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Andrew Bynum sits out Monday's practice

After having soreness in his left knee that kept him sidelined for part of the third quarter of the Lakers' 109-96 loss Sunday to the Boston Celtics, Lakers center Andrew Bynum sat out of Mondays' practice to receive further treatment.

The Lakers don't consider the injury serious, and Bynum reentered the game against Boston after team trainer Gary Vitti taped his knee.

"We're hopeful tomorrow," Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said on whether Bynum will play in Tuesday's game against the Houston Rockets. "He says he'll play."

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AW HELL NAW!!! Remove this thread at once!! LakerTom please for the love of God don't look, pleasssssssssssssssssssse!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!!

Oh, Durant was 7-20, barely 33%, I just can't understand why they let that kid shoot so much?

Yep... It's obvious that the left knee is compensating for the recovering right knee. It's a demanding sport on the body. Keep your cool Andrew and don't go on the court to play Houston if you're not ready. No regular season game is worth the risk of further or catastrophic injury. Let's just hope this isn't the "beginning of the end." Thanks for the update MM; I was wondering about that "glass knee" of his. Ooops :-)

GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!!

Oh, Durant was 7-20, barely 33%, I just can't understand why they let that kid shoot so much? Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | January 31, 2011 at 02:38 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preach DJ, Preach!! Lol!

@HOBBITMAGE... “my response: According to what you have written, no player is responsible
for their own lack of hustle. Kobe is responsible for them not hustling, not being in position to rebound, & not being in the right position to receive a pass.”
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Please show me where I have ever said that “no player is responsible for their own lack of hustle” or that “Kobe is responsible for them not hustling, not being in position to rebound, & not being in the right position to receive a pass?” This is a perfect example of your misinterpreting and paraphrasing my comments to allege that I said something I never ever said or believe. What is worse is that I am pretty sure that you know me well enough from our recent friendly conversations to know that, too. :-)
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TOM

Well, that explains why Drew played small.

I'm not sure why Pau is willowing considering he took the entire summer off.

This Lakers' season is certainly an Enigma...

Drew outscored the Celtics centers 11-2 on 3-6 shooting. His +/- for the game was -2 compared to -20 for Pau. I saw Andrew struggle to have a good game but he at least held his own, which you can’t say for Pau, Ron, Fish, or Blake. Or wait, I guess in your world you can say that. Drew did not have a good game but he didn’t stink it up like Pau. As for being a Pau basher, I would say at this point that is a fair description. As much as I hate to bash on a Lakers player, I have frankly lost all confidence in Pau Gasol to play tough.

Posted by: LakerTom | January 31, 2011 at 01:55 PM

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LT – Careful this +/- is a slippery slope. You know who had the best one for the Lakers yesterday? It was none other than Ron Ron. He had a +9. Go figure.

@Justa - nice of you to drop in with words of calm. I betcha wasn't so cool about 24 hrs ago :-)


@Art – Lol. Free Falling would’ve been funny, but I don’t think they’ve earned that one yet. And hopefully they never will.

@NUGGETS COUNTRY... Peace accepted. As I said, I have always respected your view and your expertise. Where did you play ball and coach? As for Pau, I’m not immune to getting pissed off when we lose and probably overreacted to the loss with more negativity than usually seen from me. Were you watching the game with me, you might have thought you were watching with ouchhhhhh. And I love the motor that Kevin Love has and thought he would be perfect on our roster.
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But I am seriously worried about Pau. You are right that something is up. I never have considered trading him before but I have no doubt that if Melo were willing to come in a straight up sign and trade for Pau that the Nuggets would jump at the chance. It would be the best offer they could get. I hate the thought of trading for Pau but in my mind, Melo would give us a younger more aggressive and tougher player who could play power forward next to Drew. Maybe we could get Denver to also take Luke and Ron and give us Chauncey. You watch the Nuggets all the time. Would they get a better offer than Pau, Luke, and Ron for Melo and Chauncey? If Pau does not man up, Mitch may be tempted and the Nuggets only have two months to get something for Melo before he leaves.
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TOM

DJ....

The media keeps harping on Kobe's shooting pct. as a way to discredit him. They've exhausted other methods. Just for fun, I'm going to list the FG shooting pct. of 3 HOF players:
a) .440
b) .439
c) .456

Doesn't sound so hot, does it? Until you realize Player a) is Bill Russell, Player b) is John Havlicek and Player c) is Sam Jones. Together they have about 30 rings.

Kobe's lifetime FG% is .455. He's got 5 rings and counting. Stats are for fantasy basketball. Championship level basketball is a whole different animal.

@LROB... I do agree with you and did see that Ron had a high +/-. While I did not think Drew had a good game, I thought he played much better than Pau as did Lamar. And I also thought the Lakers interior defense was much better when he was in the game. Yes, he did get beat by Big Baby and did make a dumb reach foul on Perkins, but you did not see the Celtics attack the rim when he was in the game the way they did when Pau took over for center. At any rate, Pau’s -20 looked pretty accurate.
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TOM

PAU is the PROBLEM!!! He's passive, weak, lacks passion and heart, and plays like a small-forward. Last year we were able to cover-up his passive play with a strong and determined Kobe and inspiring play by Bynum, and tough play by Artest. Those guys have taken a step back for reasons we can understand (Kobe and Bynums surgeries, Artest fragile mental state) and Pau is scared to step up. He has taken two steps back this year and needs to be traded.

Pau and Artest for:

Deng and Noah
David West and Ariza
Carmello and Nene
Dwight Howard
Favvors, Vujacic, Lopez
Bogut, Maggette

LT and Nuggets:

While a Pau for 'Melo trade sounds somewhat appealing in light of a stretch of lackluster games... I think we need to be careful here. One of the Lakers most sincere advantages in the league is their height and length. Having TWO legit 7-footers in the starting line-up will really pay off come playoff time. Of course, we all know this, having won back-to-back championships.

Pau isn't playing at his best right now -- nowhere near it, in fact. However, he's been one of the most consistent (read: really good) Lakers for the past three seasons, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't round into form as the playoffs near.

In my opinion, we NEED Pau.

Go Lake Show!

Andrew Bynum miss practice?

The hardest working-overachieving-floor burn leading-underpaid-game changing dominant NBA superstar?

Not even possible!

Cecil:

You sound like a broken record.

You sound like a broken record.

You sound like a broken record.

You sound like a--

Quit it.

Go Lake Show!

@ LROB,

The only reason Ron had a high +/- is because he stunk up the place and was benched!!!!

Did you not happen to see he played less than half the game in total minutes!!!!


Admit it Ron sucked against the hated Celticoes!!!!!!!!

You can just tell that Andrew is not 100%. Not even close. This does not bode well for the Lakers if they face the Celtics again, who will undoubtedly pound them inside. The key to defeating Boston is stopping Pierce and/or Ray Allen. Both those two get hot and it's over. Pathetic job by the Lakers, especially Artest, who needs to step up big time.

Andrew Bynum miss practice? The hardest working-overachieving-floor burn leading-underpaid-game changing dominant NBA superstar?
Not even possible! Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | January 31, 2011 at 03:13 PM
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Red I'm glad to see you RECOGNIZE!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pau was raised in the european style of play, a rather non aggressive and passion-less style, more finesse and mental thought out play...he obviously has a hard time BEING a nba player, sure he adjusts when critisized but then goes back to his born way of play, melo wont be a laker and the bulls will never give up noah, our only hope if any is to wait til next year and access howard..

GOD@@#$%$%%^!!! DON'T BRING ME NO BAD NEWS!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB9nm-Vjv-4&feature=related

Carmelo for Gasol? I'm really confused as to how that would help the Lakers. Their biggest asset is size and that trade would neutralize it. They could score a lot of points but their defense would definitely take a few steps backward.

Yeah, we really should get rid of Pau... Remember those years before him? 2003 to 2006? Those were the glory years. What heve we accomplished in the 3 years since we got him on our team? Nothing. Nothing I say! Get rid of this bum.

Mamba24,

You`re in elite company....Larry King, Liz Taylor, and Robert Wagner have also married the same spouse more than once!

LakerTom,

Hold on!

you wrote: As much as I hate to bash on a Lakers player, I have frankly lost all confidence in Pau Gasol to play tough.

my response: Haven't you been trying to thump me & a multitude of others
for having no confidence in Bynum? Yet, in under half a season, you've given
up on the former all-star known as Pau Gasol??? Doesn't that strike you as
being hypocritical?

you wrote:
Please show me where I have ever said that “no player is responsible for their own lack of hustle” or that “Kobe is responsible for them not hustling, not being in position to rebound, & not being in the right position to receive a pass?”

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/01/phil-jackson-kobe-bryant-ron-artest-pau-gasol-lamar-odom-and-derek-fisher-discuss-lakers-109-96-loss.html

snippet:
@HOBBITMAGE... “my response: Help me understand your point of view. Phil Jackson is saying that the rest of the Lakers were passive and didn't run the offense. You're blaming the passiveness of the rest of the Lakers on Kobe? Or are you disagreeing with Phil and saying that it wasn't the rest of the
Lakers being passive ... it was actually Kobe waving everybody off?”
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I don’t agree with Phil’s comments. I also don’t think that Phil really liked how Kobe played last night. I know you think Kobe is perfect and never deserves to be criticized but the reality of last night’s game was that Kobe failed to stay within the offense, never trusted his teammates, and got into a scoring competition with Paul Pierce that ended up stifling the Lakers offensively and leaving everybody standing around. You can deflect the blame to the rest of the team,

Soo ..... The statement: "Kobe failed to stay within the offense, never trusted his teammates, and got into a scoring competition with Paul Pierce that ended up stifling the Lakers offensively and leaving everybody standing around "

is a paraphrase of the statement: “no player is responsible for their own lack of hustle” or that “Kobe is responsible for them not hustling, not being in position to rebound, & not being in the right position to receive a pass?”

Because Phil Jackson blamed Kobe's teammates when he said:

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson pointed the finger not at Bryant, but his teammates.

"I didn't think anybody else wanted the ball," Jackson said. "We did run a couple other things to get people in position but I thought those times he had the best opportunities. A lot of times, it didn't look like we were running anything out there offensively.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-celtics-20110131,0,2949123.story

"LT – Careful this +/- is a slippery slope. You know who had the best one for the Lakers yesterday? It was none other than Ron Ron. He had a +9. Go figure.


Posted by: LRob | January 31, 2011 at 02:58 PM "

Yeah. Gasol probably spends more time with the 2nd unit than any other starter does and I think his +/- typically suffers as a result of it.

Bynum, Fisher, and Artest are usually only in there with the 1st unit so the +/- will show them as being more effective.

I say we get a bloggers/has-beens pickup game together at a Venice beach court and we web cast it to the Lake Show and show them how to bang and have some passion! I might even fly in from my mountain heaven........... LOL


This senior citizen may not be able to hobble more than a few steps with my bball decrepit knees and back, but I'd give some like Pau a run for their money in the paint and a few bruises to boot! Think Carl Landry size (weight/height anyway- lol).....


LOL


I do get to see the Nuggets way too often, but I always have NBA League Pass, so I never miss a Lakers game that I always TIVO (never know when another 81 will show up)....although I hate it when I am forced to listen to various homer broadcasters like Sean Elliot, Heinsohn, etc. Had enough of TH back in the day..........


Watching the Thuggets, I see how fragile Melo's attitude is from game to game. Chauncey is old-school, so I would love to see him, but Denver is no dummy and would want too much. They also know LW, RA, even AB & PG are problematic. They would want an LO and I don't know if we would want to do that trade, even though before this year he has been erratic. I think Lakers need a youth movement even at the expense of some experience that may or may not get it done this year. I would like to put LO back in the starting lineup and bring Pau off the bench when Kobe goes out, as my instinct says Pau is no longer able to subvert himself to Kobe's dominanc. Even though, IMO, he should!


I love the KG bleeding picture (not because I hate the Celtics and anybody in their uniform though, which would be my normal stance), as I was in that way many times before they stopped games just because someone was bleeding. What a joke...back then. They would have put a skirt on us and send us packing. lol I know about the blood scares and such we didn't have to worry about back in the day........... Just sayin'


Good times...............


LT – Careful this +/- is a slippery slope. You know who had the best one for the Lakers yesterday? It was none other than Ron Ron. He had a +9. Go figure.

Posted by: LRob | January 31, 2011 at 02:58 PM
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I noticed that, too. Weird, huh? One thing is for certain, for whatever reason, both Luke Walton and Shannon Brown generally play poorly against the Chowds. Pierce has always gotten the best of Luke, and Shannon Brown seems unsure of himself for whatever reason when we play them. His decision making and aggressiveness is not nearly like it normally is against other teams, but a lot of that has to do with their defense. This is a game that we could have used Matt Barnes, not that he would have made a difference, but it's good to know that he'll be there for the tougher perimeter match-ups down the road.

Let me make on thing very clear about what I feel about yesterday's game. Despite my rant about Artest, we got soundly beat by a team that is playing FAR SUPERIOR basketball than us right now. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo and Glenn Davis are playing at a very focused, VERY high level right now. That's 4 potential Hall of Famers we're talking about who are on the same mission they were on in 2008. At least the Lakers now know they need to wake up because they've faced the best of the best in the NBA and will be reminded of that again on Thursday.

Let's look at this as Three-peat 101 and the travails they must face to successfully, or unsuccessfully, complete this very difficult journey.

1992-93 Bulls - 33-15 (final record: 57-25)
1997-98 Bulls - 34-14 (final record: 62-20)
2001-02 Lakers- 35-13 (final record: 58-24)
2010-11 Lakers- 33-15 (final record: ???)

Looks like the same crap to me. Maybe by some fluke this second Lakers team can step it up like that second Bulls team did. It does not look good right now, but these might be the growing pains that this team needs to go through. Time will tell and it will be interesting, to say the least.

their defense can take a step back further..oh i was under the impression that it has fallen as far as possible..i didnt know it could go farther than further..so giving up an avg 119 points when they lose isnt THATbad right....its embarrassing..im sick of their were bored or it doest count right now...POOP...its poop...25 yrs i get blkow outs...thats my gift from them..hey show thanks..i mean its not bad enough i might be the only laker fan in texas, but then you want to get blown out....ON TV..at home...im home..because i might get shot by some nascar junkies that just found out the spurs are from texas and that im a laker fan...thanks guys

@OUTLAW... I don’t really know what is going on with Pau but his blasé attitude and refusal to accept any blame for his weak play really concerns me more than any other issue with the Lakers. I also admit being very impatient with fans proposing trading any of our corps players but when you look at how Pau has been playing all year long and think about the Lakers getting older, Melo could be a real chance to add some youth and toughness to the team. If we are talking about the Pau Gasol who played in last year’s Finals, the trade would be a poor move. But if we’re talking about the Pau Gasol we saw yesterday and so far this year, then a 4-year younger Melo would give us a different but better team. It all depends on whether Pau is going to be the Pau from the 2008 Finals or the 2010 Finals.
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@HOBBITMAGE... I have no interest in continuing this discussion. I made my points and said what I believed very clearly. Please stop – as you call it – “paraphrasing” what I say into what you incorrectly think I said. That is a dishonest and rude tactic that even virtual friends should not have to endure. I cannot understand why you cannot see that what you are doing is not fair. Enough is enough, please.
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TOM

" If Pau does not man up, Mitch may be tempted and the Nuggets only have two months to get something for Melo before he leaves.
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TOM


Posted by: LakerTom | January 31, 2011 at 03:03 PM

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Even less - less than 24 days according to the NBA.com trade dealine countdown clock.

dealine = deadline


sigh

Ron sucked, Pau sucked, Fish sucked, Bynum looked gimpy...

Kobe turned it into a one-on-one with Paul and won - but lost the game. “Other players on the team? You mean the guys shooting like crap? Me and Lamar can win it alone...” not!!!

Key numbers:
43-30 - Celtics way out rebounded us.
29 - shots by Kobe (and 0 assists) - we don't seem to win very often when he takes more than 20 shots.
10 of 35 - shots made by starting line-up - other than Kobe
60% - shots made by Celtics - everyone but Shaq shot over 50%
10 – Laker Assists
34 – Celtic Assists

I thought our “bigs” played well in the first half. The second half was atrocious. Obviously, Kobe is going to shoot. Get in there and get the rebound if he misses! Over and over, it was all Celtics under the basket when Kobe put one up. There is no excuse for that. This is where championships are won or lost - in the trenches.

Their big three were on fire (28 of 42). We just had a big one - and Lamar.

Ron was embarrassingly awful against Paul.

Garnet dominated Pau.

Watching Kobe miss is more entertaining than watching most players make shots. The spin, the fake… I loved that play where he went right at Shaq – Fish did it as well… priceless…

I was really enjoying the game in the first half – watching the best of the best going at it. It was upsetting when Kobe decided to make it about himself instead of running the triangle and creating easy shots. Him and Paul were talking a lot of trash. I think Paul goaded him into it - he is no dummy. Even when Kobe got it within 4, it was obvious that we were going to lose. 5 on 1 is not good odds - even if you are the best player in the world (especially if you are playing the Boston Celtics). The Celtics got a lot of easy baskets. Towards the end, I had to look away and groan… because… that’s right…

I am a Lakerholic.

Where are these "trade" scenarios coming from (Cecil)?

Pau and Drew for Hulk Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior?

Pau and Drew for The Road Warriors?

Pau and Drew for LaVerne and Shirley?

Pau and Drew for Frankie and Annette?

These, like the other proposed trades are ridiculous.

Turd scenarios is more like it.


DBDH!

I actually expected Blake to take Fisher's job and be a real outside threat, but that hasn't happened. Ron is a sad sight right now, perhaps he needs to be with another team. I really appreciated his addition last season, but perhaps that's the extent of it?

BTW, I'd like to see Joe Smith get some run in non-garbage time just to see what happens.

@NUGGETS COUNTRY... Do you think the Nuggets would trade Melo straight up for Pau Gasol? Their salaries are pretty equal. Melo would have to agree to an extension of course but I am intrigued by the chance to get a player from another beleaguered team. Pau is far more than NJ or NY offered.
What trade rumors are you hearing for Melo? What is your personal opinion of whether Melo would fit on this Lakers team? Does Chauncey have enough left for the Lakers to try and include him? Thx.
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TOM

@ 888,

The stats that some people try to debunk are in truth, "trends" that educated folks like yourself know are used to forecast future events. Kudos on your research.

1992-93 Bulls - 33-15 (final record: 57-25)
1997-98 Bulls - 34-14 (final record: 62-20)
2001-02 Lakers- 35-13 (final record: 58-24)
2010-11 Lakers- 33-15 (final record: ???)

Secondly, even though I NEVER wish injury on anyone, I believe the Celtics are only one strained calf, hammy, or knee away from a slump. The Lakers can withstand the injury bug for the long term (sans Kobe), where the Celtics lose so much more when/if one of their big 4 go down (sans Perkins). Pray for health, pray for patience, and hope for a resolution to the basketball doldrums the boys are experiencing right now.

DBDH!

Dude..It's obvious why Pau is playing so WEAK, he miss his LOVER SASHA!!!! Never discount the POWER of LOVE, dude has a BROKEN HEART.

"I actually expected Blake to take Fisher's job and be a real outside threat, but that hasn't happened. Ron is a sad sight right now, perhaps he needs to be with another team. I really appreciated his addition last season, but perhaps that's the extent of it?

Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | January 31, 2011 at 03:58 PM "

I didn't think they signed Blake to be the backup but apparently they did. I still think they need to try Blake more with the 1st unit to see how it works.

@cecil
u don´t know what u´re sayin. Thnx God ur not LA GM cause if not the Hornets could easily build a far better team than ours, and Gasol would be laughin in ur face when in WCF we were done.

U change Gasol, Artest, Caracter for West, Ariza, Willie Green (4M expiring) and a couple second rounds.
Then NO changes Jack and Banks (5M expiring) and they get Jamal Crawford. That would make sense for both teams since the Hawks need a good PG (Bibby is sooo over).

Don´t u think that NO would really kick asses???

Fisher - Kobe - Ariza - LO/West - Bynum

Paul - Belinelli/Jamal Cawford - Artest - Gasol - Okafor

Last days u´re bashing and bashing Gasol, and i think is fair cause he´s suckin for the last 2 months, but stop the trade Gasol comments please!!!! He´s so important for us to win the 3peat!!!

The Lakers are the champions in name only these days, and it wasn't just the improved Celtics shoving them aside Sunday that tells us that.

The Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs, and the Dallas Mavericks did the same thing last month, the Lakers unable or unwilling to keep up with either team in a pair of double-digit losses.

"We're not playing very well against these top teams," Bryant said. "So we need to elevate our level and we need to get better if we're to defend our throne."

That seems like a long shot at this point.

The champs can plead their case all they want, tell us they have plenty of time to get their act together and be ready to roll when the playoffs arrive more than two months from now.

But it's hard to take them at their word when they've failed every test thus far to prove they can defend their title. This Lakers team is just talk right now with nothing to prove base on their record against contending and elite teams. They're just a bunch of cocky players who thinks that they can push the switch to "on" come playoff time. I don't think they can even beat the Spurs without HCA much more beating the Celtics, Heat, Magic or even the Bulls in a 2-3-2 format without home court advantage.

@ LROB,

The only reason Ron had a high +/- is because he stunk up the place and was benched!!!!

Did you not happen to see he played less than half the game in total minutes!!!!

Admit it Ron sucked against the hated Celticoes!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Laker | January 31, 2011 at 03:15 PM
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Mr. Laker - I've already admitted Ron was the biggest culprit yesterday...you must've have missed all the earlier posts.

@kobemvp888
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo and Glenn Davis are playing at a very focused, VERY high level right now. That's 4 potential Hall of Famers we're talking about who are on the same mission they were on in 2008.

Dude what crack pipe are you smoking! I need some of that sh!t!
4 hall of famers, possibly 2 or 3, but unless Davis turns into Shaq or Rondo starts hitting a shot from farther than fifteen feet they aint getting into the hall!

That's like saying Fish, Horry, are going to the hall because they been on a championship team or Walton because he has potential!!

MMedina get these Crack inhaling whoring Trolls out of here!!!!!


BandWagon

@kobemvp888
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo and Glenn Davis are playing at a very focused, VERY high level right now. That's 4 potential Hall of Famers we're talking about who are on the same mission they were on in 2008.

Dude what crack pipe are you smoking! I need some of that sh!t!
4 hall of famers, possibly 2 or 3, but unless Davis turns into Shaq or Rondo starts hitting a shot from farther than fifteen feet they aint getting into the hall!

That's like saying Fish, Horry, are going to the hall because they been on a championship team or Walton because he has potential!!

MMedina get these Crack inhaling whoring Trolls out of here!!!!!


BandWagon

@kobemvp888
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo and Glenn Davis are playing at a very focused, VERY high level right now. That's 4 potential Hall of Famers we're talking about who are on the same mission they were on in 2008.

Dude what crack pipe are you smoking! I need some of that sh!t!
4 hall of famers, possibly 2 or 3, but unless Davis turns into Shaq or Rondo starts hitting a shot from farther than fifteen feet they aint getting into the hall!

That's like saying Fish, Horry, are going to the hall because they been on a championship team or Walton because he has potential!!

MMedina get these Crack inhaling whoring Trolls out of here!!!!!


BandWagon

No takers on the beach game!? LOL


"@NUGGETS COUNTRY... Do you think the Nuggets would trade Melo straight up for Pau Gasol? Their salaries are pretty equal. Melo would have to agree to an extension of course but I am intrigued by the chance to get a player from another beleaguered team. Pau is far more than NJ or NY offered.
What trade rumors are you hearing for Melo? What is your personal opinion of whether Melo would fit on this Lakers team? Does Chauncey have enough left for the Lakers to try and include him? Thx.
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TOM
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I think Melo would be somewhat a problem (shots, attitude) on the Lakers even though he and Kobe get along OK. Melo & Chauncey for Pau and RA & LW as someone asked may work, but I can't imaging Denver going for it....or MK either. I think MK will stand pat, even though Pau's problems must be addressed by the FO if PJ won't. Chauncey is tough, so I like adding him. My preferred big type would be Noah or Scola types - forwards who hustle and get their own from tipins and rebounding and do not pout for the ball.

MMedina get these Crack inhaling whoring Trolls out of here!!!!! BandWagon
Posted by: Mr. Laker | January 31, 2011 at 04:17 PM
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Mr. Laker You Really Rolling Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is a fact..and im sorry im not a cool well known bloggie guy and sorry if my comments touch a nerve..but in reality i am more a laker fan in my sleep than most of you guys are awake..kobe has watched footage of his play from 3-7 yrs ago and decided that that kobe's play was WAY more effective than his play of the past 3 seasons...he decided that a second 3peat is no good. its bad to want to keep winning rings. he is ridiculous and they are a 1st round exit GUARANTEED ....so go ahead and take the month of june to dinner..cause we wont be watching the lakers come the finals..much less the western conf..it is un fixable and shame ridden garbage and why the team allows it is ruining my appetite..you let every team that will be a challenge in the playoffs DOMINATE.you AT HOME...how dare you treat your fans with such humility...kobe is a clown and has so far this season ruined anything worthy he has accomplished

im sorry...i didnt mean that...kobe is amazing

Pau, LW, TR (I hate he has been hurt for us!) for Melo, KMart/Anderson (even hurt), & Chauncey. Don't know if it works in trade machine either, but possible.......

How is it that it seems every team out there has at least one jump-outta-the-gym-forward like Portland and we have none!? SB is a guard.........

@rossdogg,

Your entitled to your opinion,

even if you are one of those aforementioned,

Crack inhaling whoring Trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@NUGGETS COUNTRY... Thanks for your comments. The irony of the trade would be that the Lakers ended up getting Carmelo Anthony for Kwame Brown with a couple of titles from Pau Gasol in between. No way are the Nuggets going to get a better offer than Pau. As it stands, they could end up getting nothing very easily. I think Kobe and Melo would be better complementary players than Wade and LeBron. Again, this is all predicated on the assumption that Gasol will not regain his previous level of play, something that I am starting to seriously think is unlikely to happen. 2 rings may be all Pau had in him. In his mind, that may be the heart of the problem because it definitely is mental. The Nuggets are up the creek without a paddle and like the Grizzlies may be ripe for the taking.
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TOM

if by inhale you mean sniff, smoke and shoot up well then thank you sir.but you are still paying me for the bag of it you and your mom stole from my sisters sons best friends ex girlfriend's purse

pau was raised in the european style of play, a rather non aggressive and passion-less style, more finesse and mental thought out play...he obviously has a hard time BEING a nba player, sure he adjusts when critisized but then goes back to his born way of play, melo wont be a laker and the bulls will never give up noah, our only hope if any is to wait til next year and access howard..

Posted by: rossdogg76 | January 31, 2011 at 03:23 PM

pau was raised in the european style of play, a rather non aggressive and passion-less style, more finesse and mental thought out play...he obviously has a hard time BEING a nba player, sure he adjusts when critisized but then goes back to his born way of play, melo wont be a laker and the bulls will never give up noah, our only hope if any is to wait til next year and access howard..

Posted by: rossdogg76 | January 31, 2011 at 03:23 PM

You`re in elite company....Larry King, Liz Taylor, and Robert Wagner have also married the same spouse more than once! Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | January 31, 2011 at 03:32 PM
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Ha! Nothing but Mamba24 wannabe's !!!!

"Again, this is all predicated on the assumption that Gasol will not regain his previous level of play, something that I am starting to seriously think is unlikely to happen. 2 rings may be all Pau had in him. In his mind, that may be the heart of the problem because it definitely is mental. The Nuggets are up the creek without a paddle and like the Grizzlies may be ripe for the taking.
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TOM


Posted by: LakerTom
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Agree with all that. I hate soft players unless there is something major physically wrong, in which case they should be riding the pine in a suit.

Can't wait to get Matt back.

@rossdog,

I can't pay it all back in one day but if you accommodate me with a little 'happy dust' today,

I'll swear I'll pay it back all on Wednesday!!!

@rossdog,

i mean Ill pay you back Fryday when I get my food stamps(card)!

Pau must be having mental problems, or it could be something else. So I will stay with the mind theory, he looks uninterested lacking in the the get up and go department. I call him Gasoft because he plays more game as if he is a 2 guard. Notice most times after a lost he talks about moving the ball, well that's mentally of a point guard or a 2 guard. He needs to get physical and take the ball to the hoop. Forget about moving the ball make the defense pay. Just seems that he cannot found his spot on the floor, teams are clogging the middle on us now and our team outside shooting is bad.

Is it panic time at Lakerdom? Can you not see the Bright side of that defeat against boston last Sunday. They hit 60% of their shots and we only hit 40% of ours but we were in the game until that 5 minutes mark on the 4th quarter, that's were they blew the game open, but we have to play hard nose basketball from here to end in order for us to get confidence again.

even though kobe had ZERO assists in yesterdays loss. he sure put on quite a show offensively! when you have a great horse.....you RIDE 'EM! he was en fuego, and all the other lakers were "scaredy-cats" not wanting the ball. that's ok, BUT, you still have to rebound, play defense, dive for loose balls, hustle and MOSTLY, give a shi#! i don't have a problem losing to boston, it's the way they lost, looking like deer in the headlights! please just show up! is that too much to ask for?

Laker Tom,

Pau Gasol - is/was the perfect big for the triangle. What is going on? Like you, I have serious doubts about this guy right now and have seen him go from a McHale like machine, scoring at will to a super talent guy who seems satisfied with a 3-10, 8 rebound performance.

Have other teams figured out how to play him? Are they getting physical beyond what we can see on the screen? Is he pissed that he doesn't touch the ball enough, so he isn''t trying?

I don't know what's up - but he has become an embarrassment. All that talent and the lousy results. Since they starting calling him the best big in the league, he has been on a downward slope. I mean really - step up and take the challenge. He is in his prime - he should be looking to knock guys like Garnett off their pedestal.

At this point, trading him or benching him does not seem like a bad option. While Melo is intriguing - Scola of the Rockets is more the kind of player the Lakers need. Motivation, energy and hustle on a consistent basis would be a refreshing change at this point. I'd hate to lose Gasol's potential - but how many more games do we have to watch this level of underachievement and disrespect for the game?

Maybe I just don't take losing to the Celtics very well - but this season's chance at a title is most likely slim and none if a change isn't made. I don't buy all the-regular season doesn't matter stuff. Barring injuries, trades or Bynum making a major leap forward - the Celtics will win the title this year. They are dominating just like in 2008. There are few things worse than watching the Celtics win a title.

DKWSFO

Everyone is blaming Pau. Hell, he is the prime reason for our championship runs. Our guards cannot stop penetration and are weak in 3pt defense. Their inability puts severe pressure on our bigs. Except for Kobe, we get very little contribution on offense from our point guards or small forwards. correct our perimeter game and the bigs will prosper.

This is all of PJ's stupid zen crap at fault.
PJ works Pau over for heavy minutes earlly in the season then tells him he wants more and lamblasts him in the press. PJ should have told the other four players to step up. Pau admitted he did not like PJ's attacking him in the press but he stated that is not a place he wanted to go. PJ insinuates Pau has to get tougher and give hard fouls. PJ calls out Artest in public and Artest does not like it.
Now PJ stirred the ish up and lets it continue and steps back.

Now you have zen friends calling Pau soft after PJ wore him out. Forgets to say he told everyone we have enough scorers but wanted him for defense. Zen friends calling for Artest's head cuz he is not scoring.

Now if by chance Artest and Pau get their games going PJ sits back and takes credit. If his medhods fail and Pau and Ron Ron don't get their game back again PJ sits back with his I told you so smug look taking credit for part in Lakers dumping weak players. PJ comes out smelling like a rose. Maybe if PJ coached a little and supported his players instead of throwing them under the bus would work better. Naw too much work for PJ might as well set up the win-win for him stratgy.

I see where in another LAT article Kupchak's willing to look a trade offers.

It might be a good time to -- just for conversation's sake -- see what might be obtained for Andrew Bynum before everyone in the league figures out that he's a 40-game-per-season bench queen, who's now in his sixth season and is still living off the word "potential".

Maybe a solid, defense-first center (what the perennially on-the-shelfTheo Ratliff was supposed to be) and a young, quick PG?

It still amazes me how people can watch the same game as me but come to a completely different conclusion when analyzing what went wrong in another Laker loss. This game did not come down to Kobe making it a one against five contest nor did he not get his teammates involved. What this came down to was Boston's complete lack of respect for the Laker bigs. What we should be concerned about is all the excuses coming out of the Lakers camp. Let me see I heard missed defensive assignments, too much Kobe etc, players being disinterested, Celtics wanted it more, it the regular season and not the playoffs. There are more just tired of listing them. We should be concerned that nobody is taking responsibility for this mess, grown men are hiding behind offensive sets and defensive organization. When a team has lost respect for you as the Celtics have for these Lakers, it is going to be hard to beat them simply because they are playing free and with more confidence than you. Gasol lost more than a basketball game on Sunday; something he is going to find very hard to get back if they get the chance to meet the Celtics again. He just made the game that much harder for himself with that display on Sunday. Artest has completely imploded as a basketball player. He cannot even do the simple things on offense anymore forget about his defensive no show. Add to that the physical limitations of Kobe and Bynum and you can see why this team struggles. It is okay to blame Kobe if it makes you feel good. He gets paid enough to shoulder that responsibility but don't accept what the rest of team has to offer at the moment either. To me the regular season is a bust for me now. They have lost every major challenge they faced so far. On any given night these Lakers can lose to just about anybody that says a lot about your basketball team when that can happen. If I was captain of this team, I would ask Artest what going on with him nobody plays basketball that bad nobody. Tell Pau you got to help me out here. You got to give me more than you have been giving so far. To a man I would go over where everybody was having a positive effect and also the negative stuff that is impeding the team from success. Basketball is not that hard. You just have to make sure everybody is accountable to do their part. That does not mean out a 100 possessions everybody get 12-15 shots. That means in every game you do what you have to do to win that particular game. It a simple game folks where everybody has to know their role and respond accordingly. These Lakers make way too many excuses for not doing what they are suppose to do and Phil lets them hide behind that regular season excuse. They will get nowhere doing that.

It still amazes me how people can watch the same game as me but come to a completely different conclusion when analyzing what went wrong in another Laker loss. This game did not come down to Kobe making it a one against five contest nor did he not get his teammates involved. What this came down to was Boston's complete lack of respect for the Laker bigs. What we should be concerned about is all the excuses coming out of the Lakers camp. Let me see I heard missed defensive assignments, too much Kobe etc, players being disinterested, Celtics wanted it more, it the regular season and not the playoffs. There are more just tired of listing them. We should be concerned that nobody is taking responsibility for this mess, grown men are hiding behind offensive sets and defensive organization. When a team has lost respect for you as the Celtics have for these Lakers, it is going to be hard to beat them simply because they are playing free and with more confidence than you. Gasol lost more than a basketball game on Sunday; something he is going to find very hard to get back if they get the chance to meet the Celtics again. He just made the game that much harder for himself with that display on Sunday. Artest has completely imploded as a basketball player. He cannot even do the simple things on offense anymore forget about his defensive no show. Add to that the physical limitations of Kobe and Bynum and you can see why this team struggles. It is okay to blame Kobe if it makes you feel good. He gets paid enough to shoulder that responsibility but don't accept what the rest of team has to offer at the moment either. To me the regular season is a bust for me now. They have lost every major challenge they faced so far. On any given night these Lakers can lose to just about anybody that says a lot about your basketball team when that can happen. If I was captain of this team, I would ask Artest what going on with him nobody plays basketball that bad nobody. Tell Pau you got to help me out here. You got to give me more than you have been giving so far. To a man I would go over where everybody was having a positive effect and also the negative stuff that is impeding the team from success. Basketball is not that hard. You just have to make sure everybody is accountable to do their part. That does not mean out a 100 possessions everybody get 12-15 shots. That means in every game you do what you have to do to win that particular game. It a simple game folks where everybody has to know their role and respond accordingly. These Lakers make way too many excuses for not doing what they are suppose to do and Phil lets them hide behind that regular season excuse. They will get nowhere doing that.

One day Bynum will leave the Lakers and go to the Miami Heat! And Kobe will be ready to retire. It will happen real soon. The Lakers will be able to rebuild their team.

do you think the lakers can trade their two bigs for one of sacramento's demarcus cousins. they can add an additional player, like artest, further more they can throw in a couple of guards. what say you guys.

ALERT! First Jerry West and now Magic Mr. Laker himself is saying that the Lakers need be shaken up to inject some life into the team. This is an indictment against the Zen Master. He is unable to motivate his team any longer. You cannot say you will wait until the playoffs to flip the switch. I am sure Dr. Buss is not pleased with the team's effort as well. The Man is spending $90 million plus. Imagine his season ticket holders. All I have read from the season started is don't worry the Lakers will 3 peat. It's nonsense. Look at last year. The Lakers beat Boston in Boston and almost won a game against Boston at home which came down to the last shot with Kobe sitting out. In fact when Kobe sat out couple games LA went on a winning streak. Last year they went through some struggles but they were competitive. This year is an abomination. Mitch pull the trigger because these players are fat with their big contracts and past sucesses.


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