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Lakers strike down latest rumor of four-player deal involving Carmelo Anthony

Melo2_450 There’s another trade rumor involving the Lakers and the Denver Nuggets about a possible four-player deal, but a Lakers official, who declined to talk publicly, steadfastly denied it.

The scenario: the Lakers would trade center Andrew Bynum and Ron Artest for forwards Carmelo Anthony and Al Harrington. But the Lakers denied it was on the table in the first place and insisted team executive Jim Buss and General Manager Mitch Kupchak were on the same page as far as trade opportunities.

Coach Phil Jackson chuckled at the rumors in general after the Lakers practiced Wednesday in Boston. “I haven't even entertained it,” Jackson said of trading for Anthony. “My first thought is why are these [media] people interrupting my life with these kind of rumors.”

Harrington and Artest both have difficult-to-move contracts: Artest has three more years and $21.8 million while Harrington has four more years and $27.7 million.

The Nuggets are trying to get something tangible for Anthony instead of losing him at season’s end for nothing in return. Anthony, 26, has one more year on his contract at $18.5 million but can void it and become a free agent after this season. He is currently seeking a three-year extension worth $65 million that would kick in after next season.

Bynum is averaging 11.3 points and 7.4 rebounds this season and has one more guaranteed year at $14.9 million, with a team option for $16.1 million in 2012-13.

Bynum's development has been slowed because of numerous knee injuries but he is considered Buss' pet project. Buss has been tethered to Bynum since insisting the Lakers draft him out of high school in 2005, and he doesn’t want to give up on the 23-year-old.

The Lakers are also lukewarm about Anthony because of the financial ramifications. They have the league’s largest payroll ($90 million) and would be pushed significantly upward in salary and luxury taxes.

The NBA trade deadline is Feb. 24.

Bynum said Wednesday he had been through the rumor mill a few times in his career, including reported deals for Chris Bosh and Pau Gasol that turned out to be inaccurate.

“It's nothing new to me,” Bynum said. “I'm going to keep playing basketball.”

Kobe Bryant said Wednesday that Bynum was “extremely important” and that the Lakers' biggest strength was their size. Bryant also said Bynum should ignore all the media reports.

“If he can’t deal with that, forget a Game 7,” Bryant said. “I don’t need to talk to him about that. He’s a big boy. He can handle himself.”

Bryant downplayed the persistent rumors revolving around the Lakers.

“We don't really deal with the unknowns,” he said. “You might as well talk about UFOs, too.”

The Lakers play the Celtics in Boston on Thursday.

-Mike Bresnahan and Broderick Turner reporting from Boston

Photo: Carmelo Anthony. Credit: Doug Pensinger / Getty Images

 
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The dead horse just called. He was asking us to stop beating him.


DBDH!

I love the trade to go down because of this one and only reason, anything else [expletive] it!

BLACK & MELO! BLACK & MELO! BLACK & MELO!
You know what it is!! LMAO!!

Brylle

LOL.

Just as the rumor wasn't news, so is the beat down. Not news.

Anything else we already know that we ought to discuss?

will the front office change their mind if we lose at boston, ny, and orlando?

MM,

I have to give you some credit on your comments about Bynum's delayed surgery. You correctly pin-pointed fans' (my) biggest complaint of him.

I think the injury prone stuff is a bit over-stated. Use your brain fellas - a 200lb+ basketball player goes crashing sideways into your legs... what happens to you? Another guy walks under you in mid air... what happens to you? Last year was just a shoddy job by the doctors... but the off season delay, now that's ALL BYNUM, and he should be faulted for it.

All of this Carmelo trade talk doesn't make much sense...........all though it is very enticing to make a move for him. The biggest variable about Bynum is his health............to trade Bynum now wouldn't be a sound decision for THIS year but it would help in successive years. The deal that makes more sense to me is a Gasol for Carmelo trade.

If Bynum were to go we'd have nothing in the middle defensively...........If Gasol were to be traded we would have a better player offensively and both players are about the same defensively.

I wouldn't make a decison however until after this road trip and I would like to see specifically how Pau does tomorrow night against Boston.............That's the test for Gasol................All of this praise for Gasol being more aggressive means nothing..................if he folds tomorrow against Boston

@MM - Spare us! Enough already! I'd rather read another piece about complaining Lakers fans! Just do it, Mark!

@LakerTom - I just combed the archives from the other forum to try to find a little jewel from TrueFan 1947 for your entertainment. I was going to find something about his thoughts on Phil jackson, but instead I went back exaclty one year and here is an example of his impatience with Andrew Bynum. It's great stuff:

TrueFan1947 (2/9/2010 at 5:35 AM)

"Devean George and Elden Campbell are 2 players that "milked" their "potential" with the Lakers for way too many years and essentially were a huge BUST and a drain on the payroll. I'm not ready to put Andrew Bynum in that category, by ANY means! What I DO need to see from him is some VALIDATION of that MONSTER contract the team signed him to recently. This is his 5th season in the NBA. He doesn't get any more free passes. Sorry, kid. Time to man UP! The team NEEDS you to "figure out how to play defense and how to develop a symbiosis with Pau on the court". It's on YOU, it's NOT on Pau! Smarten up, check any pouting at your front door, bust your keister mentally and physically to "get it", and then start to CONTRIBUTE! Patience is a wonderful thing, but even our open-hearted Laker fan base has LIMITS on their patience, MYSELF included. We sincerely WANT you to become that great center that we feel is "germinating" inside you. Please VALIDATE us and the front office!"

He wore his passion on his sleeve.

I would actually be in favor of this trade, don't forget that Harrington can shoot the ball and play down low as well. However, most trades in the NBA that are "leaked" never happen. Its the ones like Pau to Lakers, were you just get slapped in the face and look dumbfounded that occur. That being said, we need to find a way to get Mr. Carmelo here.

can anybody really see andrew playing 82 games a season and carrying a team on his back as they make a push for the playoffs in the next few years as kobe slowly declines? With Carmelo...you have somebody who can help Kobe prolong his career and occasionally take the big shot in crunch time. And...no Pau is not that guy. Andrew better bust his butt tomorrow against Perkins and Garnett

Elden Campbell did have great potential for a long time....didnt he? Size, jumping ability, but no passion for basketball

@Tim-4-show

This same tired criticism of Bynum and his "delayed" surgery again? Once and for all: the Lakers coaching staff and management told Bynum to take a break after killing himself playing through a friggin' torn knee ligament the entire playoffs (and helping them win the title by the way!). They realized how stressful and difficult surgery and rehab once, so they wanted to give the kid a little break. For crying out loud...I dare any of you bozos to even walk around with a torn ligament and not complain (much less push and shove against 270+ lbs monsters under the basket)! Give the kid a break...he's only 23 years old. He's not injury prone, just unlucky. I'm glad the Lakers didn't make this trade. Unless you get another center in return or a young, quick PG in addition to Melo, would this trade even make sense.


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Am I the only one that doesn't believe that a Melo for Bynum deal was offered to the Lakers straight up with a dotted line at the bottom? The front office is likely going to be criticized if nothing ends up happening but I think it was always a given that there would be other players involved.

This Melo thing is getting ridiculous. It's like the LAT has to play whack a mole with anything ESPN reports...

I don't want the Lakers to make any moves. I think this team is the best option because of tremendous SIZE. No one other than Boston comes close. I just hope for Bynum's sake that he has a monster or more than good game tomorrow against Boston. That will tell us alot about what might go down before trade deadline. I look for the Lakers to come out and really win this game.

I agree100% It would be a great trade. The only problem is why would Denver give us their best player for a guy with bad knees and can't even score 20 points!


@PFUNK36... Excellent points in your post. Of course, you will now be accused of putting Pau Gasol on a 1-day contract with his future based on his play against the Celtics. JK. The reality is that the entire Lakers team needs to respond tomorrow night with a great effort against the beat up Celtics. Drew needs to dominate Perkins and put to rest all the talk about how the Celtics starting lineup has never lost. Pau needs to show that he will not be dominated by KG like he was last time. Bottom line, like Phil Jackson himself said, this trip will really determine whether the Lakers need to make a trade so let’s see who rises to the occasion and who disappears into the background. Another poor showing against the Celtics could still drive Mitch and the Busses to make a trade.
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@KOBEMVP888... Thanks for the link to TrueFan’s post. Frankly, one of the things I like about you and CCX and many other great bloggers on this site is that they DO wear their passion on their sleeves. To me, that’s what being a fan is all about. There are few things in life that I can maintain a true passion about and my love for the Lakers is one of them. If I sometimes throw out too much hyperbole, so be it. I never claimed to NOT be biased in favor of certain players. Instead, I back up why I favor and support these players with solid reasons and justifications. If we disagree, no problem. Bottom line, I don’t shy away from controversy and try my best to handle it respectfully.
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I’m not interested in joining the masses who accept mediocrity and rarely expect greatness as I prefer to think outside the box when it comes to evaluating this team and what it needs in order to remain relevant in pursuit of more championships. That is the only reason why I first initiated the subject of the Lakers making a move to land Carmelo Anthony. It had nothing to do with my support for Andrew Bynum. Basically, I had a vision that trading Pau for Melo would make the Lakers a younger, tougher, more athletic, more physical team. Trading Drew for Melo is not as appealing to me since I believe Drew is the key to that Lakers better defense.
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One of the strengths of the Laker brain trust is that they do not overreact and give up on players and make trades just to make trades. They understand how to construct a championship team. And while I am not a big proponent of breaking up teams and don’t believe that constant trades is the proper way to construct a team, there are occasions when I will espouse and support a trade. I did so on occasion with Lamar due to his inconsistency and the opportunity to get a true point guard like Daren Collison and I also did the same with respect to Pau Gasol due to his lackluster play the first half of this season and the opportunity to get Carmelo Anthony from the Nuggets.
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Good points LT.

Being damaged goods is not the same as being injury prone.

The achilles issue you mentioned was the only true "injury prone" type thing I can remember about him in recent years, and that would give me concern.

If he's truly damaged goods, then there's no better time to make a deal than like right now.

I'm proud of how far he's come as a player, but disappointed that it's not even more considering the training and coaching he's gotten. And, a big part of that is his attitude or my perceived attitude of him - he's seems fairly content, nothing at all like a Kobe mentality.

Content players are a dime a dozen.

Guys that are persistent to win/improve are the ones that almost always pay off huge. Bynum has been spoonfed his improvement, but where's the desire for more and greater other than for what's parked in his garage?

Am I the only one that doesn't believe that a Melo for Bynum deal was offered to the Lakers straight up with a dotted line at the bottom?

Posted by: Bay to LA | February 09, 2011 at 01:44 PM

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The Chris Broussard article that started all this nonsense basically said that they were in the preliminary stages of talking, whatever that means. That sounds like a whole lot of nothing to me. Do I think that Denver MIGHT consider making this kind of an offer? Unless something better comes along, I don't know why they wouldn't other than a concern that they are just making the Lakers better.

This was written:

Once and for all: the Lakers coaching staff and management told Bynum to take a break after killing himself playing through a friggin' torn knee ligament the entire playoffs (and helping them win the title by the way!). They realized how stressful and difficult surgery and rehab once, so they wanted to give the kid a little break. For crying out loud...I dare any of you bozos to even walk around with a torn ligament and not complain (much less push and shove against 270+ lbs monsters under the basket)! Give the kid a break...he's only 23 years old. He's not injury prone, just unlucky.

my response: Sadly, this is untrue. You might want to do more research.
He had torn cartilage not a ligament.

The team was unaware of how stressful/difficult the surgery would be because
Bynum had/has been using his own doctors. Bynum's doctors were unaware,
because they changed what they were doing after they went in.

I am missing two ligaments, damaged a 3rd ligament and have had cartilage
removed from my knee.

No, I don't weigh 250+ lbs. No, I don't get paid $13 million + a year to play
basketball nor do I have the $$ to pay for the best doctors in the world.

If there had been any question in anybody's mind about this surgery, do you
really think that Pau would have not worked out over the summer? That is
illogical based upon what he's done over the last 2 years.

Tell the multi-millionaire to buy a ticket for whomever needs to help him with
rehab and get the surgery *BEFORE* you go on vacation. Just think:

If Bynum had had the surgery done right after the championships, NO ONE
could have said anything negative about his character.

There's probably a lesson in there somewhere ....

btw, How come you're not talking about his trip to Italy instead of training
with Kareem? Yes, we've had the conversation before. No Kareem's illness
had nothing to do with them not training.

"The Chris Broussard article that started all this nonsense basically said that they were in the preliminary stages of talking, whatever that means. That sounds like a whole lot of nothing to me. Do I think that Denver MIGHT consider making this kind of an offer? Unless something better comes along, I don't know why they wouldn't other than a concern that they are just making the Lakers better.


Posted by: KobeMVP888 | February 09, 2011 at 02:02 PM "

That's what I'm thinking this all is as well.

But if the Lakers don't make a trade and don't win it all this year, we're going to have so many people blasting the front office for turning down a Melo for Bynum offer that probably never existed ( at least not in that exact form) in the first place.

What do yall think of bynum, walton, and blake to NO for CP3 and okefor.

LOOK I KNOW MITCH BETTER MAKE THIS HAPPEN WE NEED CARLEMO CANT YOU SEE DEREK FISHER KOBE BRYANT CARMELO AND PAU RON ARTEST MAN SUPER TEAM WHO YOU GONNA GUARD

MVP888 - I remember very well that post of TrueFan...If you remember after that post, TF and I got into it...It was a heated debate which split the Forum into 2 factions...

I was very disappointed with that post, you know his influence, and while I was trying to shore up the flood with my finger on the crack, he posted that and the confidence of the blog went down the drain with it...

But TrueFan being the professional blogger and fan that he was...retracted this post and apologized to Andrew and the blog...that would be great if you can find that post...

I miss TrueFan tremendously, and I learned a great deal about fan hood, history of the Lakers and the league and most importantly, how to cherish these moments that we were fortunate enough to experience and witness all this first hand...

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We would still have 3 bigs and one hell of a point guard to run the team when phil jackson leaves next year. and we could stop the other elite pg's.

Bay to LA that is part of sports. I am a football coach in tx and you better have thick ass skin

Trade deadline is 2/24... The FO went public with the fact that they are willing to explore and evaluate their trade options. Meanwhile, the Lakers find themselves in the midst of a road trip and during that time, they will basically be making a case to the FO to remain together for another run. If they fail the "audition," I believe the FO will make every effort to pull the trigger on a big trade.

Now all we can do is wait, see and enjoy the upcoming games against Bos, NY, Orl, Charl & Cleve . It’s a rough schedule because those 5 games will be played over the next 7 days! I think the Lakers have to sweep this schedule in order to remain together.

This is going to be a great week of Lakers basketball. Now instead of playing "boring" regular season games during this road trip, they will be playing for the privilege to win another championship together. These next 5 games are going to count BIG TIME!

I just gotta say this, starting line up: Ty Lawson, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Lamar Odom, and Pau Gasol. That's a very dangerous starting 5. Tho I would like to have Drew cuz he's gonna be a beast if he can ever stay healthy. I think he still doesn't trust his body yet, but if he could stay healthy, I'd throw Pau out and keep Bynum. But if Dwight is intent on coming to LA then we should think about letting Drew go and clear out Luke, Shannon, and Ron and just get decent role players while maintaining 5 great starters and somehow get Ariza back!

Yep, I agree that the horse is pretty dead! Anyway for the fun of it though I would only do the Bynum-for-Anthony if Nene is included. Nene is almost as big as Bynum and way more physical. He's also a lot more durable.

My wish trade is actually something more pedestrian and more practical: How about Bynum for Marc Gasol.

I know it's been mentioned here a few times as well. Makes perfect sense to me. First off I invite any Bynum supporter to make a case (with supporting data and statistics of course) why and how much Bynum is better than Marc Gasol?

In Gasol we'll get a decently physical center who can actually shoot a jumper as well as be durable and can be counted on to show up.

Even though Bynum is only 23, he's got 5 years in NBA age and if he hasn't shown any spectacular skill yet it's more likely he's another Elden Campbell (just like somebody mentioned earlier), plenty of "potentials" but never really reach any.

Oh and the excuse about Bynum being "unlucky" instead of being fragile and injury-prone? Um, the average NBA big man got banged up good EVERY NIGHT too. So is it pure co-incident that "accidents" kept finding Bynum while the other big men of the league, including his teammate Pau Gasol night after night, game after game... just took a beating and kept on ticking?

My wish list: Bynum + filler = Marc Gasol + filler + first round draft pick

Now that is my dream trade!

coop i like that idea need backup big

Agree 1000% with "pfunk36"

Trade Pau Gasol now for top trade value.

The LA crowd would love to embrace another star with a "B-list" reality TV wife AND who knows the direction of the Laker offense AFTER Phil Jackson leaves. Pau has never been truly accepted by Laker fans and he probably would mind the trade to Denver.

Better a year too early than two years too late.

Can you believe that anybody writing here takes this seriously? Carmelo Anthony and a decent backup forward for an injury-prone player and an aging Artest?

It's embarrassing that anybody would take this seriously.

How ridiculous, two titles later and not accepted by laker fans!? What a joke,get a clue eeebayou.

"Bay to LA that is part of sports. I am a football coach in tx and you better have thick ass skin

Posted by: cowboy | February 09, 2011 at 02:22 PM "

That is true but my point is not to say the front office better be tough and deal with the criticism. My point is more that the criticism itself would be unfounded. It takes the idea of hindsight bias a step further.

i got ya.

The reason defense is better is because with defense you can't miss shots. The reason offense is worse is because if you make every shot than offense is better. but because in every game NOT everybody will be 100% field goal percentage, defense will ALWAYS remain key.

With Carmelo Anthony he'll not get enough shots.
He won't play defense, and if the team's vibe is off that given night he'll be just the same because he's a guy who feeds off of energy too.

Andrew Bynum......get yo game up NOW~!!

@ Tim-4-show..lol,but you just called smith worst than feces. I wonder if those guys read the blog...

Dunno if it's true or not, but what people seem to be forgeting is that mel doesn't want to stay(btw he wants to win). It's not like it's just a trade for no reason,it's an oppurtunity denver doesn't want him to walk for free. comparing bynum to Melo is crazy,but remember after a year he could come off the books.So it would be kinda like the kwame thing...

I kinda knew this artest thing would come up,you always here players deny(at first)they want to be traded.(If his brother is talking he needs to shut his pie hole). Now his name is mentioned again For capn jack or wallace.The thing is did he really want a trade,or were the lakers looking anyhow??More so how's he gonna deal with it??We all know artest can be a unstable at times,and save for the last couple games he has been playing like what tim-4show flushes down the toilet..We should believe that his play will drastically improve come playoff time??Fisher maybe,Artest dunno,and his defense hasn't been great either.
It's really ghf vs ghe indeed, cause some don't wanna give up anything...O well the decision is you know who's......
Either way lakeshow all the way..

come june there will be a parade or a flogging............

The *only* factor that makes this story credible is Nuggets' risk of losing Melo for *nothing at all*.

Presuming the Knicks aren't giving them enough, wouldn't you take Bynum and maybe another player as an alternative to almost certain playoff defeat if Melo plays out 2011, and then watching him leave thereafter?

This trade would be a pipe dream otherwise. DEN would never do this deal if Melo weren't an FA this summer. Kupchak's comments regarding possible trades last week also take on an interesting context.

It's difficult to believe that the talks were so serious at the time the story was broken that all LA needed to do was say yes to cement the deal.

That being said, I have little doubt that this deal was explored at some level at the time the story broke. And the only sensible move for LA would have been (or will be) to pull the trigger, for reasons KobeMVP888 and I discussed yesterday.

As long as I've been here I've supported Socks. But there are times when being wedded to a player has disastrous results. Ask Cleveland how holding on to J.J. Hixson instead of giving him up to acquire Amar'e for a playoff run last year worked out.

Plaschke nailed it. There was no reason to say no, and if the deal can still be done, LA may well rue the day it didn't do the deal when it had the chance.

That day could be 3 years from now.

Or 3 months from now.

Or, considering recent history, 3 weeks from now.


Unless Orlando is going to take Joe Smith, trade exceptions, Luke, RA, some cash, and a bag of peanuts for Dwight Howard, I don't see us making any trades of significance! LOL

BTW, I like Joe Smith and still want to see him get some non-garbage time run!!!!

"Gangstaslapped"

Who would win the following "Keep them in L.A." polls?

Pau Gasol vs. Lamar Odom
Pau Gasol vs. Andrew Bynum

Based on what I've seen on the very unscientific LA Times blogs, Gasol should have his bags packed. That's what I consider not accepted and under appreciated.

Melo in Yellow....

I love LA!

Money Trumps talent in this case. The lakers have very little room to move in, it seems.

NO: do not make this trade this year, we need size to match up against the Boston thugs.
We lost to Boston in finals because we did not have Bynum in lineup, and last year we won it because PAU had Bynum helping on D....

Now if this trade was to be next year then go for it...........GO LAKERS...

can we stop all this broha-ha and focus on the celtics tomorrow, we know the celtics are laughing at us right now!

Getting Carmelo won't help the Lakers. I think that they have all that they need to defend the championship they won. However, I did not say win! It stands to reason that they will either be playing the Heat or Boston, if they are able to get past San Antonio. So, changing up what they have will not be in their best interest, in my humble opinion. I don't know much, but I do know a little bit about basketball. I've watched enough of it!

All the focus on the bigs and the problem is the bad outside shooting by Fisher, Artest, Walton and sometimes by Brown. If outside opens up then so does inside.Less playing time for Fisher and Artest and more for Brown and the two rookies. Jackson uses loyality over ability. Jackson is stuck on stubborn.

@Allen Friedman, I agree with you about the terrible outside shooting. Even if Melo is acquired,and other team's defense collapses trying to defend Kobe, Carmello, or whoever, what good would that do if there's no one who can make outside shots. Definitely worth addressing.

The dead horse just called. He was asking us to stop beating him.


DBDH!

Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | February 09, 2011 at 12:50 PM

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LOL funny and right on target.

I agree100% It would be a great trade. The only problem is why would Denver give us their best player for a guy with bad knees and can't even score 20 points!

Posted by: lakerman | February 09, 2011 at 01:52 PM

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I have to disagree with you lakerman. Drew's knees were injured by his own team mates and re-injured when returning too soon. As to scoring it is hard to score twenty points when you share the ball with Kobe, Pau and LO. He is like 3rd or 4th option and has been told to focus on defense instead of offense by PJ. I disagree with PJ on this but that is the reality of the situation. So he shares ball with those scorers you want to dump him? Flawed logic in my opinion.

To Psycorp or anyone who believes that Lakers should trade Bynum for Melo and Nene,

Look at the following numbers:

Andrew (C) is 13.8million

Carmelo makes 17m and expects 20m+ next year
Nene(C ) is 11m+

Can Buss pay the difference plus the luxury tax. Even a multi billionaire owner would not do that. As a Lakers fan I like that trade scenario too, but it would never work. Please do some research and be realistic.

I really wish u trade Carmelo for Pau so u all can see what the meaning of destroying a team is. I cant believe how Lakers fans can underrate that much Pau Gasol, an allarround player who can do 4 assists per game even when u say he plays soft and who creates a team chemistry arround him, he is the key of the past 3 finals. Go and get Carmelo, another selfish player u will see how good lakers will look.

bynum, walton, blake, and a #1 to New Orleans for CP3 and Okefor. we would still have 3 bigs, and a great point guard who is still young. He will take a load of a kobe and CP3 will be able to stop the top pg . someone tell me what you think.


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