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Do the Nuggets have the Lakers right where they want them?

Woody Paige of the Denver Post theorizes that the Nuggets will finish sixth in the Western Conference this season, leading them to a first-round playoff matchup with the Lakers. And as Paige wrote:

"I think they're stuck in sixth place and will play the Lakers in the first round, which, oddly enough, may be their best matchup. There is no way they can beat the Spurs or the Mavericks, and probably no way they can beat the Lakers, but they should win a couple."

So not only does Paige think the Lakers have little, if any, chance of passing Dallas to finish second in the conference, he also thinks they are the most vulnerable of the big three in the West.

Thoughts?

-- Houston Mitchell

 
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Woody Paige is drunk; probably high on some good good one of the Thuggets sold him too.

Thanks
PSP Vice President

Thoughts? Sure.
Woody Paige is a moron. His incoherence of thought is surpassed only by his inarticulation of speech.

Plus, he's a big poopyhead!

posted by Staples

"""Howard will be like Chris Mihm at best on the offensive end, PUT BACKS!"""

Now that's incredibly funny,
you were joking right?

Woody is an idiot. We should catch Dallas, and get the 2 seed in the West.

That being said, we will likely face: Denver (37-27), Portland (37-27), New Orleans (38-29), or Memphis (36-30). Who rep the current 5, 6, 7, and 8 seeds respectively. With Phx Suns in the hunt at 9.


I think the Lakers would most likely dominate against N.O. or Phx.

Denver is long and athletic, and with Billups out, and Lawson in, they tend to run a lot more. However without Melo they do not have the fire power to compete with the Lakers in the playoffs, where the tempo slows.

Portland's Rose Garden is notoriously tough for the Lakers. We have been more successful this year, than years past. But with Roy on the rehab, and Aldridge playing well, they are a very dangerous match up for us.

And while Memphis would seem favorable, we have struggled against them this season. Big question is whether they will get Rudy Gay back from injury.

Sup lakernation

Lots of bickering this morning but at least no ones getting banned.. Even our gangsta blogger Gmoneys back in full effect makin his presence felt.. But yo yo Gmoney u gotta check this out.. you better check yoself before you wreck yo self homey.. Its lewsters n 888 that were part of glorified 27 so easy on trollman dawg
cause he a coo n will have yo back

So let's all get our gamefaces on! I got my gameface n my cryface n my babyface ready for this one....the heat better come packin some serious heat tonight.. They better come packin some extra kleenex too in they mo fo lockeroom cause there's gonna be a lot of sobbing and wailin n weeping n bawlin after this game

Aight I'm all chillax now.. Gotta roll n bounce outta here.. I'm outtie 5000 yall!!

Peace out!

fever,

I feel your hype. Are you back to watching live or still in Tivo mode?

Dear bloggers,

Since I am the designated cheerleader of this blog, I apologize for attacking others. :{ I don't really come here to talk basketball because I don't understand the game very much. I'm more into the dynamics of ping pong and bowling. I just come here to support my BFF posters, no matter how wrong they are. I always thought Bynum should be the first option on offense ahead of Gasol and Kobe, but for now, the first option on defense is good enough. I am the only one who thought Bynum had potential so SUCK THIS BYATCHES. I don't understand why Bynum is focusing on only rebounding and defense. He should be taking the most shots on the team since he is the tallest player and the best dunker. He has more offensive moves than Kareem and better free throws than Shaq and better defense than Russell. Anybody who ever was ever worried about Bynum's knees are losers and are not real Laker fans. You people make me sick, and I told you so. lol.

Posted by: LEWSTERS | March 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

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TO THE BLOG MODERATORS IN CHARGE...

Please investigate this post, for it wasn't me. I know that you are not allowed to impersonate another poster in the Terms of Use...

Please check their IP Address and prevent them from posting using my name again...

I'm sure you will see that this IP Address is one of the "you guys" club...probably got multiple handles like "Bynum or DHoward, or "we don't care" or some other lame phrase like that...

PSP - I got a question for you...why pick the handle "Practice Season Police" that in itself is your 'fatal attraction' for MVP888...be serious...are we suppose to take that anyway else...it's a sarcastic stab at 888...and don't try to twist it any other way...

multiple handle clubs - I got nothing more to say to you cretins...you are not clever or funny...just pathetic...

you guys - the truth hurts doesn't it...it's about saying I was wrong and manning up...instead they try to twist it...attack on LEWSTRS and the Renegade Chat...well at least I can say 'you guys' are consistently ridiculous and pitiful...

Posted by: LEWSTRS |

Sounds like Woody's been around the Horn one too many times.

Denver is going to be a tough 1st round matchup for someone. People overlook them because they lost Melo but in some ways they look stronger now.

i love woody on around the horn, but this is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. i won't even mention the lakers back court, who on the denver turds can deal with the size of the lakers big men? nene, i don't think so. that leaves you with kenyon martin, a big who can bring some intensity, but that still doesn't solve the three headed monster of drew/pao/LO the turds would have to deal with in a SEVEN game series. woody is delusional, if anything dallas would be the best matchup for denver.

Lewsters.

The truth hurts like a mo fo. I think you cracked their armor!

Sounds like Woody's been around the Horn one too many times.

LRob

funny one liner

Woody is just plain Stupid!

@Laker Tom - The NBA is big enough for two great centers. Dwight is already Superman. And if Drew keep balling like he has since the All-Star break he can join the club.

@Justa – Are you checking in today?

@Lew – Anyone that’s been on the blog more than a week knows that wasn’t your post. BTW…what you got today?

@Bay to LA – You know playoff bball is totally different from regular season. Are you predicting that Denver will beat SA, LA, Dallas or OKC? Playing tough in the first round and getting bounced is no consolation for Denver.

I love how Denver has played since Melo took his talents to MSG. And props to Bruin Afflalo. But as a Laker fan, Woody, I ain't too worried.

LEWSTRS

Unlike you, the PSP will answer your question instead of deflecting it and turning to a different issue. The PSP chose the handle as a show of disagreement against the so called 'practice season theory' and NOT to personally spite anybody. Last I checked, that handle conforms to the blog rules or the PSP would have been banned by now.

Now would you stop being a little girl and answer the very simple question the PSP asked you. Take a cue from Jon K son.

Thanks
PSP Intern

PSP - well that's your explanation and I will accept it...

To be honest YES i think you have posted in different handles, but it's logical for me to come to that conclusion...

But since you have said, no you haven't, I will take your word for it...

I have no intent what so ever to go back and forth with you or anyone else as a matter of a fact...I have said my piece and I done with that...

I'm into my Laker team and this exciting period of the season...they are forming and executing this season pretty much how I expected...I knew sooner or later they would come together and reward my patience on them...

If Denver meets OKC in the first round AND Perkins is healthy, ITS ALL OVER for Denver.

PSP and Lewster and others, I would like to volunteer for PEACE. Let's have truce on accusations at each other. Both of you are great Laker fans that got entangled into translation of your passion. Please give it a rest and let's be friends in the blog. If it is not too much asking, let's re-direct our focus on the game tonight, we need to be united in beating a wonderful team with three great Superstars.

"@Bay to LA – You know playoff bball is totally different from regular season. Are you predicting that Denver will beat SA, LA, Dallas or OKC? Playing tough in the first round and getting bounced is no consolation for Denver.


Posted by: LRob | March 10, 2011 at 12:44 PM "

Nah, I'm not expecting Denver to make it past the first round or anything. I just think they'll be a tough matchup.

LEWSTRS

That is all the PSP asked and needed to know. If you guys would have answered this way weeks ago before mvp888 left we would not have gotten into that ugly ahem 'discussion'. Thank you.

Sincerely
PSP Intern

"The Lakers have the rest of the league right where they want them" Laker J

You can take that one to the bank! Go my Lakers!

Where's the blog cohesion? This is GAME DAY, people, so enough with the you-said-this and I-didn't-say-that stuff. Let's focus on the task at hand, which is this:

Applying a sound and reverberant thrashing to the Heat, the likes of which has never before been seen in South Beach.

I'm trying to keep you focused on what's important here.

Go Lake Show!

All the nuggets have are delusions of grandeur. They always think they can compete with our squad. They are not. We took 'em out in 09 and they were all healthy. What more do they want?

LRob - I posted 2 songs when you asked me to the DJ Booth the other day...you never responded, and maybe I posted it on a thread too far back...so here it is again...

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LRob - my flavor today is some Old School...and since I expect us to play in a rubber match with the Chowds...here is another rivalry that matched this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk4ftn4PArg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9hp4ubU1k

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But here is my flavor today...we will go with something newer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skhxizRYxps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Nmip4sPHM (dedicated to our Lakers)

Moody just downgraded the Bank of Spain. It means a prolonged economic hardship because high interests and inflation. Gasol brothers might apply for US citizenship under this kind of conditions. How cheap is Ricky Rubio and Navarro? Something to consider Mitch for the 14th and 15th slot.

my goodness, some people have WAY too much free time on their hands

This is for all the people who hated the Artest for Ariza "trade".

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011/03/10/is-trevor-ariza-the-worst-shooter-ever/

LA Lakers 2009-2010 Back-to-Back NBA Champions

poor lewstrs blogs here with all his negative stuff then goes back to his renegade chat complaning about this blog and gets sympathy from the 4 bloggers posting there how sad is that

HELLO there's a reason why so few chat over on the renegade chat
they should call it the boring pom pom chat, where we console those whose feelings get hurt or their opinions arent held in great reverance on the LA Times laker blog

so pitifully sad

Posted by: non interested fourth party | March 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM

seems to me that lewstrs is the only one in here trying to set you lakers 'fans' straight. 'negative stuff'? pretty funny. he's mr. positive! i don't know what this chat is that you speak of, but if he is avoiding the overwhelming stupidity i'm reading in here, then he's better off being all alone and just talking to himself.

go bulls! d-rose mvp!

Woody Paige....who's he and why are we talking about him?

The Nuggets new spin is that they are better without Carmelo. Yeah, right! They may have eliminated the distractions and put together a nice stretch to end the season, but come the playoffs, they will miss Carmelo and Chauncey. Those are 2 been there and done that players that have had post season success. Gallinari and Chandler, who the Nugs acquired in the Melo trade, have never been to the playoffs. The Carmelo trade was the first step in the Nuggets rebuilding. They got some nice pieces for the future, but they won't make much noise in the playoffs this year, IMO.


@STAPLES24.... Outstanding posts regarding Bynum vs. Howard. Lots of IF’s for Bynum but really it’s only about staying healthy. Your point regarding how much he has matured and grown as a man and a player despite all the injuries speaks worlds about the kid’s potential. How many 23-year old players have the intelligence and character to come to the conclusion that Drew did that he would focus on defense and rebounds rather than scoring. The kid is smart AND wise.
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@LTLF... Good point that none of us are saying that Drew is the better center right now. That title still belongs to Dwight. What we are saying is that if Drew can stay healthy and play like he has since the All-Star break and the Lakers three-peat, he may well surpass Dwight Howard by the time that Howard becomes a free agent. If the Magic offered a trade of Dwight for Drew today, the Lakers would probably jump at the deal. On the other hand, every game that Drew dominates changes the dynamics of that situation.
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@BAY TO LA... Thanks for your response. We obviously have been watching different games or are seeing different things on the court. I wonder if there are any other bloggers out there who think Howard is a better offensive player than Bynum. If so, they would have to be stat-junkies who don’t understand how teammates and team roles and priorities affect players’ statistics. This would be a great question for MM to run a poll. In the meantime, I vote for Bynum as the better offensive player and you vote for Howard. Let’s see what everybody else thinks. If you want, we can even put up a friendly wager on the subject. The better offensive center – Drew or Dwight.
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@PSP... Practice Season Police, Regular Season Police, Practice Season Intern, Practice Season Architect, Practice Season President... Lots of different handles and names for somebody who claims that they have never posted under any handle but Practice Season Police. Guess it’s time to write yourself a ticket. Only question is what name to use for the ticket writer and the recipient.
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TOM

@GDub...

Thanks for the links and introduction to Maya Azucena! Me likes she!!

Hi LRob - I gotta tell ya - the blog has degenerated to such an extent that it's not much fun posting anymore. But for you, I came on to say hey - hey!

I had some Stevie on the iPod this morning - good stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylQMhYqSntk

I'm looking forward to the game tonight, and am fully expecting the Show to make the Heat cry. Although these days that really doesn't seem to be much of a challenge.... :) That said, I won't freak if we lose as long as I see effort and activity. Everything else will take care of itself when the PO's start. This team has way too much talent and determination to not 3peat.

GO LAKERS!!

Yo Lrob

Still chillin like a villain with my Tivo experiment.. Win I watch lose I delete its that simple... So seen the last 8 but 2nite I will watch regardless.. I'm looking very forward to RON RON vs BRON BRON
and barnes vs dwade.


Checked out the last threads and all I can say is wow! I couldn't believe the amount of energy spent on the Dwight versus Drew debate. Look, my only hope is that Drew maintains his health for the rest of his career. The Lakers have a championship to win THIS year. Drew is their center. The Show needs Drew to accomplish its goal.

All the down the road speculation is pretty meaningless at this point. If the Miami Heat can teach us anything, it's not to look too far ahead. Here's a crew that thinks a mid-July photo op is the same as winning a title and proclaims themselves ready for 5, 6 or 7. Well they already have 5 straight losses and are staring at #6 tonight.

Drew or Dwight will sort itself out in its own time. Lakers @ Heat tonight. That's what I'm interested in.

LMAO...I rest my case your honor...

#17 Coming Up!!!

@GDub...

Thanks for the links and introduction to Maya Azucena! Me likes she!!

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 10, 2011 at 01:22 PM
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GDUB - Oops I meant to post yesterday. I agree 10000% with Bronxlakerfan. Maya's got it going on. I really like that cut "Set You Free".

Compadre Edwin - I apologize to you and the rest of the blog if I have veered away the topic of the blog in anyway...I have said my peace, and I have nothing else to say about Vietnam...

You are absolutely right...Lakers are on a mission, and I agree with a post earlier, that we should all be concentrating on our cosmic energy and support to our boys...

We have unfinished business...to keep this Dynasty rolling...

#17 Coming Up!!!

Hi LRob - I gotta tell ya - the blog has degenerated to such an extent that it's not much fun posting anymore. But for you, I came on to say hey - hey!

Posted by: justanothermambafan | March 10, 2011 at 01:24 PM

Justa...good to hear from you. Trust me, this site loses a lot when gals like you give up on it. I agree that sometimes is dissolves into a debating society where Bball is an afterthought. But your presence helps keep it true to its original purpose, which is to discuss Laker basketball.

HELLO there's a reason why so few chat over on the renegade chat
they should call it the boring pom pom chat, where we console those whose feelings get hurt or their opinions arent held in great reverance on the LA Times laker blog

so pitifully sad

Posted by: non interested fourth party | March 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM

"non interested" fourth party, that's actually kind of bizarre handle, cuz it sure seems like you're obsessed with whatever is going on at the RC chat room.

And as for "so pitifully sad" what is sadder than spying on people, people supposedly you're not interested in, then running back to mommy/Main Blog, to tell on those people who you're not interested in. Now that is what I call "pitifully sad."

Normally I wouldn't pick on someone who has the kind of self-esteem problems you have, but oh brother, you're just crying out for the attention. Just let it go man and get a good self-help book. You'll be OK!

BynumTom

The PSP can see you are still taking cheap shots at the PSP. The PSP has always posted as Practice Season Police but with a different signature depending on which personality is posting.

Anyway the PSP is starting to sound like a broken record saying that I DO NOT POST UNDER MULTIPLE HANDLES! Oy Vey! How hard is that to understand??? BynumTom can you hear me?

Thanks
PSP Intern

@Justa – Of course it hasn’t been much fun CAUSE you haven’t been around. Now poke your head in at least once a day and say SUP. Now boogie on….loving Stevie always. I’m looking forward to the game tonight, but I must admit not as much as Saturday night in Dallas.


@Lew – I think that’s been the first visit by Waka Flocka – keeping It current…and Fabulous got skills…like that one except for the Paul Pierce reference. Oh and I posted on your rivalry set the other day…you must’ve missed it. But here are my comments below….
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@Lew - classic Biggie....Pink Gators My Detroit Playas...haha! Yep rivalries don't get no better than Pac vs. Biggie. Like the Lakers you're getting in a post season mindset.
Posted by: LRob | March 08, 2011 at 04:15 PM

jamf,

>>>I gotta tell ya - the blog has degenerated to such an extent that it's not much
>>>fun posting anymore. But for you, I came on to say hey - hey!

Seriously? Don't you remember what it was like back when Mike T and OUTLAW and KL Beast were spewing their bile here?

The blog is much more civil than it was in those days. Sure someone still stoops to name calling (usually because their arguments are unsupported so attacking the other blogger is their only recourse), but for the most part I find it a much more friendly place.

>>>I'm all about positivity but if anyone questions Bynum's knees, they are
>>>losers and I will squash them like bugs,

I hope you're right. I'm hoping it was all just bad luck and he's past it now.

But if he isn't, I'll definitely fart in your general direction and tell you to go away before I taunt you a second time.

:-)


@PSP... The name is LakerTom, not BynumTom. I address you by your chosen name and have come to accept you as a fellow blogger and not a troll. Please give me the same respect. I am not taking cheap shots at you but the multiple personality issue still bothers me. Please confirm that you never posted as the Regular Season Police. If not, then I will accept that you have only posted as PSP. That is unless I have to ask Intern, President, and Architect individually to get a straight answer. Thanks.
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TOM

But if he isn't, I'll definitely fart in your general direction and tell you to go away before I taunt you a second time. :-) Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | March 10, 2011 at 01:47 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preach LTLF, Preach!!!

Nothing to apologize Lew, I think you have the right to vent and release that pressure within you. When you are playing poker and had been winning for 8 consecutive times, it's hard to be gracious in keeping the enjoyment of the winners take all syndrome. It has to be communicated to fellow players. I hear ya and all Bynum detractors in us ate our crows. I have to admit that I enjoyed eating my "adobo" crow anytime, in exchange of Lakers resurgence because of the change in Bynum.

Let peace reigns and tell 888 to come back and blog with us, after all we are all Laker fans. I just ask a little moderation in expressing our passion.

We have unfinished business...to keep this Dynasty rolling...
#17 Coming Up!!! Posted by: LEWSTRS | March 10, 2011 at 01:40 PM
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! We need to attend to the job at hand Folks!!! Which is...Which shoes Princess Jimmy should wear when he does the RiverDance tonight. Suggestions? LongTime?

@LakerTom

@FRMKT... LOL. The odds of Dwight demanding a trade to the Lakers are pretty low. In fact, when is the last time a major superstar entering free agency “demanded” to be traded to a specific team? Frankly, I cannot remember this ever happening. From everything I know about Howard, he does not seem to be a prima donna type who would make demands. For sure, it’s a long shot.

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Well, Carmello comes to mind and teams have now become proactive in regards to trading players who they feel are not committed to a contract extension – D Williams and S Perkins. As far as Dwight is concerned, there have been "leaks" that he would like to play in L.A. I hope it happens. Dwight is a "brute" right now and with some coaching under Kareem and others, he will have an all around, well polished dominant game. I’m not giving up on Bynum as long as he’s on the team, but if you have an opportunity to trade for the best center in the league, then you do it. We’ll see the match up on 14 March.


But this is all down the road and so far, Bynum has remained HEALTHY – everyone’s biggest concern, accidental injuries or not - and has embraced his defensive role on this team. Right now, the team has to play for HCA in The Finals and at assuming they can continue to win the remaining games on the schedule including Orlando on 14 March, they should have no problem doing so because the rest of the schedule is littered with "beatable" teams.

Let peace reigns and tell 888 to come back and blog with us, after all we are all Laker fans. I just ask a little moderation in expressing our passion. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 10, 2011 at 01:53 PM
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GOD##@@!!!! Give it to him!! Give it to him right NOW!!!!
RCOTD = EDWIN GUECO = OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! KUDOS!!
And I, Yes I, Mamba24, also support LEWSTRS!!!!!!

We're talking about the Thuggets? Really?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LEWSTRS,

>>>Vlade Divac had more offensive moves than Shaq.

Not even close. Shaq had an EXTENSIVE offensive arsenal.

>>>Vlade also had a better outside shot and better FT's,

That part is true. But Shaq was such a dominating force in the post that he NEVER NEEDED to shoot from outside. Not so with Vlade.

>>> so obviously Vlade is better offensively than Shaq. Same goes for Bynum.

straw man argument.

Shaq shot a higher percentage than Vlade and could not be moved out of the post. He just out-muscled his opponents. Vlade sometimes had no choice but to shoot from outside.

And the difference between Shaq and Vlade on defense was staggering.

So basically, Shaq was better than Vlade on both ends of the court.

Howard is clearly a better defender than Bynum. There's a good chance Howard will get defensive player of the year, so it's not just my opinion, but a near consensus of the league. If Bynum keeps working at it, he could get to that level, but so far he's never stayed healthy for long enough to work up to that dominating level that Howard has always been at.

Howard hits a higher percentage of his shots than Bynum, and has shown a wider variety of offensive moves than he has in the past. Last season, I would have said that Bynum had the better offensive game. Now it's pretty close. Bynum gets less touches, so we don't know what he's capable of averaging. If he was on Minnesota, I'm sure Kurt would post him up every time down the floor and he might be averaging comparable numbers to Howard.

But as it stands, I'd say that Bynum and Howard currently have equally varied and potent offensive games, and Howard only leads on stats because he gets many more touches.

So call Bynum & Howard general offensive game a tie, with Bynum having an advantage on free throw shooting. And Howard with a better defensive game, highlighted by his rebounding.

But the really big number is 4.

That's the number of games that Dwight Howard has missed in his 7 years in the league. And one of them was for a technical foul suspension.

If Bynum had played all but 4 games since he came in the league, I'm guessing he would already have been an All-Star twice and the Lakers would currently be trying for a FOUR-peat, not a three-peat.

Byn ...LakerTom

First of all, the PSP has stated this a millions times already and like the PSP said its starting to sound like a broken record. Yes you address me by my chosen name BUT you also accuse me of posting under different names. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks eh?

There are things about certain bloggers here that the PSP do not agree with but we all have to live with that; afterall this blog is nobody's private residence.

Btw this is the Intern; only the big boys and the worthy get a post from the VP himself.

Thanks
PSP Intern

LRob - sorry about that...i figured it was me who missed your post and not you who missed mine...I should of know better, cuz nothing slips by you on the blog...

I want to give you a new designation...

While it's Mambas who is the glue and spirit that keeps this board together...

You my friend would have to be the Sentinel...

Sentinel LRob from Detriot...on our team baybee!!!

Normally I wouldn't pick on someone who has the kind of self-esteem problems you have, but oh brother, you're just crying out for the attention. Just let it go man and get a good self-help book. You'll be OK! Posted by: RC Police | March 10, 2011 at 01:44 PM
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I like this Police!! Well said officer!!! In fact...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! KUDOS!!!

Since Justa went Stevie, I will too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc0XEw4m-3w

While it's Mambas who is the glue and spirit that keeps this board together...
You my friend would have to be the Sentinel...Sentinel LRob from Detriot...on our team baybee!!! Posted by: LEWSTRS | March 10, 2011 at 02:03 PM
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Waaaaaaa! Waaaaaa! I wanna be the Sentinel!! LRob can be the Glue!! Waaaaa! Waaaa!!!

"@BAY TO LA... Thanks for your response. We obviously have been watching different games or are seeing different things on the court. I wonder if there are any other bloggers out there who think Howard is a better offensive player than Bynum. If so, they would have to be stat-junkies who don’t understand how teammates and team roles and priorities affect players’ statistics. This would be a great question for MM to run a poll. In the meantime, I vote for Bynum as the better offensive player and you vote for Howard. Let’s see what everybody else thinks. If you want, we can even put up a friendly wager on the subject. The better offensive center – Drew or Dwight.
TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | March 10, 2011 at 01:21 PM "

I don't think I'm being a stat junkie in this. I do see that players could flourish in one offense and be a wallflower in another and I agree the Lakers aren't looking for Bynum to be a dominating scorer inside. That being said, if he had the ability to do so, I don't think they'd hold him back from that because a dominating center can score more efficiently than anyone.

Bynum doesn't really have a lot of quickness to explode past other centers. If he gets some space, he can hit a shot but in man to man coverage underneath, he doesn't really have a move that can he dominate with. I just don't see a reliable around the basket game where you can feed him the ball inside and let him create. Otherwise I think the Lakers would be utilizing it often.

I don't have an interest in Dwight being a better offensive player than Bynum and I don't know if there is an easy way to prove it anyhow but up to this point, that's how I see it. Even if it is only because of his supreme athleticism, he's still better on that side.

@LRob...my message for the Lakers..."Can't Stop Now" by Paul Hardcastle featuring Steve Menzies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8BOuoVkZik

OK so it's STEVIE day. Then here's my contribution: dedicated to Mrs. Mamba24... That vicious, vicious woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgUiTNq0uYA - Rocket Love

frmkt,

"Bynum has remained HEALTHY – everyone’s biggest concern, accidental injuries or not - and has embraced his defensive role on this team."

Drew has been sprinkled with Irish luck lately, stealing it from the banished leprechaun, Perkins. Let's toast for continued good luck on his health with Irish saying and kiddie happy songs.

"A wish that every day for you will be happy from the start and may you always have good luck and a song within your heart."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrsM9WggCdo

Personally, I think it's "Wonder"-ful that Stevie took time out of his busy schedule to tell the Heat...."You Haven't Done Nothin'".....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji2ma2mfyhU

And a final Stevie also to Mrs. mamba24 in closing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7oxc-UtUFE&feature=related

@HBMatt
Trevor was a PERFECT fit within the triangle and playing alongside Kobe. He doesn't get as many wide open shots since he doesn't play with Kobe, Pau, Drew, or L.O.
I have been enamoured with Ron during times, but he still hasn't fit into the triangle very well.
Also, Trevor's foot speed on the defensive end, his cutting to open spaces on the floor, and ability to finish at the rim cannot be denied.

Bynum vs Howard debate should be saved for the middle of next year, when the potential of the swap actually happening is more relevant. I like Drew, but I would take Howard because of the durability factor.

Since I was observing my neighborhood crows this morning while eating my breakfast, my first selection of the day is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-OPwpQCwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-OPwpQCwk

I think you have the right to vent and release that pressure within you.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 10, 2011 at 01:53 PM

Yeah really Lewester, I suggest take a fork and see if you are well done or if it is indeed a hot air, then I suggest use a sharp needle to release that stale air causing you to threaten others.

I think you have the right to vent and release that pressure within you.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 10, 2011 at 01:53 PM

Yeah really Lewester, I suggest take a fork and see if you are well done or if it is indeed a hot air, then I suggest use a sharp needle to release that stale air causing you to threaten others.

Bynum probably has more tools than Howard, but isn't as reliable from an injury standpoint. He's also not asked to carry the team offensively, in part because of his injuries. Playing with Kobe as No. 1, Gasol as No. 2 is hard.

Go Laker's beat Cryami!! @Lewstrs.. Are you and Lewesters one of the same?
@Mamba24.. if any new Bandwagons, I'm on!! @Laker Tom....I'm guessing Bynum goes 15 pts 20 rebounds!!!!!!!!!!!!

Staples24,

you wrote:

You follow what I'm getting at, because you are a Bynum basher, you don't see it the way it should be. 18/12 for Howard as the LONE SUPERSTAR IN HIS OWN TEAM. Shaq average a lot more than that.

my response: Through the marvels of modern technology we can know
exactly what Shaq did as the lone superstar on his team.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bynuman01.html

3rd year in the NBA

Shaq 29 pts 11.4 rebounds 2.4 blks teammates Nick Anderson, Horace Grant, Anfernee Hardaway & Dennis Scott. Anfernee Hardaway was an allstar.

Hold on. Shaq wasn't alone like Howard was. Nor was Bynum alone like
Howard was.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardaan01.html

Howard 17.6 pts 12.3 rebounds 1.9 blocks. Teammates Grant Hill, Turk, Nelson. Nobody was an allstar.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bynuman01.html

Bynum 13 pts 10.2 rebounds 2.1 blks. teammates Kobe, LO. nobody else of
significance. Had 3 years of tutelage under Kareem. Kobe was an all-star.

Due to a masochistic nature I took quite a number of math classes as I
attempted to be a Chemical Engineer. In none of my math classes did they
ever tell me that 10.2 is a greater number than 12.3 [ real numbers ]. They
also did not tell me that 13 is a greater number than 17.6.

If I'm looking at things correctly, regardless of whether there was a fellow
all-star on the team or not, both Shaq & DH performed better than Bynum.

So ... How does this make Bynum superior to Howard? No. I'm not bashing.
You've made a statement which I don't understand. I'd like to. Why don't
you educate me?

I don;t care what anybody say... Mariah Carey can sing her @zz off...Hit it Mariah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLM0U7Fn-aA&feature=related - It's Like that

Posted by: LEWSTRS | March 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM

If it is not my IP then are you willing to ride on top of a donkey with your face smeared in ...t?


re: Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum & offense.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/630016-nba-power-rankings-dwight-howard-and-the-10-best-low-post-players#page/1

snippet:
Even with a developing jump shot and developing post game, courtesy of Hakeem Olajuwon, Dwight Howard has become just as scary from an offensive stand point. Averaging a career high 23 points per game, he has begun to show a more polished offensive game that has corresponded with his points increase and role with the team. The team has become more dangerous with Dwight spacing out the floor even more when he begins hitting bank shots from 10 to 15 feet.

before any of you [ Staples24 or Lewsters ] refers to me as a basher ...

I did a google search on Dwight Howard and offensive game. Feel free to
do the same. I tried not to read the articles in the Orlando Sentinel due to
bias. :)

http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/5/14/874748/on-dwight-howard-at-the-offensive

[ yes, it did feel odd going to a celtics blog, but hey. they know what they're
facing on the regular. ]

snippet:
With all that said, the notion that Howard isn't a good offensive player is just as silly as the idea that he's an irresistible force at that end. Being consistently productive and efficient at the offensive end makes you good at the absolute minimum in my book. Howard fits that bill, averaging 20.7 points per game on 57.2 percent field-goal shooting. As bad as his foul shooting is, Howard still posted a 60 percent true shooting mark this season, good for 21st in the league. He finished in the top 10 in each of the two previous seasons, and his 59.7 percent career true shooting mark is fifth among active players.

Howard gets the job done by making deep catches and dominating the offensive glass. As poor as he shoots once he even gets outside the restricted area, Howard can overpower most of the league with his blend of strength, quickness and leaping ability if he gets position and the ball down low.

FOLKS am I dreaming or has Mother Teresa manifested herself in this blog through blogs saint Edwin Gueco?

Let peace reigns and tell 888 to come back and blog with us, after all we are all Laker fans. I just ask a little moderation in expressing our passion. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 10, 2011 at 01:53 PM

Hobbit,

Are you saying Howard would be the #1 option if he were a Laker?

And finally one last Mariah Carey cut to....Yes Yes Yes Justanothermambafan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZG2duVte4&feature=relmfu - I still believe.

Posted by: hobbitmage | March 10, 2011 at 02:34 PM

According to the blanket statement made by lakertom's disciple Lewester below and I noticed you are being referenced below because of code word ***stats*** that means you Sir know jack about BB, a pity.

Whoever thinks Bynum is not the best center in the league knows nothing about basketball and only cares about stats. These guys are wanna be Laker fans and bandwagon losers. LMAO. These idiots know nothing and just love to hate on Bynum. Sure, if Bynum was in Orlando, he would see more double and triple teams, like Dwight does, but it's obvious that Bynum would shoot a higher percentage and would have less turnovers if he had more defenders focused on him. That's so plain to see. I wish Kobe and Gasol were not on this team so Bynum could be the #1 option and prove me right once again. Get a life haters. LMAO.

#17 COMING UP!

Posted by: LEWSTERS | March 10, 2011 at 02:31 PM

It may or may not be true that the Nuggets will finish 6th.

But, I promise you that the Lakers will not face the 6th seed in the first round.

:-)

Well... okay, so my opinion is based on the Lakers actually showing up the rest of the season, and so far, it looks like they'll try and do that

Sorry Folks but I'm renouncing my Lakers Blog citizenship and am seeking refuge at Renegade Chat. This Civil war is killing me!!!

Mamba24,

Stop being a wimp! Get back here.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

A nice read about our favorite Black Mamba....

http://tinyurl.com/4nw769r

The reason we are even discussing about this article is because it is so outragous. If someone says all the right things, those wont be even gotten noticed. I just hope so called sports writers can be more accountable for what they write about than just being sensational to get attention. I think there are so many irresponsible writers just trying to get attention than trying to be right. You know who they are....

LTLF,

I was "spewing bile"? Ouch. I've always tried to keep the blog a pretty positive place, although I admit to having a few bones to pick with Mike T. Come on... the Little Lieutenant brought out the worst in all of us!

Go Lake Show!

Yeah, Mr LEWSTERS, you really don't understand basketball AT ALL ! Lets not forget that Bynum is 23 years old. Thats the only reason to cut him some slack. He's learning the game, and we never should have entertained any trade offers. That being said please do not attempt to compare his game to that of Abdul Jabbar. Its just plain ridiculous. His defense may never compare to that of Bill Russell. He's just not mean enough. And do you really think Bynum is the teams best high fly act ? You must be about 13 1/2. At least you are a Laker fan. But you should be embarrassed by your observations. You really don't have a clue about this game. But enjoy non-the-less.

Hobbitmage,

A Finals game 7 scenario 4th Qtr. Lakers are down 2 points with 5 seconds on the clock. With all his skill and athleticism, do you give DHoward the ball in the paint?

Yes or No?

Hey there, Mamba24,

Do you have any contact with Faith these days? I miss her.

Go Lake Show!


Hobbit,

Are you saying Howard would be the #1 option if he were a Laker?

Posted by: ChicNstu | March 10, 2011 at 02:48 PM

______

If Kobe is still around if and when he arrives, he'd be silly not to go inside first! That would take the "inside-out" game to a whole different level! It would be like the 2nd coming of Shaq coupled with a mature Kobe. Kobe would last another 6 years in the league racking up championships if he would embrace the "inside-out" game with Dwight in the middle, Pau at the 4 and Kobe at the 2 or 1 spot. D-Y-N-A-S-T-Y lives on!

The things I'd like to see tonight:

- Defensive intensity.
- Drew anchoring the paint and challenging every shot without fouling.
- Ball movement, especially to the weak side for easy entry passes to the bigs.
- Aggressive drives to the hoop.
- Limited turnovers.
- Front court domination.
- A "W" for the Lake Show, regardless of the final score. Whether by 1 point or 20, I don't care.

Go Lake Show!

P.S. Not saying you can't do it with Bynum in the future - it's all contingent upon his ability to remain injury free, accidental or not - and that's one of the main reasons why you would swap him for Dwight. Health does matter and Howard is quite the specimen and a proven track record to go with it.

frmkt,

Inside out ball is the way to go. Im just wondering if Hobittmage thinks D12 should be the #1 option or if Kobe should be the #1 option.

>>>Whoever thinks Bynum is not the best center in the league knows nothing
>>>about basketball and only cares about stats.

Seriously? You're seriously saying that Bynum is already better than Dwight Howard?

Well, to each his own.

And to everyone who thinks that the Lakers are better than the Knicks as a franchise only cares about stats of how many championships they've won.

@chic -

I heare ya .. i was just participating and injecting my own .02. I think Dwight should be the 1st option. He's improving his free throws. He's going to demand a double from the opponent's 4 which will leave Pau open for his sweet jumper - he likes to play away from the basket - and Kobe can be #3. He may not break anymore scoring records but he'll extend his playing time and win many more championships. He wants Bill Russell "rings," then that would be his chance and still be a notable participant.

Outlaw,

>>>I was "spewing bile"? Ouch. I've always tried to keep the blog a pretty
>>>positive place, although I admit to having a few bones to pick with Mike T.
>>>Come on... the Little Lieutenant brought out the worst in all of us!

I'm not sure. are you the same blogger who used to post with OUTLAW in all caps? And who was raging all over Kobe at the same time as KL Beast was? I might be confusing you with another blogger with a similar name.

Anyway, there was a blogger at that time who I recall (possibly incorrectly) went by OUTLAW. And he was posting in the same vein as KL Beast... "Kobe sucks"... "Nobody wants to play on Kobe's team"... "Kobe is a ball hog"... blah blah blah.

They never really discussed anything else, all they did was "spew bile" about Kobe.

And of course, in that same time frame, Mike T was posting about 3 topics only: 1. how bad a coach Phil Jackson is. 2. How great Kwame Brown is. 3. How bad Andrew Bynum is.

As I said, I could be confusing you with someone else. If so, my apologies.

Sorry Folks but I'm renouncing my Lakers Blog citizenship and am seeking refuge at Renegade Chat (RC). This Civil war is killing me!!!

Posted by: Mamba24 | March 10, 2011 at 02:57 PM


Hark! Hark!! Ye hear!!

Let this be known, today March 10, 2011 at 02:57 PM is a very special day. The southerns are claiming independence from the Yanks, and are now holding up inside Fort Caswell aka RC. We wonder how long the rebels will continue to hide at FC aka RC.

LongTimeLakerFan

This is a different OUTLAW. lol

Thanks
PSP Intern

Just hope that the Lakers don't get caught up in Miami's BS! They are just another opponent that needs to get beat. IF...the Lakers win tonight and the Mavs lose, the Lakers will have hold on the 2nd seed in the West. This is an important game.

GO LAKERS!!!
17 IN '11!!!

What's wrong with all you people. He was talking about the Nuggets not having a chance against Dallas or San Antonio and that their best chance was a first round matchup against the Lakers.

"There is no way they can beat the Spurs or the Mavericks, and probably no way they can beat the Lakers, but they should win a couple."

Sup peeps! Wow, the music selections are off the charts today...y'all been rollin' up in here.:-)

~

@bLF & LRob: Glad y'all liked Maya, she's really a very talented sistah, indeed.

~

Well, since so many were feelin' Stevie today, here's my choice. I fell in love with this song in my early youth and it's still my all-time fav by the great one. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjIIY41w6yI

~

Well, as we creep up on gametime I have to say, I'm really pumped for this game. Yeah...Yeah...I know it's just a 'practice season' game but, I can't forget how LBJ was jawing back and forth with Mamba in that Christmas day game and I want the Ls to shut his trap tonite.:-)

Anyhoo, see y'all on the chat.

~


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

Folks someone stole Lew’s handle earlier and posted outrageous stuff. They even misspelled his handle for a while before they corrected it. You should be able to tell the real Lew from an impostor.

 
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