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MTV's "When I Was 17" series details Kobe Bryant skipping class as a high school senior (Video)

Time efficiency serves as one of many facets to Kobe Bryant's approach to basketball.

He minimizes wasted time by taking a helicopter from his Newport Beach residence to the Lakers' facility in El Segundo for practice and to Staples Center for games. He maintains a strictly uninterrupted pregame routine consisting of treatment, practice shots and mental preparation. And lately, he's streamlined interviews in the locker room immediately after the game, keeping his legs in a cooler of ice, wearing a robe and cutting out wasted time by combining his cool-off period with his media responsibilities.

That's why it shouldn't be surprising that MTV's "When I Was 17" series revealed in an episode scheduled to air Saturday at 11 a.m. that Kobe Bryant often skipped class during his senior year of high school at Lower Merion High School in Ardmore, Penn. Sure, chalk this up as an example of mixed priorities between education and athletics. But you can also chalk it up to prioritizing his time. Instead of wasting time at the school cafeteria, he went to better and just as unhealthy joints, such as McDonald's and Taco Bell. Instead of worrying about class, he was putting in the preparation for what amounted to a state championship.

-- Mark Medina

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MM,

The PSP wondered; for a moment the PSP thought you were slacking on your '1000 threads a day' goal. Good to see you're still on it!

Thanks
PSP Officer

Preach PSP, Preach!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PSP is doing some serious patrolling today and also being seriously funny.
Is the PSP on speed?

Laker Truth - You're better than that. I made it abundantly clear in the Boston game that Bryant's high volume of shots was warranted. It all depends game to game whether it's good or not

LAKER TRUTH,

Yep, same one, just discarded the baggage of the rest of it.

I think they're the same, the latter Art is now lazier to include his state of residence.

PSP is finally became the blog police for MM threads. Why not concentrate on breaking news and/or entertain combining threads? Too many threads will lead too many reposts, thereby more ticks. I told u he's becoming a clone of BSPN lol! PSP, put him in jail.

What a day, a new life in Egypt, a revenge of the Lakers, I can sleep well tonight. I don't care how Lakers will do it but just W or else just walk home from Boston to LA.

What a day, a new life in Egypt, a revenge of the Lakers, I can sleep well tonight. I don't care how Lakers will do it but just W or else just walk home from Boston to LA. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | February 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM
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SIMPLY MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!! KUDOS SIR!!!!!!!!!

That's right IheartKB24 you tell Justa!!! And while you are at it, Justa tell her to pass that Vodka right on over here to mamba24. LMAO!!!!!!! Oh, thanks for the thanks! Carry On!

Posted by: mamba24 | February 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM

@mamba - sorry took me a while to get the vodka away from Justa...I had to make sure she's fast asleep...lol…the vodka is on its way to you…please drink moderately - I don’t want you to pass out tonight…we have a big game coming up!!!

WOOHOO!!! LET’S GO LAKERS!!!

@Manong Edwin - I totally agree with you - PSP should put MM in Jail...hahaha...sorry phred =)

@PSP - please make it happen...

Art,

The PSP do not do drugs, the PSP is always on a natural high ahem ahem. Btw the PSP just found out few days ago what mollies are when some young 18yr old offered them to the PSP. Oy vey

LAKERTRUTH,

That one will come sometime tonight or early tomorrow latest, after the Boston game.

PracticeSeason888,

The PSP Solutions Architect will be responding to you in a bit, he has been wanting to interact with you.

Thanks
PSP Officer

Edwin,

Lazy? Ok.
W or walk home from Boston to LA?
Funny, but they better walk to NY first or they will have to forfeit that game.
But then, since they are meaningless games anyway I guess it wouldn't matter.

LTLF

How goes it? U said "I hope jim buss is right. I would gladly admit how wrong I am and what a jackass I was for even suggesting trading Bynum for Carmelo ever plays up to the level..."

Don't be so hard on yourself old friend... To trade or not to trade bynum that is the question? IMO this is a very interesting risk/ reward proposition and there's not necessarily a right or wrong... You are either a HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD investor or not here... Buss realizes there is a HIGH INJURY chance of risk and HIGH RETURN opportunity of potential and is willing to let it ride... Personally I'm a RISK AVERSE kind of guy and would rather cash in my chips while that window of opportunity is still open and his trading value is high... Just don't think melo is the best fit... But even in 3-4 years when we look back should young andrew stay injury free and fullfill his expectations it would still have been a very HIGH RISK VENTURE considering his long history of injuries.

PracticeSeason888

The PSP think you are not being fair to either Karl Malone or Jerry Sloan. Karl Malone did very well in the 97 finals. The bulls were not necessarily a better team overall that year, but had the iron will of Mike (not Tyson) on their side.

Posted by: Practice Season Police | February 10, 2011 at 11:51 AM
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Although I find your mission on this blog of mocking me to be extremely childish and self-loathing, I will respond to this post.

Yes, I'm rough on Jerry Sloan because it was Dennis Rodman who was the main reason the Bulls won those series by embarrassing Karl Malone and Sloan couldn't figure out what to do with it. The buck stopped with Sloan, not the Mailman! They had HCA and blew it twice. Jerry Sloan never learned how to teach championship caliber defense. It took Derek Fisher's wisdom to get them to the WCF in 2007. Without Fish's championship knowledge, forget it.

I put Sloan with Wilkens, Nellie and George Karl, but below Larry Brown. I have great respect for him, but not the same as I have for PJ, Pop, Riles or even Doc.

Pardon me for having such arrogant opinions, PSP. But that's me and I stand by them.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 10, 2011 at 12:07 PM

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PracticeSeason888,

First of all the PSP is glad that you have admitted that you have arrogant opinions. Second, the PSP mission on this blog is not to mock you, so sit yo 5 dollar a$$ down before i make change (sorry, had to add that!); sorry to burst your arrogant bubble.

Now, on to the more pertinent issue about the mailman, sloan et. al. The PSP can't dance as well as hobbit,blitz,bynumtom, and you but I'll try.

First, Rodman was NOT the main reason they won the series; if he was, the PSP is pretty sure he would have been named Finals MVP. Last the PSP checked it was some Mike (not Tyson) dude that was MVP.

Second, the PSP don't think Fish's wisdom was what it took to get them to WCF in 2007; sure it helped, but if the PSP recall correctly, Derek's wisdom did not take the Golden State Warrior's to the WCF.

If that is where you rank Sloan then fine, that is a subjective opinion anyway so we can leave that as it is.

You are pardoned son, for it is not of your doing!

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

Where Art Imitates Life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qjCKR3elUg

The team has the personel. They just need to subscribe and adopt the will and desire to win "by any means necessary!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4DlfEQ7cyk

So come on L.A. Do what you do best and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_q0EqWBErk

On this road trio, demonstrate and prove to the FO that this is the team that will secure #17 while sending PJ back to the mountains with supreme satisfaction of having secured his 4th 3-Peat.

"Even when we didn't make the playoffs, I thought we'd win the championship." Dr. Buss

GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!!


PSP

This blog is a much safer place with u around already! But still waiting for my 2 front row tickets to Lakertoms much anticipated grudge match. Pls advise status!

@frmkt, I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!
Yes we will beat Boston...By Any Means Necessary!!!!!!!!

yello,

BynumTom pulled a Mayweather and backed out!!

Thanks
PSP Officer

I just had no idea Kobe rode a helicopter to work.

Hobbitmage,

You wrote:
"Reading Jim Buss' comments just let me know that the Lakers are in deep
trouble when Dr. Buss moves out."


You are wrong! Anytime you drafted a BYNUM who other teams would trade for BOSH and now MELO, both all-STARS and top SIX players of today, you have done very well for drafting an unkown 17 yr old CENTER at NO.10 in the draft.


Wether Lakers keep Bynum or not is not the issue with you and JIM BUSS, THE VALUE OF BYNUM IS VERY HIGH... and thanks to JIM BUSS!


To put it very blunt to you, EVERY NBA TEAM WANTS BYNUM except you, EVERY GM dreams of having BYNUM. I'm just glad you are not the son of JERRY BUSS, then Lakers would really be in trouble.

PSP

I'm glad to see that you have real basketball opinions. We simply disagree on Jerry Sloan, but his career unfortunately must be measured by his regular season successes which by definition means he falls short of greatness. He's Marty Schottenheimer.

As for my "arrogance," I'm glad it brings out the best in you and others who clearly despise me and my style. I harbor strong opinions which sometimes go against the grain of the complaining Lakers Nation. You know, such unpopular beliefs that Phil Jackson is brilliant and does make a difference and that Derek Fisher plays an important role on this team from a leadership perspective and on defense. I also believe that the regular season is a "process" (quoting Kobe from yesterday) and that the Lakers will be ready to defend their back-to-back titles in mid-April regardless of whether they win "big games" during the practice season. As a believer of this concept which you so naively mock, I am prepared to say I was wrong this season if the Lakers lose. The fact is that this season isn't a whole lot different than last season in terms of the way the team is playing. In fact, there have been stretches this season when the Lakers have played better than at any point last season. But because we only remember the bling, it's easy to forget that, isn't it?

Steve G,

I didn't know kobe rode to work on a chopper either until I read this article.. Oldie but goodie

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201003/kobe-bryant

And here's another one...

to remind us why we love kobe the hardest working man in the league... When asked how many jumpers he shoots a day he replied 700-1000 MAKES a day not shots a day!!!

http://www.mensfitness.com/exclusives/206

PracticeSeason888,

Son, the PSP can't speak for the 'others' but the PSP does NOT despise anybody. The PSP is here to regulate and enforce law and order only. You sound like the protagonist from Despicable Me.

Son, the PSP agree that the regular season is a 'process' just like most structured things in life. What the PSP has been against is you calling the regular season 'meaningless'. This is NOT what Kobe is saying; young man, you are going into a spin cycle again. Meanwhile the 'naive' PSP is yet to hear from you on your 'Rodman is the reason the Bulls won the 97 championship'. Son, read that statement and tell the PSP if you even believe some of the things you write. Oy :-(

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

Staples 24,

I agree with Hobbitmage, if Jim Buss is in control of player personnel decisions, and not Jeanie or someone with knowledge and experience, when Jerry Buss truly decides to retire the Lakers are in trouble. Buss took Bynum not because he was the best player but because he was tall. Bynum was not and is not a natural basketball talent but the invention of years of tutoring from Kareem. Bynum basically was brought in as a 7'0 foot teenager with little or no basketball playing experience. That's why his actions and reactions aren't natural and fluid but instead are rehearsed. That's why Cousins was able to punk him because Cousins has natural basketball talent. Bynum is 7'1 but playing ball is not instinctive to him. If you've ever played ball you should be able to see the difference between him and other centers past and present.

There is no other center past or current that needed or had the 1-on-1 tutoring over a number of years that Bynum received from an all time great center. Imagine Cousins or Dwight Howard having the opportunity to work 1-on-1 with a great center like Kareem for a period of 3 years, they'd blow Andrew out of the water. In fact they already do.

So Jim Buss didn't do anything great by drafting Bynum, he simply drafted someone tall and had a great center teach him how to play basketball.

He's young and smart so maybe he'll be a great center in the future but we did not draft a great talent, we drafted tall.

Just thinking our next three games will be critical in terms of any trade. Makes these games pretty extra interesting.

Staples24,

when did u contact all team gm's and
ask about bynum?

Staples24, when did u contact all team gm's and ask about bynum?
Posted by: Hobbitmage | February 10, 2011 at 01:32 PM
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Stop that! LMAO!!!!!!!

haha... had just a minute but was doing some catchup on the blog. This one had me cracking up though.

Fan of the Mamba: "So Jim Buss didn't do anything great by drafting Bynum, he simply drafted someone tall and had a great center teach him how to play basketball.
He's young and smart so maybe he'll be a great center in the future but we did not draft a great talent, we drafted tall."

No offense, but if that were the case then we'd have 100's of great centers around the league! ROFL...


Anywho's, I'm starting to get psyched for tonights game. Thoughts and visions of those great '80s go Lakers/Celtics games go through my mind whenever the Lakers visit that rat-infested garbage pit the septics play at (ok, it's not the original condemned Boston Garden, but they exported the same rats, trash and loons to the new place. Boston 'Garden'? Isn't a garden a nice place with growing plants and stuff? The only thing growing in that place was the mold! But I digress...)

As usual, 888 shares a great point in that the Chowds are more worried about the Lakers not making a trade, than landing 'Melo. Boston fans might be ugly lookin', but they are also pretty sophisticated in their collective hoop knowledge.

What I can't wait for is watching the septics creep off the court tonight with their heads hanging low after THE LAKERS BLOW THEM OUT!!!!!!!

OK, back to sorting tax papers for me!


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

BTW, is it just me, or has the PSP thing already gotten old, and only after a couple days of existence?

"Rumors, whether true or fals, are often revealing." - Col. Hans Landa


I feel bad for Jerry Sloan. He's 68 and this generation of players will not play for this the kind of Basketball they need to in order to flourish in the Flex system. They'll never understand his point of view.

Deron Williams clashing with Coach Sloan? True or not, this is quite revealing to the character of Deron Williams, isn't it? I mean I could somewhat understand if he was a prodigy or had accelerated skill/intuition. That isn't the case. The kid had to work hard to get to where he is now. He's a hell of a player, with talent. I just don't understand this type of mentality, that because you feel entitled, somehow you can become insubordinate with a stone cold man like Jerry Sloan? That's the ultimate form of disrespect from a player to a coach.

I applaud Jerry, he decided to tell them to screw off, the man has respect for himself.

GOB BLESS JERRY! Hope Retirement treats you with joy.

@justa
this one's for you, "Just Feel Better:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icD8mBBeIwU

I'm still conflicted about all of this trade talk. I think a big game from Drew will cure it.

Ray-Ray can get the three point record for all I care- we'll take the win and the RINGS this year!

...and this one is for our team, and tonight's game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsOmvSlPuys

Looks like Jerry Sloan is going to be available next year to 4peat with this laker squad.

PSP

Papa, your interpretation of "meaningless" is misplaced. The "meaningless" connotation refers to nothing more than whether the Lakers win or lose certain games. All that matters is that they improve and that they are HEALTHY and ready to compete come playoff time. The Orlando Magic beat the Lakers both times in 2009, two "meaningless" practice losses in the scheme of things, but the games were "meaningful" in the sense that it helped Phil tweak, refine and otherwise prepare the Lakers for the Magic in the Finals.

Daddy, I stress out just as much as a good fan like yourself on every Lakers possession during the practice season. I scream at the players and the refs like you do and I'm miserable and angry when the Lakers lose. Tonight will be no different should we lose, but then I must set aside my emotions and take a rational look at things. Rationally, the Lakers need to be playing their best basketball at the right time and that is more than 2 months away, when they start 0-0 in Round One like the rest of the playoff teams. Unlike some fans who think that you can only judge the team by how it is playing now, I have a deeper belief in this two time defending champ with its 11 ring, 3 three-peat head coach, that it will respond just fine come playoff time because it has the advantage of experience and know how that other teams can't match. Plus we have two 7 footers and Lamar Odom at the 4-5 to wear teams down in a 7 game series, not to mention the reigning 2 time NBA Finals MVP.

Father, the way I am looking at this road trip is for it to be successful, the Lakers must continue to play good defense, strive to execute better on offense and hopefully come away with at least a 5-2 record regardless of who they beat or who they lose to. Therefore, the "meaningful" experience tonight is what Phil Jackson and his players learn from the game, win or lose. It's the win or lose part that is "meaningless" in my opinion.

Old man, how this extremely elementary concept has you so outraged is beyond my comprehension. Clearly it is embraced by everyone from Dr. Buss down to Gary Vitti, but for some reason the Practice Season Police is sensitive to it because to the Practice Season Police, every Lakers possession, every win and every loss apparently carries extreme meaningful implications that will translate into success or failure at the end of the day. That and because you take every game to damn seriously.

So dear old Dad, please don't get upset if I tell you that I'm ashamed to be your son. I thought my father was much wiser than that.

PSP

'Rodman is the reason the Bulls won the 97 championship'

His defense on Karl Malone both in 1997 and 1998 keyed the Bulls defense which keyed their championships. Yes, I know that Michael Jordan was the MVP both times, but if that is your logic to shooting down my argument, so be it. You take Jerry Sloan's teams out of their screen-roll schemes and the whole thing falls apart as it did because of Rodman. Sloan was incapable of making adjustments, which amounted to failures for a head coach at that level, especially with HCA. He was outsmarted by Phil Jackson both times as he always is. And don't play "Box Score hobbit" with me. It won't work and you won't win.

@Cyber

You can put me on that list of those who feel that the PSP are not as entertaining or witty as they think they are.

@cyber, mclyne- ditto

I'm not criticizing you, I just think it's disrespectful to say Sloan needed Derek Fisher's experience to reach the WCF. Sloan's teams had reached the WCF several times before that. It's not as if Jerry Sloan is always coaching the best team and then falls flat in the playoffs.

I don't think it's really fair to knock him for losing to the Bulls. The Bulls were a dynasty, they had the mettle and the championship experience you often talk about. What was said about the Jazz defense when they swept the Lakers in the WCF to make it to the finals? Or when they beat them to reach the WCF the year before? I have always hated Jerry's teams, but maybe it is just respect of how good they were.

I see Sloan as a guy that always gets a lot out of his players. Even the last few years, the Jazz played the Lakers tough despite being easily overmatched. Where he ranks against other coaches is hard to say but I definitely don't think Derek Fisher was his key to success. Personally, I wasn't that high on that 2007 team and thought they only made it to the WCF because Golden State was nice enough to knock Dallas out for them. The Jazz were able to play an 8 seed instead of a 1 seed.

Posted by: Bay to LA | February 10, 2011 at 01:02 PM
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Fair enough, but I admitted that I'm a bit rough on Jerry Sloan and I stand by my opinions. They are not disrespectful opinions just because I threw Fish a bone he deserved; they were appropriately respectful. The fact that you wouldn't agree with Fisher's influence on that team is more puzzling to me.

Sloan's Jazz should have beaten the Bulls one of those two series with HCA. Sorry. If the Bulls were a dynasty with Phil Jackson as their coach, I would like to hope that you have the same confidence with this Lakers team. If you trust history, you should.

I do stand corrected though because the Jazz did reach the WCF in 1992 (lost 4-2 to the Blazers), 1994 (lost 4-1 to the Rockets) and 1996 (lost 4-3 to the Sonics). So Jerry Sloan did have his minor successes with his two first ballot Hall of Famers, but I still put him with the coaches I mentioned, although I need to amend that and rank him below Lenny Wilkens, who won an NBA championship with the Sonics in 1979.

@KobeMVP888- I'm not going to intercede with your debate or your opinion. Just offering this; While Sloan may not have won a Championship. He never lost the attitude, he played like a champion, I've seen actual footage of him playing, he was good and tough. He accepted nothing less than excellence. He expected nothing less than excellence.

"His defense on Karl Malone both in 1997 and 1998 keyed the Bulls defense which keyed their championships. Yes, I know that Michael Jordan was the MVP both times, but if that is your logic to shooting down my argument, so be it. You take Jerry Sloan's teams out of their screen-roll schemes and the whole thing falls apart as it did because of Rodman. Sloan was incapable of making adjustments, which amounted to failures for a head coach at that level, especially with HCA. He was outsmarted by Phil Jackson both times as he always is. And don't play "Box Score hobbit" with me. It won't work and you won't win.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 10, 2011 at 02:36 PM "
I can't help but think you're undermining a lot of your own arguments with this one. The Bulls had the championship experience and mettle on their side, and had the regular season coasting you said was typical of three peating temas, yet you're basically saying they won because of Jerry Sloan's failures and rigidity.

Sorry if I'm missing something here but it just looks like you have an opinion of Jerry Sloan and are isolating any and all evidence that backs up that claim instead of seeing the big picture.

"Fair enough, but I admitted that I'm a bit rough on Jerry Sloan and I stand by my opinions. They are not disrespectful opinions just because I threw Fish a bone he deserved; they were appropriately respectful. The fact that you wouldn't agree with Fisher's influence on that team is more puzzling to me.

Sloan's Jazz should have beaten the Bulls one of those two series with HCA. Sorry. If the Bulls were a dynasty with Phil Jackson as their coach, I would like to hope that you have the same confidence with this Lakers team. If you trust history, you should.

I do stand corrected though because the Jazz did reach the WCF in 1992 (lost 4-2 to the Blazers), 1994 (lost 4-1 to the Rockets) and 1996 (lost 4-3 to the Sonics). So Jerry Sloan did have his minor successes with his two first ballot Hall of Famers, but I still put him with the coaches I mentioned, although I need to amend that and rank him below Lenny Wilkens, who won an NBA championship with the Sonics in 1979.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 10, 2011 at 02:47 PM "

I'm not denying that Derek Fisher helped and influenced the team, everyone from the #1 guy on the team to the #12 guy to the head coach to the assistants deserves responsibility for how far the team goes, but to isolate Derek Fisher as the only reason they got as far as they did is an ENORMOUS stretch in my opinion.

@cyber, mclyne,sean

The PSP is glad to have an increasing number of card carrying members of the "the PSP are not as entertaining or witty as they think they are". Good job on the recruiting guys!

@PracticeSeason888

Son you said again, 'Rodman is the reason the Bulls won the 97 championship'. Where do the PSP start to argue/break this down? It's like the PSP saying 1+1=2 and you say no, 1+1=3. The PSP is stumped on this one. Is anyone else not seeing this statement?? let me put it in bold what practiceseason888 said:

RODMAN IS THE REASON THE BULLS WON THE 97 CHAMPIONSHIP

Ok the PSP will let the blog decide, please help! Do you or do you not agree with the above statement?

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

BaytoLA

The PSP's son likes to stretch and spin things around for fun.

Thanks
PSP Solutions Architect

I'm not denying that Derek Fisher helped and influenced the team, everyone from the #1 guy on the team to the #12 guy to the head coach to the assistants deserves responsibility for how far the team goes, but to isolate Derek Fisher as the only reason they got as far as they did is an ENORMOUS stretch in my opinion.

Posted by: Bay to LA | February 10, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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You're isolating Derek Fisher. You made the ENORMOUS stretch. I just said it took "Derek Fisher's wisdom" to get them there. I didn't say he was the "only" reason. Yeesh. He DID bring a mentality to that team that did not exist before he got there. Just ask Deron Williams about that. If you want to take my words so stinkin' literally, be my guest. Just don't misrepresent their meaning as you have a tendency to to. I said I had a "great respect" for Jerry Sloan, but you then said I was being "disrespectful."

Whatever. Let me hear you say something positive about Derek Fisher and something positive about the Lakers' chances of three-peating instead of your steadfast defense of the Bulls and Jerry Sloan's Jazz who have repeatedly fallen short of a championship his entire career as a head coach. If Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich had two first ballot Hall of Famers like Stockton and Malone to coach, you better believe they would have won at least one championship with them.

Mr. Tough Guy fell short, so while everyone is singing his praises, I'm sorry if all I can say is that he is a very good head coach along the lines of George Karl and Don Nelson. That is actually a very high compliment. In his 26 years of coaching, 22 going to the playoffs, he has not ONE championship to show for it despite having one of the great 1-2 tandems of all-time. He boasts a 2-4 record in WCFs and an 0-2 record in the NBA Finals. If Phil Jackson had won with guys like Stockton and Malone, they would have said "he won with great players." Pardon my short shrift of Jerry Sloan.

If Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich had two first ballot Hall of Famers like Stockton and Malone to coach, you better believe they would have won at least one championship with them.
Posted by: KobeMVP888
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Are you saying that you think if Pop was coaching the Jazz they would have beaten PJ's Bulls?

And are you saying that if PJ was coaching the Jazz and Sloan was coaching the Bulls that the Jazz would have beaten the Bulls?

Just looking for clarafiction.

"You're isolating Derek Fisher. You made the ENORMOUS stretch. I just said it took "Derek Fisher's wisdom" to get them there. I didn't say he was the "only" reason. Yeesh. He DID bring a mentality to that team that did not exist before he got there. Just ask Deron Williams about that. If you want to take my words so stinkin' literally, be my guest. Just don't misrepresent their meaning as you have a tendency to to. I said I had a "great respect" for Jerry Sloan, but you then said I was being "disrespectful."

Whatever. Let me hear you say something positive about Derek Fisher and something positive about the Lakers' chances of three-peating instead of your steadfast defense of the Bulls and Jerry Sloan's Jazz who have repeatedly fallen short of a championship his entire career as a head coach. If Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich had two first ballot Hall of Famers like Stockton and Malone to coach, you better believe they would have won at least one championship with them.

Mr. Tough Guy fell short, so while everyone is singing his praises, I'm sorry if all I can say is that he is a very good head coach along the lines of George Karl and Don Nelson. That is actually a very high compliment. In his 26 years of coaching, 22 going to the playoffs, he has not ONE championship to show for it despite having one of the great 1-2 tandems of all-time. He boasts a 2-4 record in WCFs and an 0-2 record in the NBA Finals. If Phil Jackson had won with guys like Stockton and Malone, they would have said "he won with great players." Pardon my short shrift of Jerry Sloan.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 10, 2011 at 03:46 PM "

I never isolated Derek Fisher. In reflecting upon Jerry Sloan's entire career, you mentioned the Jazz making the WCF in 2007 but that it took Derek Fisher to get him there. You didn't mention Deron Williams, you didn't mention Boozer, you named Fisher as the main catalyst.

Someone could also argue that the Warriors declined after signing Derek Fisher and then the year after he left, they made the playoffs for the first time in over a decade and argue that him leaving the team was the catalyst they needed to advance. While those facts as stated are true, the conclusion being made by those facts is fundamentally dishonest and it ignores the multitude of other factors that go into it.

I really haven't been as negative as you claim I have. I report flaws I see (poor rotations, lack of speed, inconsistent play against elite teams) and think they are signs of concern. You retort that those aren't bad signs because they were exhibited in some form in the past and did not stop them from winning. However, I never said the Lakers won't still win. Those issues were valid concerns in the past and they still remain now because the Lakers didn't win because of their weaknesses, they won because of their strengths. The presence of similar weaknesses does not mean they are on the same path to victory.


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