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Jerry West clarifies comments about the Lakers' defense and critiques the team's offense

Hearing his critical comments about the Lakers' defense and age repeated to the team at practice and games, dissected on talk radio and analyzed by various outlets, including this one, was a situation that Lakers Hall of Famer Jerry West described as "laughable" and just part of an "endless soap opera."

So what caused such a commotion?

Oh, nothing, other than appearing three weeks ago at the annual Orange County Automobile Dealers Assn. luncheon, as reported by the Orange County Register, and giving his take on various Lakers topics. The talk included concerns about the team's longevity: "I don't think the Lakers will be good for much longer. You can keep a car running for a long time by changing the tires, etc. You can't change a player's tires." It had a scathing critique of the Lakers' defense: "If there's a loose ball now, how often do they get it? The reason you 'can't play defense' is because you can't!" And it expressed more optimism about an arch rival's championship chances. "I think Boston is a very dangerous team. I would not want to play them every other night."

Fresh off the Lakers' 92-86 victory Thursday over the Celtics, West, speaking Friday at a promotional event in Malibu in connection with his role as executive director of the Northern Trust Open, said the public took his comments too much at face value.

"You can't even have an opinion anymore," West said. "Everyone has an opinion. I was joking."

The Lakers (37-16) enter Friday's game in New York (26-25) winning their first three games of a seven-game trip, which West said proved that getting away from the local media scrutiny eased the pressure on the team. But he still didn't hold back on providing comments that will likely again gain traction, though he acknowledged the Lakers have made progress in fixing the problems described below.

"To a lesser degree, I think the Lakers biggest problem defensively has been their offense," West said. "If they don't run patiently with their offense. They have two big guys, and when they get down in their set, they're very good. But if they turn the ball over and have quick shots, they can't get back. You have to give the other teams credit. All coaches do the same thing. Some have better talent. The Lakers have great talent, and they should be favored to win. But as I say, they're not going to win if they don't run their offense correctly, which will lead to bad defense."

That was just one of many things West enthusiastically addressed. The topics were wide-ranging, including the upcoming Northern Trust Open that will take place Feb. 14 -20 at Riviera Country Club and has confirmed 21 of the 30 top money winners, including Phil Mickelson. He also talked about the Lakers' plans to unveil a statue in his honor outside Staples Center on Feb. 17, his belief that Lamar Odom was snubbed from the All-Star game and, of course, the state of the Lakers.

With the Lakers defeating Boston on Thursday, a game West described as a "great win," he said he's more optimistic about their championship chances -- but that comes with qualifiers.

He argued that the great unknown involves how healthy the players can stay for the duration of the season. While he said that "losing Kobe Bryant or Pau Gasol would destroy this team" and that the Lakers in that case would "become a common team," he said the same would be true if Miami lost LeBron James or Dwyane Wade ("they would not be a threat to win a championship") or if the Celtics were without Kevin Garnett or Paul Pierce.

And getting a season split on the Celtics didn't ease West's worry about the Lakers' arch rival one bit. 

"I would not want to play Boston in a seven-game series, regardless of who it's going to be," he said. "There's a long way to go."

-- Mark Medina
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In case you haven't noticed the cavs just LOST 26 straight games and broke the all time nba record.

Anybody still want byron scott to succeed phil??

sup yellofever, I'm not sure it's Byron's fault. The team have nobody, zip, nada. Varejao and Mo are out. Jamison is their current "star". Besides, I smell LBJ, his dad Stern and the refs all over this thing...


>>>In case you haven't noticed the cavs just LOST 26 straight games and broke
>>>the all time nba record.

In case YOU didn't notice, the Cavs two best players - Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao aren't all that great AND have been missing for most of the season.

When you have mediocre players and the best two of them are out, even Phil couldn't coach them to a championship.


@MM... Great interview with Jerry West. The key point he made was that the major problem with the Lakers defense in his opinion is not the lack of effort and hustle by their players on defense but more their lack of efficient execution on offense, which often led to fast breaks and transition offense by the other team before the Lakers big men could get back and set up their defense.
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I have long asserted that, with their size advantage, transition defense was the Lakers Achilles heel, along with failing to protect the paint and the rim when center Andrew Bynum is not in the game. Good to see Jerry West speak up and clearly state that this it’s been poor offense in the form of bad shots, poor movement, and turnovers that have been the cause of the Lakers defensive problems
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TOM

Good on you Jerry, speak, have an opinion, your part of the 1% percenters who've changed the game. Say what you say. Doesn't change your greatness. We're lucky to live in a place where we can have an opinion. Should be a right, not a privilege, to speak your mind.

Shout out to the Revolutionaries in Egypt. Keep going, the power structure afraid of your power. Democracy starts with a Revolution!!!


@KOBEMVP888... Thanks for the props. In a way, I was reluctant to make any negative comments about Coach Sloan because I do truly admire and respect him both as a great player and coach but it was a shame to see his storied career end on this note and I felt that it was an opportunity to point out the great difference between how he and Phil handle superstars.
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@MM.... Following up my earlier post about Jerry West’s clarification of his comments, I find it very interesting to see the difference between how the Lakers and the Celtics, both older and bigger teams, deal with the big threat of transition defense since every team tries to run against them.
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The Celtics strategy is to give up attacking the offensive boards and have everybody run back and setup in a half court defense while the Lakers Triangle Offense, which combined with shooting a high percentage is why the Celtics are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league despite their size and having the league’s best rebounding guard in Rajon Rondo.
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The Lakers on the other hand run the Triangle Offense, which when properly run, provides them with players in position to attack the offensive glass as well as to defend against transition offense. That’s why the Lakers are among the league leaders in overall as well as offensive rebounding. That’s why in my opinion, they have a definite advantage on the boards against the Celtics.
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TOM

I'm sorry I've never liked Scott as a coach, loved him as a player, when his New Orleans team got beat by like 50 in a playoff game AT HOME, let me repeat that AT HOME!!! I knew he was not going to ever be that good of a coach, as much as the players quit that day, as a coach you can't have your team lose by 50 at home DURING THE PLAYOFFS, that's just inexcusable.

And I think this CAVS gig, maginfies Scotts issues as a coach, he can't motivate anybody. So yes, I'm glad he will not be coaching the Lakers


@MM.... This is what happens when you start a post at work, get interrupted, and then come back. Let me repost this so you understand what I really meant. Thanks.
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Following up my earlier post about Jerry West’s clarification of his comments, I find it very interesting to see the difference between how the Lakers and the Celtics, both older and bigger teams, deal with the big threat of transition defense since every team tries to run against them.
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The Celtics strategy is to give up attacking the offensive boards and have everybody run back and setup in a half court defense, which combined with shooting a high percentage is why the Celtics are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league despite their size and having the league’s best rebounding guard in Rajon Rondo.
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The Lakers on the other hand run the Triangle Offense, which when properly run, provides them with players in position to attack the offensive glass as well as to defend against transition offense. That’s why the Lakers are among the league leaders in overall as well as offensive rebounding. That’s why in my opinion, they have a definite advantage on the boards against the Celtics.
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TOM

Sean,

you wrote: it's obvious Westerners get finesse confused with 'soft' for sure, since they don't really understand what the word truly means, they try to label it something else.

my response: I am a westerner. I am not confused about this in the slightest.
in 2008 Pau played soft which is one of the reasons why KG had a better
finals. in 2009 Pau did not play soft. We won. In 2008 & 2009 Pau showed
great finesse.

Finesse is the skill with which you play. Footwork. Body movement to
create shots.

Soft is the emotion with which you play. Do you let somebody knock you out
of position? Does contact cause you to miss your shot? Do you refuse to
go after the ball because you'll get hit?

West is still afraid of the Celtics until now ...

Magicphil and LTLF,

Sup! Oh yeah I'm aware... Crybaby mo mo is still grieving lecrabs loss.. Varejao has been partying naked in the streets of brazil getting ready for carnival... they got anthony parker n jamario moon as their wingman (HAHA) and anytime antwaaan jamison is the bedrock of the franchise you know ur in BIG trouble.

But 26 straight games? That's almost 60 calendar days!! If ur goin that long without a W at some point you have to start lookin at your coach... But he's got a golden opportunity this sunday at home vs washington so he'll be in my prayers!!



@HOBBITMAGE... Exactly! You obviously understand the difference between finesse and soft. Finesse players as well as power players can play soft at times, often due to their matchups. While there was a play here or there where Pau played soft, over he had an outstanding game and was a big reason why the Lakers won. He also played excellent defense on KG, who last night in my opinion was a power player who played soft. Or to describe last night’s effort by Pau against KG: Last night was a case of an aggressive finesse player outplaying a soft power player.
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TOM

Soft is the emotion with which you play. Do you let somebody knock you out
of position? Does contact cause you to miss your shot? Do you refuse to
go after the ball because you'll get hit?

Posted by: hobbitmage | February 11, 2011 at 02:02 PM

In the context of what I was saying, you definitely proved to yourself what it means. That doesn't mean you disproved my thoughts.

Finesse, in context, means fluid, flowing, straight-lined, beautiful.

Hobbitimage, there's definitely a misnomer between finesse and 'soft', the synonyms for finesse lend itself to that misnomer.

It's great you know the difference between finesse and soft, for you are in the minority, and the media does make a habit of confusing people about these type of nuances in the english language.

GPSWE!!!!!!!!!

Greatest

Practice

Season

Win

Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBA4ever – I strongly disagree with your sentiments about DWill.
Posted by: LRob | February 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Why? To have a legend that was as consistent as he was and accomplish what he has accomplished and have 99% of the team love him and 99% of past players praise him be forced out by one disgruntled player who has accomplished what in his young career? I have to question that player and not the coach. It is a sad day for the association not because we lost Sloan, but more importantly we lost the respect of the coach. So it’s Sloan and not Dwill? From what I read, yea I lost some respect for him.

So while I mourn the departure of Jerry Sloan, I still recognize that his time had come and gone.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | February 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Why? Who is going to be better? Who’s going to garner that kind of respect? Some young no name no experience coach? This isn’t LA, NY, Chicago, or Miami. This is Utah! Sloan was the franchise. It was almost like a college atmosphere, you needed to be recruited to come here and trust that it was the best decision for your development and career even though you didn’t desire to live in Utah. I can get more into this but do not have the time now. I will wait for both of your response and then elaborate why I disagree with both of you. I’m glad I can bring you two together

yes, Laker Tom in large part I agree ...... but not entirely. There are many times when the defense is set, that the Lakers fail to make the hustle plays or to properly execute with defensive rotations. Note 4 trys in 22 seconds for San Antonio in the recent loss. Rebounding is part of defense. That loss was from lack of fundamental execution and hustle when it mattered most. OK, I get it - it is hard to rise up every night when you are two time champions - but the ability to focus for 22 seconds - or the lack of focus at winning time - speaks volumes. Once is an isolated situation - but failure to execute on defense with hustle and fundamentals has been a theme this season.

Certainly defense is comprised of many factors - the right mix of size and speed, individual ability and desire to stop one's man - tempered with the willingness to rotate and play help defense, - then add strategy, schemes and general hustle.

While the Lakers are not the best defensive team in the league, I believe they can be one of the best. If they focus on inside out basketball on offense - that will go a ways in solving some of their defensive woes. However, in the end - I wish they would aim to dominate defensively. Instead, I feel on most nights they do enough to get by on defense and prefer to win on the backs of their offensive talent. This mindset has bit them in the butts on several occasions this year.

Maybe I just feel like an opportunity has been missed. I felt that this core group could have put together a special season - much like the dominant Bulls did with Jordan. Maybe regular season dominance isn't the general answer to winning the title - but I disagree with those who say the regular season doesn't matter and I wonder how much harder it is to go out and play hard to win and execute than to run up and down without focus. Frankly, if the Laker 6 starters played with focus every night, they wouldn't play much in most 4th quarters.

And Boston does it - they bring it most nights and on most plays. And they took it right to the wire last year and they'll be back there this year as well.

On another note:

After the Boston game, I am still left with the feeling that this team is missing something. Maybe it is a full recovery for Matt Barnes by playoff time. His energy and aggressive play is sorely missed in my opinion. However, I also remain concerned that the lack of a real consistent outside shooting threat, some speed and quickness on the wings and another big who can play real minutes in a backup role leave the Lakers with a void, come a seven game series with Boston.

I didn't flinch at the Bynum rumors - no way do I move him. I'll take the risk of injury in exchange for his future potential. Plus, he is a significant part of the culture of this team - they are big and long and Kobe.

However, something before Feb 24 would help. I worry that Boston is so big (wide) and deep inside when healthy - not so much from a talent match up perspective, but more from a taking up space and depth perspective that could neutralize the Laker inside advantage. If healthy Boston would go 3 deep (Perkins, Shaq, J O'Neil) at center, with Garnett and Big Baby at the 4. That is a lot of space in both directions and a lot of pounding over 48 minutes - times - potentially seven games. The Laker answer is Theo Ratcliff, Derek Character and Joe Smith?

I can also see teams packing it in come playoff time - especially Boston - leaving little room for our bigs to move. Will Artest and Fisher be able to make open shots? I know Fish has somehow become a different shooter year after year come playoff time, but its a scary prospect to me to depend on guys who shoot low percentages all season to all of a sudden step up. At least one of them will need to consistently hit open shots in the playoffs.

And the Lakers have become a slow team. While I liked the informal exchange of Artest for Ariza due to Artest's strength and toughness - we miss Trevor in terms of game changing plays and tempo. I would almost like to see Ebanks get more run time with the hopes that his athleticism might give us 5 minutes per game of tempo change and defense come playoff time. Granted he currently lacks experience - but there is only one way to get it. While I like Luke on the team, he is only effective at all against Boston if the tempo is slow and deliberate. If he gets isolated covering Pierce or if Rondo, Robinson and Allen are playing uptempo Luke seems lost and overmatched. Yes a healthy Barnes would address this - but will he be healthy enough this season?

Boston made the move last year to improve their team - House for Robinson. I think we should still consider the same. Not sure what can be done with all the cap limitations and undesirable player salaries we have on board - but maybe Mitch can come up with something.

I'm not saying we do this trade or that it could even happen - (just an example), but Stephen Jackson/ Kwame Brown for Ron Artest/ Derek Character would work.

Regards,

DKWSFO

No Statue for Benedict Logo,


BandWagon!!!

>>>Westerners get finesse confused with 'soft' for sure,


Oh, I see now. So Pau finessed his way into a lot of bricked layups at times in the past and finessed his way out of KG's way in the 2008 playoffs so that KG could have layup drills.

So his monicker (at the time) should have been Pau Gafinesse.


@NBA4EVER... As I said earlier to 888, I have nothing but respect and admiration for Jerry Sloan and I was primarily pointing out how differently Phil Jackson handles today’s superstars versus how Jerry handled them. Frankly, I think you are right about Utah and the atmosphere and the probability that they will have a very difficult time remaining relevant in today’s NBA without Jerry Sloan’s stabilizing and respected presence. I predict Utah is going to become irrelevant.
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Jerry Sloan leaving is the second sign of the franchise’s struggling, the first being the passing of their longtime owner Larry Miller and the ascension of his son Greg Miller. Hopefully, the Lakers’ ownership transition from Jerry Buss to son Jim will have a more positive impact on the franchise. The next shoe to drop will obviously be star point guard Deron Williams opting for free agency.
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TOM

>>>Westerners get finesse confused with 'soft' for sure,


Oh, I see now. So Pau finessed his way into a lot of bricked layups at times in the past and finessed his way out of KG's way in the 2008 playoffs so that KG could have layup drills.

So his monicker (at the time) should have been Pau Gafinesse.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | February 11, 2011 at 02:45 PM

@Hobbitimage- With the above statement being a primary example. Throw the word finesse out into the blogosphere, parks, local watering hole, it's implied to be a code word for 'soft'. Generally, it's known that the two words are unlike another, yet juxtapose against one another, somehow there's confusion, what a shoke. With that, I rest my case Hobbit.

What a shoke

re:correction

shock

@KOBEMVP888... Thanks for the props. In a way, I was reluctant to make any negative comments about Coach Sloan because I do truly admire and respect him both as a great player and coach but it was a shame to see his storied career end on this note and I felt that it was an opportunity to point out the great difference between how he and Phil handle superstars.

Posted by: LakerTom | February 11, 2011 at 01:49 PM

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Frankly, it perplexes me that in a forum filled with Lakers fans, people are unwilling to speak the truth about this very good coach who falls short of legendary status. Think about how Phil Jackson's playing days and Jerry Sloan's playing days translated into their successes and failures as head coaches. Phil Jackson went to 3 NBA Finals with the Knicks, all against the Lakers, winning twice. In 1970, he was injured, so the legendary Red Holzman gave him a clipboard and made him an assistant coach because his saw the coaching potential in his young player. Jerry Sloan's mentor was Dick Motta, a very good coach in his own right, but certainly not on the level of Red Holzman.

Meanwhile, here is Jerry Sloan's playoff record just against the Lakers as a player with the Bulls:

1968: L (4-1: Western Conference semi-finals)
1971: L (4-3: Western Conference semi-finals)
1972 L (4-0: Western Conference semi-finals)
1973: L (4-3: Western Conference semi-finals)

Much like West and Baylor had the misfortune of always running into the Celtics in the NBA Finals, Sloan's Bulls met a similar fate by having to run into the Lakers. No knock on him, but where Phil Jackson tasted the champagne that flows with winning an NBA championship, Jerry Sloan did not have a similar experience to draw from as a player. Perhaps Coach Eleven Rings took some appreciation of that championship mentality from his experiences winning them, where Jerry Sloan could never empathize with that. There's a certain intangible know-how they cannot be explained, the best recent example I can think of was when it manifested itself at the end of Game 4 in the 2009 NBA Finals when Dwight missed those two free throws after Kobe took him down and them D-Fish buried the game tying three. And remember D-Fish's shot that propelled the Jazz to the WCF in 2007? Did he learn that from Jerry Sloan or Phil Jackson? Of course, there's no answer to that question, and it could be neither, but there is something about championship mettle which leans me a certain way on the answer to that question.

I am also critical of Jerry Sloan's ability to reach the pinnacle of success as an NBA coach when he had one of the top 5 all-time point guards to ever play the game and arguably the best power forward to play the game, playing together for FIFTEEN SEASONS together when he coached them. It's not just the 1997 and 1998 losses to the Bulls, but there were years that I was scratching my head when they couldn't get past the Spurs as well. The Spurs talent level wasn't that much better than the Jazz those years if it was better at all; they have a smarter head coach who wasn't stuck in the system he had, but rather knew had to make adjustments. Remember, the Jazz reached the WCF in 1992, 1994 and 1996, too. The teams they lost to were very good indeed, but were they really that much better than a team that featured 2 of the greatest players to ever play this game?

Regardless, I would love to read some heartfelt discussion that doesn't jus beatify this very good rival coach whose team impeded our progress in the late 90's until the legendary Phil Jackson arrived in L.A. Then again, perhaps I should be thanking him.


@DKWSFO... Thanks for your comments. It’s a real pleasure to see you back posting on the blog. You have always had smart observations and incisive insights into what’s going on with our Lakers. I too was hopeful this group could put together a memorable record setting season like the Bulls. Unfortunately, I think there were too many factors for them to overcome, including Drew’s delayed start, the funk Pau went through, the injury to Barnes, and the struggles of Fish, Artest, and Blake.
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On the other hand, I do think the Lakers are starting to find their true identity. Games like last night are clear signs of progress and should harden the resolve and confidence of all Lakers fans. First of all, Kobe is right now playing as intelligently and as team-oriented as I have ever seen him. I love that last night he attacked by driving into the paint rather than just settling for jump shots. Second, I thought all three of the Lakers front court trio outplayed their respective counterparts on the Celtics. To do that in a road game was most impressive to me as was coming from down 15.
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I do agree with you that we could use a dead-eye outside shooter and a fourth banger who could help if any of our Big Three front court players get injured or have foul difficulties would be great. I really love Matt Barnes and look forward to his return in March. As a former all-state football wide receiver, Matt understands playing without the ball better than anybody on the Lakers. His constant movement and cutting without the ball has been sorely missed on offense. As for Fish and Artest, I expect them to be fine once we get into the playoffs, where they will thrive again.
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The one interesting trade rumor that keeps coming up is the possibility of getting Stephen Jackson in a trade with the Bobcats. I think Captain Jack would be the only player who could provide us with much of what we get from Ron as well as what we got from Trevor. Unfortunately, that would mean trading Ron Artest, which I am not yet ready to do. I do love Stephen Jackson though. At any rate, I think we stand pat and trust in Phil to get this team peaking at the right time.
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TOM

@LakerTom

That is exactly my point, Utah will now become irrelevant in the coming years. Some years they will have a good team and most years they won't. Just like Memphis today, Sacramento in the early 2000's, and places like New Jersey, Cleveland, and so on. It should of NEVER happened like this, he should of been able to retire gracefully. As far as losing respect for DWill, I will let LRob address that because I'm curious how he justifies not losing even a little respect for him. I hope he doesn't even bring up Magic, because not only had Magic already win a NBA championship he won an NCAA championship as well. What has DWill won or accomplish in his short stint? It's not like he's Jason Kidd or Steve Nash, he's just a young punk liken to Jordan Farmar. What does he know? By the way I was a DWill fan and would of picked him over CPaul, not now!

Andrew Bynum has been notoriously slow starter. Even when he was healthy, his peak usually came around the end of Dec or Jan. Since his first game this season was right before Christmas, I am expecting him to play much better after the All Star break (2 months after he started to play this season.)

Andrew Bynum has been notoriously slow starter. Even when he was healthy, his peak usually came around the end of Dec or Jan. Since his first game this season was right before Christmas, I am expecting him to play much better after the All Star break (2 months after he started to play this season.)

Posted by: LakerPeace


Monumental Understatement!

Molasses flowing up hill on a Cold Freezing day in Minnesota starts Faster than Bumyn!!!

Likewise Laker Tom - always appreciate your insights as well. I apologize for my inconsistent appearances on the blog - but for me it is a time issue. With business on both coasts and the pace of growth of both companies, I have very little time to focus on writing. I do however, follow the blog on a regular basis and find it a quick 10 minute escape from the daily stress of long work hours.

I'm not really ready to give up on Artest either - but Jackson is tempting to think about as he is basically right between Artest and Ariza - providing both toughness and speed and also is a better/more aggressive scorer than both. And while Kwame was a clutz on offense, he is actually a high level defender in the post. I know his name could stir up some comments on the blog - but as a 4th big, I would like him - as a starter or main rotation player, no thanks - we all know how that turned out.

I wonder a little about Shannon Brown and while he can't be moved this year - for the future a spot the Lakers might consider upgrading with speed and youth. While I was a big Shannon advocate last year - in part due to potential - he actually hasn't progressed as I had hoped. It is great when he is on during one of his hot streaks - but he is an inconsistent shooter and an erratic ball handler, plus he makes poor decisions on both sides of the ball. He played pretty well in Boston Garden on Sunday, which is a big step forward. Last season, both he and Farmar seemed to wilt in hostile road environments.

Hopefully, Shannon's issues are more about just gaining experience - which will come with playing time. Actually, with his athletic talent - if he were to mature enough to become consistent - I could see him as a Vinny Johnson type (the microwave) - coming off the bench for instant offense and exciting - get the team going - athletic plays. So far - not enough of that relative to my expectations - but lots of season left.

So long

DKWSFO

Also, I would like to add that Kobe Bryant is actually improving as a player - in my opinion. While, he may have lost a step - I think Barkley is way off in making statements that Kobe has slowed way down.

Kobe as the facilitator .... not just being passive and not shooting so other guys can shoot .... but Kobe the facilitator, breaking down the defense and creating defensive reactions is an improved player. I look forward to continued improvement.

Personally, I believe if he had not destroyed his shooting hand, that last year, this year and next year would have been his best in the pros.

DKWSFO

And lastly,

We need to recruit the statistician that tracks Rondo's assists. First game with Boston he has 16 assists - 15 in second half. Last game 10 - compared to Kobe 4.

This is a guy - granted a great athlete - who was a non factor and in many ways a liability in both games - yet comes away with Magic type numbers. Kobe is breaking down the defense, making other players commit and making passes - gets 4 assists on Sunday.

I think if Rondo makes an 25 foot entry pass with no one on him and Pierce or Allen shoot and score he gets an assist.

Again, great athlete - but he is not even in the conversation as a point guard with the likes of Magic, Isiah Thomas, John Stockton, Steve Nash, Tiny Archibald, Oscar Robinson, Bob Cousy, etc....yet if you look at the stat sheet, you'd think he was the best of all of them. What's up with that?

Ok, that's it for me - have a great weekend everyone

DKWSFO


@DKWSFO... There are several responses to your posts by me on the next thread. Check it out.
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TOM

Man...this Jerry West, once the most admired figure in the NBA, had turned into a soured old man. Everything he had said the past 3 years had been anti-Laker, he trashed the organization, he trashed Kobe Bryant, he trashed Phil Jackson, all because he could never go back to his GM/President position of Lakers. How pathetic. I used to have the highest respect for Jerry West, now he's nothing more than a washed up, jobless old man who only has hate for professional basketball because he's no longer involved.

He says one thing, and tries to get everyone to believe he said something else, that's a trademark of a WEASEL. It's no longer Jerry West Mr. Clutch, it's Jerry the Weasel West. Guess what, I've got a soundtrack dedicated to you!!!

I know you're readimg this post daily, Jerry the Weasel West, so suck it up and do everyone else in the NBA a huge favor: just stay out of basketball and stay retired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfYoNPJcN30

All around the cobbler's Bench
The monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey thought it all in fun,
Pop, goes the weasel.

A penny for a spool of thread,
A penny for a needle.
That’s the way the money goes,
Pop! goes the weasel.


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