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Laker report cards: Ron Artest

61327628Exit interviews take place at the Lakers' practice facility in El Segundo on Tuesday and Wednesday, so we'll provide audio clips as quickly as possible and news/feature items from all the interviews with video later in the day.

But we don't have to wait for that before providing an assessment of the Lakers' roster. Here is the first edition of Laker report cards, beginning with Laker forward Ron Artest.

Grade: C +

The simple narrative that Artest rested on his laurels after winning his first NBA championship, thanks in part to his own Game 7 heroics in the 2010 Finals, proves misleading. There's no doubt Artest felt vindicated in overcoming the toxic reputation that followed him after the "Malice at the Palace" in 2004. There's also no doubt Artest felt he gained more respect within the organization and the general public with his Game 7 performance and used it as a platform to tout his advocacy for mental health issues. But it's inaccurate to argue that Artest entered the 2010-2011 season without the same hunger and focus.

No, what plagued Artest this season was trying to do too much. He slimmed down to 250 pounds in the offseason and constantly worked out after games so he could stay mobile to keep up with younger and faster players. He spread himself thin with his mental health advocacy, which included holding a ring raffle and releasing a mix tape, believing the attention after Game 7 would give him the best opportunity to tout his cause. And he constantly worked on his shooting after practice trying to overcome the struggles that plagued him in a career-low 8.5 points per game average on 39.7% shooting.

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Some thought this all hit rock bottom for Artest when a Yahoo Sports report indicated he had a verbal confrontation with Lakers Coach Phil Jackson about his public needling; but if anything, the incident strengthened Jackson's understanding on how to properly coach Artest. It also gave Artest a better appreciation that Jackson was simply trying to get the best out of him. There's a definite correlation between that issue and his decision to cut down on his off-court workouts after the All-Star break and  he appeared more engaged on offense and played more consistently on defense.

The statistics might not reflect that, given that his scoring average and shooting percentage before the All-Star break (9.8 points, 39.6%) and after (7.9 points, 39.7%) were similar. But the difference appeared noticeable on the court.

That same mind set carried over into the first round of the playoffs, where he surprisingly was the team's most consistent player, averaging 11.8 points on 50% shooting. But the optimism that came with his scaled-back workouts and better understanding of how to "fill the gaps," as Jackson put it, quickly dwindled away. Against Dallas, Artest reverted to completely unhealthy habits in shot selection (eight points on 32%), defense (constantly pushing Dirk Nowitzki) and keeping his composure (getting a one-game suspension in Game 3 for clotheslining Mavericks guard J.J. Barea in final seconds of Game 2).

The challenging part about gauging Artest's progress and measuring his worth to the team is that he really was like what Forrest Gump said about a box of chocolates: "You never know what you're going to get." No one anticipated Artest making a put-back in Game 5 of the 2010 Western Conference Finals against Phoenix after taking an ill-advised three-pointer moments earlier. No one believed he'd be the most composed and reliable Laker in Game 7 last year. And no one believed he would throw down fast-break dunks in regular-season games against Phoenix and the Clippers. 

But to blame Artest's shortcomings on him being distracted is all too simple. No, the episode that best exemplified his disappointing season was Artest scoring seven consecutive points in the third quarter of the Lakers' Game 4 loss Sunday, then missing a dunk on a fast break because he couldn't hit the rim. Artest's intentions were great and he gave an honest effort, but his attention to detail and his declining abilities provided more aggravating moments for the Lakers than joyful ones. 

-- Mark Medina

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Top photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest goes for the steal against Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki in the first half of Game 1 on May 2 at Staples Center. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times 

Bottom photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest tries to drive past Kings forward Donte Greene in the first half of the Lakers' season-finale against the Sacramento Kings. Credit: Jed Jacobsohn / Getty Images / April 13, 2011

 
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D.

1-8 in Game One. Nuff' said.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Ron Arrest deserves better, he was brought in to play defense and that's exactly what he did...if Arrest gets a C, then kobe get's a C-

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The End of an Era


As the sun sets on Phil Jackson's career I'd like to thank him. Thanks, Phil, for helping the franchise almost surpass the Celtics in terms of total championships won. Thanks Phil for trusting and getting the most out of Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, and Luke Walton. Thanks for thrilling wins and head-scratching losses, no matter the outcome I've always enjoyed the ride.


Thanks for giving Kobe another chance (Kobe, thanks for making the most of a second chance, as well) to prove he is the player he believes himself to be. This latest hiccup in your legacy, though undeserving, didn't morph out of thin air. This Laker team has been playing with fire since 2008-09 when they waltzed into the Finals thinking we had Boston's number. We didn't and the lessons on over confidence were never, truly, learned.


I'm sorry your last Laker game was so appalling on so many levels but breaking up is always hard to do and so the messy factor here shouldn't be over-analyzed. The players respected and admired Phil, they felt terrible about the way they were sending him off, ergo, they did stupid, out of character things. If that had been KG delivering that forearm to Barea he'd be lauded for his tough, no-quit attitude but the Lakers always get the short end of the national media stick, now with Magic evidently leading the negative charge. Strange times indeed.


When October rolls around and we head into a bright, new season with some new parts, a new coach and an old goal I'll remember Phil Jackson for all his zingers, for his cool demeanor and his love of the pure aspects of the game of basketball. A sport I consider to be the best on Earth. I'll wish the new coach and team well, as I do every year, but I'll feel a tinge of regret that Phil didn't get to a nice, even number. It's all good, like Phil said recently: "It's a game."


Have a good summer, all. Jon K, remember to breathe :-)


GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!

Ron Artest could be moved. His D would fit well on a team on the cusp, but given his inconsistencies on O, he would need to be packaged with either Gasol or Bynum.

Depending upon the new collective bargaining agreement, Pau is not untradeable if and only if it was off the court issues that caused his demise in the playoffs. How many times has a player imploded psychologically and resurrected his career by switching teams. (If it was also his knee, then they would have to assess that too.)

If and only if Kobe (and whomever else Pau believes wronged him) can't work things out off-season (sooner rather than later), then I say go after Kevin Love. Since Kevin McHale is no longer with the team to nix the deal and Love is rumored to receive a 5 year $70 million contract extension, it may be workable as a sign and trade.

The Lakers, albeit getting smaller in the front court, would be getting a strong rebounder (offensively and defensively) and a scorer. A 20-10 guy. LO could start at the 3 and the team would become much quicker at both ends of the court.

Pau would give the T-Wolves size, experience and versatilty at the power forward. This is a possible sell for the T-Wolves (especially running the triangle) since, even with Love, they can't make the playoffs yet. All this is contingent on selling the T-Wolves on Pau's issues being off-the-court and that the T-Wolves are interested in making the playoffs sooner rather than later. Pau is still in his prime physically so that the T-Wolves would be getting an all-star with championship experience.

Again, I'm saying this should be explored if Pau can't resolve his issues with Kobe, et al, in the next few weeks.

For those of you that ask what I've been smoking. The answer is nothing. But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express.

Stranger trades have been made...

[INSERT EMPTY VOID HERE]

I'm still trying to recover from the shock of the last post. Kobe as 1st team all-defense? That is beyond laughable. I didn't realize you could get on the 1st team all-defense by merely playing defense every 5th game.

Clearly opposing coaches are trying to incite Kobe to continue to play his gambling style of defense that breaks down the defense and allows guards to get into the lane.

@ROCKY ... Pau Gasol for Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio? Where do we sign up? LOL
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@BAKO LAKERS FAN... You probably need to give me all summer to forgive Pau. I was also among those at the start of the year who felt Pau was the best power forward in the game. Had he played like the last two years, we would still be playing. Can one player destroy the chemistry of the team and cause the rest of the team to play poorly on both defense and offense. Yes, chemistry requires trust and like Drew said, when there is no trust, teamwork disappears and play deteriorates.
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While I blame Pau for all of this, there were other culprits. Drew mailed it in during Game 4 and them went out in a shameful manner. Kobe had no fourth quarter magic this year. Lamar played like the Lamar from prior years rather than the winner of the 6th Man of the Year award. Fish had no more clutch left, Blake choked miserably, Brown showed why he will never start, and Barnes looked like he never recovered from the last knee injury. When chemistry is fouled, teamwork fails.
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TOM


What do we need?
Its simple - more youth and energy.
I have been living in NorCal the last few years (and yes all my Warrior friends up here are giving me such sh*t after that awful game yesterday) but I think the 2 teams could help each other.
Gasol and Blake for Curry (with an extension to balance the $$) and David Lee.

Our new lineup:
PG - Curry
SG - Kobe
PF - Artest
SF-Odom
C-Bynum

Bench - Lee, Fisher, and resign Brown and Barnes

Gives us youth and athleticism at the 1 to balance the Roses and JJBarreas in the league, youth and athleticism at the 5, and veteran experience at the 2, 3 , and 4 - a perfect blend. Plus Curry will be an all-star with Fish and Kobe mentoring him .
And it helps the Warriors - gives them experience in the backcourt and an All-Star big man (their greatest need) to go with scoring machine Monta Ellis.
Do it!

Triangulator,

I'm not convinced why MN would want to trade Love for Pau.
Love is a 22 yr old up and coming star who averaged 20/15 this year and also made 42% of his 3's.

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Tim-4-Show

I'm also glad veterans like you still around on one of the darkest days. Regarding trading Pau, ask yourself, would you pay Pau salary of franchise player? This is exactly how much Pau is making for the next 3 years - close to 60M. So in truth, Lakers indeed in bad shape, because in 2 salaries, for Pau and Kobe they tight up close to 2/3 of NBA cap, around 44M per year. Easiest thing to do, is to trade Drew, he has a one year left on his contract with the following year as a team option. The big question, is it a right thing to do? I disagree with Magic, when he said this team needs to be blown. It’s easy for him to say after he sold his stake in Lakers and does not have any vested value in this team. It was a comment from Magic sports commentator, not a Magic shrewd business owner. Lakers need some tweaks, and they need a couple of good perimeter shooters. How to accomplish this, with so much money tight in so few contracts, Mitch really have to get creative. It’s another thing why I don’t understand people cursing Mitch. Yes he had some mistakes, Luke’s contract for example. But when he signed Steve Blake, he and majority of Lakers fans thought we’re getting Steve Blake circa Portland or Clips, when he was lighten up Lakers all those years. Does Mitch had the way to predict the future? I don’t recall anyone cursing him last summer. With labor dispute and real possibility of short season or no season at all this all looking like murky water as of now.


I don't know about you guys, but whenever the Lakers lose in the playoffs, I quit watching basketball. I pretty much quit watching TV all together. I just don't care who wins now. I hope Miami fails. Chicago? Boston? Who cares? If it aint L.A., it aint O.K.

It's been real, y'all.

Thanks!

Don't Blame Del Harris!

If any moment summed up the series, it was Ron Artest missing an uncontested runaway dunk in the second half.

{Pain}

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

- Tony Montana fell in the end of Scarface;
- Alexander The Great hit the wall in India;
- The Roman Empire imploded;

Why wouldn't this team fall? By reading Phil's comments after the game, all the answers are there: he said something about a bigger challenge the team couldn't handle; he said he was happy it ended & and he agreed with Kobe that it was better this way than being humiliated in the finals.

This team when it mattered most lacked heart & soul!

I never looked at a playoff series this way, but that 1st game was a death sentence, no doubt. After having the game in the hands it slipped away and so the series.


The father of Taoism said:

"Do the difficult things while they are easy and
do the great things while they are small.
- Lao Tzu"


But still no matter what the FO decides to do, split or keep the players.
I will support the team! I will enjoy the last playing years by Kobe Bryant!

GO LAKERS!

Artest was never able to follow up on his game seven prowess against the Celtics last playoffs.
I still believe he was a square peg trying to fit in the round hole. He was not suited for either Jackson's offensive or defensive scheme. Artest could probably shoot better, but he has never been a spot up three-point shooter.
Occasionally he played some great one on one defense, and made steals, but when put in Jackson's Helter Skelter defense he was as lost as all the others.

It is really a joke to name Kobe to the best defensive team, this award was probably given for past achievements, not for what he did this year. Whether it was because of his knee surgery or whatever mental issue, he did not play the type of defense he used to in the past. Again, check Jackson's defensive scheme, the Lakers guards got killed over and over on the pick and rolls and guard penetration, not just in the Maverick series, during the entire season.

to: Jon Groinboy K.:

You got your pitiful butt SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPTTTTT.
You ain't got nothing. This era is over. The lakers are a footnote - and by that i mean they stink.

Jon K,

Can we try to keep the talk about basketball? Your labeling of Vanessa, Pau's (ex?)-fiancee, and women in general based on internet rumors and hearsay is disturbing.

Not only do we not know the circumstances behind Pau's relationship, we don't even know if it ended. Maybe he cheated on her, maybe she just walked out on him, maybe they're still happily together, who knows?

The Lakers lost on the court and that's really the extent to which it is any of our business. If Pau comes out and blames all of this on Kobe or Vanessa, then maybe we can discuss it. Until then, let's talk about how they lost the game ON THE COURT and how the Lakers can move ahead going forward.

Somehow I'm pretty sure that ain't the real MM...jut sayin'

ITS NOT AN END OF AN ERA

In 2009, the year of the first championship the Lakers struggled as a team until Luke Walton became starter. This team needed the ball movement that Luke provided in order to "maximize the potential" (no joke) . Luke is a real team glue guy, catalist, who acted like a reset button that year. The moment he became a starter the Lakers started wining and had a ton of chemistry again and it was safe for Ariza to become starter again as the team had attained that sought after chemistry.

I did not see any chemistry towards the end of this season. It was a big mistake not to have played Luke some minutes this post season as Luke has always made other guys on the team better because he provides TRUST and a BELIEF in your teammates

BELIEF IS GAME CHANGING: That belief in your teammates becomes contagious and it translates to a stronger belief that your shot will go inside the hoop and a belief that you will as a team slow down the opposing team's offense.

Next year the Lakers should again reinsert Luke sporadically when there's no CHEMISTRY. Or get a guy like a Nash or a Vasquez who make excellent decisions with the ball. If nobody believes me, then how is it that last summer when they drafted a glue guy like Vasquez I predicted this Grizzlies (who were missing a glue guy) who were ranked from 25th I said would be a top 8 team by end of the season, which is exactly where they were in the semi's this year. Some players like Luke Walton exist to make other players better and begin a culture of belief in TEAM!!! Even if Luke never scores he will make the whole a lot better and nobody will every give him credit.

I would also suggest the team to work on speed by getting a boxing coach (very serious about this ask Lamar Odom) to run through drills for all foot lateral food speed and even boxing speed. SPEED SPEED SPEED is crucial next year.

Also begin sprinting drills and push to get quicker times every week on sprinting (ask Westbrook about it). Adapt or loose again.

Rubio for Gasol? Are you nuts?

I think Artest did actually quite good. Yes, he missed a lot of shots, but he's not out there for offense. He also made some key shots, and he was good defensively. I like Artest, and I think his grade should be a solid B.

And that is why we have moderation Jon K. LOL.

I feel like Hugo - now I can become more productive in the next few weeks instead of scheduling things around Laker games. Now if I can just cut back on the LAT blog addiction...

"What do we need?
Its simple - more youth and energy.
I have been living in NorCal the last few years (and yes all my Warrior friends up here are giving me such sh*t after that awful game yesterday) but I think the 2 teams could help each other.
Gasol and Blake for Curry (with an extension to balance the $$) and David Lee.


Posted by: Jay Jay | May 09, 2011 at 01:53 PM "

Did you ask your Warriors friends what they thought of that trade offer? I would guess they were all against it.

@Rocky, I must confess that I didn't read your post on Love and Rubio until after I posted my thoughts and then read LakerTom's post. Great minds think alike.

However, I doubt very seriously that the T-Wolves would give up the rights to Rubio. However, Pau going to the T-Wolves would be an incentive for Rubio to join their team. That might very well be the selling point for trading Love to the Lakers.

HOWEVER, I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS...

@Rocky, I must confess that I didn't read your post on Love and Rubio until after I posted my thoughts and then read LakerTom's post. Great minds think alike.

However, I doubt very seriously that the T-Wolves would give up the rights to Rubio. However, Pau going to the T-Wolves would be an incentive for Rubio to join their team. That might very well be the selling point for trading Love to the Lakers.

HOWEVER, I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS...

MM, with moderation on, how did your handle get jacked again? (see 2:11 PM post)

As far as Artest goes, his suspension proved his worth. No different outcome with him on the court or off vs. DAL.

Perhaps J-Kidd was more deserving of being an all-defensive team starter instead of coby. That 38-year-old bottled up the LA star without much help.

Where is the blog that examines Dallas' newfound power? They just made the lakers irrelevant without their starting SG. I think we all owe DAL a big round of congrats here.


On another note, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted the way our local media has attacked so viciously Andrew Bynum. Yes, he made a bad foul, but he's a Laker, and he was angry and frustrated like the rest of us, and he wanted to fight and make a point, and he chose the wrong way to do it. But I know other players have done worse, and they were celebrated for their actions by their teams and their cities, not villanized like LA has done. I'm sick of ESPN talk radio, those damned jerks, and even Magic Johnson, for their relentless attacks on Bynum.

Bynum, I 100% stand by you. Thank you for having the balls to be aggressive, for playing hard, and for getting better out there. I'm so sorry that so many people in Los Angeles are attacking you. Just know that most true Laker fans stand by you, and appreciate you.

As for the new coach

1. Something tells me Brian Shaw would be a better coach on any other team than Mike Brown but that didn't have his friend Kobe Bryant on it. They are too familiar with each other :(

2. Mike Brown is hungrier and not as familiar with Kobe than Shaw. But Shaw will be a good coach and maybe even a great one but only after Kobe is gone. (Business and pleasure don't mix well ask PJ.)

It's friggin UN-BELIEVABLE how many people voted for Brian Shaw as the next Laker coach.

Have you all lost your mind? Just exactly what make you think Brian Shaw will bring the championship back to LA? What are his qualifications and proven track record?

First off he was part of the LOUSY Laker coaching that could NEVER figure out how to deal with the pick n roll, and more generally how to play TEAM DEFENSE.

Secondly he was part of the crappy Triangle system. If Phil Jackson couldn't make it work and ended up with the franchise completely humiliated in a playoff sweep, how is Brian Shaw going to be able to do any better?

Last but not least, Shaw has NEVER had head-coaching experience nor any proven track record. How is he going to get the respect from a veteran team with many players almost as old as he is? If Phil could not motivate the team to play hard and hustle how is Brian going to do it?

The Lakers NEED to hire a big time, big name coach with lot of proven track record and credibility.

What needed to be blown up is the stoopid lousy coaching staff. The team just needs a few tweaks that's all.

If it's between Pau and Bynum, you have to keep Bynum. Get Howard and play Howard at the 4. They're both young, aggressive, and improving. Pau is a mental wimp that is declining in skill, gets tired too easy, has no physical/mental fortitude, and is getting old.

Why is this a not obvious?

Don't Blame Del Harris!

I'm with you on watching bbal, season is over, what the point?

OKAAY!! Lets move on! Get rid of Drew and fisher.Bring Dwight Howard and Chris Paul! We will get back up! GO! LAKERS!

Art, I said stranger things have happened. The big if is whether the T-Wolves want to make a move to the playoffs immediately or wait.

Pau's contract expires in 2014 (3 seasons from now) and he is 30. He'll be a prime player those years (unless he's completely melted down psychologically). Pau could be an immediate difference maker for that team--he knows the triangle, has more post skills than Love and a new venue for him may be just what the psychologist prescribes.

Plus, his fellow Spaniard, Rubio, would have more incentive to make the jump to the NBA.

I didn't say it will happen. I'm just saying it's worth exploring given the issues off court that have arisen. Better to trade now, if possible, than to wait two more years if things are going to continue to spiral outta control.

Whether that's enough for the T-Wolves to deal is beyond any of our visionary prowess.

BUT I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS...

@ Laker Tom - I have to disagree with your assertion that we would still be playing had Pau been playing at a little higher level. Give him 5 more points and 4 more rebounds a game at a about 8-10% better shooting percentage and you think that fixes all the problems of this postseason. The Lakers could not hit a three, that has absolutely nothing to do with Pau Gasol. The threes the Lakers took were wide open and the guards, except Kobe, and small forwards for the Lakers could not hit an open shot the entire playoffs. Dis Pau play poorly, yes he did, but was this all Pau's fault, not even close. Does Pau defend Peja, Jason Terry, or Barea, last I checked that is a huge no. No one can guard Dirk and to illustrate that point during game 3 Pau actually played decent defense on the guy and still got torched. The Lakers problems were that besides Kobe and Pau, who can create? I love what Bynum showed this postseason but throw the ball into him on a double team and watch him struggle to fight through two defenders just to throw up a prayer. Bynum might be able to kick out like Dwight to three point shooters but that brings me back to the real problem, lack of any shooters on the Lakers.

Magic Johnson...STFU!

MM, somehow I ended up with a double post @ 2:35PM. It's been a long time since I've seem that happen. Could you please delete the duplicate. Thanks...

Bay to LA,

I was listening to "Mason & Ireland" on 710AM and they basically said exactly what I've been talking about without saying it.

Ireland repeatedly stated "It looks like Pau Gasol just had a really bad month" with that knowing tone of inference of "You know what I mean?" and repeatedly referred to rumors that "they didn't want to talk about."

Like usual, Bay to LA, you telling me you don't like the subject matter I communicate and want to keep things politically correct.

Again, I am going to ignore your whiney protests. If you don't like what I have to communicate, ignore my fricken posts, okay?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

"Did we all forget that the lakers have been to the Finals 3 straight years and they are 2-3?".

Posted by: RR | May 09, 2011 at 02:18 PM

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Did we forget that Jerry forked out $91 million this seaon, tops in the league behind Dallas so his players can focus on winning their 3rd; coach's 4th 3-Peat and Kobe's 6th? No excuses and no reason to think about their past accomplishments. It was all about this year... That's sports and that's business.

bronx – nice post at 12:48pm.

@Hugo – get that glove and enjoy the summer :-)

@DBDH – I still watch albeit not with the same 100% intensity as if the Lakers were still in it.

@Tri – Nice Ella/Louie selection.

@Jamie – excellent post saluting Phil.

Laker fans are 'interesting'. If a player from another team was selected by the NBA coaches to the All-Defensive Team, their fans would be ecstatic at that honor.

Kobe gets selected by the NBA coaches to the All-Defensive team and it gets ridiculed on this blog. Fascinating...

The Lakers will win more - at least - before Kobe retires.

it's 24 hrs later and i am sitting shiva (in mourning). just as there had been no consensus regarding the lakers all year, i certainly did not expect to see it now. there is one thing that there is agreement, however and that is that things will change. i cannot in good faith be selfish, and not give thanks for a hell of a run. this closes one thing and opens up to something else. that something else we do not know yet, and we are already agreeing and disagreeing on who to get and who to let go of.i'm also thinking of drew. HE TOOK OFF HIS SHIRT! it seemed at the moment that perhaps he wanted to take his talents elsewhere or maybe he was overwhelmed over not being trusted and just regressed. i have compassion for him, but as ricky would say he " has a lot of splaining to do", the first being the man he could have really hurt. i swear, when i saw it the second time, kermit and rudy jumped in my head and it scqared me what could have happened.

actually, i'm really thankful for all the good times i've had following the Lakers since 1969 and these last few years have been some of the best. assuming that there's a season next year, i look forward to another year of contention, and maybe another championship.

as to Pau's girlfriend, i'm pretty sure that she really did dump him in the playoffs. i don't really care what some might think about me speaking about it, if it's true, a pox on her for choosing this moment[laughter]. certainly Pau's play indicated a seriously depressed attitude. i'd go so far as to say that while JJ Berea, JT and Dirk certainly torched the Lakers, it's no exaggeration to say that Pau's MIA performance is what doomed the Lakers to defeat, even more so than the lack of production from the bench. well, maybe Steve Blake and Shannon Brown were the biggest disappointments...

it's nice that Lamar and Drew both felt embarrassed enough to finally plaster their opponents. sure it's poor sportsmanship, but a little more fire shown a lot earlier by the whole team really would have helped.

oh well, bottom line is, if God's against you, you can't win[more laughter]....

I agree, Jon K. That breakaway Artest non-dunk was a terrible momentum-killer. That would have cut the lead to 17... a manageable number, if not a score the Lakers could have overcome. I'm just saying, if the Lakers HAD managed to come back from that deficit and stun the Mavs at home, it would have been a story for the ages. Alas, it just didn't happen. Giving away Games 1 and 3 was the kiss of death.

Onward. Can't wait till next season.

Go Lake Show!

http://hellobeautiful.com/gossip-news/sweet-sweetback/kobe-bryant-pau-gasol-relationship/

There it is.

Great.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

My song for today is for Phil. Thanks for 11 years, 7 final appearances and 5 rings. You're one of a kind and will be missed...


Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcwYEGdKto8


(An incredible voice to celebrate an extraordinary coach)

@Jay Jay- I like your idea of Curry, a terrific point guard, but is he tradable? thats what i need to ask?

but I agree with Curry but not Lee, keep ODOM, trade Gasol nd Blake for currey!

I would agree with the C grade for Ron. He had glimpses where everything came together, particularly after the allstar break and in the New Orleans series, but he was inconsistent much of the year.

He came through last year but I think he's expendable now. If they could have Ariza back in his place, I think they'd jump at the offer.

HOWEVER, I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS...

Posted by: The Triangulator | May 09, 2011 at 02:35 PM

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rofl.

shouout to johnny, he has it right...the way this all ended, it had some of us thinking "maybe Luke should've played a little more?" because there was absolutely NO ball movement on offense...and NO movement AT ALL on defense, SMH.

also, too many big personalities on this team. too many for PJ to handle, surprisingly. they needed those glue guys on the floor, and Fisher alone wasn't enough to get the other guys to play nice for long enough to win another championship.

I'm sure we'll be back next year though, right along with all of the Lakers haters in tow. #Lakers4Life

http://www.wimp.com/hopemessage/

Probably a better message.

It's amazing how comfortable this guy is with himself.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

bring in allen iverson his speed and quickness on both sides of the ball would help and not to mention he can still break down defenses like the other premiere pgs in the league. He would come cheap but you would not have to trade a big man and hurt our teams length. Bring in Larry Brown as coach whom AI has even said he would play for again and is the best coach he ever had. A quick cheap Veteran pg who can still get by most guards in the league and a great veteran coach.

I want Artest back. He played well during the season AND he was the most consistent Laker in the New Orleans series.


Artest deserves to come back.

JonK --


Come on, man, as much as I want to blame Vanessa Bryant, and on some level I do think she's a freak, but how IMMATURE is Gasol if this is true?


He's a freaking professional -- how could he allow his personal life to DOMINATE his professional life, one which pays him gazillions of dollars!!! If this story is true, I'm afraid it's a FAR higher indictment on Pau Gasol than Vanessa Bryant! It really shows how fragile his mental state is -- we already know about his flimsy physical prowess!


Soft head and body!


Oh, boy...

bring in allen iverson his speed and quickness on both sides of the ball would help and not to mention he can still break down defenses like the other premiere pgs in the league. He would come cheap but you would not have to trade a big man and hurt our teams length. Bring in Larry Brown as coach whom AI has even said he would play for again and is the best coach he ever had. A quick cheap Veteran pg who can still get by most guards in the league and a great veteran coach.

Posted by: mike c | May 09, 2011 at 03:22 PM

not a good idea! first off AI is in turkey not even playing, his on the bench! he was already worn out thats why no NBA team would want him so your comments are a little irrelavant, it seems like your talking about the young AI with 76ers with lost of talent, and very ambitious. well, not anymore, his old and worn out, and he cannot get past quick point guards, watch some of his game that he played for BASKITAS in turkey! and youll see what im talking about! AI is a waste, theres a reason why he is in turkey playing off the bench.

I agree with Curry tough, he is crazy good at the PG position, he kind of reminds me Cp3's little brother, but i like the way he is with the ball in PG position, so you got my vote on curry, and since last years season start, when they said this is PHILS last stand, I picked Brian Shaw as our next couch, anyone better than him? to me, NO but to some there might be an alternative, BRIAN SHAW if he cant do it, no one can! all time laker, played with KOBE and been tought under PHIL J! what more credits do ya'll need??

The Outlaw,

It looks like the Lakers probably lost a third of their fan base yesterday.

I have multiple friends on Facebook who were diehard Lakers fans and some of them have begun posting things like "The Lakers are dead to me."

Wow.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Hello

Police here; finally the PSP made it through the 1000 or so comments that have been posted since last night ... so FraudMVP888 hasn't shown up yet? Well the warrant is still out, yello the PSP has procured a whip too!!

As for this moderation thing, the PSP will agree with Jon K et al. People get overly bent out of shape over stuff people say on a VIRTUAL BLOG for crying out loud. With insta post things flow much better, and conversations are more meaningful. It's really not that serious people, but like they say common sense is not that common.

Ermm what else, yeah so Philip is gone (is his son leaving with him too?). We basically need a quick, penetrating guard and an athletic forward that can slash and hit open shots. Our front line is perfectly fine if we can get rid of the personal issues.

Thanks
PSP El Presidente

This guy, "LongTimeLakerFan" --

Who writes as though anyone who's followed the Lakers less than he over the years must know nothing ("LongTime", right?) proposes this ASININE trade:


"Lakers trade Andrew Bynum to Golden State for Stephen Curry and Andris Biedrins."


LTLF, put down the pipe, bro! I wouldn't trade Bynum to Golden State for half their team, let alone Andris Biedrins, who couldn't score a bucket if his life depended on it and he was all alone under the basket!!!


Insanity!

Ludwig,

The same kind of thing happened to LeBron James and look how it affected him.

I don't know. If I was about to marry someone I loved and it all got ruined because of high school level gossip, it would be pretty hard for me to concentrate too.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

KEEP My Playa ARTEST! He's A Great Player...
LAKERS Need NEW and Better Coaching Style.

LongTime also says in another blog that Mitch Kupcake had no choice to trade for Joe Smith, because our big man was injured, which made a Peja deal unrealistic.


AS IF...


As if Phil Jackson was going to use Joe Smith in any meaningful minutes, with or without Andrew! Peja singlehandedly destroyed our season in game 3 when we were ahead by 8, looking at a possible 2-1 series in the 4th quarter with 6 minutes to go. Peja scored 11 points in that quarter -- down 0-3, end of the season!

This nonensense from a guy who actually posted a comment the other day CONGRATULATING Luke Freaking Walton for his contributions to this team!!!!


UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!


LUKE WALTON stinks!!!!

HE STINKS!!!!


Get that lousy SEMI-PRO GARBAGE outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE STINKS!!!


LUKE, retire, for the love of the Lakers!


YOU STINK!


STINK!!!!


STINK, I tell you!!!!


LUKE WALTON STINKS!!!

I don't think it's the teams decision on whether Matt or Shannon come back. I believe it's their option.

With that said, I would give Matt another chance since he was coming off the same midseason surgery that Farmar went through. Farmar didn't get his game back until into the next season. Matt was playing great for us until that injury. If he doesn't come back strong, then his expiring contract is good for trade bait.

As for Shannon, he probably will opt out unless there is a lockout shortened season. He faded without an injury excuse (at least that we know of). If he decides to stay, he could be used as trade bait immediately since his contact will also be expiring at the end of next season.

Just my two cents.

HOWEVER, I DID STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS...

I didn't see consistent effort and intelligent play from many of our Lakers this year and during the playoffs.
It's obvious Kobe is not what he once was. He rarely dunks or goes for layups anymore. Can he still do it? I'm not so sure.
It may be time for Kobe to become the second option going forward.

I do think Gasol will rebound back to his typical play of 20 points and 10 rebounds per game next season. He's still only 30 years old. Matt Barnes was doing really well before he got injured. He never really came back to full strength. He's a good defender and a tough player. He'll be ok next season as well.
I say it's time to say goodbye to Derek Fisher as a starting point guard. Either he moves to the bench and plays 15 to 20 minutes a game or he's let go. Ron Artest has never been comfortable in the triangle offense. Maybe with a new coach coming aboard they'll be a different variation of the triangle and Artest will go back to being a better offensive player. He has averaged 20 points a game in the past so it's not like he can't score. Or it may be time to have Artest go to the bench as well. Having Odom, Artest, Blake, Barnes, Brown and Fisher on the bench won't be so bad for one more season.

What the Lakers will need is a starting young and quick point guard who can distribute the ball and can score to help take some of the load off of Kobe. Someone who is a consistent three-point shooter but can quickly attack the defense with dunks and layups.
The Lakers will definitely need a backup big man. Mbenga was usable the past couple of seasons. Ratliff not so much. Gasol is much more effective playing 35 to 38 minutes a game now.
I do feel Bynum needs to go. I just don't appreciate his attitude and after the classless hit on JJ Barea yesterday, which looked a lot like his hit on Beasley earlier this year, he needs to be moved. At the age of only 23 and a skilled player who needs to stay healthy I do believe there are quite a few teams who'd love to have him and his upside. Orlando or the Nets perhaps? Come on down Deron Williams, or Dwight Howard!

Triangulator,

I wasn't criticizing your trade idea (didn't mean to come across that way if it did), just didn't seem realistic to me.

When I look at any trade scenarios I try to look at it from the other teams viewpoint and ask why would they do that. Your explanation of the Rubio connection does have some merit, but to trade an all-star 22 yr old for an aging 30 yr old, not so sure about.

Anyway, I like the trade ideas so keep 'em coming.
The blog is at least as good as MK with these trade ideas.

Jon K,

The only problem Pau has is he has a couple of cats.
They got to him.
The virus, you know.

Im for Artest and Barnes coming back next season!

JonK --


I hear you, bro, that would be devastating, but you would think basketball would provide you with a form of escape away from all the madness around us. You would hope Gasol would use basketball as a form of therapy, and for a few hours get away from all the craziness around us. It's a tough call...I just hope it's not true. I never had a good feeling about Vanessa ever since the Karl Malone saga. It was really creepy how it all went down. Malone and Kobe were such good friends before that, with Malone once calling Kobe his "little brother."


Even before that, KB's own parents didn't show up to their wedding. There's something about Vanessa Bryant. I just hope this is all a big hoax, because if it's true, it could create a very long-lasting rift between Gasol and Kobe, and who needs another installment of Shaq/Kobe!


Wierd.

I still feel like I've been punched hard in the stomach by Mike Tyson.

My selection today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pcNP9JE0bs

@LRob
I know you respect my opinion. My opinion: I felt your grades were way to lenient considering if our team was mentally cohesive during these playoffs, we would have put an old fashined beat down on the Mavs. Case in point: Our 30 point smashing of them in the reugular season.

Just in case I wasn't clear earlier, I just wanna say...


LUKE WALTON STINKS!


STINKS!

I would give Artest an F like all the other Lakers.
The goal was making the Finals.
They failed.

Ron has a focus issue and the legs are fading.
Not sure how much trade value he has left, but hopefully it gets explored.

Hopefully the new head coach will lay down the law at training camp, no more distractions, no reality shows, no rap albums, no more BS, just basketball.
Do that other stuff in the off-season.

Ludwig,

This is pure speculation on my part, but I can imagine that after the Colorado Incident that Vanessa became very controlling and decided to test Kobe when he became close with Karl Malone, it's one of those "It's him or me!" situations.

It seems that Pau and Kobe were very close. So Vanessa may have felt compelled to sabotage that relationship too out of a kind of jealous.

I don't know. I just know it's ugly and I feel sick inside right now.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Art,

If Pau's got the parasite, then it's obviously a key aspect of the story that the news is afraid to print due to the influence of the Cat Parasite Industrial Complex.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

"I have multiple friends on Facebook who were diehard Lakers fans and some of them have begun posting things like "The Lakers are dead to me."

These are not true Laker Fans- they are called FAIR WEATHER FANS or BANDWAGONERS!!!!!!

They might as well be Heat fans for all I care.

We don't need them.

And they are not welcome back when we win the Championship next year(if there is a next year season).

Kobe should grow his afro back and get some shapstick during the off season. Lamar Odom needs to stop lighting up the ganja like he did when he was a rookie with the Clippers. Lakers need to build around Bynum, the future of the lakers. Trade Pau Gasoft for catching feelings when Kobe's wife persuaded his girlfriend to dump Gasoft for being a trick.

Let's face it , the Mavericks game plan worked and we didn't have an answer.
We could easily be 2-2 right now if (we win game 1 and 3) it wasn't for some
stupid errors.

The only sad part about this is : HOW CAN THEY NOT RETIRE
THEIR COACH WITH SOME DIGNITY? REFLECT ON THAT GUYS!

THIS IS WHY I'M SO MAD AT THESE LAKERS

NO HEART!

I feel like I'm back in Junior High and my girlfriend just broke up with me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw4iuM1Zjxs&feature=related

By the way... Where's Kobe?

17pts ? I would rather see a selfish Kobe getting mad and start bombing
for 43 pts

At least we come out fighting and the game could be fun to watch


"Bay to LA,

I was listening to "Mason & Ireland" on 710AM and they basically said exactly what I've been talking about without saying it.

Ireland repeatedly stated "It looks like Pau Gasol just had a really bad month" with that knowing tone of inference of "You know what I mean?" and repeatedly referred to rumors that "they didn't want to talk about."

Like usual, Bay to LA, you telling me you don't like the subject matter I communicate and want to keep things politically correct.

Again, I am going to ignore your whiney protests. If you don't like what I have to communicate, ignore my fricken posts, okay?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | May 09, 2011 at 02:55 PM "

Were Mason & Ireland judging and criticizing Vanessa and Pau's (ex??)-fiancee and bashing women as a whole? I doubt it. You know nothing about what actually happened and you're taking sides and recklessly assigning blame based on internet rumors and preconceived notions. This is a basketball blog, not TMZ.

This isn't about political correctness. I'm asking you to educate yourself before you talk. This is just another example of you assigning blame and causation to anything you don't like and stretching it to issues that have nothing to do with it.

You claim you're against whiny protests and people that won't let things go yet you're the resident king in both areas.

If I were Jerry Buss, I would demand that EVERY Laker player meet with Phil face to face and say they were eternally sorry for not manning up, and giving their all for him in the Dallas series.

He did not deserve to go out like that.

INEXCUSABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/05/analyzing-the-lakers-roster.html

JonK --


One more thing. You wrote, "If I was about to marry someone I loved and it all got ruined because of high school level gossip, it would be pretty hard for me to concentrate too."


But if this story is true, that Gasol broke up with his girl because Vanessa Bryant informed her of Gasol's cheating ways, then could you really say that he "loved" her all that deeply so as to devastate him? If the story is true and Gasol was cheating, and VB ratted him out, then how strong was the love between Gasman and his girl?


Why would he cheat on her if he loved her so much, and when his alledged indiscretions came out, why would it affect him so hard, after all, if true, he was cheating on her all along -- if he loved his fiance all that much, he wouldn't have cheated on her in the first place???


Point being, the whole thing makes little sense. I could understand if she left Gasol for another man -- that would be devastating right in the thick of things in the playoffs. But the story as we hear it is that Gasol was cheating and VB ratted him out. If so, I can't see how the break-up could be used as an excuse for his poor play. After all, if the story is true, Gasol was cheating on her.


I mean, they were engaged, it's not like they had been married a dozen years and Gasol had a moment of weakness. If you cheat on your fiance, it means you're not really sure you wanna marry this girl, which once again, puts the "love" in question. And if the love was never really there, why would losing the girl affect him so freaking much?


This story doesn't make sense, I don't think we have the full version.

Handle Jacking alert. I only posted once today two threads ago...

JR

Ludwig,

If I understand the story correctly Vanessa Bryant falsely accused Pau of cheating on his girlfriend. That's what created the issue.

But perhaps I don't understand the story properly.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

To the haters: Congrads! You get to jump all over the Lakers Blog spewing your Lakers suck venom. They didn't make it to the Finals for the first time in 4 years and Kobe didn't get his 6th ring. What losers the Lakers are.


To Phil: Pour out a little liquor for the greatest coach of all time. Strangely, he spoke (treated) to his players like men. He gave them expectations and responsibilities like a teacher, like a mentor, like a father should. He was 1 ring short of a dozen. Quite an accomplishment for someone who doesn't like to call time outs.


To Kobe: Its funny how people forget the injured finger that needing surgery. The knee surgery in the off season and the worst ankle injury that anybody has ever seen that made you miss 0 regular season games due to your sheer will to win. It's funny how all that adds up to you're not Jordan. You're an old man who needs to pass the torch. LOL. Guess what? Next year a healthy, angry Kobe Bryant with D Howard or Chris Paul is coming to a theater near you. Yea, Laker fans are crying right now.


To D Fish: Love you more than words can express. You are the picture in the dictionary next to character, hard work, perserverence, dedication, honor, and overachiever. You are a coach, don't fight it. More importantly, don't take it as a disrespect when we ask you to do more for the team by doing less. The truth is we need you to groom the next point guard of the new Lakers era into a mold of yourself.


To Mitch: Think about the future going forward. Who's expendable? Tough call, right? Well we know Kobe is a lock but after that who's earned that title? Pau with his dominant regular season play but shameful post season play? Artest did the reverse, with an ugly regular season but an admirable postseason performance (minus the suspension). Bynum was about what we expected, dominant WHEN healthy. D fish played as expected as well, wearing both his heart and his age on the same sleeve. What about Shannon with his you tube dunks and his detrimental ball-stoppedness, or Lamar with his... well Lamar got the 6 man award so that = free pass. So I guess there's your answer.


To the rest of the teams in the NBA: Good luck to you. We don't wish any ill will towards anyone. We respect Rondo's suck it up game the other day. We root for Memphis and Marc Gasol. We love watching D Rose continue to blossom. Get yours while you can, cuz the next big trade you hear about will make you go to the bathroom and throw up your lunch. The truth is, us getting swept by the Mavs is the only way we are going to make any signifcant changes to get better. Who has better trade pieces than the Lakers? Miami, who they gone give up? The Knicks? Thunder? Boston? Exactly!

Listen people. To blame Ron Artest and to give him such a terrible grade is beyond belief. This guy disrupted other team's best players, ripped the ball from them and stole, tipped and clawed his way through every game. I cannot and WILL NOT say the same thing for anyone else on this squad. If he was left off the chain a bit and not stuck in the triangle then we'd be seeing the scoring machine and pest that we saw of him in Houston. Take Artest off your radars and focus it on the rest of the guys up to and most def including Mr. Bryant. No Artest last year and we don't win. No Artest this year and we can't spanked by a bunch of points by a bunch more teams. Can't believe the above grader talked about his mental health campaign as if it were some sort of distraction from basketball. he wasn't sucking on a glass pipe and laying with hookers! you can't find anything really wrong with his game so you pick on something ludicrous. And EVERYONE stop talking about the missed lay up. It was because of him that we had that run and so he misjudged one shot - no need crucify him. I didn't see Andrew or Pau doing much of merit. Dude had the third most points in the game behind Bryant and Brown(that guy is a shaky mess - only when it doesn't count does he show up. Thought with some schooling and his abilities he'd have a been a stud. NOPE. Just a bum who dribbles all the way to the basket and then backs out for no reason or loses the handle. I hope this guy opts out and looks for more cash. BUST. Slam dunks still count for 2 points and he doesn't make enough of those to count plus he doesn't fight without the ball so even if he had Steve Nash chucking up alleys to him he'd never even be there for the lob).
Artest gets an A- from me for working in a system that won't allow him the freedom that mr. bryant has to break out of the triangle and to go to the basket when he wants.

SCOTT and mclyne --


Phil Jackson is as much to blame for the thrashing in Game 4 as any player -- his failure to get off his rear and call a time-out in Game 1 when the Lakers were up 16, waiting all the way until the lead got down to 3, killed the Lakers' collective confidence and overall energy. That hurt. That single game gave the Mavs all the confidence in the world that they could beat the Lakers in a very meaningful game!


Nine out of ten coaches would've called a time-out when the lead got down to 9 or 11, but not Phil, he's the only coach in today's NBA who waits until it gets down to a one-possession freaking game! Game 1 should've never been that close in the end! No way! PJ has to take a hit for that collapse, got to!


And in Game 3, when they were up 8 with 6 minutes to go, the team went away from Andrew Bynum, when he was on fire. Why couldn't PJ get off his rear and yank Brown or Odom or Barnes every time they chucked a ridiculous shot from downtown instead of going down low to Andrew? Why not bench some of these idiots for a couple of plays to teach them an F'ing lesson? Instead, PJ allowed them to freelance and shoot shot after shot and forget all about their best weapon inside -- Andrew Bynum.


And don't tell me that's just PJ's style -- this Laker team needed a hard-ass on top of them, as per Game 3 when Jackson kept getting up and laying the wood on Gasol. PJ finally realized in Game 3 (a bit too late if you ask me) that that's what this team needed, a little skewering now and then. This team has no MJ, no dominant Shaq, no spry Kobe Bean -- he needed to do more coaching, more in-game guidance. I'm afraid he stayed too long with his Laissez faire style and it really hurt the team.


I love what Phil has done for this franchise, but frankly, he owns this collapse as much as anyone on this team.

mclyne,

A lot of people who you've seen popping Kobe jerseys and going to suddenly start popping Blake Griffin jerseys which, as a Clippers fan, doesn't make me any happier.

Fair weather fans are simply people of low moral character.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I agree with standing by Bynum! Is he not allowed to make a mistake? Get frustrated? Theres no need to lynch him, he will be fined by the league. Let it go. If a trade ensues I'd keep Bynum & trade Gasol. Gasol's play has been going downward before the playoffs began. I love him dearly but something is amiss and maybe its time for him to go.

DBDH, I am with you on that. Although I read updates on internet. I just can't stand watching them on TV. Not worth it.

All bullies like Artest and Bynum are cowards, who could only take out their "frustration" on J.J. Barea, the smallest player on the court. Send them back to the streets where they belong, the Lakers will be far better off without them.

I agree with Don't Blame Del Harris! I am a longtime Laker fan via Atlanta and could care less what the Hawks are doing. The fact that the Lakers are no longer in the mix is David Stern's worst nightmare a major market without a dog in the hunt. The large ratings from the Dallas /LA series may be the final set of large ratings for the NBA at this point I doubt most of America cares whether Miami goes all the way or whether Dallas will choke against their next opponent.

I'm burnt on NBA at this point and will take a break from sports again until probably Oct. based on what happens with the lockout. I guess I will have to go back and watch last year's game 7 again and the parade because the real party is over.
Have a great summer!

The whole NBA really know he's soft now. If Memphis bet the thunder then Pau brother is going to take Dirk them as a personal matter and he will prove he is as tough as his brother. Maybe if we had Mark Gasol in the Dallas serious we would have won. But like I said I do believe we are still a top team but we have a few body to get rid of. Blake, Brown, Ratliff, Smith, Walton all will be out. With that money and possible a trade we should be able to get a good quality player in uniform for next season.http://bit.ly/j1rhut

Get Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, & Kevin Love

Keep Bynum

Trade Kobe for Derrick Rose

If we keep Kobe Bryant we should also keep Lamar Odom simply because he is the poor man's Scootie Pippen

We should also go after Kevin Durant & Blake Girffin within next 2 or 3 years.

Bench Ron Artest (he is not a starter/ we may not need to trade him), he is good where he is BENCH.... he would make the bench a lot powerful, he is simply not a starter. Also, we got him very cheap.

When Lakers were so soft before Artest came, most fans here wants thugs because they are tired of watching lakers playing soooo soft!!!


Get Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, & Kevin Love

Keep Bynum

Trade Kobe for Derrick Rose

If we keep Kobe Bryant we should also keep Lamar Odom simply because he is the poor man's Scootie Pippen

We should also go after Kevin Durant & Blake Girffin within next 2 or 3 years.

Bench Ron Artest (he is not a starter/ we may not need to trade him), he is good where he is BENCH.... he would make the bench a lot powerful, he is simply not a starter. Also, we got him very cheap.

Ron gets a D+. Worst statisical season of his career, and he fouled Barea for no reason. He needs to become a role player off our bench.


As my son said this morning regarding the Lakers.

From the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. Yin and the yang, the dichotomy of life.

KL_Beast - I disagree. He was very inconsistent on defense. Had a few really good games mixed with sub-par games

Artest would be great coming off the bench for the Lakers, but they need a starting small forward who can really run. He added a lot of flavor to the squad with some of his comedic antics, but he also contributed to the new-founded Laker "thuggery" displayed by flagrant fouls (even though I could tell he regretted his one against Barea the minute he did it). Either way I'd hate to see him go, but the Lakers need to upgrade the three.


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