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Portland's second-chance points provide plenty of examples of why the Lakers didn't properly adjust without Andrew Bynum

Leaving Andrew Bynum with the task of tightening up the Lakers' defensive rotations and securing rebounds has left the young center empowered.

No longer did he feel his value through the prism of points, field-goal attempts and minutes. No longer did he have to keep justifying his worth with all the injuries and prolonged recovery periods, leaving some wondering if his size and length would be even worth it. And no longer did Bynum have to wonder how to fit within an offense that features plenty of firepower from Kobe Bryant, mid-range jumpers from Pau Gasol and versatility from Lamar Odom.

Bynum's average of 13 rebounds and 2.58 blocks per game since the All-Star break filled a hefty role that is valued by the Lakers, but it also left a void once he drew a league-imposed two-game suspension for committing a flagrant foul type 2 in the Lakers' 106-98 victory Friday over Minnesota. That's why it shouldn't be too surprising the Lakers missed Bynum's presence in their 84-80 victory Sunday over Portland, needing late-game heroics from Bryant and Derek Fisher to overshadow the Trail Blazers' 45-35 rebounding advantage and 21 second-chance points. That's why, even if the Lakers face an undermanned Suns team Tuesday at Staples Center, Lakers Coach Phil Jackson doesn't feel much at ease, considering Phoenix made 22 three-pointers the last time it was at Staples Center, making it necessary to close out more on the perimeter instead of remaining close to the basket for rebounds.

Bynum's absence also exposed a mindset the Lakers had during his surge that they hope to quickly correct against Phoenix.

"Andrew takes up so much space and he's so big that sometimes with him on the court we cannot do the little things like box out and make the right rotations," Odom said. "He bails us out with his size."

Below the jump, I explain in detail how Portland exposed that weakness on its 21 second-chance points

8:47-8:44, First quarter -- Even though the box score credits the Blazers getting an offensive rebound after Fisher blocked Andre Miller when he drove into the lane, Portland retained possession because the ball went out of bounds. So this had little to do with the Lakers' unwillingness to crash the glass so much as it ws Gasol  giving Nicolas Batum open space to hit a 17-foot jumper.

3:10-2:47, first quarter -- After Gasol missed a right hook, Batum grabs the rebound over Matt Barnes and pushes the ball in transition. Fisher and Bryant    get back on defense to shut off the gaps in the perimeter, while Gasol raced to cover the paint. Gasol gets back in time to help stop Wesley Matthews, who drove past Bryant with a single dribble. Gasol blocks Matthews' up-and-under layup, but he allows Matthews to grab the loose ball. Wesley then throws a bounce pass to LaMarcus Aldridge, who nailed a five-foot jumper over Gasol.

10:19-10:07, second quarter -- After Rudy Fernandez rolled off Andre Miller's screen set on Bryant, he fought through it and contested Fernandez's three-pointer on the far side. Though Derrick Caracter boxed out Marcus Camby, he tipped the ball out up top to Miller. Barnes' deflection from Miller's pass to Brandon Roy went out of bounds. But from the inbounds pass, Camby threw a bounce pass inside to Roy, as Barnes was sealed off.

9:29-9:27, second quarter -- Caracter picked up Roy on a screen and roll and forced him to commit an off-balance jumper on the nearside perimeter. Too bad neither Odom, Steve Blake or Shannon Brown didn't put a body when they were in the paint on Camby, who tipped in the missed shot, cutting the Lakers' lead to 31-24.

8:59-8:57, second quarter -- Both Caracter and Brown sealed off Roy in the far corner, a miscalculation after Camby set a screen on Brown. That left Camby open to receive an entry pass as he drove baseline. Odom cut him off at the rack, but no one shut off Gerald Wallace from getting the offensive putback, closing the gap to 31-26.

4:50-4:45, second quarter -- After Roy hoisted a three-pointer from the far side, Odom appeared in a position to box Camby out. Instead Odom went toward the basket to grab the rebound. Meanwhile, Gasol ran toward the basket from the far end after the shot. With neither Gasol nor Odom putting a body on Camby, he slid through both of them to grab the loose ball. He then kicked it out to Ferndandez, whose three-pointer sliced the Lakers' edge to 39-38.

9:47-9:30, third quarter -- After Matthews fired up a three-pointer, Wallace put a body on Gasol with very little resistance. The ball hit off the backboard and into Brown's hands, but Wallace wrapped his body around him. During this whole time, Gasol simply stood and watched. The referees ruled a jump ball, with Wallace winning the tip. Aldridge then posted up on Gasol for a turnaround jumper, increasing Portland's lead to 53-44.

7:48-7:33, fourth quarter -- Portland properly exposed the Lakers' mismatches, choosing to delay switching back off screen-and-rolls so a man wouldn't be left unmarked. Odom closed out on Ferndandez's three-pointer, while Steve Blake was left to box out Camby. He clearly went over-the-back to get the rebound over Blake, but no whistles were called. After Roy and Fernandez ran a screen-and-roll, Odom stayed in the paint to get the rebound. But that left Fernandez open to sink in the trey, widening the Blazers' lead to 71-66.

5:28-5:20, fourth quarter -- After Fernandez found him open on the far perimeter, Batum's three-pointer was immediately blocked by Ron Artest. But Camby immediately grabbed the loose ball in place of Odom. The Lakers were set in their defensive rotations until Aldridge ran a pick and roll with Miller. Fisher cut toward the paint to deny Fernandez penetration along the baseline and Miller a drive to the basket. Gasol picked up Miller. And Bryant appeared too busy directing the defense to pick up Aldridge near the top of the key. That enabled Aldridge to nail a 20-foot jumper to give Portland a 74-68 lead.

--Mark Medina

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Put in Theo Ratliff!!!!

No, wait, I meant PUT IN DEREK CARACTER!!!

I mean, umm...

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Off subject, but I just saw that NBA-TV "True NBA" segment concerning B. Shaw. That convinced me that Brian Shaw can handle replacing Phil. Brian Shaw has overcome the loss of his parents and sister and turned it into a positive by rearing his sister's daughter as his own. He was a tough and fearless player. As Chris Webber said on that program, "He's a man's man". I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job.

I really enjoyed Melissa's interviews with Shannon and Luke. It's much more fun to hear answers to offbeat questions other than, "How are you guys preparing for tonight's matchup?" or "What could you guys have done better to win that game?"

Keep em comin'!

I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job. Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 22, 2011 at 02:12 PM
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OK, on your recommendation, I'll second that vote of confidence!!!!

Bynum spoiled the whole team with his rampaging rebounding streak. With him on the court, the other team was one and done. Pau, in particular, took a breather with only 5 rebounds in 3 straight games. Ron Artest only had 2 rebounds in the Portland game as well. And, while I'll give Ron a bit of a pass because his role of guarding perimeter players often takes him away from the basket, 2 is low. The team as a whole needs to rebound the ball after a stop. No rebounds, no rings!

@PG&R
Great post on Lamar! I love Lamar and think he is as important to the Laker’s success as LakerTom thinks Bynum is to our success. He is my favorite player on the team both on and off the court. I for one thought the marriage to Kloe was not going to be good as I can’t stand that family and their need to always be in the spotlight. I can happily say that early on in the season I saw it was the complete opposite; he has become more of a mature and confident man at ease with himself and his role on our team and in life. How can you not love Lamar Odom?

@Lrob
You brought up some good points around the NBA that I have been thinking about. What happened to Collison? He has been underwhelming and not quite the steal that I thought he was going to be for Indiana. I do agree with LakerTom that he would be a great fit for our team considering his D and he wouldn’t be asked to do much offensively on our team. I just thought he was going to have a break-out season this year.

Why doesn’t or hasn’t Pop played Splitter more this year? It’s not like he is a developing young player, he has been Europe’s best player similar to Gasol, Scola, and Manu. Like Bynum will continue our great fortune, Splitter will continue San Antonio’s great fortune long after Duncan is gone guarantee it.

As far as the Nuggets, I for one would declare them the winners early on. I would normally say you always trade 4 quarters for a dollar, except I think the Knicks traded an Italian Lira, a Ruble, two solid fifty-cent pieces and some change for a winkled dollar bill that needs to be ironed out in order to fit into the machine and another old fifty-cent piece that may work in the machine and some pennies. With the new CBA limiting exceptions and hardening the cap this era of Big 3’s is going to back fire on New York and Miami. What can you add that you need with less flexibility? I know Denver won in the short term (record, money, flexibility), and I’m pretty sure with the new CBA they definitely will be better off in the long term.


All these threads all day is annoying! It's way too much and makes you not want to post as often unless you have no job or life outside of the LATimes blog!

You know 888, I made the mistake of placing all eggs in one basket once too many times. I've learned my lesson. For sure I won't be making that mistake again, I'll be keeping a foothold more than just here. Like the plague or the high tide, the trolls roll through and I've learned sometimes it's best to let the vermin have their roam of the place. Took me a while to learn that, but it's finally sunk into the noggin.

I've been busy with this endless fixer upper which is starting to drag on. Also starting to work on something basketball related, not sure what it is going to evolve into but it is starting to take up a lot of time too. On top of things a mom visit is just around the corner... ugh! lol =P

Cool though that the trolls that had a sole-purpose to run you off from here aren't getting their way.


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

bronxlakerfan: That was a great segment on Brian Shaw. I first learned about what happened to Shaw in a LA Times newspaper article from 11-12 years ago or so. Tragedies like that really define a person, the class and dignity that Shaw handled such a tremendous loss like that shows he has great character. Definitely, it has made him a much stronger person, running a basketball team is peas and carrots compared to what he's gone through.

Definitely he would get my vote as future Laker head coach! For all the other reasons, but can't overlook his strength gained in coping with his tragedies.

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MM: Would it be possible to find and reprint that tremendous LA Times article about Brian Shaw from around '98 or '99 or so?

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mamba24: I'll third the motion!


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!

MM: Would it be possible to find and reprint that tremendous LA Times article about Brian Shaw from around '98 or '99 or so?

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mamba24: I'll third the motion!


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | March 22, 2011 at 02:31 PM

I was just telling a co-worker about that article and what a great person B Shaw was just the other day when we were talking about UCSB. It would be great if we could get it re-posted on the blog. Thanks MM


@CCX ... I’m still sky high about my grandson’s team winning the championship and my sharing coach of the year honors. The league gave each kid a championship trophy while I gave out Kobe Awards to each of the kids for MVP’s , best shooter, best rebounder, etc. I also gave the kids report cards on their season and skills with specific things to work on to get ready for next season. I think we have a chance to four-peat as my grandson enters middle school next year. Gotta think GHF.
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Maybe the Pacers will put Collison on the market and the Lakers can steal him for Luke et al. LOL. I do think the kid would be perfect for the Lakers. Love his long arms and defensive back coverage. While I’ve been down on Blake, maybe his recently improved play will prove me wrong and he will be able to be a big contributor. Looks for sure like Fish still has another playoff run in him.
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As for Drew, you gotta believe opposing players will be even more hesitant now to attack the rim. They not only risk eating leather but also possibly getting injured. While I don’t want Drew to get a rep as a bully, I don’t mind him taking a hard foul to deter players from entering the paint. He just needs to make sure he goes for the ball when he does take those hard fouls. INTIMIDATION !!!!
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@MM.... What a great analysis of the Lakers defense sans Drew. You continue to amaze me with the detailed analyses you make of various Lakers players and performances. Great job.
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TOM


@Mamba24...

wassup, my brother! You know it's coming...a Brian Shaw as the next Laker head coach bandwagon! What say you?

Brian Shaw for the next coach!! So says Cyber, so says Bronx, so says Mamba, so says NBA4EVER...
SO SAY WE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Mamba24

Warm-up the wagon, my bags have been packed and I'm ready to jump on!


@NorCal Lakers Bloggers
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(01) LakerTom
(02) iheartkb24
(03) Jay Jay
(04) DKWSFO
(05) Lakerfan in Cupertino
(06) LakerFaninCowTown
(07) AndTheJellosJigglin
(08) OUTLAW
(09) NBA4ever
(10) Hobbitmage
(11) Psyched Laker Girl
(12) LakerJ
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I am planning on attending the April 6 game against the Lakers and have been looking for seats. Rose (iheartkb24) and I have found two options. Let us know if you are interested in either option:
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(1) There is a chance to purchase up to 16 tickets @ $225 each for Luxury Suite M-30. This could be very cool if we end up with a good sized group. I am not sure where the M-30 luxury box is but all the boxes from memory are between the lower and upper levels between the baskets.
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(2) The Warriors have a special for lower level corner seats @ $150 each (normally $220) that includes the Lakers game as well as the Raptors game this Friday. We can buy a bunch of these tickets together also. Not sure of exact sections but I’ve sat in this area before and it is good.
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If you are interested in joining the group, please ask MM for my and Rose’s email address and then let us know. We plan to make a final decision on the tickets this week so get in touch with us right away if you are interested. Should be a great game and we may be in the midst of one of the greatest late season runs in Lakers history.
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TOM

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BRIAN SHAW FOR THE NEXT LAKERS COACH - BANDWAGON
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(01) BRONXLAKERFAN - OWNER - Off subject, but I just saw that NBA-TV "True NBA" segment concerning B. Shaw. That convinced me that Brian Shaw can handle replacing Phil. Brian Shaw has overcome the loss of his parents and sister and turned it into a positive by rearing his sister's daughter as his own. He was a tough and fearless player. As Chris Webber said on that program, "He's a man's man". I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - OK, on your recommendation, I'll second that vote of confidence!!!!
(03) CYBERCOSMIX - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'll third the motion!
(04) NBA4EVER - SECURITY - I was just telling a co-worker about that article and what a great person B Shaw was just the other day when we were talking about UCSB. It would be great if we could get it re-posted on the blog. Thanks MM

*___________________________________________________________________*
BRIAN SHAW FOR THE NEXT LAKERS COACH - BANDWAGON
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(01) BRONXLAKERFAN - OWNER - Off subject, but I just saw that NBA-TV "True NBA" segment concerning B. Shaw. That convinced me that Brian Shaw can handle replacing Phil. Brian Shaw has overcome the loss of his parents and sister and turned it into a positive by rearing his sister's daughter as his own. He was a tough and fearless player. As Chris Webber said on that program, "He's a man's man". I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - OK, on your recommendation, I'll second that vote of confidence!!!!
(03) CYBERCOSMIX - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'll third the motion!
(04) NBA4EVER - SECURITY - I was just telling a co-worker about that article and what a great person B Shaw was just the other day when we were talking about UCSB. It would be great if we could get it re-posted on the blog. Warm-up the wagon, my bags have been packed and I'm ready to jump on!


Around the league...

Looks like Duncan's ankle injury may keep him out of commission for a couple of weeks at minimum...

http://tinyurl.com/5wdfjny

And Rudy Gay's season is over due to impending shoulder surgery. A big blow to Memphis....

http://tinyurl.com/63f8rxh

And Michael Redd is set to return from a series of devastating knee injuries...Nice guy, good story. I wish him well, except against the Lakers of course!

http://tinyurl.com/5tbc8du


@MAMBA24... Since Fish won’t retire soon enough, put me on the BShaw Bandwagon. This team needs to maintain the same Triangle Offense and coaching staff sans Phil. The players, especially Kobe, respect Brian and he is not afraid to criticize even Kobe. Brian Shaw, Lakers head coach.
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TOM

Mamba24....You Da Man!!!

And, my parting words as I prepare for dinner here in NYC...SUCK THE FUNS!!!

Hello,

Police here; the PSP see it's about to be World War 4. No matter, the PSP never backs down but I can see some 'people' are back and first thing they and their 'cyber lapdog' do is start taking shots at the PSP. MM the PSP hope you are taking note so that when the PSP fires back, it will be on record that the first punch was not thrown by your's truly. A few snippets below :-) :

but be SURE the stuff he went through the last time, the attacks, the posters singling him, the jerks taking up names after things he said
Posted by: CyberCosmiX | March 22, 2011 at 01:10 PM

have your alter ego PSP show up for more nothingness which no one finds funny anyway. "His" posts are devoid of any socially redeeming value whatsoever, so if "he" wants to embarrass "himself" by peppering this blog with that empty BS, let him enjoy "himself."
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 01:48 PM

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

Practice Season Police,

I don't mind your posts and find them to be humorous sometimes.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Practice Season Police | March 22, 2011 at 03:13 PM

Good to see the Robin Hood of the LA times blog back to protect the bloggers from the tyrannical, arrogant posters who think their s...t no stinky!!
God is great and works in a mysterious ways. Long live the king of oppressed and the fighter against evils of this world hiding behind the facade!!

Long live PSP!! Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!Long live PSP!!

Hip Hip hurray!!

cyber lapdog ---------Yes there are plenty of these mutts wagging their tales and very amusing!!

@MM - nice recap. I think the biggest problem was lack of team rebounding. Like you said they became too dependent on Drew grabbing 15 boards.

@frmkt – keeping the Latin heat on….nice. So what’s the name of that one?

@Triangular – Enjoyed the Kenton. Especially the ending crescendo!

@BronxLF – Thanks for the insight on the BShaw piece. I Tivo’d it for viewing later. I agree with you on hiring him. Tough and fair with an exceptional bball mind. I think it’s pretty much a done deal already. This team is not going to start running a new system mid-stream, it just doesn’t make sense.

@NBA4ever – Good points on the CBA affecting the Big 3 concept. But that could also adversely affect the Lakers. That Splitter situation is puzzling. I'll have to do a little research on that one.

Glad to see that the LAT and the writer are back in "Bash Gasol" mode.

PSP is one of my favorite posters. When I'm driving and I see a police officer, I get nervous and check my speedometer and try to avoid eye contact, but when I see the Practice Season Police, I smile and wave.

@LRob

I don't think the new CBA will adversely affect the Lakers for a number of reasons. They will not impliment a hard cap or a retro-active cap. I think they will try to eliminate the exceptions for sure and they may make trades less flexible. They do not want to hurt their big market teams, they want to make it easier for small market teams to keep their young players and level the playing field. The best solution would be to increase revenue sharing based on local tv contracts. Buss has already said he'd give up money for championships! What an awesome owner!!!!

Posted by: Bay to LA | March 22, 2011 at 03:43 PM

PSP for LAT moderator job!!PSP for LAT moderator job!!PSP for LAT moderator job!!PSP for LAT moderator job!!PSP for LAT moderator job!!
PSP for LAT moderator job!!PSP for LAT moderator job!!

I am going to have to discuss this with the big boss of LAT.


Hip Hip hurray!!

Let the games begin.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 01:48 PM

Once bitten twice shy!!

Just curious here, weren't you the one who left this blog in a huff over an empty BS? And now that your little ego has had time to heal and his faithful lapdogs cheering on the return of their arrogant friend.

Of course I do not expect MM to banish me, just because I question a person who insists on engaging in petty debates, especially after taking a can of whoops azz.

PSP

I am enjoying the fact that my mere presence brings all these GHEs out of the woodworks. Interestingly, most of them have unrecognizable handles. Compared to these insulting dee-bags, my sh-t couldn't possibly stink because it's smell is indiscernible around the stench of those vile bloggers.

But we are here to talk basketball, are we not? Considering that you have so obnoxiously chosen to make "Practice Season" a part of your handle, isn't it time for you to educate us on the meaning of the term?

I would ask that you define its meaning and tell us whether or not the meaning of that term applies to this 2010-11 Lakers regular season one way or the other. Please be specific and give examples.

Considering that I introduced the concept to this forum, I will be the sole judge of your response and you will be graded accordingly. Considering that you ARE the Practice Season Police, don't you think you OWE it to us to explain what the "Practice Season" means? That's only fair, isn't it? So rather than mocking and belittling me AND the Practice Season (and starting WWIV), we can use it as the educational tool which it is designed for, which is to discuss Lakers basketball.

How about it, PSP? Do you think you can pass this easy test?

@LRob...

I know you are heavy into music. We lost a great singer yesterday when Loleata Holloway passed at 64, apparently due to heart disese. I spent many a night dancing to her music and great live performances at the Paradise Garage, a club in NYC's Greenich Villge, back in the day. May she rest in peace.

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/loleatta-holloway-p18285/biography

My favorite song by Miss Lolloway....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4-l1UYhas

PSP is one of my favorite posters.

Posted by: Bay to LA | March 22, 2011 at 03:43 PM

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How shocking.

@MAMBA24... , put me on the BShaw Bandwagon he will make a great coach

I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job. Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 22, 2011 at 02:12 PM
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OK, on your recommendation, I'll second that vote of confidence!!!!

Posted by: mamba24 | March 22, 2011 at 02:17 PM

I would definitely jump on that wagon...BShaw is well respected, has a good demeanor and would make a great coach for the Laker's. Blood runs deep and we should keep things in house for those that deserve and have earned.

888, CCX ---Let it go, don't feed it or it will never go away.

PSP, DnOBH ----Let it go, don't pick at it or it will never heal.

Live, let live, dont' jab, don't poke, don't prod, and ignore one anther's presence and save everyone else's scroll wheels. It's not like you share a common fence or your mailboxes are next to each other.

Please! I'll take it as a personal favor if combat between the two camps didn't start up again. Tell you what, if you really feel the need to have literary combat someplace, go to my weekend warrior blog at www.weekendwarrior.20x.cc\Blog and comment in the post set up for Laker wars. Have at it there and all will stay happy here.

JR

Jolly Rancher,

The PSP is not one to back down, thats just the way it is and a lot of other bloggers are that way too; the PSP respect that. That being said, the PSP will rarely throw the first hay maker and in this case did not. So instead of telling me not to pick at it, how about you tell the original instigator(s) to apologize to the PSP and see what they say?

KobeMVP888

You sulked off the blog because the PSP kept asking you to pass HIS OWN SIMPLE TEST! And now you want to start setting examinations? Lol, hello mr black, sooty pot! When you take my test (and FAIL, hehe) then the PSP will gladly take yours! Btw while you were on your self imposed hiatus, the PSP answered the question about the motive behind my handle.

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

Well with 999-111 back, this blog will be more entertaining.
888 throws the first punch .....
devoid of any socially redeeming value whatsoever, so if "he" wants to embarrass "himself" by peppering this blog with that empty BS, let him enjoy "himself."......

Yes welcome back 999-111 let me issue the first of what will be many citations. This one is for "bad form"

Let's see, your welcome back bandwagon is up to 11 now, better get some of your renegade blog friends to up that number.

The Regular Season Police takes no sides in personal quarrels between bloggers as he says it brings life to the stagnation of the 27.

Just remember, in life, and this blog, you reap what you sow.

RSP

It does not help that our posts have come in soo close to each other, now they gonna think you are me and I am you ... Gotta co-ordinate this somehow! Feel free to issue as many citations as needed Inspector! Carry on sir!

Thanks
PSP Vice President

Always be aware and avoid a wounded animal for it is extremely dangerous and unpredictable!!

Just remember, in life, and this blog, you reap what you sow.

Posted by: Regular Seasons Police | March 22, 2011 at 04:35 PM

Praise the Lord and Amen!!

Just remember, in life, and this blog, you reap what you sow.

Posted by: Regular Seasons Police | March 22, 2011 at 04:35 PM

Praise the Lord and Amen!!

Good to see the Robin Hood of the LA times blog back to protect the bloggers from the tyrannical, arrogant posters who think their s...t no stinky!!

Posted by: downNout in BH | March 22, 2011 at 03:30 PM

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It's not MY s..t that doesn't stink, whoever the hell you are, it's Phil Jackson's, Derek Fisher's, Pau Gasol's, Andrew Bynum's and any other Laker who the GFEs insist on bashing despite the consecutive championships they have won for their "fans." Don't confuse my "arrogance" with my passion to defend "OUR" team. Besides, arrogance is essential sometimes, especially when you're dealing with the unappreciative and the spoiled rotten.

Or would you prefer to defend yellofever's right to be joyful when Derek Fisher almost had his arm ripped off at the elbow? That display by yellofever wasn't too arrogant (hateful), now was it? I'm sorry THAT's the ilk who you gravitate toward.

Oh well, I gave it a shot. I'm out.

JR

"How shocking.


Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 04:27 PM "

I'm sure it's no surprise. I've never been a fan of the idea that the regular season meaning nothing and he does a good job of showing the inconsistencies in that logic.

Saying the practice season means nothing is just a way of spinning the facts when they don't tell you the story you want to believe. All season, the practice season can be said to mean nothing but when they draw Portland or New Orleans in the first round, the first thing those people are going to say is that the Lakers had those teams number all year.

Jerry Buss is going to hire an experienced head coach. BShaw is a nice guy but he need someone to handle the ego maniac kobe. By this time next year kb will be in full decline and will still want to take 25 shots per game. We need a coach to say hell no.

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BRIAN SHAW FOR THE NEXT LAKERS COACH - BANDWAGON
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(01) BRONXLAKERFAN - OWNER - Off subject, but I just saw that NBA-TV "True NBA" segment concerning B. Shaw. That convinced me that Brian Shaw can handle replacing Phil. Brian Shaw has overcome the loss of his parents and sister and turned it into a positive by rearing his sister's daughter as his own. He was a tough and fearless player. As Chris Webber said on that program, "He's a man's man". I hope Brian gets a shot at his dream job.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - OK, on your recommendation, I'll second that vote of confidence!!!!
(03) CYBERCOSMIX - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'll third the motion!
(04) NBA4EVER - SECURITY - I was just telling a co-worker about that article and what a great person B Shaw was just the other day when we were talking about UCSB. It would be great if we could get it re-posted on the blog. Warm-up the wagon, my bags have been packed and I'm ready to jump on!
(05) KOBEAYASHIMARUE - I would definitely jump on that wagon...BShaw is well respected, has a good demeanor and would make a great coach for the Laker's. Blood runs deep and we should keep things in house for those that deserve and have earned.
(06) ROSS SNYDER PARK - , put me on the BShaw Bandwagon he will make a great coach

GOD&&%^!!!!! Isn't this dysfunctional family wonderful!!!! Laker Nation r shame..SHAME!!!!! Now stop this ISH!!! STOP IT NOW!!!

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 04:41 PM

Thank you for the clarification and no offense taken here. As blogs wanna be saint Edwin Gueco asked, why are you an angry person?

Long Live PSP!!

JR

You know me. I'd rather talk hoops. But I was either going to come back all in or not at all. Pussy footing around these trolls, inner trolls, posers and simply unappreciative, spoiled Lakers "fans" who don't properly represent Lakers Nation is not for me. I bleed Purple & Gold through and through.

Who would have thought a month and a half ago that we would be able to look back and say that we had a more interesting and more successful practice season in 2010-11 than we did in 2009-10? It's not even up for debate which team is better prepared for the post-season, assuming that we have continued good health (knock on wood).

Let us not forget that we are 16-4 since the beginning of that 7 game road trip which began on February 5th. That's slightly less that 25% of the practice season and there was ONLY that 3 game "lapse" at the end of the long road trip which was puzzling to many. That's 14 road games we're talking about (10-4) and an undefeated record at home (6-0) during that stretch. That is also 12-2 vs. playoff bound teams and 4-2 vs. lottery teams. In the words of Stu Lantz: "That will get it done!"

Think about the way we have won, too. Was Sunday's game a great example of Kobe doing work and closing games as we have grown accustomed to seeing him close games in seasons past? Talk about great practice for the post-season! This stretch of games has seen blowouts, tight games from beginning to end, come from behind wins, great third quarters, great fourth quarters, OT wins, the re-emergence of our great young center and our sorry old point guard and the lock down defense of Ron Artest. What was better, sputtering down the stretch last season with four players nursing mangled fingers and assorted other injuries or what we are witnessing RIGHT NOW?! I think everyone knows the answer to that.

1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!!

Posted by: mamba24 | March 22, 2011 at 04:53 PM

really and not to mention "stalker" running around in this blog.

Nice guys finish last in life and as a laker coach. B shaw is a nice guy so uh oh. Like the Priest i am not a nice guy in fact i'm the bad guy so chicks are crazy for me. Kobe is a bad guy and selfish to boot.

Posted by: island priest | March 22, 2011 at 04:52 PM

Really Kobe an ego maniac? I never saw him that way other than he wants to be the greatest ever and by golly works hard at it, even if means taking 30 shots to carry the load single handedly.

Posted by: mamba24 | March 22, 2011 at 04:53 PM really and not to mention "stalker" running around in this blog. Posted by: downNout in BH | March 22, 2011 at 04:55 PM
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Aw that's so sweet!!!! You poor thing U! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Well he wants to be the greatest ever but thats out of the question cause mj already have that title. But don't get me wrong I love kobe but the priest just believe his time has come and gone. He is over the hill and needs to now ride gasoft, odumb and the beast to ring number 6. Now he can be an excellent pg and can easily average 7 assist while taking 14 shots. But his huge ego will not allow to concede to father time.

I've never been a fan of the idea that the regular season meaning nothing.

Posted by: Bay to LA | March 22, 2011 at 04:47 PM

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That's not what it means, so you've allowed someone who doesn't understand the concept guide you. Way to go. Try reading my posts on the concept sometime. It didn't originate with me anyway; it originated from the wisest blogger I have ever read. If you think that "practice season" means that the regular season means "nothing," you need to go back to the drawing board.


Posted by: mamba24 | March 22, 2011 at 05:05 PM


Not kidding not sure if you have seen this, any idea?

Please don't anyone email or call me. I'm cancelling or changing all my accounts and numbers because of a stalker.

Posted by: justanothermambafan | March 21, 2011 at 07:56 AM

The priest just hope that the nfl gets its act together and come to an agreement fast. How can you not be able to share $7 billion. Come on man. Thats more than the gdp for most 3rd world countries. The nfl is tops in my book cause the nba is manipulated by stern and his chronies. Why you suspend the beast for 2 games for a little bump? I have seen shaq assault rondo in the playoffslast year with no flagrant or suspension. I have seen dirty garnett crack someone in the testicles a few weeks back with no punishment. There is just too much double standards.

Kobe MVP 888 - Welcome back!

Some asked about Theo Ratliff. I mentioned in Saturday's post that he practiced twice last week. Phil wants him in for another week of practice before evaluating him.

mamba24:

It seems like someone on the inside, ummm, crazy aye!

Just to be fair and unbiased i have seen players get techs for the least little body language. But look at the tantrum kobe was throwing in that portland game with no tech. He was cussing out the refs and carrying on like a 2 year old because he didn't get 1 0r 2 calls.

Not kidding not sure if you have seen this, any idea? Please don't anyone email or call me. I'm cancelling or changing all my accounts and numbers because of a stalker. Posted by: justanothermambafan | March 21, 2011 at 07:56 AM Posted by: downNout in BH | March 22, 2011 at 05:15 PM
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Idea of who the stalker is or what she is saying or what?

MM

Thanks! I hope I can contribute something meaningful this time around.

According to my calculations, we'll know by Thursday or Friday after shoot around if Theo will be suiting up for the Clippers game. That will be practice yesterday, Wednesday and Thursday, unless PJ gives them practice off tomorrow. If he gives them a day off on Wednesday, then we're looking at Sunday's game against a possible Round 1 opponent, the Hornets.

It seems like someone on the inside, ummm, crazy aye! Posted by: downNout in BH | March 22, 2011 at 05:18 PM
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Well you can get a lot more info from IP addresses than people think. So all she has to do is check the Ip addresses and it will tell you the location.

"That's not what it means, so you've allowed someone who doesn't understand the concept guide you. Way to go. Try reading my posts on the concept sometime. It didn't originate with me anyway; it originated from the wisest blogger I have ever read. If you think that "practice season" means that the regular season means "nothing," you need to go back to the drawing board.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 05:08 PM "

I don't care for the concept so whatever you say it means to you is fine with me. It's a very old debate and will get even older if we start arguing semantics.

When I read your posts , I see you labeling anyone who doubts the team after a loss as pessimistic and spoiled. You claim the Lakers obviously weren't trying in the game and that they are pacing themselves for the long haul and that other people lack the awareness to see that. You then show statistics to show that previous championship teams have also lost regular season games and experienced hardship along the way.

When the Lakers win, however, you don't downplay the game as a practice season game. You point out the positives in the game and talk about how it shows the Lakers are unstoppable when they actually try to win the game.

As you label yourself a GHF fan, you are just confirming what I am saying here. You're spinning things so you can see the best possible picture. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that but when you wear rose colored glasses, you're not going to see the same picture that other people see.

PSP or RSP

Hahaha u guys r a funny two headed monster!!

Can one of you please issue 888 a citation for false accusation? He is blaming me for throwing the first punch?? For what? Go back n read my post I simply stated let's all play by the same rules n get along!! Now mr triple digits is trying to claim I essentially got "joy out of watching dfish get his arm ripped off" (in his own exaggerated words) when in fact I was advocating more PT for barnes... Besides that has been water under the bridge for like a OVER A MONTH and (even his biggest supporters justa and lakertom defended me then!)... so what is the point of bringing something over a month old unless his motive is to vilify my name!!! Holding a grudge in for that long is also unusual and scary behaviour.. I may have to consider filing for a restraining order if this type of creepy behaviour keeps up... And btw, yellofever is also glad to have 888 back n hopes he can stick around this time.

Yello

Sir, you just tell the PSP how many yards of radius you want on that restraining order and it will be already done! We will waive the $500 filing fee for you as a fellow Lakerholic.

Thanks
PSP Intern

The Lakers are in trouble without Bynum. Laker fans better pray that he stays healthy for the playoffs or else they won't be making the Finals again. He is a low post presence and a good rebounder.

NBA4ever,
"All these threads all day is annoying! It's way too much and makes you not want to post as often unless you have no job or life outside of the LATimes blog!"

You lost me. That really makes no sense!

KobeMVP888,

I notice you're up to your old tricks.

I wanted you to know that I've written a complaint to the LA Times about you.

If you're going to make war, please understand that I'm not going to stop
hitting you until my hand breaks.

After that, I'm going to start using my elbows.

Mark & Laker Tom,

I'd be interested in a Laker game in Bay Area. Please connect me with Laker Tom

DKWSFO

CAN WE AGREE ON THESE POINTS ???
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Sometimes we have real substantive differences of opinion but most of the time I find once you get by the passion, emotion, and semantics, you usually just have a difference of degree. Anyway, I thought I might try and draft some statements with which I thought we all could agree to a degree regarding recent controversial topics. LOL. Probably a silly exercise but since I started, here goes:

CAN WE AGREE THAT the regular season is to the playoffs like the first three quarters of the game are to the 4th quarter? Labeling it the practice season isn’t saying the regular season is meaningless just as claiming that you only have to watch the 4th quarter of an NBA game doesn’t mean that the first three quarters don’t matter. But the reality is you can still win a game regardless of how you play in the first three quarters and, provided you make the playoffs, you can still win a championship even if you didn’t play all that well in the regular season. It all just depends on the team and situation.

CAN WE AGREE THAT home court advantage is definitely helpful in winning a championship but not as important as being healthy and ready to play? No one is saying that home court advantage is meaningless. We’re just saying it is not as important as being healthy, nor as critical to have for an experienced team that’s proven it can win big games on the road. It all depends on the team and the situation. We want home court over the East. We don’t necessarily need it to win in the West.

CAN WE AGREE THAT a major factor in how well the Lakers play defense is their efficiency in running their offense? The flip side of the Lakers huge advantage in length is the slowness of their big men, which is why opposing teams usually game plan to run the Lakers to score in transition. The Triangle Offense is designed to encourage good shot attempts and insure players are in right position to play transition defense. Thus, failing to run their offense efficiently plays right into the hands of opposing teams who turn the Lakers turnovers and early-shot long rebounds into fast break points.

Anyway, I thought these were three statements that we all could agree with to a degree. Let me know what you think. I thought it might be nice to find some neutral middle ground before it was too late.
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TOM

Andrew's suspension somehow makes me miss DJ Mbenga. Remember last season when he was starting center for a couple of games due to injuries to Pau and AB? For those 2 games, he had Bynum-esque numbers of 12.5 reb and 4.0 blocks, playing for 30 min. He was an affordable bench player who knew the system and could pinch in as starting 7-ft center in an emergency...

BronxLF,

I was sorry to hear about Ms. Holloway's passing also. Yep, that Love Sensation kept the dance floor jumping back in day. It even helped put Marky Mark (Wahlberg) when he sampled it on Good Vibrations for a #1 hit. Although she had more success with her disco stuff, I like some of her ballads also. She definitely had some pipes.

does anyone know a free website to watch the lakers game oniline tonight?

does anyone know a free website to watch the lakers game oniline tonight?

Post at 6:51pm...meant to say "helped put Marky Mark on the map"

Atlanta is the most annoying team in the league for me. They get blown out so many times by other good teams its ridiculous. I turn on the tube to enjoy a competitive game and they're blown out before halftime....sheesh.

@MM - Thanks for the Theo update. If he can play the last couple of weeks of the regular season to help spell Pau, Drew and LO that would be nice.

@LT - Health over HC...yes. Offense influences defense and vice-versa...yes. 4th qtr analogy to playoffs...fuzzy. Anyway - nice effort but the heated debates are inevitable.

KobeMVP888,

I notice you're up to your old tricks.

I wanted you to know that I've written a complaint to the LA Times about you.

If you're going to make war, please understand that I'm not going to stop
hitting you until my hand breaks.

After that, I'm going to start using my elbows.

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 22, 2011 at 06:35 PM
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You should have simply reported yourself. You do nothing but argue for the sake of arguing. I'm sure your complaint went something like this:

He wrote: Blah, blah, blah

I responded: zzzzzzz

Bay to LA

The majority of what stated was inaccurate. That's okay. You can perceive things anyway you want. I am consistent. ALL games during the long 82 are practice games for a championship tested, championship seasoned team like these Lakers, win or lose. You just spun that I think wins are important and that losses are meaningless. Regular season ins and losses are both meaningful in certain ways and meaningless in others. I dare say that the loss to Cleveland was more meaningful toward the Lakers success this season than that meaningless blowout of the Spurs. Which game did the team get more out of?

For won-lost records and playoff seedings, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. To me, there is no such thing as a statement game during the regular season for a back-to-back championship team whose goal is a championship and who isn't playing for anything short of a championship. Yes, there are "nice wins" like the one the other night against the Blazers, but the reason that was a "nice win" was because the Lakers got some great PRACTICE for the Real Season coming from behind and having Kobe and Fish go Kobe and Fish on a tough opponent.

It is wonderful to watch the Lakers seemingly get better and better as we approach the playoffs. That's a much safer formula than the disaster we observed leading into the playoffs last season, but all that proved was how overrated momentum was for THAT championship tested team.

It's not my problem if you don't want to embrace a simple concept that is 100% applicable to this team and which has borne itself out, ESPECIALLY this season. I'm sorry you don't see it and I'm sorry you don't grasp it. I tell it like it is and I don't spin anything. The truth is that "glass HALF empty" is being generous to the negative "fans" and "glass half full" isn't being generous enough to true fans who appreciate the gift that Dr. Buss has bequeathed us. To fans like LakerTom, CCX, LEWSTRS, and many, many others who have remained positive throughout the 82-game mess, the glass is filled almost to the brim.

"It's not my problem if you don't want to embrace a simple concept that is 100% applicable to this team and which has borne itself out, ESPECIALLY this season.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | March 22, 2011 at 07:45 PM "

It shouldn't be your problem, but you take it upon yourself to attack anyone who doesn't embrace your theories.


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