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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 98-80 Game 6 victory over New Orleans Hornets

Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest flexes after scoring against Hornets point guard Chris Paul in Game 6 on Thursday night. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times / April 28, 2011

This is a photo-caption contest in itself. When Ron Artest flexed his muscles during Thursday's game, it was the equivalent of Chick Hearn saying the game was in the refrigerator. At that point, everyone knew the Lakers had secured the victory. 

Game stories

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains how the Lakers' size proved too overwhelming in their 98-80 Game 6 victory over the New Orleans Hornets. 

--The Times-Picayune's Jimmy Smith believes the Lakers' size proved too much for the Hornets. 

--The Daily News' Elliott Teaford details how the Lakers evolved throughout the series. 

Sidebars

--The Times' Broderick Turner credits Lamar Odom's Game 6 performance.

--The Times' Chris Dufresne points out Chris Paul's ineffectiveness in Game 6. 

--The Times-Picayune's John Reid explains why Paul remains optimistic about the team's future. 

Notebooks

--The Times' Bresnahan and Turner examine how Pau Gasol improved throughout the first-round series against New Orleans. 

--The Daily News' Teaford highlights the NBA's decision to upgrade Kobe Bryant's foul on Emeka Okafor in Game 5 to a flagrant-1. 

Video

The Basketball Jones put together a video compilation of Artest's muscle flex.

Columns

--The Times' Bill Plaschke says the Lakers' tough first-round series will help prepare them for later in the playoffs.

--The Times' T.J. Simers pokes fun at Plaschke for saying the Lakers should've traded Andrew Bynum for Carmelo Anthony.

--ESPN.com's J.A. Adande contends that the Lakers are unstoppable when they feel like playing. 

--The Times-Picayune's John DeShazier credits the Hornets' effort. 

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding explains how the Lakers have learned to play smart. 

--The Times-Picayune's Peter Finney believes the Hornets simply ran out of fight. 

--Yahoo! Sports' Johnny Ludden relays the anecdote that a Blazers fan told Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki to make sure the Mavericks "beat L.A."

--ESPN Los Angeles' Arash Markazi looks at how the Lakers are successful at closing out games. 

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin chalks up the Lakers' first-round win over the Hornets to their defense. 

--Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears talks to two NBA scouts who believed the Lakers weren't really trying and simply paced themselves against New Orleans. 

--Sports Illustrated's Ian Thomsen believes the Lakers' front line will give plenty of other teams trouble. 

Blogs

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky breaks down the Lakers' victory over New Orleans. 

--Silver Screen and Roll's C.A. Clark believes the Lakers had no problem beating the Hornets. They just took their time doing it. 

--Forum Blue and Gold's Phillip Barnett details how the Lakers closed out the series with defense. 

--Hornets 24/7's Joe Gerrity credits New Orleans for putting together a solid 2010-2011 season. 

--At the Hive's Rohan explains how the Hornets eventually fell apart against the Lakers. 

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell provides a running diary of the Lakers-Hornets game. 

Tweet of the Day: "Finally close them out. CP3 & Trev were tough, but we figured them out.. Couple days off to rest, then back to business.." -- Matt_Barnes22 (Lakers forward Matt Barnes)

Rick Friedman Reader Comment of the Day: "Dallas vs LA Dirk vs Kobe Cuban vs Buss Texas vs California Steak vs Sushi Beer vs Wine Tornados vs Earthquakes This series is going to be fun!" -- Fatty

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest flexes after scoring against Hornets point guard Chris Paul in Game 6 on Thursday night. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times / April 28, 2011

 
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"Not the historical perspective that I look at. As shocking as this might sound, I actually have faith in Phil Jackson in these situations. He didn't have HCA in 2 of his 3 three-peat seasons ('93 Bulls and '98 Bulls). He's batting 1.000 in these situations. In other words, with Coach Eleven Rings guiding us, the odds are actually in our favor.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 29, 2011 at 11:22 AM "

There's always a creative way to make the statistics work in favor of an argument. Teams are just historically more likely to win with HCA than without it and all statistics back that up.

If someone says Phil and the Lakers can't win without HCA, they are wrong. If someone says Phil and the Lakers will have a harder time in a series without HCA, they are right.

Posted by: Bay to LA | April 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM
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Facts are facts. The fact that PJ is 55-1 when his teams have a lead in a playoff series, the fact that they are 48-0 when his teams win Game 1 of a playoffs series, that they are 12-0 when they win Game 3 after being tied 1-1, etc, etc, etc, all should give you CONFIDENCE to back up his 2-0 record without HCA in three-peat seasons. So should the fact that we've closed out successfully on the road 6 consecutive times.

The ONLY time HCA is "HUGE" is in the NBA Finals, however, in the last 30 years, the Finals have gone 7 games only 5 times (16.7%). Therefore, the odds are that it won't go 7 games anyway.

Anyway, if this discussion doesn't define my GHF vs, your GHE attitude, I don;t know what does. When it comes to Phil Jackson coaching a team in the third year of a three-peat opportunity, he happens to be 3-0. There's that confidence (GHF) vs. the Law of Averages and attitude that HCA is "HUGE" approach that you take (GHE). But you can go with your hunch that the Mavs will beat us and I will stick with Philip, Kobe & Company. I prefer my more relevant stats to your general stats. Mine are more specific.

BTW, this could all be moot if the Spurs lose and the Chowds come out of the East, both distinct possibilities.

@Fatty – congrats on the Friedman

@Mark G – Cake and Faces…two thumbs up!

@jefe – Linda doing a Lowell classic…nice. I think the Lakers are “Willin” to send the Mavs packing.

@GDUB – I definitely enjoyed the Lee Morgan selections. I got a little work done while chillin to it.

I’m looking forward to the Lakers “Raining” on Cuban’s parade. So I’m feeling a little Candlebox for my selection today….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJS2kkR2U0Q&feature=related

On the other hand, can we actually wait for Dwight Howard’s contract to expire before we put him in purple and gold? :-)
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom
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Thanks.

FWIW, I would love to see Drew be the Finals MVP and I mean that sincerely.
I really do like him a lot.
I like his off-the-cuff remarks even though he probably says things he shouldn't sometimes, but don't we all.
I like his new post all-star game, his attitude. He seems to be embracing his role more than ever.
I would love to see him continue to be aggressive and take charge of games and the team, though Kobe might have something to say about that.
I hope more of the Kobe killer instinct rubs off on him.
I see the same potential you see.

The only thing about him that concerns me are the knees.

That being said, please try to keep in mind that any trade talk is just based on trying to be objective.

Some people are player fans, some people are team fans.
I am a team fan, so perhaps it's easier for me to consider different options 'for the team' though I can see how in some peoples eyes that may seem to be showing disloyalty to the player. That's not how it's intended.

Maybe those options sometimes discussed aren't the best move in some other peoples opinion, I respect that.

You have a good point about waiting to discuss until contract expiration, but it's so hard to do :)

Anyway, not knowing what the new CBA will look like is another good reason to go easy on trade talks.

But you know as well as I do, it (the trade talk) will keep happening.
Go with the flow...

Trade talk is always fun. Drew has played great. I like Drew fine. I also think I'd do that Howard trade for health reasons, but I respect Tom's liking of Drew. Everyone has their opinion. I think the real upgrade needed is a nice quick PG, if not a CP3, Aaron Brooks would have been a nice one to have gotten. It's a shame we traded Sasha for nothing when we may have had that chance at Brooks.

Fatty congrats on the Friedman...I was cracking up when I read it...Only people who live or has lived in So Cal can really relate to that post...lol

Good choice MM...

Mavs...rhymes with Cavs...both teams with a history of losing in the playoffs and never winning the BLING...

I predict Lakers win in 5...

No stats or research...that is my gut feeling...and let's hope it's not GAS...

LAKERS PLAYOFF EFF RATINGS !!!
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EFF = points + boards + assists + steals + blocks – missed shots – missed free throws – turnovers
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Player / EFF per game / EFF per 48 min / NBA rank
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Andrew Bynum / 20.7 / 32.1 / 14th
Pau Gasol / 17.7 / 23.6 / 29th
Kobe Bryant / 17.5 / 24.5 / 30th
Ron Artest / 14.3 / 21.1 / 43rd
Lamar Odom / 13.0 / 22.1 / 52nd
Derek Fisher / 11.5 / 16.4 / 55th
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TOM


@MM ... Thanks for the link to Kevin Ding’s article about the Lakers smarts. It’s something that we on the blog take for granted but are reminded of every time we read what Kobe, Derek, Pau, Drew, Lamar, and Ron speak. Their gray matter is definitely a cut above the normal NBA player.
...
Ding also made a big point about how smartly Kobe Bryant played last night. Even after tweaking his knee once again, Kobe showed the ice water in his veins as he drilled a game changing 3 to put the Lakers back up by double digits after a Hornets 3 had cut the lead to 7.
...
Ironically, you would hope that as smart as they are, the Lakers would pound the ball inside every game like they did last night. Maybe now that their attention has been held, we’ll see them play smart inside-out basketball for the rest of these playoffs. If we do, nobody will be able to beat us.
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TOM


@Mark G
One of my faves from Cake!

@LRob
Surprised me bigtime with that Candlebox tune!- first time hearing that one. I actually saw them at the 1994 K-Roq weenie roast.

@Fatty
Great comparo take for the Friedman!

These are my first two of the day:
another great Cake song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99a6K81zqM

Afghan Whigs(they played the same show with Candlebox):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRiaYIIkLmw

Tom,

I think if we can get our bigs to post low and hold it, that's where to go. Think about if Kobe is the 3rd option, what an option! I'll bet Kobe couldn't believe how open he was for that 3! That's what can happen if we get it inside and the bigs perform.

MM,

Would like insta-post back, can't you just Ban the clowns? I know ya gotta do what ya gotta do, just don't like to see everyone pay for the clowns.

@LEWSTERS ... You forgot my little GTO with 389 cu in engine and Tri-power. It was my very first new car and won many back road drags against slower less muscular Mustangs and Camaros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_FSicQWimU
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TOM


@DJ ... I agree 100% I think you need to be practicing your swings. 0 homers, 5 rbi’s, and a .250 batting average are very un-Jeter-like. JK. I know you’re waiting until the NBA playoffs are over but it might be too late by then. Can’t have you hitting like the Botox. :-)
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TOM

Hey we're going to have a post up in a little bit on the Mavs-Lakers series, which is being edited right now. I have banned trolls' ip addresses but they make new ones so I just wanted to use moderation to help control everything. I've been approving comments as they come since I'm at my computer. There may be times I'll put insta post back on if I have to go somewhere but I don't want to announce it in case trolls try to come back.

MVP - The Spurs are done! They won't survive the Grizz. I never bought into their regular season hype. So the question that begs to be answered is....
Did Pop do a great job in getting this squad to win 60+ games in the regular season? Or did Pop do a poor job in not getting this team ready for the playoffs?
I say the latter. He should've played Splitter a lot more in the regular season to get him ready for the "real season" because there's no way they could go far without more size on the court. Having said that he's still a great coach, but didn't do a very good job this season imho. They haven't recovered from giving away Scola!
Posted by: LRob | April 29, 2011 at 08:00 AM
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The Spurs were killing the other teams with their 3-pt shooting during the regular season. They had the NBA best 39.7% 3pt shooting during the regular season (and it was a 3-pt shot that saved their season with 1.7 secs left in the last game).

But all of a sudden their 3-pt shooting abandoned them; they are just shooting 31.0 % from 3-pt during the MEM series. Why? I think part of it is Marc Gasol. Defending Tim Duncan usually requires a double team/help defense. That allows the 3-pt shooter open looks. However, Marc is able to guard Timmy one-on-one without fouling; in fact Timmy is 10 pts below his normal playoff shooting production. Without the double team on TD, the MEM defenders are able to harass the 3-pt shooters on the perimeter.

The Gasol brothers seem to have a special Certificate of Ownership over Tim Duncan.

Hey we're going to have a post up in a little bit on the Mavs-Lakers series, which is being edited right now. I have banned trolls' ip addresses but they make new ones so I just wanted to use moderation to help control everything. I've been approving comments as they come since I'm at my computer. There may be times I'll put insta post back on if I have to go somewhere but I don't want to announce it in case trolls try to come back.

Posted by: Mark Medina | April 29, 2011 at 02:11 PM

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Banning the IP address is easy to defeat. Just google 'Free Proxy Server'...

good job MM, beware of the trolls! ha ha

MM,

That's fine, thanks!

TOM,

I know, I know!

nice job by L.A. closing out the series in n.o. now some much needed rest for the Lakers and kobe's ankle. i'd like to see p.j. give the team a couple of days off, especially those who are banged up. my key to the series, is the Lakers controlling shaun marion. he's at his best cleaning up the garbage underneath the basket, getting to lose balls and he's been pretty good at posting up on artest in this years series bewteen the two teams. marion went for 22pts, 25pts in the 1st two games. in the 3rd and final game, he was held to just 9 pts. he's an "energy guy" and scares me more than dirk and jason terry. Lakers in 6!

"Facts are facts. The fact that PJ is 55-1 when his teams have a lead in a playoff series, the fact that they are 48-0 when his teams win Game 1 of a playoffs series, that they are 12-0 when they win Game 3 after being tied 1-1, etc, etc, etc, all should give you CONFIDENCE to back up his 2-0 record without HCA in three-peat seasons. So should the fact that we've closed out successfully on the road 6 consecutive times.

The ONLY time HCA is "HUGE" is in the NBA Finals, however, in the last 30 years, the Finals have gone 7 games only 5 times (16.7%). Therefore, the odds are that it won't go 7 games anyway.

Anyway, if this discussion doesn't define my GHF vs, your GHE attitude, I don;t know what does. When it comes to Phil Jackson coaching a team in the third year of a three-peat opportunity, he happens to be 3-0. There's that confidence (GHF) vs. the Law of Averages and attitude that HCA is "HUGE" approach that you take (GHE). But you can go with your hunch that the Mavs will beat us and I will stick with Philip, Kobe & Company. I prefer my more relevant stats to your general stats. Mine are more specific.

BTW, this could all be moot if the Spurs lose and the Chowds come out of the East, both distinct possibilities.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 29, 2011 at 12:38 PM "

Since Phil is 55-1 when he has a lead in a series and 48-0 after winning game 1, don't you see how it's nice to have that first game at home, making it as winnable as possible?

You're selectively choosing only the statistics that help your case and dismissing those that harm it. I already discussed before that all threepeat teams are not created equal and I don't expect everything to play out identically. Also, your statistics here give the Lakers a 0% chance next year since none of Phil's teams ever fourpeated or won the year after he left. I know that my predictions won't affect the final outcomes so I'm not looking for reasons to stack the deck in my favor. I'm letting it all play out.

No matter who the coach is, no matter who is playing, no matter what is happening, HCA is better than not having HCA. Phil's record with HCA is better than his record without HCA. Phil's record in playoff home games is better than his playoff road games. He can win without HCA but if you think it's meaningless, you're not deferring to Phil.

Here is my caption of the photo:

Chris Paul - "Mommy, that bad man took my candy!"
Ron Artest - (FLEX)


ANDREW BYNUM VS. DWIGHT HOWARD HEAD-TO-HEAD
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Per 2010-11 Regular Season NBA.com Stats Cube:
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Player / Points / Rebounds / Assists
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Drew when Dwight on floor / 17.7 points / 17.7 boards / 1.3 assists
(Points and boards are 10% or more GREATER than regular season average)
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Dwight when Drew on floor / 18.3 points / 11.1 boards / 1.3 assists
(Points and boards are 10% or LESS than regular season average)
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TOM

Did I mention that Mark Cuban has creepy doll eyes?

Because he does.

I enjoy watching the Lakers contribute to his slow slide into the depths of insanity.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

PompousTom-

I read your wisecrack about the BoSox! Im not a Bosox fan but since Laker fan keeps insisting that I am, Im kinda leaning that way. As bad as the BoSox have played, they are only 4 games back of the Yanks. A 4 game lead in April is hardly unsurmountable!!

I saw Shaq errrrrrrr Bart Colon pitch the other day. Cant wait for September to see that rotation of Bart, Garcia and Pryor. LOL!!!

131-92 - You make fun and disrespect our great player Derek Fisher...

What do you have, some jailbait PG Rajon Rondo...lmao...(he would be a big hit in prison)...

"I'm going to pout cuz you guys traded my best friend Gorilla Perkins..."

Then you guys will resort to signing one of our "used parts" Shaq as your savior and now think you can beat us...The Big Complainer, who is still "healing on company time"

So please, before dissing this Laker team...Look at you current team before being so bold...

If the Finals doesn't go 7 games anyway, and you're on the road, you're either way ahead or way behind. I thought the Lakers had a chance in 08' until they blew that lead - but that's the problem, so few teams can win all three on their home court (Det & Mia being the only ones EVER)

Therefore, should the Lakers advance that far, then winning game 1 is crucial. Boston split last year by winning game 2, but still couldn't get it done. Game 1 will be very important.

LEWSTERS-

Do you not know how to read English or you just a moron? What have I said about Fisher? Why dont you go back to doing your stupid buses?

Jailbait Rondo? I think Kobe would be a big hit in jail and other places too. And hes been a lot closer to a jail than Rondo ... last time I checked, Rondo has never had to pay to stay out of jail.

We didnt resort to signing one of yours! You didnt draft him! If he was one of yours you wont be talking smack about him. BTW,I see you resorted to signing one of ours to be your next coach!! And you resorted to signing Fox another one of ours!!

So please before dissing me ... why dont you get your facts straight, you fool!!!

131-92 - Sorry your post blended in with our in house Fish hater...SPerkins...

No you actually dissed CP3 which is worst than dissing Fish...

CP3 is IMO the best PG in the league...so the same reply with my post on Rondo part...lol

So 131-92 has fantasies about being alone with Kobe in a jail cell? Shudder.

LEWSTERS-

Is this the post you are talking about ....

Our 2nd round opponents maybe be midgets but they are very talented midgets! As opposed to the midgets you just played. {{{Except}}} for Paul of course and a couple of others that are ok but just too small in size and/or talent level.
Posted by: 131-92 | April 29, 2011 at 02:34 PM

Now that you've had a chance to read it 3 or 4 times ... do you see the word "except?" I highlighted it for you cuz apparently your not the sharpest tool in the shed!! Do you know what that word means???

Let me use it in another sentence, maybe this will help ...
The Lakers have won more Titles than every team in the NBA {{{{except}}}} for Boston!!
Did that help??

So the same reply with my post about you being a moron part....lol

Laker fan-

Congrats on beating the Mens 6' & under League Representatives!

Your bigs were dominant but I doubt you'll be facing anymore 6'-7" starting "power forwards" in the future.

Id ask for your opinion on how to beat Miami but since they've smoked you both times this year, it probably wouldnt be too informative. (Not that that would stop you from giving it)


Posted by: 131-92 | April 29, 2011 at 11:47 AM

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No this was the post I was talking about...Didn't see the other posts...

What's the matter...you a little sensitive...did I insult you in you in my post or attack you like you are doing to me now...So if you want to get technical...my handle is LEWSTRS not LEWSTERS...who is the sharpest tool in the shed now...

Your nothing but Chowder slime anyway...and read the top of the page...

LAKERS BLOG...so you are the guest here...try to behave like one...no wonder everyone likes to bag on you...

Fact is CP3 runs circles around Rondo...and I would take Fish over that feminine jailbait dude too....

Stick and stones bro...doesn't change the facts...

Lakers will beat your sorry ass Chowds again this year if they make it that far...

LEWSTRS-

Im sorry ... I thought Jailbait Rondo and Gorilla Perkins were "attacks" ... I didnt realize you were being nice. My bad, I misinterpreted your compliments!! You are tooo nice!!

If thats the post you were talking about ... How did you think I was talking about Fisher??? How did S Perkins "blend in??" Or are you just trying to save face???

131-92

I will make fun or insult an opposing player...but not the poster, unless I have to defend my self...

You should of read stuff I use to post about Artest and Barnes, till they wore the Purple and Gold...

But I understand, I can be very defensive too, when I read someone insulting players on my team...

LEWSTRS-

Could you please explain what you meant by "Gorilla" Perkins? Does he remind you of a Gorilla?

Dont think Rev. Jackson would be too happy to hear those comments!! Or the LA Times for that matter!!

Please feel free to explain!!

Yes I do think he looks like a gorilla...and that has nothing to do with his race...so don't even go to the race card...

You don't think he looks like a gorilla...besides...he is on the Thunder now...

So it's not like you have to challenge me to a duel to protect his honor...

lol

And after Gorilla boy called Gasol soft...It was open season on him...

Back to Rondo...even with my disparaging remarks about him...I still feel Chowders go as far as he can take them...little known to you...I will divulge that I give him that professional courtesy and respect, but this is off the record, and I would deny till I die in a court of law...

Just a little FYI, since this is the first time we have interacted...The Chowds is who I expect to come out of the East...I have been a Laker fan since 79...and nothing is sweeter to win another championship at the expense of our long time rival...your Chowds...If you are a die hard Celts fan...I think you would feel the same...

I'm not the bad guy, shallow Laker fan your first impression conclusion you have come to...

I'm more than a Bus/Suburban/Bandwagon fan you have categorized me as...

LEWSTRS-

I was just wondering. No race card but Kobe got fined 100k for less.

Even though Perk is at Oklahoma, he is still a Celtic in my book. Thats why I said that if Shaq was "one of yours" you wouldnt be talking smack about him. I dont think you should be talking smack about a guy who put you back on the map after 10yrs of garbage, unless he did something to you and you dont consider him "one of yours" but you cant have it both ways!!

I have no problem with you rooting for your Lakers. I think you know that Im a die hard Celtic fan and nothing I want more than to kick the Lakers ass but I dont think its necessary to call players those kinds of things. Especially when you were responding about something I didnt even say.

You say Perk is in Oklahoma but you came to CP3's defense yet he isnt and never has been a Laker!

But Im good ... we can bury the hatchet!!

No problem 131-92...

I for one always like to hear an opposing fans outlook and opinions...I think that is part of the fun of being a fan...debating with the opposition...

But I would like to keep it civil and professional...nothing wrong with sparring with the other fans...and I respect how other fans will really back up their team...if they are a die hard...then I wouldn't expect any less...

Yes CP3 is not a Laker, but he is one of my favorite players in the league, and was on my FBB team...and your innuendo of the 6' and under made me conclude it was an chop directed at him...maybe since I'm only 5'8", I always come to the rescue of the 'vertically challenged'...lol

It's all good...but I would really like to see the rubber match in the Finals...So if it happens, I see more rounds of jabs and uppercuts with you...Now we have set the ground rules...I'm looking forward to it...


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