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Kobe Bryant's differing leadership styles have had mixed results during the 2010-11 season

Judging by Kobe Bryant's body language and attitude, it would've been quite hard to tell the Lakers were struggling.

But obviously the media and fans watch the games. They notice the Lakers' season-long inconsistency hit another low note heading into the All-Star break with an embarrassing loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers. They see the Lakers (38-19) continuing to lack a firm hold on the Western Conference with 25 games remaining in the regular season. They trail the conference-leading San Antonio Spurs (46-10) by 8 1/2 games. The Lakers only hold a 1 1/2-game cushion over the Oklahoma City Thunder (35-19). And with Bryant's recent flu, on-court frustrations and media boycotts during this last week, it's fair to conclude his blood is boiling about the Lakers' state of play.

It would've been hard to tell, however, by strictly judging the persona he shared with reporters Friday at the J.W. Marriott in L.A. Live. Consider the following line of questioning from various reporters.

"Do you know why you guys are struggling right now?"

"Yup."

"Can you share it?"

"Nope."

"Is it fixable?"

"Yep. Absolutely."

"Going forward, do you have doubt you can get back to the level of playing?"

"None."

"Does some of the luster go away because of what's going on with the team??

Bryant let out a laugh and then said, "No."

"What is going on with the team?"

"We suck."

"When are you going to get better?"

"Tuesday."

The persistent questioning and vague answers have become quite customary between Bryant and the media, but what's interesting is the way he delivers the message. The video below reveals he appeared light-hearted Friday. Though he was willing to be more expansive about other topics, such as his six-minute Nike commercial, being a 14-time NBA All-Star and what Blake Griffin brings to the Clippers, his body language didn't change one bit when he went to short-answer mode on topics involving the state of the Lakers. It's another example of Bryant's continuously tinkering approach to his leadership style, one that's come with mixed results.

It's been an ongoing adjustment this season for Bryant on knowing where to pick his spots and what reaction is most appropriate. He was consistently even-keeled through the November, maintaining the same stoic and hungry demeanor after a win or loss. He even smiled after co-capitan Derek Fisher laced into the team's complacency after a mail-it-in win against Minnesota that brought their record to 8-0.

"I don't want to be too harsh," Bryant said at the time. "We've blown out good teams this year. We've blown out bad teams this year. We've blown everybody out. We had a tough game [against Minnesota], but we're OK."

But that all went out the window following the Lakers' Christmas Day loss to Miami, when he publicly criticized the team and vowed to "kick ... in practice," something he's rarely done all season. The fact the Lakers didn't show up for a marquee game illustrated in Bryant's mind that the team feels satisfied with two championship rings and that certain teammates aren't viewing the game as the most important thing in their lives. He continued that approach, albeit in a subtle manner, when the Lakers' struggles continued, capped off by a double-digit loss to Memphis. At that point, he encouraged the media to criticize the team, believing the "doom-and-gloom stories," as he put it, would spark a fire. His wish was granted, with the usual analysis along with reports on Ron Artest confronting Phil Jackson and others that revealed a few Lakers, including Pau Gasol, showed up late to a shootaround.

Bryant's leadership style hasn't just consisted of badgering his teammates, though his 10 technical fouls and on-court frustration shows that's reverted to that form from time to time. Bryant also provided a dose of encouragement to his teammates, responding with calls for better ball movement with the willingness to facilitate. Bryant epitomized that the best with Gasol, whom Bryant told to be more aggressive in the post. The speech helped spur Gasol to having his best statistical month of the season, averaging 21.6 points on 59.3% shooting so far in February.

"He's at a great point," Gasol said. "He's on top of the mountain. He's done pretty well for himself."

Will that translate into the Lakers performing better after the All-Star break? For now, Bryant will share his vague criticism with a smile, that is until a different approach becomes necessary.

"We don't have a choice," Bryant simply said when asked if the Lakers will improve. "Got to."

--Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina

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"It's another example of Bryant's continuously tinkering approach to his leadership style." MM

The subtle eloquance of the Saint...

You win.

Just take the cake.

Sonnybelfast

It's still the same crew that won the championships.

No doubt, they'll be able to get it up for a game of two, now and then.

But that's it folks...so don't get too excited.

A year older, more tired, more beat up, more arrogant.

Other teams are younger, more experienced, and hungrier.

It was a nice run, for sure.

But getting spanked by Cleveland!!!

Hurry...quick...better tell Stern that you need a new team,
post haste.

He'll fix ya right up. Besides, 90 mil and counting can work wonders.

Go Kings!
Go Giants!
Go Niners!
Go Manny, go!

Sonnybelfast

Leadership !! What leadership ?? Kobe is not a leader and for that fact, he is not a team player. Notice that when the Lakers are losing he starts passing the ball so blame is not on him. The Laker team is leaderless. That is what is missing. Forget Fisher. Just look at his play. Laker management is missing a BIG chance to pick up a prime player before the deadline. Let's see what happens this summer. The group they have now is not chanpionship material.

SonnyB, it is also hard to be in Kobe's situation at this time. He is the Superstar of the team, wants to carry the load of the Lakers offense however, he has been hit by injuries hand, fingers, knees and that mileage thing. He has surpassed MJ with all games played, somehow it affects the body from too much minutes played. He may have made some bad decisions in real life, can you imagine a kid who never been to College and have been in College to undergo all these accomplishments and changes. As I said, it is difficult to be in Kobe's situation, carrying the team on his shoulder whatever he does or say it's a lose-lose proposition because the team is losing. In totality we have to applaud the accomplishments of this young man. He is a rare player that comes once in every NBA generation, hate him or love him, he gave us all Laker fans the best entertainment with his game. Without him on the team, I doubt if the Lakers could have generated 5 Championships or 7 Finals in the last 15 years.

Consider this Edwin...

Given the history of the Lakers (and I know the history),
it's about even odds whether or not the Lakers would have won championships with or without the Saint, be they less or greater than five in the last 15-years.
He would have been great trade bait when I suggested it, years ago,
as you may recall. Who could you have gotten in such a trade?

But many (not all) in the Laker nation have this obsessive love affair
going-on with this twerp...and their 15-50 year old teenie-bopper
voices reign.

I can assure you one thing:

Kobe didn't gain more fans for the Lakers than he lost for the Lakers.

Given his 'tough' upbringing in the 'hood',
please spare me any spiel on his accomplishments.
He's a supremely gifted basketball player,
and because of that, and that alone, he's got money.
(He laughs off technical fouls..."I've got the money" hee hee pffst)

You can 'applaud the accomplishments of this young man' if you wish.
Beyond being a ball hog on a special treatment Hollywood ball club,
I see none. On the contrary.

Would you want this guy to mentor your son, or take your daughter out?

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

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SonnyB - Are you serious?
Kobe a ball-hog? Maybe in 2006 when he was hitting 81 point games...but can you blame him...at that time the Laker Team was...well...not "Noteworthy" to put it kindly. But that was back then. We're in the 2010-2011 season and I've seen him pass the ball more than I've EVER seen him pass the ball. Why? Because he has a team to pass it to...case in point-Paul Gasol. Also...many dimwits..such as yourself..seem to lose sight that Kobe's position on the team is a "Shooter". Not a Small Forward, Power Forward or point guard...but a Shooter. And what do Shooter's do? That's right...they Shoot the effin ball. He has some of the greatest accomplishments in all of the NBA History and you act as if they are nothing. Your flawed my friend...please look in the mirror.

Mark Medina I know you are writing for the base and so I read what you write with a grain of salt. But sometimes you lose all journalistic integrity. And this is one of these times. Kobe has shown different leadership styles? Come on man? If Kobe was an effective leader then we wouldn't have an over the hill 35 year old at the starting point guard position. Those one word answers are neither funny or the actions of a leader. A true leader would acept the blame and promised to try and fix things. Earlier in the season after another blow out loss, Kobe promised to lay into his team. i was all for that but didn't kobe changed his mind. You cited the time when he went to gasol telling him to be more agressive. You can debit leadership on the ledger. But why didn't he go to other key players like UPS etc that is real leadership. But i see one leadership style and that is leading by example. Kobe greatness is undeniable but he is not a good leader.

Jerry West interview on the Jim Rome show had Jerry saying alot of pc stuff, but he mentioned more than once that the Lakers had holes

Holes?

Holy quacamole, you think? lol

Sonnybelfast,

I see where you are terribly1000000x upset with Kobe, it's the 'Adultery' thing that you constantly brought up. The guy has made a mistake in his married life and has learned since then and was forgiven by his wife. Can you not forgive him for that?

As the Bible said, "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE". You may cast yours on Kobe, belfast.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

SonnyB - Are you serious?
Kobe a ball-hog? Maybe in 2006 when he was hitting 81 point games...but can you blame him...at that time the Laker Team was...well...not "Noteworthy" to put it kindly. But that was back then. We're in the 2010-2011 season and I've seen him pass the ball more than I've EVER seen him pass the ball. Why? Because he has a team to pass it to...case in point-Paul Gasol. Also...many dimwits..such as yourself..seem to lose sight that Kobe's position on the team is a "Shooter". Not a Small Forward, Power Forward or point guard...but a Shooter. And what do Shooter's do? That's right...they Shoot the effin ball. He has some of the greatest accomplishments in all of the NBA History and you act as if they are nothing. Your flawed my friend...please look in the mirror.

Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 19, 2011 at 01:45 AM

Maybe I am flawed.

Shish!

Did I actually make that comment and post it to myself?

Don't think so...try again.

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

I don't like to pat myself on the back but hell yeah i will because unlike the media I pointed out things that they didn't. When LA started out 8-0 everyone was happy except me. i was not happy because the Lakers were not playing the right way. They were allowing each of these teams to score over 105 ppg. I pointed this out on these blogs and i was criticised. Then i noticed another trend with these lakers when the suns and denver beat them. It was confirmed when indiana beat them that if a team stands up to the lakers and can score the lakers will fold tent. The things I pointed out from the beginning of the season is now being played out in the national media. I like most people play recreational basketball. And basketball is basketball. On top of that unlike most media and players I am intelligent. Now can the lakers win the ring again yes with a caveat. If kobe becomes the faciluitator and pick his spots the lakers will prevail. I said that months ago and lately hall of famer barkley and kenny smith both said that kobe must become a facilitator.

But there is no indication that kobe will change and the lakers will falter or sink this year. Kobe still believes he must compete with dwade, lbj and durant in scoring. Heck even paul pierce goaded him into a scoring contest in the first meeting this season. That's a bad idea. pierce is shoting 50+% from the field whereas kobe can barely make 45%. Pierece cumulatuive +/- is 427 while kobe is 217. Hell even kobe's teammates like in order gasol, lo, artest and fisher all have a higher +/- than the black mamba. What this will suggest that kobe is not making his teammates better. This must change. kobe must set the table for his teammates.

island priest, you are indeed intelligent. way to go compare paula pierce to kobe.

i'm pretty sure paula pierce will someday surpass all the accomplishments kobe had. paula pierce can! paula can! paula can! paula pierce is greater than kobe. kobe is nothing compared to paula pierce,

heck! as island priest say, "Pierece cumulatuive +/- is 427 while kobe is 217" WHATTTT???? did you see that?! paula pierce is way better than kobe. thats 427 to 217!!!! its not even close!!!! now, thats the TRUTH!

lol!!!

Did I actually make that comment and post it to myself? Don't think so...try again. Go Kings! Sonnybelfast Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 19, 2011 at 04:29 AM
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WTH? See Sonny I told you it's that LakerHolic side of you trying to get out. LOL! How you doing my brother? Naw I don't think anybody was silly enough to think you posted that but...One day Sonny, one I day can see you posting things of that ilk as that Lakerholic side of you grows and Grows!!! LOL! You and your family be well my brother!


@JovBatz44, Good morning my fellow LakerHolic I see you are up bright and early fighting the good fght for...Truth, Justice and The Laker Way!!!! Yes!! Keep on keeping on my brother!!!
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@TrollMan, Holes? Holes? We aint got no stinking Holes! Lol! Good morning to you sir! Carry on!
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The group they have now is not chanpionship material.
Posted by: BEDO | February 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Uhhhh...NEWS FLASH!... the group they have now won the last two championships.

WTH? See Sonny I told you it's that LakerHolic side of you trying to get out. LOL! How you doing my brother? Naw I don't think anybody was silly enough to think you posted that but...One day Sonny, one I day can see you posting things of that ilk as that Lakerholic side of you grows and Grows!!! LOL! You and your family be well my brother!


Posted by: mamba24 | February 19, 2011 at 06:23 AM

Admittedly, that is truly funny Larry. You're quick on your feet, as always.
Post of the day!

But hey, honestly,
don't you just love it when people invoke passages from the Bible
to defend your boy?

(One thing I like about this board; I don't even have to go to church
to get my religion fix)

And he's probably right...
Because like I said on a prior occasion,
I'm sure that the Saint's woman has not only forgiven him,
but has probably forgotten all about it.

(Right girls?)

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

mamba24, mi amigo, I think it's time to make Sonnybelfast an "Honorary Lakerholic". Dude's on here more often than most of the regulars. And though he pretends to be a troll, he obviously has a deep-seated yearning to be one of us. I say Bandwagon him. It's time.

Laker Amigos...LET'S RIDE!!!

I had a horrible nightmare. Lamar was traded for Steve Nash and it made absolutely no sense. I was fuming in my dream. I was glad to wake up, but I guess Lakers are on my mind... Maybe we'll see a trade this weekend? Sigh, come home Ariza...

mamba24, mi amigo, I think it's time to make Sonnybelfast an "Honorary Lakerholic". Dude's on here more often than most of the regulars. And though he pretends to be a troll, he obviously has a deep-seated yearning to be one of us. I say Bandwagon him. It's time.

Laker Amigos...LET'S RIDE!!!

Posted by: CornerJ | February 19, 2011 at 07:26 AM

Sorry gentlemen.

Go Sacramento Kings of Basketball!

Sonnybelfast

I had a horrible nightmare. Lamar was traded for Steve Nash and it made absolutely no sense. I was fuming in my dream. I was glad to wake up, but I guess Lakers are on my mind... Maybe we'll see a trade this weekend? Sigh, come home Ariza... Posted by: Andy L | February 19, 2011 at 07:33 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!!! THE HORROR!! Thank God you woke up!!! That would be enough to traumatize some for life!! Now run and get a glass of Dr. Fatty's Lakerholic tonic and rid yourself of those nasty toxis!!! Steve Nash indeed!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IT'S TIME!! SONNY BELFAST HONORARY LAKERHOLIC - BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNER J - OWNER - I think it's time to make Sonnybelfast an "Honorary Lakerholic".
Dude's on here more often than most of the regulars. And though he pretends to be a troll, he obviously has a deep-seated yearning to be one of us. I say Bandwagon him. It's time.
(02) MAMB24 - DRIVER - Yes, Yes! IT'S TIME ALL ABOARD!!!
(03) EDWIN GUECO - RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) FAN OF THE MAMBA - RIDING SHOTGUN2 - IT'S TIME!!

The group they have now is not chanpionship material. Posted by: BEDO | February 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM
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Uhhhh...NEWS FLASH!... the group they have now won the last two championships. Posted by: CornerJ | February 19, 2011 at 07:22 AM
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!! THE SWAGGER!!! THE SWAGGER!!!

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Tough week for us Laker fans, but we still have hope and there is always Tuesday! LOL.

Regarding Sonny, he is growing on me. Sonny is very bright and I'm beginning to appreciate his humor. Come on Sonny, do like Kobe's wife did and forgive him. Join us in this bizarro Laker Championship year. Some people like the Merry go round, others prefer the thrill of the roller coaster. Each of us can ask ourselves, which do we prefer?

You're in trouble now...

"He, tho shall he open a hand to thee who speaketh unholy truths
of our Saint the Koab almighty, shall too, reapeth the wrath to youth
from thy brethren and cistern'

Teniente 4, Verse 3

Even I am helpless to defend you on this one.

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

OMGawd! Invoking the Tiente clause....LOL. That's good.

"Would you want this guy to mentor your son, take your daughter out?"

Didn't know the Lakers were in the child care business.

Would you want any NBA player mentoring your kid?

Let's review the job description. Play basketball, win games.

Politicians worry about the style points.

You're in trouble now... "He, tho shall he open a hand to thee who speaketh unholy truths f our Saint the Koab almighty, shall too, reapeth the wrath to youth from thy brethren and cistern' Teniente 4, Verse 3 Even I am helpless to defend you on this one. Go Kings! Sonnybelfast Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 19, 2011 at 08:41 AM
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SWEET JESUS!!! WHAT MANNER OF MADNESS IS THIS???? Sonny listen to me, listen to me very closely. Being a LakerHolic is not all that bad. Really!! Now take deep breaths and relax. What is happening is that Lakerholic side of you is about to dominate and you will be Reborn in the Kingdom of LakerHolics. You will see the world thru entirely new eyes. The more you resist the longer it will take you to enter the LakerHolic Kingdom sir!!!!! LOL! Besides...RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOU!!!

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IT'S TIME!! SONNY BELFAST HONORARY LAKERHOLIC - BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNER J - OWNER - I think it's time to make Sonnybelfast an "Honorary Lakerholic".
Dude's on here more often than most of the regulars. And though he pretends to be a troll, he obviously has a deep-seated yearning to be one of us. I say Bandwagon him. It's time.
(02) MAMB24 - DRIVER - Yes, Yes! IT'S TIME ALL ABOARD!!!
(03) EDWIN GUECO - RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) FAN OF THE MAMBA - RIDING SHOTGUN2 - IT'S TIME!!
(05) JOHNNYV - Regarding Sonny, he is growing on me. Sonny is very bright and I'm beginning to appreciate his humor. Come on Sonny, do like Kobe's wife did and forgive him. Join us in this bizarro Laker Championship year. Some people like the Merry go round, others prefer the thrill of the roller coaster. Each of us can ask ourselves, which do we prefer?

island priest,

you wrote: If Kobe was an effective leader then we wouldn't have an over the hill 35 year old at the starting point guard position. Those one word answers are neither funny or the actions of a leader. A true leader would acept the blame and promised to try and fix things. Earlier in the season after another blow out loss, Kobe promised to lay into his team. i was all for that but didn't kobe changed his mind. You cited the time when he went to gasol telling him to be more agressive. You can debit leadership on the ledger. But why didn't he go to other key players like UPS etc that is real leadership. But i see one leadership style and that is leading by example. Kobe greatness is undeniable but he is not a good leader.

my response: fascinating. Can we walk through this?

re: a 35 yr. old starting pg & leadership. Can you think of anyone else who
could take an old pg and make him a champion?

re: accepting blame. ok ... so let's go back a few years. Should Kobe accept
the blame for not winning a championship with Smush & Kwame on the
team? if the answer is 'no', then what is the principle by which you make
your determination for what blame he should accept and what blame he
shouldn't?

re: Kobe going to the other members of the Lakers. Two things.

1. You don't know that he has *NOT* spoken to the other players. You
just know that it was mentioned, in the media, that he spoke to Pau.

2. Pau is the *MOST* critical player, after Kobe, on the Lakers. The Lakers
have been to 3 finals on the strength of Kobe & Pau's play. W/o both of
them playing at a high level, the Lakers have no chance at winning.

If these things are so obvious to me, with my small amount of basketball
knowledge, certainly they should be obvious to you. a recreational player.

back to Kobe being a good leader. hmmm .... Ok. Please find me someone
else in the NBA who has been able to accomplish the following:

1. Been to the NBA finals 3 years in a row.
2. Won finals MVP 2 years in a row.
3. Shown loyalty to his teammates despite their poor play.
4. Has refused to throw his teammates under the bus.
5. Has refused to leave or ask for a trade.
6. Has played with multiple fractures to his hands.
7. Has played with torn cartilage in his knee.
8. Has had significant changes made to the team for 3 years in a row and
continued to be successful.

Would you want any NBA player mentoring your kid? Let's review the job description. Play basketball, win games. Politicians worry about the style points. Posted by: VMan | February 19, 2011 at 08:46 AM
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LMAO!!!! And Yes, Yes I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! Carry On!!

"Would you want this guy to mentor your son, take your daughter out?"

Didn't know the Lakers were in the child care business.

Would you want any NBA player mentoring your kid?

Let's review the job description. Play basketball, win games.

Politicians worry about the style points.

Posted by: VMan | February 19, 2011 at 08:46 AM

True.

But I'd pick D. Wade, D. Fish, Dee Dee Meyer, or even De-Marcus
over his holiness any day of the year...wouldn't you?

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Besides, it's the Kings who are in the child-care business at the moment.

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Good Morning JohnnyV, how you be this morning sir? Always good to see a Post from one of my favorite Lakerholics. Yes I see I am not the only one that can feel Sonny letting loose of the Darkside and coming into the Light of Lakers Nation! Why before you know it Sonny will even accept the Saint as his own personal Patron Saint! LOL!

@HOBBITMAGE, Yes I have to say it sir...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

Mamba 24, Corner, and V-Man,

It's probably a good thing I'm heading out to Burma again in only a few hours.
I won't be around to witness it; The Horror, The Horror, The Horror!
It could feel like an apocalypse now.

Having already invoked the Teniente clause,
your crew is liable to crucify you, especially you Larry.
You may have to lay down verse 69, in de-tense of yourselves.

Honestly, I couldn't blame them...good luck!

Bleeding Purple and Black forever...

Sonnybelfast

hobbitmage: You have it the other way around the 35 year old made KObe a champion. Do you remember when Kobe waas scoring 81 points in games and outscoring the Mavs by himself. He still couldn't win a playoff series. Now Kobe is still scoring but without Fisher's leadership in involving the other guys and other motivational speeches Kobe would still be a 3 ring wonder. Getting Pau to be more agressive is fine but you need everybody and KObe fails to realise that in his 15th year.

hobbitmage: You have it the other way around the 35 year old made KObe a champion. Do you remember when Kobe waas scoring 81 points in games and outscoring the Mavs by himself. He still couldn't win a playoff series. Now Kobe is still scoring but without Fisher's leadership in involving the other guys and other motivational speeches Kobe would still be a 3 ring wonder. Getting Pau to be more agressive is fine but you need everybody and KObe fails to realise that in his 15th year.

Getting to the finals 3 times might be great in your eyes as some sort of accomplishment in your eyes but not mine. It's winning when you get there that's important. How many times did the Buffalo Bills Jim Kelly got to the Super Bowl. 4 times. He didn't win any. The first time Kobe got to the finals in the shaq era he was massacred in game 6 i think 131 to 92. So I discount that. But I praise him for being a 5 time and back to back champion.

Sonny B, I just woke up & to add what Mamba24 & JovBatz have recanted.....
REPENT, YOU SINNER. lol!

Tell me how many among all NBA players who have not indulged in extra marital affairs, perhaps Larry Bird, well we don't really know because there was no news about his personal life so let's assume it as clean. How about the others? I don't have to enumerate and re-open their pandorra's boxes. Well, Kobe was caught because there was no meeting of minds towards his wild adventure. His mind was controlled by his libido. As a result, Kobe paid dearly monetarily w/ a tainted persona. I think JovBatz44 was right...why can't we not move on from that extra marital affairs the way we moved on others? Wilt was even proud with his claim of sleeping w/ 1001 women, yet he did not suffer that kind of excruciating blame.

Since you are there in Thailand, perhaps you research on the Metta (loving kindness), karuna (compassion), mudita (sympathetic joy) and upekka (equanimity). They are the principle of forgiveness from the Buddhist's point of view. "Buddhism questions the reality of the passions that make forgiveness necessary as well as the reality of the objects of those passions." 'If we haven’t forgiven, we keep creating an identity around our pain, and that is what is reborn. That is what suffers.' I quote.

Having already invoked the Teniente clause, your crew is liable to crucify you, especially you Larry. You may have to lay down verse 69, in de-tense of yourselves.Posted by: Sonnybelfast | February 19, 2011 at 09:07 AM
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LMAO!!! Yes I may well indeed but as a wise man said...ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE! Lol! You be careful over there brother and take care of yourself, i'll haold your seat on the bandwagon for you! LOL!

Edwin,

What IS this obssession with adultery this morning?
For some reason, everyone keeps talking
about Kobe's extra-marital affair
with the skank from Colorado.

They have a lot of pet stores here in Chiang Mai which sell almost
everything except Duck food, and there's a reason for that.

If I even thought too hard about cheating on my lady,
the ducks would be quacking in joy come sun up;
it'd be like their Thanksgiving Day, except it'd be prime rib,
and lots of it.

Except in response to comments others have made,
I seldom broach the topic of adultery on this blog anymore.
(No need to. There are too many other things to despise about your Saint)
But bring it up...and it's fair game...it will always be relevant.
But, I agree, the past is the past,
and I'm more than willing not to hear that he cheated on his spouse again.

Can't stand religious zealotry of any flavor...
(Except of course, the book of Teniente)
but as far as religions go...
Buddhists disturb me least.
You made some nice references though.

Our western culture could learn a lot from
the Buddhist way of thinking and living...
and I'm not referencing the phonies on Hollywood Blvd,
and the other skunks running around up north.

I bet Laker fans are anxious to see how they come out of the gate
after the break. Try not to be too disappointed.
I'm off for a nap...then to Burma...see ya'll in a few days.

Go Kings!

Sonnybelfast

Let's all get this straight :

Magic Johnson was a leader.

Kobe Bryant is NOT a leader.

Any questions?


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