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TIME FOR THE BIG FIVE !!!!!
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With Andrew Bynum dominating the paint and the Bobcats defense, the Lakers may have lost Derek Fisher at exactly the wrong time as they prepare to head out for a season-defining 4-game road trip that starts Sunday afternoon in San Antonio followed by tough games in Atlanta, Miami, and Dallas. But in an ironic twist of fate, maybe Fish got injured at exactly the right time for the Lakers.
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While logic says that Phil Jackson will start Steve Blake at point guard in the event that Derek Fisher can’t go on Sunday, I would love to see him surprise everyone by thinking out-of-the-box and starting Lamar Odom at point guard. It’s the lineup that the rest of the NBA hopes the Lakers never play. It’s a Big Five that could dominate every other team’s Big Three or Four. It’s the ultimate Lakers lineup.

With the Spurs fresh off an impressive trouncing of the Miami Heat, what better time for Phil to pull the trap on them and start Odom for Fisher. I have little doubt that Lamar Odom could do at least as good a job guarding Tony Parker as Derek Fisher. With Drew having his back at the rim, Lamar would be able to back off Parker and stay with him on defense while still challenging the outside jump shot.

Historically, Phil has never played the Big Five and has only played the Big Three – Drew, Pau, and Lamar – a few times for brief stints. Strategically, this could be the perfect time to unleash the Big Five, with Fisher injured and the Lakers looking to stretch their 6-game win streak but facing a very difficult four road games that includes their major West rival as well as the vaunted Miami Heat.

You can talk all you want about how this lineup would be too slow but there is no way that you can convince me that Derek Fisher is faster than Lamar Odom. Bottom line, the game is still all about matchups. Can you imagine Tony Parker trying to stop Lamar Odom in the post. Yes, Tony may be able to score on Lamar on offense but smartly posting Lamar could force Parker to the bench.

Bottom line, the last thing the rest of the NBA wants to see from the Lakers with the team playing great defense and Andrew Bynum starting to play like a beast is the Big Five lineup. The move would force opposing teams another Lakers weapon for which to have to plan and prepare. It would be a gutsy and stroke of genius that could help Phil and the Lakers pull away to win their 4th threepeat.
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TOM

"But in an ironic twist of fate, maybe Fish got injured at exactly the right time for the Lakers." What a stupid Laker Fan who ever said this.

The ability to change the game without the O running through you......

9 points.....17 boards.....6 blocks....

That's what should happen against a sub 500 team.....

Very nice.

No way the lakers start LO as right now the perfect rota tion is the 3 way between Bynum,Pau,with LO coming off the pine. Lakers have no other bigs that can come off the bench. Lakers should have kept Sasha as Joe Smith sees no playing time. This would have given them an extra guard.
In the last 6 minutes I would like to see the big 3 in the front line against certain teams.

LakerTom,

you wrote: While logic says that Phil Jackson will start Steve Blake at point guard in the event that Derek Fisher can’t go on Sunday, I would love to see him surprise everyone by thinking out-of-the-box and starting Lamar Odom at point guard. It’s the lineup that the rest of the NBA hopes the Lakers never play. It’s a Big Five that could dominate every other team’s Big Three or Four. It’s the ultimate Lakers lineup.

my response: Is it out of the box, when it's been tried before? Didn't you say
almost exactly the same thing last year? And the year before that?
And the year before that, although you prefaced it with waiting on Bynum's
return.

This is almost like a zombie topic. Even though PJ has made his opinion
quite clear, even though the basketball reasons against this are quite clear,
it returns like Freddie Kruger or Michael Moore. Will you still be asking
for this lineup after Lamar, Pau & Bynum have retired?

hobbit - agreed - the TALL lineup is decidedly unimpressive. I'd much rather have Socks coming off the bench and LO back in the starting line up. Sorry Laker Tom.... (but I still believe he can become the beast. I'm just not sure he wants to bad enough...) Sorry again Laker Tom... lol :)

Posted by: justanothermambafan | February 25, 2010 at 08:51 PM

LakerTom/hobbitmage: I remember I think it was '06 when Phil brought Scottie Pippen in to work with L.O. in training camp to try to help mold him into a point-forward, similar to Pippen was with the Bulls. That didn't work at all. L.O. though is so versatile it COULD work on the offensive end, but it would prove to be a disaster on the defensive end as the same type of quick point guards that Fisher has trouble containing would absolutely kill L.O. I really like what L.O. brings coming off the bench, he has accepted the role and thrived. He's such an unselfish distributor that he is perfect for the triple-post, he rebounds, he can hit an outside shot and can slash his way to the hoop, and he IS quick for his size. His versatility though is perfect for the bench mob, he usually closes out close games with the starters anyways. Phil knows what he is doing, he's got the right starting lineup out there and he is very good at using his bench correctly. Sure, we can nitpick but overall Phil is doing his usual excellent job coaching this team...

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | February 26, 2010 at 03:29 AM

Those of you who have read my thoughts know that I try to keep it positive, take the high-road, and avoid trashing other writers or their posts.

With that said, and with the full acknowledgment that 'everyone has a right' to express their opinion, the post by "charlesinoc" really ticked me off:
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""But in an ironic twist of fate, maybe Fish got injured at exactly the right time for the Lakers." What a stupid Laker Fan who ever said this.

Posted by: charlesinoc | March 05, 2011 at 01:30 AM"
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Charles...like the kids say, you better CHECK yo-self before you WRECK yo-self little man.

Who are YOU to step up and insult LakerTom?

You may disagree with his opinions, and there is nothing wrong with having differing ideas, but you get nowhere by starting-off calling him "stupid."

LakerTom knows his basketball, and beyond this, is a better writer than 99% of the posters on this site. Period.

Express your thoughts with COURTESY and RESPECT if you wish the same returned in kind.

P & G R


With all due respect P & G R, even the best posters throw in stinkers on occasion. This does not mean they get a free ride from critical retorts though.

Perhaps charlesinoc should have used one of the following adjectives for a less scalding attack by you, or would it have mattered?

brainless,
headless
dopy,
dopey,
foolish,
goosey,
goosy,
gooselike,
jerky
blockheaded,
boneheaded,
duncical,
duncish,
loggerheaded,
thick,
thickheaded,
thick-skulled,
wooden-headed
cloddish,
doltish
dense,
dim,
dull,
dumb,
obtuse,
slow
gaumless,
gormless
lumpish,
lumpen,
unthinking
nitwitted,
senseless,
soft-witted,
witless
weak
yokel-like

Mark Medina,

You are genuinely a fine writer, but this is a terrible sentence ; "It would be a gutsy and stroke of genius that could help Phil and the Lakers pull away to win their 4th threepeat."

Is this what the ridiculously short deadlines required to compete with the net are doing to us?

--an anonymous professor and novelist

Princess Jimmy seeks to take his talents elsewhere. DWade says the Biatch never was all that in the first place. Bosh is hoping one of the two will seek sole custody of him in the divorce settlement. THE HEAT HAVE OFFICIALLY IMPLODED

So on a far more interesting topic than the TALL lineup ...

Has anybody compared the 02-03 season w/ this season?

Both teams are attempting a 4th appearance in the NBA finals.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2011.html

PTS/G: 101.9 (8th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 95.6 (8th of 30)
Off Rtg: 111.5 (3rd of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 104.6 (8th of 30)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2003.html

PTS/G: 100.4 (4th of 29) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 98.0 (23rd of 29)
Off Rtg: 107.2 (4th of 29) ▪ Def Rtg: 104.7 (19th of 29)

We're actually more evenly balanced, in terms of scoring, with the Ball Hog
running the show. We seem to be playing better defense even though
Kobe's inabilities as a leader are multiple & manifest.

Last night, it seemed that Kobe couldn't throw the ball in the ocean. Son of a
gun shot 25 times. 25 times!!!! And we won? There goes that useful stat.

The drama of the season has me all tingly inside. :)

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!!

gospel:

Then came a December stretch that included a host of creampuffs, followed by the apologists and delusionists ignoring clear signs of trouble ahead. This could occur because the Heat padded their record thoroughly against so-so teams even while the mounting losses against quality opponents went underappreciated or ignored.

This can work in politics, where spin and a knack for lying to oneself or one's constituents — regardless of political affiliation — can keep politicians in office and their supporters happy with what they don't have to know or admit.

It doesn't work so well in sports, where, eventually, spin and a knack for lying to oneself end abruptly. Competition and scoreboards have a way of cutting through such things.

You know, I don't even hate the Heat, really, but that is some Funny Shift written up above by PRINCESS JIMMY NOTES.

"Bosh is hoping one of the two will seek sole custody of him in the divorce settlement"

I only hope you're not really Ouchhhhhh, I would hate to have to admit he actually wrote something funny/worth reading.

I see something different in this Fisher injury. He was seriously angry at the thought of leaving to the locker room. Sure, this could be competitive fire - but it can also be an incapable player that refuses to give anyone else a chance. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Fisher will never let go of that starter spot. Never. That is, until someone makes him (and PJ won't do it)

I WANT him on the team. I just didn't want him starting or playing 25-30 minutes a night - last season or this season (although this season there's not a lot we can do otherwise)

I bet it's minor enough that he'll battle through any pain and start tomorrow.

http://www.foxsportswest.com/msn/03/05/11/Lakers-are-winning-but-must-raise-game-o/landing_witz.html?blockID=433770&feedID=3657

re: inside-outside basketball.

snippet:

"I didn’t like any part of the game tonight," Phil Jackson said. "We weren’t fluid, we didn’t move the ball well. We came out with the attitude that we were going to pound the ball in and a lot of it was about the physical aspect of the game. It became a physical contest rather than the basketball moving, guys cutting."

Was that the sound of a cliche hitting the ground?

snippet:
"We really want to win these games, not just for the standings," Bynum said. "But to send a message and let everybody know we’re here and we’re serious."

That would be great. I thought this was only the practice season ...

As y'all can tell, I'm feeling a little feisty. Clearly I need to go workout. :)

As y'all can tell, I'm feeling a little feisty. Clearly I need to go workout. :)
Posted by: hobbitmage | March 05, 2011 at 08:15 AM

Yes Hobbit you do and try not to inflict too much damage on your opponent. Sparring partners are people too!

Very impressive performance by Drew. Here are Drew's numbers in the Lakers six game winning streak since the all-star break:

10.7 pts/11 reb/3 blks/58% fg/80% ft and just 1.7 fouls.

The most encouraging part of Drew's play is he now understands that his biggest value to the team is on defense. It's a beautiful thing to see him grow. As Drew continues to be a defensive force referees will start giving him more leeway. Maybe that's already happening with just 1.7 fouls in the last six games.

This 6 game winning streak can symbolize the versatility of the Lakers line-ups, match-ups and determination. Two blowout wins (Hawks, Clippers), two close road victories in hostile territory (Blazers, Thunder) and two defensive wins, when we couldn't throw a pea into the ocean. In that span, the Lakers are averaging 98.3ppg, while only giving up only 87.6 ppg. Defensive efficiency has been constant, as has Ron's frustrating Defense that at times makes players feel like he's pulling teeth. Stephen Jackson did not want to be on the floor last night. Bynum's 6 blocks and 17 rebounds shows his consistency in Rim protection and anchoring the defense.

There is always ways to improve efficiency on both sides, a 6 game winning streak with diverse, victories, with timely defensive stops, shot making, decision making and communication is certainly worth being happy about. Not satisfied, there is no satisfaction until their is total unity, when five men on the floor become 1, they're getting there, it's a process and right now, the improvement is showing.

I thought Tony Parker was injured for a month? DO these guys exaggerate injuries on purpose? Nevertheless, I am pretty surprised at how good the Spurs are this year. Very impressive, these cockroaches of the NBA.

I have to agree with the previous posts on Bynum......his emphasis on defense is what helps make this team truly fearsome.

win blevins - I don't know what article you're referring to because I never wrote that sentence

I thought that Mark Medina made some very good and true points in his video summation. The Lakers played terrible last night, with the exception of Andrew Bynum. Their leader, Kobe Bryant, who I love to death, had an absolutely putrid game, IMHO. The fact that they won did little to hide what was a truly disappointing effort.

Kobe kept forcing shots as though he had some personal vendetta to settle. He needed to get his ass out of the pinch post and thus allow Pau and Andrew some room to operate. I was really upset at the selfish way Kobe played last night.

The rest of the team wasn't much better. Only the facts that Charlotte is disoriented since the loss of Gerald Wallace and that Stephen Jackson checked out early allowed the Lakers a relatively stress-free win.

The Lakers need to get their act together. The team they play Sunday placed EIGHT players in double figures last night against a very good Miami team. San Antonio shares the ball and creates GOOD shots on just about every possession. If The Show plays like they did tonight on Sunday, they are going to get their feelings hurt.

win blevins,

Dude, lay off Mark Medina.

I'm constantly amazed how prolific the guy is considering how tight his deadlines are.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

all i can say is the cake thrower strikes again. seeing him in the league lets me know its is definitely watered down.

LAKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LAKERS YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Lakers I am a 10 year old girl. I was wondering if you could maybe give me some pointers on playing BasketBall. PS.LAKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Lakers will you please come to my birthday party on april 13.


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