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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 120-91 victory over Utah Jazz

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There will be a live chat today at 12:30 p.m. Bring your questions! One of them likely will entail why Utah guard Deron Williams feels like the only thing he can do to stop Kobe Bryant is to tug on his jersey, making for a pretty good photo caption contest. 

Game stories

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan details the Lakers' dominance in their 120-91 victory Tuesday over the Utah Jazz.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding believes the Lakers are peaking at the right time.

--The Riverside Press Enterprise's David Lassen notices the Lakers' dominance at home against Utah has become too routine.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Brian T. Smith details the depressed mood the Jazz has been in lately.

--The Daily Breeze's Elliott Teaford credits the Lakers' teamwide effort.

Sidebars

--The Times' Bresnahan talks to Lakers assistant coach Brian Shaw, who would like to see more toughness from the team.

--The Times' Broderick Turner credits Steve Blake's performance.

--AOL Fanhouse's Sam Amick talks to Hornets forward Trevor Ariza about leaving the Lakers.

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr notes Jerry West's conversation with Dan Patrick, in which West said he wasn't criticizing the Lakers' defense.

--The Riverside Press Enterprise's Lassen explains why Phil Jackson likes the Lakers' progress lately.

--Hoopsworld's Eric Pincus highlights the Lakers' improved play.

--Sports Illustrated's Britt Robson pits the Lakers at No. 3 this week.

--The Daily Breeze's Teaford sizes up Andrew Bynum's All-Star chances.

Columns

--The Times' T.J. Simers talks to Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak, who objects to Jerry West's contention that the Lakers are too old. Simers also says Kupchak doesn't disagree with his assessment that the Lakers' initial struggles pointed to Phil Jackson.

--The Times' Mark Heisler believes West's comments fired up the Lakers.

--ESPN.com's J.A. Adande looks at Andrew Bynum's resurgence.

--The Riverside Press Enterprise's Gregg Patton takes issue with West's belief that the Lakers are too old.

Blogs

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky breaks down the Lakers' victory over the Jazz.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin lists 10 things to take away from the Lakers' win over Utah.

--NBA.com's Sekou Smith believes the Lakers and Celtics are fairly similar.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell details the game in a running diary.

--Silver Screen and Roll's Saurav A. Das believes Utah didn't even try against the Lakers.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Darius Soriano doesn't understand how the Lakers could dominate Utah by that much.

Relive Lamar Odom's circus shot:

Tweet of the Day: "Jerry West on DP show "shocked if @Lakers don't make Finals" -- DuranLA (710 ESPN's Beto Duran)

Reader Comment of the Day: "So to all you people who were whining about the Lakers' loss to Miami back on Christmas, while some of was were saying it ain't that big a deal? NOW is when games start to become much more important. We're now more than halfway through the season and coming into the home stretch of the season. After the All-Star break, it will become even more important to establish a level of dominance on both ends of the court. But the Lakers have a string of games coming up that could set the tone even before the break. The first half of February, the Lakers face New Orleans (winners of 9 straight at this point), New York, San Antonio, Orlando, and Boston twice. Plus their long road trip includes games against Memphis, Charlotte, and Cleveland in that time stretch. If the Lakers fare well between now and the All-Star break (especially if they can beat the Spurs, Orlando, and Boston), then it will set a tone that they're closer to being ready for the playoffs. If they screw it up, it doesn't mean all hope is lost or anything... but compared to a few games in December when Bynum was out or just getting his pre-season on, it would be a much worse indicator if the Lakers did poorly in this next stretch. Can't wait for the Boston game on Sunday." -- LongTimeLakerFan

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant is grabbed by Utah guard Deron Williams as he drives to the basket during the first half of the Lakers' 120-91 victory Tuesday at Staples Center. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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Here's what I sent to the NBA League Office under the subject "Business of the NBA" (They didn't have an All-Star subject choice.):

"WE WANT BYNUM FOR THE ALL-STAR GAME 2011. Yao's no longer. Bynum has the most votes of all Western Conference centers. WE WANT BYNUM! The Fans Have Voted!"

LongTimeLakerFan - congrats!

@LTLF.... Congratulations on another Friedman. It’s great to see this team finally starting to get it together and play some serious defense. By the Finals, with a healthy Drew, this Lakers team has a chance to be their best defensive championship team.
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TOM

Last night is a good illustration of what I don't understand about this team. They were moving the ball well and making their outside shots early and continued to do this throughout the game and the result was exactly what they wanted. Seems easy enough, right?

So why do they typically panic and eliminate ball movement once a few shots miss? And why do they seem to put much more effort toward defense when they're up 20-25 compared to when it's a close game? Granted you can't expect to shoot 60%+ every night but I see no reason for the fundamental approach to change.

Obviously the sky is the limit if this type of play is something they can sustain but I remember them playing like this in those first 8 games when just about everyone was on a hot streak offensively. Once a few of those hot streaks dried up, they resorted to an individualized approach that made them a .500 team for about a month or so.

I always enjoy watching a Jazz beatdown at the hands of the Lakers. A Celtic beatdown would be real sweet.

Go Lakers!
Go AZTECS! Beat BYU!

"It's the only way I'm gonna get a Game-Used Kobe Jersey, but I'm not so sure that he will sign it after the game!" D-Williams

@Triangulator - I also sent an email to the league office...WE WANT BYNUM!!! I also WANT Lamar...I've been voting for him nonstop...

@MM - I'm liking your new haircut...i told the peeps on the renegade chat that you are SO much better looking in person than in photos...teehee =)

@SCOTTIE PIMPIN... “drew is playing well but he's no all star. I'd rather they let another power forward in over drew, namely Lamar Odom.”
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If the Lakers only have three all-stars, then definitely Lamar Odom is more deserving. In fact, I think he is more deserving than Pau Gasol. My issue with Drew is that he should get a start because NBA fans have voted him as the top center in the West since Yao obviously cannot play. Why should the commissioner be able to overrule the fans? That is not fair. The fans are supposed to select the starters and they have selected Drew clearly as the #2 center. Not to mention that the damn game is at Staples.
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TOM

DR:

LRob

I had something, then I changed my mind cuz it didn't feel quite right. I'll go with Albert King I guess, because the Lakers are starting to Funk Shun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe-6t-Tfx5o

Posted by: Mark G | January 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM

@BAY TO LA... “Last night is a good illustration of what I don't understand about this team. They were moving the ball well and making their outside shots early and continued to do this throughout the game and the result was exactly what they wanted. Seems easy enough, right?
...
So why do they typically panic and eliminate ball movement once a few shots miss? And why do they seem to put much more effort toward defense when they're up 20-25 compared to when it's a close game? Granted you can't expect to shoot 60%+ every night but I see no reason for the fundamental approach to change.
...
Obviously the sky is the limit if this type of play is something they can sustain but I remember them playing like this in those first 8 games when just about everyone was on a hot streak offensively. Once a few of those hot streaks dried up, they resorted to an individualized approach that made them a .500 team for about a month or so.
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The main thing that I find fans don’t take enough into consideration when evaluating differences between the Lakers performances from game to game are the matchups.
While it has become a cliché in many ways, the NBA is still all about the matchups. And Andrew Bynum is the sure fire x-factor that changes all the matchups for the Lakers.
...
For the first 8 games in the season, with Drew still recovering from his surgery, most of the front court matchups favored Pau playing center and he excelled. Then came a stretch of games where the center matchups did not favor Pau and the team struggled. However, now with Drew finally starting, the matchups once again favor the Lakers, which is a big reason why the team has gone 12-3 since Drew returned as the starter.
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In many ways, I also thought Kobe was more intent on working back into shape during the first half of the season than necessarily winning games. There were times when he broke the offense in order to test his knee and his ability to take over the game. Now that we are approaching the second half of the season, Kobe is finally feeling comfortable enough to start to focus on getting everybody involved and playing more efficiently. His 55% shooting percentage in the last eight games is as big a reason for the team winning as Andrew’s protecting of the paint and rim. And we cannot ignore, the great play by Lamar Odom off the bench. Unlike prior years, coming off the bench has not hurt LO’s game one iota. The guy is having a career year and that bodes well for the Lakers.
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That this team is built for the playoffs is not an easy excuse but the reality of the NBA. All the speedy teams who manage to steal a regular season game by running on the Lakers will find a different environment entirely when the real season starts and life in the fast lane slows to a crawl. Then, Derek Fisher and Ron Artest become huge assets and Kobe’s clutchness and Drew, Pau, and Lamar’s length become dominating factors.
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TOM

@LTLF – Congrats on RCOTD. I remember that panic stricken day well.

@Utz – You’re right, I meant to say June. Thank you….and carry on with your Oscar duties. Will you give us a glimpse of your predictions?

@Mark G – One of the three “Kings” always works.

@Lew – Great message. This must be Aussie love day…lol. 63 Footer checked in earlier with a throwback Aussie selection.


@ hobbit – Good day indeed.
No helicopter looking for a murder
Two in the morning got the Fat burger

LTLF

Worthy RCOTD! Congrats!

Jerry West offers clarification....(link above)


“I’m shocked that someone wouldn’t think the Lakers can defend. I fully expect them to be back with a championship this season, with all due deference to San Antonio and the incredible job Greg Popovich and the organization has done down there.”
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The only problem I had with Jerry's original comments was him saying, "I don't think the Lakers will be good for much longer". I think the Lakers will tweak their lineup and continue to be a championship threat for the next 5yrs.

Didn't Lamar Try to Warn B Griffin?

Have NBA players tired of seeing Blake Griffin’s nightly dunk contest? After B Haywood fouled him last night in Dallas, will Griffin slow his roll and be more selective/cautious dunking in the future or will he continue as in the past without regard to circumstances below the rim? Haywood’s foul wasn’t particularly hard, but it sent Blake to the floor on his elbow. Blake merely got up and directly went to the free throw line without even a backward a glance toward Haywood. Skip Bayless @ESPN says during his college play in OK, the Big 12 book on Blake was you got to hit him “hard early” to drop “his RPM,” and when that occurred Blake’s “big brother Taylor had to come in to defend him” because Blake would back off and not fight back “under any circumstances.” After last night's foul, Blake wore a protective sleeve on his arm and didn’t do much else in the remainder of the game. Maybe the best thing for Blake is today the NBA doesn’t have enforcers like Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn or Tom Heinsohn -- who in the day wouldn't stand around just observing opposing players like Blake! Any truth to the rumor Knick Timofey Mozgov sent a thank you note with a large gift card to Haywood? Lamar tried to warn Griffin -- apparently to no avail.

Last night is a good illustration of what I don't understand about this team. They were moving the ball well and making their outside shots early and continued to do this throughout the game and the result was exactly what they wanted. Seems easy enough, right?

So why do they typically panic and eliminate ball movement once a few shots miss? And why do they seem to put much more effort toward defense when they're up 20-25 compared to when it's a close game? Granted you can't expect to shoot 60%+ every night but I see no reason for the fundamental approach to change.

Obviously the sky is the limit if this type of play is something they can sustain but I remember them playing like this in those first 8 games when just about everyone was on a hot streak offensively. Once a few of those hot streaks dried up, they resorted to an individualized approach that made them a .500 team for about a month or so.

Posted by: Bay to LA | January 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM
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Typical. Even when you painstakingly go out of your way to offer a few words of optimism, you can't help but forecast doom and gloom or come to grips with that natural ebb and flow of an 82 game schedule. I can understand wanting perfection as a fan (sort of), but EXPECTING it? They WILL have some more rough stretches. So what! I guess you enjoy the seeds of doubt that will remain even if the Lakers three-peat because that's what drives you as a fan.

I have news for you. This team went flat after they were 8-0 because they got bored. The regular season is meaningless to them because they have their eye on only one prize. The truth is that they could have gone right to the playoffs from where they were at 8-0 and competed for a championship. After their last 2 dominating wins, they still have that level of confidence that only champions understand. Yes, they will fall flat a few more times this PRACTICE SEASON, but will finish no worse than a #2 seed, which is fine and dandy. I hate to burn your ears, but NO Phil Jackson three-peat team has had HCA all the way through. None of them.

The truth is that the West is weaker and who comes out of the East is anyone's guess. If Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol are healthy throughout the playoffs, the Spurs have 2 chances against us in a 7 games series. Slim and None and Slim just left the building! Everyone wants to anoint the Celtics the Eastern Conference champions, but watch the Bulls shock them. The East is up for grabs and the West is ours.

1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!!

@MVP... Just wanted to thank you for continuing to fight the good fight. Anybody who disrespects your basketball acumen or debating ability should rethink their strategy before donning the gloves. We may differ on nuances but pretty much see the game the same way. We ARE the back-to-back defending NBA champs and we will three-peat.
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TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | January 26, 2011 at 09:44 AM
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I just got back into the office and I'm going through the posts. Thanks, Tom. Of course we disagree on nuances, but we also have tremendous respect for each other's basketball acumen. For some reason, people see us as clones, but you and I can disagree without being disagreeable, so it goes unnoticed. I appreciate the shout out, brother!

Hey guys! Havent been on in a while due to a stupid amount of exams.

my goal last night was to watch the 2nd quarter and go back to studying. That didn't work out too well. I was enchanted the moment the 2nd started.

Let me first of start by saying, wow STEVE BLAKE! He was everywhere last night.. he didn't have a lot of points but he challenged kirilenko out of no where and then beat him at the jump ball! wtf! he was everywhere on d, making great passes. I was so througholy impressed, I didn't even miss Fisher (which for me is a rarity) but even when Fish was on the floor, he was rocking it too.

If Steve Blake plays like that every night, I will be super impressed and will be so stoked to limit Fish's minutes for the play offs in the process.

Lamar Odoms shot? beauty.
Shannon missing two dunks? Hilarious.
Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynums face after the fact - even more hilarious.

Last nights game was a pleasure to enjoy and we saw minutes from everyone!

Can't wait for Boston on Sunday!! (kings will be another easy boring blow out imo)

Anyone else besides me willing to MAN UP (or WOMAN UP) and admit that Boston needs that win on Sunday more than we do?

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | January 26, 2011 at 10:16 AM
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Of course they do. Game 7 still burns inside them. We're the defending champs who beat them into the ground in the worse possible way by coming back against them after they had a double digit lead on us in the second half. We're still sipping on champagne while they are still having nightmares. They can't wait to beat the crap out of us. Not only do they WANT it more, I agree that they actually NEED it! For us? Only 1 of 82, baby, as meaningful or meaningless as the rest of them. I still say we've seen the last of them in the playoffs. They're playing way too hard for such old guys and will wear down and then out. Just watch.

LTLF - congrats on the Friedman...I couldn't have said it any better...great post!!!

"The main thing that I find fans don’t take enough into consideration when evaluating differences between the Lakers performances from game to game are the matchups.
While it has become a cliché in many ways, the NBA is still all about the matchups. And Andrew Bynum is the sure fire x-factor that changes all the matchups for the Lakers.
...
For the first 8 games in the season, with Drew still recovering from his surgery, most of the front court matchups favored Pau playing center and he excelled. Then came a stretch of games where the center matchups did not favor Pau and the team struggled. However, now with Drew finally starting, the matchups once again favor the Lakers, which is a big reason why the team has gone 12-3 since Drew returned as the starter.

Posted by: LakerTom | January 26, 2011 at 12:43 PM

I agree with you on the matchups point but I also see something beyond that. Most often, the times the matchups work against them is when they play outside of the structure of their offense. If the Lakers start out last night missing their first few shots last night, do they continue to work the ball around and exploit their matchup strengths anyway? Possibly, but I have seen numerous times this year where they did not.

At the first sign of trouble, I see them fall into bad habits and play a lot of isolation basketball and spend too much time beyond the 3 point line. That is not a matchup that works in their favor. Even if Bynum or Gasol aren't particularly effective on a given night, the ball should still be worked inside often and I never understand it when they go away from that.

"Didn't Lamar Try to Warn B Griffin?

Have NBA players tired of seeing Blake Griffin’s nightly dunk contest? After B Haywood fouled him last night in Dallas, will Griffin slow his roll and be more selective/cautious dunking in the future or will he continue as in the past without regard to circumstances below the rim? Haywood’s foul wasn’t particularly hard, but it sent Blake to the floor on his elbow. Blake merely got up and directly went to the free throw line without even a backward a glance toward Haywood. Skip Bayless @ESPN says during his college play in OK, the Big 12 book on Blake was you got to hit him “hard early” to drop “his RPM,” and when that occurred Blake’s “big brother Taylor had to come in to defend him” because Blake would back off and not fight back “under any circumstances.” After last night's foul, Blake wore a protective sleeve on his arm and didn’t do much else in the remainder of the game. Maybe the best thing for Blake is today the NBA doesn’t have enforcers like Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn or Tom Heinsohn -- who in the day wouldn't stand around just observing opposing players like Blake! Any truth to the rumor Knick Timofey Mozgov sent a thank you note with a large gift card to Haywood? Lamar tried to warn Griffin -- apparently to no avail.

Posted by: LJP305 | January 26, 2011 at 01:05 PM"

Hopefully he doesn't change a thing. Players should be emulating his work ethic, not criticizing it.

LRob,

"I think the Lakers will tweak their lineup and continue to be a championship threat for the next 5yrs."

I agree with you... but only for the next three years. After three seasons, the Lakers will have to significantly retool themselves and build around Andrew Bynum.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Where is my post?


Anyway to add! How sweet was that block by DC? I love when rookies do sweet stuff like that!

Great win last night over the Jazz nice to see our boys come and lay a beat down like that on the jazz.Could it be in respond to the jerry west comments about them being to old?Looks like lakers need to have some kind of controversy or some sort surrounding them in order for them to show up and give their best.Only in hollywood.

Love how bynum is rounding into shape and becoming a dominate presence in the middle for us.I pray he stays he stays healthy cause i see him becoming unstopable as he gets stronger and develope a steady rhythm.

I'm on board also for allstar for bynum its for the fans and if they vote him in give they what they want.If he was healthy the whole time there wouldn't be a debate.
Go Lakers!

CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THE BYNUMLICIOUS FIST PUMPERS ARE OUT IN NUMBERS...

Posted by: its the fact jack | January 26, 2011 at 12:34 PM

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And what happened to all the wicked Bynum bashers/doubters...haven't seen any of them for a while...

Don't worry, Drew will have an off game, and they will be here in force and a can of Raid would be fruitless...

The only problem I had with Jerry's original comments was him saying, "I don't think the Lakers will be good for much longer". I think the Lakers will tweak their lineup and continue to be a championship threat for the next 5yrs.
Posted by: LRob | January 26, 2011 at 01:02 PM

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I feel that West will do a retraction of his comments, much the same way he did last year about Kobe, and LeBron being the best...

Is JW pulling some PJ stuff and trying to motivate the Lakers through the media...well for last night it worked...lol

Lew

B-Shaw was at it yesterday, saying our bigs aren't mean enough. You don't think that PJ would be behind any of this, do you? Seems awfully odd and coincidental that West and Shaw would be playing the media ala coach Eleven Rings, especially so close to the Chowds little visit.

"Typical. Even when you painstakingly go out of your way to offer a few words of optimism, you can't help but forecast doom and gloom or come to grips with that natural ebb and flow of an 82 game schedule. I can understand wanting perfection as a fan (sort of), but EXPECTING it? They WILL have some more rough stretches. So what! I guess you enjoy the seeds of doubt that will remain even if the Lakers three-peat because that's what drives you as a fan.

I have news for you. This team went flat after they were 8-0 because they got bored. The regular season is meaningless to them because they have their eye on only one prize. The truth is that they could have gone right to the playoffs from where they were at 8-0 and competed for a championship. After their last 2 dominating wins, they still have that level of confidence that only champions understand. Yes, they will fall flat a few more times this PRACTICE SEASON, but will finish no worse than a #2 seed, which is fine and dandy. I hate to burn your ears, but NO Phil Jackson three-peat team has had HCA all the way through. None of them.

The truth is that the West is weaker and who comes out of the East is anyone's guess. If Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol are healthy throughout the playoffs, the Spurs have 2 chances against us in a 7 games series. Slim and None and Slim just left the building! Everyone wants to anoint the Celtics the Eastern Conference champions, but watch the Bulls shock them. The East is up for grabs and the West is ours.

1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!!

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 26, 2011 at 01:13 PM "

I'm unsure of how much of my post you read. There's no doom and gloom in what I said, just a bit of puzzlement about why they don't consistently play the best way.

If they feed the ball inside, everyone gets touches, but they simply shoot poorly and lose, you're not going to see any "doom and gloom, sky is falling" comments from me, not that I make such posts anyway. The point I was making is that while the results won't always match last night's, the gameplan SHOULD, but it doesn't.

As far as boredom goes, I can't think of anything more boring than watching Shannon, Ron, and Kobe step outside of the offense and hoist up out of rhythm long distance jumpshots.

I have to agree with Bay on this one...

THEY NEED TO STAY WITH IN OUR OFFENSIVE SCHEME...

LRob,

"I think the Lakers will tweak their lineup and continue to be a championship threat for the next 5yrs."

I agree with you... but only for the next three years. After three seasons, the Lakers will have to significantly retool themselves and build around Andrew Bynum.

Posted by: Jon K. | January 26, 2011 at 01:56 PM
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You're right, 3 yrs of tweaking and then significant changes.

I'm unsure of how much of my post you read. There's no doom and gloom in what I said, just a bit of puzzlement about why they don't consistently play the best way.

If they feed the ball inside, everyone gets touches, but they simply shoot poorly and lose, you're not going to see any "doom and gloom, sky is falling" comments from me, not that I make such posts anyway. The point I was making is that while the results won't always match last night's, the gameplan SHOULD, but it doesn't.

As far as boredom goes, I can't think of anything more boring than watching Shannon, Ron, and Kobe step outside of the offense and hoist up out of rhythm long distance jumpshots.

Posted by: Bay to LA | January 26, 2011 at 03:35 PM
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I read and understood every word of it. I must admit, your nitpicking, "puzzlement" and pessimistic views even in the face of 2 impressive wins are much more exciting than the Lakers typical mundane practice season wins as they fine tune their game for the playoffs.

Sometimes the Lakers bigs get fronted and taken out of their rhythm. Sometimes Pau is fatigued and doesn't play at 100%, even in the playoffs. Sometimes Bynum's in foul trouble. Sometimes they all just have off nights. There are 82 games. Most of the time, teams circle the Lakers game on their schedule, prepare very hard for it, play 48 minutes of their very best basketball and take us out of what we like to do, so we can become like any other team and revert to standing around and playing some iso ball. Nobody likes that, but sometimes ... well just sometimes ... it HAPPENS. And sometimes, believe it or not, these guys are actually out there trying things that may or may not work because they are looking at a much bigger picture than one possession or even one stinking practice game.

Phil Jackson has his teams ready for the 16 win countdown in mid-April whether or not his team goes in playing its best ball of the season because they are ready for every possible situation. The way he coaches, it becomes a part of each player's DNA, almost instinct. He huddles with his coaches, not his players during timeouts. He lets the players figure things out for themselves. When things get out of control, he'll change a few things up, but for the most part he does his coaching in practice before the games even start. The point is that what "puzzles" you is Philip's necessary evil of rounding this team into championship form.

The real question should be: After ALL this time, why does it even "puzzle" you? When the Lakers fall into this pattern that "puzzles" you, maybe you should try taking a look at the silver lining for a change. There's much more to it than meets the eye.

@Lew – JW already clarified his comments on the article MM linked.


@Diandra – Ditto on Steve Blake’s play last night. That was the best part of the game for me.

"I read and understood every word of it. I must admit, your nitpicking, "puzzlement" and pessimistic views even in the face of 2 impressive wins are much more exciting than the Lakers typical mundane practice season wins as they fine tune their game for the playoffs.


The real question should be: After ALL this time, why does it even "puzzle" you? When the Lakers fall into this pattern that "puzzles" you, maybe you should try taking a look at the silver lining for a change. There's much more to it than meets the eye.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | January 26, 2011 at 03:59 PM "

So let me get this straight. When they have back to back bad games in the regular season, I should disregard it because it's the practice season and they weren't trying but when they have back to back great games, I should get excited because that's the "real" team? That's just too whimsical for my tastes.

I'm not going to assign value to all wins and disregard all losses. I'm taking it all in. As I referenced in my previous post, the wins/losses aren't even part of it, it's how they're playing as a team. When they resort to that individualized brand of ball, I can't view it as a meaningless aberration because it's a bad habit that continues to manifest itself. Why not use these meaningless "practice season" games to gain practice in staying on course and weathering the storm even when the traditional gameplan isn't working?

Bay to LA,

I agree with you in that it is perplexing to see them go away from the offense ever so (too?) often.
That being said, perhaps the wings try to launch the three pointers to unclog the middle? You know - fire a couple of threes so that the court opens up a little?
If the shots are falling, great. Even if they don't, it forces the defense to stretch out to the 3pt line - becuz they do not want to leave Ron, Fish, Shannon or least of all, Kobe open by themselves.

Just a thought..

"Bay to LA,

I agree with you in that it is perplexing to see them go away from the offense ever so (too?) often.
That being said, perhaps the wings try to launch the three pointers to unclog the middle? You know - fire a couple of threes so that the court opens up a little?
If the shots are falling, great. Even if they don't, it forces the defense to stretch out to the 3pt line - becuz they do not want to leave Ron, Fish, Shannon or least of all, Kobe open by themselves.

Just a thought..

Posted by: any_one_mouse | January 26, 2011 at 04:49 PM "

No doubt, outside shots definitely open up the inside and vice versa. When they get down in a game or don't have success outside early, they tend to use those shots way too much though. I guess I'm saying they should ignore the 3 point line when it isn't working the same way they ignore Pau if he misses a couple shots in a row.

Bay to LA,

Agreed :) I wonder if the coaching staff calls them out on it - after all, if we can see it in TV Land, I'm sure they do too. And these aren't major issues that need a full-fledged practice to iron out. Just a "Run the #%$& offense guys" pep talk..

"Bay to LA,

Agreed :) I wonder if the coaching staff calls them out on it - after all, if we can see it in TV Land, I'm sure they do too. And these aren't major issues that need a full-fledged practice to iron out. Just a "Run the #%$& offense guys" pep talk..

Posted by: any_one_mouse | January 26, 2011 at 05:11 PM "

Yeah, there have been several soundbytes about it already and that's just what was said in the media. I'm sure it gets discussed behind closed doors as well. The players all acknowledge it after it happens and say all the right things about rectifying the problem, yet it still happens. Like I said before, I don't quite understand it.


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