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Lakers and Ron Artest collectively ensure he keeps his cool following Marc Gasol's hard foul

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He played physical, but he only displayed that between the whistles.

He showed anger, but he didn't retaliate.

And he revealed vulnerability, but he allowed others to help.

Ron Artest's reaction to Marc Gasol's inadvertent elbow with 34 seconds remaining in the third quarter of a 93-84 Lakers' victory Monday over the Memphis Grizzlies had little bearing on the outcome, but it told everything about his relationship with the team.

This isn't a post about Artest becoming a changed man since that incident six years ago at the Palace, where he reacted to a fan throwing a beer at him by charging into the stands, fighting him, drawing an 73-game suspension and a year's probation after pleading no contest to assault charges and putting his career in jeopardy. He's shown through his on-court actions, his promotion for mental health charities and his genuine friendliness that he's well past that toxic persona.

This isn't a post about how Artest avoided an altercation with Gasol, juxtaposed with his reaction as a Houston Rocket in which he confronted Kobe Bryant after elbowing him to the throat two years ago in the 2009 playoffs. Ever since signing with the Lakers in the 2009 off-season to a five-year, $33-million contract, Artest hasn't had any such incidents.

No, this post is about how the collective effort both the Lakers and Artest made in ensuring he kept his composure serves as the latest example of the positive reinforcement the team's trying to provide, while Artest further ingratiates himself with the Lakers. That doesn't mean there won't be further issues. For example, ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reported that the Lakers unsuccessfully tried to trade him last week to the Charlotte Bobcats. It's also conceivable the Lakers would make other efforts in replacing Artest, whose offensive and defensive inconsistency has contributed to the up-and-down season. But for now, the Lakers are trying to make the best of the situation. 

"Ron knows how to remove himself from situations like that," Coach Phil Jackson told reporters, including The Times' Mike Bresnahan. "He got out of there instead of standing in and getting in a confrontation … that could contain any problems."

Here's what happened: Artest doubled up on Gasol in the post with Lakers forward Lamar Odom, scrapped for the ball, Gasol swung his hands around, Artest swiped the ball and then received an inadvertent elbow to the nose. 

Artest covered his face, ran to the end of the court and hunched over. Even though he removed himself from the situation he was far from happy with his nose bleeding and appearing crooked. He glared at Gasol, walked past trainer Gary Vitti, walked past Jackson and the rest of the team for that manner. It appeared Artest wanted to control his emotions first, but he continued showing frustration, pushing Vitti's hands away while he was being treated.

The Lakers still remained engaged with Artest. As Vitti treated Artest's nose and stuck what Bresnahan reported to be a nose plug made of cotton, Kobe Bryant shared words of encouragement and patted him on the head. Lakers assistant coach Chuck Person, a longtime Artest confidant, also spoke to him.  

"We have a relationship where even though things may get a little crazy for him," Bryant told reporters, including Bresnahan, "I’ll go up to him and check on him and make sure he’s alright and he’ll respond. So, I just wanted to make sure he’s OK." 

Artest responded in appropriate fashion in accepting Gasol's apology, but the blurry vision in his eyes and rattled focused surely contributed to his missed free throws. It was a point of emphasis Jackson shared with reporters afterward in which he credited Artest with avoiding a confrontation but wanting him to let those emotions go. But the Lakers were there to provide sympathy, including Pau Gasol, who played the delicate role in wanting to avoid a conflict between Artest, and his brother Marc, while understanding Artest's frustration. 

This episode perfectly illustrated Artest's continual flux in trying to do the right thing albeit with mixed results. The team's reaction perfectly illustrated its approach in trying to look out for Artest. Unless a trade happens, this will be the only option both the Lakers and Artest will have in ensuring a co-dependant relationship.

"It looks a little bit crooked," Artest said to reporters, including ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin, who also reported that the nose is swollen. "I just got to ice it and hopefully it’s not broke … It should be alright. We got these great trainers, they’ll fix me up." 

-- Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina

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Photo: Grizzlies guard Tony Allen and Lakers forward Ron Artest try to track down a loose ball in the second half Monday night in Memphis. Credit: Mark Weber / Reuters

 
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I would be disappointed to see Artest traded away. I love what this guy brings to the court, especially during the playoffs. When things slow down and every possession matters, Ron's defense against the league's best will be showcased once again. He was an integral part of the championship last year, and I think he'll play a similar role this year.

Go Lake Show!

@ Outlaw, I agree wholeheartedly about Ron's defense in the playoffs. He also tends to do well on the big stage.

Also, for the record:

I don't think this team needs a trade to bring the three-peat to fruition. They simply need to wake up, get ready for the second half of the season, and start playing like it matters again. Time to string together a solid, momentum-builder win-streak.

We'll see that soon. I guarantee it.

Go Lake Show!

Art,

Well, by now you know what GHE mean? General Headquarters of the Empire. The word trolls are being used loosely as a byword if you're going against the grain. Which is more important the player or the team? I guess any logical fan will tell you at this time that without hesitation and consideration of other factors, Melo is the better player than Bynum. Melo is a franchise player of the Nuggets while Bynum has been the professional patient of Dr. Altchek. He's dangling his importance because his backers like Jimbo is strong enough to hold on to him.

McClyne,

This young Bynum is still growing up, he could either be King Kong or just Sponge Bob with his weak knees. To this day, I have not heard him being grateful to the Cap who taught him all these post moves. I could sense some sort of entitlement being the pet of Jimbo. How many Laker Centers or for that matter NBA Centers who received free one-on-one from legends of the game?

Kendrick Perkins already looks close to 100% after major knee surgery. Bynum, after minor surgery still looks hurt. Get a clue people.

YOU DONT PASS ON MELO

Time for Mitch, PJ, and Kobe to go directly to Jerry Buss.

Jimmy Buss give it up, let Bynumb completely break down with another team. The handwriting has been on the wall for 3 years now.

@LROB... I hope you were just being funny because that is a very unfair and blatantly unflattering interpretation of my comments. I think every Lakers fan who cares about this team is going to be focused on how Pau Gasol plays against Kevin Garnett in Thursday night’s rematch. We now know that the KG that is going to show up this June is the KG from the 2008 Finals. The big question is which Pau Gasol is going to show up. The soft one who got schooled by KG in 2008 or the more aggressive Pau who outplayed a less than 100% KG in 2010. Unless you’ve cancelled your League Pass and signed up for the Extreme version of MVP’s practice season philosophy, you might want to watch how Pau plays this Thursday night. Believe it or not, his matchup with KG is critical. Frankly, if KG punks him again, then Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak might be concerned enough to consider trading Pau for Melo. Not saying that is what is going to happen, but the odds that the Lakers might consider a Pau for Melo trade will definitely go up if Pau gets outplayed again.

Posted by: LakerTom | February 08, 2011 at 02:03 PM
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I interpreted your statement to mean Pau needs to perform big this Thursday or he may get traded. Did I interpret that correctly? Yes, I was being sarcastic, but I don’t feel it was unfair. Unflattering maybe, but your statement was unflattering toward Pau. Pau has been the #2 reason the Lakers have been to the finals 3 straight years and won back 2 back titles. After watching him for three years I understand what he brings to the table and how he’ll perform against KG if they meet Boston in the playoffs. I don’t need this one game as a test. To suggest this game Thursday is the” be all end all” is extreme.


When Mitch mentioned the Lakers might have to explore trades last week you latched on the Pau for Melo. You refused to even acknowledge that Drew might be considered. Now when an article comes out saying there are talks about Drew for Melo…you somehow deflect it back to Pau. Amazing. You’ve been taking shots a Pau consistently for the last few weeks. Some of it he deserves. Yet you’re rarely critical of Drew. That is what I call unfair.


When BShaw said Pau AND Drew are both nice guys and thus play like it, you ignored his comment on Drew. Instead you posted yesterday that Drew is an “alpha male”. You also suggested Drew is ready to dominate like a young Shaq. I asked what had he done to suggest that and I didn’t hear anything but crickets. It was one thing for you overhype Drew, but now I feel you’re also downplaying Pau’s contributions. That’s unfair.


BTW, KG is a first ballot HOFer. He’s a great defensive player. It’s not exactly chopped liver that Pau is going up against.

@Lakertruth... Those comments were not reported by rotoworld.. Rotoworld is reporting what adrian wojnarowski reported on his twitter account.. Rotoworld is not a news agency.. They just report what is being reported... But u deserve the ROCTD when u say a two legged melo is better than one legged bynum!! LOL

@lakertom.. Don't u think ur overreacting just a lil bit to Lrobs comments?! I think ur the one that may be doing the grossly and unfairly misinterpreting here!!

Edwin,

Funny post.
Your translation for GHE, I hadn't heard that before, whatcha got for GHF?
Jim Buss? Well, if the Lakers don't win it all or if Bynum gets injured again this year Buss is going to have to buy a large bottle of egg face cleaner.
Perhaps he can't see the forest because a tree is in his way.

I pretty much agree with mosts posts above,so I guess you can say I am for a trade.Who am I kidding if it's true(doubt it tho) ship hiss @55 out!!!! I really can't say I'm impressed with the way the teams been playing.I said b4 they usually lose about 5 games they shouldn't have each season. To me they have already passed their quota,dunno maybe it's because I pay more attention to the games now.All in all a lot of peeps are talking about matchups,chemistry,etc,Good points all but there just isn't no guarentee. I understand as fans, feeling the lakeshow will be there in june,but who's to say it will be the celts for sure... Again if true it's hard to pass up.If it doesn't happen(because of jim buss for example)and the lakers aren't champs come june, he can definately look forward to a public flogging in the city square..lol

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | February 08, 2011 at 03:34 PM

reposted..so many threads up ..........

Hello,

Police here. Great posts by LRob; this is why you were nominated for MVB of the year. Bynum Tom is slowly becoming like Mike T and his obsession over the golden calves, and he may not even realize it.

Just in case it's not clear, Gasol >>>>>>>> Bynum and anyone who thinks otherwise is not being true to themselves. To compare Bynum to Shaq is an insult to the Big Malcontent and what he achieved during those dominant years.

Anyway the PSP believe that the trade rumors are just that, rumors!

Even though Pau is a soft forward and a finesse center, there is no comparison for their contribution to the Lakers in the last three years. They may complement each other like last night but scoring-wise, Gasol has more upsides than Bynum. Gasol could post, hook, set shot, lay up while Bynum goes with this monster dunk. In his excitement to dunk, he gets into 3 seconds or TO. Besides, Gasol is acclaimed an international player that won the gold medal, Bynum could not even chosen in the All Star Game. At this point, there is no comparison between Bynum or Gasol. Bynum's ace card is Jimbo and that is his edge over Gasol. One more injury in the offing, Jimbo would also let him go. By that time, Melo's opportunity may also be gone, PJ is gone and Kobe will be on the downward curve due to aging or call it wear and tear because of too many games played. There is only one Kareem who reached Age 42 and still at the peak of his game.

LakerTom, Bynum is like your fondness of Sefolosha or Tyrus Thomas when I first met u in the blog. I also like Bynum but look at the opportunity on hand, it is time to let go.

Ship Bynum for Melo NOW!! Then ship Matt Barnes to Sacramento (since we are going to have too many SF's) for Jason Thompson (who is in the dog house in Sac with the arrival of Cousins) so he can be our starting center. That would give us a starting line up of :

PG: Fisher
SG: Bryant
SF: Melo
PF: Gasol
C: Thompson

and off the bench

PG: Blake
SG: Brown
SF: Artest
PF: Odom
C: Ratliff

LRob,

Guess you aren't entirely a perimeter guy, evidently you can get down in the paint and bang with the big guys. Nice to see that side of you.

Good post Edwin. Getting Carmelo as he's entering his prime would be an amazing move for the Lakers. This is our opportunity to get him.

I say F the C's. They're reaching the finish line. With Carmelo, the Lakers are just getting started.

Go Lakers!

Art,
Does this mean the PSP can sign you up on the LRob for MVB of the year bandwagon?

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect (SunBlade 6000 chassis with X6270 blades)

Unless you’ve cancelled your League Pass and signed up for the Extreme version of MVP’s practice season philosophy, you might want to watch how Pau plays this Thursday night. Believe it or not, his matchup with KG is critical. Frankly, if KG punks him again, then Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak might be concerned enough to consider trading Pau for Melo. Not saying that is what is going to happen, but the odds that the Lakers might consider a Pau for Melo trade will definitely go up if Pau gets outplayed again.

Posted by: LakerTom | February 08, 2011 at 02:03 PM
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I'm flattered. There's no Extreme version of the practice season, Tom. You either buy it or you don't. All in, as they say. I can't even lay claim to it. TrueFan1947 came up with it. You would have been best blog friends with him if you knew him. May he rest in peace.

The truth is that it's not even his philosophy. It seems to be the philosophy of almost anyone in the NBA who comes in contact with the Lakers:

“When we played them out there and beat them pretty badly, I said that there’s nothing wrong with the Lakers,” Grizzlies' head coach Lionel Hollins said. “It’s just a marathon of a season. Going to the NBA Finals three straight years, I don’t think you can expect them to come out and win 60 games and play lights out every night.”

Tom, consistent with my practice season philosophy, I simply hope that we come away from this road trip 5-2, regardless of who we beat, how we beat them, who we lose to or how we lose. That includes the meaningless practice game on Thursday night. The truth is that even the game at Staples Center didn't have a playoff feeling to it and I suspect we'll see more of the same tomorrow night. We as fans might want playoff style basketball, but the players heads aren't into it like that in February, especially championship caliber teams like the Lakers and Celtics who must adhere to a practice season philosophy to survive all the way into June.

There's 2 freakin' months until the playoffs start, for crying out loud. It can't come soon enough as far as I am concerned. That is when the Black Swan will emerge and flap his wings like he did in 2009 and 2010, and that is good enough for me. He has NOT forgotten what it takes to be a champion. Trust him.

Art,
Does this mean the PSP can sign you up on the LRob for MVB of the year bandwagon?
Posted by: Practice Season PolicePSP
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I have liked LRob's comments since he first began posting here and told him that some time ago. Since he is showing a willingness to mix it up with others I like him even more.

As for MVB, certainly he would be a top candidate, but there are others I enjoy quite a bit as well.

I'd have to see the list of candidates before I could pick, and even then choosing just one would be difficult (for me).

Look, its a Bynum Tom vs PracticeSeason888 fight! Grab your popcorn and sodas people! This one should be epic!!

Thanks
PSP Intern [ served 100 coffees today :-( ]

@Lrob...Now that ur takin ur game inside.. Don't just layup it.. Throw it down with strong... finish with authority!!

Art,

For GHF, I can't mention in the blog but u have a clue of what F means? Just kidding.

I nominate you and LRob as the MVB, (most valuable blubbermouths). haha!

@Edwin
My vote is for SpongeBynum. I wish it weren't true, but that's where I'm at. As for the Captain, I would by with that guy every single extra minute I had. My hope is that Drew gets traded, we get Melo and then D Howard in 2012. I would wish Drew all the best if he gets traded. My prediction that this Drew for Melo proposal will actually go through is around a 1% chance.

At the beginning of the season, I never thought we would be here. Whatever direction is taken before the 24th will greatly impact the story of the greatest franchise in the NBA, especially in the middle of a dynasty.

In Buss I trust, in Purp and Gold I trust so we will see.


1,2,3, RING!

LRob,

Guess you aren't entirely a perimeter guy, evidently you can get down in the paint and bang with the big guys. Nice to see that side of you.

Posted by: Art | February 08, 2011 at 04:11 PM
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Art - Thanks. I'm just trying to get Laker Tom to see how biased he's been. If it takes this type of tone to help crystallize this for him then it was worth it. If not then at least it was worth a shot.

Yellofever,

Yes!Yes!Yes! You just won yourself a pair of front row seats to the epic battle about to commence; the PSP think you should take one of the lakerblog ladies!

Edwin,

The PSP is writing you a citation for deliberately altering the meaning of MVB!

And Art, you are a great blogger too; just like LRob you present mostly unbiased opinions on what you think about different situations. The PSP salute you.

THOSE THAT FAIL TO LEARN FROM HISTORY, ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.


Bynum will get hurt again, its in his genes and knees.

YOU CAN'T DOUBLE TEAM KOBE, MELO, AND GASOL, AT THE SAME TIME.

PICK YOUR POISON TONIGHT OPPOSITON

Melo gives you an automatic 20 points a game.


Melo will prolong Kobe's career.

A combo Kobe, Melo, Paulo, is better than Lebron, Wade, Bosh.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

Melo minus Bynum will open up the Laker offense instead of clogging it.

Jerry West was right about the negatives of playing both Gasol and Bynum

@Mitch, Buss, and Kobe, (the real power broker)

Do everything in your power to get Melo-Man!

Trade everyone not named Kobe, Pauli, or Lamar.

We will play four against five if we Must!

@Mitch, Buss, and Kobe, (the real power broker)

Do everything in your power to get Melo-Man!

Trade everyone not named Kobe, Pauli, or Lamar.

We will play four against five if we Must!

@Laker Blog,

So sorry about the multiple Posts!


@LROB... Criticism acknowledged and accepted. I have never claimed to be an unbiased fan but I also believe that I generally have very valid reasons why I support and favor certain players more than others. You can dismiss it by trivializing it as my bias. I happen to consider it be my informed opinion. Here are a couple of questions your honest answers to which I would be interested to know:
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Question: Which players’ subpar performances do you think caused Mitch Kupchak to announce that he was not happy with the team’s play and was considering making a trade?
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Answer: I contend that the three players who instigated the dissatisfaction that led to Mitch’s comments regarding a trade were Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, and Derek Fisher – not Andrew Bynum.
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Question: Which trade do you think would give the Lakers a better team and better opportunity to three-peat? Kobe, Fish, Melo, Odom, and BYNUM or Kobe, Fish, Memo, Odom, and GASOL?”
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Answer: I contend trading Pau rather than Drew would make the Lakers a younger, tougher, less expensive, and more physical team that plays better defense and matches up better with Boston.
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Bottom line, putting all your money on Pau Gasol to be your starting center would be a bigger risk that betting on Andrew Bynum’s health. Do the Gasol as starting center supporters really remember what happened and how we played defense with Pau as center before Drew returned? Three good games as a power forward against favorable matchups seems to have made Pau’s ardent fans forget how he struggled and played poorly when having to match up against bigger, more physical centers. Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. Let’s just agree to disagree and see what happens.
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TOM

Edwin,

Most valuable blubbermouth????
That made me laugh out loud!
Thanks a lot man!

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PSP,

Thanks for the kudo's, you've posted some good stuff yourself.

Soft Pauli has been an All-World Performer,

While Bumyn--

Can't get out of the way of his own knees!!!!!!!!

@ LROB
I am loving your discussion with Laker Tom (who in my opinion is a great guy and great blogger). I have a high level of respect for you as you show great patience/tolerance combined with knowledge of the game.

I bring this up because I mentioned Hobbitmage a few days ago and why it is I appreciate him so much. In my opinion, he simply confronts what appears to be inflated views of Bynum. While I consider Bynum a high caliber piece of our championship puzzle, I also have a disdain for his instability and charcter.

The discussion you appear to be having with Laker Tom gives me the sense that Hobbit can at some point go back to enjoying the team and making peace here in the blog. If what I think is happening between you and LT is in fact happening, then I can't tell you how grateful I am for another blogger that helps keep things grounded and respectful.

Do the Gasol as starting center supporters really remember what happened and how we played defense with Pau as center before Drew returned?
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom
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I would be a Pau as center supporter if it meant getting Melo.

Lakers' record of 18-7 without Bynum this season is better than their record with him (18-9).

If the Lakers had Melo while Bynum sat injured on the bench those first 25 games, I wonder what their record would have been.

Bynumfan, I have crossed that bridge before, it now part of the water current. No need to refresh but just move forward. The issue on hand is Melo or Bynum.

Trollman, I think you are absolutely correct with your observation on match-up nightmare if Melo is with the Lakers. The final quarter punch will be:

1 Blake
2 Kobe
3 Melo
4 Lo
5 Gasol

This will give Steve Blake an open lane or open looks at all times, he's the least player that u don't mind to guard but the most dangerous player in the perimeter. Kobe and Melo can complement each other because they have played in the Olympics and know each other move.

Of course, we all know that our analysis is just exercise in futility because we are not the decision-makers. We can be participants if we move en masse with the Laker nation by petitioning, faxing, emailing the F/O and Jerry Buss:

Address: Los Angeles Lakers
555 N. Nash Street
El Segundo, CA 90245
Phone: (310) 426-6000
Email: [email protected]

A thousand emails, a thousand faxes are no longer just a voice in the wilderness but the howling voice of "vox populi" setting to be free urging the owners the prescription for three-peat.

The Lakers being used to help the Nuggets get something of value for Melo and the blog goes nuts?

If it goes down, then it's a good deal. Franchise player for probably not a franchise player.

The thing is, the trade value here for Denver is massively low, and I wouldn't be surprised if the "talks" involved fixing some of the other problems the Lakers have (cough.. PG... cough).
Still, it was obviously JUST talk.
Every Laker trade rumor has failed to pan out, and trades we never thought of are the ones that have gone down.

So... my thinking is that Andrew is in for Los Angeles for quite some time.

Stay with me on this one:

Lakers get:
Arron Afflalo
Carmelo Anthony
Marc Gasol
Chauncey Billups
Kwame Brown

Charlotte gets:
Shannon Brown
Ron Artest
Nene Hilario
Tony Allen

Denver Gets:
Stephen Jackson
Andrew Bynum
Gerald Wallace
Steve Blake
Mike Conley

Memphis Gets:
Luke Walton
Derek Caracter
Nazi Mohammed
Ty Lawson

This trade works on ESPN Trade machine.

Our Lineup:

Billups/Fisher
Bryant/Afflalo
Anthony/Barnes
P. Gasol/Odom
M. Gasol/K. Brown/Ratliff

Solves our problems. Get rid of the Mercurial Artest for an all star. Decent 7 footers at Center. Kwame at least knows the system and can plug up the middle. Great defensive shooting guard in Afflalo who is in the final year of his contract. Most important, a freaking point guard who can defend and knock down the 3 regularly.

One can dream, right?

There will be no trade.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K, why is there no trade? Do we have a holiday?

@tim-4-show,


Still, it was obviously JUST talk.
Every Laker trade rumor has failed to pan out, and trades we never thought of are the ones that have gone down.

So... my thinking is that Andrew is in for Los Angeles for quite some time.


Man/that blows!
I think we need a trade just so we can go NUTS on this Blog again,

Lets trade Joe Smith for Joey Dorsy of the Raptors, both power forwards and
their Salaries are identical!
This will really shake up the Blog and give us something to quibble about,


BandWagon!!!

This team can pull off a threepeat. No trade needed. You don't believe it, you're no Laker fan.

Let's move on.

@jq,

All of us who want trades are real fans,

We want the best for the organization.

This team thrives under pressure and adversity-that's why we need a trade

or at least trade talks!

I think we need a trade just so we can go NUTS on this Blog again - Mr Laker

If this does not go through, just trade Luke Walton for a hundred thousand cracker jacks, everyone will be happy.

@Wishful thinking
Did you not see Kwame's performances in a Laker uni?
He gets my vote as one of the top five WORST big men of all time.
Just watch some video on youtube.

One can dream, right?

Posted by: Wishful thinking | February 08, 2011 at 05:20 PM

Dude....That's no dream, You're on CRACK.

Yo Mark Medina, you forgot to mention that 'source' Bucher used, another 'source' rebuked his rumor.

For a guy who went to Dartmouth, Bucher doesn't have much ambition or smarts working for ESPN.

If a rumor about the Lakers gets out, that's it, it's just a rumor. No validity.

Bucher, the same guy, who basically said Dwayne Wade was a scrub?
Bucher, the same guy, who made incendiary remarks about Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints?

Stein makes up a rumor about Artest, wanting to be traded, and than tries to save his ass by claiming Artest will deny it publicly.

Bucher makes up a rumor only to say it's dead in the same breath.

The following is from cbssports.com:

In addition, a league source told CBSSports.com Tuesday that he put little credence in reports that Artest could be headed to the Bobcats for either Gerald Wallace or Stephen Jackson. When Artest signed with the Lakers two summers ago, the notion of him going to Charlotte was posed to part-owner Michael Jordan and GM Rod Higgins, who indicated he wasn't the right "fit" for the organization. Also, sources say Artest has been advised of no serious talks that would lead to him being traded -- something the Lakers, who are aware of how Artest's play could be affected by trade rumors, would be sure to do if they were close to trading him.

Look, its a Bynum Tom vs PracticeSeason888 fight! Grab your popcorn and sodas people! This one should be epic!!

Thanks
PSP Intern [ served 100 coffees today :-( ]

Posted by: Practice Season Police | February 08, 2011 at 04:23 PM

Dude...No contest, my money is on the SPIN MASTER.

We will play four against five if we Must!

Posted by: Mr. Laker | February 08, 2011 at 04:48 PM

Dude...You do that NOW.

One can dream, right?

Posted by: Wishful thinking | February 08, 2011 at 05:22 PM

Dude...And as I said before, put down your CRACK PIPE.

Melo is the key to our 3peat

We will play four against five if we Must!

Posted by: Mr. Laker | February 08, 2011 at 04:48 PM

Dude...You do that NOW.

Posted by: G.Money | February 08, 2011 at 05:52 PM


True, but Fish is just coasting trying to keep his consecutive game streak alive,
He doesn't care about the Regular Season Laker Team!

The best thing for the team would be to stop his streak and go on Injured Old Man Reserve
and wait for the 'Real Season' to begin!!!!

Melo is the key to our 3peat

Posted by: chuahugo | February 08, 2011 at 06:08 PM

Well said, with him we don't, without him we have as good a shot as anybody else.

"Ron knows how to remove himself from situations like that," Coach Phil Jackson told reporters, including The Times' Mike Bresnahan. "He got out of there instead of standing in and getting in a confrontation … that could contain any problems."

That hasn't ever been a problem for Ron, back in Detroit he walked away from Ben Wallace and laid on the scorekeeper's table; I don't recall what happened after that.

Anyway, more to the point I wanted to make, The 6 Lakers in the first list below are enough to do very well in the league but to win the championship, I feel, they need another piece or two.

Bynum
Gasol
Artest
Bryant
Odom
Barnes

-------------------If only we could use some of the names below...--------------------

Character
Ebanks
Brown
Blake
Walton
Ratliff
Smith
Fisher (Sorry Derek, I didn't want to do this over the internet but, well you see, I will always 'love' you, it's just that I am no longer 'in love' with you)

--...to get Prince, Hamilton, McGrady, Hinrich, Wallace, or Jackson?------------

In Mitch I trust.

Kobe - Melo who do you doubleteam

Look, its a Bynum Tom vs PracticeSeason888 fight! Grab your popcorn and sodas people! This one should be epic!!

Posted by: Practice Season Police | February 08, 2011 at 04:23 PM
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funny stuff PSP.

I accept Bynum for " the important role player he is" and appreciate him for that.

I wonder how many shots from Melo Bynum will alter, being the altered shots king that he is.

Look at this way, would you trade Bynum for a 26 yr old Wade, Labron or Kobe?

Yes, I know the common wisdom is you don't trade big for smaller, something dumb like trading a Divac for an unproven Kobe or passing on Michael Jordan to draft, uh, what was his name, Sam Bowie?

Anyway, the Heat and Celtics didn't have much trouble with the Lakers with Bynum playing. Guess he didn't alter enough shots.

And then there's this:
The Lakers are 18-9 in games with Bynum, and 18-7 in games without him.

Shucks, another one of those darn statistics getting in the way.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding, or the playoffs. We shall see.
I hope Bynum is healthy when that time comes.

Posted by: Art | February 09, 2011 at 08:26 AM
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Interesting post. The problem is that the way I read it, you DON'T appreciate Bynum for the important role he plays on this team because everything after the first sentence dismisses it. If you truly appreciated it, then you would agree that we have a MUCH better chance to three-peat with Bynum and not Carmelo.

Vlade was traded to accomplish 2 things: 1) Sign Shaq and 2) draft Kobe. Yes, it was the most stressful time in Jerry West's GM career because Shaq wasn't a given, but that was the plan. When you talk about Sam Bowie/Michael Jordan or even Greg Oden/Kevin Durant, you are talking about very rare occasions. By the way, Carmelo Anthony is no Michael Jordan. Not even close.

Art

By the way, I don't have time to figure out what their record is with Bynum as a starter, but that's more important, albeit meaningless. The only record that matters is 2-0. That's Bynum's record as the starting center for the 2 NBA Finals he has participated in. If you didn't notice, we played some pretty good defense with him as part of our 48 mpg 4-5 rotation. How would Carmelo Anthony improve on that? If you want to consider him a non-factor, that's your choice. I think every NBA professional, including Doc Rivers and his team, and even someone like Dwight Howard, would disagree with you.


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