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Lakers on a pretty even keel after Monday's practice

Sharing a few laughs, Andrew Bynum joked with Lamar Odom that it was Odom's fault the two collided knees during Sunday's game against the Denver Nuggets. The crash prompted Lakers Coach Phil Jackson to keep Bynum out of the final seven minutes of the Lakers' 95-90 loss Sunday to the Nuggets.

"I'm all right," said Bynum of his right knee, which kept him limited in Monday's practice. "I'm good. Just preventative. It's crazy. I had the brace on. That's what saved it."

Lakers forward Pau Gasol kept a pretty optimistic outlook about his upcoming MRI scheduled for Monday afternoon on his left knee, laughing with reporters about whether it's difficult to undergo the test given his 7-foot frame, how he's more knowledgeable than others about the results because of his strong medical history and how it will likely end in time to catch the NCAA men's basketball title game between Connecticut and Butler.

"I believe positive thinking helps your body," said Gasol, who described his left knee as "sore" and Nene's hard foul with 9:17 left in the third quarter as a "scary moment." "It helps to think that way."

Odom immediately broke the ice with reporters, joking about his preference to talk about the Lakers' game Tuesday against Utah rather than re-living his failure to box out Kenyon Martin in what secured the Nuggets' victory. No one had much interest in the Jazz since they're officially eliminated from the playoffs. But Odom still appeared in a good enough mood to joke about the emerging billboards touting his unisex fragrance.

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant joked about his recent Western Conference player of the week award, saying that he was only given a piece of paper for the honor.

Clearly, the Lakers aren't fretting much about their loss to Denver, especially considering their 17-2 mark since the All-Star break.

"You don't get too high or too low," Bryant said. You don't listen to the praises or the criticisms. You go out there and do your job the best way you can. When the game is over, you forget about it and move on to the next one."

There's plenty of signs the Lakers have already done that. It's customary for Coach Jackson to review film after losses, but he opted not to do that, figuring it was no use repeating a performance he mostly blamed on a loss of energy from the Lakers' emotional double-digit victory last week against Dallas and their come-from-behind win over Utah.

"It's not unusual something like that would happen," Jackson said he told his team, which shot 42% and committed 20 turnovers against the Nuggets.

Instead, the Lakers' practice mostly centered on staying healthy, with Jackson saying Bynum had "limited participation" and Gasol limiting himself to weight lifting and treatment. And again, the Lakers aren't too worried.

But, sure, there are things the team wants to correct. Odom lamented the bench's inconsistent effort in winning quarters and blowing a seven-point lead at half-time against Denver. Bryant stressed the Lakers' need to decrease the 20 turnovers they committed against the Nuggets and to return to the nine turnovers they averaged in the 17-1 start after the All-Star break. And of course the Lakers want Bynum and Gasol to remain healthy.

But the Lakers' frequent laughing and smiles during practice suggested concerns about being 2 1/2 games behind San Antonio for the top spot in the West or any injury updates aren't going to consume them.

"We're not worried about the No. 1 seed because then we have to worry about San Antonio losing," Odom said. "We have to worry about getting healthy and to keep our momentum going into the playoffs."

-- Mark Medina

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It took this long to induct Satch Sanders? Truthfully, if he's in as a role player in 8 NBA championships on the same dynasty, shouldn't Robery Horry be a shoo-in, winning 7 championships on 3 different teams?

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 04, 2011 at 01:23 PM
Yep not only Horry, but Coop and Fish also with their 5 rings.

If the triangle is so bad why did Kobe suggest Rudy T add it?

Excerpt of article…

“Even with Bryant healthy, the signs were ominous. Under Tomjanovich's system, Bryant initially found it hard to involve his new teammates. By the time Tomjanovich started to reinstate Jackson's triangle offense, at Bryant's suggestion, the new Lakers could not pick it up on the fly. “

One more triangle article from the lost season (2005)....


The Lakers are running a simple form of the triangle, an offense they call "the overload." They first ran it early last month after Bryant and Tomjanovich talked about introducing other options on offense. Simplified or not, it had its moments with Bryant, who thought the offense would help offset the numerous double-teams he had been facing.

"You don't get too high or too low," Bryant said.

I think this simple message is so true to everyone, the players and the fans, until the Lakers get #17!!!


You wrote:
@ART ... “Do we not judge the posts we read based on the content of the post as opposed to the writers handle?”

I do but it appears that you do not.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that yes, you do judge the posts by who the author is as opposed to just the contents of the post? If so, please explain why?
Or, are you saying that you don't do that but you think that I do. If so, please offer some documentation to support that.
You wrote: If you thought this post was intelligent, we will have to agree to disagree.
I wrote that Bay and Bulimic "had an interesting point", a subtle but distinct difference vs "intelligent" as you incorrectly quoted me as writing.
I then offered my own opinion which was related to what he wrote but not quite the same as what he wrote.
Changing a word here and there in what you claim someone wrote can misconstrue the entire meaning.

You wrote: ...followed by more ouchhh style bashing of Pau.
Earlier this year you were pretty negative on Pau and wanted him traded for Melo.
You know what they say about glass houses...

Thank you for informing me about the Triangle Defense. I didn't know there was such a thing which is why I asked.
It sounds a bit fishy to me but I will grant that you know more about basketball X's and O's than I do. After all, you are a coach and you have played organized ball and I am nothing more than a fan, never played, never coached, so excuse my unfamiliarity with the Triangle Defense.
You wrote: As to whether Phil and the Bulls and Lakers would have won using a different system, we’ll never know. No one is saying the Triangle is the only way to win.

To say it had no effect on Phil’s coaching success would be as naive as believing what this poster is trying to sell. It’s just more ouchhh.

A couple of points here. First you say that "no one is saying the Triangle is the only way to win."
That was the main point of my post and I think it was the main point of Bay to La's post also. I said that I thought the Lakers top 5 players with PJ as coach could win in a different "system".
I also said I think a major reason for their success is how well they play defense.
I never said anything critical of the Triangle and I never said it has no effect on Phils coaching success, only that PJ may have won without it with those same players.
Do you dispute that?

Yes, you are right, we'll never know if they could have won in a different system. It's all just speculating, just a conversation. There is a lot, I mean, a lot of speculating on this blog. Just fun basketball talk. You do it (speculate) on a regular basis, so why jump all over someone else for doing the same thing?

I don't know where ouchhh fits into this and I don't know why he even needs to be brought up in a negative light when he isn't even here posting since he was banned.

Yes, as I have mentioned several times here when others have asked,
I am Art - FL Lakers Fan.
I still live in FL and I am still a Lakers fan, I simply shortened up the name.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet..."

@KOBEMVP888 ... Great points about the Triangle, Kenny. It just amazes me that a poster who does not understand the Triangle or the advantages of running the system would claim it had no impact on the Phil Jackson winning 11-and-counting NBA championships. Much like claiming that Bill Walsh’s West Coast offense had nothing to do with the Niners winning 5 Super Bowls.
There is a huge difference between saying that the Bulls and Lakers in the NBA and the 49ers in the NFL “might” have won with the same coach and players under a different system and claiming that the systems, which were tangible direct reflections of the coach’s styles and philosophies, had nothing or little to do with their success.
The reality of professional sports is that the coaches who have built systems that embody and emphasize what they believe in and remain constant and true to those systems are the ones who become great in their professions. It’s what separates Phil Jackson from the Van Gundys. To minimize or trivialize the importance of the Triangle or West Coast Offense shows a true lack of understanding of how you build a championship team and coaching resume.


I agree with Art, there is no such thing as Triangle Defense. Are you referring to zone defense as a triangle defense? man, basketball is becoming complicated by all those lingo. If a player can't shoot, slow footed, soft, T/O proned no matter what offense or defense employ he will still be a dumb a**,

(Note to MM, why did you delete my post about the story how basketball was originated under the thread of Tex Winter this morning about 10:00 AM? Did I violate anything? I asked that question earlier, never got any reply.?


Here are the links for Satch Sanders vs. Robert Horry:

Satch: 9.6, 6.3, 1.1, 8 rings, 13 seasons (consistent 9 season stretch between 1961-62 and 1969-70)

Horry: 7.0, 4.8, 2.1, 1.0 steals, 7 rings, 16 seasons (peaked statistically with first 4 years with Rockets before joining Lakers and had Satch-like numbers with them about 10.5 and 5, but his post-season heroics put him on a MUCH higher pedestal than Sanders IMO).

Derek Fisher's numbers rival both Sanders and Horry's, with an 8 year statistical peak between 2000 and 2008, and 5 rings in 14 seasons (to date). Throw in his post-season heroics, the fact that's been the Lakers co-captain on 2 championship teams and the President of the National Basketball Players Association since 2006, and he has to be in the discussion.

Laker Tom,

You wrote:
There is a huge difference between saying that the Bulls and Lakers in the NBA and the 49ers in the NFL “might” have won with the same coach and players under a different system...

Do you understand that that is exactly what I said?

You wrote:

... and claiming that the systems, which were tangible direct reflections of the coach’s styles and philosophies, had nothing or little to do with their success.

Do you understand, I never wrote that?

Again you can have Phil Jackson as the head coach and Pat Riley, Tim Tibs, Sloan as assistants if your players are: Kwame, Smush, Cook, Walton, Samaki Walker, Tierre Brown etc. whatever offense and defense employed - they will never go to the Finals. The system helps the players to execute but it's still the skillful players who will go the Finals. Good coaching can make the difference but they are not the sole determinants to be in the Finals. In the end, a Championship team should compose players with skills.

Laker Tom,

Regarding the Triangle Defense you espouse, I cannot find any reference to it on Google.
Triangle Defense?

@ART ... Thanks for your response. My choices of words were obviously colored by my dislike of the comments by the other poster than your comments. If the original post had left it that it would be interesting to discuss whether Phil could have succeeded with system other than the Triangle, I would probably have not even responded. When the post digressed to creating a fictitious and unsupportable story about Phil trying to make Pau the team leader over Kobe and that being why Pau played so poorly after the first 8 games of the season, I thought the post verged into the ludicrous and ridiculous.
Your point about calling it “interesting” is well taken. My bad. Knowing it was you I should have realized that was your polite way of interacting, which I have seen before and appreciate. Anyway, my apologies for directing a couple of unwarranted jabs in your direction. You ducked pretty well.
There is no official Triangle Defense but as you can see from Phil’s comments, running the Triangle Offense efficiently is a big part of the Lakers defensive strategy and game plan. And as I pointed out in related posts, the system a coach devises usually embodies what he thinks is important, a working version of his coaching style and philosophy.
Did the Bulls and Laker win because of the Triangle? Partly, just as the San Francisco 49ers won partly because of Bill Walsh’s West Coast Offense. You can say that they “might” or “could” have won running another system but only a fool would say that they “would” have, which is exactly what a recent poster came out and said in my opinion. :-) And yes, I thought it was ouchhh.

@KOBEMVP888 ... Great points about the Triangle, Kenny. It just amazes me that a poster who does not understand the Triangle or the advantages of running the system would claim it had no impact on the Phil Jackson winning 11-and-counting NBA championships. Much like claiming that Bill Walsh’s West Coast offense had nothing to do with the Niners winning 5 Super Bowls.
There is a huge difference between saying that the Bulls and Lakers in the NBA and the 49ers in the NFL “might” have won with the same coach and players under a different system and claiming that the systems, which were tangible direct reflections of the coach’s styles and philosophies, had nothing or little to do with their success.
The reality of professional sports is that the coaches who have built systems that embody and emphasize what they believe in and remain constant and true to those systems are the ones who become great in their professions. It’s what separates Phil Jackson from the Van Gundys. To minimize or trivialize the importance of the Triangle or West Coast Offense shows a true lack of understanding of how you build a championship team and coaching resume.

Posted by: LakerTom | April 04, 2011 at 04:08 PM

Great post, Tom. Your analogy with the West Coach offense was on the money, except that the triangle is much more difficult to understand and teach and that is why Phil Jackson remains the only coach who can teach his players to run it efficiently.

The reality is that taming today's rich, spoiled, egotistical mega-superstars requires discipline, but there are ways to impose that discipline on them and ways that are questionable. As "great" a coach as Jerry Sloan was, he could never quite hammer home that discipline on both ends of the court all the way to a championship.

The triangle offense allows the mega-star and other high IQ players to thrive while remaining disciplined and thinking at all times. Players understand that proper execution in the triangle is part and parcel to execution at the defensive end of the court. Any true Lakers fan who has watched this squad over the last 4 seasons understands this.

As I have stated repeatedly, I do not think that one can express Phil Jackson's basketball brilliance in words. To essentially pooh-pooh the triangle and say that Phil could have employed another system which would have worked just as well borders on absurd. It is what differentiates Phil from his peers (among other things) and what is a huge part of his legacy.

Triangle Transition?

"I Feel Full"

Laker Tom,

I see we are now on the same page.
Ok then, gunna' close the book and stop reading for tonight, it's now family time.
Have a good night.

Some pundits say the Phil Jackson wins because he has the players needed in his team. I totally agree with that statement.

One case in point, when he took over the job of the Lakers from Rudy T., he does not have the skillful players I referred except for Kobe, inconsistent LO and as a good Coach, he was able to wield them to the playoffs but not beyond the first round. Why? Because Kobe teammates simply have no ability to win against good teams. Kobe ranted. Nobody understood why he was complaining? He practically telling the F/O that Phil Jackson is not enough if your stay with the same players year in and year out. There is such thing as development or coming around as what Mitch used to say in his interviews if you have a PG as good as Smush and a Center as great as Kwame.

Therefore, in those two seasons, PJ was severely tested on his greatness as a Coach. He is great but he's still need good players like MJ, Pippen, Kerr, Rodman, and the others.

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Stevie - Uptight (Everything is Alright)

Also check out the nice interview with a young 16yr old Stevie…and a nice encore!

@Mclyne – that new Foo rocks. Here’s another from the upcoming cd. I saw just about from the new cd uploaded from a live show they did at the Roxy.

RegularSeasonPolice -

Would you be the poster known as LAKER TRUTH???

The triangle is great but having mj and then kobe helps a great deal as well.

Posted by: island priest | April 04, 2011 at 04:21 PM

--The spaniards say "Milagro Padre" you included Kobe as a great player. What was the reason for change in thinking, slipped of the fingers or you may have been guided by divine thoughts?


I have always been intrigued by the undeniable reality of how certain franchises/coaches/systems consistently win while others consistently lose. It is not just karma or coincidence,,,

I grew up an "all things LA" sports fan. Lakers, Dodgers, Rams. I also chose USC over UCLA. Year after year after year I witnessed this dynamic.

--The Rams had great talent, great records, but could never win the big one (until 2000 when they were in ST. LOUIS!). Coaches came and went. Systems changed.

--The Dodgers seemed to always win or be having an off year on the way to another winning season. O'Malleys consistent. Walter Alston and then Tommy Lasorda were mainstays. Garvey-Lopes-Russell-Cey longevity.

--The Lakers had Elgin, Jerry, Wilt, 33 game winning streak, Showtime, championships.

--USC dominated in Football as UCLA sputtered... year after year. Then UCLA dominated in B-Ball as USC sputtered... year after year.

Ownership. Tradition. Continuity. Coaching. Systems. Talent. Scouting. Revenue. Recruiting. Leadership. So many elements that seem to converge on those teams with "winning traditions" where the "losers" lack some of those qualities. Just amazing what it takes to truly have a winning tradition.

Your view of the 49ers for years surely is a great example of these various elements blending together to make a winning tradition. Conversely, just like our LA counterpart in the Clippers, the trevails of Golden State Warriors shows the other side.

I am interested in how you piece this together with Phil's dominance with TWO organizations... one WITH a winning tradition (Lakers) and one WITHOUT (Bulls).


LRob - this is what I got today...sorry it's so late...

I went REAL Old School...

For ALL the Old School Laker Fans in here...(30 years min)


For this could be one of the best Championship teams ever...if we accomplish the 3Peat...

I have some GREAT seats for sale for the OKC game at face value. We paid $295 each plus $15 service charge before the season started, but I have to sell them. Please let me know if you are interested. They're in Section 17 (Premiere), Row 9, seats 9-10. Please ask MM for my e-mail address if you are interested.

Here's the link to the Staples Center viewer:

I am a big fan of the Lakers and coach Jackson. Shaq is my favorite player.


Thanks for the Satch, Horry & Fish breakdown. I didn't really catch Satch until the last two three years of his career. Overall his numbers were a little better than I suspected. But he was more noted for his defense right? Anyway I had totally forgot about his brief head coaching stint with the Celtics.

Horry is a classic example of the difference between the regular and post season. He was always fully engaged in the playoffs. I became a big fan when he had that unbelievable series in the 95 Finals. He averaged 18pts/10reb/4asst/3stls/2blks. Perhaps that's why I always expected more of him. Nevertheless he had a very good career and is one of the all-time clutch shooters in playoff history.

888 I will take them if you give me the senior Filipino


NC Finals tonight, who would u go for?

UConn Women's basketball team were eliminated last night despite their unprecedented winning record. Would u now compare them to the Mens basketball during the time of Coach Wooden?


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I had U-Conn for my pick to win it all on my bracket. So I gotta stick with them. But I wouldn't mind seeing Butler win to show the midwest some love...those guys play tough!

Also, you're right...great players first...great coach second! But neither can win without the other. Thank God the Lakers have both :-)


Never too late...a great sounding 3peat led by dynamic duo of Cream & Stones.

Edwin thanks compadre...I whole heartedly

LRob - no comments on my set?

OK one more try...


You know even if you have great players, a great Coach if you don't have that luck, or under karma or whatever you may call it, you will still not win. Visiting the Lakers in the sixties, ten years asa a bridegroom of the hated leprechauns and early seventies Knicks, Bucks, finally West was rewarded in'72. Elgin was a agreat player but never got the ring. It happened again in 2004, a sure deal with four superstars under one team with the greatest Coach of all time, still were beaten by your Pistons.

Same with the Dodgers, they were consistent winners in Brooklyn and when they moved to LA, it took them 5 years to get to World Series in 1955 with Johnny Podres finally stopped the Yankees. Again after Lasorda's time, the last time they won the World Series was in 1988. They have had good coaches and good players from that time but under karma..the other night alone they won their first game against the defending World Champs SF Giants but the mauling incident on the parking lot put another bad mark on the organization.

Therefore I say, Good players, good coach, good organization and that "IT". You still need that luck or divine intervention i.e. if you believe in prayers.

****Forgot to post this from 2 days ago****

@ NBA4EVER … This always happens when it comes to politics. Yes, I did read what you and Kobefan wrote. No, I did not take offense to your comments like the Triangulator did. Yes, I do consider Mike to be a valuable blogger and friend and did want to make sure he knew that I had his back and did not want him to leave the blog because I’ve been there and done that and understand where he is.

While I did not read your comments to say the same thing that Mike did, I am always very respectful of veterans and just wish that everybody shared that respect and understood how sensitive certain subjects can be and tried to avoid them whenever possible, especially between friends and family, which is what this blog is in my opinion. Sometimes, the right thing to do is to apologize even if you did not believe there was anything to apologize for in order to keep the blog at peace for everybody.

To me, it’s like your wife reminds you before you go to Christmas dinner with the in-laws. No politics or religion because that’s a sure way to wreck the happy feeling that’s a big part of being a fan and being on this blog. You’re not a rah-rah person from what I can tell but you obviously are passionate enough about the Lakers to post on this blog regularly so you must feel some sense of the family that would make me want to have Mike’s back – or yours were the circumstances reversed. I know it’s corny but phred in his idiotic way has it right, it’s all about the love – for the Lakers and the blog.

Never mind were posting while I was

Thanks, I knew you would like the selections...

Erratum on my post to LRob, no such thing as bridegroom, those are two persons, I meant bridesmaid. Bye, will watch the Championship.

Let me start by saying I actually played the Triangle Offense as a point guard in high school. I also am probably one of the few people who actually own a copy of Tex Winter’s Triple Post Offense. So I do
know more about the Triangle Offense than the usual Lakers fan or my good friend Jon K.

The Triangle Offense is designed to produce constant ball and player movement creating optimum spacing and positioning, leading to more assists, points, and rebounds and better shot selection and shooting percentages as well as proper spacing and floor balance to make the transition to defense. While harder to learn than some systems, it really is just breaking the game into its elements.
To say that the Triangle Offense is not partly responsible for Phil Jackson’s amazing coaching success trivializes its value, much in the same way that claims that the only reason Phil Jackson won 11 rings was because of the players he had. In many ways, the Triangle Offense is Phil Jackson embodied. It’s the model for how he believes the game of basketball should be played. You can’t separate the two.

That’s why the entire subject is really a farce because the Triangle Offense that Phil runs is Phil. It’s been tweaked and customized and is now an integral component of an incredibly well-thought out and intelligent long-term plan on how to motivate and teach players and win championships. Kurt running the same offense in Minneapolis with their players is no proof the Triangle doesn’t work.

There is no doubt Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant would have likely won multiple rings even if they never had had Phil Jackson as their coach. There is also little doubt they would NOT have won as many championships without Phil Jackson. The same logic applies with the Triangle. You could have won multiple NBA titles with other offensive systems but not 11 championships.

If you ask the coaches of other NBA teams, they’ll tell you that the Triangle is the most difficult offense to defend or stop when it is being executed perfectly. The scoring is balanced, the ball is moving, players always seem to be in the right spot at the right time for a timely pass or shot. And unlike the Celtics and other older clubs that sacrifice offensive rebounding to get back on defense, the Lakers with the Triangle can attack the glass while still getting back in defensive transition.

Tom. I loved it! I especially loved the part about Michael Jackson in your next to last paragraph. I did not know he was also a basketball player!

Well written and I agree with EVERYTHING you said!

Exactly, Kobe is overrated, IMHO.

Heat - 2010/2011 NBA World Champions. I said it, and you heard it here first.

Posted by: Terry | April 04, 2011 at 07:04 PM


LMAO...You say that because LeBrick is to STUPID to understand the Triangle Offense...

If you want to talk about overrated...Let's talk about LeBrick...The King...LOL
What is he a king of??? What has he accomplished except getting swept in the Finals and winning popularity contests...That is overrated in my book...

Terry -

PS...Heat as Champs we've been hearing since he brought his talents to South Beach...Season hasn't started and we had to endure those posts in here from your fellow trolls...So no we haven't heard that first from your post...

So you get NO CREDIT what so ever...and I have to give you a fail...and you have to repeat 8th grade...

I suppose along with others Kobe did not shoot well against the Denver, 10 of 27?

Island Priest, where is Mamba24?

@KOBEMVP888 … You know, I ought to preview and edit those things better but I’ve found that I still miss things so it must be senioritis. Michael Jackson, wow, where did I pull that one from. Watching a pretty ugly NCAA championship game. I kind of like the idea of the NBA changing and allowing kids to come out straight from high school or wait until after their junior year. It would be better for the league as well as the college game. Anyway, I think it’s the championship game but it got so boring I put it on mute and starting reading a book and score watching the game.

Don't you guys love it when people come on our blog to talk about La-Bra-n? Terry why don't go on the Heat's blog and praise your "king". When La-Bra-n gets at least 2 Rings, come back and we'll talk.
Kobe is the best in the NBA Period........ I don't recall him going to Another Man's team to TRY and win a championship. Let's see.....Kobe has 5 and they are all with the LAKERS!!!!
What all the Laker haters needed to realize, before you can be EFFECTIVE in your COMPARISON.....have CONCRETE EVIDENCE to back it up!!!

Just like the Olympics...they didn't win until they had KOBE....Your La-Bra-n couldn't do it without him the previous year!!!!!
David Stern may Love and Treasure La-Bra-n just like you and other people., but he has yet to see him in October of any year presenting a NBA Ring!!!!!!!
So keep living and maybe when Kobe retires, La-Bra-n may win one, but then again, D. Rose and K. Durant may be next in line...... :-)

What do we play for RINGS!!!!!!

Flip the switch...??? i don't buy this.

I would agree with Phil, Kobe, and Fish. NBA season is a long season. The battle is not to the swift nor it is for the mighty. It is about perfecting the execution of the offense and honing the defensive mindest. Slowly peaking until all cylinders are working harmoniously.

Never too high, never too low.

Banner 17 here we come!!! Go lakers!!! Go kobe!!!

Pau seems alright. I don't think he would have been lifting weights, as he mentioned, if there was major concern about his knee.

Very interesting discussion on the triangle offense, PJ's coaching, etc. One can cite and argue many different things to prove a point one way or the other.

Here's what I think. It's hard to argue with results. PJ and his system, AND the great and not so great players that have comprised his teams, have won a mind boggling ELEVEN NBA titles. In the highly competitive, intense and contentious world of NBA basketball, PJ and his system and his players have dominated the landscape for the past 20 years. I don't see how anyone can belittle that accomplishment.

GSW fans wax nostalgic about their one championship in 1975. Knick fans go on and on about their 2 chips back in the day. To win once in the NBA is incredible. To win ELEVEN times is unprecedented.

As Phil Jackson goes for an unheard of 4th THREEPEAT, doubters still pop up questioning his coaching ability and his leadership. I find it incredible. Phil must be doing something right. And the triangle is a big part of that.

Gotta love it when Heat fans show up extolling the virtues of LeBronda and the Miami Mermaids.
We, as fans of the game can give LeBronda his due as a great player. However, as Laker fans, the only thing that impresses us is winning the O'Brien. The rest is just fluff.



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