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Phil Jackson hoping to play Matt Barnes Friday against Charlotte

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Lakers Coach Phil Jackson hinted that forward Matt Barnes would play Friday against Charlotte, but said he wouldn't make a decision until seeing how Barnes' body responds Friday after participating in his first full-contact Thursday since rehabbing his surgically repaired right knee.

"Matt was all right today," Jackson said. "We'll obviously check and see how he reacts tomorrow and overnight. That kind of stuff. That's when we'll make a decision on this. Right now he's looking pretty good. I'm looking forward to him playing Friday, but we'll see. I'm going to hold back and make a positive declaration about it tomorrow."

Barnes, who publicly stated he felt healthy enough to return last week against Oklahoma City or Minnesota, delegated to Jackson the decision as to whether he'd suit up and play against the Bobcats. But he clearly hoped so. Unsure what his playing status entailed, Barnes fired a text message Wednesday night to Jackson, something he says they've done frequently since the beginning of the season.

The reasons go beyond Barnes' philosophical preference to text over talking on the phone because of his $69.99 plan that includes unlimited text messaging and allowing each other to return messages on their own time. Barnes believed the constant communication would make him better aware of his role, keep Jackson in the loop during his rehabilitation process since suffering a lateral meniscus tear on his right knee Jan. 7 against New Orleans and, of course, wondering what his playing status entails.

"It was very broad and very open, asking what are my chances" of playing Friday against Charlotte, Barnes said. "You know me. I'm trying to get out there."

Barnes said Jackson simply told him that Thursday's practice would provide clearer answers because it would mark his first full-contact practice. Barnes reported no pain, but acknowledged he felt 90% in game shape because of the necessity to catch up on his conditioning. There's no question Barnes has been eager to return, providing Twitter updates on his daily progress, acknowledging he has "a lot of built up energy" and lamenting frustration over the Lakers' three-game losing streak before the All-Star break.

Since then, the Lakers have reeled off five consecutive wins, a stretch Barnes attributed to an improvement in "focus" and "attention to detail."

"It's been tough," Barnes said. "I've been working hard. I've been trying to do my part and get back as soon as I possibly can. But at the same time making sure I'm ready when I come back."

Lakers forward Matt Barnes after Thursday's practice

The Lakers have emphasized for Barnes to take his time, believing long-term health will bodes the most importance. But they largely welcome the aggressive and efficient play he provided this season with averages of 7.4 points, 4.8 rebounds in 20.8 minutes per game off the bench.

"Matt is a smart player," Lakers guard Derek Fisher said. "He's tough. He competes and I think he has another guy who has a common goal of what this is all about. Having him back there and his energy on the floor and attitude and approach to things is going to be really valuable the rest of the season."

--Mark Medina

mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers forward Matt Barnes participated in his first full practice Thursday after missing the past 25 games following right knee surgery. Credit: Jayne Kamin-Oncea / US Presswire

 
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Great news!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K

What do we play for?

Los Rings/Anillos

What do we play for? Los Rings/Anillos Posted by: Mark G | March 03, 2011 at 02:29 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jon K is on the team?

Should be -

"What do we watch other people play for? Rings!"

And now it is my duty to say this...JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN I APOLOGIZE!!!!

NBA4ever,
First of all, I take pride in being direct and blunt when people talk around the subject matter.
If you'd like to discuss history, sociology, and psychology, I assure you I am well-versed in all these subject matters and welcome debate. I actually can back up what I'm talking about.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | March 03, 2011 at 02:05 PM


Jon K.
Don’t let “pride” make you an unlikeable person. A philosophy I try to live by.

I would love to debate history, sociology, and psychology with you. As you are, I too am well-versed in all these subject matters and can back up what I’m talking about.

The problem is that I don’t believe there is anything to debate. Like I said before, it sounds to me like a dogmatist neoconservative paranoid about inconsequential issues.

To quote my man:
Mark G

“it's "fricking retarded" to worry about Los Lakers one way or another.”
My point exactly!!!

Peace
Paz

Don’t let “pride” make you an unlikeable person. Posted by: NBA4ever | March 03, 2011 at 02:41 PM
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This is a very good philosophy to live by. I myself - as you can see in my post above - swallowed my pride and apologized to Justanothermambafan because I wasn't going to let pride make me an unlikeable person. I also apologized because she said she would hunt me down and rip my throat out if I didn't. There's nothing worse than being unlikeable and also having no throat!

NBA4ever

The problem is that I am not a dogmatic paranoid neoconservative. So you are clearly wrong and unable to engage in debate you simply run away from the discussion.

It is a weak person who initiates insults of someone and then when challenged runs away.

What do we play for? RINGS!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Good to hear about Matt's persistence. His energy has definitely been missed.

Good to hear about Matt's persistence. His energy has definitely been missed.
Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 02:55 PM
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Yes it has LRob, yes it has. As has yours!! So where the Hell ya been all day my brother???

Speaking of Cars, I dedicate this to...Yes, Yes, Yes Justanothermambafan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS70tCPP-_4 - Lil Red Corvette - Prince
Posted by: mamba24 | March 03, 2011 at 11:48 AM
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Speaking of cars….watch out if your baby drive up in a brand new Caddy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2WXlaWv2u0

Speaking of cars….watch out if your baby drive up in a brand new Caddy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2WXlaWv2u0 Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 03:00 PM
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GET DOWN LROB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is a weak person who initiates insults of someone and then when challenged runs away.

@JON K

I believe you initiated the insults attacking society as a whole. It is a weak person who worries themself with such inconsequential issues. I can't run away from nothing. There is nothing to debate, my point again is the same as Mark G's........

“it's "fricking retarded" to worry about Los Lakers one way or another.”

I didn't insult you directly, I said it just sounds like a dogmatic paranoid neoconservative. Which I'm suprised coming from you, reading your post for the last 4 years or so I thought you to be a much deeper person than one that worries himself over inconsequential issues. No debate here, it is an issue I could care less about one way or another.

Paz

This is a very good philosophy to live by. I myself - as you can see in my post above - swallowed my pride and apologized to Justanothermambafan because I wasn't going to let pride make me an unlikeable person. I also apologized because she said she would hunt me down and rip my throat out if I didn't. There's nothing worse than being unlikeable and also having no throat!

Posted by: mamba24 | March 03, 2011 at 02:53 PM

@mamba24
I agree 100%, I would hate to be unlikeable and have no throat! At least you could still communicate through the blog. The eating thing might be difficult. I don't doubt Justanothermambafan would rip your throat out if you didn't.

Hey LEWSTRS - I sent you an e-mail re: trades. Did you get it? :-)

MAMBA24 - you stated: "There's nothing worse than being unlikeable and also having no throat!"

My initial though: Sound like you're going to be like the knight on Monty Python's Holy Grail - "It's only a flesh wound!" haha! :-)

EVERYONE!!! STOP THIS ISH!! STOP IT NOW!!! Now I want you all to stop it, take a deep breath and listen to the words of this wise Philosopher on keeping The Family together!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrTJWoOTDLI

News around the ass-ociation....

Big Gravy...er, I mean Big Baby Davis is expected to miss a week with left knee patellar tendinitis.

Kevin Durant sprained his ankle and is doubtful for his next game...

http://www.dailythunder.com/

Despite a 1-6 record as Jerry Sloan's replacement, the Jazz ownership has extended Tyron Corbin for two years.

Battle of Fla. on TNT tonight...Magic vs. Heat at Miami....Mike Bibby expected to make his Heat debut.

My initial thought: Sound like you're going to be like the knight on Monty Python's Holy Grail - "It's only a flesh wound!" haha! :-) Posted by: Caliphilosopher | March 03, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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LMAO!! Hey Cali, how you been my brother. Yes it is true! Justa don't do flesh wounds, when she rips, she RIPS!!!

Big Gravy...er, I mean Big Baby Davis Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 03:17 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it has LRob, yes it has. As has yours!! So where the Hell ya been all day my brother???

Posted by: mamba24 | March 03, 2011 at 02:57 PM

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haha...getting my hustle on....so I can keep my NBA League Pass subscription, not to mention daughter's college tuition.

According to Phil another example of a BALLHOG aka BLACKHOLE:

Perhaps, but Artest said Jackson was right that it takes about two years to learn how to fit into the triangle.

"He's pretty good with it," Jackson said. "He's probably a little better than Kobe [Bryant] is at it because Kobe ignores the offense."

"Give it to Kobe and the offense stagnates, his team mates lose rhythm because they become spectators" really? "Yes, if you go back to game 7 from last year, didn't he try to win the game on his own and looked pathetic until his team mates came to his rescue?.

Truth,

Agreed 100%. When Jordan averaged 37.1 ppg in 1987 the league avg ppg was 109.9. When Kobe averaged 35.4 in 2006 the league avg ppg was 97. So which was the most impressive purely from a mathmatical point!

agree 100%, I would hate to be unlikeable and have no throat! At least you could still communicate through the blog. Posted by: NBA4ever | March 03, 2011 at 03:15 PM
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*sniff* *sniff* Now this is obviously a Glass Half full person. Bless you sir. Yes i could still communicate through the Blog, but...there also has been some talk that she is good at breaking hands also...Suffice it to say I did the prudent thing and apologized to the Head of the Mamba Clan. Why do you think she's lasted as long as she has as the Head of the family? It sure aint cause "She's funny Damnit" Justa I'm justa playing with ya! Please don't look at me like that dear!

Hey LEWSTRS - I sent you an e-mail re: trades. Did you get it? :-)

MAMBA24 - you stated: "There's nothing worse than being unlikeable and also having no throat!"

My initial though: Sound like you're going to be like the knight on Monty Python's Holy Grail - "It's only a flesh wound!" haha! :-)

Posted by: Caliphilosopher | March 03, 2011 at 03:16 PM

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Hey Cali...didn't get it bro...can you please resend...

Since "dogmatic paranoid neoconservative" is so popular as of late, I think I'm going to name my new puppy exactly that.


DBDH!

Agreed 100%. When Jordan averaged 37.1 ppg in 1987 the league avg ppg was 109.9. When Kobe averaged 35.4 in 2006 the league avg ppg was 97. So which was the most impressive purely from a mathmatical point! Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 03:30 PM
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NEITHER!! The fact - as someone mentioned in a prior thread - that Kobe was able to make Smush Parker and Kwame Brown better is not just the most impressive feat in the History of Basketball but...It is the most impressive feat in all the history of Sports bar none...BAR NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since "dogmatic paranoid neoconservative" is so popular as of late, I think I'm going to name my new puppy exactly that. Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | March 03, 2011 at 03:33 PM
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A damn fine name sir!! And when it grows up and bites the hell out of you for naming it that....

My initial thought: Sound like you're going to be like the knight on Monty Python's Holy Grail - "It's only a flesh wound!" haha! :-) Posted by: Caliphilosopher | March 03, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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LMAO!! Hey Cali, how you been my brother. Yes it is true! Justa don't do flesh wounds, when she rips, she RIPS!!!

Posted by: mamba24

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"I fart in your general direction..."


LOL

DBDH!

haha...getting my hustle on....so I can keep my NBA League Pass subscription, not to mention daughter's college tuition. Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 03:24 PM
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OH! In case carry on my brother! CARRY ON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmZdvVnMXCc

NBA4ever,

1. Listen, PAL, calling me a "dogmatic paranoid neoconservative" and my position "fricken retarded" are both insults and were intended as insults, so why don't you just man up about it and admit you were insulting me?

2. If you are so weak minded that you feel an attack on upon the Lakers "retarded" marketing campaign and/or perceived societal ills is somehow a direct insult upon your self, than I should have insulted you directly; however, at the time I did not know you were as weak minded as you are, thus no insult was made.

3. You engage in insults and then shy away when challenged. Your words and actions are not congruent. If you say you could "care less" about the issue, then why challenge and/or insult me in the first place? My instinct tells me that you are simply offended by people who use strong language and/or have strong opinions, because you lack that will/instinct yourself. Thus, you would attack people for thinking differently from you on the same grounds... that they would attack people who think differently from them. This makes you a hypocrite.

4. If you want to go further with this, I'm ready.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

"I fart in your general direction..." Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | March 03, 2011 at 03:35 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bronxlakersfan,

"Despite a 1-6 record as Jerry Sloan's replacement, the Jazz ownership has extended Tyron Corbin for two years."

Huh?

How does this make sense?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

NEITHER!! The fact - as someone mentioned in a prior thread - that Kobe was able to make Smush Parker and Kwame Brown better is not just the most impressive feat in the History of Basketball but...It is the most impressive feat in all the history of Sports bar none...BAR NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mamba24 | March 03, 2011 at 03:33 PM

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ding ding...winner winner chicken dinner!

@Lew - looks like we're locked into a tough battle in the other bball league.


@bronx - you missed Brewer signing with Dallas in your news update...what do you think?

why are sooooo many people giving other lakerholics a hard times when there are so many celtics and others that will do very nicely, thank you very much

Is Smush Parker still playing in China and bitter than Kobe made him a better player?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LRob - yes I made a mad push on League 2, and made the playoffs...

But Josh Smith and KDurant went down, and today being the trade deadline...I'm scrambling to try to be competitive in the playoffs...

Wish I had your situation in League 1...you are looking set and very strong...I hope the injury bug doesn't get you...for like our Lakers...Health is your X Factor...

Jon K...

I guess the Jazz are just giving Ty Corbin what they think is a fair chance. The Jazz have a lot of talent and Ty is familiar with the system. I think he will do well once things settle down after the Sloan/Williams fiasco.

why are sooooo many people giving other lakerholics a hard times when there are so many celtics and others that will do very nicely, thank you very much Posted by: lance from da' bronx | March 03, 2011 at 03:46 PM
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GOD@@!!!!~!! Give it to him!! Give it to him right now!!!!!!!
RCOTD = LANCE FROM DA' BRONX = OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!!

lance from da' bronx,

That's what we do when bored. Band together in small groups and then turn upon one another like rabid wolverines infected with the rage virus after drinking too much caffeine.

It's the natural cycle of things, really.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I can't believe Matt Barnes has unlimited text but not unlimited voice. Sad to see a millionaire like Barnes can only afford a $69.99 plan.

bronxlakerfan,

I'm still amazed that Deron Williams was able to push Jerry Sloan out AND then get traded to the Nets. HOW?!?!?

Sloan WAS the Jazz! Why didn't they just re-hire Sloan once Williams was traded? It makes no sense to me.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

I can't believe Matt Barnes has unlimited text but not unlimited voice. Sad to see a millionaire like Barnes can only afford a $69.99 plan. Posted by: Steve G (formerly Danglerzx) | March 03, 2011 at 03:53 PM
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WTH???? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jon K.
1. We would probably never be pals considering you are sooooooo smart and intelligent. I wasn’t insulting you I was just calling it how I see it, just a tad dogmatic.

2. Never felt it was a direct insult to me personally, just felt that someone might be a paranoid neocon to worry themselves about some “retarted marketing campaign” that was destroying the social fabric of the United States.


3. I could “care less” about the “retarted marketing campaign”, so should you because it isn’t going to divide the country and force us all to speak Spanish someday. No one is intimidated by your perceived strong language and/or strong opinions because I clearly don’t lack that will/instinct myself. In fact I find yourself perceived intellectual ability to be humorous and quite tool like.

4. If I want to go further with this are you going to beat me up in an alley?

@LRob...

Brewer is just the kind of young talent I'd like to see the Lakers pick up. I can understand the reluctance of the FO to add to the payroll, however. A million here, a million there, and pretty soon we're talking about some real money!

I think that after PJ leaves, it will be interesting to see if the Lakers are more active and aggressive at future trading deadlines and in picking up waived players. Phil is known to not have much confidence in players that haven't had a least a training camp with him.

@Jon K, bored?, reminds me of something, a guy is walking down the street and sees a guy coming from the other way hitting himself over the head with a hammer. as they get closer to eachother , the first guy says "dude, why are you hitting yourself with that hammer?". the second guys says
"because it feels so good when i stop"??:???

4. If I want to go further with this are you going to beat me up in an alley?
Posted by: NBA4ever | March 03, 2011 at 03:58 PM
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Jon K., NBA4ever, I'm warning you this ISH has gone too far!!! If you want to turn your wrath on someone turn it on Mamba24 and his mistreatment of the wonderful Justanothermambafan. Now he is a target that is worthy of wrath! Now stop this ISH!!! Give me a running head start and attack!!! LOL!

Jon K...

I can't believe that Sloan allowed Williams to force him out. Not privy to all the facts, but Sloan just seemed burned out and ready for a change. I agree that the Williams situation might have brought it all to a head, but my gut feeling says that 23 years of high stakes coaching caught up with Jerry and he just needed a break.

I agree that the Williams situation might have brought it all to a head, but my gut feeling says that 23 years of high stakes coaching caught up with Jerry and he just needed a break. Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 04:07 PM
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I'm inclined to agree, as you can see by one of Sloans statements about wishing DWill the best but, refusing to make any comment what so ever on the changes the Jazz were making.

NorCal,

you wrote:
According to Phil another example of a BALLHOG aka BLACKHOLE:

Perhaps, but Artest said Jackson was right that it takes about two years to learn how to fit into the triangle.

"He's pretty good with it," Jackson said. "He's probably a little better than Kobe [Bryant] is at it because Kobe ignores the offense."

"Give it to Kobe and the offense stagnates, his team mates lose rhythm because they become spectators" really? "Yes, if you go back to game 7 from last year, didn't he try to win the game on his own and looked pathetic until his team mates came to his rescue?.


my response: Phil Jackson also said that Kobe was uncoachable and as far
as I know ... he never retracted that. Isn't odd how he's come back to the
Lakers and actually coached Kobe? To 3 NBA finals appearances?

However, let's put this thing in perspective, ok?

If *you* want to bitch and moan about Kobe, the 5 time NBA champion,
& top 10 scorers of all time ... Feel free!

If *you* want to call Kobe a ballhog, when he's part of a 6 man club to
score more than 25000 pts with 5000 assists & 5000 rebounds ... feel free.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fishede01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html


These 3 links say that Kobe has more assists than the non-ballhog D-Fish
and the non-ballhog Shaq.

You have the right to call Kobe a ballhog. You have
the right to not like him. You have the right to keep comparing him to
Magic and find him wanting. It's the US. Knock yourself out.

In light of these *facts*, you're referring to Kobe as a ballhog shows you to be
emotionally distraught and frankly of dubious reasoning capability.

However, I am just a fan and my thoughts mean less than a cow fart in
France.

With that being clearly said ....

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!!

ps. Kobe may be a ballhog to you, but I'm estatic that he's a Laker. Ugly
tattoos and all. And I'll take his team leading assists, and towel throwing
antics ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over the soft sissifying, kumbaya singing,
mamby-pamby slop you're slingin'.

Once again Jordan is the GOAT and Kobe is second. There is no statistical category except maybe 3point fg% where kobe is marginally better. Kobe's best fg% is one of the worse for Mj. Now i am sure kobe would make a better gm that mj because mj is not too bright with picking talent. kwame and adam morrison? Come on mj you are better than that.

Jon K

Police here; do you have irrefutable proof that D Will forced Sloan out of Utah? You sound like you do; the PSP would like to hear what you got son.

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

4. If I want to go further with this are you going to beat me up in an alley?

Posted by: NBA4ever | March 03, 2011 at 03:58 PM

Beat is too soft of a term, how about beat the crap or make a pulp out of you..haha by the way not in the dark but in broad day light for everyone's viewing pleasure, you DIG!! hahahaha!!

NBA4ever,

1. You are utterly disingenuous and passive-aggressive in speech.

2. "I wasn’t insulting you I was just calling it how I see it, just a tad dogmatic." Yeah, right. Sure. Dude, have the gall to take responsibility for your own words instead being evasive.

3. "In fact I find yourself perceived intellectual ability to be humorous and quite tool like." I'm sure you didn't mean this as an insult, right? Well, listen up, pansy, I find your sense of smug self-righteousness to be utterly offputting. Do you drink Chardonney when you watch the Lakers? I'm sure watching the game with you is probably as enjoyable as going to a banquet with a Vegan.

Anyhow, unlike your annoying political correct admonishment to "Don’t let “pride” make you an unlikeable person." I'm more concerned with honesty and supporting my position than being "likable" and I find people who take your position to be utterly shallow. So, I hope you're clear on that.

4. If you want to spar, I'm ready. I would never punk a person and I don't throw the first punch, but I'll throw the last.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

bronxlakerfan,

I just don't see Jerry Sloan just "quitting" in the middle of a season.

It just doesn't seem to be in his character.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Practice Season Police,

I don't. I'm just trying to put the pieces together.

The story as it is told just doesn't make sense.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Mamba,

Thank you for that dose from the pride of Wendell Phillips high. I could listen to Sam all day (and often do).....


My, my, my, my, my, my work is so hard
Give me water…huk, I'm thirsty
My, my, my, my work is so hard

ps. Kobe may be a ballhog to you, but I'm estatic that he's a Laker. Ugly
tattoos and all. And I'll take his team leading assists, and towel throwing
antics ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over the soft sissifying, kumbaya singing,
mamby-pamby slop you're slingin'. Posted by: hobbitmage | March 03, 2011 at 04:13 PM
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OOOOH WEEEE!!! Your Honorary Mamba Clan membership awaits you sir!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDpJoykyfOE

Norcal,

If there was a "like" button on your comment, I would have clicked it.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Lew,

Congrats on being playoff bound in the other league. You’re right health is the key in fantasy just like real life bball. You did alright for your first year in our league. I think your biggest problem was drafting injured guys (Drew and Mike Miller). It’s hard to make up ground once you get that far behind.

I got hit by injuries too. Noah and Caron Butler both went down for me. I can only hope I stay healthy the rest of the way.

Why is everybody (island priest) always so inclined to assign the tag of GOAT to Michael Jordan? Did he score more points than Kareem? Kareem also matches his 6 chips. Russell had 11 chips. Michael was a great. great player. But GOAT is a very subjective debate. And Kobe Bryant belongs in that debate. He's earned it with his body of work and there is more to come.

@LRob, Yep! Sam was one of the BEST!!!!!!

Brewer is just the kind of young talent I'd like to see the Lakers pick up. I can understand the reluctance of the FO to add to the payroll, however. A million here, a million there, and pretty soon we're talking about some real money!

I think that after PJ leaves, it will be interesting to see if the Lakers are more active and aggressive at future trading deadlines and in picking up waived players. Phil is known to not have much confidence in players that haven't had a least a training camp with him.

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 04:01 PM
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I think they will be slightly more aggressive and it will be needed to keep up as other teams get better.

If the Lakers would've got Brewer it would've pretty much signaled the end for Ebanks...so maybe the Lakers believe in Devin.

I also agree on your Sloan comments. It was just his time.


Why is everybody (island priest) always so inclined to assign the tag of GOAT to Michael Jordan? Did he score more points than Kareem? Kareem also matches his 6 chips. Russell had 11 chips. Michael was a great. great player. But GOAT is a very subjective debate. And Kobe Bryant belongs in that debate. He's earned it with his body of work and there is more to come.
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 04:25 PM
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The only thing I can say to that is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3-iBfP-Pfo


Another thing I hear a lot is that Kobe is a Michael Jordan wannabe. DUH?!! Who better to emulate than perhaps the greatest perimeter player of all time if you are also a perimeter player? Should Kobe have aspired to be like Smush Parker? Trust me, every perimeter player in the league today watches Kobe very closely and learns from his basketball acumen. Yeah and that includes LeBrawn, Wade, Melo et al. And that's the way it should be.

Should Kobe have aspired to be like Smush Parker? Trust me, every perimeter player in the league today watches Kobe very closely and learns from his basketball acumen. Yeah and that includes LeBrawn, Wade, Melo et al. And that's the way it should be. Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 04:32 PM
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Are you sure that you are not one of those missing members of the Mamba Clan that Justa forgot to tell me about?...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!

@Mamba24....Thanks for the kind words!!! AMEN....a true, timeless classic! And, yes I heart the Black Mamba of the L.A. Lakers!

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 03, 2011 at 04:13 PM

I too am a fan of Kobe but not when it comes to his leadership abilities. Yes, there many ways to light fire in someones belly but just don't buy into Kobe's program. One of the reasons DFish was brought back and still with the team is because of his leadership skills which has delivered us 3 rings, no ifs ands butts.


Jon K

The PSP agree; the story definitely does not add up but who really knows what happened, feel me? The fact they traded D Will right after adds to the intrigue and 'confusion' about the whole thing. Anyways, back to the Lakers.

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

I HEAR LOT ECHO IN THE BOG

Posted by: Jon K. | March 03, 2011 at 04:25 PM

Sorry to disappoint you Jon K. you are simply not my type.

I am objective and of course GOAT is subjective. Kareem played for 20 years man with one move the skyhook. Bill won 11 rings when there were about 4 teams in the league plus billy is not even in the top 20 in scoring. MJ is the GOAT and everyone knows it. I hated jordan but i saw what jordan did live and with style. Bird and Magic saved the league while jordan made it global. no other athlete in all of sports had a more impact than mj. My wife would pass out if she knew i was praising mj but facts dont lie.

4. If you want to spar, I'm ready. I would never punk a person and I don't throw the first punch, but I'll throw the last.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | March 03, 2011 at 04:19 PM

That would depend if you even get a chance to throw the last punch, what if NBA4ever gets you first with that sucker punch, lights out!!

MJ is the GOAT and everyone knows it.

Posted by: island priest | March 03, 2011 at 04:51 PM

Everyone except me. I wish I could be as drop dead sure about such a debatable topic. There are far too many great players, many of whom did not have the entire league and the marketing juggernaut of Nike backing them, for me to say that one player in one era is the GOAT. Was Mike better than George Mikan? I don't know. Vastly different eras. All I know is that Mike is in the debate. And so is Kobe Bryant.

Norcal I made the same points earlier this year. The lakers have leadership by committee. fish is washed up but a great leader and communicator. while kobe leads by example but is not a good leader. I remember in the playoffs against the suns post shaq a few years ago. Lamar complained that there was no comraderie in the lakers locerroom. There was no fish and kobe was the supposed leader. of course la lost the series. that is why la has the worse starting pg in the league but have no doubt if he was not on the team la would crumble.

However, I am just a fan and my thoughts mean less than a cow fart in
France.

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 03, 2011 at 04:13 PM

Agree which you cowboy!

“Ilsa, I’m no good at being noble, but it doesn’t take much to see that the problems of three little people don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world”.

@LRob...

I think one of my comments got lost. I answered one of yours by saying you made a great point that Brewer plays a position where the Lakers are overstocked at present. Of course, if The Show does a David Copperfield trick and replaces Luke Walton with Corey, well, I'm not going to be angry!!

Posted by: island priest | March 03, 2011 at 05:01 PM

Absolutely agree with you.

Bronx kobe is in the top 5 but he let Tayshawn prince shut him down in the finals. Paul pierce shut kobe down in 2008 and beat him on the offensive. name a player who ever stopped mj. There was nonone. In the eighties the whole boston team couldn't hinder mj. kobe is a good imitation like how a lexus is an imitation of a mercedes. mj had 10 scoring titles while kobe had 2.

Bynum became a starter right after Christmas and Barnes got injured Jan. 11. So it's been only 2 weeks period that all of 9 men rotation, with Odom and Killer Bs's playing out of the bench all seaon long. Barnes will give the Lakers much needed energy that has been lacking all season long.

Posted by: island priest | March 03, 2011 at 05:10 PM

And how many MVPs verus 1 for Kobe?

Norcal,

Generally speaking, you block people's punches instead of letting them hit you. Anyhow, I've been sucker punched by professional boxers before and kept standing.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | March 03, 2011 at 05:21 PM

I believe you.

bronxlakerfan,

Those who should be in the discussion of the "Greatest Ever"

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Magic Johnson
3. Michael Jordan
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabaar
5. Bill Russell
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Elgin Baylor
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Sasha Vujacic

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

priest...

Kobe is not an imitation of anyone. He has carved out a very impressive career for himself. If you favor Michael Jordan's game to his, that is certainly your right. But consider that Michael played with the 2nd best perimeter player of his era, one Scottie Pippen. The best perimeter players of this era have all been Kobe's opponents. Scottie enhanced Mike's career and enough is never made of that point.

And Prince and Pierce didn't shut Kobe down by themselves. It took entire teams to slow Kobe down.

MJ had 5 regular season and 6 finals. kobe used to be my hero until last season when i saw him as the selfish person he truly is. When kobe took some games off last season the cat refused to be on the bench and cheer his teammates on. I was shocked by this. His excuse was that he had to get treatment in the lockerroom. Like kobe regressed in his selfishness. This year you see what he did to the Logo by not showing up to his statue unveiling. Here is a man who traded a talented center in Divac for a high school kid. But thats kobe. We all love his talent but he doesn't seem to be a good teammate. The picture i had in my head was the kobe with the wide smile after winning his one and only mvp in a sea of his teammates. To a man who couldn't be bother to sit on a bench in a $2,000 suit to cheer his team on

Jon K...

Sasha is definitely the greatest basketball player that has ever been engaged to Maria Sharapova!!

Watch the tapes man. Against Detroit kobe constantly went in the corners and prince with his eight feet arms forced kobe into turnovers or terrible shots. Plus he was driven to get an mvp after shaq had 3 already. Against Boston Pierce had him in check for a few games.

We all love his talent but he doesn't seem to be a good teammate.

Posted by: island priest | March 03, 2011 at 05:27 PM

The key word in that sentence is "seem". Unless you are one of Kobe's teammates, you really don't know what kind of leadership he brings behind closed doors, do you?

Jerry Sloan is 68 years old. His team was struggling and did not appear to be a capable of title in the near future. From what I hear, the players and the organization itself didn't have his back.

There's nothing that leads me to believe he didn't make the choice on his own. Maybe Sloan would still be there if the Deron Williams trade had happened earlier, but I don't think Williams forced him out.

Island Priest -

I was thinking about your comment that no one slowed Jordan down, and I remembered that Jordan said that the late Bobby Phills was the toughest defender he ever had to play against. Here's an article describing him:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1009382/index.htm

So while Jordan was a great player in his own right, I worry about the hyperbole.

@Island - there's a ton of people that don't list MJ as the GOAT. Count me as one of them. But he's certainly one of the greatest ever. By saying Kareem only had one move shows you either missed a great portion of his career or wasn't paying attention.


@bronx - agree on CBrewer.


@Mamba - excellent musical contributions today. Carry on!

excellent musical contributions today. Carry on! Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 05:52 PM
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Thank you sir! We try! LOL!

excellent musical contributions today. Carry on! Posted by: LRob | March 03, 2011 at 05:52 PM
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Thank you sir! We try! LOL!

Sasha is definitely the greatest basketball player that has ever been engaged to Maria Sharapova!! Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 03, 2011 at 05:32 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!

Bronx looks like you have backup eh? lol Jordan has the highest regular season and playoff ppg average in the history of the league. jordan is the goat. everyone including non basketball fans know that. That was why i who hated jorsan used to spend $150 for his tennis everytime a new series came out. No one wants to buy kobe tennis except la fans. That was why jordan made so much money from advertising that he could have played for free. He is now a team owner with all that money after giving his wife juanita half. The same way jerry rice was voted the all time best in the nfl. jordan is the goat in basketball. Kobe is one of the best all time but Jordan was bigger than the nba. There was no one better.

Look at how kobe plays defense. He always leaves his man open by wandering. Jordan was named defensive player of the year in one season. Google how many 40, 50 and 60 points kobe has had for his career. Kobe can play for the next 5 years and not surpass jordan's total. Let us speak the truth and shame the devil.

Island priest -

Just a thought before I head out for a bit - Wilt's scoring average is a tick below Jordan's and yet he did his without the help of a 3-pt shot (which may be something to think about).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_career.html

Cali good article i never heard of that guy. People put magic ahead of kareem because magic was a better leader. But take care man until future debates.

 
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