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Lakers have recent history of making trades during extended trips

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By this point, Lakers guard Derek Fisher has grown accustomed to the routine. Any time the Lakers take an extended trip, the concerns go beyond solidifying travel arrangements and how many wins the team compiled. It has also lately involved the Lakers trading someone on their roster.

That's why when the Lakers returned in late December, Fisher focused more on the Lakers shipping off Sasha Vujacic for Joe Smith than the team's 6-1 mark during the trip. Fisher, too, noticed that this isn't anything new for the Lakers, what with the Lakers trading Vladimir Radmanovic for Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown a day before a six-day trip ended in the 2008-09 season, and the Lakers' blockbuster trade involving Pau Gasol on Feb. 1, 2008, came in the middle of a six-game trip.

Can the Lakers ever go on an extended trip without making a deal?

"I don't know," Fisher said with a laugh in late-December, though the Lakers made no moves during the Lakers' seven-game trip last season. "It seems to have been a little bit of a curse in the last couple of years. The trip we have right before All-Star break I'm sure will be a little bit nerve-racking for everyone."

It sure is. The Lakers (36-16) enter Thursday's game at Boston (38-13) with much more on their minds than just whether they've improved enough to rectify their 109-96 loss Jan. 31 to the Celtics. Although the Lakers have maintained they don't plan to trade Lakers center Andrew Bynum, he's been at the center of discussion since ESPN.com reported the Lakers and Nuggets were in preliminary talks about dealing Bynum for Carmelo Anthony. That attention has also been cast on Ron Artest, particularly with an ESPN.com report that said he hoped the Lakers traded him, an assertion both Artest and his agent, David Bauman, disputed. And Mitch Kupchak's acknowledgement that he'd be open to making a trade certainly has kept everyone awaiting their fate. But it's certainly nothing the Lakers haven't seen already.

1. The Lakers trade Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?!

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant remembered shouting "yes" to himself in excitement. Lakers Coach Phil Jackson acknowledged he'd never believe such a trade could happen. Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich argued the NBA should set up a panel to prevent such trades from happening. And ESPN NBA analyst Stephen A. Smith argued the Lakers should instantly make plans for a championship parade.

The Lakers acquired Gasol from Memphis in February 2008 for Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie, Javaris Crittenton, two first-round picks and the rights to Marc Gasol, whom the Lakers drafted with a second-round pick in 2007. Since that time, the Lakers have gone to three consecutive NBA Finals and have won back-to-back championships. Although the logic behind Memphis' trade was thoroughly questioned, through time it showed that it helped free up cap space to bring in Zach Randolph and that Marc Gasol eventually evolved into a legitimate center. Still, the Lakers are enjoying the benefits Pau Gasol has brought since his arrival.

One thing to keep in mind that this trade perfectly captures Kupchak's sentiment that they don't publicly talk about negotiations. The Times' Mike Bresnahan reported last year that because the Lakers weren't offering enough player salaries to satisfy NBA rules aimed at limiting salary dumping, Kupchak asked former Lakers guard McKie, a part-time assistant with the Philadelphia 76ers at the time, whether he'd accept $750,000 to sign him for one day and then trade him to Memphis. McKie eventually agreed, but it featured plenty of anxiety.

"There was one stumbling block -- the numbers didn't work and you had to get Aaron McKie on board," Kupchak said. "It didn't look like we were going to be able to do that. We ended up working late into the night. My feeling was if we didn't get it done that night, it would probably hit the papers because the rumors would get out. When things hit the wire and it's now a public issue, it's kind of like all bets are off. I felt like if it's not going to happen that night, then it's going to fall apart."

Fortunately for the Lakers, the stars aligned. The Lakers received more size. Bryant appeared happier. And the Lakers began collecting championships.

2. The Lakers get rid of a space cadet and bring in a dunker

The Lakers traded Radmanovic to Charlotte for Morrison and Shannon Brown, a move that was at first strictly financial. Radmanovic made about $6 million, was going to make $6.5 million the following season and had a player option for the 2010-11 season worth nearly $7 million. Meanwhile, Brown had an expiring contract worth just under $800,000, and Morrison made $4.15 million and $5.25 the next season.

The move also revealed Radmanovic's wrongful contention that role players can't flourish under Jackson. It really just depends how players adapt. The Lakers let Morrison go after last season because lacking athleticism, proving unreliable on defense and becoming a streaky shooter can only take you so far in the NBA. Meanwhile, Brown has become a staple off the Lakers' bench because of his amazing athleticism, thunderous dunks and unyielding want to become more of a complete player.

3. Lakers trade in an old machine

The questions initially caught Vujacic off guard. He had just exited the locker room at the Wizards' Verizon Center where the Lakers just completed a mid-December road game, and for the first time, he found out it was possible he might get traded to the New Jersey Nets. A day later, the Lakers finalized a trade that sent Vujacic to New Jersey in exchange for Joe Smith, while the Nets sent Terrence Williams to Houston. The Lakers' main motivation in acquiring Smith again involved team finances.

Vujacic is making $5.5 million in the last season of a three-year, $15-million contract he signed in 2008 with the Lakers, while Smith's salary is $1.4 million this season. But there's no doubt both players are happy the trade happened. After receiving little playing time, Vujacic said he "could finally breathe again" with an increased role at New Jersey. Though this meant traveling to his 12th team, Smith remained giddy over the chance at winning an NBA championship. His playing time has remained limited, but his enthusiasm still remains infectious. He greets the starters once they enter the game as they check in before sitting back down on the bench to cheer on the defending champs.

--Mark Medina

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The Big Wheelchair and the Big Shamrock are already hiding out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqvBFMJor5tEwqUq0Mr2Ci28vLYF?slug=ap-celtics-injuries

DBDH!

Cook & Evans for Ariza: brilliant. I was so happy that day.
Brown, Gasol, & Critter for Gasol: also brilliant. Kobe did the airplane that night.

Machine for worn out parts: what I flush in the toilet is worth more than this

let's hope Mitch finds his way back to brilliance.

I am still not joining in on any of these trade rumors - no matter how many stories or blog posts are written.

When do we get to start talking about the greenies??? Come on - we are now a day away from a greenie game and we aren't yet talking about our biggest rival for the past 3 seasons???

Where are the trolls?

Cheers - PLG

The Big Wheelchair and the Big Shamrock are already hiding out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqvBFMJor5tEwqUq0Mr2Ci28vLYF?slug=ap-celtics-injuries

DBDH!

Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | February 09, 2011 at 02:01 PM
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One of the poster came up with that:
"the celtics is the ugliest player per team in nba, kendrick, pearce, rondo, garnett, robinson...all ugly."

Very funny....and very true.

Hey there's lots to talk about so we're going to have a chat up from 3:30 - 4:30 today

When was the last time the Lakers made a trade after February 1st? Answer: March 10, 1999: Glen Rice, BJ Armstrong and JR Reid for Eddie Jones and Elden Campbell.

Too little too late for that strike shortened season (Rice played 27 games) as the Asterisk Spurs grabbed their first NBA title, but Mr. Rice blended in quite nicely as the much needed "third option" for the beginning of the Shaq-Kobe Dynasty the following season.

Dude...Than can you just make a trade of Ron Ron for Captain Jack? TOUGHNESS, DEFENSE, WILL NOT BACK DOWN, SCORES, WTH your waiting for? make the deal.

Repost:

Trade deadline is 2/24... The FO went public with the fact that they are willing to explore and evaluate their trade options. Meanwhile, the Lakers find themselves in the midst of a road trip and during that time, they will basically be making a case to the FO to remain together for another run. If they fail the "audition," I believe the FO will make every effort to pull the trigger on a big trade.

Now all we can do is wait, see and enjoy the upcoming games against Bos, NY, Orl, Charl & Cleve . It’s a rough schedule because those 5 games will be played over the next 7 days! I think the Lakers have to sweep this schedule in order to remain together.

This is going to be a great week of Lakers basketball. Now instead of playing "boring" regular season games during this road trip, they will be playing for the privilege to win another championship together. These next 5 games are going to count BIG TIME!


Posted by: frmkt | February 09, 2011 at 02:24 PM

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Repost:

Trade deadline is 2/24... The FO went public with the fact that they are willing to explore and evaluate their trade options. Meanwhile, the Lakers find themselves in the midst of a road trip and during that time, they will basically be making a case to the FO to remain together for another run. If they fail the "audition," I believe the FO will make every effort to pull the trigger on a big trade.

Now all we can do is wait, see and enjoy the upcoming games against Bos, NY, Orl, Charl & Cleve . It’s a rough schedule because those 5 games will be played over the next 7 days! I think the Lakers have to sweep this schedule in order to remain together.

This is going to be a great week of Lakers basketball. Now instead of playing "boring" regular season games during this road trip, they will be playing for the privilege to win another championship together. These next 5 games are going to count BIG TIME!


Posted by: frmkt | February 09, 2011 at 02:24 PM

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"Trade deadline is 2/24... The FO went public with the fact that they are willing to explore and evaluate their trade options. Meanwhile, the Lakers find themselves in the midst of a road trip and during that time, they will basically be making a case to the FO to remain together for another run. If they fail the "audition," I believe the FO will make every effort to pull the trigger on a big trade.

Now all we can do is wait, see and enjoy the upcoming games against Bos, NY, Orl, Charl & Cleve . It’s a rough schedule because those 5 games will be played over the next 7 days! I think the Lakers have to sweep this schedule in order to remain together.

This is going to be a great week of Lakers basketball. Now instead of playing "boring" regular season games during this road trip, they will be playing for the privilege to win another championship together. These next 5 games are going to count BIG TIME!


Posted by: frmkt | February 09, 2011 at 02:24 PM "

I'd go a step further and say the future all comes down to tomorrow. If the Lakers beat Boston convincingly, I think everything settles down and a loss against a NY or Charlotte doesn't cause a huge concern.

Hey guys. Kobe appeared on 710 ESPN's Mason & Ireland earlier today. Just thought I'd pass it along

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6106079&callsign=KSPNAM&autoplay=1

"I'd go a step further and say the future all comes down to tomorrow. If the Lakers beat Boston convincingly, I think everything settles down and a loss against a NY or Charlotte doesn't cause a huge concern."

Posted by: Bay to LA | February 09, 2011 at 03:04 PM

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I think the fact that 4 of those 5 games are back-back (Bost followed by NY then Orl followed by Charl), it's imperative that the team win those 2nd games in order to display their endurance to the FO. If they lose those 2nd of back-backs, then the team will either be accused of complacency again or lacking durability. I still think they need to sweep the remainder of the road series and for goodness sake, they simply cannot lose to Cleveland! YIKES!!

@Brylle – Black & Melo…lol.


@MVP – interesting post from TrueFan


@Lew - nothing today?

Lakers Celtics, starting five vs starting five Doc Rivers, let'se see what yuo've got!


Perkins/Bynum
KG/PAU
Pierce/Artest
Ray/Kobe
Rondo/Fisher


Mitch is a straight pimp! We in LA don't know how good it is to have a GM like him.

>>>, kendrick, pearce, rondo, garnett, robinson...all ugly."

And they look like fashion models compared to Parrish, McHale, and Bird.

1. Rasheed Wallace, 2003-04 Pistons: The Pistons acquired Wallace from the Atlanta Hawks and Mike James from the Boston Celtics on Feb. 19, 2004. At the time, Detroit was 34-22. After the trade, the Pistons went 20-6, including two eight-game winning streaks. The Pistons were heavy underdogs in the NBA Finals against the Lakers, but won 4-1.

2. Clyde Drexler, 1994-95 Rockets: The Rockets acquired Clyde Drexler (and forward Tracy Murray) from the Portland Trail Blazers for veteran forward Otis Thorpe, a 1995 first round draft choice and the draft rights to forward Marcelo Nicola on Feb. 14, 1995. Houston, the defending champion, was 30-17 at the time of the trade, but were under .500 after the trade (17-18). Houston was the No. 6 seed in the West, overcoming a 2-1 deficit to Utah in the first round and a 3-1 deficit to the Suns in the Western Conference semifinals. Houston survived five elimination games and eventually swept the Orlando Magic in the NBA Finals to become the lowest seeded team to win the NBA title (seeding began in 1984).

3. Mark Aguirre, 1988-89 Pistons: The Pistons traded Adrian Dantley and a 1991 first-round pick to the Mavericks for Mark Aguirre on Feb. 15, 1989. Aguirre played a key role for the 1988-89 Pistons, who were 32-13 before the trade, and 31-6 after. Detroit went 15-2 in the postseason, sweeping the Lakers in the 1989 NBA Finals.

4. Mychael Thompson, 1986-87 Lakers: Thompson was traded by the Spurs to the Lakers for Frank Brickowski, Petur Gudmundsson, a 1987 first-round draft pick and a 1990 second-round draft pick on Feb. 13, 1987. The Lakers were 37-12 before the trade and went 28-5 the rest of the regular season on their way to the title.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/3178/four-trades-that-helped-win-nba-titles

Posted by: Art | February 09, 2011 at 01:35 PM
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Excellent research! The question is: Do we have the goods to win it with our current back-to-back championship team with its improved roster or are the chances slim and none with slim leaving the building. If so, can a deal be made of the impact of the three above-mentioned trades? Can any player adjust to PJ's schemes that quickly, including 'Melo? Interesting.

Lakers Celtics, starting five vs starting five Doc Rivers, let'se see what yuo've got!


Perkins/Bynum
KG/PAU
Pierce/Artest
Ray/Kobe
Rondo/Fisher


Posted by: Staples 24 | February 09, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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What You've Got There Is A Game!

@Lew - nothing today?

Posted by: LRob | February 09, 2011 at 03:14 PM

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I'll be back when all this silliness of trade talks cease...

@ Tim-4-show..lol,but you just called smith worst than feces. I wonder if those guys read the blog...

Dunno if it's true or not, but what people seem to be forgeting is that mel doesn't want to stay(btw he wants to win). It's not like it's just a trade for no reason,it's an oppurtunity denver doesn't want him to walk for free. comparing bynum to Melo is crazy,but remember after a year he could come off the books.So it would be kinda like the kwame thing...

I kinda knew this artest thing would come up,you always here players deny(at first)they want to be traded.(If his brother is talking he needs to shut his pie hole). Now his name is mentioned again For capn jack or wallace.The thing is did he really want a trade,or were the lakers looking anyhow??More so how's he gonna deal with it??We all know artest can be a unstable at times,and save for the last couple games he has been playing like what tim-4show flushes down the toilet..We should believe that his play will drastically improve come playoff time??Fisher maybe,Artest dunno,and his defense hasn't been great either.
It's really ghf vs ghe indeed, cause some don't wanna give up anything...O well the decision is you know who's......
Either way lakeshow all the way..

come june there will be a parade or a flogging............

Posted by: VI Lakerfan | February 09, 2011 at 03:35 PM

repost..posted under wrong title...

I don't care if we win the next 10 games in a row.

Bynum for Carmelo is a sick trade. The Lakers would be unstoppable. The Kobe/Melo combo was money during the Olympics, it would be sweet to see that on our Laker team!

Nice work frmkt... I agree completely


@MM... Thanks for the link to Kobe’s interview. There was a great moment when Ireland asked Kobe if he ever has a problem turning off his black swan. Kobe laughed and said it ALWAYS is a problem suppressing the black mamba and that even his daughters have it so it must be genetic.
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TOM

Repost:

Unless Orlando is going to take Joe Smith, trade exceptions, Luke, RA, some cash, and a bag of peanuts for Dwight Howard, I don't see us making any trades of significance! LOL

BTW, I like Joe Smith and still want to see him get some non-garbage time run!!!!

Mitch Kupchak has never made the trade after the rumors came out..All of his trades came out of nowhere. So once there is the trade rumor in public, the trade will not happen.

MM.............Enjoyed Kobe on the Mason and Ireland Show. Thanks for sharing that!!

I'll be back when all this silliness of trade talks cease...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | February 09, 2011 at 03:34 PM
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I feel you...lol

I say stand pat and wait for Barnes and Theo to come back. the real season hasn't started yet.

If the deal does happen, what about sending Ron-Ron back to sac-town for Dalembert (plus maybe sound draft picks to sweeten the deal for the denver)? A defensive presence to plug the lane and keep our lineup big, allowing Pau to stay at the 4. Dalembert is a rebounding and shot-blocking machine who wouldn't demand the ball offensively.

Why did we not go after Peja. He is starting for Dallas. Would of been nice to have an outside presence.

CrzyFan

MM...I think what one fails to realize is AB is not going to be what he can possibly be until he is able to be injury free, or forget his injured past. I see him flashing potential, but also see him playing it safe trying not to get injured. Every time he has started to dominate, something happens and he gets injured again.


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