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Caught in the Web: Brian Shaw to interview with Golden State Warriors

Photo: Lakers assistant coach Brian Shaw talks strategy with forward Ron Artest during a game in April against the Utah Jazz at EnergySolutions Arena. Credit: Russ Isabella / US Presswire --The Times' Broderick Turner reports that the Lakers have given Brian Shaw and Chuck Person permission to talk with the Golden State Warriors regarding the open head coaching position.

--Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick highlights Kobe Bryant's "wasted year."

--Ball Don't Lie's Kelly Dwyer contends the NBA Finals will feel much different this year without the Lakers in it.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Arash Markazi says  the Lakers shouldn't make any major offseason moves.

--The Orange County Register's Jeff Miller takes issue with Andrew Bynum's apology.

--Sports Illustrated's Joe Posnanski criticizes the Lakers' Game 4 performance against Dallas.

--Fox Sports' Bill Reiter believes the Lakers-Celtics era is over.

--The Dallas Morning News' Eddie Sefko criticizes Andrew Bynum for not apologizing to J.J. Barea directly.

--The San Jose Mercury News' Marcus Thompson II also details the Warriors' interest in Shaw.

Tweet of the Day: "Source close to Lakers SF Matt Barnes says it's unlikely he'll opt out. No final decision, but he wants to try this Lakers thing again." -- sam_amick (Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick)

Rick Friedman Reader Comment of the Day: "Sad thing is, coming into this season, I swore to everyone on this blog that motivation would be the last of the Lakers worries. I mean, with all the new blood and the Miami teams loading up (not to mention the Dallas team that loaded up)... you knew we were underdogs to Miami in the very least heading into the season. I thought for sure, our guys will be motivated!

"Maybe they were motivated. If so, I'd hate to see what happens when they aren't motivated. Sure, Gasol has all the reasons to be motivated. But will it translate into production? If this season taught me anything, it's the answer is: not necessarily." -- Tim-4-Show

Photo: Lakers assistant coach Brian Shaw talks strategy with forward Ron Artest during a game in April against the Utah Jazz at EnergySolutions Arena. Credit: Russ Isabella / US Presswire

--Mark Medina

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The Lakers did not get better with their personal during the off season. Other teams made better moves to improve their roster. Kupchek needs to not sit on his hands and expect Kobe to bail him out.

wussup lakers fans no need 2 worry. i have the perfect scenerio. hire rick adelman, trade gasol artest and either fisher or blake for chris paul trevor ariza and emeka okafor. I need you guys to pass it along lets get mitch kupchak's attention and make this thing happen. with this trade we get youth, athleticism, and great 3 point shooting; all of the things the team was missing this year. And with okafor we will continue the length and great interior defense that we enjoyed the last couple of years.


wussup lakers fans no need 2 worry. i have the perfect scenerio. hire rick adelman, trade gasol artest and either fisher or blake for chris paul trevor ariza and emeka okafor. I need you guys to pass it along lets get mitch kupchak's attention and make this thing happen. with this trade we get youth, athleticism, and great 3 point shooting; all of the things the team was missing this year. And with okafor we will continue the length and great interior defense that we enjoyed the last couple of years.


If they have permission to talk, then who's the new coach?

Time for a reality check! I will go out on a limb and say our next coach will be Rick Adelman. He has shown ability to raise the level of play on several veteran teams. You can say that Portland, Sacramento and Houston all overachieved to some extent. He was able to get the best out of Artest (not an easy task).

Now after bringing in Adelman we should take a gamble on Yao. Offer a minimum salary, there is very little risk. No team is going to offer big money with his injury history. Yao ccan make up for the lost wages with greater endorsement opportunities here in LA. Hell, lets give T-Mac a chance as well. Adelman knows them both well. What say you?

Rick Adelman will be our next coach.

with some time for some reflection, i expect the lakers to come back. how long that will be, who knows. with brian shaw and chuck person given permission to interview other places, it's difficult to figure out what's going on in mitch's and more importantly in dr. buss's mind.one thing that has been helpful for me is the realization that i love basketball more than i love the lakers.as such, i have been able to appreciate the game the mavs came into the play-offs with.i now can marvel at how they moved that ball around! reminded me of another team who used to do the same thing before reality shows and high drama got in the way. as they say, it's time to re-lock and and reload.

Smart move by B. Shaw.

A) Nothing makes you more attractive to your current team like attention from another team. You can be taken for granted, and this can make the Lakers look at him like, hey, they think he can be a head coach. Maybe we are missing something. It's like another girl flirting with you. It makes your wife think, hey, maybe all does is sit on my couch and drink beer and watch ball games and pass gas, but if she's interested.........

B) If they go with an Adelman or something, Shaw will not want to be an assistant under the new guy, it's time to move on.

The Lakers definitely have to get quicker. Specifically at PG and SF, two positions where you are supposed to be quick. Artest and Fisher both came along when they could use their strength to defend on the perimiter. Their advancing age, the wimpy rules preventing physical play on the perimiter and the rise of so many quick perimiter guys have left the Lakers too slow.


But quickness will not be a panacea. With the quick and talented guys playing in the NBA now, and the rules about contact, nobody can contain these perimeter players alone. The NBA is a team defense league now, and the Lakers biggest problem in these playoffs was their lack of team defense. Help was slow, closeouts late. Guys who got beat quit on the play instead of recovering to help the helper or crash the boards. The quickest perimeter guys in the world won't help if these guys don't buy into team D concepts. And that includes everyone - Gasol, Kobe, Lamar. Bynum was the only guy committed to team D in these playoffs.


It requires work, committment, trust and discipline. I need to know if I leave my guy to help, you are going to get to my guy, and not make me look bad. I need to have my head up and play defense for 24 seconds. I can just stand next to my guy and say "hey, he didn't score." Gasol was standing around a lot, and quitting on plays. Kobe chases the ball too much, he is undisciplined. Artest is a good physical 1-on-1 defender, but he can't chase a guy like Peja around the perimiter . Fish is too slow. Lamar is too unfocused. All that has to change.

If the Lakers don't wrap-up Shaw, he's as good as gone. There is no way he won't be a head coach next year.

The thing is, we have a vacancy right now. Unlike other years we will have lost another in-house candidate when we actually needed a head coach.

B-Scott, Rambis, Larry Drew, Coop.

I'm starting to think the Buss don't want to hand over the franchise reigns to an unproven young coach. I'm also thinking about Adelman, envisioning him on the sidelines and as much as I think he's a good coach that squeezes maximum efforts out of his teams, I just can't picture it. I don't know why.

Brian Shaw has ice water running through his veins. We saw that when he'd come in and knock down all those clutch shots he did. He's been through the wars with Kobe and crew, down in the trenches and (as Vic the Brick would say) living through death, showing no fear.

I wrote yesterday I thought they should consider Adelman, but I'm reversing myself. Give Shaw a shot, he's paid his dues and the guys have given him their blessings without hesitation.

I have a feeling that if the Lakers don't lock him up, they're going to be regretting it for years to come.

Additionally, and I'm serious here, they should make Kobe a player-coach. At least he should be a part in working out their offense and evolving their new strategies.


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Gents.I am temporarily shutting down the site for repairs.Please don't post for a couple of hours. Mgt.

Posted by: Mark Medina | May 13, 2011 at 08:29 AM
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Handle jack, first of all, MM always starts what he's going to say with "Sorry guys...."

Yes it is a handle jack and I banned that IP address

rossdogg76 -Dude...you're a LIAR and full of CRAP, go back to your crack lab in yo mama's basement.

Posted by: G.Money | May 12, 2011 at 05:26 PM

G.Money apologies for using you as an exhibit, BUT MM you allow these kind of comments to go through but have the nerve to moderate my comments about moderation. You are something else, maybe all the 'blog god' names are getting to your head but you need to step back and reevaluate your work on here and make sure you are doing things the right way.

Thanks
PSP Intern

The Lakers will be back. This was more like the struggles in the middle of the Showtime Lakers run than it is like that last stand with ShaqKobe, where the team avaeraged 78.672 years old and the stars hated each other. The Lakers and Celts of 80s, and the Spurs more recently, won a lot of titles, but they didn't win them all in a row.


It's a matter of getting the team refocused and re-tooling the complimentary parts. The 80's Lakers went through PFs like Magic went through women - Landsberger, Chones, Kupchak, Rambis, Green, Lucas, Thompson, McAdoo.


Nixon gave way to Scott. Wilkes to Worthy.


This team is more in need of that kind of work. I fully expect them to compete next year, rested, hungry, re-tooled, with a fresh coach. As great as Phil was (and he was damn great) any coach has trouble getting through to a group of guys after a certain amount of time. Especially after success, when egos and complacency set in and role players start thinking it is their turn to be stars.


One nice thing is next year there will be no 70 win bandwagons, just a basketball team trying to find their way and play the right way and get back to the top.

Cyber,

I thought player/coaches were outlawed.

Shaw is a continuation of the status quo, I think that's a mistake, but then, I'm still waiting for Buss to ask me for my insight :)

(not holding breath)

The writing is on the wall..

If lakers would allow shaw to interview elsewhere and risk him getting better offers doesn't say much about how they feel about him.. and perhaps a message by buss that after being swept he is finally DONE with the triangle.

Time to say good bye to shaw the triangle dfish and luke.

MM - I was handle jacked at 8:33am.

Troll Man,

I agree that Thibs was highly coveted and is a defensive specialist...his strategy has been well documented since his days with Van Gundy (Houston) and the championship C's team.

I was simply responding to Psycorp post about not wanting a coach with no HC experience, yet he mentioned Thibs. No matter how good Thibs strategy was he still had no HC experience prior to Chicago hiring him. Just like Phil with the Bulls, Riley with the Lakers, Avery with the Mavs...and even Dunleavy with the Lakers. Bottomline all these teams were very good and and hired an coach with no HC experience and it paid immediate dividends.

Dwight Howard.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Brian Shaw isn't the only Laker assistant coach on other teams radars. Golden State and Indiana both are interested in Chuck Person.

This from Spurs Nation blog this morning:
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/13/former-spur-chuck-person-in-mix-for-several-vacant-nba-coaching-jobs/

On several times this season, Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith have chuckled at the notion of Chuck Person as a “defensive-minded” assistant coach with the Los Angeles Lakers.

During his NBA career, Person was known as “The Rifleman” because of his penchant for 3-point shooting. He holds the Spurs’ single-season record after hitting 190 3-pointers in 1996 and still has the two most single-season 3-pointers in team history.

But his forte for defense as a coach has helped emerge as a valuable Lakers assistant coach under Phil Jackson. It also has pushed into the mix for vacant head coaching jobs with the Lakers and Golden State, according to SI.com. He could also emerge as a potential candidate at Indiana if Frank Vogel leaves the team.

Even though the guys on TNT might be laughing, Person apparently has a coaching future in the NBA.

As a defensive wizard.

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The Lakers have a long tradition of appointing rookie Head Coaches and had some success with them:

Fred Schaus - went to the Finals 4x
Butch Van Breda Kolff - went to the Finals 2x (including rookie year)
Joe Mullaney - went to the Finals in rookie year
Paul Westhead - Won Finals in rookie year
Pat Riley - Won Finals in rookie year; went to 6 more Finals, winning 4
Mike Dunleavy - went to Finals in rookie year
Randy Pfund - one of the less successful rookie Laker head coach; only lasted one and a half seasons

Except for a brief stint with Rambis during the lockout year, the Lakers did not have a rookie coach since Randy Pfund. How the veteran coaches pan out?:

Del Harris
Rudy T
Framk Hamblen
Phil Jackson - I think he did alright 8-)

I guess Eddie Sefko from the Dallas Morning News missed the part where Bynum left a message on Barea's cell phone...

All indications point to Dr. Buss wanting to move away from the triangle. Which means no B. Shaw. Right now it's looking like Adelman will get the job. He's a good coach with a .600 win percentage through his career. And maybe he'll be able to get more out of Artest than Phil could as he did in Houston...

I wish Coach K were more open to the pros. He's the guy I'd feel most confident about.

Shaw might work if they keep to the same core (add some speed & outside shooting) and stick with the triangle.

Adelman might work. Look how hard Houston played the Lakers even after Yao went down in 2009. And that was a good defensive team.

There are probably a couple others that might be okay. The Lakers do have enough talent (with a couple of tweaks - like the 80's showtime teams made) to make several more finals appearances with this core. Who they choose to coach may be the difference between several rings and none. And whoever they are, they aren't going to be as good as Jackson was.

This is Buss' & Mitch's hardest job right now.

PSP- I understand, sometimes I'm over the EDGE

Trollman- Dude, I believe LBJ had a little drama in the FAKE tears, but Kobe and MJ had their share of drama.

I.P. Dude you're spot on with the Lakerholics and LBJ. It's the FEAR of Kobe being third best player in the association, in Hollywood your the number one STAR are your OUT. Ask Shaq, the dudes been reduced to a CARPET BAGGER.

The only person(s) Andrew Bynum has to apologize to is Laker Nation.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I think Brian Shaw should take Golden St job.Right now some players want him to stay in LA, but will they listen to him when they loose 3, 4 games in a row or in the playoffs ? They asked Phil to come back, and they played terrible .Brian Shaw can gain experience with young players, develope them, and after 3 years he will come back to LA, he is still young.

if you bring howard next year without upgrading the point guard position it'll be worst than this year,what you relly need is a fast point guard (it does not have to be paul) there are plenty of young athletic unexpensive point guards (jeff teague,darren collison,jonny flynn) and a deadly 3 point shooter like jose calderon (gasol's buddy) or jason kapono that would love to play for the lakers,a fast point guard would attack constantly the oposition defense and would leave the bigs open for easy dunks or kick out for the 3 point shooter, feeding the beast would keep bynum and gasol happy so they would be motivated for defense rebund.kobe has to be limited on shooting option and have to be forced to quit keeping the ball on his hands for so long (that is what slows the pace of the game and result on forcing shots or loosing balls and fast breaks from the oposite teams).new coach has to make koby understand that shooting 7 out 20 is hurting the team and has to play another roll on the team other than making miracle shots at the 24 secs or making fantasy plays that usually end on loose balls ,his game is so predictable and easy for other teams to defend.

thank you fisher for those championship shots but you have to go to the bench ,15 to 20 min max of playing time,if not it'll be better to spend more time on that nba players asociation job.
luke walton,leave your spot to justin beaver he plays way better than you.
joe smith,teo ratliff, thanks for nothing and take care of your grandsons.
caracter,ebanks,trey johnson you guys have potential ,I hope the next head coach would give you way more minutes than phil jackson did, I really think if this players would had the oportunity to play more in the regular season ,they would really had a big impact on the play offs ( fresh legs and hunger to spark the team)
and finally,new coach staff and players should really pay attention on the extra activities that distract players from the game (reallity shows ,singing aspirations,girlfriends messing with the players focus on the game isn't that right, Odom,Artest, Brown,shasha,Gasol?
maybe some one like Larry Brown or Kurt Rambis would give this guys some discipline

if you bring howard next year without upgrading the point guard position it'll be worst than this year,what you relly need is a fast point guard (it does not have to be paul) there are plenty of young athletic unexpensive point guards (jeff teague,darren collison,jonny flynn) and a deadly 3 point shooter like jose calderon (gasol's buddy) or jason kapono that would love to play for the lakers,a fast point guard would attack constantly the oposition defense and would leave the bigs open for easy dunks or kick out for the 3 point shooter, feeding the beast would keep bynum and gasol happy so they would be motivated for defense rebund.kobe has to be limited on shooting option and have to be forced to quit keeping the ball on his hands for so long (that is what slows the pace of the game and result on forcing shots or loosing balls and fast breaks from the oposite teams).new coach has to make koby understand that shooting 7 out 20 is hurting the team and has to play another roll on the team other than making miracle shots at the 24 secs or making fantasy plays that usually end on loose balls ,his game is so predictable and easy for other teams to defend.

Testing... Testing... for moderation...

is it on??

Hello to the blog crew, old and new...

what are we talking about today?
how Brian Shaw will leave LA to coach the Warriors? or Rockets? and we get Rick Adelman?

hmmmm I want SHAW... he played with Fish and Kobe and I bet Kobe will be able to listen to Shaw more than Phil...

>>>if you bring howard next year without upgrading the point guard position
>>>it'll be worst than this year,

Depends what you have to give up to get him. If it's Bynum and none of the other core Laker players, then it's definitely an improvement.

Dwight is better than Bynum on both ends of the court. He's a MUCH better rebounder than Bynum. He's better at blocking shots without clobbering guys. He's got better lateral speed to defend the pick and roll. And his offensive game got dramatically better this season.

That improvement ALONE would be a difference of 6 or 7 points a game. Which turns two of those Dallas losses into wins. And may have been enough of a difference to win the Dallas series. And no other team has the amount of 3 point shooting or size in the post combination that Dallas had.

But yes, they could also use some help on the wings. But they might get some of it from within. If the next coach isn't as reluctant to use young players as Phil, then Devin Ebanks could help out on the speed issue.

marino,

>>>there are plenty of young athletic unexpensive point guards (jeff teague,
>>>darren collison,jonny flynn)

Okay, maybe you're unclear on the concept here. Those guys are cheap because they're on their rookie contract. And they are all starting point guards for their teams.

So what could the Lakers offer them to persuade them to give up a quality PG who's starting for them? Luke?

Once those guys leave their rookie contracts, they'll move up to what Blake is making or more. If they continue to flourish like Collison, they'll make way more. More than the Lakers can possibly offer them as free agents. If they continue to suck like Flynn, then they'll STILL make about what Blake does.

PGs are expensive.

>>>and a deadly 3 point shooter like jose calderon (gasol's buddy) or jason
>>>kapono that would love t

I like Calderon better than Kapono. They're both complete liabilities on defense, but at least Calderon is an exceptional passer. Kapono is a 3-point shooter and nothing else.

When Toronto still had both Calderon and Jarrett Jack and were alternating starting them, it would have been easier to trade for Calderon, though they might have had to give up Odom to get him. Now Toronto has no other good PGs on the roster, so they probably wouldn't trade Calderon except maybe in a package to get Bynum.

Adleman seems to be the front-runner now, otherwise they would have locked up Brian Shaw. The New York football Giants once had two up-and-coming great coaching assistants, both of whom they ultimately let go... Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi.


Food for thought.

@ Reality Check Time

You made some great points in regards to acquiring Yao. The Lakers need a back-up Center to relieve Bynum and he could fill that void. At $1.2 million (minimum salary for an 8 year pro for 11-12), it'll be a low risk investment. I think his acquisition should be conditioned on his minutes being regulated/limited due to his prior injuries.

The most interesting thing is if the laker's had won the championship or had not lost in such a devastating manner. I think Brian Shaw would have been a shoe in. With the uncertainty that appears to exist with the laker's now. A very careful thought needs to be taken as to who or whom should run this team. Brian Shaw is a class act and would be a great coach, but with the uncertainty that now exist.with his youthfulness and in experience as a head coach and attempting to fulfill the great shoes of coach jackson. To place him in this type of situation, might not even be fair to him, even though at this time he might not see it as such. I also think we need to take a serious early look at obtaining Dwight Howard before all the other teams start trying to assemble their packages. The early bird usually gets the worm. The problem with the laker's wasn't so much chemistry as it was a lack of hunger. Any body who has ever come off a fast will under stand where I'm coming from. psalms 20


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