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Updated: Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol (bone bruise) sense improvement with sore knees

Gasolnene The Lakers are six games from the playoffs, but nobody cared Monday.

All eyes were on two right knees. Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol both reported feeling better than they did the previous night, when they each walked stiffly around the locker room after the Lakers’ 95-90 loss to Denver on Sunday.

Bynum said he felt no lingering pain after Lamar Odom crashed into his surgically repaired knee. Gasol will still have a precautionary MRI exam but seemed fine.

“I feel actually a little better than I did [Sunday] night, which is a good sign,” Gasol said. “I feel good about it. Obviously I’m not 100% sure but we’ll find out soon enough.”

Gasol had an MRI on his right knee and the Lakers said late Monday afternoon that he has a bone bruise, and is listed as day-to-day.

Gasol was injured when Denver center Nene fouled him early in the third quarter. Gasol’s knee buckled under him after an off-balance landing. Gasol went to the locker room for a few minutes before returning to the game.

“It was scary because of the way I fell and the way I felt,” Gasol said. “It was a scary moment for me but I was able to get up and while I was walking the pain was kind of decreasing, so that’s a good sign too.”

Kobe Bryant couldn't resist prodding Gasol.

"He's fine," Bryant said with light-hearted sarcasm. "Don't baby him."

The Lakers play Utah on Tuesday and then have a two-game trip to Golden State and Portland.

Bynum, for his part, didn't seem concerned at all about his knee, though he offered an assist to the big, bulky brace he always wears.

"I'm all right. I'm good," he said. "It's crazy. I had the brace on. That's what saved it."

-- Mike Bresnahan and Mark Medina

Photo: Lakers forward Pau Gasol sees his shot blocked by Denver's Nene in Sunday's game at Staples Center. Credit:  Mark J. Terrill / Associated Press 

 
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Great news....Indeed!

I still hope Gasol sits out one or two games before the playoffs starts. The Lakers have Smith and Ratliff. Use them!

LRob,

Very astute point regarding the `61 & `62 HOF Celtics.

Meanwhile, it`s an outrage that their three teammates {Gene Guarilia, Al Butler, Jim Loscutoff} are still awaiting induction!

Better to be rested and healthy than the 1 seed.

Kobe Bryant couldn't resist prodding Gasol.
"He's fine," Bryant said with light-hearted sarcasm. "Don't baby him."

Bynum, for his part, didn't seem concerned at all about his knee, though he offered an assist to the big, bulky brace he always wears.
"I'm all right. I'm good," he said. "It's crazy. I had the brace on. That's what saved it."

Great stuff MM - thank you! Cheers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkBUx6Zn6mo
Don't you worry 'bout a thing! (Stevie & BM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4&feature=related
Let's get 'em tomorrow night!

How many injuries has Lamar Odom caused to his fellow Lakers over his career?

A dozen?

Twenty?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I agree that the lakers don't need to push themselves for the hca advantage already. Just be healthy for the playoff run. Hopefully they get NO in the first round - 4 games and over. Then move on to the second round. If standings end up as is, which team would lakers play in the second round?

I think the only team that beat them in 7 is possibly okc. That's a scary team with perkins.

If Lakers get to the finals, then i only worry about the bulls.

Come on Lakers - it's the homestretch - now go kick ass!!!!!


ha ha, was just thinking of that Jon K......memo to L.O., stop hurting your teammates and block out when the game is on the LINE!

Lakers quest for 17 and the parallel with the Celtics becomes multifaceted:

Celtics need 1 good, healthy O'Neal out of 2 O'Neals

Lakers have 2 right knees. (Kobe's right knee is taken as granted?)

2R Knees vs. 2 O'Neals

Shaq looked grotesque yesterday before he got hurt. What a blob. Talking about ending "graciously" ones career.

Bay to LA...

Are you the Regular Season Police and vice versa...

Can't explain how I came to that conclusion...

Might have come to me in a dream while sleeping...lol

Lakershowinphx,

"memo to L.O., stop hurting your teammates and block out when the game is on the LINE!"

Exactly.

I don't remember hearing Sasha or Jordan Farmar ever injuring their fellow Lakers, but it seems like Lamar causes about three minor to severe injuries a year.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Lakershowinphx,

"memo to L.O., stop hurting your teammates and block out when the game is on the LINE!"

Exactly.

I don't remember hearing Sasha or Jordan Farmar ever injuring their fellow Lakers, but it seems like Lamar causes about three minor to severe injuries a year.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!


@ART ... “Do we not judge the posts we read based on the content of the post as opposed to the writers handle?”
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I do but it appears that you do not. If you thought this post was intelligent, we will have to agree to disagree. Not only does the poster know nothing about the Triangle but then digresses into a fictional account of Phil Jackson trying to install Pau Gasol as the team leader which subsequently led to Pau’s poor play earlier in the year, followed by more ouchhh style bashing of Pau. My criticism of the post was based on the ridiculous misconceptions and information in the post. It had little to do with the sobriquet of the poster. Are you the Art from FL or a different Art?
...
“There isn't a "triangle" defense, is there?”
...
In a way, there is because one of the basic tenants behind the design and execution of the Triangle Offense is the recognition that basketball play is continuous and thus offense and defense are inextricably linked. That’s why you often hear Phil refer to defensive problems as having been caused by poor execution of the Triangle Offense. In other words, when you run it properly, players are always in position to defend in transition. If you take early shots or long jumpers rather than running the offense, you create fast breaks for the opposition. That’s Triangle Defense.
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As to whether Phil and the Bulls and Lakers would have won using a different system, we’ll never know. No one is saying the Triangle is the only way to win. What posters like this don’t realize is that the Triangle Offense is just part of how Phil was able to get Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant to play team basketball rather than just becoming selfish players oriented to playing for stats. The Triangle Offense emphasizes team work and ball and player movement but also allows for isolation plays by any player on the team (which is why we have so many players with post-up skills) as well as pick-and-roll plays from multiple places on the floor. To say it had no effect on Phil’s coaching success would be as naive as believing what this poster is trying to sell. It’s just more ouchhh.
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TOM


@THE BULIMIC ½ EMPTY GLASS ... “"I Feel very FULL" Yeah, full of ....
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TOM

The Bulimic 1/2 Empty Glass -Dude...I think you had an interest post, the blog27, and some Lakerholics may not agree will your analysis on the triangle. But it sounds and makes sence to me, POINT WELL MADE.
The HEAT in 5

You really think it's absurd to think that Phil could lead this Lakers team or the Bulls team from the 90's to championships without using the triangle? I just don't think it is. That the triangle is the only thing that gets them over the hump? I just don't see it that way. It is a method that has worked but I don't think it's the only road that leads to that destination.

Posted by: Bay to LA | April 04, 2011 at 03:23 PM
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The fact that this is what Phil Jackson chose for a winning formula from Day 1 and that he has not deviated from it in 20 years of coaching is conclusive proof that it is the foundation which led to 11 championships. Obviously, it is not the ONLY thing he has incorporated, but the triangle offense has held the key to Coach Eleven Rings' success. Remember, Phil builds dynasties, and the centerpieces to those dynasties were: 1) Alpha dog mega-stars (with role players) and 2) a system that the mega-stars could thrive in and feel comfortable with and grow with.

So let me ask you this question. If you had replaced Phil Jackson with Jerry Sloan for ALL of Phil's teams, how many championships would Jerry Sloan have won with his system? I will go out on a limb here and say that the number would NOT have approached 11. And why didn't Pop win more than 4 with those great Spurs teams? Why didn't he even win back-to-back titles? Why did Phil's teams beat his teams 4 out of 5 times?

The discipline that the triangle offense teaches over every other offense not only becomes intertwined with the defensive end, but it's complexities make players think on a much higher level and they become their own coaches on the floor as a result. Yes, this is all part of Phil's "Zen philosophy" that so many fans mock and abhor. Too bad.

Dave W
Most likely the Lakers would play the winner of Portland Dallas is seedings stay the same. The bottom half of the Western Brackett is way easier than the top. Top will have 1,4,5 and 8 seeds. 4 and 5 are Denver and OKC.
Like Kobe said, we are right where we want to be.

@LRob
Sorry for getting back to you so late in the day- work has been taking up all of my time...

Here ya go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDEkRkGK1E

I can't wait to hear the rest of the album!!!

Bulimic great analysis even though I didn't agree with everything that you said. I believe the triangle enables the scrub players to be more effective. Obviously mj,kobe, shaq and pippen could win in any system. If kobe or mj had played for pop or riley i am sure they would have won some rings. but the triangle enhances the skill of a steve kerr, john paxson, dfish, bj etc so when a team also has to deal with the great individual play of mj or kobe it is overwhelming. i would have loved to have seen phil coach a team without the 2 greatest players ever namely mj and kobe. but we will never know.


@KOBEMVP888 ... Great points about the Triangle, Kenny. It just amazes me that a poster who does not understand the Triangle or the advantages of running the system would claim it had no impact on the Phil Jackson winning 11-and-counting NBA championships. Much like claiming that Bill Walsh’s West Coast offense had nothing to do with the Niners winning 5 Super Bowls.
...
There is a huge difference between saying that the Bulls and Lakers in the NBA and the 49ers in the NFL “might” have won with the same coach and players under a different system and claiming that the systems, which were tangible direct reflections of the coach’s styles and philosophies, had nothing or little to do with their success.
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The reality of professional sports is that the coaches who have built systems that embody and emphasize what they believe in and remain constant and true to those systems are the ones who become great in their professions. It’s what separates Phil Jackson from the Van Gundys. To minimize or trivialize the importance of the Triangle or West Coast Offense shows a true lack of understanding of how you build a championship team and coaching resume.
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TOM

"The fact that this is what Phil Jackson chose for a winning formula from Day 1 and that he has not deviated from it in 20 years of coaching is conclusive proof that it is the foundation which led to 11 championships. Obviously, it is not the ONLY thing he has incorporated, but the triangle offense has held the key to Coach Eleven Rings' success. Remember, Phil builds dynasties, and the centerpieces to those dynasties were: 1) Alpha dog mega-stars (with role players) and 2) a system that the mega-stars could thrive in and feel comfortable with and grow with.

So let me ask you this question. If you had replaced Phil Jackson with Jerry Sloan for ALL of Phil's teams, how many championships would Jerry Sloan have won with his system? I will go out on a limb here and say that the number would NOT have approached 11. And why didn't Pop win more than 4 with those great Spurs teams? Why didn't he even win back-to-back titles? Why did Phil's teams beat his teams 4 out of 5 times?

The discipline that the triangle offense teaches over every other offense not only becomes intertwined with the defensive end, but it's complexities make players think on a much higher level and they become their own coaches on the floor as a result. Yes, this is all part of Phil's "Zen philosophy" that so many fans mock and abhor. Too bad.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | April 04, 2011 at 03:43 PM "

I didn't attempt to quantify how many titles the Bulls or Lakers would be winning without the triangle. I just think they still had the talent to win championships even without it. Maybe they would have won fewer, maybe they would have won the same, but to me, the roster is always the most important component of a championship team. Every coach and team in the league is trying to snatch up great players but only a couple are studying the triangle.

Expanding on your Phil Jackson/Jerry Sloan switch, do you think the Jazz have anywhere near 11 titles now if they swap places?

Phil's track record speaks for himself but there's only so much effect a coach has on a team. It's the reason I don't think the Lakers are doomed next year if he does decide to step away. Not only do they have the framework he laid out but they still have what could be the best roster in the game and that's the most important part.

A great NBA coach makes the equivalent of an experienced veteran role player and I think that's a fair parallel. To win a championship, you need one of those guys around but they're not what you build around. Surrounded by a great core, they help get you over the top but if you don't have the personnel, that veteran role player or the great coach isn't getting the trophy for you.

Phil Jackson is going to go down as the all time greatest coach but even he can't make something out of nothing.

if phil had a vince carter or tracy mcgrady as his leading men, do you think his triangle would have produced similar results? Or in the jordan era a barkley or clyde drexler instead of mj? The triangle is great but having mj and then kobe helps a great deal as well.

@ JON K...

Hey buddy, not to talk bad about Jordan Farmar. But let's not forget that avulsion fracture on Kobe's shooting hand, index finger, , , thanks to a bad Farmar pass.

I am just saying...

Mike

since i didn't the game yesterday against nuggets, did anyone think nene's foul on pau was flagrant? after looking at the hi-lights, i thought it looked pretty flagrant to me. what do you guys think AND what did the announcers from L.A. think and also from abc!

"since i didn't the game yesterday against nuggets, did anyone think nene's foul on pau was flagrant? after looking at the hi-lights, i thought it looked pretty flagrant to me. what do you guys think AND what did the announcers from L.A. think and also from abc!

Posted by: Lakeshowinphx | April 04, 2011 at 04:54 PM "

Not at all. It was hard contact but Nene was making a play on the ball. Definitely a foul, definitely a hard foul, but it was a clean foul.

Lamar Odom caused Bynum's first major knee injury, and now again, but hopefully minor this time. As Bynum said, the brace saved his knee.

The second Bynum knee injury was caused by Kobe over-aggressively driving to the basket and crashing into Bynum's knee. In Odom and Kobe's defense, Bynum needs to have more court sense and better reaction time to realize where the bodies are coming from or falling.

Be aware, Drew, and step or jump the bleep out of the way.

The stats dont lie. Kobe took 27 shots and made 10 which is less that 40%. Gasol and Bynum combined took 17 shot and made 11 which is approximately 65%. Any brain dead person should be able to see that the offense is going to struggle under those circumstances.

Time to throttle back just a bit and settle into the #2 seed in the West. Get some much need rest and rehabilitation after going 17-2. We should try to finish above Boston and The Cheat for sure, and hopefully the Bulls will stumble for us. With our upcoming schedule of 6 games in nine days with a couple of back to backs, we need Phill to work his magic! GO LAKERS

I can exhale now wooo;sigh of relieve.The boys are alright now.

Go Lakers!


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