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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 95-87 loss to Golden State Warriors

60712682Note: We here at the Lakers blog know how important the fans are. You’re cheering them on in the stands, diligently watching the game at home (while you scream and yell, of course) and you're even sporting Lakers gear around the city. Now we want to see it!

Since the playoffs are around the corner, The Times is asking readers to submit their Lakers photos, whether it be you and your family at a game, or a pic of the guy on the Metro wearing his purple and gold wig on the way to Staples Center.   We want it all. Even Lakers flags on cars? Sure, why not.

Each week, the Lakers blog will feature a Lakers fan photo in one of the "Caught in the Web" posts so the rest of the city can see Angelenos' boundless dedication. Here's how to submit photos: Perhaps the easiest way is to upload a picture on the L.A. Times Lakers Facebook page. On the go? Send us your pics through Twitter. Just include the hashtag #latlakers when you create your tweet. And if you’re on Flickr, join the Lakers@L.A.Times photo pool.  

DISCLAIMER All photos must be: 1) original — because it is so uncool to steal other people’s work; 2) unaltered — you know what we’re saying. We’re looking for a real moment, no showing off every Photoshop skill you ever acquired. Of course, slight exposure and color correction are acceptable; 3) Recent photos, please – we’re talking current moments, not from your archive collection. Be sure to describe your photograph in detail, including where and when it was made. Photographers agree that The Times may reproduce photos in any format.

Another note: I'm also planning to ask Matt Barnes fan questions. You may recall I did something similar with Ron Artest in two separate posts (Part 1 and Part 2). Share your questions in the comments threads and I'll pick the 10 best to ask Barnes. Now onto the links below the jump

Game stories

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains the Lakers' poor effort in their 95-87 loss Wednesday to the Golden State Warriors.

--The San Francisco Chronicle's Rusty Simmons mentions how it was always a dream for new Warriors owner Joe Lacob to beat the Lakers. Well, he got his wish on his first day on the job. 

--The Oakland Tribune's Marcus Thompson II notices the Warriors had nothing to lose. 

Notebooks

--The Times' Bresnahan reports that Lakers color analyst Stu Lantz will be back next year.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding notes Lakers Coach Phil Jackson won't pay attention to the standings until the final week of the season.

Sidebars

--Fox Sports lists Bryant at the sixth spot for league MVP because he hasn't had many game winners and Bynum's been the main ingredient behind the Lakers' resurgence.

Blogs

---ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky breaks down the Lakers' loss to Golden State.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell details the game in a running diary.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Jeff Skibiski analyzes the Lakers' turnovers.

Tweet of the Day: "Warrior Girls beat the Laker Girls in the dance contest and now Warrior Guys beat our Lakers... no bueno" -- BriBree (Laker girl Bri)

Rick Friedman Reader Comment of the Day: ""I don't care who it is, but they should have a button they can press when a Chick-ism is appropriate during the game. Imagine after a horrible non-call by the refs with the crowd booing (e.g., Kobe or AB getting creamed without a call for a change), the play-by-play guy can just press a button and WE get to hear: "There are 20,000 referees in the building, but only three of them have whistles."

Or when LeBron does his crab crawl: "He did the bunny hop in a pea-patch." Or when we're getting blown out at the appropriate time in the game: "The Lakers haven't had the lead since Hector was a pup!" etc, etc, etc I wonder if Marge would sanction that. My guess is that she would say: "Your chances are slim and none and slim just left the building!"" -- Jason L

-- Mark Medina and Sarah Ardalani

mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant splits the defense of Warriors guards Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry in the first half Wednesday night at Oracle Arena. Credit: Ben Margot / Associated Press

 
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Here we go again!

repost:
Time for the TIVO experiment - TIVO it, look at the box score after the game is over and then decide to watch it or not.

At least until the playoffs start.

Looks like we'll be out in round one if Pau, LO, bench does not get its act together soon!

Also, what was that series of DFish shots!? Trying to finally get him involved offensively a few games from the playoffs!? I think he missed 3-5 shots in a row from open spots and in the trees. Yikes! Experiment in training camp, PJ.

Remember: Late last year we had significant injuries to Kobe and AB, so - no - this year is not just like last year. There is no injury excuse this year past the usual myriad of Kobe injuries. This year is inexcusable and lazy and weak and forced. Take your pick of which adjective goes with which player(s).

Looks like to me there will be a housecleaning no matter who comes in next year. This squad is not motivated enough past Kobe, MB, DF. A yelling coach is what they need right now - not one sitting on his laurels passively while Rome burns. Get rid of the laughing blow-this-one-off attitudes seen in LO, LW, et al when they are blowing it up on the court and off. Too many off court distractions this year for LO, RA to focus on their real job - basketball, IMO.

This Laker team is shooting free throws worse than I did! Hard to imagine!

As it was stated, turnovers and rebounding hustle are what is killing us in past 3 games. Kwame-Pau is seemingly going through pouting motions out there right now. I say rest him until the playoffs. Play JS, TR, DC and get some minutes for them. We are losing all these games anyway - might just as well rest some players instead of wasting their pathetic efforts on the court during the rest of the practice season (now looks like training camp season).

Bynum doesn't get more shots because Kobe continues to take about as many shots as Bynum and Gasol combined. Between his gambling defense giving up wide open shot after wide open shot, and his propensity to dominate the ball of offense (while shooting a low percentage), Kobe is as much to blame for the last 3 losses as anything.

Seems to me that when your young center plays with the energy and passion that Bynum has shown of late (40 rebounds in last 2 games!) you need to reward that effort by pounding the ball to him. Instead, the Lakers (starting with Kobe, but by no means limited to him) jack up three point shots and just mindlessly swing the ball around the perimeter. Every single half court possession should start with a post-entry pass to Bynum or Gasol. That these guys haven't figured this out yet is really, really disappointing.

Posted by: God | April 07, 2011 at 08:16 AM


A VERY SIMPLE FIX:

Phil asked Kobe, "WHO IS OPEN?" and Kobe responded, "no one except me".

Phil then suggested:

"I like to see everybody involved in the game," Jackson said. "I've tried to preach as a basketball coach, even though we have a guy that dominates the ball in Kobe, basketball is not a one on one game — it's a team game."

Kwame-Pau meant Kwame-hands - Pau

I have mixed feelings about Spero Dedes taking over for Joel Meyers. When Meyers first took over for Paul Sunderland, I hated his style. His voice was too deep and monotone. Paul Sunderland did an excellent job in continuing the Chick Hearn style of broadcasting. So when Joel Meyers came in it was just too much change. I wanted to hear Chick Hearn's style.

But Joel Meyers grew on me. He had a rough beginning, he wasn't the most knowledgeable basketball guy. Stu would constantly be correcting him on basketball issues. Joel has worked hard though in truly understanding the game and now really can give some good insight on the players and the game itself. Joel's style is something different too. Chick was Chick. Paul Sunderland is not Chick. Chick Hearn's style is Chick Hearn's style. Joel Meyers style is Joel Meyers style. I can respect that. And it is a very cool style with that monotone voice. Sunday night games are perfect with Joel Meyers, they are just super relaxing Laker nights. So I'm kind of sad to see him go.

Spero Dedes should be a nice change though. I haven't heard too much of him since I watch most games on TV. But I hear nothing but good things about his play by play. As long as they keep Stu, I'm good. Because anything less, "will NOT get it done."

Go Lakers!

BTW, bigs are supposed to get most of their shots off offensive rebound putbacks or assisted off a penetration pass. NOT back to the basket banging back and forth without much base while 2-3 other pesky defenders swat at the ball for turnovers. Barkley, KB, MJ, and very strong willed types like that are the only ones who can reliably get a post move these days, UNLESS that post player has reliable 3 point (outside) shooters open on the perimeter who will keep those pesky defenders on their perimeter man like they are supposed to be!

The Lakers are recently without that shooter, since Shannon has taken the marriage plunge or whatever else is keeping him off the practice shooting court (along with DF, Blake, etc.) and the free throw practice court (AB, PG, DF, LO, etc. etc.). Even Kobe who can hit those 3 point shots has an opposing coach who actually coaches up his players to stay on Kobe on the perimeter, unlike PJ, who says 'I told them that in training camp, so my job is done'.

Great article!!

Would it kill the announcers to give us a flashback once in a while like 'the jello's jigglin' ?

zzzzzzzzz

Give me the PLAYOFFS already! All this over-analysis is absurd and shame on any Lakers fan who has doubts about this team after it showed what it is made of after the All-Star break and after back-to-back championships! The Lakers know exactly who they are and exactly what they are capable of and they are just biding their time until the Real Season starts. Yes, it's irritating to watch them play this way, but all this freaking out about our guards and the bench and all this other crap is laughable. This team has what other teams don't have: an IDENTITY. The Lakers finished their pre-playoffs prep a little early know exactly what they can do. Period. Other than hopefully staying ahead of the Heat and the Chowds (who still have to play each other one more time), these games are meaningless and absolutely NOTHING should be read into them. The ONLY thing that matters right now is HEALTH.

1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!!

Thank goodness the long NBA season is FINALLY ending.

The NBA season is just too long. 82 games is just too many. And after 82 games, they let over HALF of the teams into the playoffs from each conference. Pretty goofy if you ask me.

Let's get this season over with already and get on to the real deal.

Lakers Playoffs - "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year"

Jason L

Congrats on the Friedman (which was my post). You must have copied it in one of your posts and commented on it, while MM and/or SA credited it as your original post. I must say, it's brilliant! :)

Turnovers and horrific free throw shooting did the Lakers in last night - hopefully this team is getting that stuff out of its system now rather than later.
The thing I'm much more vexed about is this business of the Laker Girls losing a dance off to the Warrior Girls as reported by Laker Girl Bri! Now that's just patently unaccceptable!!!

Why is Joel leaving? He grew on me too, and it seemed like he and Stu developed a good chemistry. Spero does a great job on the radio but I'm not sure how his style will translate to TV. He is a bit on the serious side.

nice posts nuggetscountry, you've hit it on the head! what i observed from last nights game is the bench isn't very condfident anymore. you look at blake and brown for example, there's no confidence in the way they're playing! yeah, they'll play well when the Lakers give them the lead, BUT when L.A. is DOWN, AND we need a boost from them, forget it! at least when sasha was around, he could get it going. i know there wasn't a shot he didn't like.....ala kobe, but at least sasha knew his role, put the ball in the basket. only a few positives to take from the game. 'drew again a beast on the boards, however, memo to the LAKERS, please get the ball into bynum! barnes has a solid game off the bench, kobe good game but no defense. it all starts with defense. if you're not going to commit to playing it, it's going to be a long night! L.A. got off to a blazing start, then reverted back to their old ways. i'd like to see p.j. for once stand up and yell at someone or somebody! i know it's not in his ZEN to do this, but whatever he's been doing or not doing for the last 3 games isn't working!

Looks like the Lakers are already ready for Easter- they have just laid three giant eggs in a row!

Maybe they are trying to slip down to third place so they don't have to face Portland.

Great news that Spero is going to replace Joel Myers! I actually like Paul Sunderland much more that Joel.

My first selection of the day is actually the new Foo Fighters album:
http://wastinglight.foofighters.com/

forgot to add:

Congrats on the Friedman, Jason L. Way to keep the spirit of Chick going!

so what your saying kobemvp888, is the Lakers are cruising and these games are meaningless? that when the playoffs start they'll flip the switch on? dfish will hit big shots when it counts, instead of forcing up garbage shots like last night, gasol won't have rebounds ripped from his hands from a guy wearing a pony-tail, kobe will actually play defense and not centerfield (that job is taken by the dodgers matt kemp)L.O. will box out with the game on the line, artest will hit big 3's again, the killer b's will play a vital role once again? yes, sometime we don get a little neurotic when we see the familiar pattern of NOT CARING on the court. yeah, the Lakers will probably be ok once the playoffs start, BUT if their going to plal like THIS, just forfeit the remaining 4 games and rest up!

LAKERS FANS,
Brace yourself with the six (sic) games losing streak. Past three against Denver, Utah, and Golden States and forthcoming losses to Portland, Oklahoma City, and San Antonio. After a nine consecutive win comes six game losing streak. It's really hard to analyze this Laker team if you are a betting man in Las Vegas. You can never tell when they gonna be very good and when they gonna be so funked. Do they ever know that the regular season is not over yet and they have to have a better record than the Celtics and the Heat to have HCA. Forget about the Spurs and the Bulls (they will not catch them anyway) I still believe that the Heat or the Celtics are the only team capable of beating them on a 7 games series. Without the HCA I don't think they can beat either of them.

Well, at least it can't be said that the Lakers aren't giving the other teams hope this year. They are close to losing HCA no matter who they play in the Finals.
It didn't have to be this way.
And to bad for Dr B, if they make it to the Finals and it goes 7, he loses one games revenue. The money he makes for a game 7 Finals at home is not insignificant.

Gotta be a youth movement to Spero...

There were negative rumors about the Sunderland takeover back when. Had a hard time warmin' to Joel and his face for radio, but he does keep it rollin'.

Chick's ghost will haunt the Lakers ad infinitum, but at least Spero will have multiple years ahead to carve out his own legend. Joel's shelf life is shorter.

Kobe, is not sharing the ball, everyone knows when he gets the ball, he is going to shoot it, no matter how many team mates he has open. Kobe, has been turning the ball over, or missing shots by way off, but he would reather give it up, then to give to his team mates. Bynum is doing great, but he has to be discouraged. Gasol, plays like an all star, (when he wants to) and then starts playing like a sissy, letting everyone come through for a layup, or giving up the ball, or really stupid fouls, we know what he can if he jumps a little to block a shot. Fish used to be dependable for free throws, all of a sudden, he can't find the hoop. And the bench as well as the starters, your job is to make shots, and play good defence, thats what you get paid for, you have to play like every game is a championship. When the Lakers put their selfishness aside, no one can touch the lakers, they play like champs, but they need to stop all the DRAMA and put the team frist!!!

Joel or Spero? I actually would prefer Andres Cantor, the Mexican futbol announcer who screams "Gooooooooooooooool!!!"

Just imagine Cantor's emotional rendition whenever Kobe makes a game-winning basket.

Next game - focus on this game... nothing else.
Next game - focus on this game... nothing else.
Next game - focus on this game... nothing else.
Next game - focus on this game... nothing else.
Next game - focus on this game... nothing else.

Playoffs starts ........16 wins........nothing else!

They are simply poorly coached. That's what it all comes to; forget about the repeat championships. Good coaching=good teams with very few bad habits like laziness, poor rebounding effort, poor defensive schemes, etc. They play defense only sparingly. Their overhyped Bryant shoots too many shots and likes to make easy things difficult, and no one, ABSOLUTELY no one tells him to share the ball, and play team basketball. And the funny thing is that he turns over the ball more often than anyone on the team, but you never hear of it from the adoring "sportswriters." Let poor Artest turn a ball over and hear what the crazy media do with it. When Bryant hogs the ball, the lazy ones on the team get the opportunity to let their laziness, and dare I say softness come out. Kiss your 3-peat goodbye because Denver is coming for it, baby. Phil Jackson should have retired when he had the chance because these lazy ones ain't gonna give him what he craves! Velvet robes and posture is not what the NBA is about. It is a game for men, although the Lakers like to go on the court in velvet robes most of the time.

Kobe likes to talk tough but has NEVER given anyone a hard foul before in any game; forget Odom who is physically weak from eating too many candies; Drew is the enforcer without his head. Although giving hard fouls is tough ball play, it ain't so if it is not on the ball. That is why he got tossed and lost 2 days of his paycheck.

To play tough basketball, they need to learn from super intelligent players Nene. Hilario fouls Gasoft hard and what does the softie do but put his giant tail between his legs preferring to shoot jumpshots instead of going into the paint. Did Nene get tossed? No. He stayed in the game and helped his team win, but he also kept his dollars. That is what intelligent ball players do. Red Auerbach said that championships are won from the neck up, when the would-be champions use their heads.

As for Odom, forget that weakling who hardly thinks on the court. Remember that he allowed Antonio McDyess to score Duncan's missed shot with a put-back because he left the man he was supposed to box out. Remember the foul on Channing Frye that allowed Phoenix to tie up the game sending it into triple overtime? This man continues to have brain farts all over the court. His recent weak effort in keeping Kenyon Martin off the board contributed to the loss to Denver; it wasn't the only reason but it was a major contributor, regardless of the late 3 points he made.

They ain't coming up on top in the West this year; No way, No how!

this was written:
Bynum doesn't get more shots because Kobe continues to take about as many shots as Bynum and Gasol combined. Between his gambling defense giving up wide open shot after wide open shot, and his propensity to dominate the ball of offense (while shooting a low percentage), Kobe is as much to blame for the last 3 losses as anything.

and some lame troll named Kobefan agreed.

doesn't it make you wonder if they actually watched the game?

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310401026

Bynum 4-7, Gasol 6-10, Kobe 6-14, LO 6-13,

Oddly enough the most free throws last night came from ... Kobe w/ 7-10.

However, some trolls can't stop harping on Kobe should take less shots.
Why does he want Kobe to take less shots? Because he doesn't want the
Lakers to win or because he doesn't understand the game of basketball or
maybe both.

When the Lakers do *NOT* play through Kobe they lose. Why? Because
he's the best player on the team. Because he opens up space for every
other player. Because he's the only one who demands a double-team.

However, we've been through all of this before. W/ Kobe averaging 20
shots per game, the Lakers have won 5 championships and been to the finals
7 times.

Like I said, we've been through this before. I did appreciate Phil pulling
Artest because Artest wouldn't give Kobe the ball.

Maybe Phil will give Pau some spinach and help him grow a spine.

Oh, well.


@KOBEMVP888 ... Congrats on the Friedman. (MM: PLEASE CORRECT THIS) I recognized the quote as yours from the thread asking if Lakers fans wanted Spero or Joel. Evoking memories of Chick will always win the hearts and souls of Lakers fans. I love your idea of a button that the public address announcer could click to spit out various Chickisms. Can’t wait for the playoffs. Coming to LA with Rose (iheartkb24) to watch the first playoff game a week from Sat. Hopefully we can get together before or after the game. Still not sure if I’m going to stay for the Sun game.
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@NUGGETS COUNTRY ... Well, now I know how you felt going a game in Denver and losing. I was 9-0 at Oracle Arena until this game. I also agree with your comments about Pau. We had the lead down to 8 points when Pau goes and throws up a freaking air ball rather than attacking the rim. He played embarrassingly weak and soft. David Lee totally outplayed him at both ends. Meanwhile, the bench was terrible, throwing up brick after brick, especially Blake and Brown.
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@ THE BULIMIC 1/2 EMPTY GLASS ... Welcome back, Ouuuchhh. I have to admit I was screaming at Pau to man up all game long. That air ball when we got close completely took the air of the Lakers fans at Oracle. And getting physically manhandled by Amundson was too much. Gasol is definitely not making much of an effort right now. I was 9-0 at Oracle until this game. Give credit to the Warriors fans as they drowned out our attempts to MVP Kobe at the line.
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@TROLL MAN ... This was actually the third game in a row where Drew has been by far the Laker player with the highest EFF rating for the game. Overall, Drew had an OK game for him. Too many turnovers and missed free throws. Great rebounding effort. I remember that pass from Fish as well as numerous other times when Drew was wide open underneath. I don’t understand why we start every game with Drew getting a great shot inside and then refuse to return there.
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@ART... Phil needs to ORDER the Lakers guards, especially Blake and Brown, to get the ball to Drew. He shoots 5-5 from the field while they shoot 1-11. Throw in Fish too as he consistently seemed to refuse to pass the ball to Drew and when he did, the passes were terrible. Drew and Kobe seemed to be the only Lakers playing physically last night. Drew was money on the boards, ripping rebounds above the rim and continuing to dominate the paint.
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@JEFE101 ... “The thing I'm much more vexed about is this business of the Laker Girls losing a dance off to the Warrior Girls as reported by Laker Girl Bri! Now that's just patently unacceptable!!!” I was at the game last night and actually thought the Warriors Girls were just spectacular. They did two dances with great dance moves that really showed their stuff. Very talented and synchronized. I am not surprised when I read your post. The Lakers Girls stuff seemed to be a generation behind the hip moves of the Warrior Girls.
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TOM


@HOBBITMAGE ... Better check your box score again. I know your big on stats but they really do not tell the complete story, especially when the stats you’re quoting are not from the game you supposedly watched. You did watch the game, didn’t you. LOL. :-)
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TOM

"Remember: Late last year we had significant injuries to Kobe and AB, so - no - this year is not just like last year. There is no injury excuse this year past the usual myriad of Kobe injuries. This year is inexcusable and lazy and weak and forced. Take your pick of which adjective goes with which player(s).
Posted by: NuggetsCountry | April 07, 2011 at 08:38 AM"

Good point. They can certainly turn this around just as easily as they stumbled into it but these are much different factors than last year.

Those losses last year came when they had the #1 spot well secured and were resting Bynum and Kobe to get them healthy for the playoffs. In retrospect Kobe probably didn't take off as much time as he should have and forced himself out there for some bad games down the stretch but it all worked out in the end.

The losses this year came when they were making a run to gain the first seed and had everyone in there playing and as close to 100% as you can hope for. It's much less explainable. In some ways it is actually a bit concerning that their wins and losses both seem to come in bunches this year. A losing streak in the playoffs is rewarded with a trip home.

Gasol is letting everybody down in the worst way. While being accused by everybody of being soft and his teammates vehemently defending him he comes out and play a string of games like a girl.

I've been criticizing Kobe Bryant a lot for being selfish and immature but that he has won 2 rings in a row with a rag doll as his team's second best player is quite remarkable.

This might be under the radar but the bigger repercussion of last night’s loss is that we may have lost HCA to Boston. The tie-break rules from NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html):

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Division won-lost percentage
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games

Assuming that both LAL and BOS run the tables and win all their remaining games, they both end up with similar 59-23 record. In this case, criteria #5 will apply. LAL is currently 34-14 in the Western Conference while BOS is 35-12 in the Eastern Conference. So if both LAL and BOS win all their remaining games, then BOS will have HCA over us, if they meet in the Finals.

Since we don’t have much chance of catching the Bulls, let’s all cheer for CHI to beat BOS tonight. Let’s go Bulls! Let’s go Bulls! Let’s go Bulls!

Sorry, the parentheses messed up the link in my previous post. Here is the tiebreaker link again:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html

@ART... Phil needs to ORDER the Lakers guards, especially Blake and Brown, to get the ball to Drew. He shoots 5-5 from the field while they shoot 1-11. Throw in Fish too as he consistently seemed to refuse to pass the ball to Drew and when he did, the passes were terrible. Drew and Kobe seemed to be the only Lakers playing physically last night. Drew was money on the boards, ripping rebounds above the rim and continuing to dominate the paint.
Posted by: LakerTom |
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Laker Tom,

It is perplexing how this team plays sometimes.
Anytime Fish or Brown take more shots than Drew they should be benched or a time out called and they should be told not to shoot again until Drew catches up.

Using the Heat as an example, Wade, James and Bosh take the most shots.
OKC most shots taken by Westbrook and Durant.
I wonder why...

Anyway, those are just two examples.

Kobe, Pau, Drew should be the top 3 shooters and Kobe shouldn't 'always' have to have the most shots.

Though I will add, it's not so much the number of shots Kobe takes, it's the quality of shots he takes.

Even if Drew doesn't always get a shot, the ball should go into him way more than it does.

Remember the arguments with the 2000-2004 Lakers getting the ball into Shaq. Why should that have ever been an issue? Why should it be now?

When you have a dominant center let him dominate.

If you're out there, Justa, this one is for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR_VhfxAnXU&feature=youtu.be

There is no way that your "Elaine" dance could be any worse than this!

Oh, btw, where's that video of the dance-off between the Warrior-Laker girls?
Sure would beat yet another picture of Kobe!

Laker's bench except for Odom is non-existent. Little offense and poor defense. Sasha (11.1 ppg) looks very good. Even Farmar looks decent except for his ball handling.

Mitch really did a great job in destroying the bench this year, all in the name of salary cap space and luxury tax.

Very nice job Denver, Utah and Golden state, now repeat the that 3 more times (try at least).

Jason L

Congrats on the Friedman (which was my post). You must have copied it in one of your posts and commented on it, while MM and/or SA credited it as your original post. I must say, it's brilliant! :)

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 07, 2011 at 09:11 AM

@MVP888
Funny stuff I noticed that right away because I thought it was a great post when I read it and remembered it was you. Congradulations that was brilliant I must also say.

Posted by: hobbitmage | April 07, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Did you watch the game?

so what your saying kobemvp888, is the Lakers are cruising and these games are meaningless?

Posted by: Lakeshowinphx | April 07, 2011 at 09:29 AM
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Exactly.

They are simply poorly coached. That's what it all comes to; forget about the repeat championships.

Posted by: mambakiller | April 07, 2011 at 10:04 AM

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ROFLMFAO!

Those losses last year came when they had the #1 spot well secured and were resting Bynum and Kobe to get them healthy for the playoffs. In retrospect Kobe probably didn't take off as much time as he should have and forced himself out there for some bad games down the stretch but it all worked out in the end.

The losses this year came when they were making a run to gain the first seed and had everyone in there playing and as close to 100% as you can hope for. It's much less explainable. In some ways it is actually a bit concerning that their wins and losses both seem to come in bunches this year. A losing streak in the playoffs is rewarded with a trip home.

Posted by: Bay to LA | April 07, 2011 at 10:22 AM
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Way to much over analysis. You know little to nothing about what is going on. Read Kevin Ding's article.


PAU GASOL'S GAME NEEDS A DOSE OF KOBE BRYANT AND ANDREW BYNUM'S ATTITUDE
By Hadarii Jones for the Bleacher Report
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/657269-kobe-bryant-andrew-bynum-pau-gasols-game-needs-a-dose-of-their-attitude
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I usually don’t even read most Bleacher Report articles because they are rarely as good as the best posts from bloggers within the blog but Jones is the exception. This is an excellent article that make the point that Pau Gasol needs to dominate his position the way that Kobe and Drew do. Here is an excerpt:
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“During the Lakers current three-game losing streak Gasol has averaged 17 points per game and 8 rebounds which are pretty decent numbers but they fail to tell the whole story.
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The Lakers' opponents in those games were Denver, Utah and Golden State, and in each contest Gasol held a size and skill advantage over his counter part, but he didn't approach those games with that attitude.
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Gasol was pushed around by Nene, Paul Milsap and David Lee respectively, and never once did he seem to have the desire to push back.
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During the Lakers' 95-87 loss to Golden State, ESPN analyst Mark Jackson said the Lakers are sometimes vulnerable because they have a tendency to be soft, but that statement is not entirely true.
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Few people would consider Ron Artest, Derek Fisher, Bryant and Bynum as soft players.
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It would certainly be hard to call Bynum's 13 points and 17 rebounds on 5-of-5 shooting from the field against the Warriors soft, but it's no coincedence that Jackson's remarks were made after a fluffy moments from Gasol.
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In one sequence Gasol had a rebound ripped from his hands by Lee and then committed a foul, and on the Lakers' ensuing possession Gasol's shot was blocked after an extremely soft foray to the rim.
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Gasol will never be confused as a bruiser player, but if he was more aggressive his talent would more than compensate for his lack of physical play in the paint.
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Bryant was seen screaming at various points during the Lakers' loss to the Warriors, and several of his tirades were sent in Gasol's direction.
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It really didn't seem to have much effect though, because Gasol must have already decided that a loss to the Warriors was not enough to get excited about.
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Of course the Lakers' three consecutive losses can not be blamed solely on Gasol, because fatigue and poor point guard defense have played their parts as well.
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But Gasol's performances are illuminated because he is the Lakers' second best player and a legitimate star who is failing to dominate matchups that he should.
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Gasol could learn a few lessons in attitude and approach from Bryant and Bynum, and hopefully Gasol can shed his indifferent mannerisms before the postseason starts.”
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TOM

Looks like the SPURS are the hot ones now and the LAKERS are the cold ones. Cant wait until the SPURS show their dominance on April 12th.

It is sad the the Sacramento Kings are trying to move to Anaheim. At first, I thought the move would be cool because there will be more opportunities to watch NBA basketball within driving distance. But now it just doesn't make sense to me as a fan.

Why should large cities be able to hoard teams? 3 teams in LA just seems like it's too much. Who is going to support the Kings in Anaheim? I haven't read anything about the people of Anaheim giving a crap about whether the Kings come.

Phil Jackson and the Lakers are against the move for obvious reasons. But, does anyone really think that the Kings are going to supplant the Lakers as the 1st sports love of LA? I certainly don't. But the Clippers will definitely be negatively affected. Their fanbase isn't all that strong to begin with, so to have another team in their market would hurt them.

I don't understand what the Maloofs are thinking about with this move. They have a rabid fan base in Sacramento who will support the team no matter what kind of product is out there. I don't think those people deserve that. Sacramento is small town like OKC and Portland, OKC and Portand are doing fine. I just don't see how moving into a watered down fan base could possibly be a good economic decision. Maybe the Maloofs think that they could get some fans in San Diego as well. As a San Diegan, the only way we'll convert to become Kings fans is if they are the San Diego Kings. The Anaheim Kings will not cut it.

Maloof's, the door is open at the 'beautiful' San Diego Sports Arena. We have 3 million+ potential fans, plus potential fans in Tijuana. I'm sure Cox cable would be willing to do a TV deal too. San Diego is bigger than Sacramento. I'll be a King fan(except when they play the Lakers). I'll be happy to watch Tyreke Evans and Demarcus Cousins.

Go Lakers!

Observations from the game:

1.) Shoot 100% from the field and you only get 5 shots? The real crime is that he has dominated the boards and has been the defensive anchor and spark with no reward just looked away when he was battling in the post.

2.) I can’t stand Steve Blake and Shannon Brown! They are both horrible, Blake can’t shoot and Brown is lost and he can’t shoot. Man I would take Farmar and Sasha any day over these two 3rd string jokes.

3.) Pau is soft. Play with some heart and muscle!

4.) Thank God for Bynum because the team that won the last two championships needs him to be fully healthy this go around.

5.) I would like to see Kobe shoot way less and start to average 7+ assists this point forward in his career. I have slowly seen the inevitable decline in his athletic ability over this season. So go ahead and be the “man” for one last season. But please Kobe if you want to catch Bill Russell after this season acknowledge this team is too balanced and we don’t need you to be the “man”!


@LakerTom
I had a chance to get a really good seat yesterday to the game. I decide that I wasn’t going to go and spend the time and money with the performance they had against Utah. They seem disinterested, playing not to get hurt, and just going through the motions; everyone except Bynum and Blake of course, Bynum with his effort and Blake because he just plain sucks every game. I am so happy today that I decided not to go because I had a feeling it was going to be a game like that especially the way the Warriors have been playing of late.

From Kevein Dings article:

He (Phil) acknowledged Wednesday, before the loss to the Warriors, that there is a study that said home teams in Game 7s receive more favorable referee rulings.
Looking at the other top teams in the West, Jackson had this assessment:
"Dallas is one of the better road teams in the game. They're incredible at scoring down the stretch, and their ability to keep the game close and be able to pull it out at the end is kind of noted.
"San Antonio seems to play extremely well at home.
"They did have three losses over the season, maybe four now. They're a very good team on their home floor.
"Road wins, they're not up there at the top, but they're still a good team on the road.
"There's a number of good road teams in our conference, but still it all comes down to the seventh game:

That's a big difference whether it's on your home floor."
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At least Phil recognizes and acknowledges the importance of HCA.

Wow, I guess ouchhh is alive and well on this thread. I am seeing the same Gasol is a rag doll and Gasoft accusations that have been laid to rest by back to back titles for the Los Angeles Lakers. What else do you need from the big European, do you want him to become a different player? Pau has finesse moves on offense and on defense he has greatly improved his effort and dedication. Realizing that his role is to play the most minutes out of the frontcourt he tries to minimize fouls so he can stay in the game and provide consistent rebounding and scoring. So the last three games he looks tired, bored, and/or sloppy it is a long season and sometimes players slump. It was aggravating to see him get stripped in the post by the pony tail Amundson but to judge this whole season or his entire time with the Lakers on the last three games is unfair. Just think of it this way, he could be like Dirk Nowitzki and play guard at power forward.

@MVP - congrats on the Friedman. As far as the last three games I agree they're annoying, but no worries.


@mclyne - Wow...the whole Foo cd...narrowing it down was too tough...lol. Dear Rosemary and Back & Forth are my selections after a quick listen. Nice.

This comment is for ninoy, you're saying that Miami has a better chance of beating L.A.than the Spurs do "YOU'RE CRAZY". Denver has a better chance of beating L.A. than Miami does.

Posted by: Rocky | April 07, 2011 at 11:25 AM

@Rocky
Agree with your whole post except the part about San Diego, the Sports Arena is a joke and more outdated than Arco Arena. Secondly the San Diego metro is like that of Florida's Metros, no one is from there and the sports fan base is horrible.

I thought and was hoping they would move to San Jose, that makes the most sense. A nice ready to go arena with a huge population with money as well as a huge corporate sponsership. Maloofs need to sell the team to Larry Ellison, they are broke jokes that screwed the city of Sacramento. The Warriors wouldn't be effected because they have the best fan base in the NBA. Just my 2 cents!

"Way to much over analysis. You know little to nothing about what is going on. Read Kevin Ding's article.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 07, 2011 at 11:10 AM "

Your reply has a much more caustic tone than is really needed for this but that's fine.

All I said was that the late season slumps of this year and last year really aren't comparable. Last year they had no hope of catching Cleveland and really no chance of losing #1 in the west and were missing Bynum for all of those games and Kobe for several of them. This year they still had something to play for when it occured. That's not to say they can't have an equal or greater turnaround. It's just a different situation.

Maybe you should read over the article as well. Phil says they were going to wait until NEXT week to determine whether they should push hard or rest up and your stance seems to be that the decision to ease off has already been made.

Well, this is a playoff team and as such, they've done their job because obviously, they clinched the division and they're in the playoffs. Of course these regular season losses are infuriating and we can find fault with every player in the roster but let’s wait for the playoffs before really trying to analyze this team's problems because in reality, we have no choice!

Without HCA, I still believe that this team cannot be beat in a series. They have time to make adjustments and the level of play is naturally increased which has nothing to do with the proverbial "switch." It's the playoffs and that "stuff" just happens; it's called competition.

This is a great road team and they can easily steal HCA by winning a game on the road. I just don't see Gasol being soft, lazy and transforming into a useless "wet noodle" as the games progress in the series and I do believe they will utilize the "inside - out" game much more which will catch a lot of teams off guard. By the time they make the adjustments, the opponents will be down a couple of games. Perhaps this whole Lakers "performance" is a "rope-a-dope" and the competition will be caught off guard. It will be fun analyzing the team's performance in the playoffs as only Lakers fans can.

I'm done with the regular season. It was disappointing in the sense that I wanted to see something “special” for Phil’s last season as the Lakers’ head coach. The team sure teased us in the beginning of the season and we were let down toward the end once reality set in that they will not catch Chicago or San Antonio. Now that that’s over, I can hardly wait for the playoffs to begin.


Opponents may not be "shaking like virgins on prom night" right now, but that's all part of the element of surprise! “A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective.” The Art Of War


"Everything about the Lakers is geared toward winning playoff games. It's what they do." J.A. Adande


"Even when we didn’t make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss


"...they're shaking like virgins on prom night... Faithdalakerfan


Go Lakers & In Buss We Trust!!

After believing that there wasn't a switch, after these last games I must accept that really there is a switch.

I understand that the players want to rest and stay healthy. But it is frustrating to watch these games not because of the losses but because of the attitude.

I hope this resting turns into something in the Playoffs.

And Bynum is playing great.

yes, I did watch the game.


did I grab the wrong box score? I do try to double-check. [grin]

NBA4eva,

Thanks for the response. Yes, I do have a case of myopia when it comes to my hometown. haha

Go Lakers!

"After believing that there wasn't a switch, after these last games I must accept that really there is a switch.

I understand that the players want to rest and stay healthy. But it is frustrating to watch these games not because of the losses but because of the attitude.

I hope this resting turns into something in the Playoffs.

And Bynum is playing great.

Posted by: TidalWave | April 07, 2011 at 12:01 PM "

I've always been confused as to what the "rest" really is in a loss. It's one thing if you're resting your starters but if they play their normal minutes, it's not rest just because they had fewer points. Pau and Andrew have both narrowly avoided major injuries in the last few games with Pau's fall in a loss against Denver and Andrew stepping on CJ Miles' foot in a loss against Utah. If the theories are correct and the Lakers had no interest or desire in winning those games, how can an injury in one of those games be justified?

that's just wierd how did the 4/1 box score get into the 4/6 box score.

that'll teach me to do 5 things at once. *sigh* :)

@NBA4EVER ... It was a bummer of a game. The only good part was that my grandson and I had great seats on the lower level between the baskets and we arrived early and got to watch everybody warm up, including Kobe, who seemingly never misses a shot in warm-ups. The Warriors had taped BEAT LA signs to every one of the 20,000 seats in Oracle and we arrived so early we were sitting in a section with nothing but us and a lot of BEAT LA signs. So I moved down a couple of rows to take a photo of my grandson Nick and he had a true Lakers fan moment. As I got ready to snap the picture, Nick picked up the BEAT LA sign from his seat and tore it in half and held it up. What a great picture that turned out to be. I then had a Warriors fan take one of both of us with the torn BEAT LA signs. Before this game, I was 9-0 at Oracle for Lakers games. Anyway, we had a great time although I still believe we can win every game and will continue to believe that. LOL. We’ll definitely have to get the NorCal peeps together to watch some playoff basketball at a central sports bar.
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TOM

what's going on in laker land? is this the beginning of the end? I'll answer that...no. los angeles is suffering from boredom and some fatigue. their dominance after the all star break show's their power, while the 3 game losing streak shows their still human. the next 3 games you'll see their focus up'd. with that said, expect a spurs/celtic finals and then we'll be able to see the beginning of the end.

I don't think it's justifiable for the Lakers to pace now. They're trying to get HC advantage.

kobe's made a comment a couple of weeks ago that he eats first, then pau and bynum is for rebounding and defense. that is just idiotic and not good basketball. Go to your advantage like the showtime lakers. magic could have said i will eat first or kareem but they went to the advantage. that is why pau and bynum and lo don't play with passion sometimes. why rebound if you dont get shots or why run the floor if kobe will jack up a shot. it is not about who eats first. everyone knows kobe is the man by now. delusional laker fans say la needs kobe to jack up plenty shots to free up space for gasol,bynum and lo. that is assinine. gasol is a olympic, euro champion, world champion etc. lo a world champ. bynum a great center with good skills who would be averaging about 20 and 15 on any other team without kobe.


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