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Lakers feel conflicted after 89-88 loss to San Antonio Spurs

59195361With the basketball in his hands, Lakers forward Lamar Odom bounced it once, held onto it and appeared in a reflective state of mind. In disgust, Lakers guard Kobe Bryant simply threw his hands down. In elation, Spurs forward Antonio McDyess waved his arms and yelled. And while bearing a wide smile, San Antonio Coach Gregg Popovich clapped his hands repeatedly.

Those were all the instant reactions to the Lakers' 89-88 loss Thursday to the Spurs, an outcome determined by a play that involved McDyess boxing out Odom and tipping in Tim Duncan's missed 11-foot, fade-away jumper before time expired. The reactions among the Lakers in the locker room afterward appeared just as varied, not just on what happened in the final 22.7 seconds, but also on what to make of the Lakers' latest loss. The loss by the Lakers (34-16) widens the cushion of the Spurs (41-8) for first place in the Western Conference to 7 1/2 games, drops the Lakers into third place, one game behind the Dallas Mavericks (33-15), worsens their record at Staples Center to 19-8 and eclipses their 34-7 home record in the 2009-10 season. The defeat deepens their record to 1-7 against teams above them in the NBA standings and concludes a 2-3 homestand before beginning a seven-game trip Saturday that includes stops in New Orleans, Memphis, Boston, New York, Orlando, Charlotte and Cleveland before the NBA All-Star break.

"When you lose the game in the final seconds," Odom said, "it hurts a little bit more. But it happens."

This is what happened: With Lakers forward Pau Gasol guarding Duncan on the far post with 3.3 seconds remaining, McDyess set a back pick on Lakers forward Ron Artest to free up Spurs guard Manu Ginobili at the top of the key. Artest fought through the pick and covered Ginobili, but in turn, McDyess established better position in the lane against Odom, who never regained inside positioning once Duncan attempted his jumper, allowing McDyess to have full access to a left-handed tip-in despite Bryant's valiant attempt to swat the ball away.

The explanations proved wide-ranging. Odom accepted responsibility: "When Duncan took the shot, I took my eye off McDyess for a split second. That second, he got the possession. ... You battle back and you're in the position to win. You just didn't make the play. Sometimes it comes down to two people making the play or one person making the play. I didn't make it tonight." Bryant offered some defense: "Those are tough situations to get rebounds in because everybody's scrambling and everybody's getting to bodies." Lakers Coach Phil Jackson provided an X's and O's version: "Lamar was on the wrong side of [a screen.] He had to help out and Ginobili was cutting off a back pick and got caught in wrong side." And Gasol provided constructive criticism: "You have to find a body after a shot is released. It's very rare they call a foul in those situations."

59195359-1But it wasn't just that play. In fact, the Lakers simply needed one defensive stop after Gasol made a pair of free throws to give the team an 88-87 lead with 22.7 seconds remaining. Ginobili's three-point attempt fell short, but McDyess cleaned the glass. Spurs guard Tony Parker then missed a seven-foot floater in traffic, Artest couldn't secure the rebound, and the ball went out of bounds to set up San Antonio's game-winning play.

"Too many opportunities at the end of the game," Jackson said, "Four attempts cost us."

It concluded an eerily conflicting night on a day that started with owner Jerry Buss visiting practice, offering both positive reinforcement and a subtle reminder the team needs to improve. It continued with Gasol learning he made his fifth consecutive All-Star team despite season-wide inconsistency and Odom learning he missed out on his first appearance despite season-long consistency. And it ended with a loss that left the Lakers in a conflicted state of being afterward.

"We really needed to win this game," said Lakers center Andrew Bynum, who scored 10 points on four-of-seven shooting with 10 rebounds and a career-high six assists.

Do the Lakers focus on nearly managing to overcome an eight-point deficit, something they couldn't manage Sunday against Boston? "We didn't give them as many open looks," Bryant said. "Boston got wide-open looks. They got great shots. You give Hall of Famers space to knock down shots, they're going to make them. Tonight we did a much better job contesting opportunities."

Do the Lakers focus on Artest's resurgence amid reports that he wanted to be traded as he held Ginobili to five-of-17 shooting while he scored 13 points on six-of-11 shooting? "He got a lot of support from his teammates," said Jackson, who played Artest for the entire fourth quarter.

Do the Lakers focus on a balanced offense that featured Bryant nearly recording a triple-double with 16 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists? "I do that all year," Bryant said. "If I'm doubled, I'll kick it to them."

Then there's Gasol's increased aggressiveness resulting in 19 points on an eight-of-10 clip ("We know we're a better team," Gasol said, "when we get the ball and get players involved.") and Bynum's return after sitting out Tuesday against Houston because of a bone bruise in his left knee ("It felt pretty good," he said).

Or does the team lament its 42.5% shooting (Bryant: "It was an ugly game."), its three-point perimeter defense (the Spurs were six of 16) or the team's offensive inconsistency ("We're not running sets together that we do in practice today," said Bynum, whom Jackson said still needs to work on his timing and argued the team didn't get him involved enough. "We're not doing it. We're not executing.").

The Lakers' conflicted feelings point to one unfortunate reality. The team's early-season malaise and inconsistency have caught up to them, where now they have to weigh the priorities between winning and improving. San Antonio's victory extends their season-series lead to 2-0 with two more matchups remaining, a scenario that prevents the Lakers from benefiting from head-to-head results should they finish with the same record.

Jackson remained reluctant to believe any good habits could extend to the Lakers' seven-game trip, because each team features different personnel. And Bryant reiterated they need to "win a couple games" as the sole goal during the trip even when I asked whether there's anything from a developmental standpoint he also needs to see.

"It's definitely better to have a chance to win a game than lose by 10-plus points," Gasol said. "It's tough we are struggling, and now we get on the road and have opportunity to get together and get back on right track."

The Lakers would like to believe Gasol's optimism that the team is beginning to build good habits. Unfortunately for the Lakers, that has become just as flitting and unpredictable as a last-second put-back. 

--Mark Medina

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Photos: (Top) San Antonio forward Antonio McDyess, right, gets past Lakers forward Lamar Odom and scores the winning basket on a tip-in at the buzzer, lifting the Spurs to an 89-88 victory over the Lakers on Thursday at Staples Center. (Bottom) San Antonio forward Tim Duncan celebrates immediately after teammate Antonio McDyess scores the winning basket during the Lakers' 89-88 loss Thursday at Staples Center. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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Posted by: Troll Man | February 04, 2011 at 12:07 AM

So...you get our point?

Spoken without a hint of embarrassment or guilt...just SOP...

Just pick one...I'm sure the league will accommodate.

Just don't kid yourselves when you say, 'They hate us cuz they ain't us'.

No...boys and girls...

We don't hate you because we ain't you...

We hate you because you are you.

True NBA fans will say, 'Level the playing field'...
and let NBA championships really begin to mean something.

Go Kings!
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Sonnybelfast

Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 04, 2011 at 03:07 AM

Here's a suggestion!

It's the Hollywood Argyles! They'll fit right in.

Package the Saint, Drew, Paula, Fish, Lamar and the whole bunch
for Alley Ooop and a brand new 'club'.

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Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 04, 2011 at 03:23 AM

Cheat, steal, collude, whatever it takes...
is fine by many. Just get those rings!

But, for those who truly cannot see...
get a refraction.

In the meantime though....watch out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVbGnspgy_8

Coming your way.

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Larry,

Guess what? That game didn't count. LOL!!!

It stung for a while, but now I'm back...

NEXT!!!!


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

As a teacher, I'm always happy to serve up a little edification
to friends here on the board.

Keeping with the times, short videos seem the best way
to go about it.

In this particular video, which pertains to the origins of
the term 'Ally Ooop', I'm particularly fond of the rosey floral arrangement,
as well as the soft, yet firm and colorful appearance of the pillows.
However, there is far too much lighting, and the kid and mutt make the scene far too busy.

Way to go Boebee!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5q55bMe3w&feature=related

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Did it hurt? Definitely.

-The GOOD thing about these kind of loses is that our Lakers can be reminded that it won't be easy.

-These kind of loses will remind our players to PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS (box-out, rebound, etc).

-These kind of loses will only make us BETTER.

-These kind of loses will make them PRACTICE HARDER.

-These kind of loses is a must in order to 3-PEAT.

-These kind of loses RE-IGNITES the FIRE from WITHIN.

After the LAKERS' coronation in June 2011, we will look back and enjoy every moment of these.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

You're right Bat 44,

I'm enjoying each moment at this moment.

What's really great is that there are so many more to come.

Who's up next, by the way?

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

+1 jovbatz44

Sonny,

I'm keeping my faith until we get eliminated this season.

No doubt about that. =)


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Until we are still the Champions, I will always believe.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Every season the Lakeshow loses about 5 games that they shouldn't. The season if reaching the halfway point,but they have already met their quota for,not good.Kobe had a bad shooting night,but he took less than 20 shots and had double digit assists.So there goes that Kobe shot to much and didn't pass enough theory.great teams,championship teams, find a way to win when their stars have bad games.It was real painful to watch.From phil keeping Kobe and Pau out the 4th to long.(Kobe was licking his lips wanting to come in). To the bigs(teams greatest strength?) not boxing out and getting rebounds. Btw didn't Kobe have the most rebounds in this game?That's unacceptable,to much plays were those guys didn't want to jumop to grab rebounds.Trying to grab rebounds with 1 hand or tip em.Wtf?The last to plays artest tried grabbing that loose ball with 1 hand with a foot still planted on the ground ,thus turning over the ball.In the last play Odom doesn't even attempt to jump to block the shot,or try to box out. Kobe was the only player tryind down to the end. Someway somehow however,someone will say this loss is on Kobe.O well there's still a few more games, and a few more weeks till the deadline.Let's see what happens........

The Lakers desperately need a reliable scorer and or penetrator.
Bryant tries but has far too many TOs at critical times.
Maybe Mayo?he Lakers need someone other than Kobe, especially
if the guards continue to chuck up over 2/3 of the shots.

Did someone say Game? What game? LOL!!!! Preach Jovbatz44, Preach!!


Sonny, I'm keeping my faith until we get eliminated this season. No doubt about that. =)Posted by: JovBatz44 | February 04, 2011 at 04:43 AM
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Sonny I'm keeping the faith too!!!
You can count me in also Jovbatz44! And yes I have to say it... OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! It's your post that get mamba24 going in the morning. Thannnnnnkss!!!!!!!!!

@VI Lakerfan, Nice post! Keep them coming!!!

Did someone say Game? What game? LOL!!!! Preach Jovbatz44, Preach!!

Posted by: mamba24

I told you... IT WOULDN'T COUNT!!!! LOL!!!!!

It's your post that get mamba24 going in the morning. Thannnnnnkss!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mamba24


Same here, Larry!!! Thanks to you too!!!!


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

@Sonny Belfast, Good morning my brother how are you doing? Better than I, I assume. LOL! But thanks to all the memories the Lakers have given me over the years even if your prediction does prove true I won't be down on my team. You see Sonny I am the eternal optimists and not only do I still have hope that the Lakers will 3-peat but I also have hope that...Sonny Belfast...Yes You, Sonny Belfast, will return home to the Lakers Nation where you know you belong!!!!! SONNY BELFAST COME HOME YOUR LAKER NATION NEEDS YOU! Have a good day my brother!!

@Jovbatz44, LAKERS ALL DAY!!! Right back at you my brother!!

I appreciate Sock's usual honesty.

We needed to win. We didn't.

Much work to be done. Perhaps some new blood would do the trick?

I would like to buy a rebound... Good defense by both teams. Off night for Kobe - almost a triple double is an off night for the Kobester... ;-) I am glad Drew played. Phil went to his playoff rotation. A loss like this, where they fight back and have a chance to win, is a lot easier to take than the resent blow-outs. Pop is a master. If he had said something negative about the Lakers, it would have fired them up... ;-) Ron played some D. Guards shot 11 of 44. Lamar had an off game, but still had a great fourth quarter and hit a big three. Too bad about the last play... ;-) Can I buy a rebound?

It is not looking good as far as winning the Western Conference. It would take a lot of wins and a melt-down on the Spurs part. Nevertheless...

I am a Lakerholic.

Tough loss. Hope is not lost but it is coming increasingly difficult to find positives on a team that is a little overpaid. We cannot blame the loss on anyone, not Pau, not Ron, and not Mamba. It is looking like we really just are not as good as we were last year and the one before that. The Spurs roster did not drastically change like say the Heat, Celtics, or Bulls and they are playing with some desire and energy. Why can't we? If a trade is what we need, then lets make it happen soon or try some tinkering to the starting lineup. Of course, this could all just be part of the Zen Master's plan for developing new material for the book I heard he was writing about this season.


That was an encouraging loss.

Miraculous turnarounds only happen in the movies, they take real time in the real world. That was tough but it was a step in the right direction.

It's February, players get injured, teams slump, teams gel, trades happen.
There's more basketball to be played and this team of vets won't quit.

I'm as happy as next fan for the BUTLER win last night.

Mind you, it was a home game where it's like spotting the home team 6pts. Still, it was a butler win and that's far better than an actual loss.

I am hopeful, but barely. Not much else to say except we need to improve now... no, like yesterday

Oh well, tough loss.
What makes me the maddest about last nights game?
That it was on so darn late, 1 am is past most peoples bed time, isn't it?
I would guess if the games were on earlier more people would watch and if more people watch they could increase the cost for advertising and make more money. Whatever.

Was a little surprised to see Blake wind down the 4th quarter instead of Fish, has that been happening often?
What else?
The big guys need jumping lessons, they appear not to know how to do that very well.
Or they just don't like it, too tired I guess. Or maybe I'm just tired.

Is anyone else tired? I mean tired of seeing them try to do the one handed tip of rebounds to themselves or each other.
What happened to going up and grabbing it with both hands and coming down with elbows out?

In the first half (pretty sure it was the first half), or maybe I was half asleep, or is it half awake?
Either way, whatever, it was one half or the other half. Anyway, Duncan went up for a dunk and Kobe lept up (as in jumped real high) and gave him a hard foul preventing the dunk, then just stood there for several seconds with a stare, like, it seemed to me, he was saying no dunks on me baby.
Why oh why, oh why I ask, won't Gasol, Odom and Bynum do that? These namby pamby moves, where they just stand there with arms straight up, and even move backwards as the opposing player goes in for a dunk or layup, are getting pathetic. Take the foul, make it a hard one, and other players may think twice about doing it the next time.
There is no intimidation with this team. At least not yet. No intimidation with the way they play, no home court intimidation or dominance either.
No attitude of "this is our house".
But it's time for some.

Maybe it was my imagination, maybe I was asleep and was dreaming, but it looked to me that the Spurs had some nice, crisp ball movement going on.
And player movement. Speedy passes to find the open guy. Not every play, but often enough that it was noticeable.
The Lakers just seem flat. And yet, they still almost won.

I know they don't need a traditional point guard that can drive, create his own shot, hit from outside, that sorta stuff, but man oh man, wouldn't it be nice to have one? And to have won. Last night. And more often this season.

I wonder, if they start jumping, start playing with an attitude, start defending the basket against dunks and layups with 'real men' fouls, actually run their offensive system more often, actually box out consistently, actually play like they have high BB IQ's, how good they might really be.
Must we wait for the playoffs to see this type of basketball? Bummer.
When the playoffs finally start, will they be able to overcome the bad habits they are establishing during the season?
Beats me.
This team is a riddle coached by an enigma.

So, with that being said, or written, I'll end with this link to a song. It should be played during every pre-game and time-out until further notice.
Don't need to play the whole thing, but for sure the chorus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmfrPrN1L_s

Go Lakers.
No, really.
I mean it.
Get it going already.

Morning crew.

Glad to know the team is as conflicted as I am. It seems as though we were lured into the Spurs game plan and couldn't extract ourselves.

14% 3-point is deplorable. We were +10 in the paint, although the last tip in the paint created the L. Our offense was very stagnant and the game seemed to move along at a snail's pace.

I liked Ron's game although he should have moved inside the 3pt line 4 more times. Pau good game, AB good game, LO good game until the last second.

Blake, Fish and Shannon need to find their mojo on this trip and very fast. I am actually really missing Barnes as I really like his creativity and moves to the post.

I feel good because I think our defense showed up and we didn't take advantage of the offensive opportunities we had. I know that won't happen again and I know our rebounding will be much better.

I'm still conflicted and this post didn't make things better. At least there's another game tomorrow...

Cheers - PLG


I am upset with coach Jackson. AB should have replaced LO...we needed to rebound the Ball. We allowed Five...Five shots....The spurs are too good to allow such. Like it or not They are ready to take our title. Its too early to worry but its time to play solid De-fen-se...Like Sir Charles saids....

The feelings I feel about this one point loss are proportionate to the feelings I would have had, had the Lakers won. Had the they (Lakers) won, the team still play bad D (3rd quarter) and O, but they lost and as bad as the defense (3rd quarter) and offense was, they still only lost by one point.

Honest questions (curiosity) and hope to get honest unbiased answers.
For those who are team Fisher.

Why do you guy n gals think Fisher sat the entire 4th?
What made Phil make that decision?

Lakers suck!

Laker fan-

I was kinda rooting for you last nite but you just dont have what it takes to beat good teams. I tried to warn you about signing Dribble Dribble but you wouldnt have any of it. You thought Mitch had pulled something over on the league again. But dont worry, you can trade him in a couple of years when hes got that expiring contract. Seems like Mitch loves signing guys to big contracts so they will have more value in the future.

The Lakers cant shoot, cant defend and now cant get a rebound vs a small team when they need it but dont worry!!! Its only the preseason. The genius that is kobeXmvp will remind us that the season hasnt even started. He has the mindset of champion. I cant wait for the season to start, its gonna be a blast.

BTW has anyone heard from Putz our banner folder?

He must be working on the last rites prayer!

Good Morning Laker Nation,

This game was played with playoff intensity. The Lakers focus was better and they defended better. Yet still couldn’t scratch out a victory. The good news is the effort is becoming more consistent. They didn’t develop these bad habits (leaving shooters open, not boxing out, being careless with the ball) overnight and they’re not going to disappear overnight. I can see championship level basketball starting to take form….but in the meantime this one stung! Because we know “Almost Doesn’t Count”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jC5MkGu7eU

They didn’t develop these bad habits (leaving shooters open, not boxing out, being careless with the ball) overnight and they’re not going to disappear overnight.
Posted by: LRob
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Hey LRob, I was wondering...

This years line up of:
Bynum, Gasol, Odum, Artest, Bryant, Fish, Brown

Looks eerily similar to last years line up of:
Bynum, Gasol, Odum, Artest, Bryant, Fish, Brown

When did they develop these bad habits?
Why did they develop these bad habits?
Shouldn't they know each others moves inside out by now?
And outside in?
Just looking for answers...

Oops, forgot to add LO in there also, this year/last year.

Oops, no I didn't.
Never mind, geesh, duh.

This game was played with playoff intensity.

Posted by: LRob | February 04, 2011 at 08:04 AM

Maybe some Lakers were in playoff mode. I liked what seen from Kobe Pau Odom and Ron, but the rest, eh.
Also I don't think Phil was playoff intensed (made up word :)). Playoffs, Phil wont sit Kobe and Pau that long in the 4th quarter.

Sonny, I'm keeping my faith until we get eliminated this season. No doubt about that. =)Posted by: JovBatz44 | February 04, 2011 at 04:43 AM
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Sonny I'm keeping the faith too!!!
You can count me in also Jovbatz44! And yes I have to say it... OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! It's your post that get mamba24 going in the morning. Thannnnnnkss!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mamba24 | February 04, 2011 at 05:35 AM

Needed those posts this morning.

Good morning Laker family. Keep the faith! Still have a championship core, still have a chance to take it all. I won't turn my gaze to the left or to the right. Purple and Gold is all I see, and even when they're walking through the season in a not so dominant fashion, I do not doubt. I believe this team can still do what it needs to do. Pick up that d, and everything else will fall into place. They were forcing Spurs turnovers. Despite shooting miserably in the second half, we were right there.

Take a deep breath, Laker fam. Collect yourselves and remember who we are. BACK TO BACK WORLD CHAMPIONS BABY!

GO LAKERS!!!

BTW has anyone heard from Putz our banner folder?

He must be working on the last rites prayer!

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 07:58 AM

First of all, he's no folder as you well know after last years game 7.

Second of all, nothing he is is in any way affiliated with you.

As if.

PHIL said it, "they rarely call fouls in that situation". Go grab a body and boxout into the second row if you have to. It's the mentality and the fact is that we have the SOFTEST POWER-forward to ever play the game. Yet he may be the most skilled, the position demands something else. We have been able to hide his lack of dexterity with the inspired play by Ariza and Artest, the will of Kobe, the size of Bynum, the leadership of Fisher, and a bench led by Lamar. Those players aren't over-achieving this year, therefore we need Pau to play the position as it's intended to be played, but he CAN'T. We need a POWER-forward to every now and then take a HARD foul, dive to the floor, PROTECT the lane, get MEANINGFUL fouls, and play with the strength of a Roman column. For this team, the way it's built now, we need to make a change starting with Pau.

Pau and Artest for: (in the order of merit)

Aldridge and Batum (portland)
Noah and Deng (Chicago)
West and Ariza (New Orleans)
Granger and Collison (indiana)
Love and Wesley Johnson (minnesota)

LTILF-

Must be all those home wins that gives you hope!

Spin something else for me ... I love how Laker fan does that.

First of all, he's no folder as you well know after last years game 7.

Second of all, nothing he is is in any way affiliated with you.

As if.

Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:25 AM

You hurt my feelings. Let check the standings so I can feel better!

LTILF-

Must be all those home wins that gives you hope!

Spin something else for me ... I love how Laker fan does that.

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 08:30 AM

OK, I'll remind you of Fall Pierce "spinning" his prediction that they weren't coming back to LA last year. Remember that? Oh yes, you do. Remember how you cried when you lost? Yeah, you remember that. No spinning required on my part.


OK, I'll remind you of Fall Pierce "spinning" his prediction that they weren't coming back to LA last year. Remember that? Oh yes, you do. Remember how you cried when you lost? Yeah, you remember that. No spinning required on my part.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:34 AM

But it was a close loss. According to Laker fan ... Thats a positive thing. Whats there to cry about?

Keep spinning!

First of all, he's no folder as you well know after last years game 7.

Second of all, nothing he is is in any way affiliated with you.

As if.

Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:25 AM

You hurt my feelings. Let check the standings so I can feel better!

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 08:33 AM


Let's check the standings. YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! I feel better already.

OK, I'll remind you of Fall Pierce "spinning" his prediction that they weren't coming back to LA last year. Remember that? Oh yes, you do. Remember how you cried when you lost? Yeah, you remember that. No spinning required on my part.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:34 AM

But it was a close loss. According to Laker fan ... Thats a positive thing. Whats there to cry about?

Keep spinning!

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 08:36 AM

Oh, you mean you didn't cry when you lost? Then you celebrated! You are a closet Laker fan!!! C'mon, show us your purple and gold undies. That's a good little 131. You know you love us. Why else would you spend so much time here?

*We don't need a trade. We get Matt Barnes back and we're as deep as any team in the NBA.

*We are losing, yes, but I'm seeing positive signs coming out now with all the scrutiny and trade talk going on.

*Phil Jackson loves that fact that his team is playing significant games down to the wire. It is this kind of experience that gets a team through the tough times in the playoffs. Phil Jackson teaches his teams to handle great adversity in the regular season. This season is no different.

*Last nights loss did not hurt nearly as bad as the Celtic loss. I still feel we have an advantage against the Spurs with HCA or no HCA

*What we need is to get a better record than the Celtics. I do not want to play a game 6 or 7 in Boston.

Go Lakers!
Go Aztecs!!

Let's check the standings. YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! I feel better already.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:37 AM

Keep spinning! BTW ... Dont forget the dramamine!

spurs only ever play well for half a season, theyll drop off in the second half

spurs only ever play well for half a season, theyll drop off in the second half

The Queens still have fans in Sacramento? Wow! Go Queens!!!!

Let's check the standings. YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! YOU'RE NUMBER TWO! I feel better already.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:37 AM

Keep spinning! BTW ... Dont forget the dramamine!

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 08:41 AM

OK 131. You are just too much man for me. I can't live with myself. I think I need to lay down and die. Oh, 131 is so brutal. What a bad man he is. I can't take it. Please, no more!

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

GO LAKERS!!!!!! BACK TO BACK CHAMPS. NO SPINNING REQUIRED. :-)

Have no problem with this loss. liked the way the team fought back. just not sure why Bynum was on the bench in the last 7 mins. of the game?

Art & LRob,

From let-go, you can see the symptoms of Laker weaknesses. They could chase leads but couldn't contain them to their favor. Our Lakers are two step slower this year and has no perimeter threat. Artest and LO giveth away what they made, their defense leaves a lot of hole while Kobe is not the same Kobe we used to know on defense, kinda' on lazy mode during season games and tries to pick up when he needs too but not on a consistent basis. I really not sure how they could turn around such maladies in the playoffs. If Mitch wants to change dynamics, he has to put in a young, fast and sharp shooting PG. Someone who could spark some dynamo from the Lakers. In a Nascar analogy, they still have a good souped-up engine but an old one that needs to be oiled at all times, changed tires to withstand the heat of the race. Now if we depend on Kobe, three bigs hoping for another miracle that could happen again in 2011, well hitch that bandwagon to the star and wish that Mickey Mouse could inflict injuries on players of other advancing teams. The season's performance is usually the highlight window of the playoffs. what you see now is what you usually accomplish in the future. It does not pay to cram or shortcut success.

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

GO LAKERS!!!!!! BACK TO BACK CHAMPS. NO SPINNING REQUIRED. :-)
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:45 AM

Sorry! I misread your name. I thought you were longtimelakerfan! I take back everything. I dont have any issue with you ... its LTILF as you can tell when I first responded to you!

Honest questions (curiosity) and hope to get honest unbiased answers.
For those who are team Fisher.

Why do you guy n gals think Fisher sat the entire 4th?
What made Phil make that decision?

Posted by: Magia32 | February 04, 2011 at 07:37 AM


Cricket sounds?

LTLL-

I almost forgot to thank you for the compliment!!!

Sonny,

I'm keeping my faith until we get eliminated this season.
No doubt about that. =)
LAKERS ALL DAY!!!
Posted by: JovBatz44 | February 04, 2011 at 04:43 AM

Dude....I know you're getting that GUT feeling that something BAD is about to HAPPEN. ELIMINATION is right around the CORNER, I wouldn't expect nothing LESS from a BANDWAGONER.

So....keep the FAITH. And continue looking down that tunnel, poised to click on the SWITCH in the POST season. And that light you see...... it the SILVER EXPRESS, lights OUT.

Steve Blake needs to understand that we hired Sacha to hit a bunch of 3p shots and he didn't. Now he's gone. So if he wants to stay, it's better start hitting those shots. Ball passing, team player, bla-bla...

Matt Barnes, with his D and his 3s is being missed badly.

I hope is not too late already...

I've been reading this blog for some time. Not much thought put into the majority of the posts. It's either unfounded optimism or frustrated blathering, neither of which provide much insightfulness.

Teams are beating the Lakers because opposing teams have analyzed what they've been doing for the past 3 years, have made adjustments, and now realize what the Laker weaknesses are.

Also, the Laker core players have had their skills decline. Pau only performs well in certain matchups. Artests has his moments, but isn't consistent. Lamar cannot carry the team, and neither can Bynum. Kobe's FG percentage has dropped dramatically, as well as his defensive ability. The Laker roster updates/bench haven't panned out, and the deficiencies of Fisher can no longer be compensated for. Unfortunately, the core of the team will stay together as long as they win in the Finals. Thus, no trades...until they lose.

Whether we want to admit it or not, no team in any sport can continuously make the Finals year after year, not even the dominate teams, and this Lakers team has never been dominate. For fans to expect yet another Finals appearance is improbable, as well as unreasonable. And no, the Lakers will not "turn it on" in the playoffs. You guys continue putting all your eggs in one basket and you'll end up with egg on your face.

Again, no team can continuously make it to the Finals. The Lakers are no different, and they WILL NOT MAKE THE FINALS this year. The 2-peat was fun. Hold on to those memories. Maybe we'll get back to the finals a year or two before Kobe retires, but the days of Laker domination in the NBA are coming to an end. At some point, the Lakers will land a big namer player, or two. But this won't happen for some time.

The Lakers will not make it out of the 2nd round, and that 2nd round exit will mark the end of this current Lakers squad as we know it.

Enjoy it while you can.

OK 131. You are just too much man for me.

Posted by: longtimelakerlover | February 04, 2011 at 08:45 AM

Really...I'd imagine 131 is used to hearing the opposite from women...

The Lakers, collectively as a team, should be angry at this last second lost. Instead Odom said "it happens", as if he accepted the defeat, its a loser mentality, he should be mad at himself for not boxing out Dyess. Where is the FIRE, the HEART of a champion? Frankly I don't see it, so far, this year, the 3-peat light slowly dims, fading away, unless the Lakers wake up from a coma, and leave everything they have on the court before it is too late. Loosing because your opponents were better is one thing, but it is not acceptable because not playing with ferocious intensity, with a WILL to win.

I actually felt good about the game in spite of the loss. Kobe played a good game because he got evryone involved and engaged. Like Barkley and Smith said Kobe will have to be a facilitator for the Lakers to make it. Of course I said that months ago and was condemned for being a Kobe hater. But 40 points with no assists will not cut it.

@Sonnybelfast

I love it when Laker haters spend so much time on our sites, spewing their poisoned opinions. It reminds me what a dominating force our team is when other teams fans pay so much attention to the Lakers. Keep it up, Sonnybelfast! Maybe if you keep watching it will eventually sink in what a consecutive championship team looks like. I love that the Lakers are so annoying to you!

GO LAKERS!!!

Laker Analyst : I had said what you have just said couple of months ago, let me repeat : they will not make the Finals , it's lucky for them to make the 2nd round,early exit will mark the end of Lakers glory , and it takes quite a long while for the Lakers to come back , but it's when Kobe retires.

I meant " after Kobe retires "

Why wasn't Bynum in to rebound on that last possession, especailly after they had to throw it in with 6 seconds left? No excuse for not blocking out, tough loss.

first of all being a laker is a hard task they dont get the calls that most players get not just this game but lots of games i think the ref be to buzzy watching kobe there was a charged that wasnt called but they moved on i think phil with 4.9 left should took blake out insert bynum went big this lost should help them devolop themselves and will someone beside kobe take a tech ( coaches)

The main thing I take away from this game is how the Lakers took little pride afterwards in showing good effort and showing some good developments in execution. They're at the point now where they're beginning to care more and more about the result. Had the Lakers showed the same kind of effort they did against San Antonio earlier in the season, they would have significantly fewer losses and wouldn't have to hinge their success on always winning tough games. To a degree that's why Phil has been more troubled with not beating the bad teams because he knows facing good teams like the Spurs can be decided on a whim of late-game plays

Everyone complains that Bynum is ethier to fragile or always hurt but when he's not hurt and in the game in perfect post position, we swing the ball to the other side as if he's a bum in the post!!! Im jus a fan, and I can clearly see that he plays against San Antonio extremely well. Why in the hell wasn't he in the game towards the end, especially to put a body on someone or to protect the rim or to frustrate a shooter??

BTW has anyone heard from Putz our banner folder?

He must be working on the last rites prayer!

Posted by: 131-92 | February 04, 2011 at 07:58 AM

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Why the personal attack from a troll allowed?

Everyone complains that Bynum is ethier to fragile or always hurt but when he's not hurt and in the game in perfect post position, we swing the ball to the other side as if he's a bum in the post!!! Im jus a fan, and I can clearly see that he plays against San Antonio extremely well. Why in the hell wasn't he in the game towards the end, especially to put a body on someone or to protect the rim or to frustrate a shooter??

Posted by: Notorious S.I.D | February 04, 2011 at 01:08 PM

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You are so right!!
I wonder what PJ has to say about that.

GO SPURS GO!!!! best in the league baby!!!!!!!!! #1

There are many a good teams in the Nba,Spurs for example is a better playing team than our Lakers,they play with courage and commitment,and what they do better than our Lakers is that they play the game as a team,there is no one man show.In the Spurs game no man will try to score 40 or 50 points and still lose the game,they all played for each other.Being a Laker fan for all my life we can make a lot of comments because we have seen it all,we know what is required for a team to play as a group and win games.We were there when Lakers were Show Time,with Kareem,Magic,Worthy,AC Green,Cooper and co.And they played every game with pashion and flair,never wanting to lose.When these Show Time Lakers were in town everybody wanted to see Magic,Worthy and Kareem,because they know it was a basket ball extravaganza,basket ball at its best.Then came the mighty Chicago Bulls with Jordan,Pippen,Horace Grant and John Paxson led by our present dear beloved Zen Master PJ and Tex Winter who conquered all comers.Now this Present Laker team could be winners again but is doing injustice to the legacy of Phil Jackson's coaching Philosphy of playing as a team and not putting up a 'One Man Show' and defending well and covering for your team mate.

There are many a good teams in the Nba,Spurs for example is a better playing team than our Lakers,they play with courage and commitment,and what they do better than our Lakers is that they play the game as a team,there is no one man show.In the Spurs game no man will try to score 40 or 50 points and still lose the game,they all played for each other.Being a Laker fan for all my life we can make a lot of comments because we have seen it all,we know what is required for a team to play as a group and win games.We were there when Lakers were Show Time,with Kareem,Magic,Worthy,AC Green,Cooper and co.And they played every game with pashion and flair,never wanting to lose.When these Show Time Lakers were in town everybody wanted to see Magic,Worthy and Kareem,because they know it was a basket ball extravaganza,basket ball at its best.Then came the mighty Chicago Bulls with Jordan,Pippen,Horace Grant and John Paxson led by our present dear beloved Zen Master PJ and Tex Winter who conquered all comers.Now this Present Laker team could be winners again but is doing injustice to the legacy of Phil Jackson's coaching Philosphy of playing as a team and not putting up a 'One Man Show' and defending well and covering for your team mate.


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