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How Tony Parker's injury could affect the Lakers

59722343Pinpoint any portion of the Lakers' schedule and the main storyline will stay the same.

It's why Lakers Coach Phil Jackson kept two-a-day sessions during training camp to a minimum. It's why he found time during the season to limit practice time and give the team days off when he felt it was warranted. And it's why Jackson felt neither too high during long winning streaks or too low after disappointing performances.

The reason, of course, involves the players' health, the main variable Jackson and team members maintain serve as the biggest indicator on whether they can three-peat this season. There's plenty of moving parts regarding that issue. This mostly centers, of course, on aging All-Star guard Kobe Bryant, who's been mostly limited during practice this season because of the lack of cartilage surrounding his surgically repaired right knee. It includes Lakers center Andrew Bynum, who missed the first 24 games because of the controversial timing for his offseason surgery on his right knee and his extensive injury history that always leaves fans anxious. And it includes Lakers forward Matt Barnes, who traveled with the team on its two-game trip after rehabbing from Jan. 11 surgery on his right knee to treat a torn lateral meniscus tear.

While the latest NBA injury news doesn't directly involve the Lakers, their long-held belief that health proves to be the most important variable for determining playoff success proves timely. San Antonio guard Tony Parker is expected to miss two to four weeks because of a strained left calf, meaning he will miss at least six games and as many as 13, if he returns within the timetable given by the club. The natural instinct for Laker fans will involve how this could affect the defending champions. It's obviously natural to wonder if the Lakers could catch the Spurs in the standings, but it could be a tall measure considering San Antonio (49-10) holds an eight-game lead for the top spot in the Western Conference. It's more likely Dallas (43-16) could take the spot, considering it only trails San Antonio by six games, a scenario that would still affect the Lakers in playoff matchups. If the season ended today, the Lakers would face Denver in the first round and, assuming the Lakers advance, would then play the Mavericks in the second round. Should Dallas eclipse San Antonio in the West, the Lakers could meet the Spurs in the conference semifinals regardless of whether the defending champions finish second or third.

Those fixated on the standings race and playoff matchups, however, are missing the bigger picture. Sure, the Lakers probably feel more confident heading into Sunday's game against San Antonio without its starting point guard running the show. Jackson and his players have proclaimed that wins and losses matter more after the All-Star break, particularly in March, when the standings race is sorted out. And because of the nature of prolonged absences, it's conceivable the Spurs would go through a transition period when Parker returns to the lineup.

Regardless ofJason Terry's insistence the Mavericks aren't concerned about the Lakers and that Dallas will catch San Antonio, the main concern involves how each team handles injuries. Even though there's a possibility Parker's absence could ultimately hurt San Antonio in the postseason, the Spurs showed as recently as last season that they could adjust. When Parker missed 16 games in March and April last season because of a broken right hand, the Spurs went 11-5 during that stretch, including signature wins against Orlando, Cleveland, Boston and the Lakers as Manu Ginobili averaged 22.1 points, 5.8 assists and shot 51.7% from the field and 44.1% from three-point range. The stakes were higher then because the Spurs weren't at the top of the conference standings, they were fighting for playoff position. San Antonio certainly has the experience to do it again, considering George Hill is a reliable option at the point as the team's leading scorer off the bench (11.2 points per game) and Ginobili has proven more consistent this season.

It was tempting to write off Dallas after it lost Caron Butler to a season-ending injury and then fell in six consecutive games. It's tempting to believe San Antonio is showing cracks in its depth. But even if the NBA schedule is inching closer and closer to the postseason, it's too early to say. One only has to look at the Lakers last season to understand that having the proper amount of health in the postseason hinges on strategic planning and a little amount of luck. The Lakers sat Bynum for the final 13 games of the regular season in hopes he could fully recover from a strained left Achilles' tendon. They took a similar approach to resting Bryant for four of the last five games after his knee became swollen. Even though the rest and treatment helped, by no means had the Lakers solved their problems.

It was only the beginning of health concerns. Bryant continued to experienced increased swelling and Bynum soon discovered he had torn cartilage in his right knee. Both had their knees drained, and Bryant responded by going on a 30-point tear in 13 of the 18 playoff games after having the procedure before Game 6 of the first-round series against Oklahoma City. That allowed Bynum to essentially operate on one leg so he could still present the matchup problems his length provides against smaller conference opponents. Certainly a week-long stretch consisting of zero practice and heavy treatment between the Lakers' West semifinals matchup against Utah and conference finals series against Phoenix helped each player as well. 

The big question is how will San Antonio minimize the impact of Parker's absence for the next two to four weeks, and will the Spurs' fortunes take a serious enough downward spiral to help the Lakers. San Antonio is a well-coached team that has dealt with injury problems among its stars in the past, and with a lineup and bench that mixes veterans and young players they might not tumble too far in the standings, something Lakers fans might not want to hear at this point. But they'll admit it was too early to write off the Lakers after the knee injuries to Bryant and Bynum heading into the 2010 playoffs. With the Spurs, we'll simply just have to wait and see. 

--Mark Medina

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Photo: San Antonio's Tony Parker, right, drives around New Jersey's Deron Williams. Credit: Darren Abate / Associated Press

 
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It will just mean more minutes for everyone else - including their vets which can either benefit us come play off time or not really mean anything at all. Injuries suck for any team, sorry to see this for the spurs in all honesty (as much as I really, really hate them)


@CCX… I say we should have traded Pau’s Double to the Nuggets for Melo. LOL. It might have worked at least until we had to play the Nuggets. I remember Laron Profitt had a physical profile similar to Kobe and I always had to pay attention to the jersey # to know whom I was watching.
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As for the inside-out game and more touches for Drew, I think they will come. I suspect Phil will keep reminding the guys and eventually even mandate it. The key is for Drew to continue to work hard without the ball. I hope his critics have been watching him when he does not have the ball because for a low post player, he is constantly moving, trying to seal his man, spinning for the back door lob, cutting to the hoop. Everybody sees the increased activity level Drew has shown on defense the last four games. What they need to also recognize is how active he has been on offense.
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While intimidating interior defense is Drew’s top priority, his aggressive and active low post offense is also very important. There is nothing that discourages and debilitates a defense more than giving up easy dunks and offensive rebound put backs. Everybody can see that Drew still has not completely recovered the hops, quickness, and athleticism he had before the injury but most don’t realize that that he is actually playing better than he did when he was fully healthy. He has compensated for his physical limitations by focusing first on defense and rebounding and playing harder and smarter.
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When you look at this team with perspective as Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak do, you realize what a terrific asset you have in 23-year old budding superstar Andrew Bynum, especially since the core of the team is getting older. Combine the maturity, composure, confidence, and energy Drew has shown since the All-Star break with the above-the-rim hops, quickness, and athleticism of the pre-injury Andrew Bynum and we may well have that illusive franchise player to succeed Kobe Bryant when he finally hangs up his sneakers. A Bigger, Badder, and Better Beast to welcome in the post-Phil era.
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TOM

@LakerTom - "When you look at this team with perspective as Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak do, you realize what a terrific asset you have in 23-year old budding superstar Andrew Bynum, especially since the core of the team is getting older. Combine the maturity, composure, confidence, and energy Drew has shown since the All-Star break with the above-the-rim hops, quickness, and athleticism of the pre-injury Andrew Bynum and we may well have that illusive franchise player to succeed Kobe Bryant when he finally hangs up his sneakers. A Bigger, Badder, and Better Beast to welcome in the post-Phil era."

Yup. That's why it's a good thing those guys make the Lakers player decisions instead of the fans. I shudder to think of what our line-up would look like if Mitch listened to the cacophanous chorus of knowledge-light fans who want to dump everybody who doesn't average at least 15ppg.

I have a theory that too many folks out there spend way too much time in Fantasy Leagues and fall too much in love with big stats, since that's the only way to win those things. There just isn't any way to quantify core intangibles or statistically credit players who add to the overall team chemistry rather than being a neutral or even negative force in that regard. Yeah, you gotta have guys who can score, but they don't do it by themselves.

In today's NBA the wins that get you rings almost never come in 115 or 120+ point scoring totals. You will usually find them somewhere around the 90 point range, and when you run that through your head you start to appreciate guys who alter shots, take the charge, hit the floor or jump court-side fans to save the ball, deflect the pass, move without the ball, switch cleanly on defense, close out on perimeter shots, or bust through screens/picks against catch-and-shoot sharpshooters.

They get you possessions or interrupt those of your opponents. How many close games are really won by the team whose players more consistently make the effort to make those types of plays?

"It includes Lakers center Andrew Bynum, who missed the first 24 games because of the controversial timing for his offseason surgery on his right knee and his extensive injury history that always leaves fans anxious." FCM

Yes, that was the biggest set-back to start the season and now we're in the 2nd half! I have a distinct feeling Andrew and Dwight will be switching jerseys and frankly, I think it would work out well for Andrew because he wants to be an offensive player. With Kobe on the team, he would have to wait until Kobe realizes that the next phase of his game will be that of a Point Guard.

If and when Dwight becomes a Laker and Kobe refuses to dump the ball inside for every possession, then #24 will have to be benched. Time for a new sheriff on the sidelines and I think his name is Jerry Sloan!

I think Sloan's time has passed. I think Brian Shaw will get the first shot at succeding Phil. if I was DC or Ebanks, I'd be sure I was on good terms with BShaw. Too bad we didn't keep Toney Douglas, he'd be a good young PG to develop. We need to get younger sometime.

Mike Bibby to the Heat, perhaps Troy Murphy next, hummmm?

Wish the Lakers were closer in the standings to the Spurs so that they might be able to take advantage of Parker being out...

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LakerTom: Laron Profit? Now that is a blast from the past, a great 'where are they now' question, lol.

I'm all for trading Pau's body double, but just not for Chris Bosh, I think this guy probably would have more game.

Yeah, Drew's game has been very good. Seems like Phil is still monitoring his minutes some, still keeping him reigned in. I'm kind of hard on Pau at times, but really the high-post/low-post combo they form is a killer combo. Pau does a good job finding Drew with some nice passes too.

You mentioned in your reply to OUTLAW that you point out to the kids you coach on your team to find the open guy underneath. It seems so basic, so elementary, yet the Lakers go away from that for large stretches of games. I remember the showtime Lakers holding up, waiting for Cap to run down and set his position, then feeding him. Shaq too, I think back to all the times it would look like a WWF battle under the boards, our guards would wait and feed the dog.

The most frustrating part though is when they start working the ball around, our bigs (meaning, Drew) not getting touches and instead having to give up great position in working around the three-second clock. At times it would probably be more helpful for the shooters to put up a shot while there are rebounders underneath rather than when they are outside the paint, having vacated to not draw three-seconds. Another principle we aren't doing well: don't shoot unless there are rebounders.

Hate to lay the blame at Phil. He has his way of letting the guys figure their way, do their own thing. In the overall scheme that has worked, no doubt. I hope you're right that they will go to more of an inside-out game, give the bigs more touches. Come playoffs the slower, half-court pace and game will hopefully bring that about, as it has the last few playoffs.

Those that like it or not, accept it or not, Drew is the face of the future for the Lakers. Generation next. I continue to be thankful that Jimmy mixed it up with Mitch on the Lakers lone dip into the late-lottery. They pulled the plum out of that position. There is *no* big-man of his age group with even remotely his skill set, his low-post presence. In my book there are two centers and then there are the rest: Dwight and Drew. My bet is, come his prime, Drew will stand alone.

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frmkt: "If and when Dwight becomes a Laker and Kobe refuses to dump the ball inside for every possession, then #24 will have to be benched. Time for a new sheriff on the sidelines and I think his name is Jerry Sloan!"
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wow, that's a bold statment. It would almost be like that 2002-04 era again, Kobe rebelling against Phil.

I'm on board the 'B-Shaw as future Laker head coach' bandwagon - but have to admit that Sloan might be perfect. He is tough as nails and a voice this veteran Lakers team would respect. One thing's for sure: they screw around, not run a play and they're benched. No doubt about that.

As for distributor-Kobe, he does it very well and it's something he rarely gets props for. But, yeah, those end of game situations have become predictable (OK, they have been for years). I think though it's a case of 'if you're not going to double, I'm going to kill you'. Kobe is still the best closer in the game, but when he mixes in his 'maestro-mode' the Lakers are a darn near unstoppable juggernaut.

Would Kobe though allow himself to be reigned in by anyone come next season, Sloan or Shaw or ? I bet those guys will do one thing Phil doesn't: run some plays for the mamba, and mandate that inside-out game that would free up our shooters for open jumpers. That might be enough to appease the mamba, who in my estimation does more on-court coaching than Phil does off-court...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

hope this wasn't too rambling, too medicated to notice if it was...


@FRMKT…. Despite all the rumors and aspirations, I think it’s a very long shot that Dwight Howard will end up being traded to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum. The only argument in favor of the trade happening is that Andrew Bynum is probably the only player for whom Dwight could be traded 1-for-1 where both teams might benefit. The arguments against it include the fact that we don’t know what rule changes will come with the new CBA where a hard cap could put the Lakers in a financial bind; it seems totally out of character for good guy Howard to DEMAND a trade to the Lakers; other NBA teams will be lining up to trade for Dwight in a way that will make Melo feel cheated; and finally, the Lakers just might decide that they think Andrew Bynum is a better and less expensive fit for the team.
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@TAX ANALYST… “Yeah, you gotta have guys who can score, but they don't do it by themselves.” And more importantly, you gotta have guys who can keep the other team from scoring. Good stuff. Are you really a tax analyst? LOL. And your comment about fantasy sports and stats is dead on. While fantasy sports does make many fans more knowledgeable, the net result is that it also tends to devalue team loyalty much like free agency. It’s not the kind of action I like to add fun to the game.
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TOM

So Jason Terry says he's not worried about the Lakers. Well that's Jet running his mouth as usual. Here are a few of his other recent comments...


"We're going to catch San Antonio sooner or later, whether it's now or in the playoffs," Terry said Tuesday following the Mavericks' first post-All-Star break practice. "We'd rather it be in the playoffs, in the Western finals or what have you. But we're going to catch them."


"I want to play to I’m 40 or 41."


After gm 1 win vs. the Spurs in the playoffs last year....
We don't care what they throw at us," Mavs guard Jason Terry said. "For us, it's all about our mental and physical approach to the game. Mentally when we're right, we're hard to beat."


After the season ending gm 6 loss to the Spurs........
Said Mavs guard Jason Terry, "As of right now this season is a failure."

Last but not least, the regular season is cool, but you know your rep is made in the playoffs and Chandler has only been out of the 1st round once.
Posted by: LRob | February 28, 2011 at 03:41 PM "

He hasn't been on the greatest of teams. Just look at Pau, he hadn't been out of the first round before he came to LA but once he was on a good team, he turned out ok.

Posted by: Bay to LA | February 28, 2011 at 04:45 PM
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Bay to LA,

I’m not blaming Chandler, but rather pointing out a reason why he hasn’t received as much credit for his defense as Perk. Let him successfully bang with the Pistons, Magic, Lakers, etc like Perk has and the platitudes will follow.

When you look at this team with perspective as Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak do, you realize what a terrific asset you have in 23-year old budding superstar Andrew Bynum, especially since the core of the team is getting older. Combine the maturity, composure, confidence, and energy Drew has shown since the All-Star break with the above-the-rim hops, quickness, and athleticism of the pre-injury Andrew Bynum and we may well have that illusive franchise player to succeed Kobe Bryant when he finally hangs up his sneakers. A Bigger, Badder, and Better Beast to welcome in the post-Phil era.

Posted by: LakerTom | February 28, 2011 at 06:17 PM
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LT,

Its the hype like “budding superstar” after two strong performances that I don’t get. Very premature imho.

@LRob- I agree with your post about Dallas being more formidable against us than the Spurs, as far as matchup goes.

Ask yourself a honest question LRob- Does anything Dallas has done this year, make you think anything's going to be that different?

Bounced out of the first round 3 out of the last 4 years. Who's guarding Kobe at the end of a game 6? Caron Butler, don't think so. Love the way he wants to come back, he's not going to be in any kind of shape to guard Kobe. No way.
I'm not convinced about Dallas, LRob, they need to show me that they are for real. I'm looking at the standings, Denver, Portland, Memphis, any one of these teams have the matchups to beat Dallas.

That's why they play the game.
Posted by: Sean | February 28, 2011 at 06:29 PM
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Sean,

Yes, I think with the addition of Chandler, Dallas will definitely make it out of the 1st rd. I can’t see Denver, Portland or Memphis beating them. But don’t get it twisted, I don’t think Dallas or SA can beat the Lakers. So, you’re not going to get me to argue that on their behalf...lol. I do feel Dallas would be a tougher series. Marion would be the one guarding Kobe to answer your question.

@LakerTom - I second your above comments to CCX about Drew Bynum. To give up and trade him away would probably be one of the biggest mistakes in Laker history. There is no way that bringing in ANY 3-Forward or 2-Guard would give the Lakers the type of NBA-finals potential or positioning that Andrew Bynum's presence gives them. We probably would not see another NBA title flag added to Staples Center during Kobe Bryant's career, and that would be a real shame. With Bryant and a center like Bynum that title potential is there every single year as long as you have a reasonably talented, good-fitting supporting cast.

Posted by: Tax Analyst | February 28, 2011 at 06:33 PM
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Tax Analyst,

Just stick around. After some tough losses or subpar play you’ll see people calling for Drew, Pau and Ron to be traded, and Phil to be fired.

@frmkt,

Jerry Sloan has had a great career. But he doesn't appear to have the fight in him to continue to coach. Even if he did I would prefer someone to continue with someone that is more in line with Phil's proven philosophy....and that would be Mr. B-Shaw.

LRob: "So Jason Terry says he's not worried about the Lakers. Well that's Jet running his mouth as usual."
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LOL. Jason Terry is becoming the M.L. Carr of this generation. Well, at least Jet can play. I saw some game from earlier in the season when he was flailing his arms up, trying to get the Mavs fans to stand up after a couple made baskets. He is pretty annoying but gotta admit he's always had a jump shot.

Don't advocate violence and this is a blog that's family-friendly, but how funny would it be to see Ron Ron clothesline Terry as he's doing his stupid 'jet airplane' celebration come playoff time...

Now though I'm curious as to what he'll say after their forthcoming 2nd round loss to the Lakers in the upcoming playoffs. Maybe he'll repeat the 'season is a failure' line...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Aloha Laker Tom,

Long time no speak. Unfortunately Drew's production depends on more then other players looking for him. He has been limited by our inconsistent outside shooting all year. Have you noticed, he draws 2, sometimes 3 defenders every time he touches the ball. To his credit he has become a better passer and is turning the ball over less. Unfortunately until we can consistently spread the floor, I really do not see a big increase in scoring. And it's not just Drew. It has hurt Pau as well. Notice how we are now moving Pau out further for catch and shoot opportunities because there just isn't much room inside. Even Kobe has had issues posting up.

Steve blake could still be that guy, if we can actually get him to shoot more and he can start hitting at his career averages. If not, number one on next years shopping list should be a shooter.

Aloha

MH

Not really concerned with injuries to other teams, just want the Ls to stay healthy and play well.

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I stated just before the AS break, that I wished the team would come outta the break and run off a 7 game(or more) win streak. So far,so good! Just hope they can keep it up. Catch up with y'all on the live chat tomorrow.

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@LRob: Sorry,if I haven't responded to ya quickly enuff. I've been skipping a lot of threads lately.:-) Hope you've enjoyed some of my musical selections.

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For today's musical contribution, I'm gonna go with an artist from the ATL, by way of Savannah,GA. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6QYoJRZPvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppN-p3rypVU

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

"The natural instinct for Laker fans will involve how this could affect the defending champions," that's debatable MM. Before hearing about the injury, I assumed that the Lakers would beat the Spurs on Sunday. If anything, Parker's injury raises the possibility that the Lakes could go into the game a little flat. Hopefully, the fact the Lakers have an O'for against the Spurs gives them that extra motivation.

If both teams are healthy, I still don't think the Spurs can beat the Lakers in 7 game series no matter who has home court.

Why do people almost always have to use terms like, "potential," "budding star," and "if he stays healthy?" Really? Drew doesn't often enough post low and quickly to get those entry passes. So people are telling me that if Kobe fed him on a regular basis, he'd score at nearly every opportunity. If that was possible, I can't believe Kobe wouldn't dish more often. Phil won't even let him finish games? Why doesn't Drew have stats like: 8 of 10 from the field and 6 of 8 from the line for 22 Pts and 14 Rebs per? That would be a "star," no "budding" or "potential" or "ifs" about it. You know kinda like Dwight's stats every night.

Bibby (nice PG) went by the wayside and probably Murphy too (shooter)?

I'm with you guys that B Shaw will likely be the next head coach. I just think that this team needs more discipline on the court and be held accountable for sub par play.

As far as Andrew is concerned, I wouldn't like to see him traded for anything or anyone else but Dwight. Imagine Dwight spending some time with Kareem? Dwight is a champ in waiting and wouldn't it be nice if he won his first of many right here in L.A.? Dwight, Pau, and Kobe. I think it happens guys.

Repost,

I saw missed opportunities for easy dunks for Drew. Artest had the ball in the corner being over guarded and Bynum was being fronted. Ron passed the ball out to perimeter and Kobe dribbled and passed ball to Fish on the other side. Drew had a clear path to the basket as he was being fronted so quick pass back to Drew would lead to straight path to basket. This happened a few times. To do that would stop the fronting and easy pass to Drew for pass off for cutting Kobe.

Posted by: Justa (formerly JustaLakerFan) | February 28, 2011 at 06:23 PM

Maybe Kobe needs to learn to feed Drew. I have seen Farmar when here, Fish, LO, Blake and even Luke passs the ball into Drew with success, why not Kobe?

@LakerTom - "Are you really a tax analyst? "

Yep, guilty as charged...but it's not anywhere as glamorous as the name might imply (lol).

It's also an indication of how bad I am at making up on-line handles. Actually, it's not so much not being able to make them up - I really have a fairly fertile imagination - it's more about not being able to remember them.

With Brian Shaw on our coaching staff, it's difficult to understand how our guards and forwards are not good passers into the post. Shaw was one of the best there was at feeding big men in the post. Is he not teaching our guards how to do the same?

I wouldn't mind Shaw taking over next year, but I'd like to see Buss take another run at Coach K in the offseason. The roster we have right now is way better than what we had in 2004, so it just might be more enticing for Coach K to come on board and join forces with Kobe.

I was checking the NBA waviers list, hoping to see Luke Waltons name at the top of players who's contracts were bought out. no such luck! I guess we will be forced to make him Mitches replacement as Lakers GM WTF is this league coming too?

Rumor has it Troy Murphy and Mike Bibby to Miami ... seriously. I would love to have Troy Murphy on the Lakes, not so much Bibby. Joe Smith and Theo Ratliff are frankly a waste of roster space and payroll. Troy Murphy can flat ball still, wow. Why are we not even in the talks of being remotely interested in any of these recent FA's. Too bad.

Bit off topic... But when eric gordon returns clippers will have a nice backcourt duo of mo williams and EG to spread the floor for blake.. This team may be very close to playoff contention in years to come.. Now all they need is a new owner!

I hope bibby to heat rumors are true.. I would love to have him on the heat much more than on lakers.. Bibby aint the same bibby and his old and slow legs could prove to be the perfect fisher antidote should we face heat in finals

Speaking of bibby... add him to the long list of PGs that our great derek fisher has faced in a 7game playoff series and turned to permanent allstar nba status.

@frmkt - Dwight is playing at an MVP level this year. The thing a lot of people don't mention is he's never had the benefit of playing with another talented Big.


@EJK - Good point about Shaw being such a great post feeder. He truly believes in getting the ball in the post, so if he's the next coach that should bode well for Drew.


@GDUB - No worries on the delay. Good look on Anthony David. He’s the man. That whole cd is nice GA Peach, Cold Turkey, etc. Plus he co-wrote one of my favorite India.Arie songs, “There’s Hope”.


Mark G - I didn't just mean for the game on Sunday. I meant in terms of what it would mean big picture. I figured that'd be an inevitable topic of discussion. I've found the regulars seem to really be interested on what other teams do in terms of trades, success, because they're big basketball fans in general and it's always interesting to see what impact this has on the Lakers, if any

EJK and LRob,

I will lobby for best coaches in NC or the Showtime players as next coaches. For NC I love Coack K or Howland of the Bruins. Let's play defense and run. Let Bynum and Gasol run not just jog. Showtime Lakers in any order Cap, Big Game James, Coop and Norm. One of them becomes head coach and others as supporting cast. If Brian Shaw wants to join the Showtime, he stays as an asst, coach and dump the triangle. Anyway the guru is no longer running the show.

In 2004, Lakers F/O did not support Rudy Tomjanovich with the choices of players, after trading Shaq, dump Fox and Payton, did not convince forcefully Malone to re-sign to the Lakers by patching up the personal feud between Kobe and Malone because of latters tease on Veronica. Snubbed Fisher at his height by shortchanging him instead they gave the PG batonn to this garbage players like: Atkins, Mihm, Tierre Brown, Jumaine Jones, went for Brian Grant instead of D'Wade in the trade....what do you expect from all this garbage players who lobbed threes that were bricks. Kobe and Butler are the only strike force in the team. From the get go of the season, no chemistry, no Laker flavor but a hodgepodge of other teams. The next ensuing years were worst by going for Smush, Kwame, Shammond Williams, McGee, etc. Walton and Cook were strike force. Whoaaa! At least, PJ was able to manufacture wins to send us to playoffs. We were like a brand new extension team or the Boston Celtics competing for the cellar rankings to be first in the draft. If Mitch K is on its peak today, this was his valley of ineptness. There was no support Rudy T. That's just my 2 piece.

Yellofever,

Every time I watched the College games, boy I can see energy from these kids. We only need one young PG who know how to shoot and how to pass to the post or to Kobe and yet we could not get one. Look at Shannon, he's athletic and high jumper slowed down by the triangle. If he runs, he is just on his own and might as well go to the hoop and manufacture a dunk. Last year, PJ a running triangle which was enjoyable to watch, however this year he has to shelve it because old legs. Triangle became more lateral passing the ball or go to Kobe @ last quarter, so many players just standing around and spectating on Kobe. Why not move without the ball? Kobe will find you. Well you see what Sefolosha did, he was able to anticipate the pass to Bynum or the pass to Kobe. Slow, slow and slow and let Kobe do the shooting. If it was his lucky day, Lakers win but on some days, the shooting galore do not work well. Kobe takes the blame, a ball hog, dribbles too much, too many shots. The truth is, he was trying to win the game while his teammates are spectating and mishandling the ball.

LRob,

you wrote: Just stick around. After some tough losses or subpar play you’ll see people calling for Drew, Pau and Ron to be traded, and Phil to be fired.

my response: true. true.

I have noticed that Bynum is playing better after the all start break. I also
notice that he's dumped the knee brace and he's moving faster.

Did you hear/read about the requests for more ball to Bynum in the low
post?

I find it fascinating. Absolutely fascinating.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

Kobe's shot attempts are at the lowest since ... 99-00.

Pau is averaging about the same as the last 3 years when we went to the
Finals.

Honestly, it seems like a stupid decision either way. Not using Kobe Bryant
should be the definition of stupid, in the basketball dictionary.

Not feeding your big man, when you have an advantage seems less than
smart.

A number of people barked at fans for being less than generous w/ Bynum
and being willing to trade him after 5 years and a cloud of smoke. But, how
silly would the Lakers be to have the best player in the NBA, one of the most
prolific scorers IN THE HISTORY of the NBA, & take shots away from
him and give them to a non-all star oft injured kid [ as they like to point out
his youth ] ???

I'm glad that none of us fans can implement any of our desires. :)

D fish is +60 over the last four games.

Tony Parker aside, I hold that it's still too early to prophesy about the Lakers' playoff situation. At the least, we should wait to see how they do in the upcoming "killer week" (March 6th - 12th.) This week we face Minnesota and Charlotte, but come Sunday and it's...

6th (Sun)-at San Antonio
8th (Tue)-at Atlanta
10th (Thu)-at Miami
and 12th (Sat)-at Dallas.

The Lakers win on this road trip, and I bet our chances are pretty good this endseason. Otherwise, without homecourt advantage...

Great lineup of games next week. The upcoming stretch will be a measuring stick for their ability to play at a high level on a consistent basis.

It doesn't matter if SA or DAL has Home Court Advantage over our Lakers, I'm more concerned about the East. I sincerely feel that we match-up pretty well against them.

Sorry, but the Spurs or the Mavs doesn't scare me a bit. Honestly. A little concerned about the Thunder, because we still don't know how Perk, Nazr & Nate will fit-in with the Thunder. That's about it in the West.

Our formidable opponents are from the EAST.

LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

**I sincerely feel that we match-up pretty well against them(SA/DAL).**

Checking in for the game day roll call! and I'm out!

Let's go Lakeshow!


LAKERS ALL DAY!!!

Tony Parker's injury means the Spurs may be interested in a recently waived player (Mike Bibby?) It means the Mavs will step up their intensity just a little bit more, and if they can pick up 3 or 4 games during the time Tony is out....those last dozen or so games will mean no rest for the Spurs or Mavs. Winner: the Lakers, who will be locked in at 3rd.

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@JOVBATZ44, LAKERS ALL DAY??? HELL YEAH LAKERS ALL DAY!!! Thank you for checking in sir and carry on!
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It means the Mavs will step up their intensity just a little bit more, and if they can pick up 3 or 4 games during the time Tony is out....those last dozen or so games will mean no rest for the Spurs or Mavs. Winner: the Lakers, who will be locked in at 3rd. Posted by: Big City Sid | March 01, 2011 at 06:30 AM
By God…Genius, sheer Genius!!!! Yes sir , Big City Sid, you hit the Nail on the Head!!!!
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The Lakers win on this road trip, and I bet our chances are pretty good this endseason. Otherwise, without homecourt advantage... Posted by: InDaFridge | March 01, 2011 at 02:32 AM
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Otherwise without homecourt advantage…I bet our chances are pretty good this season!! Get up, GET UP immediately and go get some Dr. Fatty’s tonic!! Do not get a cup, drink it straight down from the bottle! Good lord Fridge, we go throught this crap with the Lakers every year. Sir, sir , this is the 4 dynasty, 16 time Back-toBack NBA Champion, Freakin LA Lakers. Must we keep asking what have you done for me lately? How ever the Lakers, meaning Kobe and Phil want to play this run out , I’m down with them. Now stop reading and drink another shot of Dr.. Fatty’s tonic. Very good now…Carry On!
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ARISE MIGHTY LAKERS NATION!___ WE STILL GOT THIS! !! TRULY!!!
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GAME DAY BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYY - LAKERS vs. GRIZZLIES…LET’S RIDE AMIGOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LAKERS (42-19) vs. TIMBERWOLVES (13-46)_ 5:00 PM_ TV = KCAL_RADIO = 710/1330 ESPN
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Larry - PRESENT!!!
It's game day!
Looking forward to Minny tonight and seeing our beloved Laker Rambo!

Cheers - PLG

Mamba,

Present and accounted for....for game day. Let's make it five in a row baby!

Mamba24, we really got this unless they extend generosity to their ex players and coaches, Kurts Rambis. They did help Byron Scott image in Cleveland by making his team appear a contender in the East, so we also got this that they could extremely generous to below .500 teams. Lakers wants to save NBA during practice season. huh!

Larry - PRESENT!!! It's game day! Looking forward to Minny tonight and seeing our beloved Laker Rambo! Cheers – PLG Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | March 01, 2011 at 07:31 AM
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PsychedLakerGirl thank you for checking in, you Lakerholic you! Yes it will be nice to see Kurt but not his team who always play The Lakers close. I think Love will be going for the record for double/doubles either this game or the next so expect him to have a monster game. I expect this to be a very close game. Lakers by 5.

The Lakers haven't played Sota since early in the season. KLove dominated LO in the first Minny game. LO turned the tables and held him scoreless the second game. (That'll probably be the last time that'll happen in Love's career). Too bad we won't get a chance to see the rubber match today.

@Edwin - I respect coach K and Howland, but I’m not big on hiring a college coach for the NBA and especially not for these Lakers. Maybe if the team was in more of a transition or growth mode I’d be more open to it, but this team was built to win now. Therefore, I’d prefer coach Shaw since he’s familiar with the current system, the personalities of NBA players and the daily grind of the long NBA season.


@hobbit – Kobe is Kobe and should be the focal point of the offense. Pau, rightfully so, is second in the pecking order. Drew should get more touches when he plays like he has the last few games. Plus, Ron is too talented offensively not to get more opportunities. The way I see it the Lakers “problem” of having all these offensive weapons is a good thing.

@LRob, Edwin, Psyched, Thank you for checking in! I was beginning to wonder where the Heck Laker Nation was! Don’t they know it’s…GAME DAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carry on!

Speaking of killer week check out boston schedule the next 2 weeks. Don't get much tougher than that

Speaking of killer week check out boston schedule the next 2 weeks. Don't get much tougher than that Posted by: yellofever | March 01, 2011 at 07:51 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!!! THE HORROR!!!: Golden state, Milwaukee, Clippers, 76ers, Milwaukee, Nets, Pacers

@LRob, Edwin, Psyched, Thank you for checking in! I was beginning to wonder where the Heck Laker Nation was! Don’t they know it’s…GAME DAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carry on!

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LAKER NATION! RAWR! UNLEASH YOUR CACOPHONY OF WARRIOR BATTLE CRIES! WE GOT THIS, MAN!

Game Face - ON.

DVR - SET (just in case "the man" keeps me down).

Dinner - READY. Thank you, Mrs. DBDH!

Rage - YES!

Fury - YES!

Passion - CHECK.

Dr. Pepper - ON ICE, BABY.

Victory - IMMINENT.


[dbdh]

I LOVE THE SMELL OF ROLL CALL IN THE MORNING!!!

LEWSTRS present and accounted for...Checking in for Roll Call Baybee!!!

Game Day Haiku...

It's Laker Game Day
Five game winning streak I seek
One game at a time

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

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OH SWEET JESUS!! LOCK AND LOAD BABY, LOCK AND LOAD!!!
LAKER NATION...LET'S RIDE AMIGOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DBDH - Great list and I'm there.

JR

Posted by: LEWSTRS | March 01, 2011 at 08:07 AM
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Lewstrs Checking in, Good, Lewstrs Haiku, Better, Lewstrs enthusiasm…OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!! To steal my favorite line again…Laker Nation…LET’S RIDE AMIGO’S!!!!
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DBDH - Great list and I'm there.Posted by: Jolly Rancher | March 01, 2011 at 08:11 AM
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How could you not be there? A great LakerHolic like you!!Mount up immediately sir!!!

No to Bibby.

Mamba24, these next two weeks will test the "Lakers Grit" on who we really are? Are we serious for three peat or just for the show? Look at the coming match-ups:

Friday, Mar 4 Bobcats 10:30 pm SPSO FxW

Sunday, Mar 6 @Spurs 3:30 pm ABC

Tuesday, Mar 8 @Hawks 7:00 pm KCAL SPSO
Thursday, Mar 10 @Heat 8:00 pm TNT

Saturday, Mar 12 @Mavericks 8:30 pm KCAL FxSW
Monday, Mar 14 Magic 10:30 pm ESPN FxW

Most of these games are at home. If we win them all we really got this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQgPRmX_J4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQgPRmX_J4 Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 01, 2011 at 08:28 AM
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AW HELL YEAH!!! Edwin checking in with…THE SWAGGER!!!! GET DOWN WITH GUECO!!!!!

No on Bibby.

No on Murphy.

Maybe on Brewer.


DBDH!

LRob, you maybe right with Brian S. he has experience w/NBA players and the games compared to NC coaches, however he is not tested as a head coach. I don't know I just afraid of what happen to the Lakers when Randy Pfund took over after Pat Riley or Rambis/Hamblen got the chance to coach the high profiled players when R. Tomja quit at mid season. That is the reason I recommended a high profile Coach, one who is proven to be winner on the first tier, not a second fiddle. Besides, I just one fan who got tired of the evolution of the triangle and with show as the next coach will be a rerun of all this practice season. We want something excitement from Laker basketball at the dead of winter than watching Fisher walk the ball from back court. I'm reminded of the music of the Ventures - "Walk Don't Run", the era of electric guitars and drums while our triangle dribble, dribble, dribble up to the last second. lol!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIuIIqbyEIU

We want something excitement from Laker basketball at the dead of winter than watching Fisher walk the ball from back court. I'm reminded of the music of the Ventures - "Walk Don't Run", the era of electric guitars and drums while our triangle dribble, dribble, dribble up to the last second. lol! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIuIIqbyEIU Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 01, 2011 at 08:43 AM
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Now see, you’re going to have Magia32 laughing out loud again and people looking at him!!!!

@Edwin - I understand your concern with a coach with hiring a coach with no HC experience. I also know the triangle and pace that the Lakers play at can be "boring"....but that's how this team is built. It doesn't matter who the coach is this team will not be a more uptempo "entertaining" team with the existing personnel....with the exception of giving DEbanks some run.

BTW two good selections today. You surprised me with the Backstreet Boys. And of course, a little surfing flavor with the Ventures...is all good. Book Em Danno!

@frmkt, there is no way that Howard is the better center or low post player that Drew already is and what he will be under KAJ's tutelage. Howard has one or two moves and that's it. Drew is a much more active player and his bulk is harder to move than most centers in the league.

If I had the choice, give me Drew, even with all his injury concerns. He is still young and willing to learn as opposed to Howard who is nice, but not improving considering his time in the league. Maybe it's because of his lack of mentorship, but he just isn't getting to that next level that a player with his talents needs to get to, especially one that we hope to pin our hopes of a dynasty on after Kobe's skills decline.

We will be needing another young player to help out Drew after some of our current stars start to wear out, but I think that Mitch sees that and will answer that with the development of players like Ebanks and Caracter.


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