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Lamar Odom, Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher discuss 95-90 loss to Denver Nuggets

Lakers forward Lamar Odom

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson

Lakers forward Pau Gasol

Lakers center Andrew Bynum

Lakers guard Derek Fisher

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Where have all the trolls been during the Lakers winning streak? S Perkins I didn't see you the other day when D-Fish scored 16 pts?

So, I didn't see the game due to inventory BLECK. But it looks like Lamar had smoe issues boxing out again? It just goes to show you that slight difference between being a starter on the Lakers and being the 6th man.

AB had a solid night on the boards, shame he tweaked his knee as we might be at 19 losses instead of 21 if he was in there to box out rebounds.

@purpleheart

I will gladly bet you $1000 the lakers will make it past the 1st round (even though I know thats what you're betting too)

pay up bruv ;)

At the 76th game last year, we were also exactly 55-21; all is well....

Posted on a previous thread:

"Too funny reading Laker fans whine about trolls and early starts. Early starts? What a laugh. No wonder there are very few men around anymore. The Mommy culture has taken over. Did the Lakers wear their helmets to class today too? And boy that darn freedom of expresion on the internet gets real messy when Laker fans just want to hug and sing around the campfire. Oh my, please don't call us troll's haha hahaha."

Posted by: Mark | April 03, 2011 at 11:53 PM
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So...I'm confused about a few points in the above passage, and perhaps the poster can help me out.

1) What exactly is a "Mommy" culture? It's a well documented fact that women who are mothers are not a mono-cultural group. Case in point - there are (at a conservative estimate) 400+ articles in the Journal of Sociology that have to do with mothers; One could easily get other articles in Cultural Studies/Anthropology journals as well. With this in mind, it would be great if the poster expanded on their oversimplification of the term "mommy culture".

2) How exactly are 12:30 PDT starts for a game correlated with the phrase "[n]o wonder there are very few men around anymore"? I ask for a correlation because I do not want to insult the poster by thinking that they meant that a 12:30 PDT start *caused* men to disappear or fall off the face of the earth. When providing this correlation, a correlation coefficient greater than 0.7 would be appreciated. If you wish, you can also provide me with the raw statistical data to run my own regression analysis, since I have a copy of SPSS on my computer.

3) Regarding the phrase "And boy that darn freedom of (sic) expresion on the internet gets real messy when Laker fans just want to hug and sing around the campfire." - there is limited freedom of expression here at the LA Times blog, as evidenced by the full terms of service (please see the link below the "Post a comment" form). There are certain things you cannot do here (hence my highlighting in a previous thread a poster who used exclamation points to thinly veil a Nazi salute), so please tread carefully. I'd hate to see you get banned for something that you could have said differently. This is especially so because I presume that you have the vocabulary to do so.

4) Regarding the phrase " Did the Lakers wear their helmets to class today too?" - since it was a Sunday game, I would presume that Laker fans (for the most part) didn't attend school on that day. Granted, there might be some Laker fans that are home schooled, or that may attend Sunday school at a religious institution, but I'm pretty sure that they didn't wear helmets there either. If you were trying to make a sarcastic remark about religion, I believe that the proper phrase would be "tin foil hats" instead of "helmets". Either way, if you were trying to be sardonic, I'm not too sure how your comment is supposed to be substantively connected to the topic at hand (the loss to the Nuggets).

Thanks for your time!


Phil failed to adress Denver's 56 point second half.
There's the game. No second half D!

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/04/03/shaq-returns-injured-again.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

_______________________

Shaq's done........I guess.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

See, that's why the Lakers are champs.They took this loss in the correct vein, acknowledging their opponent's good play and also owning up to their own lapses and poor play. They can't win every game and they'll learn from this.

I was never worried about the loss, I am more concerned with Andrew and Pau's health. Hope they stay up.

Injuries remain the only threat to this 3peat. Other teams won't matter much.

We have seen how dominant we are this season. We can never lose a 7-game series with this team.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

JovBATZ24...

Thanks for the link to that Shaq story. Wow! The Celtics hitched their wagon to the wrong horse! The big fella can't make it anymore, it seems. Recurrent leg injuries are a real bad thing for an aging basketball player.

Before I sat down and watched this game I felt that this could be the one we lose and when hearing the Nuggets were shorthanded it strengthend my belief. This sure was a lethargic stinker. Seems like we peeked with the fabulous Dallas game and then boredom set in...again!

This team doesn't seem mentally strong enough to put together double digit win streaks. Well, luckily enough it's not necessary to do that to win championships. The positive spin on this situation is that it now seems like the 2nd round matchup with Dallas is highly likely again and that should provide a fun series. Damn, that Dallas game was fun!

@Lewstrs- thanks for the roll call Kabayan :)

@G.Money- thanks for being fair with Mamba24. Much respect. Good luck with your team, Heat vs Lakers in the finals? It will be one for the ages.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

acb statistics

LAKERS
Ron Artest 1
Pau Gasol 19
Andrew Bynum 22
Kobe Bryant 18
Derek Fisher -3
Lamar Odom 9
Matt Barnes 7
Steve Blake 2
Shannon Brown -1
Team 74

DENVER NUGGET
Kenyon Martin 16
Danilo Gallinari 21
Nene 15
Wilson Chandler 4
Ty Lawson 8
Al Harrington 0
Raymond Felton 12
J.R. Smith -2
Timofey Mozgov 8
Team 82

Denver will be a dangerous rival in the postseason. Nugget and thunder are the most difficult rival for lakers, but Lakers prevail


Anyone can report any injuries Bynum and Gasol, please.

Top 4 teams in the EAST...... Second round and ECF will be WAR.

After that, the last team standing faces our LAKERS. Epic.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | April 04, 2011 at 05:24 AM
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Bronxlakerfan,

No prob. Yes, it seems Shaq won't be able to make it through a 7-game series, worse last through June, or endure 4 seven-game series. Looks like we will be facing a different opponent come June.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Some more info on the Shaq injury...

http://tinyurl.com/3cjlm4h

According to Doc Rivers, it's not too serious. Funny, but I wouldn't believe Doc Rivers if he told me water is wet.

Mark the Troll,

>>>Did the Lakers wear their helmets to class today too?

Damn right they did. They wore their 2010 NBA Champion helmets.

What did your team wear? Their loser hats?

>>>Top 4 teams in the EAST...... Second round and ECF will be WAR.

WAR
HUH!
Good God, y'all
What is it good for?
Determining the Eastern Conference Champion

@JovBatz/BronxLF - Very unfortunate about Shaq. I hope he makes it back. First, I don't want to see anyone injured especially at playoff time. Secondly, Shaq's had a great career and I'd hate to see it end with him in street clothes.


@LTLF -....Absolutely nothing...say it again!

Hello

Police here; watched snippets of the Denver game and wasn't too happy we lost it. LO lost focus at the very end on that missed rebound; even though K Mart fouled him it looked like LO wasn't making much of an effort to get that rebound.

Portland took care of Dallas easily; the PSP will say it again, those Portland guys look like they will upset someone come playoffs ...

Anyway the loss is now in the past; on to the next one.

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

The best thing about yesterday's game was the Lakers escaping injury free. Kobe, Pau and Drew all had moments that made me hold my breath. Stay healthy and #17 is only a couple of months away.


Mornin CRUE.

Well….. THAT sucked. Ever hear of BOXING OUT?? Ever hear of GUARD THE 3 – or at least guard the guy who’s hot??? Oy vey…. Oh well. 1 of 82, but still – never should have gone down like that. Our boys came out sluggish and just didn’t play well. The lack of effort is what ticks me off more than the loss.

Then – to top it off – I went to the Ducks vs Stars game last night and watched more moron refs stick it to the Ducks. Only 1 penalty called against the Stars the entire game AND TWO – COUNT ‘em TWO – Ducks goals called off. So they lost 4-3. Yeah. Not a great day for my boys – all the way around.

Oh well. The good news is that there’s a Laker game tomorrow and everyone escaped yesterday's game without serious injury. THAT's what's important.

GO LAKERS!!

The Heat beat the Nets yesterday. With Sasha being the primary defender on LeBron, I'm shocked that they pulled it off. ;-)

Andrew Bynum once again leads the Lakers in EFF ratings:
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Player MIN EFF
Andrew Bynum 31 +24
Pau Gasol 32 +21
Kobe Bryant 38 +19
Lamar Odom 31 +14
Matt Barnes 18 +8
Ron Artest 29 +6
Steve Blake 19 +4
Derek Fisher 32 +1
Shannon Brown 11 +1
Joe Smith DNP --
Luke Walton DNP --
Devin Ebanks DNP --
Theo Ratliff DNP --
Derrick Caracter DNP --
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TOM


@BRONXLAKERFAN ... “The other point that I wanted to make is that for the first time in a long time, a team forced the Lakers to adjust to them. The Lakers went small, trying to deal with Denver. Usually teams adjust to the Lakers, not the other way around.”
...
Excellent point, Bronx. I was surprised to see Phil blink first in this situation and go small rather than trying to force the Nuggets to go big. I would have preferred to see Phil go even bigger and just pound the ball down low and force Denver to adjust. One of the big strengths that the Lakers have is five players – Kobe, Ron, Drew, Pau, and Lamar – who are excellent post up players. To not post up Kobe when the Nuggets had their double point guard lineup was not a smart move.
...
This was the second loss directly attributable to Phil for once again not having Drew in to rebound on a free throw. Per Drew, he was available to come back in. No way Martin gets that offensive rebound if Drew was in the game. Pau’s two turnovers in the clutch were also big contributors as were Kobe’s 27 shots to get 28 points. There were several instances where Kobe had Pau or Drew open underneath and continued to look for his shot rather than pounding the ball inside.
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@THE OUTLAW ... “When Bynum is guarding Nene (and vice versa), the match-up really favors the Lakers. Bynum is too big, too talented, and too strong for Nene. I thought the Lakers did a poor job of getting Bynum the ball on several occasions, times when he had really sealed his man off.”
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Outstanding point, Outlaw. I thought Kobe was especially guilty of looking too much for his own shot and there were several instances where Drew had his man sealed and was ignored by Kobe, who was a little too intent on getting his own shot last night and maintaining the 34 ppg average he had the last four games. I am sure he’ll adjust and work hard to get everyone involved next game.
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TOM

oops. denver looks like they wanted it more,much more.the lakers did not gather themselve and needed to play more inside-out in the second half.you have to be happy for karl,not having to deal with a prima donna anymore. he has any coaches delight, a bunch of young guys willing TO WORK REAL HARD ALL THE TIME! thats why they won. more importantly. pau and drew's health as main concern.pau's was really scary to watch. the lakers attitude needs to stay healthy, the focus a game at a time


@BRONXLAKERFAN ... “The other point that I wanted to make is that for the first time in a long time, a team forced the Lakers to adjust to them. The Lakers went small, trying to deal with Denver. Usually teams adjust to the Lakers, not the other way around.”
...
Excellent point, Bronx. I was surprised to see Phil blink first in this situation and go small rather than trying to force the Nuggets to go big. I would have preferred to see Phil go even bigger and just pound the ball down low and force Denver to adjust. One of the big strengths that the Lakers have is five players – Kobe, Ron, Drew, Pau, and Lamar – who are excellent post up players. To not post up Kobe when the Nuggets had their double point guard lineup was not a smart move.
...
This was the second loss directly attributable to Phil for once again not having Drew in to rebound on a free throw. Per Drew, he was available to come back in. No way Martin gets that offensive rebound if Drew was in the game. Pau’s two turnovers in the clutch were also big contributors as were Kobe’s 27 shots to get 28 points. There were several instances where Kobe had Pau or Drew open underneath and continued to look for his shot rather than pounding the ball inside.
.......................................
@THE OUTLAW ... “When Bynum is guarding Nene (and vice versa), the match-up really favors the Lakers. Bynum is too big, too talented, and too strong for Nene. I thought the Lakers did a poor job of getting Bynum the ball on several occasions, times when he had really sealed his man off.”
...
Outstanding point, Outlaw. I thought Kobe was especially guilty of looking too much for his own shot and there were several instances where Drew had his man sealed and was ignored by Kobe, who was a little too intent on getting his own shot last night and maintaining the 34 ppg average he had the last four games. I am sure he’ll adjust and work hard to get everyone involved next game.
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TOM

Drew led the Eff ratings but yesterday he was not effective against the Denver C who are really power forwards. They just dissed in and out without any D from Pau or Drew and the perimeter shooting of Nuggets was just spectacular, we got few gunners while they have many. This sounds like the war in Libya between the rebels and the regime. The rebels have few guns while the regime have plenty. Why is Shannon dribbling the ball too much between the legs, crossover and so forth, he should learn some new techniques from the legends because he's fast and a good leaper. What he needs now is a little intelligence how to use those skills.


"Where have all the trolls been during the Lakers winning streak? S Perkins I didn't see you the other day when D-Fish scored 16 pts?

Posted by: Diandra | April 04, 2011 at 12:35 AM "

I don't think I'd recommend trying to go back and forth with S Perkins on Fisher's statlines. That's going to be a losing battle.

I will be glad when Kobe retire......than we'll see what happen, everyone need to be held responsible, but noooo..these are professional Basketball player that need someone “Kobe” to make them better, are you serious? Who makes Kobe better..exactly

Denver NEEDED this win much more than the Lakertrotters WANTED this game...thats all. Denver's coach got himself a technical called on him to make that point to his players! You will never see Phil do that.

>>>The Lakers went small, trying to deal with Denver.

I think you're wrong on that one LT. The Lakers went small because Bynum was hurt and Lamar had 5 fouls.

I am new here, how can I start new thread for well come message as I have no post still.


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