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Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom tarnish successful individual seasons with cheap shots in Lakers' 122-86 Game 4 loss to Dallas Mavericks

Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest (15) escorts Andrew Bynum off the court after the center was ejected for a flagrant foul in the fourth quarter of Game 4 on Sunday in Dallas. Credit: Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times. With one dirty and unnecessary elbow to Dallas guard Jose Barea, Lakers center Andrew Bynum just wasted a season-long effort in avoiding a major injury, establishing a defensive identity and showing the dominance the organization envisioned he'd once own.

With one dirty and unnecessary shove with his shoulder into Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki, Lakers forward Lamar Odom just wasted a season-long effort in playing at his most consistent, winning the NBA's sixth man of the year and continually earning the teams' respect as a positive locker-room presence.

Bynum and Odom might have acted out of frustration with the minutes waning in an eventual 122-86 Game 4 loss Sunday to the Dallas Mavericks that ended their season. They might have deviated from their normal character. And they might not have intended any harm on Nowitzki and Barea. But it doesn't matter. Their classless acts are repulsive and without any valid excuse.

Bynum and Odom set the worst examples on how to lose with dignity, making the Detroit Pistons' walkout seconds before the Chicago Bulls swept them in the 1991 Eastern Conference finals comparatively mild. Odom and Bynum gave the worst sendoff imaginable for Lakers Coach Phil Jackson, who already didn't deserve an ending in this fashionto what's presumed to be his last NBA game in a storied 19-year coaching career. And Odom and Bynum gave the Lakers organization every reason not to want to keep them on their roster next season.

Both have guaranteed contracts and represent a valuable piece to the Lakers. But with Magic Johnson's insistence that owner Jerry Buss "blow this team up" should the Lakers get swept, everyone outside of Kobe Bryant shouldn't be protected from trades and that they should do everything imaginable to obtain Magic center Dwight Howard, it's far from speculative that Odom's and Bynum's ejections will seriously dent their standing on the team.

That's a shame because, just like the Lakers' quest for a three-peat, this is not how it should have ended. Bynum was on his way to solidifying himself as one of the league's dominant centers, took large ownership of a Lakers' defense that largely spurred their 17-1 record following the All-Star break and appeared at his most healthy. Odom proved he was no longer the inconsistent player he had been for a large part of his career by becoming the team's most consistent player in the regular season, proved he could handle the potential distractions surrounding a reality television show with wife Khloe Kardashian and humbly accepted moving between starter and reserve.

After Bynum fielded criticism for missing the first 24 games of the season because he delayed his offseason surgery on his right knee so he could attend the World Cup, he proved the wait was worth it with a dependable force in the middle that arguably proved more valuable than Pau Gasol. After Odom faced uncertainty whether his experience in the 2010 FIBA World Championships would lead to burn out, he proved that experience helped him with his conditioning, leadership and hunger to win. And after ending the season the way they did?

Few will remember all the aforementioned accomplishments. With a long offseason awaiting the Lakers and a possible lockout looming, teammates, the organization and the general public will see countless replays of Odom shouldering Nowitzki and Bynum lunging with a forearm shiver at Barea. That aftermath might not be fair, it might not reflect their character and it might not describe their value to the team. But Bynum and Odom only have themselves to blame for that.

--Mark Medina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest (15) escorts Andrew Bynum off the court after the center was ejected for a flagrant foul in the fourth quarter of Game 4 on Sunday in Dallas. Credit: Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times.

 
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One frustration play at the end of a tough series ending loss doesn't "waste" or "tarnish" an entire season. It is what it is- a frustrated player making a play nobody can be proud of. Saying it will overshadow everything else seems a bit emotional/overkill, just like the fouls.

Lets keep Bynum, Lamar and Gasol the rest can go even Kobe ; I'm ready for a new era.

Okay, okay, okay...the Lakers aren't the only team that have delivered some cheap shots. Bynum made a poor choice. He'll get suspended and he'll lose thousands of dollars, but at least he showed some passion out there, albeit misdirected. Just the other day, someone headbutted another player. It happens. Lets not make a major thing over trashing our player that actually PERFORMED!

You get what you deserve. A classless bunch of losers. A joke...plain and simple. Your boy Jackson is a fraud, and can't carry Red's strap

I agree with Gabe. One obviously obnoxious play is NO WAY indicative a either Odom's or Bynum's play this season. People handle frustration in diferent ways. By the way, Odoms hit on Dirk wasn't THAT bad...in fact, I think the ref OVER REACTED by tossing him. I've seen harder contact on legitimate screens. So take breath Mark, it's not the end of the Lakers' world ... and as Gabe said, lighten up on the emotional overkill. As a Michigan resident, referencing the Pistons' walk out when the Bulls defeated them showed a lack of class on your part. It makes me wonder if YOU ever played a high level of team sports. It get's pretty sickening seeing writers say how players SHOULD react during a loss.

1. Congrats to the Mavs on a brilliant series. Cubes for spending the money to field a very good roster, Coach Carlisle for maximizing his team strengths and the players for executing at a high level.

2. Phil (and his staff) thank you for the 5 rings and for helping re-establish the Lakers as the marquee franchise in the NBA.

3. ALL the players…thanks for the incredible ride the last four seasons

4. Dr. Buss and the front office – thanks for the commitment to excellence. You know what it takes to hoist the LO trophy and I believe you’ll have the Lakers back soon.

5. Mavs fans – enjoy the ride and best wishes on the rest of the playoffs. You’ve suffered a lot of heartache and now its your time to shine.

what lamar did was bad. what andrew did was much worse. setting a hard pick and lowering your shoulder is appropriate on the gridiron but not the basketball court. lunging with your body and leaning with your forearm into the ribs of another man who leaves his feet and is at his most vulnerable in mid-air, particularly when it's the other team's smallest player is appropriate nowhere, never. and then taking your jersey off in the middle of the court as you exit stage left shows a contempt for everything the game is supposed to stand for. lamar admitted his frustrations afterwards and said as much. andrew, to my knowledge, really didnt'. i accept lamar's response. i find andrew's more troubling.

Well, that really sucked. I can't say I'm completely shocked by this collapse, given the team's lackluster play in the regular season. Something just seemed off the entire season, and it was only magnified during this series. I have never seen this squad play so lifeless and passive. The lack of chemistry on the court strongly indicates that there is some tension within the team that will eventually be revealed in the offseason.

Anyways, watching the replay of Drew's foul, I don't think it was that bad...it was just a forearm. It just looked worse since Barea is a lot smaller. It certainly doesn't warrant a multi-game suspension next season.

bynum was a true disgrace to the Laker franchise. Disrespecting his entire team, including the Buss Family and coaching staff. Taking off your jersey when you haven't even hit the tunnel. BYNUM, you are not welcome back by true Laker fans. You've always been a liability and that will never change.

Ummm, you seem very dramatic and over the top with this article. Maybe, you shoild have written this when you came to grips with the loss. Too emotional buddy!

Saying this was just a frustration play is not correct. The Bynum play was one of the all-time dirtiest plays in the last 20 years of the NBA playoffs. This was the type of play that could have led to serious injury. This classless act is a representation of Bynum's character, frustrated or not. Bynum should be sent packing while his value is still high and before he implodes under the next poor soul who has to coach this bunch.

Phil and Kobe are the true champions. Odom and Bynum needs to gtfo. Stupid classless #$!#$% ....

True Champions lose with class! Bynum and the Lakers are sore losers!!!

GO MAVS!

BOSTONJIM. someone is mad their team lost last year huh? Red Auerbach? get out of here. how many rings did he have? 9? oh that's right phil has 11. keep hating please.

Thank you Mark Medina.

I'm a Celts fan, but it is always nice to see things called the right way. Thanks for the piece of honest journalism on those disgraceful thugs!

This is the third time andrew bynum does the same thing to a player. What a disgraceful thug! Jerry Buss should get rid of him. As for Lamar, he also has a history of shameful behavior in the past. Both of them are a shame for the NBA and the Lakers.

Disagree a bit MM:

Carlisle aggravated the situation a lot by leaving in Dirk with a 30 point lead in the 4th quarter!!! Back-in-the-day the coach would probably have taken a clothesline for that! Carlisle played then, so he should know better! And LO's was just a hard foul. This used to be a non-pansy league, but you youngsters are too PC for a real man's game back-in-the-day. Now AB's was definitely a bad foul, but once again, have none of you watched McHale's clothesline of Rambis!!!??? In today's league of (W)NBA Stearn-pansy league that would get a year's supension! Maybe we will trade away the AB suspension?

LRob, very classy post...would expect nothing less from you.

MM, I don't want to minimize Drew's shot on Barea, but I actually see this "crime of passion" as less repulsive than Gasol's utterly passionless no-show.

LO and Drew both made silly mistakes out of frustration. No one in the Laker organization condones that type of basketball. I'm sure they regret their actions (I heard LO express that in the post game interview).

I am a strong believer in good sportsmanship. After watching LO for the last 7 years I know that was very uncharacteristic. However for Drew that's the second time he's made that type of play this year. He'll need to figure out a way to control his emotions better. He's an intelligent young man and I believe he'll learn and grow from this.

Anyway...they both should apologize to the players and the Mavs organization and put this behind them.

Artest foul was worse. If he only got 1 day, I don't see anything worse for Bynum.

im sorry, this league is so filled with soft players, a couple of elbows in a losing effort is the topic. Not how this team lost in 4 games, but the EXCUSE or pointing out something so little is a big issue. Nobody cares about the elbows. Its more than that at hand. Terrible blog here.

I respected the Lakers until now, anyone who try's to rationalize this is crazy and delusional, this was awful for the franchise, just awful even MAGIC JOHNSON said it was classless, or are we gonna rationalize that one of our best players is wrong.. look he's right its time for a new era, if lamar and bynum were real good players they would have been able to control their emotions, same with ron artest, just soiled the laker name this playoffs.

Lakers showed what classless frauds they are. This was not Bynum's first cheap shot, he has pulled the same stunt on at least two other occasions. The league should review those instances (all over you tube) and suspend him for at least 20 games to start next year.

Odom has also pulled the same stunt (see his tackle of Ray Allen at the Fakers were getting drilled in 2008 Finals). His offense was not as flagrant - but a two game suspension is in order.

The Fakers are a fraud organization that has lived and now died on the good graces of the refs that treated them like royalty. With this disgusting display, and Kobe's continued decline from Black Mamba to harmless earthworm, they will not be able to count on being gifted titles like they were in 2009 and 2002 (vs Kings in conf finals), or 1988 (vs Pistons)

TEST TEST

This is a test of the emergency broadcast system

The game you just watch was really a computer generated program funded by Mark Cuban. He paid his programmers top dollar to have every 3 point shot go in bya Mavs player.
Any person with a brain knows that it is impossible to hit 90% of your 3 point shots even in a gym alone by yourself.

we now return you to your normally schedule program "The Matrix"

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3el78ar

If this happened i would crap my pants.

Dwight - Lamar - Ariza - Kobe - CP3

with bench of: Caracter, Barnes, JJ, Puke, Brown, Ebanks

only downside would be the lack of size on the bench but with the way the nba is now and with that kind of starting line up... ohh man.


But this joke I came from some guy on ESPN Blog.. I could not resist it.. just a joke..

manhattan90266 (5/8/2011 at 6:52 PM)
>>This just in.....Erik Spoelstra thinks Jackson could be fired by Jerry soon.....details to follow...

Posted by: CaptainJackSparrow | May 08, 2011 at 04:47 PM

AND, back-in-the-day, if I had fallen over like Dirk did on that play, my teammates would have bought me a skirt for the plane ride back! I would never hear the end of it. You take a LO block like that standing up, just like Kobe did when Barnes tried to make him flinch last year. The best way to make the other guy look like a fool is to stand your ground and not flop around like a weak sister! The offender has the mano-a-mano points if you flop over with an insignificant block like LO had (LO even held his hands/arms to his side!).

I'll take Bynum and Odom's behavior anyday over the dead corpse that is Pau Gasol. All he does while we're down by 30 is shrug his shoulders. I'm not saying what Bynum and Odom did was right, but at least Bynum and Odom showed that they're still alive and not dead.

MM: You're better than this. You're just stirring the sensational pot. Lamar's "disgraceful" foul? Might want to watch the replay on that one. Bynum's foul was stupid, indeed, but it doesn't "tarnish" his season. You did the same thing with Kobe's remark: thread after thread after thread. Come on.

Go Lake Show!

Trade Kobe? Are you serious? Wow, some of you have really lost it. And just because Bynum and Odom took cheap shots, it does not mean that they're career is tarnished. You and many others are blowing this out of proportion. People tend to do things when they're upset. EVERYONE has did or said something out of anger.

That was just absolutely classless from Andrew Bynum. I was shocked when he would do something like that because it was just an obvious intent to injure out of frustration. There is no way a guy who has won 2 championships should do something like that.


http://chrisross91.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/spoiled-laker-brat/

Et tu, Mark?

This has to be the most pompous, self-righteous article you have ever written.

Disgrace to the lakers, disgrace to the buss family!!! please do you know anything about competing in sports? Do you know the frustrations these players go through? Stop pointing fingers at the players who showed that they care and start pointing them at those who showed no emotion. I suggest you begin with Pau Gasol.

This should be a very interesting offseason, starting with the search for a new head coach. That decision could very well affect our personnel moves. If we stick with Brian Shaw and the triangle, we'll likely keep our major pieces in place. If we go with an outsider who brings in a new system, which Buss will definitely consider now given his desire to bring Showtime back, there's a very good chance that either Pau or Drew will be shipped out.

In any case, I hope we bring in some backcourt help for Kobe - preferably a superstar PG like CP3 or D-Will. We need someone else besides Kobe who can create their own shots and distribute the ball effectively. Any loss in the frontcourt can be adequately made up by bringing in a tough nosed big. I hope we can add a guy like Carl Landry to the team.

i don't care i still love the lakers and always will. this does nothing in my eyes to take away from the passion bynum showed this season. odom emergence into a reliable 6th man shouldn't be tarnished either. yeah it was dirty, but that's what happens. it just shows how much they cared.

"Their classless acts are repulsive and without any valid excuse."

Medina, how long have you been a Lakers beat writer??? I am a second generation fan and, I must say, you never disappoint in expressing hyperbolic rhetoric vis-a-vis a Laker(s) (be it Kobe, Bynum in the past and now Odom)

There was clear frustration but the Odom shove was less vicious than the Bynum foul, Lamar did not deserve to get tossed....the refs were beyond atrocious today, that whining bastard, Nowitzi, was hacking left and right and we were not getting any calls, whatsoever.

BTW, since you are on the subject of "class", your hero Mark Cuban, is the epitome of that right? did you forget how your favorite German pushed Kobe in the back a couple of months back or the foul on Blake by Terry???

Either way, I commend them, they whipped us, fair and square, and good luck to them in the future...the Lakers will re-load, pick a good coach, make a trade or two, and be in the hunt again next April-May-June!

I'm not a fan of the Fakers..but I really did not have issues with Bynum or O'dumb until tonights game. Do you know how many kids look up to these idiots? what are they saying if you can't win it's time to use violence. I knew I did not like this team for a reason. Take it like a man and move on the Mavs were the better team....Sore loooosers

So as a GM Mitch Kupchak saved a few million dollars by signing players to cheap contracts and letting Farmar and Sasha go.

Now how many millions will Buss lose because there will be no more playoff home games.

were talking probably at least 6 more home games @ 2+ million dollars net each game.

And were still left with the dysfunctional team that is more concerned with their reality shows, rap music, workout videos, and T-shirt sales.

Mitch really screwed this up bigtime. No excuses. Dr. Buss must be livid.

I don't feel as strongly as MM, but CBS's Berger does:

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/29163057

When people reference the Pistons walking out on the Bulls in the '91 ECF, it's generally overlooked that the Bulls denied the lessons they learned in defeat to the Bad Boys and that they disrespected the Pistons in the media throughout that season.

It's also overlooked that Larry Bird and compay walked out on the Pistons in their loss to Detroit in the '88 ECF.

LA's loss today is surprising in that it was self-inflicted rather than brought about by injury and/or age. It'll be interesting to see what comes next.

A tougher cap is coming and you guys have $70M tied up in the declining Black Mamb ...err Earthworm, Gasoft, and Bynum (who will now be labeled a goon and be on a short leash with refs). Complete and utter decline is on the horizon

Hey BostonJIM you are a piece of crap. Phil Jackson is the best coach while you support your trash of players in crappy Boston.

Nice article, calling it like it is. These two totally disrespected their teammates and their Coach.

Sad to see some fans actually justifying these infantile bouts of extremely poor sportsmanship and thinking this behavior is justifiable. It is not.

When Lakers season ends, my basketball season ends as well.

The way the Lamar and Andrew played today against the Mavericks was inexcusable and pure garbage. You can make excuses for them saying that's the way guys play or it was nothing but the fact is that those two punks were not playing basketball in that moment and embarrassed Phil and the rest of the team. Congratulations to the Dallas Mavericks for their win. Thank you Mark for your honest post.

Also Thanks Bynum for trying hard this playoff year. Your hard effort will help us make the trade fro Howard.

Gasol/Odom and the rest of our Squad: What ever it takes to bring players who want to win will trade everyone in a heart beat.

Good Things to come for our Lakers.

drew went nuts cause he was frustrated with ballhog bryant.
get rid of kobe.

No place for that in the game of basketball or sport in general. Bynum and Odom are classless thugs, plain and simple. And these are supposed to be professionals. Any high school player that did as much would be suspended from multiple games and possibly the team. But the league allows players at the highest level to act however they see fit. NBA definitely isn't a family game. I certainly don't want my kids to emulate their actions. Hope the league comes down on them hard. If either of those moves were done on the street they'd be looking at assult charges. But in the game of basketball, it's deemed frustration. Can't imagine how these individuals act when they are frustrated with their wives or kids, if that's how they act in the middle of a game, a game which was over by the beginning of the 2nd quarter. Scary.

Both teams had schizophrenic seasons. In this series we happened to get the good Mavs and the bad Lakers. S happens.

When is the NBA going to take serious action on what was called a hard foul? The intent to cause harm and possibly take someone else's carrier away was evident. Both Bynum and Odom saw Phil was slapped on the wrist earlier, so why not cause assault & battery on someone who is making you look bad, what's the worst that can happen, a slap, irrelevant fine, no big deal. Hey how about 1 yr suspension for Odom and lifetime expulsion for Bynum. Maybe basketball will become a sport again.. Explain how to teach kids sportsmanship when these guys get away with whatever they wish and are paid millions to do it?

Nobody talked to each other today. The Lakers always had 5 players on the court, but not a team. Its best that kobe leaves, because if he is not top dog, he won't produce. If Howard joins the team, kobe won't be top dog. You would have the same mess as you do now.

This thread is a troll magnet, and I don't use that term "troll" very often.

Are you for real Quincy....the frustrations they go through. It's a damn game. These athletes have their every whim catered too 99% of the time. They have someone to wipe the sweat from their forehead when they sit on the bench...but the minute something doesn't go their way, they react like this. This type of behavior is a product of a new generation that has zero accountability for their actions or concern for their fellow man. Really, frustration? Its a game. They were losing for an hour plus, badly. If I get upset with a coworker at work, and get "frustrated" can I clock him and get away with it by claiming frustration? Get real. Those guys are thugs, no matter how many fundraisers they invite the media to while they sign casts and hug babies. Uneducated, classless thugs. If they do this on the court, what do you think they do to their wives and children when they get "frustrated"? I went to the game in Dallas to see basketball. It was a beautiful game, until spoiled athletes didn't get what they wanted and decided to throw a tantrum.

It's not reactive at all. There's way you can spin those plays.

all this time in the league and it's the same old thing for bryant.
he's learned nothing from his days with shaq.
i feel for drew and pau to have to play with ballhog
bryant.

Congratulations SocketWrench21 this is
"Are you for real Quincy....the frustrations they go through. It's a damn game. These athletes have their every whim catered too 99% of the time. They have someone to wipe the sweat from their forehead when they sit on the bench...but the minute something doesn't go their way, they react like this. This type of behavior is a product of a new generation that has zero accountability for their actions or concern for their fellow man. Really, frustration? Its a game. They were losing for an hour plus, badly. If I get upset with a coworker at work, and get "frustrated" can I clock him and get away with it by claiming frustration? Get real. Those guys are thugs, no matter how many fundraisers they invite the media to while they sign casts and hug babies. Uneducated, classless thugs. If they do this on the court, what do you think they do to their wives and children when they get "frustrated"? I went to the game in Dallas to see basketball. It was a beautiful game, until spoiled athletes didn't get what they wanted and decided to throw a tantrum."

And Bynum DID THE SAME THING back in January of 09 to Michael Beasley when they were playing my TWolves. It's not his first time. He was tossed then as well, and stripped off his shirt. He is a classless individual who has no concern for other people. He undercut Beasley then too, when he was in the air, defenseless. I imagine it's online somewhere. Bynum is a thug, plain and simple. He obviously doesn't think there is anything wrong with his actions.

Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum's acts were extremely inexcusable I do not support it nor do I want people in the future to do this. I have on thing to say I am a die heart Lakers fan. I love Lakers... This was Phil's last year and now it is all in the stupid trash can. Damn I would have been crying if I were him. Man I just hope dwight comes to the Lakers in the pre season we desperately need him. Gasol should'nt leave because we need a power forward but Odom should. Everything from there but Kobe should be changed. Lakers FOREVER

yeah those plays were cheap and etc but the people blew it out of proportion they were just frustrated if it was LA getting ready to sweep Dallas and it was the other way around Mavs players would be pulling the same crap. even though like it matters because the lakers this off season r gonig to blow up the team and those guys might not even be a laker regardless even thoguh i actually think andrew bynum will still be here but him and kobe will be the only left overs

Come on are you serious? Odom's foul is a love tap, lmao..... Bynum you def. have to look at what to do with him.... But Odom's foul? Ron Artest's foul the other day was worst than that by a 1000

"Any person with a brain knows that it is impossible to hit 90% of your 3 point shots even in a gym alone by yourself."


Troll Man, well said.

Have to admire Barea's class in not being theatrical about it. He lay there for a while, gathered himself and got back up.

MM,


It's obvious you're no Laker fan, you're prone to exaggerate every bad Laker moment, this is no different.


Lamar's block was in no way "disgraceful."


When did you start watching NBA basketball?

In 2006?


Back in the '80's these sorts of plays were rather normal.


I guess that they will just have to fine Bynum and Odom because they have no more games this year. I guess suspensions don't carry over from one season to another. Both of those were Bush League cheap shots but well deserved. I am proud of both of them. They both should be Lakers for Life. Go Celtics. BEAT LA

Mark, while Odom lost his head for a moment, it wasn't so bad. He was clearly not trying to hurt Dirk, but to send a message. Recall the comment at the time that they had just had words. Likely Lamar's way of saying, don't talk smack as you're already blowing us out, and not my fault what we don't have guards that can play a lick of defense.

Bynum is, however, a different story. This is his third, following the Beasley and Wallace incidents. He will surely receive a both a hefty fine and a lengthy suspension.

Lastly, for the Boston crowd, please, have the doubtful grace and remain silent. Lest I remind you all of McHale doing the same to Rambis.

1. Odom's foul was a hard moving pick. Was it a foul? Yes. Was it flagrant? Probably. But I don't think it deserved getting thrown out, much less this ridiculous hyperbole. Odom was frustrated down by 30 in the fourth quarter of a sweep, with Dirk still on the court. I would be too.

2. Drew's foul was bad. The only reason Odom's is more than mentioned in passing is because Drew's that followed it was in the air and to the body, intended to hurt. Bad play. A few games of suspension, at least, and a hefty fine. And we move on.

Medina, I like and appreciate your insight, but the whole "moral judge" of the Lakers thing is getting tired. Every player who has a bad play (or gets caught on a closeup using a particular word) apparently needs to beg forgiveness from the media. Should Bynum apologize? Yes, definitely. But enough hyperbole. These aren't the worst fouls ever, and I don't think they will or should "tarnish their reputations". If sportswriters spent the next few months talking about them, they might, but I don't think so. Drop it.

I love Andrew Bynum, more and more everyday.


His play is getting better and the guy has heart! What do you expect, they were getting embarrassed. I feel bad for JJ Brea, but it's his fault he's only 4 feet tall. I'm not being serious, but at least Bynum showed passion and heart! The others were just taking the whipping and taking it. Andrew was like, 'enough!'


You have to respect the guy for not wanting to take the punishment any more!


And Magic Johnson is really starting to bug me. He acts like he speaks for the Lakers, this guy is a media whore. And sounds bitter (after all, he's always wanted Cupcake's job).


I wish he would just shut the hell up!

pompous azz sore losers

All you people defending Bynum and Odom, you need to listen to his ESPN interview. He has no remorse, no concern for the safety of Barea, and actually tries to justify what he did because they were losing. No question he is a thug. A forgivable offense if it hadn't happened several times before, and if afterwards he showed some remorse. Instead, he defines the play as the game of basketball. No place for that in the sport, professional or not. WWF maybe. At least he might have apologized for his actions. He also pulls that crap on the smallest guy on the floor when he is completely defenseless. Same as twice before. Love to see him take on someone his own size one of these days. There is a reason he always picks on the smaller guys.

Haven't felt this bad over a sporting event, since Ralph Brancas's fastball to Bobby Thompson, aided by the centerfield scout in the Polo Grounds club house.

Troll Man writes:

"So as a GM Mitch Kupchak saved a few million dollars by signing players to cheap contracts and letting Farmar and Sasha go... Now how many millions will Buss lose because there will be no more playoff home games... Mitch really screwed this up bigtime. No excuses. Dr. Buss must be livid."


Agreed.


But it's Buss's fault as well, even though I firmly believe Mitch stinks. Notoriously, Buss has been very cheap when it comes to role players. Don't get me wrong, when it comes to paying his stars like Kobe, he'll dish out the big bucks, but he's always shied away from bringing in pricey role players. As if he thinks his stars should win it all -- all by themselves!


It's really wierd. Even the Shaq and Kobe Lakers always needed help, but Buss would stand pat at the trading deadline and not reload, until they finally lost to the Spurs in 2002-2003, when the Spurs reloaded with Stephen Jackson and Speedy Claxton. The following off-season, the Lakers brought in the "dream team" of Malone and Payton.


Buss is kind of cheap when it comes to paying more luxury taxes (that's the only reason they let Sasha go, to save money). Cuban doesn't care, he'll dish out millions as long as he increases his chance of winning. Then again, they say Cuban is a billionaire and Buss is not.


Dallas's bench scored 86 points tonight.
The Lakers as a team scored 86 points!


Role players, Mr. Buss, make a huge difference!!!

I can't believe the Bynum apologists on this site. He threw a fore arm at a guy who had left his feet and was defenseless. He easily could have come down and broken a bone or even hit his head and got seriously hurt. You don't cheap shot somebody like that when they're in the air.

I've played with guys like Bynum, that have no character and implode when the get frustrated. It absolutely says everything about a person when they are willing to go to those extremes. He's a disgrace to the Lakers organization.

punk play by bynum.

Wow Medina. I respect your perspective usually. But talk about hyperbole. One play, however ill advised is not going to determine their future with the team or define their character. Ron-Ron has made great strides since the 'melee', the rather mild non-intentional forearm withstanding. Yes today's plays were intentional but people are human. Real overreaction Mark.

Could we trade MM to Toronto for this traitorous article?

Is MM the new Simers?

Man, am I disappointed to say the least. The unnecessary roughness at the end of a rout is of course unnecessary. Now comes the hard part - what will Buss and Kupchak do? will they package a deal to bring D Howard to the Lakers? Will they try the same to bring CP3 to the West Coast? Luke, Blake, Ratliff, and Gasol are goners. Speaking of P Gasol, what the hell U take or who took your binky? U looked lost all playoffs and no one man can do it alone. U were counted upon and you looked like U took some salt/softpeter - no testosterone whatsoever. And I have been the one defending U saying that U were not soft but man did U wilt like a rose in 100 degree heat. U making everyone look like geniuses by saying U are soft and I was hoping u proved them wrong. I hope the report about some girlfriend kicked U to the curb is not true. Cuse my French but U can buy the best p-thang on a whim on a hot Saturday night in LA or next door in Vegas. I am so disgusted right now but the problems can be fixed.

I'd take Bynum and Odom's passion, as mis-directed as it is, over Gasol's sleepwalk.

I've been a Laker fan since the 60s. Odom and Bynum were absolutely disgraceful.

To you idiots claiming either were "sending a message" or "showing passion" - you know nothing about basketball or sports.

There's a way to both "send a message" and "show passion"-- with YOUR PLAY. You don't start shoving people around when you're 30 points down in the 4th quarter - you PLAY BETTER. How did either one think that getting themselves ejected was going to help their team?

I'd pawn both of them off on whatever teams are stupid enough to take them. They showed their true character - none.

"Lastly, for the Boston crowd, please, have the doubtful grace and remain silent. Lest I remind you all of McHale doing the same to Rambis."

They wouldn't be Bostons fans if they weren't doing something obnoxious. Like Philly fans. Teams that don't win that much but all of a sudden win a few games love talking smack. Do you ever see the New York Yankees fans, even though they are semi rivals of the Dodgers pouring it on whenever the Dodgers lose? That's why Giants fans, after finally winning one, want to talk trash. That's what sucks about these crappy teams finally winning one. Like the Red Sox. Just wait a few years and when Boston returns to obscurity, they can go back to bashing their own team.

I never said it reflected their character. In fact, I said it didn't. All I'm saying is this isn't helping their case when the Lakers look to readjust their roster this offseason. I imagine that the Lakers are going to change their foundation. As Magic said, with exception to Kobe, no one on the team is protected from a trade.

One act of frustration at the end of a 4 game sweep and let's trade 2 of our most valuable players? Are you nuts? It's getting really hard to respect your articles. One mistake and your done? None of us have a chance in your world. How narrow can you get?

This game encapsulated the Lakers' entire season: consistent inconsistency and the inability to win big games. Who could be truly shocked? No one who really followed the team this season and understood that there was some thing -- or several things -- missing. The lack of a consistent bench certainly played a role. (Jordan and Sasha, you were missed!) Kobe too often reverted to selfishness, taking too many shots, even when they clearly weren't falling. Drew played well in spurts -- and "really well" not nearly enough. And Pau simply disappeared at the worst possible times. As for the way the team lost today? Brings back memories of the embarrassing playoff losses to Phoenix in '06 and Boston in '08. That said, there was no excuse for LO's and Drew's classless reactions. They deserved to be tossed. Don't think their bonehead plays tarnished the Laker name? I bet Magic, Cooper, Jerry West, Kareem and Big Game James feel otherwise.

Well done MM!

Hope we trade these low lifes Andrew, Lamar, and if possible (due to lack of interest from other teams) Ron from our team. Mitch has proven to be the worst GM of NBA. This was the most embaressing performance Lakers played the whole year, not just the last series with Dallas.

LA deserve to have a better team. Let's see what he will do next year!!!

Pete,

did you say the same thing when Brian Cardinal body slammed Shannon Brown to the floor in the regular season. He made no play on the ball. The ball was up high, and Cardinal tackled Brown to the floor. Was Cardinal called for a flagrant? Was he suspended? Nope. 2 shots. Why aren't you outraged about that???

heh, kobe is the one they should trade.

How can anyone defend or rationalize this away? 100% gutless and low class. It's as simple as that.

Let's start a get MM off the blog petition? Traitor.

All of you Bynum and Odom bashers, get a life!


This guy says he's a Laker fan since the 60's, man, did you watch basketball in the '80's??? This sort of stuff was routine in those days. The guy just lost his cool, you wanna ship him out to Siberia!


Bynum showed heart, albeit misguided. But if that was me, I couldn't take the pounding either. While all the others took the whooping, Bynum didn't want any more of it -- as simple as that really!


"Disgraceful?"


Some of you posters are disgraceful!

"bynum was a true disgrace to the Laker franchise. Disrespecting his entire team, including the Buss Family and coaching staff. Taking off your jersey when you haven't even hit the tunnel. BYNUM, you are not welcome back by true Laker fans. You've always been a liability and that will never change."

Get a grip. YOU'RE NOT a true fan.

"One act of frustration at the end of a 4 game sweep and let's trade 2 of our most valuable players? Are you nuts? It's getting really hard to respect your articles. One mistake and your done? None of us have a chance in your world. How narrow can you get?"

Exactly. That's why he's not the GM. Trade Bynum for Howard, but don't panic and trade Gasol. When Gasol is finished crying it out and a few pints of Hagen Daas after getting over his break up, he'll be back.

"I'd pawn both of them off on whatever teams are stupid enough to take them. They showed their true character - none."

Thank God Bob isn't GM. Typical panic mode behavior. With Bob as GM, we would have traded Bynum for Kidd, no rings, no Gasol, lottery.

I've been a Laker fan and supporter since the mid eighties. I celebrated their dominance in the showtime era, watched and supported them through the miserable 90's with Vlade, Cambel, Parker, and Kwame. We were treated to the gifts of success in the PJ era and as Laker fans we should be thankful for all that the purple and gold has given to us. But today was as shameful a day as any I have ever seen in pro sports. No heart, no character, and no respect for the Laker legacy. I'm with Magic, blow this team up and re-build. Get rid of the head cases in Drew and Ron. Hopefully we could get something for Gasoft, although after this series probably not. My only hope is that management does not retire Kobe the way they did Phil. And if punk Bynam is in a Laker uniform next year, my 25+ years as a fan are over.

When a team is down 30 points in the 4th, and the winners are doing EVERYTHING perfectly, the losers on occasion may, just may, act like losers.

The Dallas Mavericks have proven themselves and then some. Their bench is the envy of the Lakers, and a secret weapon about whose depth and agility I had no real idea. I take my hat off to Dallas: they completely whipped the reining Champion Lakers.

But as a Lakers fan, I never wanna go through another game like this again. Ever. All right? Let's do what we need to do, and do it quickly.

Worst. Game. Ever.

"This thread is a troll magnet, and I don't use that term "troll" very often."

I agree, and let's thank MM for giving them the ammunition to fire away.

@lakers-17
1. Congrats to MM on an objective article. I know that is not usually allowed in lakerland, but "traiterous?" Dude, get a life.
2. "After a team wins a few games..." ah, hello, 17 titles here 11 there!
3. "you don't see Yankees fans throwing in Dodgers faces...?" NO, those obnoxious jerks just save it for Red Sox fans....even after we handed them the most humbling loss in the history of pro sports (2204 - down 3-0 and losing in the 8th inning!!)

mitch call fedex up right now and ship out lamar,pau,and luke walton and #1 pick to orlando for d howard

Read what I actually wrote. I never said the Lakers should get rid of them. I never said they're not good players. I said what they did was irresponsible and classless. I mentioned that this might hurt their standing with the team because Kupchak is likely going to make roster changes. Having this as a the last he remembers during the team's playoff run isn't a good thing

How about the next time Bynum/Odom play on a playoff qualifying team, they get suspended for the entire length of the playoffs that year.

Lakers finally play an elite team in the second round and are destroyed in 4 games. end of story

 
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