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Kobe Bryant, Robert Rodriguez talk about Black Mamba Nike ads, six-minute film

Kobe Bryant hadn't met Robert Rodriguez before he called him up on the phone last summer. But Bryant isn't known to be shy about much of anything.

Black Mamba poster His product team at Nike got Rodriguez's phone number and the man known as the Black Mamba dialed up the filmmaker.

Bryant wanted to recruit the groundbreaking filmmaker to direct a series of commercials for his new sneaker, the Nike Zoom Kobe VI.

Rodriguez said Sunday, at a press event at the Nike Vault, that he was in on the project from the first call.

Bryant, who scored 41 points in the Lakers loss to the Boston Celtics on Sunday, said Rodriguez is a filmmaker unlike any other, someone who could set the ads apart from other shoe commercials.

"I wanted it to kind of jump off the screen," Bryant said on Sunday of his vision for the ad campaign. "And there's nobody better to do it than Robert."

Bryant then called up rapper-producer Kanye West.

"He and I had something in the works a couple years ago with Nike that just never materialized, so the opportunity came up again and he and I always kind of talk back and forth," Bryant said of West.

And Rodriguez too made a couple of phone calls of his own.

One to Danny Trejo, the cult-film actor who has played villains and heroes in many of Rodriguez's movies, and another call into Bruce Willis.

But while Bryant knew West and Trejo were in, Willis was a pleasant surprise when the Lakers guard stepped on Rodriguez's makeshift L.A. set for two days of filming last off season.

EastLA_KobeVI "Bruce was -- that was a surprise to me," Bryant said of Willis. "I had no idea about that until I showed up and then I was like oh ... damn."

Rodriguez made a six-minute film, titled appropriately "The Black Mamba." West plays a villain known as the Boss, with Willis as his henchman. And the Boss wants Bryant's shoes.

In typical over-the-top Rodriguez style, Bryant ends up playing a game of basketball against Danny Trejo and a mutant-like defense, on top of a skyscraper in downtown L.A.

In the film, out of bounds mean falling off the roof. Holywood_KobeVI

The process of shooting the film in two days also fits with Rodriguez's method of making films at a lower-than-normal cost, quickly, using a lot of special effects to create environments that would otherwise take a lot of time and money to build.

Getting Bryant up to speed as a thespian wasn't a problem either, Rodriguez said.

"He can act because he just knows how to get in the zone," he said of Bryant. "You throw him the basketball, you better have the cameras running. You better have the cameras running because then you see him doing what we does best which is truly unbelievable."

Bryant said he saw parallels between acting and what he does on the hardwood.

OrangeCounty_KobeVI "It's always about the details and the passion for what you do and kind of letting things to flow naturally -- a lot of the same things I do on the court," Bryant said. 

 The film will air on TV during the NBA All-Star break, Bryant said, not offering details on what channels just yet.

Also being released around the All-Star Game, which will take place at the Staples Center on Feb. 19, will be a set of Zoom Kobe VI sneakers called the Neighborhood Pack. The pack, made up of three colorways of Bryant's shoe, represents different parts of the L.A. metropolitan area -- East L.A., Hollywood and Orange County.

The East L.A. shoe is drenched in Dodger Blue. The Hollywood Pack features a 3-D reptile print that pops out when viewed with a pair of old-school red-and-blue glasses that come with the kicks. And the OC shoe is orange with a translucent green sole -- printed with a yellow and orange sunset.

Bryant is hoping the ad campaign with Rodriguez will be something people remember and he might be looking to do more with the filmmaker.

"We'll see," he said. "Robert [and] I talked about doing something. But in terms of the spot itself having a sequel it's -- we may, we may not. We'll see."

-- Nathan Olivarez-Giles

Twitter.com/nateog 

Top video: Kobe Bryant talks about the project. Credit: Nathan Olivarez-Giles / Los Angeles Times

Bottom video: Kobe Bryant and Robert Rodriguez talk about the making of "The Black Mamba" film and ad campaign at a press event at the Nike Vault on Sunday. Credit: Nathan Olivarez-Giles / Los Angeles Times

Top image: "The Black Mamba" movie poster. Credit: Nike

Second image: Nike Zoom Kobe East L.A. Credit: Nike

Third image: Nike Zoom Kobe Hollywood. Credit: Nike

Bottom image: Nike Zoom Kobe OC. Credit: Nike

 
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I need two pair!!!

REPOST
Dude..It's obvious why Pau is playing so WEAK, he miss his LOVER SASHA!!!! Never discount the POWER of LOVE, he has a BROKEN HEART.

LakerTom,

we can certainly agree to end this conversation.

You've made it very clear that you don't agree with Phil Jackson.
You've made it very clear that you hold Kobe responsible for the lack
of assists.
Nowhere in your statements did you ever say that Bynum or Pau fought for
position nor did you say they didn't nor do you need to address it.

I want them All!!!!!!! They are mine all mine!!! NOW GIVE THEM TO ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am after all Mamba24 am I not? Then give them to me and give them to me NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes Mr. Laker I will see about getting 2 pair to you also!

Mamba24,

wait your turn!

@HOBBITMAGE... Thanks. Let’s try and keep from interpreting what each other says and stick with the quoted words themselves. That will eliminate misunderstandings that come from misinterpreting what each of us said or meant. We know we think differently and should not put words in each other’s mouths. Asking what you or I meant by what we said is fine but paraphrasing what one of us thinks the other said will only lead to laborious debates and misunderstandings. Let’s respect each other as friends and get together and raise a few brews when the NorCal fans get together. What do you say?
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TOM

Mamba24, wait your turn! Posted by: hobbitmage | January 31, 2011 at 04:26 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes sir but only because...You are my Idol...Carry On!

Hobbitmage, LakerTom, never fear, I Mamba24 will hook both of you up with a couple of pairs also! What the hell good is it being a Mamba if you can't get no freebies. I bet if my name was Justanothermambafan instead of plain old Mamba24 I could dozens of pairs, DOZENS I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@NUGGETS COUNTRY... Thanks for your comments. The irony of the trade would be that the Lakers ended up getting Carmelo Anthony for Kwame Brown with a couple of titles from Pau Gasol in between. No way are the Nuggets going to get a better offer than Pau. As it stands, they could end up getting nothing very easily. I think Kobe and Melo would be better complementary players than Wade and LeBron. Again, this is all predicated on the assumption that Gasol will not regain his previous level of play, something that I am starting to seriously think is unlikely to happen. 2 rings may be all Pau had in him. In his mind, that may be the heart of the problem because it definitely is mental. The Nuggets are up the creek without a paddle and like the Grizzlies may be ripe for the taking.
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TOM

Now LakerTom, HobbitMage I am only going to say this once. You both are my Idols and I don't play favorites. Now I want you to stop this! Stop it now! Then and only then shall I see about getting those shoes, but not until...Carry On!

@Mamba - nice call on the Wiz.

@Bay to LA - thanks for bringing a little sanity to the Pau for Melo trade talks.


@Nuggets - I'm on with the game. I can run a little pg, but I won't be driving the lane against you :-) Although I did play some pickup with Rick Mahorn a few years ago and if I bring him then its on...j/k.


@MVP - I think this is where the rubber meets the road as far as the record comparison with the Bulls teams go. I believe they all finished strong. I think the Lakers will still struggle some especially with the tough upcoming schedule.

@LakerTom & Hobbitmage - glad you both agree on something...hugs to both of you...

@mamba24 - can I have the OC shoe please? thank u =)

@Lew - come on out, come out, wherever you are!!!

@mamba24 - can I have the OC shoe please? thank u =)Posted by: iheartkb24 | January 31, 2011 at 04:36 PM
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IHeartKB24, for you, I'll get the whole damn store!!!! The only thing...Lew will probably beat me to it!!! LOL!!

"Zoom Kobe VI's"


Big boy.. Big boy.. Big boy


I said give me two pairs
(cause) I need two pairs
So I can get to stomping in my "Zoom Kobe VI's"
(Big boys) stomping in my "Zoom Kobe VI's"

@mamba24 - hahaha...Lew is MIA today...btw, can you make sure when you get the whole store KOBE is included?

LRob - nahhh - I was irritated at their play but not all worked up over the loss. Like I said, it's 1 of 82 - not a playoff game.

That said - they need to buck up for sure, but there's still lots of time. I ain't worried.

Folks I think Mr. Laker is Rolling so fast he aint ever going to stop. You hear that Rodriguez. Now get us our shoes!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@mamba24 - hahaha...Lew is MIA today...btw, can you make sure when you get the whole store KOBE is included? Posted by: iheartkb24 | January 31, 2011 at 04:44 PM
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Iheartkb24, yes Mamba24 can do a lot of amazing things but believe it or not, there are some things even a Mamab24 can't do. For that you need to call on the big wig Mambas like...JUSTANOTHERMAMABFAN!!! LOL!!

A FLY ON THE WALL HEARD THIS IMAGINARY CONVESATION...
............................................................
Jerry Buss calls Mitch Kupchak on the phone. Always looking for the big move, here is the talk:
...
JB: Hey, Mitch, I was reading that the Nuggets are desperate to trade Melo while they can get something in return. Sort of like the Grizzlies were desperate to trade Pau to reduce their overhead. Looks to me like this might be a chance to extend our championship window a few more years. How about giving them Pau, Luke, and Ron for Melo and Chauncey. This would solve the Derek Fisher problem and give us a duo of superstars to match LeBron and Wade. What do you think?
...
MK: Well, Jerry. I’ve been wondering the same recently. The Spaniard may be at the end of his rope. Word in the grapevine is that he is tired of banging and always having to play against physical guys. It’s possible that it’s time to consider cashing his chips in for a younger, tougher, more dynamic player whom Kobe can trust as our #2 option. And Chauncey definitely would solve the hole at point guard. Why don’t I give the Nuggets a call and see if they’re interested. It’s a better offer than NY or NJ.
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JB: I like it. I’ve been disappointed in Pau all season. He took off the summer but is playing like he needs a vacation and we’re only half way through the season. I talked to Kobe last night and he was livid about how poorly Pau was playing. When I asked him about trading him for Melo, he said something about shipping his ass our right now. I taped the call just in case we need to leak it.
...
MK: Nice move, boss. OK, let’s see if we can steal another superstar and turn Kwame Brown into Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups. If Kobe signs off, it’s a gamble that I think we should take.
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TOM

repost (hard for us old guys to find the newest post!):

"Again, this is all predicated on the assumption that Gasol will not regain his previous level of play, something that I am starting to seriously think is unlikely to happen. 2 rings may be all Pau had in him. In his mind, that may be the heart of the problem because it definitely is mental. The Nuggets are up the creek without a paddle and like the Grizzlies may be ripe for the taking.
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TOM


Posted by: LakerTom
"

Agree with all that. I hate soft players unless there is something major physically wrong, in which case they should be riding the pine in a suit.

Can't wait to get Matt back.

"@MVP - I think this is where the rubber meets the road as far as the record comparison with the Bulls teams go. I believe they all finished strong. I think the Lakers will still struggle some especially with the tough upcoming schedule.

Posted by: LRob | January 31, 2011 at 04:36 PM
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Also agree with that analysis, which is why we Lakers faithful are VERY worried.

I know there is a listen here. Not to panic, right? I'm not a professional athlete but I'll do my best not to freak out. We need these types of losses to get back to the top.


1,2, THREE, ring.

LakerTom

I'm sorry to see you "giving up" on the one player who is responsible for our instant success since 2007-08. Pau Gasol is without question Kobe's perfect running mate who, in my view, has run out of gas this season. I believe he WILL get a second wind and, just like the 2008 NBA Finals woke him up, perhaps yesterday's reality will have the same effect.

As far as I am concerned, Gasol deserves to have his number hanging in the Staples Center rafters when he retires and he deserves EVERY benefit of the doubt from the fans, whether or not we three-peat this season. His impact on the Lakers was more immediate than even Shaquille O'Neal, as it took him half a season to help get us to the NBA Finals with his perfect running mate, the experienced Kobe Bryant. He also provided us with instant chemistry with Lamar Odom, who you will recall looked lost in the Lakers system before Pau's arrival.

I grasp the concept that no one player is bigger than the team, but Pau remains one of the best all-around big men on the planet and the perfect player for Phil Jackson's system. Remember, it is STILL a big man's game. To give up on him for a player like Carmelo Anthony would be one of the biggest gaffes that Mitch Kupchak could make in my view. I don't know exactly what is wrong with Pau, but at 30 years old it is NOT his age, but could be something else health-wise. Let's pray that he regains his strength and his mojo.

And finally in a plea for pity it will be a 2 foot plus snowstorm in Chicago tomorrow and it will be so much easier getting around in a couple of pair of those Nikes!!!! JUSTA!!!! Talk to Rodriguez for me OK?

@TOM
It also helps that Carmelo and Kobe are already close. Some have said that it's an older brother/younger brother type of thing.

I like Pau a lot, but Melo would bring us some youth, energy, and HUNGER that is sorely missing.

Plus, Billups' game is tailor made for the triangle.

Do this Mitch!!!!!

NBA
Rank Player PTS
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
5. Shaquille O'Neal 28587
6. Moses Malone* 27409
7. Elvin Hayes* 27313
8. Kobe Bryant 27013

*=HOF

Next - 301 more! Just something to keep in mind when the next Lakers tragic game is being blown, but Kobe is going off!

Hey NuggetsCountry,
Some Lakers Faithful are very worried. Some of us are not. I think it has more to do with our individual personalities and outlooks than the way the team is actually playing. We all agree the team is slacking, loafing or otherwise playing pretty crappy most minutes of a 48 minute game. That said, it's not April, May or June yet. BUT - if they play like this in the playoffs, I'll change my tune LOL! Until then, I ain't worried. Just irritated.

Iheartkb24, yes Mamba24 can do a lot of amazing things but believe it or not, there are some things even a Mamab24 can't do. For that you need to call on the big wig Mambas like...JUSTANOTHERMAMABFAN!!! LOL!!

Posted by: mamba24 | January 31, 2011 at 04:48 PM

@mamba24 - you think Justa will let me have KOBE? Are you kidding me???...she will go JUSTA on me before that happens...HAHAHA!!!

@MVP - I think this is where the rubber meets the road as far as the record comparison with the Bulls teams go. I believe they all finished strong. I think the Lakers will still struggle some especially with the tough upcoming schedule.

Posted by: LRob | January 31, 2011 at 04:36 PM
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I agree. That's why I've been posting these records; for this very moment in history. The hope is that yesterday was the REAL wake-up call this team needed. If so, they may finally kick it into permanent gear and elevate their level of play. Am I optimistic about that after the clear beat down they took yesterday? No. But it was not long ago that they knew what it took to raise their level of play, so if any team is capable of elevating its game, it's the champs. So I am hopeful, but I think realistically 55 wins is an optimistic, realistic number at this point, maybe a little high.

justa.........

Agreed - I live on the glass half empty side of life........

Your 'irritated' for me is massive Tums quantity frustration mostly.

Just been through this too many times to ignore the signs at this stage. Which is why I love that at least for now I have Kobe, a potential GOAT to watch on game nights no matter what minimal bad he does occassionally. (Sidenote: A lot of his turnovers this and last season are due to his bad fingers. Others would not even play - true warrior indeed to borrow Ron-Ron's tag.)

Dinner time!

Pau Gasol stats:

07-08 18.8 pts, 7.8 rebs, 3.5 asts, 1.6 blk, 58.9% fg pct
08-09 18.9 pts, 9.6 rebs, 3.5 asts, 1.0 blk, 56.7% fg pct
09-10 18.3 pts, 11.3 rebs, 3.4 asts, 1.7 blk, 53.6% fg pct
10-11 18.3 pts, 10.5 rebs, 3.8 asts, 1.9 blk, 51.5% fg pct

The fg percentage has been declining but overall, the numbers don't really show a huge difference from year to year. He definitely seems a little off in the last few months, but it's strange that the numbers don't show it more.

@KobeMVP888

YES!!!!!!!!

LakerTom,

you wrote: Thanks. Let’s try and keep from interpreting what each other says and stick with the quoted words themselves. That will eliminate misunderstandings that come from misinterpreting what each of us said or meant. We know we think differently and should not put words in each other’s mouths. Asking what you or I meant by what we said is fine but paraphrasing what one of us thinks the other said will only lead to laborious debates and misunderstandings. Let’s respect each other as friends and get together and raise a few brews when the NorCal fans get together. What do you say?

my response:

1st. You're welcome.

2nd. *sigh* One of us doesn't seem to understand communication very well.
Let's try to get on the same page ...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communication

a : a process by which information is exchanged between individuals through a common system of symbols, signs, or behavior ; also : exchange of information

So. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN! Is that clear enough for
you? I'm *REALLY* trying to understand you. *REALLY*!

Is that clear enough for you?

Phil Jackson said: Kobe teammates did not want the ball. [ paraphrase.
I posted the link and the exact words he used. ] Therefore, he blamed
Kobe's teammates for the lack of assists that Kobe had.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lakers-286277-time-jackson.html

snippet:
Sunday, with everything slipping away late, it was vintage Lakers when at their big-game, ABC-televised worst. It was Bryant firing shot after shot while his teammates — in Jackson's words — "backed off."

A rematch against the hated Celtics, a renewal of the greatest rivalry in sports, a desperate fourth quarter with America watching, and all the Lakers but one "backed off?"

"I think he shot 12 straight times?" Jackson said. "Eleven or 12? I didn't think anybody else wanted the ball. ...A lot of times it didn't look like we were running anything out there offensively."

Nice, very nice.

"I think sometimes we fold into ourselves," Jackson continued, "and let him have too much space out there."

Two titles and three Finals trips and we're still dealing with this? Kobe and the Bystanders? And the Bystanders, in this case, weren't exactly innocent.

"When we play games like that," Lamar Odom said, "we give Kobe no choice but to try to take over the game."

You said: You disagree with Phil Jackson's words. From logic 101 that means:

NOT Phil Jackson's words. That means that you think Phil Jackson's words
are false according to standard logic which is the basis of all science & math.

This means that you do not blame Kobe's teammates for the lack of assists, but
instead blame Kobe. Which is exactly what you said when you said:

I don’t agree with Phil’s comments. I also don’t think that Phil really liked how Kobe played last night. I know you think Kobe is perfect and never deserves to be criticized but the reality of last night’s game was that Kobe failed to stay within the offense, never trusted his teammates, and got into a scoring competition with Paul Pierce that ended up stifling the Lakers offensively and leaving everybody standing around.

Now. You can either agree with Phil Jackson & Lamar that the team was
standing around doing nothing or you can disagree & blame Kobe. The
tape of the game clearly shows that the bigs are not in position and no offense
is being run. The question is why.

I work in IT for a living. That means that I say what I mean and I mean what
I say. That means that if I say: the server is in rack A, the server is in rack A.

I've tried to tell you what your words are meaning to me and instead of you
addressing that problem and expressing yourself more clearly, you say that's
not what I meant. And you get bent! You don't seem to understand that we
have different meanings for the same words and that's causing the confusion.

Example: you used the word(s) sub par.

def: sub·par (sb-pär)
adj.
1. Not measuring up to traditional standards of performance, value, or production.

from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/subpar

so ... If Bynum averages 15/7 and he get's 11/6 ... that fits the definition of
sub par. If Pau averages 20/10 and he gets 3/1 ... that also fits the definition
of sub par.

So instead of blaming Artest, D-Fish & Pau ... When I ask you if Bynum had
a sub par game against the Celtics?

You can say based upon 2009/2010, yes or based upon 2010/2011, no.

FYI, coming off of surgery he's averaging 11.6/7 which is nowhere near the
hyperbole that has floated on this blog regarding his dominant status.

re: grabbing a beer & watching a game. Are you sure you want to do this?
I ask because during the game, I'm going to ask you:

1. When did Bryant wave off the team?
2. When did Bynum alter a shot?

FYI, I have seen Bynum alter shots. 3 games ago, 7:45 in the 2nd quarter to
be precise.

I was really disappointed with the way our Lakers played yesterday - I was mostly disappointed at Gasol...after the game vs the Kings I really thought he will have a monster game against the greenies...boy, was I wrong...maybe there really is something bothering him, emotionally???...the way the Lakers played

Well, it's still too early for me to panic...so, I'm not panicking, not yet, just disappointed =(

C'mon LAKERS, no more excuses!!!...prove to us that you WANT the 3peat more than WE DO!!!!

Also agree with that analysis, which is why we Lakers faithful are VERY worried.

Posted by: NuggetsCountry | January 31, 2011 at 04:54 PM

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Nuggets - I'll have to quote DFish on that and say yes concerned...but still a long way to go in the process. No radical changes just yet...unless Orlando want to drop Dwight in our lap.


As far as Joe Smith goes...I think he's just a body. I was disappointed in that trade, but I understood the finances.

"Kupchak is concerned. He's considering trades:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/31/lakers.kupchak/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 31, 2011 at 05:08 PM "

I'm anxious to see if anything happens but I would think any trade would have to include Odom or Bynum. Despite what I'm reading on this blog, I really think Pau is still off limits and Kobe and Fisher are Lakers for life.

Artest and Walton are common trade rumors in here but both are unlikely to be trade assets since they've been ineffective and have so much time and money left on their contracts. Matt Barnes and Shannon Brown may have minimal interest but have low salaries so even if they add in the trade exception from the Vujacic deal the salary match would limit what they could get in return.

They might just have to go with what they have and hope for the best.

Kupchak is concerned. He's considering trades:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/31/lakers.kupchak/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 31, 2011 at 05:08 PM

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Mitch is sending the squad a message...its time to focus or you could be playing for a non-contender when you wake up tomorrow.

NBA
Rank Player PTS
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
5. Shaquille O'Neal 28587
6. Moses Malone* 27409
7. Elvin Hayes* 27313
8. Kobe Bryant 27013

*=HOF

Next - 301 more! Just something to keep in mind when the next Lakers tragic game is being blown, but Kobe is going off!

Posted by: NuggetsCountry | January 31, 2011 at 04:59 PM

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Nuggets...what no love for the ABA from the old school in Denver of all places??? C'mon Bobby Jones, DT Skywalker, My Detroit homie and India Arie dad, Ralph Simpson, Issel, Byron Beck, Mack Calvin...coach Brown.


NBA/ABA
Rank Player PTS
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
5. Julius Erving 30026
6. Moses Malone* 29580
7. Shaquille O'Neal* 28587
8. Dan Issel* 27482
9. Elvin Hayes* 27313
10. Kobe Bryant 27013
*=HOF

I think Mitch is trying to scare people. Who is he going to trade? Pau? That would be crazy. I don't think anyone would want Ron or Fish... I'm just saying... Drew? I don't think so. Kobe? No. Lamar? No. I am sure he would love to get Melo - as would every other general manager in the league. What are you going to give Denver? Drew? Pau? Drew hasn't proved himself yet. I don't think they would take him. Trading Pau is crazy. Does anyone remember life before Pau? Not good... Melo is not a good defender...

I guess I don’t advocate a trade at this time. The triangle is too tough a system to throw at someone and have them instantly thrive. Pau seems to be the only exception to this rule. If we could get Melo and Chauncy for Luke, Ebanks, Smith, Caracter, and Ratliff, I would pull the trigger… ;-) Ain’t gonna happen… Even if we throw in Fish… ;-) I can’t see trading anyone else this late in the season.

Pau - I am not sure what is going on with him, but when Kobe starts to go off he sulks. He is like, “OK, forget rebounding and defending because I am not having any fun.” In a way, I agree with him that Kobe shouldn’t do that. I also feel that if everyone had “maned” up and put it in overdrive when Kobe did his thing we would have won on Sunday. As bad as the old team was, at least they knew when Kobe goes on fire it was their job to get rebounds and defend so as not to waste his incredible offensive effort. Lamar knows this. He plays well when Kobe is doing his thing. The rest of the team… not so much…

Drew – Played against Shaq very well. He played gimpy in the second half. I hope he is OK.

Ron – Ron Ron, where for art thou? Where did you go? Who is this guy you stuck us with that can’t defend? It is a like a bad episode of the Twilight Zone. Will the real Ron please stand up? 1 for 10? Really? You use to be the leading scorer on other teams. Phil has been trying… Is it too hard to run up and down the court with a huge bug up your ass? Where is your psychiatrist when we need him? You won us over with your tough play on Paul last year. We hate that whiney SOB. You’re losing us dude…

Fish – I don’t know what to say. One second he is driving on Shaq and the rest of the seconds – 1 for 6. Rondo had 16 assists and Fish had… 2. Of course it is hard for anyone to get an assist when Kobe shoots 11 times in a row without passing the ball once.

Lamar – dumb mistake, but great game. If you had played 38 minutes and took twice as many shots, we might have won.

Kobe – You have to play team ball. Dropping 41 on the Celtics is cool. Losing is very un-cool. Losing at home on national TV against the Celtics with Matt Damon grinning and gloating…. very, very un-cool.

Nevertheless…

I am a Lakerholic.

Trade Gasol, the second most important Laker for three straight finals teams, because he's in a slump? Are you people out of your mind?

Mitch is sending the squad a message...its time to focus or you could be playing for a non-contender when you wake up tomorrow.

Posted by: LRob | January 31, 2011 at 05:34 PM
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Exactly.

Gasol for Gasol...........again..........?

Lakerholic

Great post at 05:53 PM. I think you're read is 100% correct.

LAKER TRUTH

I know you don't want me to respond to your posts, but I agree 100% with your post at 05:53 PM 100% as well. We three-peat or fall short with Pau.

i'll say it again.......lakers need a point guard who can penetrate and get some easy baskets for himself and the bigs. not to mention guard the other teams point guard more than once a game


@KOBEMVP889 ET AL…
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So where does LakerTom stand? Do I still think the Lakers are going to three-peat? Do I still trust Kobe Bryant? Do I really want to trade Pau Gasol? Let me set the record straight: yes, yes, and yes. Let me elaborate on the answers in reverse order.
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DO I WANT TO TRADE PAU GASOL. YES! I’ve been a loyal and supportive Lakers fan for 40 years and I’ve rarely espoused trading players when you have a winning team. I’ve instead trusted that our owner, general manager, and coach were better placed to judge the value of players than others. I’m encouraged by Mitch’s comments about possibly making a trade. I seriously think a Gasol, Walton, and Artest for Melo and Chauncey trade could fly, providing Melo would sign an extension. It’s a unique opportunity similar to that which netted us Pau in the first place. The Nuggets need to make a deal in 24 days or they risk getting zero in return for one of the biggest stars in the league. For the Lakers, Melo gives Kobe a true second super star and Chauncey solves the huge point guard issue, with the Lakers becoming a much tougher, more athletic, and younger team. It extends our window.

I also admit to being pretty harsh on the negative bloggers who continued to point out the flaws and concerns with this team. But the recent play of Pau Gasol, Ron Artest, Derek Fisher, and Steve Blake have forced me to reconsider my level of confidence in these players. I think I overrated this team. You cannot win against elite teams when you have so many weak links. And to me, the source of the problem is undoubtedly Pau Gasol because he is our #2 scorer and supposed second super star. The tenor of the league has changed and the increased physicality that we are seeing all around the league has not favored Pau’s game. Frankly, he would do much better in a run-and-gun Dantoni style game where you don’t have to play defense and can get a lot more touches. The half court power ball game that the Lakers play and that every team has now loaded up to matchup is not Pau’s best suit.

Everybody talks about how tough Pau was against the Celtics last year but they forget that he was playing against a 1-legged and hobbled KG. In a way, that’s why Pau’s sudden toughness was really fool’s gold. It was not honestly earned and as we saw yesterday, the real KG has little respect for Pau and treated him that way on the court. Pau’s lack of fire and hunger has finally caught up with him. Even if he played like the 2010 Finals Pau, I think KG would have no problem handing him. That’s why I think it is time to trade him – or at least scare him into caring and playing tougher.
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DO I STILL TRUST KOBE BRYANT. YES! Kobe is the ultimate weapon of destruction. He is the true beast in the NBA, the most relentless and driven player since Michael Jordan. And he has become one of the smartest players in the game. But he is not perfect and like all great superstars there are times when they have to just do their thing regardless of how it affects the team. Sometimes he has to just let it go. I think Kobe does a masterful job of balancing his drive to score and dominate with his need to share the ball and show the mature leadership he knows is critical to a championship team. He just let the poor play get to him and figured he should just try and win it by himself. In a way, it was Kobe’s way of letting his teammates know what he thinks. You can do that occasionally but in the end, Kobe needs to be the facilitator and guy who makes everything go if this team is to win it all.
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DO I THINK THE LAKERS ARE GOING TO THREE-PEAT. YES! Mainly because it appears that Jerry and Mitch do not intend to let the chance to three-peat slip away. More importantly, I think Jerry is the kind of owner who is thinking beyond this year and the chance to steal Melo and Chauncey for Pau and a couple of players is exactly the type of gamble that he would love to pull off. He gets a stronger, tougher, younger, more physical and athletic team and a bigger title window. Pau better turn it around quick or he’s going to be playing in Denver in March. Make the move, Mitch.
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TOM

PompousTom-

Congrats on your new starting pitcher ... Freddie Garcia!

Thats ... Mark Prior, Bartolo Colon and Freddie Garcia. Next ... Gil Meche! LOL!!!

LakerTom

While the Celtics and Spurs have experienced excellent health overall this season, are clearly hungrier than the Lakers and are much better basketball teams right now, I feel very strongly that ANY trade involving a major player, especially our second most important player, will DESTROY any chances of a three-peat regardless of who we get in return.

Breaking up the 4-5 combination of Gasol-Odom-Bynum is a recipe for disaster. Because you have watched this game for so long, you know that a major trade at or near the deadline will alter team chemistry in a negative way unless it's pulling off the kind of deal that landed us Pau Gasol in the first place.

This team has been to three consecutive NBA Finals and the other elite teams in the NBA have had enough of it so they are giving that extra effort to reclaim their territory. It's the nature of things. The answer isn't to trade our core players and pray that it works out; the answer is to fix the problems internally. The way things look right now at THIS moment in time, it is VERY clear that the Lakers need to do some drastic to get back to that upper echelon to which they are accustomed. It is beyond small tweaks and baby steps. It's what Phil Jackson is paid the big bucks for. If things can't be fixed internally in time, we lose and have had a phenomenal run. If the Lakers make a trade, kiss the three-peat good-bye and who knows what the future holds. But you DO NOT trade Pau Gasol. That, my friend, is the biggest mistake the Lakers could make short of trading Kobe. In fact, with Kobe's huge contract, if you want to build for the future, well there's your best bargaining chip.

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So as long as were venting and having fun, what would you think of Pau for Kevin Love, Darko and the rights to Ricky Rubio? :)

dodger blue huh?? odes that mean the mccourts get a peice of the action.... wont buy those, just in case!! Sorry Kobe
These are way better than those martian Adidas he sold a few years back

LakerTom

"While the Celtics and Spurs have experienced excellent health overall this season"

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 31, 2011 at 07:50 PM

Do you actually follow the NBA or do you like to just write about it because youre bored?

The Celtics have experienced excellent health overall this season? Really? Youre kidding? Please say that was a joke!!!

@KOBEMVP888… I could live with that trade too but I still think the right move would be for Carmelo and Chauncey. I’m also not sold on Rubio. What appeals to me with Carmelo and Chauncey is that it would immediately extend our championship window and make us tougher and younger and more athletic. You have to believe that Jerry Buss is thinking about it and Pau has been the problem. I hope he will straighten up and turn it around but even the Pau from the Finals is not going to be able to handle a healthy KG. I have to believe that Buss and Kupchak and Jackson all are seeing the same thing. The guy is coasting and shirking from contact. I saw Phil screaming at him to get down the court on defense after he stood there complaining to the ref after being stripped. Like the Patriots always do, sometimes it’s better to get rid of a player before he really costs you a title. Thinking outside the box, we can offer Denver the best deal they could ever hope for and make a big splash. I for one would not be surprised to see this turn into reality. Kobe, Chauncey, Melo, Lamar, and Drew. That is one hell of a starting lineup and I think better than Kobe, Fisher, Artest, Gasol, and Bynum.
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TOM

@Outlaw – Excellent post in previous thread.

@Truth – you spoke the Truth @ 5:53pm

@MVP – Agree at 7:50pm

@LakerTom – And just how will this trade help the Lakers defense?

Hey everyone. Just wanted to give a heads up: There should be a lengthy post up within the next hour or so. Sorry for the delay in posts. I just had something in depth that will definitely be worth the read.

@LakerTom - I apologize for the negligence. Can you tell me again which handles to give your email to? I'm not sure if I have all of them

LT

The Nuggets would never do that. They want to get younger, not older, and also want draft picks. I can see them taking pause being offered one of the world's best big man who is only 30, but realistically it won't make them an elite team. So fuhgetaboutit. What are we going to do, throw in our great rookies to make in interesting? lol! But you know me! I DEFER to Mitch Kupchak.

The Celtics have experienced excellent health overall this season? Really? Youre kidding? Please say that was a joke!!!

Posted by: 131-92 | January 31, 2011 at 07:57 PM
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Good point. Excellent health for the Spurs and reasonably good health for the Celtics. They have been without Rondo for a spell, KG for a bit, Jermaine, Shaq here and there, the great DeLonte West and I think Pierce for a few games, so I stand corrected. Perkins just came back and the thrid string center has a bum shoulder. Your team is playing its best basketball since 2008 and I commend the entire organization for what they are doing right now even in the face of a rash of injuries. Maybe if the Lakers were as hungry as your crew, we'd be playing better basketball. It's shame we won back-to-back titles while you guys got knocked out in the second round in 2009 and then got beat in Game 7 last June after blowing a 13 point lead. But that's good for you guys because you're hungrier than us and who cares about what happened in June, right? Yesterday's practice season game was your Game 7.

Lookin' forward to the Black Mamba's film...I'm somewhat of a Rodriguez fan(luv'd 'Sin City').

Now about yesterday's game...tho' I was disappointed with the L,as always,I'm not overly concerned. The Ls simply don't play well at home against the elite teams but, it does seem that the F/O IS concerned, enough to express the possibility of a trade. I'm not sure how serious they are but, I really don't think a trade is necessary and it could just be the FO's way of tryna light a fire under the team's collective arses. At any rate, whatever they decide to do I hope it works out for the best but, it's still too early in the season to start panicking.

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

If it were at all possible, if there was one team he can win a championship with: Steve Nash. 99% IMPROBABLE.If only.

KG and the Celts showed up and said you posers have something that belongs to us and then proceeded to kick the Lakers in the balls.

Pau can't hang with KG unless KG is playing on one leg like last June

Yesterday's practice season game was your Game 7.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 31, 2011 at 08:31 PM

Anytime we spank the Lakers on National TV is our Game 7.

I think the practice season is starting to get to Laker Nation! LOL!

But anyways, sorry for calling you out. Stay strong and dont let facts get in the way of your next post.

131,

Is there a Celtic Blog? Even though I have always been a Laker fan, my dear Mother was a large Celtic fan (Larry Bird)! Oh yeah, we didn't get along very well, ha, ha.

131,

Is there a Celtic Blog? Even though I have always been a Laker fan, my dear Mother was a large Celtic fan (Larry Bird)! Oh yeah, we didn't get along very well, ha, ha.

Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | January 31, 2011 at 09:12 PM

Im sure they do but I cant help you with the site.

I get much more entertainment on this one. Where else can you read things like "the Celtics have experienced excellent health overall this season?" You cant even make things like that up!

Anytime we spank the Lakers on National TV is our Game 7.

Posted by: 131-92 | January 31, 2011 at 09:07 PM

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I guess that sums it up right there. That means you won THREE Game 7's to our one last June! Congratulations!!

LakerTom

You have finally crossed over. Congratulations. Your revelation about considering trading Pau for Melo shows an evolution of thinking outside the box that myself and many others can truly appreciate and quite honestly are a little astounded by.

I for one want Melo badly, he is arguably one of the 5 best players in the league.
Your quote "Melo could be a real chance to add some youth and toughness to the team' is right on and let me add his scoring prowess just seals the deal, almost.

To make the trade you have to believe that Andrew Bynum will stay relatively healthy. That is a big leap of faith. If Bynum goes down the lakers go down for all intents and purposes

A huge gamble, a gamble only a real gambling owner makes.
Blogger Sean thinks Denver wouldn't do the deal because it gives "A lineup full of bigs and no viable perimeter offense." That's erroneous thinking. I bet Denver would jump at the chance to land Gasol, a Gasol that many on this blog here believe is Mr. 1B to Kobe's 1A. A Nene, Gasol combo would be formidable. It's not like Chris Anderson is going to give him competition.

So for fantasy sake, Say Denver is very interested in Pau, the Nuggets can't get anything better and that's a given. Now you Wheel and Deal if you are Mitch Kupchak.

For starters you cannot include Luke Walton into any trade deal, no GM in their right mind would be able to justify that move unless there is an agreement for Luke to retire.

The best move is for the Lakers to deal Pau, Artest, and Fisher for Melo and Billups.

The Nuggets might bite on this worm because...
1. They get what many on this blog say is the best Power Forward in the league.
2. A defensive specialist with a quirky demeanor that only George Karl could love (see Gary Peyton, Shawn Kemp)
3. A distributing veteran point guard who leadership qualities are well documented. OK I'm playing car salesman right now.

The Lakers get Melo, hello Carmelo Anthony. Remember him? Led Syracuse to their first National Title as a Freshman. Third pick in the 2003 draft behind Lebron James and ahead of Dwayne Wade. By the way, anyone remember the #2 pick?

And to top it off, the Lakers get Chauncey Billips. Big shot Billips. That gives the Lakers 3 players who can put it in the hole on a regular basis.

Of course we are talking fantasy here but what a fantasy.

I would also take the straight up deal.

This trade talk has been generated by the attitude and questionable work ethic that Pau Gasol has shown for the last 25 games. Especially the last 2 games with Gasol being punked by Dalambert (or was that Delbert) and the Boston bigs.
However the whole Laker team with the exception of Kobe has been lethargic to say the least for most of the season. Bloggers who feel that Gasol and the Lakers will pull themselves together are justified in their thinking, after all they are the 2-time defending champs. But it is always better to deal too soon than too late. Again, any trade made must be done with the expectation of a healthy Andrew Bynum. Without Bynum the Lakers chances of winning a championship are greatly diminished but they would be great entertainment along the lines of Miami Heat.

79-83 and 2009 Round Two exit losing Game 7 in Boston (aka 131-92)

Is there something about the word "overall" that you don't understand? That means that your Big Three Hall of Famers have been relatively healthy this season. Besides, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong and I did. Your team is better than ours right now. I admit that, too. Unfortunately, right now means nothing. I'm sorry, wht am I saying! "Every time we spank the Lakers on National TV is our Game 7". ROFLMAO! Man, you folks in Beantown need a life if that's how you feel. Yeesh. Please stay right here with those comments. That way I won't have to go to a Celtics blog to read that comedy.

Hurry up MM, waiting for that next post!

Is there something about the word "overall" that you don't understand? That means that your Big Three Hall of Famers have been relatively healthy this season.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 31, 2011 at 09:37 PM

No, I didnt know that was the meaning of "overall." I thought "overall" meant the whole team. Im sorry ... my bad.

One question ... what if a team doesnt have a Big Three? Does the meaning of "overall" change? If so, what does it mean then?

these ads a just going to rock. good to see the paring of two great talents, one sporting and one creative - the combination is Nike Black Mamba.

"Nuggets...what no love for the ABA from the old school in Denver of all places??? C'mon Bobby Jones, "

YES! ABA was the best. Loved the innovative ball. My kids had to have it. Bobby Jones was great above the rim and tough defender - all business. Almost nobody keeps the ABA in their stats sight anymore. Dr. J etc.

Prepare yourself fellow antacid users: 19-15 is very possible the rest of the way, looking at the rest of the schedule! And the front end of that will look worse.......

Prepare yourself fellow antacid users: 19-15 is very possible the rest of the way, looking at the rest of the schedule! And the front end of that will look worse.......

Your the man Kobe. I would enjoy watching you perform on the silver screen. Hollywoods next Bro.

Wait after a 3peat.

Good Luck Kobe.

Are you telling me that Pau (+ Artest/Luke anyone else for cap) for Melo would be unreasonable? Nuggets get a high quality Power Forward who could be an instant threat with Chauncey.

Lakers get a scorer who can take the load off of Kobe. I know people are saying Melo doesn't play defense, but I've been noticing a trend of Pau getting fouled (or not), throwing up his hands and losing the ball, and not running back on defense.

A starting lineup of Bynum, Odom, Anthony, Bryant, and Fish would be devastating. You could get some use out of Artest off the Bench with Artest @ the 3 or 4 (he's too slow to play speedy guards...but annoying enough to get in the way of the Big Baby's of the world)...Matt Barnes at the 3 or 2, Shannon Brown, and Blake.

We got Joe Smith and Theo Ratliff when needed

It's all up to the Nuggets. They have 11 more days to consider my offer. Mitch sit back and relax. I got this.

Robert Rodridguez and Kanye West?

I won't waste me time with this video. It's got to suck.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

what would be the value of pau for mello?.we NEED BIGS!!. mello has his own ego and frankly this would be a move sideways. also, what happened to pau's shot. remember?? that sweet shot that at times didn't look like it could go in, and it did!! a deserved lack of confidence in his whole game. it doesn't look like fun for him or any of the lakers.i think that it would do them well to get their heads handed to them this week and next and come back from the all-stars with a greater sense of urgency

Jon K SUCKS

Jon K SUCKS

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