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Jerry West statue unveiling at Staples Center to take place Thursday at 6 p.m.

No longer will Jerry West's image be immortalized only in the NBA logo. At 6 p.m. Thursday outside Staples Center, it will also show up in the form of a statue.

This will be the third Lakers statue outside Staples Center, joining those of Magic Johnson and Chick Hearn. There are also statues depicting hockey player Wayne Gretzky and boxer Oscar De La Hoya. Johnson's statue was dedicated during the NBA All-Star game in Los Angeles in 2004, while Hearn's statue was unveiled last season.

The ceremony, which begins at 5 p.m, will be open to the  public and will feature speeches from West, members of his family and  teammates, colleagues and friends highlighting a storied career with the Lakers. During his playing career with the Lakers from 1960-1974, West led the team to an NBA championship in 1972, was a 14-time All-Star, a 10-time All-NBA selection and won the 1969 Finals MVP award, though the Lakers lost that series to the Boston Celtics. He also retired as the Lakers' all-time leading scorer with 25,192 points before Kobe Bryant eclipsed that mark last season. Then as general manager beginning in the 1982-83 season, West helped build seven championship Lakers teams, earned NBA executive-of-the-year honors in 1995 and brought in key pieces, such as Shaquille O'Neal and Bryant, that laid the foundation for the Lakers' three-peat from 2000-2002.

The statue will weigh 1,500 pounds and will be nearly 14 feet tall, with a granite pedestal. If West's remarks to The Times last week prove anything, it's that most of his comments during the ceremony will downplay his contributions. 

"I never did anything in my life for recognition," West said at Malibu Beach, where he was promoting the Northern Trust Open golf tournament, for which he is executive director. "A lot of people who were around would probably say that, even some connected with the Lakers. But that's not what I work for. I work because it was the love of my life. It was a thing that allowed me the opportunity to have an education and more importantly in basketball let me have a career."

It probably will also be filled with laments that West won only one NBA championship and never beat the  Celtics in the Finals.

"For all the times we came [so] close, I really felt in some respects that we let the city down because it was so supportive," West said. "When I see today what's being accomplished over the years when Jerry Buss has owned the Lakers, it's really been remarkable to see that transformation and to see the admiration the fans have for this franchise. I had a small part in that. I'm very grateful to have been part of that."

--Mark Medina

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some thoughts on the road trip

The Boston game should not be the barometer of the Lakers progress.
You have to remember that Paul Pierce was injured which made Artest's defense look better than it truly was. Paul dominated Artest at Staples.

The last 2 games should be very worrisome. A struggling Orlando team and Charolette dominated us. Practice Season excuse makers will have no more excuses when then Lakers are eliminated in the Playoffs this year, more likely in the Western Conference.
That's when I will tear into your arses for being so stupid. The regular season is a microcosm of the playoffs. Of course if I'm wrong you can rip me as much as you want, but for now I won't ridicule to an extreme what I think is a most naive way to analyze the Lakers this season.

So I say the Boston game was "fools gold" much like some of our players. Another thought on the Boston game, Ray Allen breaking the 3 point record also served as a distraction to Boston, subsequently the game did not have that intensity we normally see.

A trade is needed desperately.

The Logo = The Statue.

Jerry West: as always, the epitome of class.

A giant of a statue for a giant of a sport figure. Even without the metal and granite, he'd still be 14 feet tall.

Where is Elgin Baylor?

The Logo;
AKA: Jerry "The Biggest Loser in the history of the NBA Finals" West......

Mr. 1 win and 8 losses.

Way past time for 'Mr.Clutch' to be so honored. Now, how about Elgin and Cap?

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

Hi Ms. Buss :), what's going on I got volumes to say about it. Yet somebody already posted alot so, i don't feel like reading there's so i doubt anybody feel like reading mine. I noted from glancing at it how the hell hell De La Hoya got his own statue i guess Gretzky contribution smh but Chick it still is not the same wo his voice. i can easily give tnt or espn the watch n listen, never wit Chick tho. Chick was.. maybe i can attend

For the wine aficionados in this blog, Jerry has quite a wine collection:

http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/41549

From some of the labels mentioned in the article, Jerry's 4,000 bottle collection is probably worth $450K. Quite impressive for a kid from rural Weylan, WV.

I became Lakers fan because of Shaq. I saw Shaq broke a glass board in Phoenix when Shaq playing for Orlando, i've never seen any player like Shaq, big , strong and fast. Jerry West has an eye for talent, he brought Shaq and Kobe to LA. Jerry West deservers it.

Posted by: LRob

Yep in the 89 season, coming off a repeat like these Lakers, they lost 8...count em...8 straight road games including to three of the worst teams in the league (Nets, Bullets, Kings). The last 5 loses were by an average of 12 points.
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What you fail to mention is that the Lakers lost to Detroit 4-0 in the Finals.

Trivia question:

How many ex-Celtics did it take to coach Jerry "The biggest loser" West to his only NBA title as a player??????

Answer is:
Two; Bill Sharman and KC Jones; a couple of guys who learned it all from Red

Posted by: guy From Canada

What does it take for a team to move onto the playoffs and win a chanpionship with such performance during the regular season??? If everyone could remember on 2000-2001 season, after having a so so performance in the regular season, almost a mediocre one indeed, the Lakers walloped every team from the 1st round of the playoff to the western conference finals til that single lost to Philly in game 1 of the finals. Nevertheless, after which they went on for 4 straight wins (4-1) to capture their 2nd NBA title. Almost a perfect performance out there for them. Question is do they have that same character...same passion and intensity, this time around???

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What you fail to mention is the lakers had the Dominating Shaq.
Big difference

Posted by: Boston#18

Ha ha! Pull the trigger? I'm a celtics fan,but let me tell you this: if you're trading drew for melo then forget about 3peat. Trading Drew for Melo is like saying "OK! WE ARE GIVING UP" ha ha! Go Cs!

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Don't believe for a second that you are a Boston fan. Sounds like a pom pom waving GHF Laker fan disguised as a Boston fan.
How sad using a such a lame tactic.

If you're buying the 6th Man rule that "The player must come off the bench in more games than they start," then I'm selling Lamar Odom as the 2010-11 NBA 6th Man of the Year (so long as he stays healthy and doesn't start more than eight more games this season).

Posted by: Staples 24

Bynum's complain is a SIGN he KNOWS he can dominate this game with his size and WANTS THAT RESPONSIBILTY.

BYNUM is basically SLOWLY asking this team is no longer Kobe, Gasol and Odom, BYNUM is now WANTING to begin the SHIFTING of the TEAM"S offensive firepower on him. The time of Gasol, Odom, Kobe being the supporting role players may have just start to begin. It will not happen this year, but this is the FIRST TIME without any planning and without hidden agenda that BYNUM SPOKE UP out of frustration after an embarassing loss and now wnats the ball to be in his hands.

Either way, Bynum's complaint is a STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTIN FOR HIM AND FOR THE LAKERS.

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Staples, your history of hating on Kobe and loving Drew is well documented.
But before Drew or you think he should be the focal point, don't you think he should be able to at least outplay Kwame Brown?
Side note: it seems like every other game Drew is grabbing his knee and wincing in pain. Not a good sign.

"The Bobcats are giving coach Paul Silas a one-year extension. " Yahoo Sports


Silas to L.A. Lakers: Thank you man!

Troll man,


Kobe and Kwame won anything? Or you remeber the painful years of getting beat by the Suns TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS in the playoffs. You really wanna go the Kwanme road? Id id not think so, ask Mike T.

Staples,

Just making the observation that Drew could not outplay Kwame this game. Yes the same Kwame you don't me to "go down that road" Now that's irony.

There have been times where I would have agreed with you on letting Drew become "The Man". But unfortunately, injuries and lack of consistent play has made me cautious going this route.
It seems to me that Drew has regressed from where he once was. You said in maybe a year, well if he doesn't do it next year (provided he's not traded or injured again) I can't see the Lakers picking up their team option.

Well deserved

for the classiest of acts that is J West, a winner in every aspect of his life.

FYI for some who may not know, I believe he still holds the course record at Bel Air CC. A record Michael Jordan would kill for.

btw, unbelievable how low this forum has slipped when one of a small few symbols of Laker greatness is followed by so many obsessively compulsive troll droppings.

Long overdue for #44.
The goggle, and skyhook are also long overdue outside Staples. Cap has to be next (although Elgin needs to be recognized, as well).

VMan

Should I tell you how Jerry West was my first basketball hero? Would that pacify you.

so you would prefer that all comments be only of JW?
Come on get real, with thread after thread after thread after thread?

Really, get real.

VMan,

Perhaps I should also share with you that as a kid, Jerry West gave me my first autograph at a Bob Boyd basketball camp.

I remember him coming in as a guest speaker and he was talking to all us kids all the while shooting outside shots. Swish after swish he never missed. One thing I remember him saying was that he thought his shot was truly "on" when it hit the back of the rim and went straight down the hoop.
I guess his shot wasn't quite "on" that day because like I said, it was nothing but net after net.

What you fail to mention is that the Lakers lost to Detroit 4-0 in the Finals.

Posted by: Troll Man | February 15, 2011 at 08:49 PM

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Troll Man,

How astute. And this team (and any team) will lose also if the league MVP, 2 of its top 3 scorers, its top 3pt shooter, top assist guy, 2nd leader rebounder and top two leaders in steals get injured before/and in the finals.


Jerry West = one of the greatest basketball minds ever!

It's not surprising to hear trade proposals back up agains after the Lakers' poor losses this week to Orlando and Charlotte. But what the previous week illustrated is that the Lakers have the personnel and can beat anyone in the league -- if they put in the necessary work and attitude. It's not about getting new players. It's about the existing ones doing their jobs on a consistent basis.

Cyber,

Nice article. I like #4, acquiring R. Fernandez from Portland for S. Brown.

What do you think of this trade if Melo goes to NY. In essence, Bynum, Brown and Ebanks for Nene and Afflalo. Afflalo is a good outside shooter, that also brings high intensity defense on the court. We would still have a very capable physical center, one who could land us D. Howard next year. LOL.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ghzmwb

P.S. I guarantee you that the Bobcats would trade Wallace for Hibbert in a heartbeat! (inside FBB joke for the rset of you)

MM,

Some of the trade talk started with Kupchak and Magic, as fans we love to play virtual GM. However, it's not just the way the team plays that prompts talks of a trade, it's also posturing the team to continue it's winning legacy in the future. More importantly, it's about keeping LeBronze from winning multiple championships as he thinks he will. Not to mention creating some distance for total chips between us and the Chowds. It's all about the purple and gold.

Will we have to pay Time Warner to see the statue?

Great article,a well deserved honor 4 not only 1 of the greatest Lakers-but 1 of the greatest players in NBA history.Long overdue!!
#LAKERS 4 LIFE http://dld.bz/NgDN

LRob

I remember those injuries to Magic and Scott in the Finals against Detroit also.

Who knows what would have been.

But unless you want to be like a lot of Celtic fans, try not to use injuries for excuses. The fact is that the Lakers did not win the championship that year.

Interesting

The Right/Wrong Stuff
you mean to say last week the Lakers had the right stuff when they

1. lost to the Spurs
2. beat creampuffs Memphis and NY
3. beat NO, who we always beat and...
4. beat a distracted and injured Boston team

This is the team with the right personnel, and....

the same personnel losing to Orlando and Charolette is the same, only different?

sounds to me you are a charter member of the "practice season" excuse makers.

Next statue = Kobe.

LRob

like I said, who knows if the Lakers would have won the championship that year with a healthy squad.
That was one bad-ass Bad Boys Piston team which the Lakers barely beat the year before in seven games and who won back to back titles also.

Troll Man,

Agreed. No guarantees the Lakers would have won even if healthy in 89.

The reason I brought up the 89 season was...someone posted that the Showtime Lakers never played like "this" in the regular season and I was pointing out that they lost 8 straight road games. Yes even the great Showtime Lakers had stretches like this.

GDUB,

I like her. The track "beautiful" stood out the most because of the lyrics (ala India.arie) and melody. I even like the cut she used the voice box/auto tune on. Thanks for posting her.

I normally passionately disagree with with Bill Plaschke, but he's right about the Lakers new television agreement.

It should be on KCAL.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I will be there when the statue is revealed.

I can't wait.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Wish I could have seen Jerry West play back in the day.

LRob

At least the year the Lakers went 69-13, I didn't freak out so much.

But I remember being mad that they lost a few games they should have won at the end of the season which cost them the magical 70 win mark that the Bulls would eventually reach. Still pissed to this day over that.

I never saw J West play but he was the best gm of all time. I watched the lakers vs pistons finals of 1989. The pistons dominated the lakers and in my opinion and others magic faked his injury to avoid the humiliation. Claiming a hamstring injury. The 3 guard set of isaiah/dumars and aguire along with the microwave vinny johnson was too much. Not too mention defensive specialists rodman and salley.

I read constantly that this is the practice season. Ok so if no game is important to the lakers then it stands to reason that the lakers will continue to slide in the standings. Can a possibly 4th seed laker team win it all? Yes but I doubt it. Actually I believe that they can win with a caveat. It comes down to phil and kobe. In the boston game kg had 5 fouls and the reporter ask pg if he was going to go at kg to get him to pick up # 6 pg said no because he doesn't coach like that. i was stunned. He must use fundamental coaching to guide his team to title # 17. Phil does things that are counter intuitive but his 11 rings justified it. In 2008 i believe the lakers could have won the series if phil had used fundamental coaching techniques like calling timeouts when your team is up by a large margin when the other team make its run. His belief is to let the team play through it. Or having a young farmar in instead of the finals tested fisher. Now he has an less than super kobe, a soft power forward, an ineffective pg, an ineffective bench except lo and a brick layer ron ron. On the left coach his main opponent seems to have gotten better with age. Pierce is better than ever with the second highest +/- in the league. He is the total package and he is slimmer so he can out quick ron ron. Ray allen is still deady. KG is back. Rondo their most important player has improved. Big baby and nate instant offense. Plus they have a chip on their shoulder.

Kobe may hold the real key. kobe problem is that he is battling the present which is getting ring number 6 and immortality. On boston again if kg wins the finals mvp it doesn't matter to the other players. Or if Rondo wins the mvp or pierce. But on this team kobe feels he must win it. Thats a problem. I believe in game 2 both bynum abnd gasol were rolling and dominating. Kobe seemed to be looking at the mvp situation took some ill advised shots and we lost the game. If Gasol or bynum has an advantage kobe must get them the ball and forget about the mvp chase. So what if Gasol gets the mvp as long as la wins again. Everyone knows la cant win without 24 but kobe will show his true greatness if he reads the game and facilitates. kobe must be unselfish and i doubt he can do that. I know shaq did that to him. But if he does it to gasol i believe gasol will rebel and the lakers will lose. Gasol was not happy after game 2 last year. Kobe you have nothing else to prove your career is complete. You are a legend. If la makes it to the finals the most important thing is to win the dam ring man.

Kobe may hold the real key. kobe problem is that he is battling the present which is getting ring number 6 and immortality. On boston again if kg wins the finals mvp it doesn't matter to the other players. Or if Rondo wins the mvp or pierce. But on this team kobe feels he must win it. Thats a problem. I believe in game 2 both bynum abnd gasol were rolling and dominating. Kobe seemed to be looking at the mvp situation took some ill advised shots and we lost the game. If Gasol or bynum has an advantage kobe must get them the ball and forget about the mvp chase. So what if Gasol gets the mvp as long as la wins again. Everyone knows la cant win without 24 but kobe will show his true greatness if he reads the game and facilitates. kobe must be unselfish and i doubt he can do that. I know shaq did that to him. But if he does it to gasol i believe gasol will rebel and the lakers will lose. Gasol was not happy after game 2 last year. Kobe you have nothing else to prove your career is complete. You are a legend. If la makes it to the finals the most important thing is to win the dam ring man.

Kobe may hold the real key. kobe problem is that he is battling the present which is getting ring number 6 and immortality. On boston again if kg wins the finals mvp it doesn't matter to the other players. Or if Rondo wins the mvp or pierce. But on this team kobe feels he must win it. Thats a problem. I believe in game 2 both bynum abnd gasol were rolling and dominating. Kobe seemed to be looking at the mvp situation took some ill advised shots and we lost the game. If Gasol or bynum has an advantage kobe must get them the ball and forget about the mvp chase. So what if Gasol gets the mvp as long as la wins again. Everyone knows la cant win without 24 but kobe will show his true greatness if he reads the game and facilitates. kobe must be unselfish and i doubt he can do that. I know shaq did that to him. But if he does it to gasol i believe gasol will rebel and the lakers will lose. Gasol was not happy after game 2 last year. Kobe you have nothing else to prove your career is complete. You are a legend. If la makes it to the finals the most important thing is to win the dam ring man.

island priest

Funny you should mention you believed that "Magic faked his injury to avoid the humiliation" in the 89 Finals against Detroit.

That thought crossed my mind also.

But when Byron Scott went down I blamed Pat Riley for putting the Lakers through grueling practices before the finals started. I doubt if PJ would ever do that given the same situation. Though I do agree his coaching left a lot to be desired during the 08 Finals against Boston.

Jerry West, the reason why I use the #44.

1969 NBA Finals MVP, on a losing team? Simply AMAZING!!!

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Troll Man

"he thought his shot was truly "on" when it hit the back of the rim and went straight down the hoop."

Great that you remember that. He was obviously tuned into every nuance of his shot.

He also said that he knew the "hot" feeling well on the basketball court, but the day he went "low" at Bel Air, it felt different. All he could do was get out of his own way and let it happen. Interesting take on the 2 games.

VMan

golf is a different animal, for sure.

JovBatz44

I wore 44 in football but had to settle for 34 in basketball cuz it was already taken.

Bye Bye Free

IT's understandable to agree with Bill Plaschke about this watershed moment as the the Lakers move off free TV. It's another battle in the revolution of billing.

APple made interesting moves this month in setting up prescription services and, as the Lakers follow that dollar, there's good and bad.

ON a blog where some pass music around like the free ones and zeros it travels as in the digital pipeline, the concept of free reigns. Don't pay for ESPN insider, don't pay for music, don't pay period.

THose days may be waning and that's not all bad. You or your sons and daughters might be able to benefit with a salary in fields that have been hit so hard they're knocked out. Creators of content might be able to share in their own success. Guys like Mark Medina might be able to keep a job at a newspaper / paid online service past the age of 30.

I remember getting SHowtime in the 80s cause the Laker home games were covered. It seemed a reasonable price to pay vs the season tickets. Back then, floor seats were almost affordable if by affordable you mean the price of a Hyundai.

ONe thing is certain, at Laker prices, and no Kobe to fill the seats, there could be a 2012 depression.

COrporations have no soul. Can't expect them to do the "right thing" for anything other than reasons that effect the bottom line. Biz survival 101.
But it's a balancing act. One could fall.

Magic faked an injury to get out of playing in the '89 Finals?
Seriously?
Of course you're joking right.
Actually, that's not even funny as a joke.

Good Morning: JovBatz44, TrollMan, VMan, IslandPriest, Art! How are you Gung Ho brothers on this wonderful Lakers Game Day morning?

COrporations have no soul. Can't expect them to do he "right thing" for anything other than reasons that effect the ottom line. Biz survival 101. But it's a balancing act. One could fall. Posted by: VMan | February 16, 2011 at 05:10 AM
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Absolutely wonderful Post. I might quible with a few things, but overall...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!!!!!!! KUDOS!!!!

I wore 44 in football but had to settle for 34 in basketball cuz it was already taken.
Posted by: Troll Man
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Troll Man,

Too bad you had to settle to your second priority number in Basketball. =)

I wore 44 everytime, no one seems to beat me to it. My older brother always has 32 on his, he is a big Magic fan.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Good Morning Mamba24!!!

I'm super fine, especially on a game day!! Hope you are doing well, too! One game to go before our Lakers get a much needed rest. Though some of our players will still be busy.

We shall take care of business tonight. Our Lakers better WIN this one, or else, it won't count again! LOL!


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

LO = 6th Man of the Year.

I'm super fine, especially on a game day!! Hope you are doing well, too! One game to go before our Lakers get a much needed rest. We shall take care of business tonight. Our Lakers better WIN this one, or else, it won't count again! LOL! Posted by: JovBatz44 | February 16, 2011 at 05:42 AM
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LOL! Hey JovBatz44! Yeah I think it will count , as for me, this is a strange Flu that is going around. You think you are almost rid of it and it knocks you back to your knees again. I was pretty good all yesterday but last night I thought I was gonna die! Oh well I got to make it thru today cause…IT’S GAME DAY BABYYYYYYY!!! LOL! Yeah the Lakers better win this one or there will be hell to pay with Phil and Kobe also. I just hope they aren’t looking so forward to the ASG and the time off that they play this Cavalier team short.

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For those hoping that Pau gets included in trade talks....this is why Pau Gasol will not be traded anytime soon.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-nba-lakers-latino-20110216,0,3818292.story

Cheers - PLG

Good morning Laker fans!!

It's game day and a lovely one at that.
Jon K. - please take pictures for us and have fun!

Cheers all - PLG

For those hoping that Pau gets included in trade talks....this is why Pau Gasol will not be traded anytime soon. http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-nba-lakers-latino-20110216,0,3818292.story Cheers – PLG Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | February 16, 2011 at 06:31 AM

Good morning PsychedLakerGirl! Yes I think it is going to be a lovely Lakers day and a lovely Lakers Game. As for why Pau won’t be traded…Yeah your reason works but, just the fact that he is a damn good player works also!!!LOL! Carry On!

I think Kobe's statue will be the first one of a player who ACTUALLY PLAYED at the Staples Center. No disrespect to Magic, The Great One, or The Golden Boy, or even The Logo, but WHAT? Considering that Staples is the unofficial LA sports mecha(?), I guess I'll go with it.

In retrospect, putting a statue of West up at the Forum (which is now a church I hear?) wouldn't make much more sense, either...

DBDH!

I think Kobe's statue will be the first one of a player who ACTUALLY PLAYED at the Staples Center. No disrespect to Magic, The Great One, or The Golden Boy, or even The Logo, but WHAT? Considering that Staples is the unofficial LA sports mecha(?), I guess I'll go with it.

In retrospect, putting a statue of West up at the Forum (which is now a church I hear?) wouldn't make much more sense, either...

DBDH!

Island Priest,

re: Kobe, you wrote: Kobe may hold the real key. kobe problem is that he is battling the present which is getting ring number 6 and immortality. On boston again if kg wins the finals mvp it doesn't matter to the other players. Or if Rondo wins the mvp or pierce. But on this team kobe feels he must win it. Thats a problem. I believe in game 2 both bynum abnd gasol were rolling and dominating. Kobe seemed to be looking at the mvp situation took some ill advised shots and we lost the game. If Gasol or bynum has an advantage kobe must get them the ball and forget about the mvp chase.

my response: I don't think you're remembering things clearly.

http://www.nba.com/games/20100606/BOSLAL/gameinfo.html

Kobe was 8-20.
Artest was 1-10
D-Fish was 2-8
LO was 1-3
Both Pau & Bynum took 10 shots.

When you look at Kobe's APG & MJ's & Jerry West's they're all in the same
ball park. The box score and the comparison to other great SG's should
indicate that Kobe didn't shoot too much that game which is the essence of
your argument. i.e. "That Kobe wants most of the glory & will hurt the
team to get that glory."

Perhaps you should reflect back on PJ's words. i.e. if Someone wants the
ball they need to be aggressive in establishing position and aggressive in
calling for it. You should also reflect on the players comments where they
indicate that they stand around and watch Kobe. i.e. Bynum and Kobedar.

Perhaps you should reflect back on PJ's words. i.e. if Someone wants the
ball they need to be aggressive in establishing position and aggressive in
calling for it. You should also reflect on the players comments where they
indicate that they stand around and watch Kobe. i.e. Bynum and Kobedar. Posted by: hobbitmage | February 16, 2011 at 07:05 AM
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Yes HobbitMage Reflection is indeed a Good Thing! Good Post also...Carry On Sir!

Good Morning Don't Blame Del Harris! Interesting observations sir!

In this game -- as most of you know -- the more aggressive team tends to get the bounces. Energy is a strange thing, and if you've ever played the game, you know the power of momentum.

Tonight will be about regaining that momentum, creating those bounces. The Cavs remember being embarrassed by the Lakers in their last meeting. The Lakers need to be prepared to match that energy tonight.

By the by: Congrats to JW. Long deserved.

Go Lake Show!

Hard to imagine that the new 'procedure' to TIVO the game, then watch it later if it looks like the Lakers actually tried to play hard should apply to Cleveland! Maybe I'll delay that until after the ASG............

Wonder which Cav's player will have some personal best tonight............

Kobe was 8-20.
Artest was 1-10
D-Fish was 2-8
LO was 1-3
Both Pau & Bynum took 10 shots.

Posted by: hobbitmage | February 16, 2011 at 07:05 AM

Well Pau did take 10 shots and was 7-10. Bynum was 6-10. The way you posted the stats sort of implies that Pau and Bynum took 10 shots combined.

Hobbit,

I'm kind of curious as to why you didn't post Bynum's and Pau's shooting stats, showing makes and misses, in the same manner that you posted shooting stats for the other key players? A pillar of Priests theory is that Pau and Bynum were rolling that day, and therefore they should have gotten more shots. As to that particular issue, certainly the shooting stats back Island Priest's contention. I mean Pau shot 70%, Drew is shot 60%, and Kobe shot 40%.

@Sonnybelfest... Must have been a tough game to watch last nite!!!That KARMA IS a Biatch! One win against the Laker's does not make any team a Champion! 5-2 is not a bad road trip. We will be rested and ready to go after the All Star break. Go Laker's!

Trollman, JovBatz44 & Vman,

Nice conversation in the early morning crew about Jerry W.

Absolutely, in late 60's I became an Laker fan because of #44 and #22 (Elgin) they rocked the NBA but could not pass the Boston Celtics. Btw, Bill Russell got a Freedom Award medal yesterday at the White House, he truly deserved that award for his contribution to professional basketball and civil rights movement.

As we can also see, the wisdom of Vman's post about Finance. We used to discuss the fans at Staples when it comes to across the board increases. There could be a lockout between the owners and players, what about the fans? Who represents them? Nobody in the media give any credit to the fans who are the one responsible for paying salaries and the ROI of the owners. Well, BSPN and soon Time Warner are part of the problems, just follow the money and explains why we should get too emotional, too passionate about professional basketball. Someday in the future, we need "Campaign Egypt" in NBA, lock all these greedy forces from owners to players and media who milked at fans in general with poor entertainment with cheating refs. and manufactured news.

Congrats Jerry, no one deserves it more. I still love the fact he won a Finals MVP while being on the loosing team, that's crazy! Chic used to say he was best Mad player ever, Mr. Clutch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETnpo4Fs33M

Sonnybelfest... Must have been a tough game to watch last nite!!!That KARMA IS a Biatch! One win against the Laker's does not make any team a Champion! 5-2 is not a bad road trip. We will be rested and ready to go after the All Star break. Go Laker's! Posted by: NewMexicoLL | February 16, 2011 at 07:42 AM
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Yes NewMexicoLL still has the Swagger and has got her Game Face On!!! God Bless “The Real Laker Girls” Good Morning Ma'am I don't even have to ask if you are ready for the game tonight!!! Carry On!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETnpo4Fs33M Posted by: Mark G | February 16, 2011 at 07:46
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Niceeeeeeee! Thank you!

mamba24, we have seen a plethora of pugnacious, pusillanimous, punk troll posters after our losses, amigo. But I don't expect to see very many after tonight's game. That is, except for Sonnybelfast, who I assume comes here because (a) there really can't be a Kings Blog...I mean, what's the point?!, and (b), dude wants to get that second-hand champion's glow by mingling among us, cause he'll never experience it first hand.

What was that I heard? Si, I hear it...

Laker Amigos...LET'S RIDE!!!

Good Morning Fellow Laker Bretheren! Game Day! Let's hope tonight's game represents the last of pacing themselves. I think we can all agree that we want to move forward to the part of the season that the Lakers play inspired ball.

Next week, Matt Barnes returns! While he isn't necessarily a difference maker, he will give us more depth, energy, toughness, and MINUTES!

Anyone seen Theo? I don't know about you guys but I would LOVE to see Pau play without worrying that he is overextending himself. If Theo could just gobble up 5 minutes a game or better yet 4 minutes per half, that would improve our bigs' rotation alot!

Theo sighting?

We already have a healthy Joe Smith who could spell the bigs, but for some reason PJ won't play him a few minutes here and there.

50 Theo Ratliff C 6-10 235 04/17/1973 Wyoming 15
1 Joe Smith F-C 6-10 225 07/26/1975 Maryland 15

hardly a statistical difference size-wise.

Mamba24 - thanks!
JohnnyV - yes, it would be nice to see Theo getting some minutes - I imagine that will happen after ASG.

Here's hoping the Lakers can start a new momentum swing with a W tonight! Really, there should be no reason for anything less. The whole Cavs team can't possibly have a season high tonight, can they?

Cheers - PLG

Will Barnes return already next week?

That would be good. The bench needs some kind of spark.

This road trip seems like a Deja Vu from last season, but I think not the road trip before ASG but the other one when the Lakers lost to the Heat and the Magic (I think it was around April???)

The team seems disconnected at times.

I don't want to take sides, but I think this blog needs the wise thoughts of KobeMVP888 because he is one of the few who can lower our frustration for the performance of the team during the regular season.

"The statue will weigh 1,500 pounds and will be nearly 14 feet tall"
No more center problems.Now we can trade Bynum for Melo.

GO LAKERS!!!

@ NuggetsCountry. Great point about Joe Smith. I am just stating the obvious that if PJ isn't playing Joe Smith, maybe he will play Theo? Seriously though, maybe PJ would do the same with Theo and make the decision to not play either of them.

Troll Man - "At least the year the Lakers went 69-13, I didn't freak out so much."

Frickin' Cavs! They lost to the frickin' Cavs, worst team in the league at that time (and, once again), and didn't get that 70. I was right there with you! (But I remember being a little nervous at the beginning of the season when Jerry was out, then when Elgin went down. After that... not so much.)

Jerry West - greatest single post-season player ever. Elevated his game more than any other player in the history of the NBA when the playoffs and finals came along, especially when you take into account he was only a 6'3 1/2" scrawny guy (but with monkey-long arms and a 42"+ vertical, maybe more). He had TERRIBLE coaches until Sharman came and not nearly the all-around team that the Celtics had during most of those years.

What was that I heard? Si, I hear it... Laker Amigos...LET'S RIDE!!! Posted by: CornerJ | February 16, 2011 at 08:17 AM
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And it began as a rumble and grew and grew until like a Sonic Boom the Roar resonated throughout the land. Baby Outlaw began strapping on His Gold Jersey as The Outlaw just smiled in Pride. LakerTom and the 3 generations of Lake Toms all instantly stopped what they were doing and assembled as one. The Mamba Clan even the hurt and walking wounded instantly rallied with their Leader Justanothermambafan. The lost ones of the LakersBlog suddenly began appearing as if this was the Rapture. Look, KBBlitz, Sir Charles, Astronut, and yes, yes, even “I’m Mike T. who the Hell are you” appeared. And suddenly there was much weeping and gnashing of teeth among the Trolls and among some unbelievers because they knew the Truth was about to be unveiled. And then one lone tall gallant LakerHolic stepped forward and in an instant the roar hushed. And then from his mouth these very holy words of majesty and power were uttered…..LAKER AMIGOS…LET’S RIDE and instantly a giant thunderclap sounded. Only it was not the Thunder, it was…THE FLIPPING OF THE SWITCH!!!!!! And from that instant on the Freakin 4 Dynasty, 16 Time Back-to-Back NBA Champion LA Lakers went on such a run the Likes of which the world will never see again.
No prisoners were taken, no quarter were given. The Heat & Celtics each tried to lose in the playoffs so as not to meet this mighty Vengeful Giant. For all Knew there were scores to be settled and the Lakers intended to collect their due…..TO BE CONTINUED!!!!


INSIDE-OUT BASKETBALL !!!
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I was happy to see Andrew Bynum finally start complaining about his minutes and lack of touches. I would have commented on this long ago but held off because many of the Lakers fans on this blog seem to be watching different games than I’m watching and I was hesitant to raise the issue due to the controversy that follows any post from me regarding Drew. The reality is, however, that Drew has been extremely active moving around, sealing his man, and getting great low post position only to see his teammates give him a quick glance and then pass the ball around the perimeter.
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Drew is in a tough situation being the young gun on a team full of veteran stars let by Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol and playing in an offensive system designed to give every player touches. Were he on another team, there is little doubt that he would be a 20/10/3 player. On the Lakers, however, he is actually the last option offensively during most games and gets the fewest touches. Per the latest stats, Drew has played in 31 games and is averaging 11.6 points, 7.5 boards, and 1.68 blocks. Even though he leads the team in shooting percentage at 57/5%, Drew is averaging only 8 shots per game compared to 19 for Kobe, 14 for Pau, 11 for Lamar, 8 for Artest, 8 for Brown, and 6 for Fisher. In reality, Drew should be the Lakers 3rd option at worst on offense, not their 4th or 5th option.
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I keep hearing how the Lakers play their best when playing inside out basketball, how their biggest advantage over other teams besides Kobe Bryant is their front court height and length. Phil says playing inside-out and pounding the ball inside is the formula for winning another championship. Yet, game in game out, the Lakers continue to shoot outside jumpers, often early in the clock, and refuse to play smart and pound the ball inside to Drew, who is the team’s best low post finisher. Stu Lantz says it best. You need to reward the big man for his efforts on defense and rebounding and get the ball to him when he gets great position inside. The Lakers are just not doing that.
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I am hoping to see the Lakers play a smarter brand of basketball tonight against the woeful Cavaliers. I am hoping they reward their young center by making him at worst their 3rd option on offense and get him at least a dozen shot attempts. If they do, it will not only help the offense but also energize and motivate Drew to play even better on defense and on the boards. If the Lakers want to win another championship, they need to stop having players like Fisher, who is shooting an inexcusable 38%, get the same number of shot attempts as Drew who is shooting 57%. It is not a coincidence that the Lakers front court trio of Drew. Pau, and Lamar are all shooting over 50%. Time to smarten up and play inside-out basketball from the opening tip to closing buzzer.
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TOM

Troll Man

That's funny, I also have always blamed Riles for the hamstring debacle. He totally worked them too hard at the end of the year.

I have a weird question. If the Lakers pull it off this year, can flip the switch in the playoffs and win another Ring, and if we think a big part of the problem during the reg season is motivation . . . geez, how bad is the regular season going to be Next Year? Kind of frightening to imagine eh.


@MAMBA24... Larry, Larry, Larry. “And it began as a rumble...” That was pure genius, man. You’ve got my wired for a practice season game against the Cavaliers. Phil ought to hire you to give the team a pre-game speech on behalf of the blog. If you are anywhere near as good an orator as you are a writer, we’d go undefeated for the rest of the season. You are the blog’s heart and soul.
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TOM

That's funny, I also have always blamed Riles for the hamstring debacle. He totally worked them too hard at the end of the year. Posted by: Mark G | February 16, 2011 at 08:57 AM
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Yep! And worked himself right out of another championship!!

That was pure genius, man. You’ve got my wired for a practice season game against the Cavaliers. Phil ought to hire you to give the team a pre-game speech on behalf of the blog. If you are anywhere near as good an orator as you are a writer, we’d go undefeated for the rest of the season. You are the blog’s heart and soul.Posted by: LakerTom | February 16, 2011 at 09:02 AM
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Stop it! Stop it right now!! Lol! Thank you Laker Tom sir! Carry On!

and if we think a big part of the problem during the reg season is motivation . . . geez, how bad is the regular season going to be Next Year? Kind of frightening to imagine eh. Posted by: Mark G | February 16, 2011 at 09:02 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!!!! THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!

Mamba24, my brother and saddle partner, THAT was...yes, truly...OUTFREAKINSTANDING!!! LAKER AMIGOS indeed.

You can be my Lucky Day to my Dusty Bottoms...who's going to be our Ned Nederlander? Justa?

Larry,

not to put pressure on you, but I do feel like you're about to really lay it down and give us something EPIC. Have at it!

You can be my Lucky Day to my Dusty Bottoms...who's going to be our Ned Nederlander? Justa? Posted by: CornerJ | February 16, 2011 at 09:10 AM
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Sure she can...As long as you tell her!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not to put pressure on you, but I do feel like you're about to really lay it down and give us something EPIC. Have at it!
Posted by: Mark G | February 16, 2011 at 09:10 AM
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No Pressure, no pressure at all Mark G!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!

Laker Tom, I don't disagree with your contention that Drew needs to get more touches, but here's the heart of the problem with the current state of our "inside-out" strategy...it hasn't worked and it will not work until we get a credible, consistent outside shooter. I've pointed out several times that teams have figured out that we lack that true perimeter gunner, so they have been collapsing into our interior, mauling our bigs, and daring our pop-gunners to shoot bricks...which is what has led to these embarrassing romps by punk teams.

It's not going to do any good whatsoever to "give Drew more touches" if he's got two or three guys inside his jockstrap all the time. The ONLY way to take advantage of his inside abilities is to free him up. If we don't start hitting those outside shots...and soon...it ain't gonna happen.

One alternative, which I've previously mentioned, is to occasionally create space with a different offensive set other than our triangle (which is now basically a double low post). I believe that a high screen and roll, with Kobe and Pau moving up top and Drew down low is the ideal set for this team. It creates space and opportunities for not just Kobe and Pau, but also for Drew down low. Right now, Drew and Pau look like two big commuters caught in a Tokyo subway car with midgets jamming them in on all sides. Ain't no inside-out there.


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