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Outlining how Andrew Bynum's two-game suspension will affect the Lakers

The Lakers hoped that as time ticked by, it would become more and more apparent that Andrew Bynum would escape a league suspension for his flagrant foul Friday against Michael Beasley.

That didn't happen.

The NBA alerted the Lakers Sunday that Bynum will face a two-game suspension without pay for knocking Beasley to the ground with his right forearm as he drove to the basket late in the fourth quarter, a play that will sideline him Sunday against Portland and Tuesday against Phoenix.

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson was predictably displeased with the ruling, as detailed by The Times' Mike Bresnahan, and it doesn't take much basketball savvy to know that this isn't a good thing. But below the jump I explain in detail how Bynum's absence affects the Lakers.

1. The Lakers lose his rebounding and defensive tenacity. As easy the narrative it is to chalk up the Lakers' 11-1 mark since the All-Star break to their willingness to put in more effort, plenty of it has to do with Bynum. He's recorded five consecutive double doubles, averaged 13 rebounds and 2.58 blocks and has been largely instrumental in the Lakers holding teams to 88.58 points since the break.

2. Bynum's absence puts further pressure on Pau Gasol to elevate his game.Bynum's two-game absence is by no means equivalent to the 24-game absence he had at the beginning of the season to treat his surgically repaired right knee. So I can't imagine Gasol suddenly hitting fatigue by playing increased minutes in the next two games like he did during the first 24. But it will be interesting to see how Gasol responds on the rebounding end and on defensive rotations after moving to the center position.

Jackson didn't mince words when he mentioned Gasol as the primary culprit for Minnesota exposing the Lakers on screen-and-rolls. He also didn't bite his tongue by pointing out Gasol has grabbed only five rebounds in four consecutive games, a huge drop to the 10.1 rebounds he averages that ranks him in the league's top five.

Of course, that drop off is partly a by product of Bynum's increased presence. But that shouldn't give Gasol an excuse to allow Bynum to do the dirty work while he just worries about draining mid-range jumpers. Gasol often has appeared motivated by circumstances and when Jackson calls him out so I'd expect Gasol to rise to the challenge.

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3. This will put even more pressure on Kobe Bryant to play. Jackson often defers to Bryant on his practice time and playing status, arguing that Bryant knows his body well and demonstrates an extraordinary capability to play through injuries. This is by no means an indictment on Bryant. But there's no other way to put it. His sprained left ankle has severely affected his shooting stroke and elevation, contributing to his 13 of 36 clip (36.1%) in the past two games since spraining his left ankle. Bryant's numbers in March haven't been great to begin with, shooting 39.9% from the field through seven games. But a stiff neck and shoulder after accidentally butting heads with Minnesota's Martell Webster and a sprained left ankle only exacerbates manners. Having Bynum out of the lineup surely won't convince Bryant it's better to sit out.

4. The Lakers bench will be tested. Lamar Odom will start play at power forward in Bynum's absence, a role he's played admirably. Odom's displayed remarkable consistency. But his game has actually elevated as a starter. Consider the stats Odom has posted as a starter and reserve in both points per game (15.7, 13), field-goal percentage (56.7%, 50.5%) and rebounds (10.1, 7.4). This by no means suggests any inconsistency from Odom as Odom has been their most consistent player all season. It also shows that Odom will be able to fill the starter's role during Bynum's suspension. But it also raises question on how the rest of the bench will respond without him. Steve Blake and Shannon Brown combined for an eight of 11 clip Friday against Minnesota, but Brown has shot below 50% in five of the eight games in March while Blake has gone under 50% in six of those contests. Meanwhile, Matt Barnes took a step forward, scoring nine points against Minnesota after having nondescript efforts in his previous five games since returning from a right knee injury. But the reserves haven't shown a consistent pattern they can manager Bynum's absence.

5. The incident itself will have positive long-term implications.A two-game suspension is a little harsh, a one-game suspension is appropriate and the Lakers' insistence that Bynum committed nothing more than a hard foul overlooks what actually happened. I don't fault the Lakers for saying that. They're supporting Bynum after all. But the fact that Bynum forearmed him showed clear intent that he was trying to hurt Beasley, an incident that clearly showed Bynum was overwhelmed with frustration. There's a fine line between playing tough and acting off emotions. For example, Ron Artest's tussling with Paul Pierce in Game 1 of the 2010 NBA Finals helped set the tone, while his never-ending trash talking on Michael Beasley distracted his focus.

Even if Bynum's foul wasn't appropriate, it will undoubtedly have a positive effect on the Lakers. They responded after his foul with a 18-9 run in the final 6:16 to secure a victory, feeding off the team's emotions and the crowd's energy. The team will likely amp up their support for Bynum in the next few days, touting the progress he's made on the glass and on defense since the All-Star break, standing up for him in what they consider an ill-advised suspension and using his absence as a rallying cry for everyone else to sharpen their play.

It will also create more of a dialogue among coaches, players and the media alike on what exactly constitutes a hard foul. The Lakers have hoped for a while for Bynum to develop more of an edge and show toughness, and there's no doubt he'll gain more confidence after laying out Beasley. It's the exact mentality the Lakers need for the postseason so long as they play with that physicality from a tactical standpoint than one solely based on emotions.

--Mark Medina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers center Andrew Bynum tries to put up a shot while being guarded by center Darko Milicic and guard Wesley Johnson during the first half of the Lakers' 106-98 victory Friday at Staples Center. Credit: Gary Friedman / Los Angeles Times

 
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CMON ROOKIES AND JOE SMITH! NOW IS YOUR TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pau gasol time to prove to everyone you're not soft.
barnes and blake, lets see some killer b's

lets go back to that killer 8 game winning streak at the beginning of the season!!

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RANDOM THOUGHTS ~ BRIEF VISIT . . .

Hello everyone. Reading everyday, but seldom posting recently. Hopefully that will change in due time. (JUSTA- MrsLM says "Hi".)

1. Stern seeking to help Lakers prep for playoffs, giving Drew a couple of games off to rest that knee. Sneaky move on his part. Rumor has it that the delayed announcement (no word on Saturday) was due to Stern's underlings checking to see when Lakers next play Memphis. Seems the Commisioner was eyeing that as one of the games Drew might miss. Such a thoughtful commissioner.


2. Commentator Walt Frazier sounds like some light-headed, distant-cousin to cartoon character Yogi Bear.


3. Not to be outdone, commentator Tommmy Heinsohn is a deadringer for cartoon character Fred Flintstone. I dare you to tell me you cannot hear the freakishly erie similarities! WILMA!!! THAT WAS A FOUL!!!! NO TOMMY POINTS FOR THAT OFFICIAL!!!!!


4. Keep your eyes on the Chicago Bulls. Convergence of Zen-like ying-yang beginning to emerge. (Remember all those bizarre repeats between Lincoln & Kennedy? One's assasin fled theater to be captured in a warehouse, the other fled warehouse to be captured in a theater... Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy, Kennedy's secretary named Lincoln... etc, etc.)
--Jacksons first championship as NBA coach was Bulls over Lakers // Last could be Lakers over Bulls
--Jacksons TWO threepeats in Chicago following Laker's Showtime Dynasty // TWO threepeats in LA following Chicago's MJ Dynasty
--Jackson only PLAYED in two NBA Championship Series (injured in 69-70). LOST his first chance against... THE LAKERS. WON his second chance against... THE LAKERS!


5. Celtics 13-8 so far in February-March. Smells a lot like last year's medicore record over the final half of the season which ended up being a rope-a-dope. But, since the Perkin's trade, that "Celtic Mystique" seems over-inflated. No more "undefeated starters" nonsense. No more, "we've been there - done that" assertions. And a celtic-fans, nausea-inducing dependency on Shaq, or Jermaine, or Baby, or Krystic in the middle come crunch time?


Carry on...
LakerMike

Time for the bench to step up. The Killer B's have been playing much better of late, especially Steve Blake, let's hope it continues tonight.
Derrick Caracter - time to lace 'em up!

somebody see what Kevin Mchale thinks about the suspension....


A BIGGER, BADDER, AND BETTER BYNUM !!!!!!!!
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I’m definitely bummed that Drew got a 2-game suspension and wish he had not lost his cool and laid the wood to Beasley like he did. On the other hand, I also feel a little bit like the parent who is proud of his kid for being tough. Toughness is a basic requirement for a championship team and having opposing players worrying in the back of the minds about possibly getting fouled hard if they attack the paint with Drew in the game in the playoffs is probably worth the two-game suspension. It’s an often ignored part of why Drew is such a defensive force. Just ask Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Wallace, or Michael Beasley. Bottom line, the message delivered may be worth missing the two games.
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While nobody likes to see their players take cheap shots and possibly injure an opposing player or get suspended, we also don’t want players who are afraid to get physical. The Lakers are fortunate that they have several key players who have that edge and will not hesitate to retaliate when physically bullied or hammered. Kobe, Derek, Ron, and Drew definitely share that trait and opponents know not to mess with them for that reason. These are the guys you want having your back in a battle. It’s their toughness and how it even rubs off on Pau and Lamar that will help this team win again.
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I think Pau and Lamar and the rest of the Lakers will bond together and come out and win the next two games to show their appreciation for Drew and the innate toughness that he brings to the team. I think Pau and Lamar will come out determined to provide the same interior physicality and defensive intensity that Drew provided. They know how he has had their backs in every game since the All-Star break. Now it’s their turn to have Drew’s back and go out there and win these two games to make sure that Drew’s suspension did not hurt the team or its chances for home court advantage in the Finals.
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Well said LakerTom, well said.

IF Drew's foul warranted a 2 game suspension, THEN McHale's close line warranted him being banned from the Hall of Fame...

KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM!"

@Mamba24--Thanks for all the compliments. I'm humbled in the presence of your Greatness!

Also, How About Starting a "COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF THE BEAST" BANDWAGON?


KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM!"

Excellent post again LakerTom.

@mud
your post was spot on as well!

I too am glad that Drew has not backed down to any trash talkers and has "protected" his fellow teammates. In the 80s, this would have been considered just a good foul and not even be considered as anything else than good, hard defense. If Beasly weren't trash talkin' all game long, than maybe this wouldn't have been warranted, but the dude had it coming to him all day!

I wish Phil would play Caracter more during these next two games becuase it will releive Pau of some minutes, and give the kid some needed confidence if we need him to play a few minutes in the playoffs.

Anyone have a progress report on Ebanks' recovery?

This one's for Drew since he know's he right for protecting his mates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv96yJYhk3M

that play was beneath Bynum and beneath the Lakers. A cheap shot is the exact opposite of the toughness we want to see in the interior. I want to see bynum swat balls into the stands, not floor the opposing team's talent.

All that said, flagrant 2 + 2 games seems severe. For example, last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyZ4vQ8_1Y

was a flagrant 1.

Dude....the truth is Drew is not TOUGH, that right he's not a BAD ASS. I remember Drew laying a hard pick on Derron Williams, I know most of you remember that play, where Williams went after Drew. And Shoved Drew and was ready to lay some WOOD on him before his team came his aid. LO and Matt step in, Beasley would have laid Drew OUT. You become a BEAST when you can back it up.

Bynum Suspension is a bummer and it sucks. Rudy Gay had a similar flagrant foul 2 and was suspended for 1 game..... why Bynum gets penalized for 2. dumb NBA office and Stu Jackson.

During AB's 2 games absences, the Lakers' opponents' centers will be Marcus Camby and Marcin Gortat..Not exactly big body figures..I think Gasol can hanlde these players. I hope to to see Camby (36) vs Smith (35) mathch up too. Smith is 1 yr younger than Camby.

There's no justifying what Bynum did. That was a dirty, dangerous foul that has no basis on a basketball court. He could have ended Beasley's career in the blink of an eye. If Darko Milicic had taken Kobe Bryant out of the air like that, I doubt if the Wolves' charter flight would have been able to leave LAX. Laker fans would have had the torches and pitchforks out and would be demanding blood.

Look, I'm a big Laker fan and as such I love the positive effects of Baby Bynum's game changing contributions. And, from all accounts, he's a very nice young man, cerebral and an independent thinker. I understand what he was trying to do. But he went about it in the wrong way. You can be tough without being dirty. Andrew crossed the line and has to pay the price. I hope he learns from this.

That was the sweetest flagrant foul I've ever seen. Bynum just gave that stare too, like you aint coming in here like that. Then, Lamar was right there having Bynum's back when it was Bynum who put the hurt on. It was a beautiful display of comraderie that a team like the Timberwolves has no chance against.

Bynum's willingness too lay out a Micheal Beasley sends a clear message to everyone in the NBA. The Beast means business. Don't come weak in the paint when Andrew Bynum is on the floor.

I am loving what I'm seeing right now from the Lakers. We need to keep it up and stay healthy.

Go Lakers!
Go Aztecs! Beat UConn!!!!

@G. Money "Dude....Remember when Kobe got cloth lined by Bell you wanted him suspended for the entire playoffs. It was just in the heat of the playoff basketball right, just like Beasley Kobe brought it upon himself. I honestly think he got off lightly, should have been more. Let K-mart deliver a hard foul like that on Pau, you'll want him kick out the association FOREVER. Always wanting the CARD stack in your corner, get real and STOP CRYING."

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First of all, a clothesline foul is even more dangerous than Bynum's hard elbow foul with Mrs. Beasley in mid-air. Head and neck trauma can be sustained, including damage to the airway that can result in death. Don't take my word for it, here's a medical link discussing it:

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/827223-overview

Now, Mrs. Beasley could've sustained head and neck injuries too. Less likely that he could've sustained airway damage (albeit not impossible) than with Raja Bell's clothesline foul.

And So, if the purpose of the suspension is to send a message to the player (and other players) that these types of flagrant fouls will not be tolerated due to the risks of serious injuries, AND a clothesline foul ONLY warrants a one game suspension, THEN a two game suspension of Bynum is EXCESSIVE.

I'm not sure who you referring to when you wrote "Dude", for all I known you're Jon Stewart and you were referring to the President, but I felt obliged to respond on behalf of Lakerholics on this blog.

It seems the word "FAIRNESS" equated to "CRYING" in your world...

Oh and BTW: Why are you so interested in seeing a fight between Mrs. Beasley and Drew? Typical Troll... You're just hoping that Bynum would get in a fight so that he's gone for the playoffs!

Like Mrs. Beasley, I expect you to come back at me in hopes that I'll write something to get banned from the blog. However, like Drew I won't get sucked into it. So have fun bashing me now as I am bigger and better than that.

KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM!"

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"COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF THE BEAST" BE AFRAID NBA, BE VERY AFRAID -
BANDWAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(01) THE TRIANGULATOR – OWNER - How About Starting a "COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF THE BEAST" BANDWAGON? IF Drew's foul warranted a 2 game suspension, THEN McHale's close line warranted him being banned from the Hall of Fame...
(02) LAKERTOM – CO/OWNER - A BIGGER, BADDER, AND BETTER BYNUM !!!!!!!! I’m definitely bummed that Drew got a 2-game suspension and wish he had not lost his cool and laid the wood to Beasley like he did. On the other hand, I also feel a little bit like the parent who is proud of his kid for being tough. Toughness is a basic requirement for a championship team and having opposing players worrying in the back of the minds about possibly getting fouled hard if they attack the paint with Drew in the game in the playoffs is probably worth the two-game suspension. It’s an often ignored part of why Drew is such a defensive force. Just ask Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Wallace, or Michael Beasley. Bottom line, the message delivered may be worth missing the two games.
(03) MAYOR OF KOBE TOWN - Wow. 2 Games does seem excessive. Stern wasn't getting enough attention lately so time to stir up some controversy and get his name back in the headlines.
(04) MUD – ENFORCER - this. i hope he's ok, too, but not because of sympathy for him becoming a victim, but just because i really don't like to see others hurt. otherwise, i'm all for plastering him to the floor. if you want to fine Drew, that's ok by me, but a two game suspension is unwarranted, especially when this foul is compared to others in the recent past. i just wish Drew had put his arms up and THEN blasted Beasley.
(05) KARMANIAC – RIDING SHOTGUN1 - To be "the Beast" forces to you to be beast and to act like a beast. To applaud the beast and soon to cry the sanction is incongruous.
(06) TOM DANIELS - RIDING SHOTGUN - Two games is a bit much, but Drew is a Laker. This is all part of the maturation process for a big guy. When you become dominant, other teams have no choice but to come at you physically. They can't match up. And the refs tend to swallow their whistles when smaller guys hit bigger ones. Drew is bigger than everybody, so he will take a beating. It's frustrating, not to mention painful. And from Mikan to Wilt to Kareem to Shaq every big guy has had to learn to deal with it. Drew is only 23 with not a lot of NBA miles. Hopefully he learns from this to turn his anger into rebounds, dunks and blocked shots. This is relatively cheap, really. Kareem was out for 2 months in 1977 when he punched Kent Benson (and he was 30 years old). 2 games is nothing if Drew learns from it.
(07) HUMANOMALY - ...and I'm down here writing and see that Bynum has been suspended 2 games for what was just a flagrant foul. Unbelievable....I think the players really need to get together, perhaps find a Russian Billionaire with some friends and if it isn't too late, have David Stern laid into the foundation of the Brooklyn Arena, Hoffa style. That is total Male Cow excrement. To do it this late...why???? Was it a holiday yesterday....oh yeah, church for Stern. It is totally unfair for Stern and his Mary-Men to give out such a strong penalty on such short notice. We've heard of "The Jordan Rules"...well, there has been "The Laker Rules", where Stern tries to put every obstacle in front of them to prevent them from succeeding. 2 Games is unfair, the short notice is unfair. The Lakers should channel their anger about this and destroy their opponents in the last games of the season. Bynum should write a letter to Stern and ask "Are you serious", which I believe is what he received a technical/ejection for back in January asking a ref after a foul. I believe that Stern realizes the importance of Bynum to the Lakers and their chance to 3-Peat, and for Phil to get his 4th 3-Peat. Stern has always been harder on the Lakers, PJ, and Kobe (thru the Zebras).
(08) EDWIN GUECO – JUDGE/JURY/STERN EXECUTIONER - Drew Bynum has grown up fast with that fine and suspension. Now he is aware the boundaries of toughness. Beasley was not a perfect individual either because previous to that hard foul, he was getting into the nerves of Artest and Barnes, so Drew did the pay back.
(09) DOUBLESSMAN - David Stern operates like Mugabe a dictator, if that is a 2 game suspension then dwight howard, garnet will miss half the season, this sucks, but then again david stern wants the heat to win
(10) JON K. - Two games is ridiculous.
(11) JQ - Not the end of the world. 2 instances of poor judgement on a hard foul in 6 years. let's not overreact. rest up the knees and ankle big guy.
(12) MAMBA24 – Damn you Darth Stern!! DAMN YOU!!!
(13) LAKERMIKE - 1. Stern seeking to help Lakers prep for playoffs, giving Drew a couple of games off to rest that knee. Sneaky move on his part. Rumor has it that the delayed announcement (no word on Saturday) was due to Stern's underlings checking to see when Lakers next play Memphis. Seems the Commisioner was eyeing that as one of the games Drew might miss. Such a thoughtful commissioner.
(14) REDLANDS DODGER FAN - I see where the NBA office gave Aaron Brooks a one game suspension for throwing a ball at the official and hitting him on the leg. I guess the NBA office wants Brooks ready for the lakers on tuesday. Drew should have received a one game suspension rather than two.
(15) LAKERSFAN - EVERYBODY SAYING "HOPE HE LEARNS FROM THIS" HELLO!! ITS NOT LIKE HE DOES THIS EVERY GAME!! C'MON!
(16) KOBEAYASHIMARUE - 2 games is total BS for that play. I was worried Stern had it out for the Laker's, now I know it's true. Same reason Kobe isn't getting calls and sent to the line this year...Stern wants the Cheat to rule in his universe.
(17) MCLYNE - I too am glad that Drew has not backed down to any trash talkers and has "protected" his fellow teammates. In the 80s, this would have been considered just a good foul and not even be considered as anything else than good, hard defense. If Beasly weren't trash talkin' all game long, than maybe this wouldn't have been warranted, but the dude had it coming to him all day!
(18) RICHARD - Bynum Suspension is a bummer and it sucks. Rudy Gay had a similar flagrant foul 2 and was suspended for 1 game..... why Bynum gets penalized for 2. dumb NBA office and Stu Jackson.
(19) DWNTWN ATTY - that play was beneath Bynum and beneath the Lakers. A cheap shot is the exact opposite of the toughness we want to see in the interior. I want to see bynum swat balls into the stands, not floor the opposing team's talent. All that said, flagrant 2 + 2 games seems severe. For example, last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyZ4vQ8_1Y was a flagrant 1.
(20) CLEMONT - Yes! Yes! Yessss! This is the best news the Lakers have had in a long time. Bynum is becoming an enforcer. Blooming into a defensive minded big man who will stop penetration with force. He is definitely not the wide eyed kid who first came into the league. Now if he can just stay healthy, he can be a key element in a successful threepeat.
(21) LAKERPEACE - That's fine...We have JOE SMITH...and AB can rest his knee for a week..Go Lakers!
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Dew's play of late has been a joy to watch. A young guy with a huge upside coming in to his own and catapulting LA back to championship form. Unfortunately the foul was uncalled for. A dangerous play resulting in injury is unbefitting to the class the Lakers personify. The suspension is no surprise. The paint can be protected and interior toughness established without crossing the line. Chalk it up to immaturity, Drews yet only 23. In spite of Beasley being an apparent chump you deal with guys like him without hurting yourself.

Medina,


You mentioned every factor but the most important one.


HOW WILL PHIL JACKSON ADJUST HIS GAMEPLAN IN BYNUM'S ABSENCE??

Clearly the advantage is NOT inside for the Lakers with Portland's bigs dominating Gasol in the past like a rag doll.

1) Phil Jackson will actually have to coach tonight if the Lakers expect to win............he has to be willing to adjust the offense by coming out of the triangle especially if Gasol is rendered ineffective in the post and unable to attract double teams...............which is very likely.

2) Kobe has shot poorly lately but that's the "what"..............the "why" is far more important if the Lakers hope to defeat Portland tonight without Bynum.

3) The "Why"..................When was the last time Kobe has had clean looks as a result of the offense? Phil needs to make Kobe the primary focus of the offense tonight by running a lot more off the ball action for Kobe...........on double screen downs and curls in the lane in an attempt to create space for Kobe to get looks or create offense for his teammates. Most times it seems Phil is doing the exact opposite...........actually believeing it's the system thats creating shots and not the talent.....................This flawed philosophy of Phil's will be on full display tonight...............I hope he can adjust.

4) I thought LeMarcus Aldridge deserved the all-star bid over Gasol this season and I believe Aldridge is the better player...............Gasol will have to play to an all-star level on offense and defense if the Lakers are to have a chance tonight.............Gasol has a lot to prove tonight as there is still a possibilty the Lakers may see Portland in the playoffs.............


5) Limit Fisher's minutes tonight as he will be overmatched trying to contain Andre Miller's penetration.............pg play is the Lakers achilles heel mainly because Phil plays Fisher too much............I would like to see Blake step up tonight especially because this is a team with whom he's very familiar

Portland tonight will be very tough without AB...GO LAKERS

Pfunk - I think the Phil thing goes without saying and is addressed with how Pau has to change his role as does the Lamar and the bench.

@G. Money, if you don't want to read the entire medical article, scroll down to "Blunt Trauma" and you'll find the discussion of clothesline injuries.

KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM,"

@Laker Tom - You make some excellent points and I agree with all of them. Your comments reflect some of my sentiments in the last factor in which I don't think Bynum's foul was justified but it will still do wonders from a toughness standpoint


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"COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF THE BEAST" BE AFRAID NBA, BE VERY AFRAID -
BANDWAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(01) THE TRIANGULATOR – OWNER - How About Starting a "COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF THE BEAST" BANDWAGON? IF Drew's foul warranted a 2 game suspension, THEN McHale's close line warranted him being banned from the Hall of Fame...“

(22) ROCKY - That was the sweetest flagrant foul I've ever seen. Bynum just gave that stare too, like you aint coming in here like that. Then, Lamar was right there having Bynum's back when it was Bynum who put the hurt on. It was a beautiful display of comraderie that a team like the Timberwolves has no chance against. Bynum's willingness too lay out a Micheal Beasley sends a clear message to everyone in the NBA. The Beast means business. Don't come weak in the paint when Andrew Bynum is on the floor. I am loving what I'm seeing right now from the Lakers.
(23) RON - Dew's play of late has been a joy to watch. A young guy with a huge upside coming in to his own and catapulting LA back to championship form. Unfortunately the foul was uncalled for. A dangerous play resulting in injury is unbefitting to the class the Lakers personify. The suspension is no surprise. The paint can be protected and interior toughness established without crossing the line. Chalk it up to immaturity, Drews yet only 23. In spite of Beasley being an apparent chump you deal with guys like him without hurting yourself.

This just in!
David Stern has retroactively ejected Kevin McHale from Game 4 and suspended him from Games 5 & 6 of the 1984 Finals. Lakers win in 5!

Dew's play of late has been a joy to watch. A young guy with a huge upside coming in to his own and catapulting LA back to championship form. Unfortunately the foul was uncalled for. A dangerous play resulting in injury is unbefitting to the class the Lakers personify. The suspension is no surprise. The paint can be protected and interior toughness established without crossing the line. Chalk it up to immaturity, Drews yet only 23. In spite of Beasley being an apparent chump you deal with guys like him without hurting yourself. Posted by: Ron | March 20, 2011 at 02:46 PM
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Very good post sir...Carry On!

Kudo, to Medina for a great analysis of this situation. I would like to add one thing though. Good Centers in the NbA have to endure a tremendous amount of punishment on a daily basis because refs do not call all the hacks and cheap shots put on them in the post by the opposing team. Time after time I have watched non-call against Shaq when he was here and now Bynum, and Howard of Orlando. Shots which would be a foul or even a flagrant, (no effort made on the ball) were done too a player at another position. I can see why these guys get frustrated at the double-standard. It's a wonder they don't blown up more often, and it's fortunate because a truly pissed off, out of control 7 footer would not be a good thing to see on a TV broadcast.

This just in! David Stern has retroactively ejected Kevin McHale from Game 4 and suspended him from Games 5 & 6 of the 1984 Finals. Lakers win in 5!
Posted by: spliff johnson | March 20, 2011 at 02:58 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bronxlakerfan said it truthfully. There's a difference between playing tough & playing dirty. I could take out any of the pros if they're in the air and believe me, I'm no athlete. Willingness to play dirty sounds like a NHL goon to me and I think the NBA deserves better. I like talent over cheap shots that could end careers. Next time, and there will be for Bynum, I hope they consider ending his career.

Hey all you Lakersholics,

First, that was a flagrant foul 2 by young Mr. Bynum. That was not a basketball play, that was not an attempt to block a shot. He took Beasley out of the air with an upper-body check, no attempt to wrap him up or prevent the release of the shot, let alone cushion the fall, etc. Suspended one game, two games, whatever the fine might be, you can argue all you want. It was a cheap shot. If that happened to a Blazer, I'd want my biggest man on the court to confront Bynum to let him know that won't be tolerated. (Hey, Kobe, when you going to the hoop next?)

Second, the suspension does make tonight's game a toss up. With Bynum, the Lakers are the better team. Without him, the Blazers have enough talent to cause the Lakers problems on both ends of the floor.

Should be a great game. Wish I was there or had the time to actually watch it. But that's why man invented the DVR, thankfully.

Enjoy the game. But there should be no complaining by Bynum in placing blame.

The Triangulator - Dude...I respect your opionion on the clotheline subject, what I'm saying is Bell's takedown on Kobe was a HARD foul out of Frustration. Drew's foul appear to be taking up for his team, namely Ron. Beasley was just getting the BEST of him, when Drew decided to be an ENFORCER. BTW, Drew and Bell's foul could have been career ending.

Dan - Well said. I think a one-game suspension is appropriate enough. A two-game suspension seems a bit much, but Andrew shouldn't have put himself in that situation where the league is dictating his playing status. The Lakers must learn to make it a positive out of the situation. Again, I don't agree that they see Bynum's foul as simply a hard foul, but they definitely need an edge and toughness in the postseason. This might be the beginning of sharpening that identity even more.

@G. Money

And that's the point. We're not arguing that it wasn't a flagrant two. What we're saying is that two games is excessive considering previous non-suspensions and one game suspensions (such as Raja Bell's clothesline of Kobe) that have come in the past in the shadows of dangerous fouls.

KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM!"

Stone_icon- Dude or Dudette, Shaq did reach that breaking point against Sactown. When he through a HAY MAKER or a WIDOW MAKER at their center Brad Miller. Lucky for Miller he MISSED, would have been UGLY.

The Triangulator - Point well made, I can see that.

Well, either way, I can see the point.

not that i agree with bynum flagrant foul, BUT maybe beasley learned his lesson against woofing at the Lakers. from what i've read and heard, beasley was talking SMACK all night. so, i'm guessing 'drew and company had had ENOUGH of it! what really amazes me, why would you be talking smack against the world champs, especially when you've won only 17 freaking games this year! talk is cheap, wins are expensive!

Well true there is no justification to what Bynum did, but the punishment is also unjustified for two games and half (including the expulsion from Minny's game). As I said, next time Bynum will be smarter than just going for a hard bump on an oncoming shooter. However, others said that he had now created a reputation of a hip buster in the league which is not really advisable. He hurt himself as well as the team with this suspension. You can create a reputation of toughness without bullying anyone. Will I choose a tough player over a smart player? No way, jose basketball can be played on both ends because of the over riding emotions and trash talking, a smart player knows how to react and shut up with a good game. A player who loses his cool or head gets into suspension, fines and tweaks the team's rhythm of chain of W's because the great one, Kobe is just a half player of his real self due to aches and pains.

When there are short term suspensions, injuries that's when we need our bench players. Unfortunately, PJ never develops a good bench, he lets them accumulate some cobwebs sitting around. So in times of need, they cannot be relied on or zero confidence. Oh I wish we still have DJ Mbenga but that part belongs to the past.

Pfunk - I think the Phil thing goes without saying and is addressed with how Pau has to change his role as does the Lamar and the bench.

Posted by: Mark Medina | March 20, 2011 at 02:50 PM


Medina,

With all due respect this statement suggest you are not a very good student of history when it comes to Phil Jackson.

When it comes to his beloved triangle Phil Jackson is one of the most illogical people to ever live..................I can remember in Feb. of 02' ...........when Jordan's Wizard's were in town for the first time and Shaq was out injured.............You would ASSUME without saying that naturally Phil would adjust the offense and tailor it more for Kobe..........right? WRONG!

Phil's instructions to the team was to enter the ball into the post 40 -45 times in the triangle...........although it was now MARK MADSON and SAMAKI WALKER in the post. Suffice it say the Lakers fell behind by as much as 20 points early in the 3rd quarter before Phil relented and swallowed his large ego and began taking advantage of "the talent" and ran the offense through Kobe.........better late than never as Kobe scored 18 of his 23 points in the 2nd half.

The lesson? When you're dealing with Phil Jackson.........don't assume anything


Check it out for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2d3nEO0Lk

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=220212013


"Out of all our disciplines..........history is best qualified to reward your efforts"

spliff, that was too funny. yeah, where was stern when mchale closelined our superman, clark kent rambis??? wtf

Posted on the "Forum Blue and Gold" blog by Darius Soriano..

All that said, I hope Bynum learns from this. I hope he learns that he must play big, but must also play smart. That he can give a hard foul, but must do so within the context of playing the game not with a frustrated shove that’s a danger to other players and to his own team. Because with Bynum’s embracing of his new role as a defensive anchor comes a greater responsibility to actually be there for his team. He’s no longer an extra piece to the puzzle but a main part in which his absence can make all the difference. So as he sits and watches his team in these next two games, I hope he examines all of this and comes back as focused and ready to play as ever. Odds are, he’ll see how much his team needs him.

I think that Mr. Soriano sums it up succinctly and correctly. Andrew put his team in a bad situation with that foul and it's all about team and the ultimate prize.

This has turned into a P_$$y league because Darth Stearn has no interest in protecting bigs - just his overhyped star of the moment (re: James', Duncan's), unless, of course, that star was not personally sanctioned by him (re: Kobe Bean Bryant!) in advance. Amazing how the Shaq's, Howard's Bynum's of this current NBA can be held to a MUCH higher standard for tolerance and uncalled fouls against them just because of their size!!! Stearn likes to protect his fellow meek munchkins....not the giants (size) of the game.

The cheap shot artist formerly known as Andrew Bynum gets two games off? Thats not a penalty! Thats exactly what he wants! I bet theres a party at Playboy mansion tonite!!

If the NBA wanted to punish him ... they shoulda made him play all 48 the next two games!!

He'd never go Ronnie Lott on anybody again!!

The cheap shot artist formerly known as Andrew Bynum gets two games off? Thats not a penalty! Thats exactly what he wants! I bet theres a party at Playboy mansion tonite!! Posted by: 131-92 | March 20, 2011 at 04:06 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the NBA wanted to punish him ... they shoulda made him play all 48 the next two games!! He'd never go Ronnie Lott on anybody again!! Posted by: 131-92 | March 20, 2011 at 04:09 PM
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You're on a Roll 131!! LOL!!!

This has turned into a P_$$y league because Darth Stearn has no interest in protecting bigs - just his overhyped star of the moment (re: James', Duncan's), unless, of course, that star was not personally sanctioned by him (re: Kobe Bean Bryant!) in advance. Amazing how the Shaq's, Howard's Bynum's of this current NBA can be held to a MUCH higher standard for tolerance and uncalled fouls against them just because of their size!!! Stearn likes to protect his fellow meek munchkins....not the giants (size) of the game. Posted by: NuggetsCountry | March 20, 2011 at 03:47 PM
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Nobody cries for Goliath!! Preach NuggetsCountry, Preach!!!! Down with the P_$$Y league?... I say AYE!!! Clotheslines for everyone!!! 131 Where is Kevin McHale with a good clothesline when you need one????

You're on a Roll 131!! LOL!!!

Posted by: mamba24 | March 20, 2011 at 04:18 PM

Whats up?? I hope youre not worried! The Lunatic wont let you down!!

131 Where is Kevin McHale with a good clothesline when you need one????
Posted by: mamba24 | March 20, 2011 at 04:23 PM

I guarantee you that if McHale woulda been in the game or on the bench instead of Rambis ... Kobe woulda been hung out to dry!!

"I guarantee you that if McHale woulda been in the game or on the bench instead of Rambis ... Kobe woulda been hung out to dry!!

Posted by: 131-92 | March 20, 2011 at 04:29 PM
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McHale was always a cheap shot artist, but Kobe is 10 times tougher than McHale ever was or imagined to be, so take your homer BS back to bean town and leave KB out of your insanity! I don't remember him being part of the play on Beasley or do you maybe have a different (hater) agenda...........?

>>>somebody see what Kevin Mchale thinks about the suspension....

You man Klotheslining Kevin? Who only got called for a foul for a much HARDER takedown on Rambis in the finals?

Back-in-the-day, when I had someone try to take out a couple of teeth or break a rib or two, in the context of the game, I just waited until they went up and planted an elbow to the solar plexis and watched them writh on out of the game. Or just put my foot under theirs as they came down (outside sprains are a BI_CH). Good times.........!

McHale was always a cheap shot artist, but Kobe is 10 times tougher than McHale ever was or imagined to be, so take your homer BS back to bean town and leave KB out of your insanity! I don't remember him being part of the play on Beasley or do you maybe have a different (hater) agenda...........?

Posted by: NuggetsCountry | March 20, 2011 at 04:41 PM

LOL ... I dont remember saying that Kobe was!!!

Are you wearing your reading glasses?

juat real fast..the last 3 yrs ive been telling everyone that stern is a clown..he is fascinated with ringlum bros. and wants to turn this league into a circus.. im so thrilled that im not alone on seeing what is happening to this game..the integrity is dismal. a game that is won and lost on momentum and pace is destroyed by clowns wearing pinstripes ( or gray-ish like) shirts with whistles in stead of horns and nba logos instead of make up. dont ever forget or doubt what you see and believe. thats what it is. im leaving you all with a fact of an example...last yr in the finals after game 3 doc rivers literaly got so discouraged by what fish did to them that he literaly went on espn and not only critisized the officiating but flat out called them blind. unfair and he wont let his team lose like that. THEN to make matters worse he went to the league officials office with three tapes in hand of nothing but the lakers of course fouling the celtics...mind you more than half of them were called..he simply said after wards." i just wanted to bring this to the attention of the commisioner"..guess what..no fine..no public scowling,,nothing..but when phil, or popo say anything in the lightest spirit regarding the refs..$10,000 all day..oh my bad and 5o,000 once too...and doc didnt include the ridiculous play of rondo ( who technically fouled out in the 2nd qtr) and garnett who fouled out in the 4th but really should have been out in the 3rd..lakeshow proved to be deserving back to back gods that only phil, mj, and kobe..etc..know how to be....( phil has never won just back to back or one ..he , mj, and kobe,,oh and fish and pippen are the only men that have won in three's only) think about this next time you get ridiculed for stating the blatant crime you are witnessing on espn wed. night basketball, or the playoffs..chances are you are right...got to go..lakeshow loyals i love you all...


in the film clip at 0:22 looks like Webster is nudging Ridnour (don't care) into Lamar, if he woulda bumped into Lamar, that mighta elevated the situation.....

You man Klotheslining Kevin? Who only got called for a foul for a much HARDER takedown on Rambis in the finals?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | March 20, 2011 at 04:43 PM

Much harder? LOL ... You mean(not man)Skywalker Rambis? He just fell over ... its not like he was up in the air!! LMAO

....sorry it was a nudge by webster of the guy into Barnes, who is probably one of the shortest fuses in the league....but I respect.

131-92....issues with Kobe??? You want someone to lay him out??? Come on, he resurrected his image to be probably the most favorite basketball player (active) in the world....and you want a muffintop assistant coach to come up to him from behind and take him out....hey, I think even Mahorn has settled down, we know Laimbeer is sane enough to be Rambis' assistant...but then again, not sure if being his assistant adds credibility.

131-92, go back to the dirt heap of a racist town Boston and enjoy your next 20 years of the lottery.

Mamba24,

you're right, Ronnie Lott was a hard hitter, I'm sure getting hit (tackled...which seemed to include a good impact all the time) hurt for a few days........

131-92....issues with Kobe??? You want someone to lay him out??? Come on, he resurrected his image to be probably the most favorite basketball player (active) in the world....and you want a muffintop assistant coach to come up to him from behind and take him out....hey, I think even Mahorn has settled down, we know Laimbeer is sane enough to be Rambis' assistant...but then again, not sure if being his assistant adds credibility.

Posted by: humanomaly | March 20, 2011 at 05:11 PM

I have no issue with Kobe. But just like in Baseball, you hit one of mine ... I hit 2 of yours. And usually you go after the star of the other team.

Do you think Bynum would care if Joe Smith got laid out for what he did?? He might if it was Kobe who got laid out!!

131-92, go back to the dirt heap of a racist town Boston and enjoy your next 20 years of the lottery.

Posted by: Lakers-17 | March 20, 2011 at 05:12 PM

Why the hostilities? Youre hurting my feelings!! Dont be made at me ... it was your cheap shot artist who committed the foul!! LOL

"This just in!
David Stern has retroactively ejected Kevin McHale from Game 4 and suspended him from Games 5 & 6 of the 1984 Finals. Lakers win in 5!

Posted by: spliff johnson | March 20, 2011 at 02:58 PM"

...what next, oh no, he's looking at Horry's shot...in '02 when Divac smacked it out to Horry, his hand was semi closed, punching the ball is a violation. They are going to replay the last 2.1 seconds again, they are looking for all the players involved.

...next he's going to go after Fisher's 0.4 shot.....

131-92,

Using baseball as an example may work for you, I think it's silly to plunk the next guy up after a homer. and about 50 other things. Baseball uniforms have changed alot through the years, at least they can still wear their BLING!!!!!

McHale was suspended for a year for that Joe Smith deal...geez, wonder if Joe's got one with the Lakers...Stern better get on that, after all, McHale was with the TWolves, the TWolves have done business with the Grizz, the Grizz have done deals with the Lakes, ... oh no!!!!!!!!! Maybe the Lakers are supposed to make the payoff!!!!!!!!

Peace, even to 131-92....

Andrew got at least an extra game of suspension because it's not the first time he's done this sort of thing. He's big, strong and fairly dangerous. Last time he did this sort of thing, Gerald Wallace, not a weak small man by any means, suffered a partial pneumothorax and was out for like 2 weeks.

The league is sending a message directly to AB17 here.

it a good thing if bynum take this time to get his knee drain or treatment on it that a week off his knee and treatment. it time for luke to step up and shoot we know he like to pass first but luke you is a all around ball player .

"He's big, strong and fairly dangerous"

Posted by: Benjamin | March 20, 2011 at 06:03 PM

The big men already got the message, take the beating and shut up......straight arm or unlocked elbow leaning against a guard determines a foul.....whacking a big man and watching to see how much it slows him down determines the foul....it's like a tranquilizer gun vs the elephant....well, elephant still moving, so must not have been enough....up the dose, shoot him again......

Peace to all....and that take down of Bell on Kobe was not a foul, it was assault, he clenched his fist, he was fired up, he grabbed kobe by the neck area.....pause.....kobe was in a vulnerable position, his back was arched from momentum, he was off his feet...Bell throws him to the wood....say Kobe is seriously hurt, say his back, his neck, his ankles, or knee...he wasn't, but if he were that would clearly have been assault. Anybody calling that good ol' tough bball hates Kobe and is a blind fool. Go to youtube and watch it, the angles....I tell you...Kobe should have just laid there for as long as he could, but he doesn't ever show weakness...he shows YOU can not get to him....Andrew Bynum is now the new Shaq!!! Stern does not like it....He wants that Jersey/Russian/Brooklyn think to work.....and now SacTown wants to go to Anaheim, I live 10 miles from there, drive past it everyday....it won't work...it'll just be same deal in anaheim....10 years too late...

trangulator and other newbies, you're right...too many newbies, let's screen them out, what do you say MM?????????????????????????????????????????

A hard foul is not going for the ball, ie. wrapping up, pushing off or throwing an opponent to the floor. It is NOT throwing an elbow at an opponents jaw while the opponent is in the air. I realize that this is a Lakers blog but wake up. Throwing an elbow and throwing a fist are one in the same and neither should be tolerated. (This isn't hockey). The two game suspension was a "gift!"

I find it interesting that no one seems to think that the 2-game suspension of Bynum is unreasonable. There is no other operating structure in the world that can randomly take $275,000 from a person without due process - in fact, there is only a handful of actual crimes that would merit such a serious settlement. I believe that from a players union perspective, the capricious ability of league owners (and especially the commissioner) to stifle free speech (referee criticism) and the things that just happen in the course of a game (Bynum's foul was clearly not a malicious intent to maim) to garner funds as the number 1 target - everything else is secondary for such well paid professionals.


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