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Looking at the various scenarios for the Lakers to secure home-court advantage against San Antonio and/or Dallas

The Lakers would rather avoid engaging in this exercise, knowing that winning games will quell any uncertainty about their standing in the Western Conference. But with the Lakers (53-20) trailing the San Antonio Spurs (57-17) by 3 1/2 games for first place in the conference and holding a one-game lead over the Dallas Mavericks (52-21) for second place with nine games remaining, it sure is tempting to see what needs to happen for everything to fall into place. That's why the intrigue surrounding Thursday's game against Dallas remains pretty obvious. Not only would a win give the Lakers a needed cushion against the Mavericks, it could close the gap against the Spurs if San Antonio can't end a four-game losing streak Thursday against Boston.

"Whatever is going to happen is going to happen," Lakers forward Pau Gasol said. "The thing we have to keep in mind is continue to play well and continue to win. If that means we catch them and pass them, great. If it doesn't, we move on."

It' s understandable that the Lakers don't want to pay attention to the various scenarios to secure home-court advantage against both San Antonio and Dallas, but surely Lakers fans want to know what it would take. Below the jump is a detailed rundown on what would need to happen.

Lakers' remaining schedule: Dallas (Thursday), at Utah (Friday), Denver (Sunday), Utah (April 5), at Golden State (April 6), at Portland (April 8), Oklahoma City (April 10), San Antonio (April 12), at Sacramento (April 13)

Record vs. San Antonio: 1-2

Skinny on San Antonio: The Lakers would have home-court advantage over San Antonio if L.A. finishes with a better record, but the Spurs still have a 3 1/2 game lead in the standings. That means the Lakers would need to win at least four of their nine remaining games, while the Spurs would need to lose at least three of their last eight games. That would leave the Lakers and Spurs with identical records. Should the teams finish with the same regular season record, the Lakers have a slight chance to finish with home-court advantage regardless of head-to-head match-ups because they won the Pacific Division, which is the first tie-breaker before head-to-head match-ups. This scenario is unlikely because the Spurs have a 4 1/2 game lead over Dallas in the division with eight games remaining.

Should both teams finish with the same record and clinch their respective divisions, the Spurs would secure home court with a win over the Lakers April 12. If the Lakers tie the regular-season series and the two teams finish with identical records, the Lakers would have the edge in division match-ups, the next criteria to measure in tie-breaking scenarios. The Lakers are 11-3 against teams in their own division and have two remaining games against Pacific Division opponents, Golden State and Sacramento, meaning the Lakers would have to lose both of those games to lose their advantage in this scenario. That's because the Spurs are currently 10-5 against teams in the Southwest Division. Should it come down to this scenario, the Spurs would have to beat Houston on April 1, the only remaining game that features against a Southwest Division opponent.

The easier solution for the Lakers would obviously entail finishing with more regular-season wins than San Antonio. For that to happen, a few scenarios would have to occur. The Lakers would have to win at least five of their last nine games, while the Spurs lose their remaining eight. Or the Lakers would have to win all of their remaining games, while the Spurs would have to lose at least four of their last eight. Or the Lakers' and Spurs' records would have to coincide respectively like this: (8-1, 3-5), (7-2, 2-6), (6-3, 1-7).The Spurs' remaining games feature only three playoff teams, Boston (Thursday), the Atlanta Hawks (April 5) and the Lakers (April 12).  

Record vs. Dallas: 1-1

The skinny on Dallas : The Lakers view their game Thursday against Dallas as having extra importance, knowing they hold a slim one-game lead over the Mavericks for second place in the West. A Dallas win would give the Mavericks a 2-1 regular-series lead over the Lakers, but that doesn't mean Dallas would have home-court advantage if the two teams finished with the same record. That's because the Lakers have already clinched the Pacific Division and that's more important than head-to-head match-ups. The Mavericks would have to surpass San Antonio to clinch the Southwest Division. Because the Spurs hold a 4 1/2 game lead over Dallas, this scenario likely won't happen. But if it did, it's safe to presume the Lakers and Dallas would be then competing for the first and second seeds.

-- Mark Medina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

 
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Wow the Cavs beat the Heat, as well as the Lakers and Celtics earlier this season.

For being a bad team, they've had some trophy wins this year.

Cavs victory just reinforces the cliche...on any given day. Kudos to the Cavs and the city of Cleveland. It's good to see the celebrate if only for one night.

Bay

I'm a little disturbed by some of ur recent kobe for mvp exchanges with 888.... I sense a little unhealthy kobe hate festering in ur system just bulging at the seams. I could be wrong so just needed some further clarification of whether I should classify you as a kobe hater or not

But first let's keep that season in perspective...

Kobe lead a team consisting of smush cook mihm and luke to 45 wins and into the playoffs.. To me that's way more impressive than nash 54 wins with guys like marion bell and diaw all on their primes.. Now that's only a 4.5 game difference... But I'm afraid ur right about the unwritten win mvp rule... Its a sham.. I just hope ur not implying u agree with it... Some highlights of that magical season by kobe:

-- kobe avg a ridiculous 35.4 pts a game... Even big wilt only did it 5 times in his era n jordan only twice and won mvp one of those years

-- had 81 pt game!! U would think case closed.

-- scored over 40 pts 21 freakin times!

-- scored over 50 pts 6X... Not to mention his ridiculous 62 pts in 3qtrs against dallas

-- led his team to playoffs including 50 pts in round 1 against phoenix

-- he also avg almost 5 assts 5 rbs 2 stls in 41 minutes per game.

All that and that year I remember him getting ripped by the media night n night out for being selfish and a ballhog... Writers were so busy hating that year they forgot to appreciate what they were witnissing.... Even bill simmons the biggest kobe hater of all wrote a piece saying kobe got robbed. And to think that year he finished FOURTH in the MVP voting behind nash, nowitzki, and lecrab.. And barely beat out chauncey freakin billups!!

So yes the nba voting that year was a sham just like many other years and its goes way beyond the ridiculous unwritten 50 win rule and NO I completely disagree with ur assertion that it was better for the long run!!!

Lakers don't need HC against the Spurs...so it really doesn't matter.


Funny stuff by PJ when asked about Fish being one of the top floppers in the league. It's definitely worth listening to.

@Lew – Blackbird – great selection for Pau. Not to be confused with Blue bird, right! Anyway love the meaning behind Blackbird…Paul said he wrote it for brothers dealing with the struggle to overcome racism.

@Edwin – Coming with a little newer school to mix with your old school. A definite classic by Enrique.

@fever – Kobe was robbed in 2006. Excellent presentation!

Great Job, Byron Scott!!!


Lew - Thanks for the best wishes on the FBB championship. It's going to be tough!

LRob - I agree. I thought the PJ bit was funny about Fisher's flopping.

It's interesting to notice that if the Lakers win the #1 seed in the West, they may have to play the #4 seed OKC in the 2nd round. I'd rather the Lakers play against Dallas than OKC in the 2nd round. And if SA gets #1 and OKC #4, then I believe OKC will win the series...So it could be easier for the Lakers to be in #2 seed, but to make sure they get the better records than any of the East teams to get HCA if the Lakers advance to the Finals...

LakerPeace, I think the Lakers owe it to themselves, their fans, and everyone in the assocation to do their best in trying to secure HCA throughout, and then take on all comers at full strength, whoever they may be.
The tougher the road, the better - the greater the spoils.
Bring it!

As Kevin Ding tweeted earlier today, of the 4 previous times in NBA history that a team went 15-1 after the All-Star break, 3 went on to win the NBA Championship (2 were Phil Jackson coached teams). Frankly, if the Lakers played opossum and went 5-4 the rest of the way in, that would be fine with me. Lure the first round opponent into a false sense of security and then go for their throat! This squad knows EXACTLY what it is capable of in a 7 game series RIGHT NOW!

Give me the PLAYOFFS already!

Jefe,

I got a sneaky suspicion that Dr. Buss would agree with you. HCA = more home games = more money = easier justification on spending on player salaries. Dr. Buss = best NBA owner!

I don't think your math is right about the Lakers and Spurs.
The Lakers are 53-20, the Spurs are 57-17.
If the Lakers win only 4 of their remaining 9, they would finish 57-25. They would tie with the Spurs if the Spurs lost ALL their remaining games. By winning 5 of 9 as you proposed, the Spurs would only need to win 2 out of 8 to have the better record.

The most wins the Lakers can have is 62. The Spurs can tie that by winning 5 out of 8. So catching the Spurs still requires them to continue to fall apart in a big way while the Lakers need to be almost perfect.

Jefe01,

I totally agree with you!!!

I was just saying what I noticed now that I didn't think of before. I thought in ironical way that #2 seed could be an easier path to the Finals than #1 seed. The Lakers are the best team now, and with healthy Bynum for the first time in the playoffs, NO team will beat the Lakers 4 times in a playoff series.

Yes, I only see two games that are conceivably loseable by the Spurs.

The Lakers need to win out, which will be monumental because they have 3 back-to-backs with the second games at Utah (after huge Dallas game - gulp), at Golden State (trap after Utah game), at Sacramento (after huge San Antonio game).

So, even if the Lakers somehow win out, the Spurs have to lose 4 games out of 8! Not happening.

All this talk about HCA and championships really got LBJ going. He finally got the "gonads" to ask Kobe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Humfsis-QLI

"We're worried about our execution. That's all we did then and that's all we'll do now." #24 K. Bryant


"Everything about the Lakers is geared toward winning playoff games. It's what they do." J.A. Adande


"Even when we didn’t make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss


Go Lakers & In Buss We Trust!!

Let's take a look at SA's remaining schedule: possible 4 wins and 5 loses

Thu, Mar 31 vsBoston (L) (Go Celtics! WOW, I dont believe this!)
Apr 1 @Houston 8:30 PM (L): (back to back game with Houston needs to win for its playoff hope)
Sun, Apr 3 vsPhoenix (W)
Tue, Apr 5 @Atlanta (L) (tough eastern road game)
Wed, Apr 6 vsSacramento (W)
Sat, Apr 9 vsUtah (W)
Tue, Apr 12 @Los Angeles (L) (Sure game to lose)
Wed, Apr 13 @Phoenix (L?) back to back road..depends on how phoenix will stand at this point..they may out of or fighting for playoffs.

The most wins the Lakers can have is 62. The Spurs can tie that by winning 5 out of 8. So catching the Spurs still requires them to continue to fall apart in a big way while the Lakers need to be almost perfect.

Posted by: 40-year fan | March 29, 2011 at 08:41 PM
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Not worth it. Give me HEALTH and PREPAREDNESS over too many minutes for the starters.

Oops, 3 wins and 5 loses

NuggsCountry - I totally agree with you. As nice as it would be to win out, it's not happening. And even if a minor miracle occurs and we do, SA won't be losing 4 out of the next 8. #2 in the west is right where we want to be.

Aloha,

There is all this talk about can the Lakers catch the Spurs. The better question is, do we want to? If we secure the second seed, we would play Dallas in the second round, while the Spurs would play the Thunder. Now that the Thunder has added the missing size and toughness inside to their squad, I really believe that they are the biggest threat to the Lakers. I also think that the Thunder will knock the Spurs off in the 2nd round.

2nd seed in the west and highest seed for the finals is what we need to worry about. Catching the Spurs, not so much.

MH

"2nd seed in the west and highest seed for the finals is what we need to worry about. Catching the Spurs, not so much."

MH

Posted by: michael H | March 29, 2011 at 09:30 PM

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That's exactly right! The team is playing for HCA in The Finals because they're assuming right along with the rest of us, that they WILL be coming out of the West and that's what the remainder of this Lakers season is all about!

"We're worried about our execution. That's all we did then and that's all we'll do now." #24 K. Bryant


"Everything about the Lakers is geared toward winning playoff games. It's what they do." J.A. Adande


"Even when we didn’t make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss


Go Lakers & In Buss We Trust!!

It is interesting how the standings are bunching up at the top. Lakers have a real shot at best record in the league because the Spurs are decimated by injuries. HCA in the West is not as important as it is over the East, the last 2 years have proven that.

On the Kobe for MVP debate- of course he was screwed out of a couple, but a lot of that was backlash from the Colorado incident no doubt.

I don't think Kobe can win it this year for one reason, his last game against Miami with the game on the line he actually looked human and a lot of attention was made of it. Fickle media types really didn't dwell on how bad Lebron or Wade played only that kobe had a couple of turnovers in crunch time.

If somehow the Lakers win out or end the "Regular Season" with the best record Kobe still has an outside chance.

It's also possible that OKC will catch up Dallas to earn #2 seed, then the Lakers better get #1 seed. LOL..

I meant to say "OKC will catch up Dallas to earn #3 seed," not #2 seed

Hey I corrected the math so it's now accurate.

@LakerPeace - You bring up an interesting point and I actually agree with it. I think it'd help the Lakers to get HCA over San Antonio simply because both teams are evenly matched. Even if it's conceivable one would get a road win over the other, the more tools the Lakers have to their advantage, the better. At the same time, I completely agree with you that it's better for the Lakers to match up with Oklahoma City than Dallas. Even with the Mavericks doing well, I'm still not convinced they won't fall flat in the postseason

Michael H, how are you doing there in the middle of the Pacific ocean? Are u being threatened by nuclear fallout? I hope everything is OK or else we could have heard it already in the news. Living in HI is a very expensive proposition because too far from the mainland. Well, we are here in LA attached to the mainland but I think we are paying the highest gas price in the pumps because of Gadhafi et al or just a ploy by the oil companies to engage in further gouging the gullible I-love-my-SUV owners. lol! Isn't it exciting we're in the best spot for the playoffs i.e. IF we will stay course, the favorite quotation of "W". You know what, I think the optimism of LT was spot on, and was able to convince the Good Lord to become a GHF Laker fan because of his sunshine posts. Who will guess that Boston, Orlando, Chicago, Miami and San Antonio would all lose in two days time while Lakers are on R&R mode. Again, no more reset button on the switch, PJ should sit on it.

Lew, thanks for offering your private online address on the blog just to reach me. I just sent u an email padre.

Diandra, thanks for the props. You are also one hell of a blogger, a great addition in the blog.

MM, I hope you will guide me on the GSnap registration by emailing me what I need to do. I hope it is not tedious in asking lots of info. We are not really akin to privacy but ever sinc our cards and ss# have been compromised in the recent past, we became hostile in giving away too much information. Would u all believe nothing is secret anymore, my classmate in the Philippines told me that hackers over there could access all our information for the amount of $ 5. only. Scary, isn't it?

Yeah the reason why kobe got robbed in mvp in 2006 was because of his own actions in the playoffs against the suns. la was up 3-1. He responded by criticism of his number of shots by not shooting at all in a crucial games. kobe is a great player but is too selfish. i thought he would change that in his older years but i was wrong. I wonder what happened to mamba24. True he was a bit annoying with his 100% optimistic chants but he has his place. With priest, the great one, being the unquestioned and unchallenged leader of this blog all are welcomed to express their views evem the mud and hobbit err i mean the dumb and ignorant. People thinks that the priest rules with an iron fist but actually i am a warm and fuzzy guy. Except of course when someone like sean is foolish enough to challenge the priest intellectually. That was a mistake.

Well, maybe OKC can overtake the Mavs during the season but I doubt if they can beat them in a playoff round especially if Caron B will play in the 2nd round. Mavs have the experience while OKC have the youthful exuberance and a gutsy steal on their Center Perks and Nazr. The question is were they able to attain the chemistry needed to win in 7 round series? In NBA, it takes time to fraternize, harmonize and also win during clutch moments. I still believe Mavs, SA and Nuggets are the most dangerous teams that Lakers will face in the West because of their coaching staff and experienced players.

Dude...I hate to be the one to say this, your team is PEAKING to soon. It's still practice season and now you're talking about catching the Spurs. What a FLIP FLOP from a bunch of FICKLE Lakerholic, first the regular season don't mean CRAP....now it means EVERYTHING. Make up your MIND...dude and dudettes. But seriously, they may be heading for a FLAMEOUT by the second round. The HEAT will make the FINALS, not s0 sure the LAKE SHOW will be there.

MM,

"I completely agree with you that it's better for the Lakers to match up with Oklahoma City than Dallas. Even with the Mavericks doing well, I'm still not convinced they won't fall flat in the postseason"

Did you just contradict yourself?

In my book, we're better off playing the Mavs - but I think should the Lakers run the table and manage to take best record in the league, I don't see how they could deny Kobe another MVP

I sorta feel bad that I brought up the MVP topic last week... geez, we went all season without discussing it (first time ever) mostly because we care more about titles and because no one would have thought he could be in the hunt... that is, until the Lakers started winning again.

Cleveland Cavaliers need this victory badly against their favorite son who left Akron to seek the greener pasture elsewhere, came back as a virtual ghost of the past without any sensitivity of helping his own hometown. It's all about money and fame for him. Now that prodigal airhead son learned his lesson that on any given day if your team don't show up, any bottom dweller team like the Cavaliers could beat the hell out of you. Look at the box score of the Heat, only four guys James, Wade, Bibby and Bosh (only 10 pts.) were shooting the ball while the rest of the team are all spectators or ball carriers. They accused Kobe of ball hog and failed to evaluate their own team. As I said in the beginning, Cleveland needs this victory badly, they were hoping for their No. 1 team Ohio State in the NCAA unfortunately got eliminated. It destroys the notion that their state is a loser, I'm also happy for Byron Scott and owner, Mr. Gilbert redeemed their stymied performance while Byron a Showtime player can still wiggle if cornered by fangs of multiple superstars. They were able to beat the best teams in NBA.

The day the "Priest" is the undisputed leader of the blog is the day hell freezes over, dogs and cats live together, the Heaven's Gate cult members come back to tell everyone "I told you so!", they finally transmute Lead into to Gold, and the Clippers win the championship....don't even compare yourself to Mamba24, you couldn't hold a candle to the Blogfather.

g phoney is still on this blog nut-riding the heat. she only has 9 more games left because we all know when they play any playoff team they dont stand a chance in 7. i could go on but its pointless seeing how everyone except miami residents know that miami fans are the only fans that have no loyalty. so keep doing manicures and dressing like a woman, cause when ur beloved team gets bumped by the bucks u will still need ur corner job...

Cap's Googles,

We regard the priest with utmost respect for they are supposed to be man of God. It is commonly said, you just listen to what a priest say during his sermon but don't follow what he does in life. huh!

I grew up under the tutelage of monks of the Benedictine order and have known a lot of priest from grade school to professional life, my own brother in law is a priest in the Salesian order so I am familiar with their lifestyle and activities. They have a busy schedule and they won't spend time on the blog dissing Kobe intermittently . I think our Island Priest is using this handle to attract attention. I still don't believe he is a priest by the true sense of the word or else, by this time he could have forgiven and absolved the sins of Kobe.

when island priest talks people listen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIVttyxPxnE

Aloha Edwin,

I am doing well. And I hope all is well with you. I still drop by the blog quite a bit, just haven't posted much for a while. I think you are right, we are in a very good spot right now. It has really came together. Just hoping the Bulls drop a few more games because Boston and Miami can't catch us. Great hearing from you. Aloha for now.

MH

Edwin - a brother in law with the Salesian order huh? I went to Salesian High School over on Soto. Small world indeed :)

Yello- I couldn't have said it better myself. Leave it to Ace to tell it like it is :)

G.Money, before you make your mind boggling comment, make sure your Heat come out in the East. Your team has a lot of things to take care off before they can strut their wares...the Lakers, dude we have been in the Finals for 3 consecutive seasons....our team does need to prove anything....we are in the driving seat not your team....Lakers 3 peat and beyond...

yellofever,

I can just see how the voters voted the way they did. It's not a perfect system but I think they've been consistent with it.

In 2008, Kobe's PTS/AST/REB wasn't ahead of LeBron's but his team record was. The team record rule probably lost him at least one MVP between 2006 and 2007 but it guaranteed him the award in 2008.

The MVP award doesn't say who the best player is. A player can put up the same numbers every year and be the runaway favorite one year and hardly even receive any votes the next depending on what the players around him are doing. As much as they say the MVP is an individual award, it isn't.

HCA Throughout the Playoffs? It's Alright With Me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxUj2fKFX7A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But, However You Slice It! NOW's THE TIME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWjYMGI3DM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

KOBE BEAN BRYANT IS "THE LOGO OF PROFESSIONALISM!"

"AND THE BEAST GOES ON..."

this doesn't sound right does it??

Skinny on San Antonio: The Lakers would have home-court advantage over San Antonio if it finishes with a better record, but the Spurs still have a 3 1/2 game lead over them in the standings. That means the Lakers would need to win at least four of their nine remaining games, while the Spurs would need to lose at least three of their last eight games. That would leave the Lakers and Spurs with identical records.

G. Money

yes, there is a possibility the Lakers are peaking too soon but unlike last year they are healthy heading into the playoffs.
The only reason anyone is talking about catching the Spurs is because they are stumbling badly down the stretch not unlike some top eastern teams. A week ago it was a foregone conclusion the Lakers were playing for second seed in the west and hoping to pass Boston and Chicago.
A lot can happen in a week, next week Miami could have the best record in the east. Last nights game against Cleveland didn't help the cause any.
Did you hear that Lebron's entourage wasn't allowed in the garage and that the owner of the Cavs tweeted "not in our garage". Now thats funny you have to admit. Gotta give credit to Cleveland they might not have won many games this year but they have beaten the Celtics, Lakers, and Heat. The fans in Cleveland just have to be giddy.

The day the "Priest" is the undisputed leader of the blog is the day hell freezes over, dogs and cats live together, the Heaven's Gate cult members come back to tell everyone "I told you so!", they finally transmute Lead into to Gold, and the Clippers win the championship....don't even compare yourself to Mamba24, you couldn't hold a candle to the Blogfather. Posted by: Cap's Goggles (83-79) | March 29, 2011 at 11:55 PM

The day the "Priest" is the undisputed leader of the blog is the day hell freezes over, dogs and cats live together, the Heaven's Gate cult members come back to tell everyone "I told you so!", they finally transmute Lead into to Gold, and the Clippers win the championship....don't even compare yourself to Mamba24, you couldn't hold a candle to the Blogfather. Posted by: Cap's Goggles (83-79) | March 29, 2011 at 11:55 PM

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So nice, I had to post it twice! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Glad those issues among Lakers fans 'slash' LAT bloggers has been put to rest....

KUDOS TO YOU GUYS!!!! You know who you are.

As LEW said, looks like we are coming into form like our team in time for the PLAYOFFS!!! Let's do this!


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Sorry G.Money...

We, i mean US, are peaking at the right time. Engine's ready! Just revving it from time to time, just waiting for the green lights!!!

Just don't know about your team.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

LBJ hiding inside their locker room during player introductions against the Cavs speaks volumes... Good thing our Leader is the exact opposite!

If placed in a similar situation, our so called "ballhog" CHAMPION leader would go out there and slay whoever is in his way!!! Without mercy.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

rossdoggy dog76- Dude...nice to see you're still alive, I'm still DIGGIN the Lake Show from a distant. I just feel if the Lakers and Heat meet in the FINAL's the Heat will be the NEW Champs. They can only HOPE to play Boston or Chicago to 3 peat, also feel that most Laker fans know this. And btw my best work is done on the GOLF COURSE or KITCHEN.

JovBATZ24- Dude...Gas is pretty COSTLY today, let's not run out before the LIGHT turns green.

Troll Man - Dude...you're always spot on with your post, yes the Lake Show is in GOOD health. I feel the only thing that may derail the SHOW is the BENCH, just can't put too much stock in their performance. I honestly feel the HEAT has the SHOW'S number, despite their disadvantage on the inside.
JUST ONE MAN'S OPINION

@Triangulator - enjoyed your JJ set...especially the cut with Stith. Smooth.


@Jon Batz - I see you're still holding down the early shift. I enjoyed that Cavs- Heat came also. Miami's a different team when Bosh doesn't show up.

Island Priest: Once again, you make a brash statement that has no basis in reality. Kobe didn't win the MVP in 2006 because of the Lakers/Suns playoff series? Think about that statement.

The MVP is for the *regular* season.

Go Lake Show!

Random Thoughts….

It’s a beautiful thing when the most the Laker worries are the 7-10 players.

I like Grant Hill and am happy he’s having another productive season, but I’m not feeling all the Defensive Player of the Year talk or 1st team all defensive.

Was Cleveland better effort against Miami and Mo Williams being gone a coincidence? I’m just saying it’ll take me a long time to get over the defeatist comments he made when Lebron left.

For those clamoring for the Lakers to sign Bibby…yesterday’s game was exhibit A. For those wanting Murph or Brewer we're still waiting...

Many thought Amare numbers would drop significantly without Nash, but that hasn’t been the case. FG % is down from 55 to 50, but he’s upped his scoring avg by 2.5pts, doubled his blocks and nearly tripled his assists.

Since it was so cool to see the Cavs and city of Cleveland have a day in the sun, my selection today is for them...

Digable Planets - Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM4kqL13jGM


@Tri - I thought I'd add a little hip-hop flava to your jazz :-)

A good article by Ding on Bynum's "mental" breakthrough.
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/-294212--.html

S.Perkins is so full of ish, even his bull-ish is bull-ish....

G.Money- I never had the chance to fully congratulate you after Christmas considering what happened in my family so I'll do it now: Congrats, your team beat my team...in the regular season....anyway, the real season begins, so let's just wait and see what happens shall we? Don't jinx your team just yet homie, you never know when a mysterious elbow injury and a near quadruple double could happen to end your playoff run :). Your team needs to do what Al Davis preaches before talking about a finals berth: Just Win Baby.

@LRob...

Bibby sure did look good last night. He provided just what the Heat need going forward.

Some of the talk about Grant Hill undoubtedly stems from the high esteem in which he is held around the league. People seem to want to reward one of the league's solid citizens. He has had a very good year and is certainly fighting the good fight against Father time.

I think Amare still played his best ball this year when teamed with a good pick and roll guard in Raymond Felton. Since the big trade, Amare has to create his own shot a lot more, which is not his forte. He has a tendency to try to bull rush defenders, and is prone to offensive fouls. He has, however, added to the other phases of his game as you mentioned. He's shown that he doesn't need Nash to be effective.

Digable Planets - Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat)

Posted by: LRob | March 30, 2011 at 07:55 AM
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Nice track. Very chill.
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Some of the talk about Grant Hill undoubtedly stems from the high esteem in which he is held around the league. People seem to want to reward one of the league's solid citizens.

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 30, 2011 at 08:16 AM
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I'm sorry, but are sure you're not talking bout Fisher here?

Magia 32

Haha nice one; ahem, you are being issued a warning for defamation of character. Next time the PSP won't be so lenient son. Be careful

Thanks
PSP Officer

@BronxLF - NY has changed up their offense to accommodate Melo...so that's affecting Amare's numbers as well. Nash is a great player, but I think he was given to much credit for Amare's success. I think it was more of a mutual thing.


@Magia32 - very funny. Where you been? You missed out on some lively DFish discussions.

@Magia32...

Very clever! :)! No, I like Fish.

jefe101, Laker Peace and 40Year Fan,

Good catch on the math. Catching SA would require Lakers winning almost all remaining games and the opposite for SA.

As far as 1 v. 2 seed.

The 1 seed gets 8, 4 and 5 in its bracket (Currently Memphis, OKC, Denver)
The 2 seed gets 7, 3 and 6 in its bracket (Currently, NO, Portland and Dallas)

While I agree with the concept that the Lakers should always play to win every game, I believe the 2nd seed would put the Lakers in a more favorable bracket when it comes to match ups. While Portland traditionally has been a tough opponent for the Lakers, they would have to beat Dallas first to play the next round. The Lakers have owned New Orleans this season and traditionally have owned Dallas.

Memphis is a much tougher first round opponent than NO, and Denver and OKC are both very dangerous opponents. While 7 games should produce the best team, either of those two teams if on a hot streak have the talent and athletic ability to upset a higher ranked opponent.

I think the Lakers are right where they need to be and playing well going into playoffs.

LakerPeace,

you wrote:
It's interesting to notice that if the Lakers win the #1 seed in the West, they may have to play the #4 seed OKC in the 2nd round. I'd rather the Lakers play against Dallas than OKC in the 2nd round. And if SA gets #1 and OKC #4, then I believe OKC will win the series...So it could be easier for the Lakers to be in #2 seed, but to make sure they get the better records than any of the East teams to get HCA if the Lakers advance to the Finals...

Posted by: LakerPeace | March 29, 2011 at 08:18 PM


my response: While I understand your viewpoint, I disagree with this
mentality.

The mind of a champion is: We want to play the very best. And we want to
beat the very best. In the worst way possible.

*I* wish to break the heart/spirit of EVERY SINGLE TEAM!

*I* wish EVERY SINGLE TEAM to feel like underdogs, like they have to
get lucky. And I wish it to be so for the next 3 years.

Strike hard! Strike clean! No Mercy!
To prove ourselves upon the corpse of EVERY SINGLE TEAM!

*THAT* is what it means to DOMINATE!

Those sad trolls [ Island Priest/Altar boy & Kobefan ] never did do well in
english. Oh, well.

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!!

LRob,

Just got back from Socal, I went to the Lakers Clippers and Uconn Arizona game.
I read the Fisher discussions, both sides had good points, but I think you know which side I'm backing.
=======================

bronxlakerfan,

I like Fisher too, I just don't like his game, at all.

Here's your obscure statistic of the day:

Previously, only three teams in NBA history have lost four straight games despite being at least 40 games over .500 at the start of the losing streak. Of those other 3, only one actually made it to the NBA finals.

The 1968-70 Knicks did it and won the championship.

The 1977-78 Trailblazers did it, and lost in the first round to Phoenix.

The 2009-10 Cavaliers did it, and lost in the second round to the Celtics.

A disturbing thought for San Antonio...

MM. what are the chances of Theo Ratliff be in the Lakers uniform again. We need size in the 2nd unit on top of Gasol or LO, the two have been logging long minutes throughout the season. I said before that he was a garbage because there were other big players who were available last summer and Mitch chose Theo who replaced the smiling DJ in order to support our C and PF based from his experience in defense. It turned out he's more of a liability in the injury list. I heard his season is practically over and most probably his last stop in his illustrious career. Another guy who should be helping the Lakers in Joe Smith, he is also relegated to garbage time. If you only play during garbage time, what is the most appropriate to call yourself, a garbage player isn't it? However, it is good they still have a job.

At what time would other non-contender teams will be cutting their marquee players? We still have the 15th slot, if Theo and Ebanks will no longer be playing there are 3 more positions available tho' I doubt if Mitch will fill those spots. We need a streak shooter in the perimeter or another big body in the post. I thought that was the role of Caracter, it turned out he's more of a foul prone player.

Bronxlakerfan

Good pt about amare n the pick n roll since trade.. I don't think he's relishing his new role as second fiddle to melo and their struggles is a testament to that.. Championship teams need some stars to sacrifice and it aint happenin there yet... If knicks are gonna win with melo they're gonna need their bigs to actually rebond and playD and that's not gonna happen w amare who's not worth max money... With melo knicks brass will now have much higher expectations and d'antonis days may be numbered since u can never build a championship team around a run n gun system.. (See don nelson)

That said hope knicks meet heat in playoffs cause that's one team they match up well against

MM,

You've got two things wrong in your analysis. One I believe is just a typo:

>>>That means the Lakers would need to win at least four of their nine
>>>remaining games, while the Spurs would need to lose at least three of
>>>their last eight games. That would leave the Lakers and Spurs with
>>>identical records.

Not even close. If the Lakers lose 5 and the Spurs lose 3, that puts the Spurs even FURTHER ahead of the Lakers.

The Lakers need to win 3 more games than the Spurs. So even if the Lakers win out, the Spurs need to lose at least 3 games. And even if the Spurs LOSE out, the Lakers would need to win at least four more games. Maybe that's what you were getting at, but the way you stated it seemed to point in an incorrect direction. It sounded like you were saying..."If the Lakers win 4 and the Spurs lose 3, then it's all even", which is incorrect.

Second issue:

Division record only comes into play if the teams are in the same division. Since the Lakers and Spurs aren't in the same division, the third tiebreaker (conference record) would come into play.

Right now, the Lakers and Spurs both have 11 losses in conference. Assuming the Lakers win out, they would own the tiebreaker, since they'd be dropping another conference loss on the Spurs when they beat them.

But it's still mathematically possible for the Lakers to win 3 more games than the Spurs, yet lose the HCA on the conference tiebreaker.

Oh, and if they're tied on conference record, the next tiebreakers are Record vs Playoff teams, own conference, then Record vs Playoff teams, other conference, then Net points, all games. Not sure where the Lakers stand on the first two - right now they lead SA on net points.

s.perkins you must be from utah and still p#**ed your
owner released him. Complainers are losers move on
and get a life Maverick

I like Fisher too, I just don't like his game, at all.

Posted by: Magia32 | March 30, 2011 at 08:55 AM
====

Translation: you hate the triangle offense.

Translation: you hate Phil Jackson.

Translation: you hate Mitch Kupchak.

Translation: you hate Jerry Buss.

Translation: you hate the Lakers.

Eric "Otter" Stratton- "But you can't hold an entire NBA franchise responsible for the behavior of a few sick, twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the entire NBA? And if the whole league is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our professional sports leagues in general? I put it to you, Magia32 - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!"

@yellofever....

People are trying to analyze the Knicks to death. To me they are just a work in progress. Adding Melo is just a step in the process, not the final answer. Any team that is starting Jared Jeffries at center, as the Knicks were for a while, is not going to be very good.

*THAT* is what it means to DOMINATE!

Those sad trolls [ Island Priest/Altar boy & Kobefan ] never did do well in
english. Oh, well.
Posted by: hobbitmage | March 30, 2011 at 08:49 AM

I suppose me agreeing with Phil's comment qualifies me as a kobe hater. You don't do well with objections because of having Kobe Rose color glasses on. By the way you never responded to my last post.

Looks like you did not finish your sentence above, isn't it missing "The Ball" after DOMINATE

cheers!

Cap's Goggles- Dude...I didn't think you'll ever give props, but thanks. I for one truly think the South Beach Crew going to surprise you in the PLAYOFFS, the Lake Show knows how tough they can be once they set their collective minds. Drew and Pau don't want to be around the RIM, it can get REAL UGLY. Hey...let just see how it plays out, Still DIGGIN the Lake Show from a DISTANT.

DOESN'T MATTER...SPURS ARE GONNA WIN IT ALL...LAKERS CAN'T BEAT SPURS IN SEVEN GAME SERIES AND THE SPURS ARE EVEN BETTER NOW THAT TIAGO AND BLAIR GET MORE MINUTES...TIM'S INJURY WAS A BLESSING...AND ALL THE REST OUR PLAYERS ARE GETTING...NOONE WANTS TO SEE US...SPURS OVER BULLS IN 5!!!!!!!


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