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Lakers Coach Phil Jackson says "door's open" for trades; Bynum to miss tonight's game because of a bone bruise

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Lakers Coach Phil Jackson acknowledged that the "door's open for business" regarding possible trades involving the slumping defending NBA champions.

It was a follow-up to Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak's proclomation Monday that the team would look into trade opportunities because it was underachieving.

"It was a good calling card that Mitch threw out there," Jackson said Tuesday.

The Lakers probably won't make wholesale changes via multi-player trades the same way Orlando did in December, Jackson said.

"We're obviously not happy with the way we've played recently but...the reality is we have a team that's pretty experienced and knows how to play in the playoffs, so I doubt if we do a multiple-[player] change," Jackson said.

The Lakers have a $91-million payroll, the highest in the NBA. They are 33-15, 7-1/2 games behind San Antonio in the Western Conference, and are 1-4 against the four teams with better records (Boston, Miami, Chicago and San Antonio).

Meanwhile, center Andrew Bynum will not play Tuesday against Houston because of a bone bruise in his left knee, an injury revealed Tuesday morning in an MRI exam. He is listed as day-to-day. Bynum had surgery on his right knee last summer.

Bynum was injured in Sunday's game against Boston, though he kept playing. He was hurt when Celtics forward Paul Pierce boxed him out while going for a rebound, Jackson said.

"Structurally, he's fine. It's going to be a day-to-day thing," Jackson said. "Bone bruises are a little bit difficult to just say when a guy's going to come back."

-Mike Bresnahan

Photo: Phil Jackson. Credit: Alex Gallardo / Reuters.

 
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wow...........that didn't take long did it? Andrew hurt while playing basketball. Will it ever end? How much patience will the lakers have? He'll probably be out for a month at minimum.

Uh Oh.

I hate to say it, but it is time to make some changes. The lack of effort is staggering. It is time to address the point guard position. Unbelievable trades aside, it may be time to make a move.

Wow........... That didn't take long did it? Someone capping on Andrew because he got hurt playing basketball. Will it ever end? [End sarcasm.]

Have you ever played basketball? Yeah, you get hurt. It's part of the game. A bone bruise doesn't make you injury prone. Someone crashing into your knees doesn't make you injury prone. It makes you HUMAN.

Go Lake Show!

Seriously.........Jim Buss has to let it go. Andrew needs a new home. somewhere where no contact is allowed. Like curling...or horseshoes

Actually is does make you injury prone because other players don't get a bone bruise when people rub against them.

ANDREW I GOT YOUR BACK!!! SIT UNTIL YOU ARE 100% WELL MY BROTHER!!!!
Screw the silly Hero Spit. Your team needs you well in the Playoffs.

No worries about a bone bruise. I remember seeing him in I believe the 3rd quarter, coming off the floor and pointing to his knee with Gary Vitti standing over him. Might keep him out a game or two, that's ok, he could get a breather from the long rehab process and being pressed right into duty.

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Art: Enjoyed your verse from 12:15. You are a poet if you didn't know it!

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The reason why the Lakers probably wouldn't deal with the Bulls, any move Chi-town makes they want to be one-sided. That is why this guy Gar Forman doesn't make many. Remember when they said they wouldn't throw in Luol Deng into a possible Kobe deal. LUOL DENG???? I see the odds of them making a trade for Pau longer than the Cav's losing streak...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

LRob,

Laker Tom will advocate ANYTHING that will ensure more minutes and more stats for Bynum. He did not want Lamar re-signed to ensure Bynum would start and finish games, and now he wants to trade Gasol, the second most important Laker for three straight finals teams, because he is slumping. Wow. In Tom's world, Gasol and Lamar are NOT assets for championship teams, they are liabilities and mere obstacles that get in the way of Bynum's minutes.

If Lakers make a trade with Pau may be the beginning of their crossing of the desert, the last ring would be the last in this decade.

"Meanwhile, center Andrew Bynum will not play Tuesday against"...bla-bla-bla...

Huh?

WHAT??!?

...oh...that...


Going "0 for", especially at home in statement games is troublesome no matter how Phil spins it. Teams are better, designed to beat the 2 time champs and they're doing it.

I'd say the "complacency" excuse has run it's course. Yes, these are the dog days, but it's also LA and at these prices, in Kobe's wane and Phil's swan song, June is the only acceptable outcome.

Trade talk might be a ploy considering the mid season triangle learning curve but you don't trade the other guy that got us to the final dance 3 years and counting unless it's mutual. It'll be really interesting to see how Pau plays tonight.

It is difficult to mask the disappointment in the Lakers this season. Understandably, a back to back championshiop roster is going to face challenges in extending their recent performance, but some of the losses are inexcusable. Losing to the Celtics in a close game - acceptable. Losing to the Kings and allowing 70% from the field - inexcusable. You have to wonder if they really want these games or if they've tasted the fruits of success too long to remember the thrill in each victory. Either way, I support change.

"The reason why the Lakers probably wouldn't deal with the Bulls, any move Chi-town makes they want to be one-sided. That is why this guy Gar Forman doesn't make many. Remember when they said they wouldn't throw in Luol Deng into a possible Kobe deal. LUOL DENG???? I see the odds of them making a trade for Pau longer than the Cav's losing streak...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | February 01, 2011 at 12:57 PM "

Wasn't it Kobe himself that didn't want Luol Deng included in the deal? I thought Kobe vetoed it himself when LA was insisting on getting Deng and Kobe thought it didn't leave him enough talent to play with in Chicago.


@BAY TO LA...
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“I think all of the Lakers weaknesses are currently compounding each other. They're slower at guarding the perimeter, Ron Artest is slower at guarding the opposing team's scorer, Kobe has to be used more conservatively, and Pau and Bynum are both more finesse than physical.”
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Excellent post with great points, Bay to LA. You hit the nail on the head with the comment that the Lakers weaknesses are compounding each other. It’s one thing to have make up for Fish’s 1 of every game but when you throw in Ron’s consistent disappearing act, Pau’s uninspiring weak and soft performances, and subpar play from Steve Blake, who was supposed to give us a better option at point guard, it’s not surprising that the Lakers are struggling. While I do disagree on Bynum being more finesse, I definitely now see clearly what you have been ranting about for months.
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“It's hard to deflect the criticisms about old age and slow defense when the entire starting lineup (including Derek Fisher) is penciled in to be a starter for 2 more years after this one.”
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The above point about our starting lineup for this and the next two years is what has triggered me to support trading Pau Gasol for Carmelo Anthony. If Denver gets desperate, we may be able to get Melo and even Chauncey. We might have to give up our two prized rookies and some draft picks as well as maybe UPS and Blake if Denver would not accept Artest and Fisher but the smart move at this point in time is to make a move to save this season as well as extending Kobe’s championship window by a couple of years. A starting lineup of Kobe, Chauncey, Melo, Lamar, and Drew would give us a much younger, tougher, and more athletic and physical lineup that could win a couple of more titles before Kobe retired. And Melo would be insurance in the event that Drew did not become the dominate center for which the Lakers are hoping and praying. Time for a bold move.
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TOM

Did y'all ever hear that comment/axiom:

The truth will come out.


Guys it's a bone bruise, get over it. It's not like he tore a ligament and is out for 3 months. A little rest and he'll be back on the court. It's one of those little things you come to expect. You can't stack this with his other 2 freak injuries. You stack this one with something like a strained hammy or a minor ankle strain, something like that.

Bone bruises dont happen from brushing against people. Boston is a very physical team and all it takes is one of their dirty players to intentionally knee him to make it happen. Those guys are trying to hurt our boys, test all their injuries on the court to punk them and break them down.


Trade P-ussei Bumyn,

He doesn't play anyway's

and was called a Wuss by coach Brian Shaw,


BandWagon!!!

BYNUM FOR MELO?

Posted by: OldHippy | February 01, 2011 at 01:17 PM

And what do you propose we do with Barnes and Artest? What do you suppose we do about shoring up the hole in the middle when Bynum is gone? Who's going to be able to reliably play center all season for us? Gasol certainly won't. Who comes off the bench for Odom if Gasol does play center? Who comes off the bench for Gasol? Stupid trade proposals I swear.

If I adopted the same rationale about my relationship with Mrs. DBDH as the Lakers do about the regular season, I'd be divorced by now! You can't just coast and hope when you "flip the switch" that everything's gonna be okay.

p.s. Mrs DBDH does look pretty awesome in a Lakers jersey, though! Meow!


DBDH!

If I adopted the same rationale about my relationship with Mrs. DBDH as the Lakers do about the regular season, I'd be divorced by now! You can't just coast and hope when you "flip the switch" that everything's gonna be okay.

p.s. Mrs DBDH does look pretty awesome in a Lakers jersey, though! Meow!


DBDH!

I think this team needs to sign Magic Johnson back to be the starting PG.

He pulled out his shares.

Is he eligible?

Hobbitmage...Be Humble!

Anyone,

How does Bynum give us a tougher lineup?

[ I'd ask LakerTom, but I don't think he's talking to me. I also don't think
I'd understand his answer, but that's slightly different. :) Oh, well. ]

I think this team needs to sign Magic Johnson back to be the starting PG.
He pulled out his shares. Is he eligible? Posted by: Steve G | February 01, 2011 at 01:28 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got much love for Drew. He's played hurt and through injury for the last couple of years, but he's been lying to the organization, media and us for the last 2 years. Period. He hasn't recovered. And what really frustrates me, and probably other fans is that he's been able to fool Vitti (one of the best, if not the best in the business). Can someone please remind me why the FO signed Drew early before he became a free agent?

Pau, you're not going to get "fed". You seem to be pretty happy with your servings of championship "leftovers". Until you get after it and start feeling the pangs of hunger you're not going it "eat".

It's not time to panic; but it is time to black glove the glock.

On to the NEXT ONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oz0_0-Pw-g

Are we all getting it on who we'd be getting back in the talked about Pau-for-'Melo trade? Do all of us get it?

It's Carmelo Anthony people. The most lethal scorer outside of Kobe in the game today.

Pau has not looked himself this year - for whatever the reason. Nor has Ron Ron. Two of my personal favorite Lakers, of all-time for that matter.

But it's Carmelo freakin Anthony people! Wow. Kobe and Carmelo. Yes, it would work because of the respect factor with 'Melo, the skill-level of Kobe. It's NOT the Miami experiment, two similar age players, one of whom is coming to play Robin but most people look at Batman.

We happen to have on the bench another capable big that could slide right in for Pau. Yes, a tough loss to the front court, but the chemistry and camaraderie just hasn't been there for a while now - not like it has been the past couple years. Something is off, something is screwy.

Can it all get straightened out? Yes. Can we bank on that? No. Hopefully, things will start to come together the closer we get to the playoffs, but if things stay out-of-kilter - something should be done to help kick-start this squad.

Too many reasons why a 'Melo trade wouldn't happen, but IF it did - my goodness. A Billups-Kobe-Melo-L.O.-Drew lineup would be downright scary-good. Melo is also 4-years younger than Pau, so we could see Drew/Melo becoming the core of this group as the mamba starts to ease into retirement in a couple years.

Then, just envision Dwight Howard coming in and creating an incredibly talented frontcourt tandem with Drew? OK, getting ahead of ourselves here, but if things don't start straightening themselves out something seems to be necessary because if the Lakers are simply looking to find the switch in April it may be too late.

Just keepin' things real. Purple and gold people. 'Melo in a Lakers uni would be special, and may be a way to keep this dynasty-train rolling along a little longer too...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Grow up hobbitmage and stop your baiting. It really brings this blog down. Can't you summon up the hobbit from a couple years ago, or is this new hobbit repressing the former one, the one that was wiser, funnier, lighter and not singlemindedly obsessed with certain posters on the blog?


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

It's not time to panic; but it is time to black glove the glock. Posted by: heh8meN1 | February 01, 2011 at 01:31 PM
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Hell of a Phrase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They need to trade their lackluster attitude for one with appetite to win a title. Anyone know how to do that?

Mrs DBDH does look pretty awesome in a Lakers jersey, though! Meow!
Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | February 01, 2011 at 01:27 PM
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I believe you my brother...so does Mrs. Mamba24!!! Lol!

Too bad the team can't trade their fans for some less whiny ones.

Bay to LA: I'm not sure about the Kobe-Deng trade scenarios, I remember Kobe publicly saying he didn't want to go to a team that was trading away their best assets to get him (as if Mitch would entertain taking less than full-value for Kobe, which no way would the Lakers even have gotten back 'full' value for him). I also recall seeing in the news that Chi-town wouldn't include Deng in a deal, that was what was discussed on sports radio at that time - how crazy Chicago was.

Unless the GM's come out and state what went down I guess we'll never know for absolute...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

The Lakers will be fine as soon as Pau decides to start really playing - probably after the All-Star break.

The Lakers will be fine as soon as Pau decides to start really playing - probably after the All-Star break.

You pukes in LA better start to worry...all it really takes to beat these POSs is to crowd their arse on the court and contest every shot...these Lackers will fold as they have shown during this season so far.

Silver and Black!!!

You pukes in LA better start to worry...all it really takes to beat these POSs is to crowd their arse on the court and contest every shot...these Lackers will fold as they have shown during this season so far. Silver and Black!!! Posted by: Eli | February 01, 2011 at 01:45 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!! OH SWEET JESUS!!! PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!!!!!!!

Too bad the team can't trade their fans for some less whiny ones. Posted by: link | February 01, 2011 at 01:39 PM
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how about bynum and ron for melo and nene?

after more thought, I think it's foolish to trade Pau. The problem is that we want him to be something he's not. Pau can't be the banger/enforcer. His game is finesse and we need to create an environment and chemistry that allows him to be himself. In order to do so, we need tough hustle guys at the 5 and 4 positions to help ease the pressure on Pau. Bynum is more of a finesse player like Pau so if I had to choose, I'd take the spaniard.

I've seen enough Bynum to believe that he will never be an elite nba player. At best he can be a solid contributor but not a team leader. Bynum won't be able to put a team on his shoulders the way Shaq, Kobe and Pau have done.

I was most disappointed with the way Cousin's outplayed Bynum last week. I remember Cousin's talking smack about Bynum after getting drafted saying that Bynum didn't deserve to touch the trophy. I was sure Bynum would make him eat his tweets when they both matched up at full health. It went the other way around with Cousin's perhaps having his best pro game at Bynum's expense.

This will probably be our last opportunity to trade Bynum and get something of value for him.


7 months ago, a champaign soaked Kobe Bryant said, "I can't say enough about the Spaniard". Guess that was then.

7 months ago, a champaign soaked Kobe Bryant said, "I can't say enough about the Spaniard". Guess that was then. Posted by: VMan | February 01, 2011 at 01:55 PM
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Stop it!! Stop it I say!!!! LOL!!!

I hate doing this.......but just for fun!!!

Pistons:
Caracter/Walton/Blake

Lakers:
Prince/Maxiell

Is it possible? Salary-wise yes. But lighting rarely strikes twice and I know that. But man, Prince would fit nicely and the Pistons may want to shed some salary.

If it weren't for Bynum always getting hurt, we'd have a 3-peat already. With L.O on the team, Bynum can be traded. The Lakers have enough offense but needs someone to hold down the defense

Pau will not be able to hold his own ground in the playoffs this year. Help is needed NOW!

>>>>>BYNUM FOR MELO?

>>And what do you propose we do with Barnes and Artest?

Well there's a few things going on here. It's at least marginally possible, but not particularly likely.

1. What Denver has made clear they want for Melo are young players with very high (like All-Star) potential, expiring contracts, and high (potentially lottery) draft picks.

Bynum is a young player with upside (even All-Star upside), but he already makes a lot of money. Caracter and/or Ebanks might be sweeteners, but they're not at Derrick Favors level of potential. But the Lakers have only a couple million in expiring contracts, and their draft picks are borderline 2nd round. Basically, the Lakers don't have what Denver wants most.

2. Even if Denver wanted Bynum so bad that they'd give up on the other stuff they want to get him, they'd be less likely to want to trade him in-conference.

3. If the Lakers managed to pull off a trade, they would then have THREE players making > 18 million per for the next 3 seasons.

About the only way the Lakers could get Melo is if they could find a third team that wanted Bynum bad and was willing to give up more of the sort of pieces that Denver wants for him.

Oh, and Bynum being injured again pretty much guarantees that the Lakers won't get full value for him at least until he comes back and plays a few strong games.

BUT.

If the Lakers did manage to find a third team to pull off a Bynum for Melo swap, Barnes could be pulled into the deal in a very productive way for the Lakers.

Remember, the original New Jersey deal also had Chauncey Billups going to New Jersey - he was basically more salary dump by Denver.

So perhaps in a Denver-Lakers-??? deal, the Lakers could also part with Caracter &/or Ebanks (for young talent) + Barnes + Blake (for $) and get back Chauncey Billups. He might still have a few big shots left.

But basically, forget about Bynum for Melo.

What do the Lakers need most?

1. Defense from the PG position (and 3 point shooting wouldn't hurt).

2. Players who care and play hard every night.

3. More strength in the post (though only really against the Celtics - against most teams they're fine)

Use those as a starting point. I have no idea who the Lakers could get and what they'd have to give up to get it.

>>>Pistons may want to shed some salary.


Problem is, if they're taking on Blake for 2 years and Walton for 3, they're not shedding any salary. They'd be adding a bunch of it.

Tayshaun expires at the end of this season.

>>>A Billups-Kobe-Melo-L.O.-Drew lineup would be downright scary-good

hmmm. Pau for Melo.

That's a tiny bit more plausible than Bynum for Melo.

I doubt that Denver wants Pau - remember, they want a young stud who's still making rookie level salary. You don't rebuild with a player who's 30 and making almost 20 million. But I'm positive there are MANY 3rd teams who would love to have Pau.

Unlike with Bynum, there are no injury concerns, and Pau is a tested and proven post player, probably top 2 or 3 in the league in that sense.

What's more, Pau's salary is close to what Melo would make, so you're not adding a third 20-million guy.

Not sure it could be done, and it would definitely hurt the Lakers post scoring, but it's a more plausible trade than Bynum for Melo.

To be honest, I doubt Mitch would even consider trading any of Kobe, Pau, Bynum, or Odom.

WOW!What a shock! This guy is damaged goods. Has he ever played 1 full season without getting injured? NO! What the LAKERS see in this dude I have no idea. He will never be a top center in this league because he just either doesn't have the work ethic required to play injury-free or his nutrition is lacking and therefore he sets himself up for injuries easier. I would have traded him 2 years ago before he re-upped for 85 million.

Trade Odom, Brown and Artest for, Melo and CP3.

For our team to beat Boston in the Finals, we NEED to get tougher. Boston has figured out that all they need to do is push Pau around, and it totally throws off his game. There a very few players in this League that I would consider swapping Pau with, but I would have to say Melo is at the top of the list.

This dude is tough, hungry, young, athletic, and Kobe's "little bro." Plus, since Denver is already okay with dumping Billups, it's a win win. Fish plays great in the playoffs, but Billups' outside shot is much more reliable. Plus, we all know that Billups can nail clutch shots. I'm just not so sure that Denver would go for this one unless a third team(mentioned earlier) was involved.

Also, if it doesn't work out, then Melo and others could be traded to Orlando for D.Howard(sign and trade) in 2012.

MAKE THIS HAPPEN MITCH!!!!!

Hey, I dont particuliarly like Bynum being out, primarily because of his upside, and still being so young, but worried no, concerned slightly perhaps. Bottom line, Bynum played his tail off in the Championship with a serious knee injury, and w/out his presence, my Lakers come up short. Therefore, nobody can question his toughness, or say he is injury prone, only because he plays when it counts most, hurt, injured or not......

TNASH44

Hey, I dont particuliarly like Bynum being out, primarily because of his upside, and still being so young, but worried no, concerned slightly perhaps. Bottom line, Bynum played his tail off in the Championship with a serious knee injury, and w/out his presence, my Lakers come up short. Therefore, nobody can question his toughness, or say he is injury prone, only because he plays when it counts most, hurt, injured or not......

TNASH44

It appears the consensus is Gasol is soft, which was pretty evident from the start, Artest did the physical grind last year, trust that. However, if we GM'n, I think mello would be unstoppable on the post, but his defense, and rebounding is suspect, and he strikes me as the type, if he doesnt have the rock in his hand constantly, he wont find something else to be great at, like hussle, defense, and rebounding. I would give up shannon brown, rookies, and cash for chris paul, and that would solve everything, because what paul does is keep everyone happy, and thats high point guard iq. His ability to create, and get deep into the defense, will give kobe what he needs more than anything, single coverage, and if he gets that kinda look, he will challenge Karl Malone spot, alltime 2nd leading scorer in history, plus 3more rings.

It has always irritated me that kobe has to "dumbdown" his game over the years, instead of others raising their level of play?? Im willing to take couz, Stevie Nash, d suspect, yeah, but creativity, scoring ability, sensational!

Mr. Kupchak...

Let's make these trades...

Steve Blake, Ron Artest and Derek Caracter for Battier and Brooks

Shanon Brown for Arron Afflalo

Joe Smith for Kwame Brown

Luke Walton & Devin Ebanks for Trevor Ariza

This keeps our nucleus together and brings in younger players who are hungry, long, fast and that can defend. I don't think Barnes is going to be 100%. In Kwame we get a big who can clog the middle, knows the system.
Battier is a sharp guy who will pick up the triangle.
BTW...this works in Espn Trade Machine.

Lineup:

Fisher/Brooks
Bryant/Afflalo
Battier/Ariza
Gasol/Odom
Bynum/Brown/Ratliff

What, Bynum is not playing tonight!!! Has he played all year? The Lakers are no longer Showtime Basketball. Their simply basketball. Without Kobe, they don't even need a ball.

Why do we want Carmelo? He'd take forever to learn the triangle.
we need a defensive PG and a healthy Matt Barnes and Bynum and we'd be set.
Actually we're probably fine just as we are, if we can stay healthy.

PAU is the PROBLEM!!! He's passive, weak, lacks passion and heart, and plays like a small-forward. Last year we were able to cover-up his passive play with a strong and determined Kobe and inspiring play by Bynum, and tough play by Artest. Those guys have taken a step back for reasons we can understand (Kobe and Bynums surgeries, Artest fragile mental state) and Pau is scared to step up. He has taken two steps back this year and needs to be traded.

Pau and Artest for:
LaMARCUS ALDRIDGE
Deng and Noah
David West and Ariza
Carmello and Nene
Dwight Howard
Favvors, Vujacic, Lopez
Bogut, Maggette

Rather than talk about treades, I'ld rather point out that in big games this year (Heat and Celtics) Lakers I think had 10 asists in each game. The teamwork went out the window. When the Lakers play as a team and make it easier for each other then the offense is fine.

Sure the defense is often questionable. But before tearing the team apart or considering it, why not demand the Lakers play the way they know how? When Lakers have >22 assists they usually win

Pacers: Granger/hibbert
Lakers: artest/ walton/ ratliff

Granger good shooter and hibbert good defense and young and back up for byum knee problems

I apologize, but the point gaurd position has been a thorn in our side since Brian Shaw stopped running it really. We made it through with Ron Harper barley. I dont just blame that position anymore, because do you really see a traditional point gaurd and our Kobe co-existing. lol I think i hate to say it but Andrew should be traded or Artest and Luke. Lamar is playing better than he has since he went to rehab with the Clippers,Pau is a no brainer, the two rookies and Kobe. Everyone else is expendible.


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