests the team has "trust issues" it speaks as much about the players as it does the coaching staff.

Jackson has shown to be a master manipulator of talent. A coach that molds great teams into champions. 11 championships won, he is unquestionably the most successful coach in NBA history. His Indian-influenced philosophies and habit of letting players work themselves out of on-court problems are unique feature we may never see again in these days of hyper-management by coaches.

Jackson deserves to be recognized as not only one of the greatest in basketball history but in sports history. However, the messy situation he is leaving behind with the Lakers might move team management away from his style altogether, possibly keeping them from promoting his longtime protege and Laker 'coach in waiting' Brian Shaw.

Sure, winning cures all and if the Lakers do pull off something unprecedented by becoming the first team in NBA history to rally back from an 0-3 deficit people will forget all the problems. A Laker loss though will ensure it will be happy trails to Jackson and possibly much of his coaching staff.

Jackson's legacy is secure. Ideally though, Jackson wants to win this title as a perfect career-capper. An even dozen rings, broken up into 4 threepeats. Jackson has spoken of 12 being a 'holy' number, and for someone like Jackson that is a significant event. May Laker failure then fuel his return to the game, possibly as rumored to the team he played with, the New York Knicks and a chance to mold a couple of young superstars, Amar'e Stoudamire and Carmelo Anthony into champions, much like he did with Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal with the Lakers, as he did previously with Jordan and Scottie Pippen?

Phil seems to do things in three. However, in order to continue his three's he will need to win this championship. As the inevitable begins to dawn and the Lakers find themselves eliminated from the playoffs this may serve as more motivation than Jackson might have otherwise had to return and redeem himself.

As for the Lakers, win or lose, as Jackson rides into the sunset we may very well not see his hand-picked successor carry on his legacy as expected. Proven horses need proven jockey's, and the Lakers are a proven, veteran team who have only a couple of years left with of Bryant ability to perform at a high-level. Therefore, a veteran, proven coach may be necessary to right the ship.

Jerry Sloan, where are you?

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AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Drew went 8-11 in game 2. 8-11. If your big guy is scoring with that kind of efficiency he needs more attempts.


He dominated the first half in game 3. Still..... The Lakers lack the will and skill to go him when the game was on the line.


I know Kobe used to be able to will them to finish off a big win all by himself. But great as he is, he can't do that anymore. time has taken its toll. Drew's inside dominance needs to become part of the Lakers' fourth quarter plan of attack.

I'm wondering when our local media will finally attribute blame where it is due...Mitch Kupchak.

Kobe once said there was a pecking order on the team, a totem pole. Teams like Miami and Dallas seem to share the ball and allow all players equal chance to score.

Kobe's philosophy about a pecking order is flawed, only because we relied on a mentally soft Pau as our 2nd option, which went on to cause a ripple effect. I think if all players had the greenlight to take good shots, we'd have a more balanced offensive flow.

Kobe should take the bulk of the shots because he's the best shooter, but after that, there should be no particular pecking order to things.

Watching Pau in these playoffs actually hurts. It could be life threatening.


I don't think Pau is done. He is a great player and he will play that way again. But, as Norm McDonald says, What the H? What is going on with him? In the fourth quarter when he had a 15 footer with 3 seconds left on the shot clock but instead passed to Kobe wayyy behind the 3-point line I just thought (dirty word) his (dirty word ) heart just isn't in this. I know that was late in these playoffs to think that. But it was such a simple thing for Pau to face up and shoot. And he didn't. What the H?

Now we see the real Zen Master, when confronted with adversity. Phil was outcoached by Rick Carlisle as much as his team was outplayed by Dallas. The cool Phil is not so cool when things don't go his way. Hitting Pau would get him fired at a high school or college level. Yea, Phil has 13 rings, including 2 as a insignificant bench player on the Walt Frazier / Willis Reed led Knick teams. His 11 as a coach were because of Michael, Kobe, and Shaq - not so hard when you have the best players in the game. Now that the Lakers have declined to just a good team, the real Phil can't hack it against other talented teams. Time to rebuild with a coach who can't hand pick his team!

GREETINGS COACH JACKSON AND LAKERS. I LOVE YOU GUYS. I'M STILL PROUD OF YOU GUYS. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. GOD BLESS YOU'LL. ROMANS 8:28 GENESIS 18:14

mavs (jump shooting team) 24 - 29 FTs
lakers (shooting mostly in the lane) 11 - 14

tired of seeing our guys get mugged left and right, and seeing tick tack fouls on the other end.....

It's easy to root for a team when you think they're going to win. Real fans root even when they know the odds are against their team.

MM, good points about Drew.

LAKERS BABY!

WTH, someone has to do it sometime, don't they!

kobe makes too many stupid decisions and everybody who is a media laker fan is too scared to say that he is ruining the team. he is not ballhogging but he is taking stupid shots and bynum got 2 less touches down the stretch of the fourth quarter of game 3 than ron artest. it's a shame beacuse l.a. has better coach and team but they fail to use their weapons

It is sad to see Phil go out this way. He deserves better. I'm not ready yet to write my eulogy for Phil's coaching career, that will come after this open sore has healed, but his career has been a wonderful and unique thing. Phil has had a way of helping teams find their own way to greatness.


This group, this year has been focused on other things and never found their way. Phil used his usual strategy. Patience. Prodding. More patience. A sarcastic remark here and there. They seemed to click in after the all-star break, but it was an illusion. And maybe a dangerous re-inforcement of the team's dangerous belief that, if they just really felt like it, they could beat anybody.


Phil's way didn't work this year. He's going out in a flaming disaster. It's a shame. He is the best coach I have seen in my long life watching the NBA.

The lakers need Kobe to dribble-penetrate and either dish, score or get to the foul line. They have taken it too far in terms of dropping the ball in the post. While Bynum is able to get deep position, Gasol is not and is unable to back down his man to get closer for a higher percentage shot.

Kobe needs to be more aggressive when he has the ball and not wait for a double team just to pass the ball to someone who can't make a shot. I can't believe he hasn't and is not using his dribble to get past Kidd. A wasted opportunity of a season but getting swept would be an embarrasment.

kobe hates having to throw the ball into the post ie like with shaq. that's why the lakers lost the detroit series and one of the reasons they will lose this. it is past time to bench bryant.

I cracked up when I read this line by Andy Kamanetzky talking about Drew's game last night.

"If anything, the biggest knock on his performance might have been his failure to bum rush the perimeter and physically rip the ball out of the hands of teammates not looking in his direction down the stretch. Story of the season, right? "

Hey we're going to have a live chat at 5 p.m. today during the Heat-Celtics game.

doing some quick research, looks like the last team to be in 4 straight NBA finals were the Celtics of the 60's. the boys (well, the core) are out of gas. 4th time around in another long, demanding season. and they've looked that way from the first post-season tip-off. no matter, it will be good entertainment to see who finally scrambles to the top of the heap. i'm picking Miami...

ok Lakers, you have one more chance tomorrow, it's a long shot, BUT.....if you want to win tomorrow, do ONE THING, defend the THREE. that's what cost you the game last night. dallas took 29 shots from3-land. you were always out of position OR not position to defend. at times, it looked like a "chinese fire drill" the way you were scrambling around like a bunch of idiots. secondly, you're two-time defending nba champs....did you forget how to close games out? 'nuf said!

Don't know what bothers me more. The Lakers losing or the ever increasing prospects that the Heat will win the title.

Let the post season questions begin. How do we rebuild the roster? What comes first, the new coach or the rebuilding? Who's the new coach? Can this group win another title, yet a year older and slower? Is Pau's play indicative of what to expect in the future or is he going through some emotional trauma not related to basketball? So many questions, so few answers. Oh and one more comment. I hope this series ends the clamor for Cuban as the new owner of the Dodgers. Can't see him in LA - at least not as long as he owns the Mavs.

BYNUM IS OUR FUTURE!

I like the Lakers chances of making history; they already did it last night by handing Phil Jackson his first 0-3 deficit. We need to carry this momentum over and win the next 4. Just 12 more W's.....optimism never hurt anyone; unless you count that one time that...

was rather heartbreaking to see bynum take matters himself. then he got ignored when it mattered, kinda ironic, the last few years he wasnt but %50 healthy, this year he a go and they south pole him. he is a warrior. but even though they say dont point fingers, you kinda have to. gasol scrwed us lakeshow loyals, he single handedly has cost us the three fingers. his effortless play is why we are the laughing stock this summer. shame ...full of shame.. he is not a laker and i wont ever forgive him.

lamont you dont know the sport and you sound ridiculous. it is even harder to successfully coach such talent, what he did with kobe and shaqs egos was amazing. jordan was worse than those two, any player who played beside jordan will tell you his ego and arrogance were intolerable. and its not our coaching. its one player and one player only, pau has ruined our title run by un professional sloppyness. look at the numbers and you will see that if he even gave half the effort as the last three seasons we are blow out winners ...the fundamentals of this glorious game and the players that made us awe are the one thing phil was made of..

Laker fan since Elg and Jer! Laker fan yesterday, today and tomorrow! Does anyone remember the Red Sox in 2004 against the Yankees down 0-3? I DO! Let's make NBA history Lakers!

The Lakers need youth and better bench depth. The difference in this series has been a lack of bench production for the Lakers. The Lakers have lead in the fourth quarter of every game this series. The bench has not given the starters anything, despite Gasol reverting back to his '08 Ga-soft performance against the Celtics. If he is distraught over the break up with his fiance, he needs to take it out on Dirk and put the ball on the floor and go right at him. The Lakers can win this series but either the bench or Gasol needs to produce.

doing some quick research, looks like the last team to be in 4 straight NBA finals were the Celtics of the 60's. the boys (well, the core) are out of gas. 4th time around in another long, demanding season. and they've looked that way from the first post-season tip-off. no matter, it will be good entertainment to see who finally scrambles to the top of the heap. i'm picking Miami...

Posted by: eggs_are_coolin" | May 07, 2011 at 09:55 AM

Where do you do your research?

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They can have my Laker cap when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!

After a certain point, even Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Osama Bin Ladin meet their destiny and suffer an ignominious defeat. We need to re-seed, plant more in order to harvest new crops for the future.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 07, 2011 at 09:25 AM

Sounds like a fair comparison to the icons you listed,
but when do the Lakers ever plant seeds and grow a team?
With the league's help and blessing,
isn't the normal Laker M.O. just to go out and steal already grown
or obviously super-high potential players from other teams?
Isn't that what you talk about doing everyday, here?

Lakers are toast. Maybe the new CBA will help level the playing field
somewhat and keep them that way for a few years.

It's over. Good.
Time to revel in bogus accomplishments from the past.
That's all you're going to have for a while.

cyber that was possibly the most accurate post to date..all you loud mouths and so called FANS OF THE GAME should listen up. you might learn something.( of course that was in no way directed to any of my beloved lakeshow loyals).

There's no way I would have ever predicted such a colossal failure by a once great team. I kept thinking, "Come on, come on!," to absolutely no avail. In addition to the widely observed "Why the hell didn't Drew get the ball later in the game," "Who's this Last Starfighter bad clone version of Pau Gasol?," and "it really wouldn't [bad word] hurt to stay close to home on Dallas' three point shooters," the thing that most blows me away is what incredibly poor execution this extraordinarily experienced team has had.

Did the last few fourth quarters really happen? Did we really foul and blow possession after possession with leads with minutes to go? On a Phil Jackson coached team? With Kobe making some of the mistakes? It's incomprehensible. And the stats speak to it. Phil has NEVER been down 3-0 in a playoff series.

Whether the team is just out of gas or whether Mark Cuban paid each Laker 100M to just stop caring, the whole thing smells like a dead fish.

Our late Rick Friedman and Phil Jackson both deserve far better send-offs.

What do I want, er, demand? We come back and win this series and play ball worthy of this vaunted franchise, of the great legacies of its players and play like we mean it, to within at least 90 percent of our potential. Right now it feels like 40 percent at best. Right now it feels like we could only win if Kobe scores 82. Right now it feels like how Dallas must have felt in the 2006 Finals, but we can't even blame the horrific officiating.

This sucks. Somebody please make it better.

The Lakers just are not strong fundamentally

Silly fouls
poor passing skills
unable to read defenses
unable to read offensive mismatches

They have won on talent, not brains.


Lakers suck

You've heard of the Tiger Slam?

LAKER SLAM

win the next and we'll go from there.

just what was that fisher air ball layup on the fastbreak anyway?

he had gasol to pass to.

It's what I said, fundamentals.

"Where do you do your research?"

ok, i missed one, the Lakers '82-'85. the adjective was a disclaimer if i was wrong. still won't help the Lakers.

Cyber,

No squeamishness here. What I meant was I had read all of the different breakdowns on yesterday's game.

As far as a coach message growing old on the same ears, that's been well documented, so I agree with that. Just like the difficulty of championship teams repeating and 3peating have been well documented.

You win as a team and lose as a team. Thus far the Lakers have loss two games to the Mavs that they could've won if ANY of the players had made a couple of more plays. The blame always start at the top and trickles down. Front office first, coaches second and players third.

Obviously if the Lakers don't get out of this series then changes will be made. I respect Jerry Sloan accomplishments as a coach...but I don't believe he's the answer.

MM, you're a saint for moderating this blog, cause without it all these trolls would have nowhere to have their catharsis, I mean other than kicking their dog, beating their spouse, or paying $300 an hour to some shrink. So bless you, MM.

As for the Lakers, there's not much more to say that hasn't been said already. Their fatal flaws are too evident, and have been for a long time. No need to pile on.

For the first time ever, however, and in spite of all the evidence to date, I happen to agree with TJ Simers. As improbable as it may seem, there really is a chance that the Lakers could become the first team in NBA history to come back from an 0-3 start. It really does take only one win to get the whole unraveling of the Mavs to happen. They are NOT as good as they have been playing thus far. And the Lakers are not as bad as they have been playing so far. A Laker win in Game 4 would really start getting into the Mavs' heads. This is no wishful thinking joke. They'll start remembering the way they crumbled in the past. 3-pt swishes will start becoming bricks and airballs. The Lakers just need to win ONE, and it will start.

I'm in it to win it, baby. Laker Amigos, LET'S RIDE!!!

1. That the refs have and will never give the Lakers a break. There is no home field advantage at the Lakers Center. It's been shown year after year that the Hack a Lakers will never been called.

2. That the Lakers are in fact human and couldn't play through the Refs this year.

3. That the Lakers thought having all big men and no shooters was a "good idea".

4. That NBA is in fact rigged and Stern has had it out for the Lakers for years. If it was up to Stern and the Ref's Lakers wouldn't have won the last two titles.

5. NBA=WWE (ref's are the best team in the league.)

The 5 things to take away from this series.

A bonus 6... That the NBA would chose a team who can't even sell out their playoff games against the Lakers shows that Stern had the bets in. I wonder how many billions he's personally made betting against the "sure thing".

I hope Gasol never makes the Hall of Fame after this horrid playoff performance

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As far as Kobe, against Dallas his shooting is way up, nearly 50%. He tried scoring in game one, 14-29. In the second game he had 5 steals plus 3 assists and 9-20. Last night he led team with 6 assists and was 8-16. Time for anybody else to stand up (Gasol, Fisher, Artest, Brown, Blake, Barnes)!!

Shalom, Laker Nation. I'm back.

If you didn't know, I hate Mark Cuban. I know (that) hate is a strong word, but I use this against a strong man.

Final score Lakers 4, Mavs 3.

I've asked Phil to ask Kobe to activate.

I wrote on this blog before, Bynum is the guy who can carry this Lakers team to NBA Finals, but Phil & Kobe did not accept the truth, they only need Bynum for a while. How can we win a game in the last 2min with Kobe who can't shoot over 38 years old Jason Kidd ?Last night, PJ turned to Odom and failed in the last min. PJ did not see one thing Odom never is a dominated player who can win a game by himself.
Lakers fan wants Howard, you have to make sure who will be leader in this Lakers team Howard or Kobe ? who will take the last shot? or another problems will come. Does Kobe accept the truth is that he is old or he still want to be the leader with 30 mil a year?
The owner of San Antonio said that if we are going down we want to go down with Tim Duncan, wrong, the San Antonio lost because they had a bad trade for Jefferson.
Before the series start, Kobe should tell Bynum that i need you to win the game for us, and i will pass the ball to you, that's the way smart player does. Lakers is going down because Phil&Kobe.

ok, i missed one, the Lakers '82-'85. the adjective was a disclaimer if i was wrong. still won't help the Lakers.

Posted by: eggs_are_coolin' | May 07, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Ill help you out ... The Celtics '84-'87!

I actually feel sorry for Gasol. Something's going on and no one knows what it is. You can see it in his eyes. I don't blame Phil for trying to wake him up last night, but Pau seems to have tuned him out. Clearly, Kobe's ability to get through to him has been diminished.

Whatever happens, people, don't forget that in the 39 months No. 16 has been with LA, the Lakers have been to 3 Finals and added 2 more banners. That's quite a return on investment.

LA will be playing basketball Sunday. Let's see what happens from there.

I think at least two out of these three games, the Mavs didnt win them. The Lakers just lost 'em.

1. That the refs have and will never give the Lakers a break. There is no home field advantage at the Lakers Center. It's been shown year after year that the Hack a Lakers will never been called.

2. That the Lakers are in fact human and couldn't play through the Refs this year.

3. That the Lakers thought having all big men and no shooters was a "good idea".

4. That NBA is in fact rigged and Stern has had it out for the Lakers for years. If it was up to Stern and the Ref's Lakers wouldn't have won the last two titles.

5. NBA=WWE (ref's are the best team in the league.)

The 5 things to take away from this series.

A bonus 6... That the NBA would chose a team who can't even sell out their playoff games against the Lakers shows that Stern had the bets in. I wonder how many billions he's personally made betting against the "sure thing".

Posted by: micheal | May 07, 2011 at 10:34 AM

micheal, I agree with your assessment.

The refs are the difference in this series, at least until now. Lakers will win the next 4, and the Championship.

I'm die hard Laker fan. I'm a die hard Kobe fan. Nothing will sway me from being otherwise.

"Ill help you out ... The Celtics '84-'87!"

3 stars, it's your big day. have any worthwhile comments or do you just lurk?

I've been off this blog for a while (some might say "banned" by the K-bros) and reading some of the post here after the Lakers won 2 straight titles and 3 consecutive final appearances (thanks to Gasol)...it's the same old crap by crazy laker fans (crazy kobe fans too).

Chill out fellas, it's just a game. Enjoy the NBA and it's new stars (Wade, LBJ, Rose, Durant, Westbrook, etc.)

Lakers had a good run and now it's a "changing of the guard".

In one of the iterviews before Game 3, Gasol kinda said that "I will try to be more agressive, if possible"


"IF POSSIBLE"????? What the.........!!!!!!

BTW, Ballhog Bryant wasn't doing crap without Pau/Bynum et al...

The C's are toast as well...

Miami v. Dallas part II?

Cyber,

I am sorry if I misunderstood your advertising your link as if you are leading us there. If it was a good intention without necessarily advertising a new business, a new blog from you, then my bad.

I disagree that Phil is the problem. He did his best to neutralize the mighty perimeter offense of Dallas but it's good as it gets with the players that you have. We saw yesterday the improvement of offense and defense but Dallas was just connecting in the perimeter. Lakers could not find a defense on the long ball which is really hard to defend if they are doubling someone whether it is Dirk, Jason, Kidd or Peja and that sudden new Mavs craze, Stevenson.

It was so interesting to see Phil thump Gasol in the chest last night.

You don't see Phil lose it like that and I thought that this was the first time that Phil showed he cared.

He cares about his legacy and he has tried to coach this team with respect to the players extra-curricular activities.

Unfortunately, the players for the most part have let him down. It is incumbent on the players to give 100% effort to their profession. Outside influences whether it be business or personal should not interfere with this effort.

I tend to bash phil alot, but he does not deserve what his players are giving him right now. they should be ashamed.

Unfortunately for the Lakers, there is one more game to play,
which means that Bynum can still get injured.

May as well sit him out.

3 stars, it's your big day. have any worthwhile comments or do you just lurk?

Posted by: eggs_are_coolin' | May 07, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I have plenty of comments. Im just not sure you want to read them. Im trying not to pile on Laker fan.

BTW, thanks for the stars!!!

ANOTHER THING

THE REFS REALLY ARE CORRUPT.

There really is a double standard

guess you can't have a team in the playoffs whose star player has potty mouth and insults sodom and gomorrah citizens.

The Judge,

You address a post to me but this is the first time I read your handle. Should I be complicit to put credence on new handles in this blog. Man, too many handles, too many opinions while we just maintain one handle with a conviction that we own it whatever good or bad opinion, good or bad grammar spilled out there.

Whoever is putting too many handles, too many personalities, it's time to be more serious in conducting conversation. Why do you hide like an Al Qaeda? If you want to be respected, then own just one handle like Corner J, DJ, troy, Lrob or anybody here, Must we go with your adventure of blogging through multiple identities?

"MM, you're a saint for moderating this blog, cause without it all these trolls would have nowhere to have their catharsis, I mean other than kicking their dog, beating their spouse, or paying $300 an hour to some shrink. So bless you, MM...
"Posted by: CornerJ | May 07, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Ah yes...and it's so delicious.
Day after day after day after day, week after week after week after week,
month after month after month after month, year after...well, you get the picture, of immeasurable Laker fan and player arrogance...

Just consider it our pleasure to share our joy with you.
Really...our pleasure.

And what are you smoking, anyway?

"Im trying not to pile on Laker fan."

I believe the proper English is, "Im trying not to pile on Laker fans." Maybe you're right...


Pau show some Spaniard pride, positive aspects of machismo such as courage, honor, respect for the game.Spain bows its head in shame at this man-child 'disgrace'.

Sally you are on point. Carry on with your insightful comments.

KL Beast,

C'mon, give Bryant the credit as well, his ball hog were evident with one or two shots but he was facilitating and distributing the ball in the first three quarters. Sometimes, those long ball sailed at the expiring minutes of possession. As I said, he wants to win but his wants are also misdirected. He trust his teammates at times and when they're not producing much, he trusts himself or his shooting.

Shall we believe u and Island Priest to put down on Kobe. Well....ummmp like Gunner since you disappeared in 2007, Lakers went to three consecutive Finals and two Championship. No word from you nor Gunner at the height of imminent growth in the totenpole. Now that the Lakers are losing grip and about to fall down, suddenly you are like a dandelion weed that suddenly sprung on the ground during springtime. KL, Gunner, Island Priest how can you ever be a beneficial plant in this blog? A worthy of respect for all your posts and analysis, where is the credibility my friend.

I believe the proper English is, "Im trying not to pile on Laker fans." Maybe you're right...

Posted by: eggs_are_coolin' | May 07, 2011 at 11:11 AM

You also believed that the last team to go to 4 straight Finals was the Celtics of the 60s! Then you believed it was the '82-'85 Lakers!!

Dont be mad at me ... be mad at your team!! Its not my fault they are about to get swept. If it was up to me, they would never win a game!!

Troll Man, you don't have to thump a chest to show you care. Phil has always cared, you just don't get it or understand. Critics of the Laker coaches or players at this point should be ashamed of themselves. I understand the envy that brings out certain comments about the Lakers, but beyond that it just makes no sense. Be frustrated with their play, perplexed by Gasol, but really that's it. Look what they have given of themselves the last few years. Three straight trips to the finals, 2 Larry O'Brien trophy's, 76 additional playoff games during that time which is equivalent to an additional full other NBA season. While all other NBA clubs would kill to trade for that, Laker fans, haters, and critics alike just pile on while they can. So go ahead and take out your miserable lives on the Lakers. I guess it is therapy for you to make it through your day, and to bring the team I love down to your daily low pathetic level. Have a nice day!

Bluesky you are a genius I said that couple days ago. In fact he needs to drive to Bynum's mansion and go up to his front door. Most likely Bynum will not let him in but he should talk to him through the door. Kobe should say big guy I trust you and I love you and tomorrow's game I will gladly share 40% of my shots with you. LA needs you and I need you tomorrow.

Ironically, I actually feel great! I can now actually ENJOY the rest of the playoffs now, without the Lakers and the frustration they bring. I can relax and just enjoy the games, instead of being so tense, upset, and angry.

I'm backing/cheering any team that can take out the Heat.

The worst of it is over for me. No way I'm looking at that Sunday game. Spend time with the wife and mom, my kid. Enjoy my day. No more Lakers stress for me.

Bring on the rest of the playoffs!!

who said i was mad? i'm doing 3 or 4 other things online and didn't spend the time. you could have corrected me after my first post, and that would have been it, but you were looking for a gotcha. i'm not mad at the lakers. i could tell from their first game with new orleans that they didn't have their zip, and gasol's funk is anybody's guess. but cuban will never be a jerry buss, and if the mavericks win, they could easily fold their next series. anyway, the lakers have 17 titles, the mavs have...0.

"The Judge,

You address a post to me but this is the first time I read your handle. Should I be complicit to put credence on new handles in this blog...

...If you want to be respected, then own just one handle like Corner J, DJ, troy, Lrob or anybody here, Must we go with your adventure of blogging through multiple identities?"

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 07, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Yep...the first time, and it may be the last...never know.
But, F.Y.I., there are probably thousands of people who read this board,
who never post...I may have been one of them, maybe not. I may have one handle, or maybe a thousand...what you 'put creedence on' is up to you.

I am familiar with all of the regular posters you cited, and they are decent...
fans of the wrong team, but decent. I include you in that bunch.

But please, as far as respect goes...
I receive true respect in abundance, I assure you.
Don't belittle that respect by equating it with anything the twits on this board
may cite as a measurement of it.

Your team isn't very good.
Saw this coming a long time ago.
It will be a few years before the league will put you back on top again.
I am happy today.

Isn't time to stop this stupid attach on Pau!!! Isn't time to blame everything on Pau???? Us true fans still believe in you Pau...you are a champ and always will be! no matter what the outcome of this series will be....we BELIEVE in you! Pau helped us win two championships BACK TO BACK!!! and this is what he gets in return ..just not right. ...oh that's right we LA fans expect a championship every year for EVER!!! how stupid is that. Stand by your team and your champs like Kobe does and like he did in the post game interview...that's what true champs do...
I hope Pau proves all his critics wrong in game 4....and comes back like the champ he is.

Show them Pau....you're the man!!! you're a champ!

The only reason I'll go with Simers on this is that this the Mavs and as good as Dirk is playing, they're really not beating us as much as we're letting them win. If the Lakers can manage to play a full 48 min. and grab a W, they get to come home and play here and possibly get another. If the Mavs revert to norm, we'd be in their head for game 6 (which would be a miracle to win...of all the cases where someone tried to come back from a 0-3 defecit, there are quite a few where game 6 was close). So if the LAkers can force a game 7, then all bets are off.

As far as off-season goes, if Gasol is going to continue to play like this, then trade him and get some shooters. Sounds callous given the success we've had with him but if he's not going to man up (and there's no guarantee he will after this) then he can be a girl somewhere else. If anything, for all of you who are hellbent on Dhoward coming here, then put Gasol front and center in a package to get him. Keep Drew here since he seems to be the only Laker who wants to play with any effort night in and night out.

Troy, it sounds to me like you are a typical "bandwagon" fan! Only like the good times, and can't be bothered with anything else. Enjoy your day off tomorrow, and the rest of the playoff's. Who are you rooting for now?

I knew at the beginning of the season, the biggest key to success this year was Steve Blake. Could he make up for the loss of Jordan Farmar off the bench. Jordan's quickness on offense, his 3 point shooting, his punch off the bench. The answer is a resounding "NO". Blake and Theo were complete busts this year. Matt Barnes did very well until he hurt his knee, just wasn't the same after coming back. And Shannon just wasn't good enough to fill the void of zero production from Blake, and the loss of Farmar's offense.
It looked good on paper, but Mitch's off season moves just didn't work...it happens. I've felt all along that this team wasn't going to be good enough to win the finals, although I suspected we would be good enough to make it there. Hats off the the Mav's, they have out played us in all 3 fourth quarters...they deserve to move on. With a young Kobe Bryant I wouldn't count the Lakers out just yet, but there is no coming back from this one...to big a hill to climb. It is a no win situation I'm afraid.
I can't help but wonder if AB's late start this year(because he delayed surgery) has helped contribute to Pau's poor play late in the season. He looks worn out quite frankly.
It's been a nice run. I was hoping Kobe would get his 6th ring this year because I felt it was his best chance to do so. With the Cheat dynasty just starting, young Juggernaut teams like OKC, it will be very difficult for the Lakers in the upcoming years due to their current contracts. But we shall see. We still are a great team going into next year and we'll see what Mitch can come up with.
I'm very proud of this team and what it has accomplished these last 4 years...GO LAKERS

The Judge,

What an appropriate new handle son, since that's what you love to do.


Life is good.

Tomorrow I get to watch Manny knock out someone
who's never been knocked out before...

and then the following day, I get to watch the Bynum show
get crucified on the basketball court.

Does it get any sweeter?

ho said i was mad? i'm doing 3 or 4 other things online and didn't spend the time. you could have corrected me after my first post, and that would have been it, but you were looking for a gotcha. i'm not mad at the lakers. i could tell from their first game with new orleans that they didn't have their zip, and gasol's funk is anybody's guess. but cuban will never be a jerry buss, and if the mavericks win, they could easily fold their next series. anyway, the lakers have 17 titles, the mavs have...0.

Posted by: eggs_are_coolin' | May 07, 2011 at 12:02 PM

Hate to correct you again but the Lakers have 16!

Not that Im a Mavs fan or anything but what is a Jerry Buss? And why cant Cuban be one?

Seems like a bad day for Spaniards.

Seve Ballesteros dead at age 54.

Just remember the facts:

No Pau = No championships.

The only reason I'll go with Simers on this is that this the Mavs and as good as Dirk is playing, they're really not beating us as much as we're letting them win. If the Lakers can manage to play a full 48 min. and grab a W, they get to come home and play here and possibly get another. If the Mavs revert to norm, we'd be in their head for game 6 (which would be a miracle to win...of all the cases where someone tried to come back from a 0-3 defecit, there are quite a few where game 6 was close). So if the LAkers can force a game 7, then all bets are off.

Posted by: alekesam | May 07, 2011 at 12:13 PM

"They're really not beating us as much as we're letting them win" ... LMAO!!

BTW, you sound like PompousTom with all those "ifs" in your post!

"The Judge,

What an appropriate new handle son, since that's what you love to do."

Posted by: Art | May 07, 2011 at 12:27 PM

'...new handle son' ??? Clever, but hardly.
Thanks for the compliment though.

But thou Art...I'm so disappointed in you.
Please tell me you're not one of them old dudes
who mows the lawn in your Kobe jersey?
Say it ain't so...

Final Score: Dallas 112 Lakers 86
Ouch!!!

Mark:
You and all of the other's fail to note the most important stat of all. The Lakers had very few FT attempts and Bryant really had none as a result of his activity or lack of activity.
Bryant is now a settler. He settles for shots rather than working his way to the hoop.
With five mins left he should have been friving the ball to the basket. He is playing tired and I can understand why. Too many meaningless games where he played 38 mins and Jackson refused to use his bench.
Also the league gave Boston/Miami 3 days rest between games 2 and 3 and the Lakers just 1. Why?

PMAZ - The Lakers were not getting the calls...let's just admit it. the refs wanted to give the game to the Mavs. LO was pushed and that's why he couldn't get the ball at the end of the game...same thing in game 1...Jason pushed Kobe down but yet again...no call from the ref... I think the refs are more motivated to see dallas win this series....and what about all the flops by the "tough" mavs....ha ha ha some tough crew that is....not

Blame has to go all around. But what happen to Kobe "best pkayer in the world give me the ball and i'll carry this team to a win " Bryant?

Blame goes all around but what happen to Kobe "I'm the best player in the world, give me the ball and I'll carry this team to a victory" Bryant.

Please tell me you're not one of them old dudes
who mows the lawn in your Kobe jersey?
Say it ain't so...
Posted by: The Judge
=======

Sorry to spoil your imagery, but no, I pay someone to do that kind of work.
You should come out of the closet, prefer the old handle.

Give Pau a couple of Xanax and send him home.

rossdogg76,

I have likely been watching basketball longer than you. I watched the long haired hippie pot smoking Jackson as the Knicks version of Matt Barnes in the 60s-70s, only that comparison is not fair to Barnes.

What did the great Zen Master do when Jordan took time out for baseball? He won nothing!@!! In fact, his best player Scottie Pippen quit on him - refused to enter the game in the waning seconds - during a playoff loss to the Pacers. And what did Phil do after MJ finally retired? He resigned rather coach an MJ-less Bulls team.

When did the great Zen grace us him return to coaching? Only when he could hand pick his team with a Prime Time Shaq and Kobe.

Easy to be graceful and so clever when you have the game's greatest players carrying the load for you. As the great Zen has show against Dallas, he blows his cool when his declining team can't handle Dirk Nowitzki. His coaching guffaws helped lose game 1 when he had Odom on the sideline as the Lakers choked away the lead in the final minute?
And in game 3 we see the Zen screaming at and hitting Pau because Zen has failed to coach his team to rotate properly on defense. When he had superior talent all those years, his coaching shortcomings didn't cost the team. But now when playing an equally talented team, the great one has been outcoached in every game. The Lakers are done and the great coach has been exposed!!!!

@Lamont...interesting viewpoint. And you made a good case. In fairness to Phil, Scottie did quit on him. Only to see Kukoc hit the game winner. Scottie was upset that he wasn't getting the ball. That's not Phil's fault. In essence it's kinda ironic. If Bynum gets the ball late in these games, we win all 3. He's dam close to being their best player now. Gasol looks done. Or at least in need of a LONG break. Kobe is choking in the 4th. Not penetrating, fade away jumpers, not seeing open people, etc. And that 3 that Terry hit last night was HIS rotation. He wants to be the hero still but doesn't seem to wanna dig in and play that rock solid D he used to. Bynum is willing to do it all because in his mind, he hasn't won a ring. He's been hurt and wants it badly, thus the comments, thus his strong play. Here's what I would do. Put Bynum on Dirk. He attacked Dirk, Gasol just stands there. I would BENCH Gasol as a message in this final game. Start Odom. Have Gasol sit the bench in the waning moments because as talented as he is, this team is failing down the stretch with him as our go to player in the post, which brings me back to your point Lamont. It seems to be spot on. Why would Phil NOT recognize this and give Bynum the call late as opposed to Gasol? He was willing to with Pippen but not Gasol? Which makes me believe that there's something to Phil not being a great coach any longer. Lastly, I still believe they can win the series but being a realist, know that they wont'. They may win game 4 and 5 but noway they win game 6. One game at a time, yes, but for now I'll settle for 1 4th quarter at a time. Go Lakers.

End of an era for Lake show. PJ, please leave for good, your Zen stuff doesn't work anymore, especially when you ignore good players and rookies in your bench (Ebanks and Trey Johnson). Kobe is done, I mean he can't even beat Peja to the hoop, Peja!? Bring on Dwight Howard and Chris Paul, and Rick Adelman as coach. We need to see players with heart and soul next year, not quitters like Pau and Shannon Brown.

GG your a joke. You jump ship? You talk about PJ like you know him? You want Ebanks and Johnson to play? You are a pathetic! Just like Troll Man. You guys should get together and join the "we are bandwagon club" together. All Laker fans, not the fake Laker fans, but all the "TRUE" Laker fans stick by through thick and thin, and don't kick the team in it's teeth at this time. If Bryant or Jackson walked in your door right now I guarantee that you that you would sing a different tune. Go root for the Clippers!

GG....go start our new franchise with Trey Johnson and Devin Ebanks. Good luck winning 3 games. You are what's wrong with Bandwagoners. You give Laker fans a bad name.

ArtestisReal.....we don't win squat with Bynum taking the last shots. You are playing typical second half quarterback. Just because Bynum is the flavor of the week, is no reason to lose your mind. C'mon, let's not get to the point where all of a sudden you forget what brought you here. And Bynum was not it. You need to hank out with Troll Man and GG for awhile.

Even though we are down 3-0, i feel as though we have been robbed games 1 and 3. Our lack to score in the fourth has let us down. I still think we can get back into this series, even though history says we wont win. But If we win game 4, we can win game 5 at home and hopefully put some pressure on the mavs. As for troy, your a joke, your not a real fan, jumping ship when things get tough.

Lakers for ever .....

The only reason I'll go with Simers on this is that this the Mavs and as good as Dirk is playing, they're really not beating us as much as we're letting them win. If the Lakers can manage to play a full 48 min. and grab a W, they get to come home and play here and possibly get another. If the Mavs revert to norm, we'd be in their head for game 6 (which would be a miracle to win...of all the cases where someone tried to come back from a 0-3 defecit, there are quite a few where game 6 was close). So if the LAkers can force a game 7, then all bets are off.

Posted by: alekesam | May 07, 2011 at 12:13 PM

"They're really not beating us as much as we're letting them win" ... LMAO!!

BTW, you sound like PompousTom with all those "ifs" in your post!

Posted by: 131-92 | May 07, 2011 at 12:39 PM

AMEN 131-92! I SECOND THAT!

superstar,

No one robbed the Lakers in Games 1 & 3. The Lakers choked away both games to a team who made the plays at the end of the game. The Lakers have had a good run, but it is over. They clearly have no answer to the offensive stars of Dallas. Laker weaknesses from the coach on down have been exposed this season, by New Orleans, and now Dallas. Unfortunately for the Lakers, the Dallas Superstar Dirk Nowitzki is not washed up like the Lakers!

 
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