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Ron Artest provides entertaining performance in Lakers' 139-137 triple overtime win over Phoenix Suns

The crowd gasped in frustration, pleading for Lakers forward Ron Artest not to shoot the wide-open three-pointer.

He did anyway.

The shot dropped in the bucket, gave the Lakers a three-point lead in the first overtime Tuesday against the Phoenix Suns and the 18,997 at Staples Center reacted hysterically. In return, Artest blew kisses in the air, soaking in all the adulation.

The image surely represents the never-ending anxieties and fickle relationship Laker fans have with Artest, swinging in frustration over his trigger-happy tendencies and distracted persona to admiration for his fearless mindset and goofball behavior. But the latter image was present all night long in the Lakers' 139-137 triple overtime victory Monday over the Phoenix Suns, a performance that featured Artest scoring seven of his 18 points on seven of 14 shooting and one of his three steals in extra regulation with funny antics along the way.

When he stole the ball from Suns guard Steve Nash in the third overtime, Artest drove for a fast break, finished with a one-handed dunk that gave the Lakers a 135-132 lead with 1:53 remaining and flexed and kissed his biceps afterward. Moments later, Artest pulled up for an off-balance 15-foot fade-away that somehow went in, giving the Lakers a 137-132 edge with 1:08 remaining and prompting him and Lakers guard Kobe Bryant to embrace at center court.

If those plays weren't entertaining enough, Artest's post-game interview surely was. He proclaimed the Lakers game lasted for three hours and nine minutes because he and boxing promoter Bob Arum thought it'd give him a plug to promote a possible Manny Paquiao-Floyd Mayweather fight.

"I knew it was going to happen so half the time I was just on roller skates," Artest said. "Did you see me skating? I was back skating because I knew what was going to happen."

In reality, the Lakers talked frequently during timeouts about complementing Bryant, whose 42 points on 15 of 31 shooting featured an apparently healthier left ankle, sharper rhythm and a mix of both clutch shots and questionable ones. There Artest was to fill that void, much the way he did with a game-winning putback in Game 5 of the Lakers' Western Conference Finals series last season against Phoenix and of course in Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals where he recorded 20 points on seven-of-18 shooting, five steals and held Boston's Paul Pierce to 18 points on a five-of-15 clip. Whether this will prove to be a turning point for Artest is hard to say.

"I don't know," said Lakers Coach Phil Jackson when pressed whether Artest can carry anything from this performance moving forward. "I've never seen any carry-over factor over the years."

That's because Artest's Game 7 heroics in the 2010 NBA Finals followed more inconsistency on both offense and defense. But since the All-Star break, a moment Jackson noticed Artest "recharged," his play has exceeded his season average in points per game (10.35, 8.4), shooting percentage (42.5%, 40.2%) and playing time (32.43, 29). Oh yeah, and let's not forget his defense. It's pretty rare for the Lakers to play through at least three triple overtimes since moving to Los Angeles, the only other times being a 133-124 triple OT loss Dec. 20, 2006 against Charlotte, a 154-153 quadruple overtime loss Jan. 29, 1980, to Cleveland, a 122-117 triple overtime loss Feb. 2, 1969, to San Francisco and a 137-136 triple OT victory on Dec. 8, 1961, against Philadelphia. So it was only fitting Artest would showcase his heroics and antics in another big game.

"He understands the stage we play on," said Lakers forward Lamar Odom of Artest. "He's going to make a great wrestler. He's got the antics and he knows what's going on. He'll hit a guy with a chair. Ron will be one of the best wrestlers ever. His interviews are great and that's what it takes to be one of the champions in wrestling right now. You have to have one of the best interviews."

Artest surely fit that bill before the media afterward. But he backed it up with his play as well.

"I knew what the outcome was so I was relaxed," Artest said. "We talked about it already. It's not a fix. We know what's going to happen. When we say what's going to happen, it happens."

--Mark Medina

mgmedin@gmail.com

 
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With all due respect mud

It's a long season and the personalities, writing styles, opinions, bravado, one-upmanships, and the drawing of blogger battle-lines...is what makes this blog so intriguing.

99% of the posters are Laker fans, that's a given. Whether the presentation is authoritative, humble, pompom waving, arrogant, confrontational, whiny, outrageous, or outlandish....written poorly, elegantly, short one liners, epic novels, or he/said, she/said chronicles... the individual attitude of each blogger is the moving force of this blog.

The fact that Laker fans put themselves out there while understanding there will come ridicule along with praise is inspiring if not intimidating. Some can take it, some can't, and the way we deal with it can be most entertaining.

That's why I love this blog.


Bravo Troll Man

Spoken like a true idiot! :-)

Phil said "I wasn't happy with how we ran our gameplan down the stretch"

Uh......Phil, What was your gameplan down the stretch?

Why does nobody in the media ask good follow up questions?

It was an entertaining game but zero defense besides 1 or 2 steals by fisher and ron. Great performances by kobe and lo. Now yall see without the beast la can't put the suns away? I can't wait until the rough giant comes back to restore order in the lakers team.

More proof that Kobe haters are amongst us..?? While for entertainment value,and the fans who paid the big bucks the triple ot was a real treat.I myself fell asleep,so i didn't see the whole game. Of course I saw Kobe had a nearly t-doub,and his shooting was a hair off of 50%. Some previous posts state it shouldn't have gone so far,o well...My thing is usually even in wins someone comes on here(i.e. priest)abd talks about Kobe's poor shooting bla,bla,bigs shooting 50%,bla bla.Well is Pau is the second best player and one of the talented bigs how does he go 9/25 against the suns front line?To much jump shots??Heck he may have cost Kobe a t-doub. What about fish?? a whole game and a half and O points?? I"m sure most people with sense scrolls past the Kobe hater dribble anyways,but this game is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.See examle below....

It was an entertaining game but zero defense besides 1 or 2 steals by fisher and ron. Great performances by kobe and lo. Now yall see without the beast la can't put the suns away? I can't wait until the rough giant comes back to restore order in the lakers team.

Posted by: island priest | March 23, 2011 at 04:32 AM

While the priest actually is praising Kobe,had he gone 9/25 and Pau had a better %,there would be 50 posts about Kobe shooting too much, not passing bla,bla,bla..Again Fans know who got them where they are and while b-ball is a team game and all/most players are important(unless your theo,smith,and luke)The team rides or dies with KB24...........

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Just got home from the hospital. Will be watching DVR of Lakers v. Suns in a few minutes. But first I stopped by to check the blog. THANK-YOU for that BANDWAGON WELCOME to my GRANDSON!!! You brought a tear to my eye! My first grandson arrived at 9:17am this morning, weighing in at 8lbs, 8oz and measuring 21 inches. Both mommy and baby are healthy. And my son is ecstatic. (I will never be able to describe the feeling of seeing him for the first time holding HIS son in HIS arms... wow... PRICELESS!!!) Thanks again to contributors for Bandwagoning this moment for the LakerMike family! It seems so touching to me that as I say farewell to such a great blog member (Friedman) I turn around and welcome such a special member to the LakerMike family!
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Phil said "I wasn't happy with how we ran our gameplan down the stretch" Uh......Phil, What was your gameplan down the stretch? Why does nobody in the media ask good follow up questions? Posted by: pfunk36 | March 23, 2011 at 03:06 AM
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Preach Pfunk36, Preach my brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To the blogger who caught my error.

yes, Kobe needs 1029. Crap. Next year. :)

Uh, I think these guys might be getting ready for a pretty good playoff run here, folks.


DBDH!

Uh, I think these guys might be getting ready for a pretty good playoff run here, folks. Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | March 23, 2011 at 06:28 AM
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Yes DBDH I tend to believe that you are correct sir! And how are you this day after a Laker Triple overtime victory day?

Wow I am up. Time for work fuzzy headed and all. What a game last night, now time to wake my son who got to stay up late with me. This should be epic. Lakers provided a much need bonding event with a 14 year old last night. All is well.

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Wow I am up. Time for work fuzzy headed and all. What a game last night, now time to wake my son who got to stay up late with me. This should be epic. Lakers provided a much need bonding event with a 14 year old last night. All is well. Posted by: Lake Show | March 23, 2011 at 06:40 AM
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WOW!!! What a nice post to begin the day with. So Lake Show sir you know I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

Oh what an awesome game. I loved it - every OT minute!

Ron's post game ramble was hilarious.

As for those chatting about the lack of defense - so be it. After 13 games of stifling teams and racheting up the defensive focus, the Lakers needed a game like this to let loose. Guys need to let off a little steam and the Suns were just the team to do this.

I am also glad to see how PJ stuck with his starters to finish off the game. Fish was 0-fer but still provided key defensive play. And it was great to see our wiley vets running 60 minutes in. Good thing PJ put them through that tough practice with running drills last week.

My question of the morning is how would the whole OT have changed with AB in the mix? It would have been been very interesting to see PJ's coaching strategy during each OT if AB was playing. But I guess we will have to wait for that card to be played - or we may never know.

Cheers all - PLG

@ mamba24

Brother, I am beat! Sleep deprivation is in full effect. However, the perpetual pounding in my cranial dome was worth it knowing Nashty and friends go home with an "L". The Lakers needed a regular season thriller for a playoff warm up. Right time, right place, right team, right now.

No retreat. No defeat. All 3-peat.

The LOT [Larry O'Brien Trophy] awaits, y'all.

DBDH!

Lake show - totally agree.

It was my niece's 15th birthday yesterday and all she wanted was to go to the Laker's game. Well, she forgot about volleyball practice, a softball game and homework. So, at the start of each OT, I was texting to her with the updates. It made for great Laker bonding but annoyed her that she wasn't at the game.

I think I have to start saving money because next year she won't want a car - she will want to go to her first Laker game......

Cheers - PLG

My question of the morning is how would the whole OT have changed with AB in the mix? It would have been been very interesting to see PJ's coaching strategy during each OT if AB was playing. But I guess we will have to wait for that card to be played - or we may never know. Cheers all - PLG
Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | March 23, 2011 at 06:52 AM
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Good morning PsychedLakerGirl! Now really Psyched you have to know if Andrew had played there would not have been any Freakin OT. LOL!
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@DBDH, Good morning sir! You are Beat, beat you say? Then Get up! Get up RIGHT NOW!!! Get that Large economy size bottle of Dr. Fatty's Lakerholic Tonic and drink two, TWO cups I say.
A triple OT...I'd say you earned it my brother!! Now Go, Go Now!!!

Kobe is the most unbelievable, clutch player in the history of the game period. He refuses to die. He does whatever it takes. Triple over time? Bring it!

Lamar made a stupid move at the end of the first overtime. Didn’t he do that before? Dumb move aside, he was a warrior and really stepped up for not only Bynum being out but Pau not hitting.

I like Ron a lot. Sure he is a bit whacky, but most interesting people are. Man is it nice to have him on our team - especially considering the alternative of playing against him. Been there, done that, and it wasn’t good... ;-) He is having fun and it makes it fun to watch. At his peak, he was as good as anybody. Right now, he is the best lock-down defender in the league. He has found in Kobe someone he can respect. He told Kobe after the loss in Boston that, if he would have him, he would have his back next time. He made good. He gave away that ring for a reason. He knows he is going to win another one!

The bench was outscored 54 to 24. Guards not named Kobe shot 2-14. Steve shot well, but not often. Two of our guards shot bagels. All of the starters, including Fish who was 0-7, were in the positive in +/-. The whole bench was in the negative. The winner of +/- was Kobe at +15. Usually our bench steps up at home and plays well. Last night, not so much…

The starters would have played a lot less if PJ had yanked the bench earlier in the fourth.

What was up with the defense? If you look at all of the highlights, everyone is shooting threes with nobody anywhere near them. It was as if we decided to try and run and gun with them because we needed the exercise. A little defense and half court offense (and our guards not named Kobe hitting a few shots) and it would have been an easy win. Defense?

I don’t like them when they are that exciting. I prefer nice, entertaining, dominating, show time… I look forward to the return of the Beast.

I am a Lakerholic.

What a great game. 4Qs and 3 OTs of good, old fashioned, 70s/80s style high scoring fun. The Suns are always fun, and hard to put away. At the start of Q3 the Suns were missing a lot of 3s, putting up some real scuds, and the Lakers built a big lead. Then, suddenly, the Suns started to hit the same shots they were missing and they closed the gap real fast.


During the regular season, teams don't really adjust much to the Suns' style, even if the coaches tell them to to. It's just one of 82 and the Suns usually get to dictate the pace and style. In the playoffs, when teams get serious about taking the Suns out of ther game and have a real game plan, the Suns are a lot less dangerous.


So we get a hugely entertaining game and the Lakers manage to win two with Drew out. Nice.

It was my niece's 15th birthday yesterday and all she wanted was to go to the Laker's game. Well, she forgot about volleyball practice, a softball game and homework. So, at the start of each OT, I was texting to her with the updates. It made for great Laker bonding but annoyed her that she wasn't at the game. I think I have to start saving money because next year she won't want a car - she will want to go to her first Laker game......Cheers - PLG Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | March 23, 2011 at 06:58 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!! We start the morning off with two wonderful bonding stories!! And as in the first, Psyched yes, I also have to say it to you...OUT FREAKIN STANDING MA'AM!! Carry on and start saving for that car today!! LOL!!

Ron Artest was awarded a 3-pointer in the 2nd quarter when his foot was clearly on the line. Never reviewed. Never discounted. Game should never have gone to overtime and Suns should have won.

Ron Artest was awarded a 3-pointer in the 2nd quarter when his foot was clearly on the line. Never reviewed. Never discounted. Game should never have gone to overtime and Suns should have won.

Posted by: jerbcarter@gmail.com | March 23, 2011 at 07:13 AM

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#BICEPKISS

are you gerald wallace? it's ok man, the portland game is over. maybe next time!

in laker defense, i'm pretty sure there were some no calls in that 4th quarter against the suns, which should have resulted in laker free throws on empty possessions, which therefore translates into more points than the suns in regulation so the game wouldn't have to go to overtime. thoughts?

#BICEPKISS are you gerald wallace? it's ok man, the portland game is over. maybe next time! in laker defense, i'm pretty sure there were some no calls in that 4th quarter against the suns, which should have resulted in laker free throws on empty possessions, which therefore translates into more points than the suns in regulation so the game wouldn't have to go to overtime. thoughts? Posted by: soshibo | March 23, 2011 at 07:19 AM
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No, No thoughts. I think you summed that up quite nicely! Thank you and Carry On Sir!

Soshibo,

Nice way to start the day with love. #BICEPKISS

Lakeshow & PLG,

nice posts.

Yes, I am feeling satisfied this am.

The boys are gettin' it done!

Yes, I am feeling satisfied this am. The boys are gettin' it done! Posted by: hobbitmage | March 23, 2011 at 07:34 AM
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Hobbitmage feeling satisfied…The Hell you say!!! Is this some kind of joke? HobbitMage is never satisfied, he seeks only perfection. He knows with satisfaction comes stagnation and with stagnation comes …Defeat!! HobbitMage has never been defeated in battle ergo he is not satisfied. Now you sir also go to your cabinet right now and get that jar of Dr. Fatty’s Lakerholic tonic and take two, TWO glasses!! Satisfied indeed!!!!!!!!

I don’t like them when they are that exciting. I prefer nice, entertaining, dominating, show time… I look forward to the return of the Beast. I am a Lakerholic. Posted by: Lakerholic | March 23, 2011 at 07:03 AM
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Now that is one hell of a line and you sir are...A true LakerHolic...Truly!!!

The team rides or dies with KB24...........

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | March 23, 2011 at 05:09 AM


Yup, almost died in last year's game 7 title with Kobe if not for Ron Ron

@LakerMike

Serious congratulations to you sir! The only thing that beats being a proud parent is being a proud grandparent.


@PsychedLakerGirl

What a fun double-edged activity. Keep your niece involved while also driving her nuts. Awesome!


I wish I'd watched more of this game. Worked at 8 p.m., then got distracted and didn't have the poker room put the game on until very late into it. Watched the last 2 minutes or so on a big screen in a sports book randomly joining some other people watching, giving them stats on 3 point shooting by Suns and a single player records...

Basketball nerd...

Bad news for the Suns is they have to play tonight while the Lakers will have 2 days rest!!! I am wondering if Andrew Bynum watched the whole game..

The team rides or dies with KB24...........

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | March 23, 2011 at 05:09 AM


Yup, almost died in last year's game 7 title with Kobe if not for Ron Ron

Posted by: downNout in BH | March 23, 2011 at 08:00 AM

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indeed! TEAMS with mental toughness win championships. why do you think they lost in 2004? a team hardly existed. why do you think they lost in 2008? not enough GASOLine, if you know what i mean... (ok ok, there was no drew either)

i thought kobe forced the issue last night, but that's what you have to accept with a stone cold killer on your team. VI said it best... the team will always ride or die with kobe -- the assassinating black mamba, or kobe the facilitating.... uhh.. uhhh... kobe the facilitating black mamba? sorry that sounds horrendous, but you get the point. kobe is a multi-threat and will destroy you any way he sees fit. he's gotta trust teammates to succeed. another trust occurrence took place last night. he had thriller blowin kisses! again!

regardless, even though kobe shoots <30% from the field with 2 min or less remaining in the fourth (don't remember exact numbers, was probably from BSPN), because of his lack of fear, i will take him to close any game on any day of the week. i'd pick mj but that's not a realistic decision =P

@downNout.......Lol yep and you just proved the point of my post. Guess his 15 rebounds didn't help either...So ron ron i guess should have been mvp,nd he also shows up once every five games or so,like last night....

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R.I.P. Elizabeth Taylor

She was the most beautiful actress in my life time.

Yep. We need to make up 2 games on the Bulls. If they lose 3 games we can still only lose 1, and don't see them losing 3 games. MAybe 2. Maybe. That means we need to go undefeated to get home court against the Bulls. Don't think that'll be happening.

Wes

Good Morning Laker Nation,

There's nothing like staying up til the wee hours in the morning EST watching the Lake show, post game, etc...etc.

Very entertaining game. Nash took control and decided not to go away quietly in the night. He played great. But in the end too much Kobe, LO and Ron. It's nice to know the Lakers can win high scoring offensive shoot outs and well as low scoring defensive battles. 11 to go before the playoffs.

What in the world was going on with Shannon? He looked out of sorts all game.

happiness is falling asleep with 38 seconds left in the 2nd overtime with the suns with a 2 point lead and the ball, and reading here that the boys did it again!.pj knows when to do what needs to be done. what a toolkit to have. i can't think of another bench guy in the league that contributes more for his team. yeah i know , lo isn't perfect, but on the other hand there are no religions named after him ,so he dosen't have to be

R.I.P. Elizabeth Taylor She was the most beautiful actress in my life time. posted by: LakerPeace | March 23, 2011 at 08:32 AM
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I didn't know she had passed, thanks LakerPeace! She was also a pretty good Actress winning two Oscars. R.I.P. Elizabeth Taylor!

, lo isn't perfect, but on the other hand there are no religions named after him ,so he dosen't have to be Posted by: lance from da' bronx | March 23, 2011 at 08:35 AM
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Give it to him! Give it to him RIGHT NOW!!
RICK FRIEDMAN(RCOTD) = LANCE FROM DA' BRONX = OUT FREAKIN STANDIN SIR!!!!

What in the world was going on with Shannon? He looked out of sorts all game. Posted by: LRob | March 23, 2011 at 08:35 AM
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Good morning DJ LRob! Oh Shannon was worried about that other Brown: http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/03/23/chris-brown-good-morning-america/
HIT IT CHRIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMWrgQadr2k _ Number One _ Chris Brown.

Great win! Lamar has been awesome all season.

Shannon was off last night, but I rather him have an off night now...than in the playoffs. Shake it off and do better next game!

I just have a question...why is Blake always praised when he scores. He has had the most underwhelming season...not what I expected at all.

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | March 23, 2011 at 08:30 AM

Kobe's contributions came after the fact when he realized that the game was slipping away and he alone was not going to win the title. So he settled down (had no choice) because of Ron and Pau's contribution which were very timely. Last night TNT analyst Barry commented that Kobe was up to his old trick mano-a-mano, taking difficult shots, dueling with Grant Hill and almost cost us the game. Even Chris Webber pointed out that Kobe made a mistake with 11 seconds left he took a jumer, of course made it but nevertheless a tactical error. So he is great but not great enough to win a title on his own, a what a humbling notion!!


I actually went to bed when the Lakers were up by 21 in the 3rd, so to see that the game went to 3 OT's kind of sucks. I like that the Lakers fought it out for the victory, but dang man, hold on to the lead! I did remember that Luke Walton was in there when I went to bed, he had just made a 3 and a good pass consecutively. What happened?

I watched the Fab Five special on ESPN. It was very interesting to see the impact that those guys had. It was also interesting that Chris Webber didn't want any part of it. Webber is still distraught about the TO that he called in the championship game. To me, that's surprising that Webber still holds that demon close. Webber seems so cool as an analyst. After 20 yrs though, talk about it Webb, get it off your chest.

Coach Steve Fisher is the man. He broke barriers with that Fab Five team. He allowed his team to be who they are and recieved a lot of racist backlash for it. Fisher is now doing the same thing at San Diego State, but without the racist backlash. That barrier has been broken down.

Go Lakers!
Go Aztecs! Beat UCONN!!!

@LakerPeace – Loved her in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. R.I.P Elizabeth Taylor.

@Mamba – It’s good to see Chris bouncing back. I’m happy for him.
My selection for today…since it was overtime, overtime and more overtime….

Gladys Knight & The Pips – Save the Overtime For Me (The Pips got a good workout in on this one…lol) 5...4...3...2...1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrntlgPFyE&feature=related

Coach Steve Fisher is the man. He broke barriers with that Fab Five team. He allowed his team to be who they are and recieved a lot of racist backlash for it. Fisher is now doing the same thing at San Diego State, but without the racist backlash. That barrier has been broken down. Posted by: Rocky | March 23, 2011 at 08:54 AM
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Very nice Post my brother! Carry On!

Pfunk said to Trollman: Bravo Troll Man Spoken like a true idiot! :-)

-Although there is a happy face after the statement so it was more a joke but still it is Brutus-liked praising Caesar after stabbing him. lol!

Liz Taylor is already dead, an icon of beauty, grace and talent. She had 8 husbands and yet remained loved by fans around the world.

Mamba24, I wish all bloggers could imitate u in your style in talking to Hobbit or motivating others, how come some have a short fuse on fellow Laker fans? Must we get back again to name calling, chest thumping and raising our own chairs after a hard fought victory. A win is still a W in the record books, let's move on without casting doubts and insulting anybody.

According to LA Times, Matt Barnes would like to stay with the Lakers next season (which is a really good news for the Lakers), but Shannon Brown will more likely leave to test the FA market. If Shannon leaves next year, getting proven backup SG guard for Kobe is really really critical to prolong Kobe's career with the Lakers. I remember when the Lakers got reliable Mychael Thompson to back up Kareem in 80's, it helped Kareem's career so much that he could play until 40's. I hope Kobe can play until 40's too. Then, he could get (at least) 10 rings when he retires.

Rocky,

CWebb probably didn't participate in the documentary because he didn't want to talk about the legal trouble he got into at U-M. He pleaded guilty to lying to the grand jury about taking money from a U-M booster. The school deleted his records from their record books and forfeited their 92 Final Four appearance.

In fairness to Chris I believe he deserves to tell his side of the story on his own terms and timeline.

Best wishes to coach Fisher & the Aztecs. They played a little tight last weekend, but the name of the game is survive and advance. Also, best wishes on the fantasy playoffs...its heating up!

Saw some comments on Shannon being off. He is a streaky shooter and hopefully he is on a hot streak come playoff time. He definitely had a poor game last evening which contributed to the loss of a big lead.

While his streaky shooting is a concern to me, a bigger concern with him is he doesn't seem to "think" when he is out there. He is constantly gambling on defense, missing attempts at steals that result in a breakdown of the team defense. On offense, he seems to be running at an accelerated speed and is a turnover or ill advised shot waiting to happen.

Last year I had high hopes for Shannon. This year I am on the fence. Great to watch his athletic play - which also provides images of a huge upside - but I am not sure if he gets the game well enough to get to another level on a consistent basis.

Hopefully, it is just time and experience on the floor and he will settle in - but for now, he makes me nervous when he is out there.

The Lakers need a scorer on the second unit and Brown is the guy. If he is playing well, the second unit can hold their own against any bench in the league. When he is off and making poor decisions, their bench loses a key element as Odom and Blake are facilitators and not score first players and Barnes gets much of his offense as a secondary option or through sheer hustle. The Laker bench needs more consistency and smart play by Brown.

DKWSFO

Kobe comments on the Lakers-Suns rivalry made me smile....


"We had an opportunity to put them in a little bit of a hole in terms of getting in the playoffs," Bryant said. "And I can't say I didn't enjoy doing that."

A win is still a W in the record books, let's move on without casting doubts and insulting anybody. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2011 at 09:15 AM
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Good Morning Edwin my mentor! How are you this wonderful day after Lakers triple OT victory sir? You know it's funny I just finished writing a poem about a win is a win. Want to see it? NO! Too bad you're going to see it anyway LOL!Just playing with you sir!
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SCROLL ON!
What’s there for the Nation to be mad about? We won of that there can be no doubt
We won and that is all that really matters, all this bickering is just useless chatter
GHF or GHE is a slot they try to put you in, The only slot that matters is the slot for the win
The Nation and the world is now beginning to see, The 3 peat is the Freakin Lakers Destiny.
The 3-peat is almost a foregone conclusion, So there will be those seeking to sow confusion
Don’t let this division break the Nation apart, Come on Lakerholics you got too much heart
If someone’s comment you just don’t feel, There’s this new invention called the scroll wheel
Measure twice and cut once is what they say, In others words don’t react just scroll away
Yes this poem is stupid, no doubt that’s true, But if it’s not pertinent scroll past it too.
Well that’s about all I got to say, I’m done it was fun, hope you didn’t scroll away 


I hope Kobe can play until 40's too. Then, he could get (at least) 10 rings when he retires.

Posted by: LakerPeace | March 23, 2011 at 09:17 AM

Yup for sure as soon as he starts passing the ball and let his team mates share the load.

I don't know what is going on with Shannon and Luke last night. They let the ball game get away with 21 pts. lead. If Brian Shaw would like to take over as head coach, he has these two players as an experiment of how he will lead the Lakers. I think nobody is listening to Brian Shaw. It was reported on Sport News that Chuck Person was effective as an asst. coach, he taught Kobe how to adjust his shooting when his fingers were mangled but in the case of Brian, I have to see something substantive that merits his promotion. Although I will lobby that he should remain as an assistant coach. Go for Coach K as the next head coach with great record worthy of respect by glamor players or the Showtime greats except Byron and Kurt Rambis, the latter are proven to be losers too.

LRob,

You may be right. But I doubt anyone was forcing Webber to tell about his legal troubles. Webber's teammates and friends on the special did say that to this day, Webber hasn't spoken to anyone about that moment. They talk to him, but that subject, understandably, is something that they avoid in conversations.

I'm not concerned about being fair to Chris Webber. I want to know right now! j/k

Go Lakers!
Go Aztecs!

@downNout in BH
Yes Chris Webber did point that out but Kobe did not make a mistake. First off he made the shot so it was not a mistake. If he had miss then we could say that. Kobe mind set was he had an open lane until the defender step in and Kobe figure he was going to get foul so he was shooting to hopefully get a 3 point play. I believe when he hit that shot it put the Lakers up by 4. As for Brent Barry comments he just wanted something to talk about. He don’t know what the team talked about in the time outs. Maybe Phil told Kobe let’s try to end this now it’s all on you. Kobe tried it but his shots just were not falling. Kobe has been doing this his whole career. He has won many of games doing what he do for us. Yes he has lost some but I will take him doing what he do best.
And please tell me what NBA player have won a title on his own. Kobe already know he can’t do it alone but he can win you playoff games on his own. He know if it was not for Fisher, Gasol, Odom, Bynum, Phil (cause Phil trust him in any situation) etc we would not be back 2 back champs right now.

dkwsfo,

I made the comment about Shannon being out of sorts last night. All the concerns you raised were valid. Yesterday he just seemed a step behind/off on everything. Passing up open shots to shoot more difficult jumpers. And he's starting to shoot fading to his left too much. I'm sure one of the coaches will watch video and tell him to square up on his shots. Earlier in the season when he was hot his shots he had good balance on his shots.

I can live with the gambling defense and shaky floor game...but he has to make shots!

NO Mamba, it is not a stupid poem. It has a message in it and for that you are OUT FREAKIN STANDIN SIR!!!!

I can read all your posts and be happy throughout the day. Some people here u read it once - the blood boils, the blood pressure becomes unsettled from head to foot. LMAO!

frmkt,

Sounds like Frye has been listening to you. Here's his comments about playing 50+ minutes....

"I just love the opportunity to be out there," Frye said. "People use that term 'thirsty' and I am super-thirsty all the time."

Great points about Shannon, DKWSFO.

I think last night he was trying to do too much. Needs to play more to his strengths and not do too much. Because that is when he starts to not play smart. Also, most shooters are "streaky" shooters. However, when it is him, odom, and barnes coming off the bench together that is a great combination and everything flows with the scoring etc. I think last night was an off night and like I said rather have that now than during the playoffs.

I still think he has potential (he is only 25)....if the lockout does come this summer I think that would give him valuable time to work with a mentor etc to perfect his all around game.

Side note: I just read the article about him and Barnes and their options for next year. I think they both stay honestly (neither one gave a definitive answer either way)...financially it is a win-win for the Lakers (as Mitch eluded to)...and I would like to see those two (Brown and Barnes) especially work together another year coming off the bench.

Amazing game last night! I had to work, so I just got to see the replay. Talk about high drama! Plenty of great performances on both sides. I thought that PJ showed how serious he is about getting the league-wide 2nd seed. He didn't play any substitutes in the OT's. Pau looked completely gassed towards the end. And he had plenty of company! Helluva lot of minutes. 63 mins. and only 6 turnovers? Unbelievable! Nash had 6 turnovers by himself. Those doggone Suns were like Freddy Krueger...they just wouldn't die. Sure, losing the big lead was a bit disappointing, but when a team can shoot the 3 like the Suns can, anything can happen if they're hot. In the end, the Lakers found a way to add one more to the win column.

If and when PJ retires for good I hope Alvin Gentry is considered for the top post of the Lakers. The man can coach and his cred is high among players. Good game to watch, Kobe showboating and all:) Way to win a close one Artest! Go Lakers!

NO Mamba, it is not a stupid poem. It has a message in it and for that you are OUT FREAKIN STANDIN SIR!!!! I can read all your posts and be happy throughout the day. Some people here u read it once - the blood boils, the blood pressure becomes unsettled from head to foot. LMAO! Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2011 at 09:34 AM
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Thank you sir but…You had to say that cause that’s what mentors do…LOL! Naw, really thanks I appreciate it . And I sir can read all your post and be happy and educated sports wise and history wise at the same time. That’s a pretty good deal…THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Morning Edwin my mentor!

An example of Edwin mentoring his mentee Mamba24 below:


Mamba24, my friend beware of what u print on the blog. Curiosity often kills a cat. you said:
"I mamba24, would myself like to meet Laker Lass and Justanothermambafan one day. If that day ever occurs I will never ask for another thing again. Truly!!"

-remember what u promised to wifey the third time around, no more gallivanting husband from now on and she will be the one and only. They have extra sensory imagination, aha, so it is not only me, the Lakers and more.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 18, 2011 at 06:54 PM

Shannon still doesn't look very comfortable. He looks nervous about what he is supposed to do with the ball and where he is supposed to go after he passes it.

@LRob and Cyber...

Ditto your comments on the Hawks. They definitely seemed to be content with mediocrity.

RIP Miss Elizabeth Taylor. She captivated the world's movie lovers from the time she was a little girl with her captivating beauty and abundant acting skills. Her films will always be a testament to her great talent.

Must we get back again to name calling, chest thumping and raising our own chairs after a hard fought victory. A win is still a W in the record books, let's move on without casting doubts and insulting anybody.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2011 at 09:15 AM

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde:

We can all declare that the hiring of Theo was a garbage. We got two new additions in Blake & Barnes but another recycled trash in Theo and Joe. Well, the Great Luke will again get some minutes, hopefully his slow footwork D could slow down Fernandez & Battum or else another helluva of Luke fun time in the blog.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM


Another thing Mamba24 before I call it a day and make a living, your line where it says: GHF or GHE is a slot they try to put you in, very appropriate for fantasy seekers. All people are GHF and GHE based on particular situation. Can you always be overly optimistic with your retirement stocks at Wall Street? You can lose your lifetime savings if you do that. On the other hand, can you just stick on Money Market and Bonds at all times which equivalent to GHE, then opportunity passes by without enjoying the return of your savings. Therefore, it is based on outlook, experience, needs and wisdom of a particular person. Must we label people in this blog as GHF or GHE based on their posts? Then, you are judging a book by looking at its cover.

Posted by: downNout in BH | March 23, 2011 at 09:47 AM
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PLEASE!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dkwsfo...

Agree with your comments about Shannon. Of particular concern to me is how often he gambles for the steal on defense. It usually results in his getting burned. He's got to maintain more discipline and just stay between his man and the basket.

On the other hand, can you just stick on Money Market and Bonds at all times which equivalent to GHE, then opportunity passes by without enjoying the return of your savings. Therefore, it is based on outlook, experience, needs and wisdom of a particular person. Must we label people in this blog as GHF or GHE based on their posts? Then, you are judging a book by looking at its cover. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2011 at 09:53 AM
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Absolutely right sir. Soooooo, I'm gonna have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!! Carry On!!

What a game! Both teams gave it their all. How about Nash's behind-the back pass to Gortat? Despite the outcome, Suns fans are not feeling too down about the loss.

We in PHX have been burned by the Suns' owner, who has made bad moves aplenty in the past 8 months. As such, Suns fans find themselves pulling for Vince Carter nowadays to make a shot rather than Amare or J-Rich. It's sobering.

See you guys in the playoffs.

"Yes Chris Webber did point that out but Kobe did not make a mistake. First off he made the shot so it was not a mistake. If he had miss then we could say that. Kobe mind set was he had an open lane until the defender step in and Kobe figure he was going to get foul so he was shooting to hopefully get a 3 point play.
Posted by: Marcus | March 23, 2011 at 09:32 AM "

With a 2 point lead and the shot clock off, you never shoot the ball unless you have a dunk or a layup. The focus in that situation should be to secure the ball and burn the clock. He made a poor decision by shooting the ball but because it went in and they won, it doesn't matter.

@DJ LROB, I hope you didn't get the wrong idea with my Chris Brown Post. I'm A Chris Brown fan and I'm pulling for the Brother. And it may be politically incorrect to say this but...I think Rhiana may have been as responsible for what happened as Chris Brown and I'll leave it at that.

"We had an opportunity to put them in a little bit of a hole in terms of getting in the playoffs," Bryant said. "And I can't say I didn't enjoy doing that."

Posted by: LRob | March 23, 2011 at 09:24 AM

Kobe's got a long memory and he really loves dishing out payback. He hasn't forgotten those playoff victories for the Suns in the Smush/Raja Bell days.

Mamba24:

You should call your virtual wife and find out is she is okay:

Please don't anyone email or call me. I'm cancelling or changing all my accounts and numbers because of a stalker. Posted by: justanothermambafan | March 21, 2011 at 07:56

See you guys in the playoffs.

Posted by: BUTLER | March 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM

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"And it may be politically incorrect to say this but...I think Rhiana may have been as responsible for what happened as Chris Brown and I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: mamba24 | March 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM "

I don't know what a woman can do to deserve violence in a relationship.

And please tell me what NBA player have won a title on his own.
Posted by: Marcus | March 23, 2011 at 09:


Kobe wants to be the first one and he tried in last years in title game 7 and in 2008 as well.

BronxLF,

This guy Shannon Brown is diamond in a rough, he needs a lot of basketball advice from the greats like Magic and Norm Nixon. His judgment on the ball are flawed, yet he has all the talents of a superstar guard. I wonder whether he watches tapes of the legends on what they do with the ball on crunch time. He kept on passing when 24 sec about to expire, then go for an impossible shot.

One other comment about Shannon...

In a way, the Lakers are very fortunate to have a player like him. Despite his shortcomings, Shannon is a serviceable and sometimes spectacular player. Due to constantly being in the hunt for rings, the Lakers invariably draft late in the first round where it is hard to come up with an impact player. Combine that with the fact that they have the league's highest payroll, and you can see why it's hard for them to surround their core group with good role players. As long as Shannon fills his role and doesn't step out of character, he can have a very positive impact on the team.

@BUTLER, Where in the hell have you been my brother? No reason to be embarassed, you have a quite nice team there in Phoenix. They are no Freakin LA Lakers but then, what team is? Even after trading away some good assets your team is still playoff bound. Be proud Butler, PROUD!!! Get some Swagger in your step sir. Your team got the Lakers ready for the Finals last year so...gulp i guess in a way we should be thanking you. I wish your Suns a nice little run and Butler believe it or not I hope one day the Suns win a Ring for Butler!!! Carry on sir you're a class act.

Posted by: mamba24 | March 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Very interesting comments. Perhaps you should follow your mentor Edwin's advice below:

Mamba24, my friend beware of what u print on the blog.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 18, 2011 at 06:54 PM

@downNout..
rewatch the finals,gasol couldn't buy a basket either,again proving my point just like last night for a pf btw.I am not bashing pau but just validating my point about the Kobe bashing.Btw who cares about what bret or Webber says.They may have some points but are haters also,they got there asses handed to them by Kobe enough times.I don't know how you and others can take most of what these announcers say without them being some kind of byass or against LA/Kobe..
Then again a lot of so-called fans bash kobe all the time.I know,I know its the name on the front,not the back..Lol..
MVP's are given out for the whole finals,not one game performances.Ask ray allen,pierce,lebron etc...

BTW I can't remeber Kobe going 0/whatever or 2/20 etc.. check pierce for that and allen also(record setting 3's one game,and bricks the next) at least Kobe compensated for jis bad fg%....

Posted by: downNout in BH | March 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM
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Thank you for your concern. Your point?

Posted by: downNout in BH | March 23, 2011 at 10:20 AM
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You know I'm touched, touched I say that you are so concerned about Mamba24. Why one would almost think you wanted to be Mamba24...ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BronxLF and Edwin,

Great points about Shannon and I totally agree with you both.

With some great mentoring (Magic-esp with the MSU connection, Norm etc) Brown will be very very good as he matures and gets older...I think this is def something that he will/Lakers will encourage during the off season. He is still only 25 and has a long way to go...and from stuff the team says he is very humble and just wants to get better, be a good teammate etc.


"@BUTLER, Where in the hell have you been my brother? No reason to be embarassed, you have a quite nice team there in Phoenix. They are no Freakin LA Lakers but then, what team is? Even after trading away some good assets your team is still playoff bound. Be proud Butler, PROUD!!! Get some Swagger in your step sir. Your team got the Lakers ready for the Finals last year so...gulp i guess in a way we should be thanking you. I wish your Suns a nice little run and Butler believe it or not I hope one day the Suns win a Ring for Butler!!! Carry on sir you're a class act.

Posted by: mamba24 | March 23, 2011 at 10:18 AM"

Thanks Mamba! These PHX-LA games are almost always very good games ain't they? Yes one day we long-suffering Suns fans hope to have a ring of our own...in my lifetime would be a bonus!

As always, appreciate your hospitality. Last night's game made both of us proud.

I am a Laker fan from way back. But I have to ask this one question:
How in the world did Mark Cuban let Steve Nash go?

That was worse than the Celtics trading Kendrick Perkins.
Can you imagine if Nask played for the Lakers?

They may have some points but are haters also,they got there asses handed to them by Kobe enough times.I

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | March 23, 2011 at 10:23 AM

I get it, anyone who makes a constructive comment on Kobe is deemed a hater. Now this is a simpleton approach to over coming any objections, end of discussion. Then Phil Jackson also should be tossed in the "hater" or "troll" bucket when he commented that Kobe has a tendency to dominate the ball (hog the ball) when the game itself is a team sport. And I understand your point of view on Kobe because as a die hard Kobe fan (lover) you have the rose color glasses on.

Listen as the leader of this blog my opinions are invaluable. I prasie kobe but I can't worship him like some of yall. Read what i say carefully. Unlike me Kobe is not a perfect basketball player or person. I watched the game from the second half and it was very entertaining but the defense was poor. But persons still choose to criticise the Priest. Does homesty and integrity have no value on this blog? If kobe did shoot 7 for 24 I would be the first to be on him like white on rice or stink on... He had a great game and I congratulated him. But one thing you can appreciate is that the Priest is brutally honest. Mamba24 please stop using the Lord's name in vain.

As always, appreciate your hospitality. Last night's game made both of us proud. Posted by: BUTLER | March 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM
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You're always welcome my brother and yes last nights game was a game any Lakers or Suns Fan could be proud of. It was what basketball is all about sir.

Island Priest24 you are absolutely right sir I have to stop taking the Lords name in vain and for that I apologize. But I would just like to say, I feel a hell of a lot better now that I know that Island Priest24 is the leader of this blog. I have been having terrible nightmares wondering who, WHO is the leader of the Blog. But now I know...It is Island Priest24 and I feel a renewed pep in my step now. My chest is beginning to swell with pride and I just want to shout to the world...ISLAND PRIEST24 IS THE LEADER OF THE LAKERS BLOG WORLD!! Thank you Priest24 for taking this thankless task in your capable hands my brother!!

Listen Kobe is one of the greatest players we have ever seen play the game. We are watching history unfold before our eyes. I watched jerry rice and emmitt smith two of the best in their respective positions ever. Kobe is in the same class but just that mj was better. But soon as i mention that mj was better shared by the entire world the priest is attacked by delusional fans. See kobe has one eye on the present and the other on his place in history. At times he plays slfish ball. Now the Priest didn't say that PJ and pau said that. In memphis last year kobe scored over 50 points to move ahead of someone on the all time scoring list but la lost the game. Pau said he was glad kobe got the record and hopefully now LA can concentrate on playing winning basketball.

"You're always welcome my brother and yes last nights game was a game any Lakers or Suns Fan could be proud of. It was what basketball is all about sir."

Well said mamba! We'll be remembering this game for years to come.

@downNout..Lol whatever man...you still didn't answer anything I said in regards to gasol etc. So once again you proved my point.On your comments on phil he did write a book dissing Kobe,did he not? Guess kobe's a bigger guy than you or I(metaphorically since i don't know if you are a guy),but in the end winning is all that matters right?,right? So when you dish out constructive criticism again I ask you what about the rest of the team????Answer what is asked or don't answer at all....

mamba24 you are my vp of the lakers bandwagon. carry on. I'm the priest a "mud" slinging, "hobbit" bashing, "sean" beating and pie eating lakers champ. Speaking of sean, he made the mistake of challenging the Priest in an intellectual debate. Ha ha ha ha ha. Big mistake because it was a huge mismatch in my favor. Thats is like one of you guys challenging mike tyson even at his age to a fist fight. Of course sean ran away like a little princess and haven't been heard from again.

Sorry I wasn't able to make the game chat last night - I was at the game and loving every minute of it! Another instant classic, not just from Kobe and LO, but especially from Thriller! Even though I wince in pained anticipation every time Artest leads a fast break - more often than not, this guy delivers the goods. Last night was no exception. Had I been in the chat with you guys, and especially justa, I would've been doing this a lot...

"It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark
Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart
You try to scream but terror takes the sound before you make it
You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes
You're paralyzed

'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about strike"

island priest says:

"Kobe is in the same class but just that mj was better."

This is an endless debate, but I'd say that since MJ earned titles despite not having the best center in the league at the time, that his are more impressive. Scottie Pippen was there of course, but MJ did not rely on a 7-footer to win (Shaq - Gasol) while playing the triangle under the same coach.

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | March 23, 2011 at 10:55 AM

I thought the whole discussion was focused on Kobe. It starts with Kobe and when and if he plays within the team concept and what coaches asks of him then rest of the team falls in its place, no doubts.

Well said mamba! We'll be remembering this game for years to come.

Posted by: BUTLER | March 23, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Thats all you can remember. These close losses and wins here and there. Too bad you dont have any Championships to remember!!

 
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