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Photo: Lakers Kobe Bryant dishes off a pass in front of Maveriks Jason Kidd at the Staples Center Jan. 3, 2010. Credit: Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times

 
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Posted by: LakerTom | March 31, 2011 at 09:32 AM
LakerTom:

Phil with his simple statement "Who's open?" made a profound statement and how can one really refute when it relates to a TEAM sport, duh! I would rather Lakers lose a game as a TEAM then one person determining a negative outcome.

I noticed you too caught on to Hobbit's "smoke & mirrors” and his argument based on “few isolated box scores or quotes taken out of context". It is completely off base and off tangent. One thing that admire about Hobbit is his fierce loyalty to Kobe and having them ROSE COLOR GLASSES help, lol.

This is a video Laker fans might appreciate

http://rfmp.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/laker-girl/

Rocky,

you wrote: Hobbit, I'm looking forward to your response to LT and Kobe888. I'm also more of a *how* guy than a *what* guy. The *how* creates understanding of an issue, while the *what* is just blind knowledge of an issue. In order to understand the *what*, one must know the *how*.

Go Lakers!

Posted by: Rocky | March 31, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Well, you've already seen that I agreed w/ KobeMVP888.

Kobefan & LakerTom are mis-understanding the issue.

Let me see if I can clarify things:

1st & foremost this is actually an issue of understanding. Follow me on this
one:

Can you *really* hate a man who scores 27 pts in the first half. His team is
down because his teammates can't buy a shot. He puts them on his back and
scores 54 in the second half to win the game?

The *VAST* majority of times that Kobe shoots the ball 25 or more times you'll
find that some of his teammates are having *HORRIBLE* shooting nights.

So: what is Kobe supposed to do? Keep giving the ball to his teammates &
lose the game?

Some people will say you just need to have faith in your teammates. I'm not
completely against this, however can we say that it's NOT a blanket response.
Sometimes ... that particular game is JUST TOO IMPORTANT TO LOSE.

Now, people will say that I've got on Kobe glasses at this point. Which is why
I didn't post any links to Kobe and instead pointed to MJ.

So here is the thing: MJ, who many believe to be the greatest to ever play the
game, was the embodiment of competition. When you listen/watch the
commercials for that video game ... where they're bringing MJ back.

Q. How many times does the commercial show MJ passing the ball to a
teammate?

Q. How many times does MJ refer to his teammates as the reason why he
won his championships?

Q. When is the last time you heard MJ refer to Luc Longley or Steve Kerr or
John Paxon ?

I come back to, in my mind, a very solid question.

If MJ is so much into *TEAM* & Kobe isn't,

Q. how come he (MJ) doesn't talk about it?
Q. How come their stats (MJ & Kobe ) are almost identical?
[ some will say that their not. do a quick check on basketball-reference.com.
Kobe is w/in 5 - 10% of MJ on just about everything. ]

to be honest, I don't actually care. Nothing Kobefan or Island Priest or
Staples 24 or LakerTom do or say can EVER affect history.

This is my opinion, so it's worth less than a cow fart in Wisconsin:

YOU CAN'T TEACH A LION TO EAT GRASS!

Kobe & MJ are PURE PREDATORS! They kill you. It's what they do.
Trying to re-make them into Magic Johnson just isn't validated by the
numerical data.

i just read the germaine o'neal will be playing tonight against the spurs. tonight's game one on tnt will be the finals preview between the celtic and spurs. the only difference is that shaq is still resting for the upcoming finals. can we fast forward to june?

BEST SELLER BY PHIL JACKSON AKA ZEN:

I should copyright "Who is open?" title for Phil's next book, 100 page book with blank pages except for the last summary page which will read:

"I like to see everybody involved in the game," Jackson said. "I've tried to preach as a basketball coach, even though we have a guy that dominates the ball in Kobe, basketball is not a one on one game — it's a team game."

Hobbit,

Points taken. I respect your opinion, it is not worthless. Opinions are all we got as posters.

Go Lakers!

Kobe & MJ are PURE PREDATORS! They kill you.

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM

hahahahahahaaha.. Little people living vicariously through their superhero.

A lot of reports that Dallas is looking to end the Lakers' 7 game winning streak but what most fail to understand is that the Lakers are looking to end Dallas' 5 game winning streak! Let The Games Begin!!

"Utah Jazz starters Andrei Kirilenko, Devin Harris and Raja Bell already have been ruled out for Friday night's game against the Los Angeles Lakers because of various leg injuries." NBA.COM. Looks like the 2nd of a back-back for the Lakers tomorrow should be somewhat easy allowing them to go all out for tonight's contest.

They can pick up a game against Dallas and if S.A. loses to Bos tonight, they'll pick up a game against them too and should overtake CHI for 2nd best record in the league. Lots of stuff going on tonight so don't be fooled: there's nothing boring about the last stretch of this particular season, that's for sure!


"We're worried about our execution. That's all we did then and that's all we'll do now." #24 K. Bryant


"Everything about the Lakers is geared toward winning playoff games. It's what they do." J.A. Adande


"Even when we didn’t make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss


Go Lakers & In Buss We Trust!!

go ahead and add my quote, "we're almost there."

Concern for the Lakers tonight? Buying into their own press. Believing this game will be as easy as the last one. Thinking their post break record means they are the best.


They need to come out determined, hungry and executing properly. If they do, Dallas is dead.


Sir Round Mound Milk Dud Head Charles is right - the West will be a tough place come playoff time. Laker fans will be expecting fo-fo-fo and will turn on their guys when some of these series shape up as real battles. But there could be some real battles.

kobefan,

as I said, your hypocrisy is evident.

and no ... I don't have superheroes. I am one.

btw, are you coming to Oakland. the dojo is open
and I'm ready to reveal my couch-potatoness to you on the mat.

Hey I made a mistake. Brez's chat is actually tomorrow. But feel free to comment in the threads. I'll have some content up soon

"Kobe & MJ are PURE PREDATORS! They kill you. It's what they do.
Trying to re-make them into Magic Johnson just isn't validated by the
numerical data."

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM

__________

That quote has "Friedman Award" written all over it and that's a WRAP!!

"We're worried about our execution. That's all we did then and that's all we'll do now." #24 K. Bryant


"Everything about the Lakers is geared toward winning playoff games. It's what they do." J.A. Adande


"Even when we didn’t make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss


Go Lakers & In Buss We Trust!!

:hahahahahahaaha.. Little people living vicariously through their superhero.

Posted by: kobefan | March 31, 2011 at 11:47 AM


Or little people living vicariously through their hate.

Different sides of the same coin.


ARE THE SPURS TRYING TO GET THE #2 SEED ???
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As teams start to jockey for playoff seeds, the thought crossed my mind that maybe Greg Popovitch has decided that the Spurs would have a better shot at making the Western Conference Finals by losing the #1 seed to the Lakers. There may be more to their lineup changes than just injuries.
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Right now, as #1 seed, the Spurs are in the same bracket as OKC, Denver, and Memphis while as #2 seed, the Lakers are in the same bracket as Dallas, New Orleans, and Portland. To me, the most dangerous teams to have to play in the first or second rounds are the Mavs, Hornets, and Blazers.
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If the Lakers beat the Mavs and the Spurs lose to the Celtics tonight, San Antonio’s lead over the Lakers will have been cut to just 2 games in the loss column with 8 games to go for the Lakers and 7 to go for the Spurs, who still have to play Houston, Phoenix (twice), Atlanta, Sacramento, Utah, and the Lakers at Staples on April 12th, which may determine who wins the #1 seed in the West.
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TOM



@RSP.... OK, I’ll take a guess at your real identity. Are you Phil AKA puddle?
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TOM

I once had a Berkeley professor that wrote the thesis on common sense say the biggest problem with the world is that everyone asks How and not Why?

It was a question that Robert Oppenheimer said all scientists need to ask before they ask How, and one he wishes he would have asked before he created the atomic bomb.

So instead of asking “WHAT” or “HOW” Jordan or Kobe did it? Maybe we should be focusing on “WHY” they did what they did in those games?

@Justa – haha…the brilliance of Simon. Thank you!

@63 Footer – better not mess with Johnny…when he sharpened his knife…ha. Don’t forget about his bro!

@Wes Joe – cheese is good! Especially if it’s the Gibbs bros. Rance Allen…Toledo’s finest…true message in the music.

@hobbit – Magic was pure “killer” also. His how was different that MJ and Kobe…but the what was definitely the same.

"ARE THE SPURS TRYING TO GET THE #2 SEED ???
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Posted by: LakerTom | March 31, 2011 at 12:45 PM "


I know Popovich is a great coach but if he is gunning for that 2 seed, I really have to question him. If he thinks he has a better chance of beating the Lakers in LA than he does of beating Memphis, Denver, or OKC in San Antonio, he has lost me. When you have a home record like the Spurs do, it makes no sense to not want to play as many games as possible there, regardless of the opponent.

Oh lord, you guys sound like the PSP's 5th Grade teach Mrs A.C .. "You have to know the hoowwwwwwww and whyyyyyyyy ..."

As for the MJ and KB debate about team players, someone on the blog addressed it in a great way saying, "You can't teach a lion to eat grass" Amen!

Thanks
PSP Officer

as much as i am REALLY looking foward to tonite's game, it won't be the end of the world if they lose. just more in the future to prove.i think round mound is right, the west IS scary. this i think is in keeping with CHICKIE BABY, and that is want to have everyone healthy so we can see who is best. as a laker junkie, i must admit to having a lack of objectivity to this, so i need to quote my 85 year old mother, who saw them last week and told me "they looked great, they should win" nuff said

@LT - Interesting thought on the Spurs...I posted something similar about Dallas recently. Once its evident they can't secure the 2nd seed...check to see if they start positioning themselves to get to the 4th seed to move out of the Laker bracket.

Where did the Jordan game 6 talk originate? Are people suddenly trying to say he had an amazing game? Making a game winner to clinch a series and promising to retire was a signature moment and all but I don't remember people saying it was a great game outside of the gamewinner. In fact, his shooting in that whole series was unspectacular.

"@LT - Interesting thought on the Spurs...I posted something similar about Dallas recently. Once its evident they can't secure the 2nd seed...check to see if they start positioning themselves to get to the 4th seed to move out of the Laker bracket.

Posted by: LRob | March 31, 2011 at 01:10 PM "

Maybe it's all just smoke but Dallas talks like they really want to beat LA. I'd be surprised if they did anything to avoid them.

Where is Mamba24? can someone shed light here?

game one will be the clash of the young decade. i still see the spurs as a tremendous obstacle for us. then i'll check out the dallas game afterwards. i'm going for the home team in that one.

@TOM DANIELS... “Sir Round Mound Milk Dud Head Charles is right - the West will be a tough place come playoff time. Laker fans will be expecting fo-fo-fo and will turn on their guys when some of these series shape up as real battles. But there could be some real battles.”
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It’s a rare moment when I disagree with the great Tom Daniels but as George Mumford might say, the Lakers are in the zone and will meet each playoff round challenge with inspired heart and play. In other words, their asses are on fire. There will be no loss of focus or lack of effort to derail this juggernaut. The team to a man realizes how important it is to win this year’s NBA championship, to send Phil off to Montana with his 12th ring and his incredible fourth three-peat as a head coach and to finally tie the Boston Celtics for the lead in NBA championships with their 17th banner.
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I personally don’t think it matters who the Lakers play or whether or not they have home court. Bottom line, with Drew, Ron, and Lamar playing like they have been, the Lakers will not be taken to a 7th game in any of this year’s playoffs. With a little luck, they may even match or better the 2001 Lakers great 15-1 playoffs record. Kobe Bryant knows that this is his chance to finally tie MJ with his 6th ring. There is no way he is going to let this opportunity slip away. You don’t need to be a mystic to see the signs. It’s not just the record but the way the Lakers are winning that counts.
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While the competition may be better than last year in both the West and East, this year’s Lakers team with a healthy Andrew Bynum has improved far more than the their competition. How many times have we said that a healthy Bynum would elevate the Lakers to an entirely new level of play? Well, how about the impact of a healthy Bynum who is now focused on defense and rebounding? While other teams struggle with late season trades and injuries, the Lakers are rocking and rolling their way to what may be the greatest closing run in the history of the NBA. A season for the ages.
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@HOBBITMAGE.... I get where you’re coming from with Kobe and love the passion of your posts. I love Kobe as a player as much as you or anybody but you do him a great disservice and disrespect with your claims that he is not a team player or that he does not understand that you cannot win a championship without playing solid team basketball at both ends of the court. While Kobe may take too many shots or not shoot as efficiently as I would like, I have always said that I trusted him to do the right thing and to make the right play when it counts. I think it is an insult to peg him as a scorer whose nature is so set that he cannot learn how to be a better leader or teammate. He has clearly shown through the years that he has made great strides in both areas. His leadership and team play is why the Lakers are back-to-back champions and why they will win it again this year.
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@BAY TO LA... I don’t really believe that Pop is trying to get the #2 seed but you never know. After all, this is the guy who tanked an entire season to get the right to draft the Admiral. I also think that Greg probably understands that there are some advantages to being the #2 seed and not having to go through Memphis, Denver, and OKC to get to the Western Conference Finals. In other words, Pop probably realizes that it is not the end of the world to lose the #1 seed because there is a silver lining to that cloud. As it stands, I think the Lakers will overtake the Spurs and roll through whomever we have to play in the West as well as whomever we meet in the Finals. JMO.
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@LROB.... LOL. I remember your comments about Dallas. What team in their right mind really wants to face the Lakers in any round? Pop’s hope may be that if the Lakers have to go through OKC, Denver, and Memphis, that might be the Spurs best hopes of our getting ousted before the Western Conference Finals. Unfortunately, this Lakers team is not worried about any team.
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TOM

"@BAY TO LA... I don’t really believe that Pop is trying to get the #2 seed but you never know. After all, this is the guy who tanked an entire season to get the right to draft the Admiral. I also think that Greg probably understands that there are some advantages to being the #2 seed and not having to go through Memphis, Denver, and OKC to get to the Western Conference Finals. In other words, Pop probably realizes that it is not the end of the world to lose the #1 seed because there is a silver lining to that cloud. As it stands, I think the Lakers will overtake the Spurs and roll through whomever we have to play in the West as well as whomever we meet in the Finals. JMO.
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TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | March 31, 2011 at 01:46 PM "

Yeah I think Popovich is likely feeling the same way the Lakers would right now in that position. As long as they get to the playoffs healthy, everything else will work itself out. Even if that means losing a few regular season games and dropping in the standings.

He'd much rather lose the #1 seed than lose a Duncan or Ginobili. For the #1 seed, even with their current injuries I think it's still in the Spurs hands for now. To get the #1 seed, every single game is a must win for the Lakers but the Spurs can focus all of their effort on April 12 if it comes down to it. I must say it's getting much closer than I expected.

First things first, if the Lakers don't win tonight, they can forget about 1st and will have to fight to even get 2nd so that should be the focus for now.

Mark Medina:

Just curious to whereabouts of mamba24? Any idea?


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