Lakers Now

Round-the-Clock Purple and Gold

« Previous Post | Lakers Now Home | Next Post »

Things to watch in Lakers-Bucks matchup

6a00d8341c506253ef0134891b52d6970c-320wi1. Will the Lakers have the proper focus against Milwaukee? There are several reasons to think the Lakers' (21-7) meeting with the Bucks (10-16) at Staples Center on Tuesday at 7:30 p.m. could have the makings of a trap game. The Lakers are coming off a six-game trip, and last season demonstrated, in nail-biters against Oklahoma City and Charlotte, that the team didn't always have the proper focus on its return home. Also, the Lakers are to play Miami on Christmas Day, and if indications from ESPN tell us anything, it's kind of an important game.

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said the team hasn't even discussed this issue of focus and said he didn't see it as a problem. Guard Derek Fisher said he couldn't think of an instance, besides the Lakers' mail-it-in victory last month over Minnesota, in which the team didn't have the right attitude heading into a game. The Lakers have always had good perspective, talking about problems with a levelheaded and realistic attitude, but that doesn't always translate to the court. The start of the game will likely reveal their current mindset.

2. How will Andrew Bynum's knee respond? This is likely an area of concern for every game, considering how fickle Bynum's health can be. With his admission that his right knee remained sore after the Lakers' 120-110 victory Sunday over Toronto and Monday's practice, it'll be interesting to see whether this affects him to a significant degree.

Both Bynum and Jackson say they believe this is just a natural progression of Bynum getting back into shape, and that it's necessary to keep an even-keel about the situation. Bynum will continue to play off the bench under 20 minutes and won't start with the 30- to 35-minute range Jackson envisions until he's fully in shape. But Tuesday's game will prove critical because Andrew Bogut will prove a stiffer test than "the undermanned team" in Toronto that enabled Bynum to post 16 points on four-of-six shooting in only 19 minutes. With the Lakers beginning the tougher portion of their schedule -- starting off Saturday against Miami -- Bynum needs to walk a fine line, properly pacing himself back while also making sure he's pushing himself hard enough.

3. How does Brandon Jennings' absence affect the Bucks' dynamic? Milwaukee faces some long-term problems with Jennings expecting to miss four to six weeks because of a a fractured right metatarsal in his left foot. Jackson wouldn't divulge much on how that may change the Lakers' match-ups, but it's clear the Bucks are going to have to find ways to manufacture the team-leading 17.9 points and 5.5 assists Jennings provided in each contest. In the Lakers' 118-107 victory Nov. 16 at Milwaukee, Jennings scored 19 points on eight-of-13 shooting, thanks to uncontested drives to the basket and open mid-range jumpers. So instead of worrying about that, the Lakers will probably want to make sure they have the double presence on Bogut.

Jennings' absence puts the onus on Milwaukee to adjust (more so than on the Lakers wondering where to target the Bucks offensively). His injury puts another dent in Milwaukee's depleted lineup, which also includes the injured Carlos Delfino (sidelined since Nov. 6 because of a concussion) and Corey Maggette (concussion symptoms during Saturday's against Utah).

4. As with any game against a sub-.500 opponent, Tuesday night's matchup features a prime opportunity to build a large lead and grant the starters rest. However, this game presents a new wrinkle: It could mark Joe Smith's debut with the Lakers. He's not expected to handle heavy minutes, but seeing what he could provide for the Lakers couldn't hurt. His presence could determine whether the Lakers could absorb a limited Bynum (if necessary), whether he'd earn more playing time once Theo Ratliff fully rehabs his left knee and how quickly Derrick Caracter will be shipped to the Development League. Smith won't experience such an opportunity in the Lakers' upcoming games against Miami, San Antonio and New Orleans, so the Lakers may as well as give him some time Tuesday night.

-- Mark Medina
Twitter.com/latmedina

E-mail the Lakers blog at [email protected]

Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant moves to the basket against Milwaukee center Andrew Bogut, left, and guard John Salmons during the Lakers' 118-107 road victory Tuesday. Credit: Jonathan Daniel / Getty Images

 
Comments () | Archives (62)

The comments to this entry are closed.

Class Claaasss Claaaaaasssss
SHUT UP
thank you

Well class, we're closing in on midterms so I'd like to take this oppurtunity to once again go over the the postitives and negatives of your educational progress as we always do this time of year.

Little PJ
For the last few years I always seem to say the same thing to you at this time of year, so this should not surprise you. As teacher's assistant, should be more aware of what we're actually doing in the class on a day to day basis. That being said, I know that our students will be at their peak come Finals Week and that your tutoring skills will be the reason why.
Grade B+

Baby Kobe
My admiration for you seems to grow each school year. Other schools in our district try to minimize the standards you set but you refuse to let that distract you. A true valedictorian warrior.
Grade A+

Pauly,
You are indeed an enigma. Flashes of brilliance intertwined with glances of obtuseness. Regardless, you always seem to rebound from those purblind episodes. Grade A-

RonRon
If Pauly is an enigma, there is no word in the English dictionary that really describes your schoolwork. As I discovered last year when you aced your Final after stumbling through most of the school year's curriculum, I can only say that you totally proved wrong all predictions I had assumed. I won't make that mistake again.
Grade A

Little Odie
Your grades are in the top 95th percentile. I knew this was possible, just wasn't sure you could reach that potential before graduation. You still lose focus once in awhile, but I'm not complaining anymore.

Baby Bynum
One of these years you will have an acceptable attendance record. When you are not out being sick, you are an excellent student. Your sick-work turned-in was terrific but was late on numerous occasions
Grade I (incomplete)

Shanny
Most improved student. No one is more surprised than me. Congratulations.
Grade B+

Luke
Grade I (incomplete)


Transfer Students
Blakey, Barnsey, Theo, Smitty, Ebanks, Caracter
Coming to a new school, especially a school of such high academic standards is always a difficult situation. What I see is very promising. I'll wait till after midterms for a better read of your progress concerning your grades.
Grade I (incomplete)


Well Class that about does it, I want to...... What's that Little PJ?
I'm forgetting about Baby Fishy?
I keep thinking he went to graduate school, He's still in the class? Where is he? It seems I haven't seem him all year. Wait, I do remember seeing him once!

Well Baby Fishy, as always, your value to our class is immeasurable, truly the glue that keeps us together during the long school year, we can always count on.........

Class Claaasss Claaaaaasssss

WAKE UP
thank you

MM's back which can only mean a thousand threads a day. Quality not Quantity as Sister Mary Elephant might teach. But when a person is obviously paid by piecework, more is more or less I guess.

Anyway with AB already talking about his "twinge" after only 4 games, expect a setback sometime soon. He was right about him saying that he felt he was glued to the floor. Thank goodness he's a 7 footer, now if only RonRon was 7 feet.

The only thing I'll be watching for tonight is Bynum and the bench.


@Sister Mary - I enjoyed your post. Based on the grades you passed out I wish I had you as a teacher.


Very well said, I wholeheartedly agree - especially with your last line. Bosh is a poor-man's KG, his game is so soft it makes Pau look like Charles Oakley.

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | December 21, 2010 at 02:49 PM
-------------------------
Speaking of Charles Oakley. He had some pretty harsh things to say about Barkley...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Charles-Oakley-calls-out-Charles-Barkley;_ylt=AtjUcdluoBe6BgtiooF72t68vLYF?urn=nba-298930

Cyber and for others that are super critical of Lebron,

Where does Lebron rank among the best players in the game right now? Cyber, I asked you this after you blasted Lebron and the Heat last night and didn't get a response. A very simple question.

KobeMVP888,

you wrote: There's a balance. Remember, Phil Jackson hates losing, but he also knows what is important in the end and what it takes to get there. When we talk about the "practice season," we mean "preparation" and those who try to make it seem like we're being literal misguide everyone else.

my response: So ... since you've made a distinction b/n practice & preparation,
in the future I'd suggest that you use "preparation". It would save a lot of confusion.

Also, you're over-simplifying things.

This methodology that you espouse didn't work during the 2002 - 2003
through 2007-2008 seasons.

Let me be clear. I have seen Phil Jackson tinker throughout the regular
season during winning campaigns and losing campaigns. Yes, he does
tinker with things from the perspective of getting ready for the playoffs.

It seems to me that you are looking at things in a very arrogant manner. It
was exactly Shaq's arrogance which cost the Lakers multiple championships.
I would think that the Lakers, and thus ourselves, are best served by taking
every game seriously, taking every opponent seriously, by being very
respectful and beating the tar out of every single opponent.
Arrogance leads to complacency which leads to losing championships.
ref. 2003-2004 & 2007-2008.

Troll Man - If I got paid per thread, I'd be a millionaire. There's no quota on threads we're supposed to write. It's just about keeping the blog active. I think the items were distinguishable and necessary enough to stand on their own

great post Sister Mary-

I only have one disagreement.

I would give Kobe a "B" since he still goes on those nutty binges where he'll shoot the most ridiculous shots- one's that they did way back in the M.J. commercial whith another star, can't remember who, where they would bank it off of the ceiling.

Is it May yet?

Sister Mary Elephant - very clever post...lol...but no grade for Odom...I give Odom a solid A...but I even he is in the top 95%...believe it or not...I think he can still do better...

Troll Man - what is your definition of 'quality'...everyone at each other throat...negative or abrasive posts...it's all in the outlook brother...

On the Lakers Christmas Carole...lol...Artest was terrible and he has an actual single record out...I guess Pau only knows Christmas songs in Spanish...and I have a feeling Kobe wanted no part of this...so he just did the greeting and no singing...

mclyne - if I remember right, it was a McDonalds commercial...and it was a game of horse between Larry Bird and Michael Jordan...

Hope to see plenty of Joe Smith tonight in the 4th quarter.

I agree LRob, Sister Mary Elephant was an excellent teacher in recognizing the strong points this year. However, I would like to appeal Barnsey and Blakey, I think they did their homework, come to class daily and very cooperative to the Honors Society, they deserved the same grade as Shanny not lower than B+. Ebanks and Caracter are new transferee, hard to grade them when they're mere observers. Sasha has been dropped while Smitty is another transferee. Luke and Bynum could give this school an outstanding at the end of the year i.e. if they just show up everyday stand and deliver.

If you gave a grade to little PJ, how will u grade his nannies on his side. I think they did a fine job in scouting teams. Shanny and Odie were excellent students in the first half, basically the reason why this class is competitive and favored in the area to win it all. Where is the Achilles heel of this class? No one except themselves, once they start those mischievous things of multi-tasking, lack of focus and ignore their domineering advantage and succumbed to flippant ways in playing with the switch.

Sorry I flipped it 2x, so sensitive.

LEWSTRS
You are correct sir! I was thinking it was The Hick from French Lick, but wasn't 100% sure.

Kobe deserves an A, he's doing it with 3 fingers on the right hand(2 are out of commission from the 10 fingers that's 80%) and 85% healed on the knee. He beats Bynum who has only 75% knee and 75% heart, 21 days absent, however he's good enough to get a passing grade.

L.O. gets an A+ in my book. I really don't think he can play any better than he has.

Wow - a Sister Mary Elephant sighting.

Long time no see!

MM: More Lakers, even minutae, beats less Lakers, so please don't slow or stop your great work!

BTW, glad you didn't make 5 things to watch, sometimes there may be less, other times more... =P

- - -

LRob: Great quotes by Oak. I thought that if the Lakers had him, or a bruising PF like him in the mid-90's they would have won a couple of more rings with the Eddie/Nick crew - especially with Shaq/Kobe.

Pip though, he comes across as bitter. I always thought Michael never considered him an equal and he was jealous of MJ's relationship with Barkley when he badmouthed him.

Speaking of second-fiddle's (lol, inadvertent transition, but I'll take it! lol) I don't have a problem giving princess jimmy regular season MVP awards since he is merely a regular season player.

To me, princess is the modern-day equivalent of 'Nique or maybe even closer to Chocolate Thunder Darryl Dawkins as they both like to draw attention to themselves, but peter out come playoffs.

The princess is flashy, splashy but lacking in killer instinct, lacking in clutchness, moreover simply shrinking in tight moments - not all but most - and seemingly going into a bubble, losing focus on his teammates and trying to play 1-on-5.

No Magic Johnson - not even close. He's not Kobe either. He's no where near the top-tier, especially now that he's chosen to sub-serve Wade. Rack up numbers? yes. Use superior strength/speed? yes. Uncoverable by most defenders? yes. All-star? yes. Top-5 now? sure. But that is by default as his athleticism puts him there.

I don't like his arrogance. Don't like his brutish skill-level. Don't like his ego. Don't like his lack of refinement. Don't like that he apparently doesn't put in the gym time to improve, decided to be second-fiddle, puts his brand above his game. Don't like how he feels above everyone, I don't even like how he carries himself and his lack of devotion to his craft.

So again, top-5 of today? sure, whatever. He will never approach Kobe, not any true, proven champion like say Timmy. By choosing to become a sidekick he will always hover in the Pippen-plateau amongst all-timers in my eyes - even if he wins a ring or two with the meat...

LRob (& others) where would you guys slot him?


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

I wonder if Kobe and Labron switched teams last year, Kobe on the Cavs and Labron on the Lakers, if the playoffs and Finals would have ended up differently.

Would Kobe's Cavs have gotten by the Celts?
Would Labron and the Lakers have gotten by the Celts?

Taking it a step further, I wonder if Kobe's Cavs met Labrons Lakers in the Finals how that would have turned out.
No D West distraction.

I think Labrons Lakers would have won it all.

Regarding where LeBron ranks in terms of the best players in the game, I would say that LeBron lacks the one thing that truly great players generally have and that's the ability to discover a way to win. I watched Heat/Mavs last night and honestly, the Heat was a better team when LBJ was on the bench. They were quicker, more intense, and they moved the ball far better. LBJ has talent - he probably ranks among the top 5 in active players, but seeing him and Wade together, Wade seems like more of an impact player than LBJ. Kobe is having a tough year, but he knows how to help his team win even when he is not playing well. LBJ looked like a passive bit player last night. If I were the Heat I'd get the ball in the hands of Bosh more often - he's an excellent scorrer and has some nice moves in the paint which is where the Heat is sorely lacking. How to beat the Heat: Pack the paint and let them throw bricks from the outside. They can beat the poor teams, but when they meet Mavericks, Lakers, Celtics, Spurs - they are going to find winning very difficult.

hobbitmage

The Lakers do take every game seriously, but they can't get up for every game. There's a difference. What is important is that they get something out of every game to reach their goal of a championship even when they lose. I pointed to many of those things on the road trip: 1) They showed they can come back in the last minute against the Clips, 2) they showed they could fend off a team that comes back on them in the first Wizards game, 3) they showed they can play Eastern Conference style MMA defense when they need to against the Bulls, 4) they showed they can make second half adjustments, 5) they showed they can avenge a loss on the road against the Pacers.

Taking every game seriously does not mean they should go full bore every game; they need to improve as a unit to their stated goal: a three-peat. What is important is that they are healthy, rested, energized and ready for every situation for the playoffs. It may be "simple," but I don't think there's anything "arrogant" about that.

I'm well read and a huge fan of Phil Jackson. Call my approach "arrogant" if you wish, but frankly all you are doing is trying stir up people against me for no good reason. I have explained what I mean by the "practice season" and now all you are doing is putting a literal interpretation on it again. I even explained it in the context of what Jeanie Buss says in her book. The Octo even directed everyone to a Phil Jackson sound bit which supports what I'm talking about. Please don't spin it into something it's not. I believe I have a pretty good understanding of our team.

hobbit, I would like to take a new approach with you, so I am kindly asking you to read what you type before you post it. Calling the things I write "arrogant" is not the approach I'm looking for.

Art...with that switch, Cleveland might have won it all....

Miami's loss last night worries me...

good luck to Joe, I think he's going to be a fit

Bynum might just go off a little tonight....

Art: I would take any Kobe-led team over a princess-led one. Obviously, the Cav's had enough talent to run-away with best record two-years running. Kobe though is one of the most underrated great players at making his teammates better. How many times has he drive-and-dished, slash-and-passed and gotten his guys easy finishes at the rim?

Kobe is only 32 and has already gone to one-more Finals than MJ had. He is getting in the neighborhood of some all-time stats too, another couple of years and we'll be counting down a number of records. Without titles though, his numbers would be lessened - but when he's leading the Lakers AND winning championships - that is the difference between Kobe and the rest in this day and age.

BTW, 32 was the age that Magic was when he was forced to retire. Just imagine the stats that Magic would have rolled up had he put in another 4-5 years. Just like Gale Sayers has to be considered one of the all-time greats, so does Magic. Yes, most do consider him, but too often is he left out of top-5 or top-10 lists.

What Magic did in the '80s, the most competitive era in basketball, leading the finest team ever (the showtime Lakers) and making all his teammates better, well he is GOAT in my eyes. Kobe isn't chasing MJ, he's after Magic.


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Regarding the grades, Matt Barnes, Steve Blake, and Shannon Brown are adding up to one of the better benches I've seen in recent years. Shannon's improvement is stunning and a tribute to his work ethic. Steve is an awesome team player and could start. Matt Barnes may be my favorite - he is in the right place at the right time so often its unbelievable. He's an unselfish passer, hustle rebounder, and hits some timely 3s. I love it when these guys get into the game. They are allowing Kobe's minutes to go down and that will help huge when we get to the playoffs. I hope Bynum can make it back, if he can, the Lakers are looking good for a 3peat!

kobemvp....I enjoy your views,,,you are seeing the timeline, not the moment...
you prepare and play each game to win, but you strategize to be your best come playoff time...you teach in crunch time moments by giving lesser players opportunity....sometimes it gets ya, but in the spring, you've got a team that reaches it's potential....

I hearned that

Thank you and likewise. Even in a much shorter 16 game NFL season, teams take every game seriously, but they are human and let down. I bet in hindsight the Patriots wished they hadn't put their pedal to the metal in Game 16 against the Giants a few years back.

The brilliance of Phil Jackson is the way he monitors his teams over the 82 games schedule and somehow has them ready for the 16 win countdown. His 11 championships and 13 trips to the NBA Finals in 19 seasons is nothing short of remarkable!

I hearned that-Cyber,

You don't need to sell me on Kobe. I wasn't trying to knock him at all. There is nothing I could say that would add to how good he is and I am really glad he's a Laker, though I am a Laker fan first and a player fan second.

But if LBJ had a year of playing in the Lakers org, with Phil as his coach, I don't think the Cavs could have stopped him with a clutch Fish, Artest, Gasol and a limping Drew. I think that would have been too much for the Cavs to overcome. That is, if the Kobe Cavs could have beaten the Celts, which I am not sure they could have even with Kobe.

Just a fantasy.

I can see that, the pats had to go for it though, you don't skip that chance...

Phil is a trip, I think as he teaches through the season, he creates situations of presure, sometimes using the press. I think he learns his players limitations in those situations, and they learn the game..

Cyber,

I agree with you about Magic, totally!

Wow, another short handed team? Has there been more injuries than usual this year or have the Lakers just been lucky so far? It seems like the opponent is missing 1-2 starters in at least half of the Lakers games this year.

art..fl, didn't think you were ragging kobe, i'm probably more a player fan, then team...but a way back fan from the days players stayed....i even rooted for the celtics when they had walton, because i was such a walton fan...there is another one, had he been healthy

your point about LeBj with a year of Phil..you are probably rig ht, that would be a heck of a series....remember one thing about kobe over LeBj....Kobe brings more toughness, more man.....

bay to LA...they call that the breaks...and we've been getting them, yes

@Cyber
"Kobe isn't chasing MJ, he's after Magic."

EXCELLENT!!!

I agree 100%. Magic and Bird brought the NBA out of the dark ages and into the Golden Age. Without these two, the NBA would be a shell of it's current self.

Magic was the ULTIMATE team player. He elevated every single teammate's game to a higher level. M.J. did this as well, but not to the degree that Magic did.

Art: You touch on a great point, all coaches seem to cower to the princess. His 'posse' led by Maverick Carter puts out little tidbits when her majesty is unhappy - like when Spoelstra called him out earlier this year.

He's never played for a coach that would demand him to respect them.

He had a chance to do just that with B-Scott signing up with the Cav's, had he chosen to stay and try to be a team-leader, but I think his reasoning is he would like to be able to 'call his shot' and stomp, mope, sulk until the meat fire Spo and bring in Riles. At least that way it would seem like he was in control, that I suspect is what he seeks.

Either princess would have relented to PJ's will, or accepted his coaching - either way but he would have to run an offense. For once. Imagine how good he could be if he was actually forced to run plays - especially in tight end-of-game situations. Kobe, like MJ before him, have earned their freedom under Phil through being great clutch players, and showing they persevere in adversity.

'bron has shown to be neither clutch nor a good leader - a strong coach would demand that he stays under the offense or yank him, at least until he is proven through playoff success that he can be trusted. PJ would do that, keep him under reigns until proven. It is very unlikely that Spo would though - or risk the wrath of her majesty, as weak and petty as a leaked response from the camp of sycophants that follow her majesty is...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

CCX- I think LeBronze realized that the grass was not going to be greener on the other side the moment Pat Riley told him and the heat to get their asses back on the plane after a preseason game in New Orleans. Remember, the story goes that Lebronze and his posse wanted to stay the evening in New Orleans and leave in the morning and was utterly rejected by Riles with those "kind" words. if LeBronze wants Riley to coach, hes got another thing coming, lest we forget how Riles made the Showtime Lakers work during their run. They werent nicknamed 'Riley's Greyhounds" for nothing....

"Kobe, like MJ before him, have earned their freedom under Phil through being great clutch players, and showing they persevere in adversity.

'bron has shown to be neither clutch nor a good leader - a strong coach would demand that he stays under the offense or yank him, at least until he is proven through playoff success that he can be trusted. PJ would do that, keep him under reigns until proven. It is very unlikely that Spo would though - or risk the wrath of her majesty, as weak and petty as a leaked response from the camp of sycophants that follow her majesty is...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | December 21, 2010 at 05:08 PM "

Kobe had some issues with coaching in his career and was labeled very similarly to what you are saying about LeBron. I think it's better to judge these situations over time.

mclyne: "Magic and Bird brought the NBA out of the dark ages and into the Golden Age. Without these two, the NBA would be a shell of it's current self.

Magic was the ULTIMATE team player. He elevated every single teammate's game to a higher level. M.J. did this as well, but not to the degree that Magic did."
-
Unfortunately, we are in the minority with that opinion.

Few people understand that 5 titles in the '80s are worth more than 6 in the '90s (or dominating an 8- to 14-team league in the '60s when one has corralled an all-star team and outspent some teams 10x the order of magnitude of the current-day Yankees).

I could go on with this but will cut it short. It's kind of like looking at stats within a vacuum. For instance, I respect what Shaq did in L.A., but winning Finals MVP against the Nets is nothing compared to Finals MVP against the septics. I'm just sayin'...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

well guys just to let you know sasha is playing as normal for the nets making a stupid pass that leads to a steal and then he fouls memphis 3 point play

Cap's Goggles (83-79): "I think LeBronze realized that the grass was not going to be greener on the other side the moment Pat Riley told him and the heat to get their asses back on the plane after a preseason game in New Orleans. Remember, the story goes that Lebronze and his posse wanted to stay the evening in New Orleans and leave in the morning and was utterly rejected by Riles with those "kind" words. if LeBronze wants Riley to coach, hes got another thing coming, lest we forget how Riles made the Showtime Lakers work during their run. They werent nicknamed 'Riley's Greyhounds" for nothing...."

-

Exactly! Riles is going to *demand* compliance, *demand* work, hustle, dedication - as well as run his floundering butt off the court with his grueling practices.

Maybe her majesty will accept that coming from a proven winner like Riles. Personally, I doubt it. her majesty is more interested in controlling his surroundings and expanding the little princess brand than putting in the amount of work and dedication required to win.

I would love it if the coup of coach-Spo takes place, Riles comes in and after a couple of weeks word leaks out 'from sources close to lebron' that her majesty is unhappy about the work Riles is demanding, the fact that Riley insists winning regular-season titles is not enough, only winning rings is. I can't wait for that day to come, it will be some great stuff!


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

The New Jersey Nets are describing Sasha V. as positive energy on the bus, at practices, and in games. Too bad the Lakers and their arrogance couldn't see this.

My boys Farmar and Sasha will do great things for the Nets. I love my Lakers, but I now have another favorite team, and although it may be frustrating, I want to stand by this Nets team.

And yes, when the Nets play the Lakers, I'm rooting for the Nets. And I mean that.

Sasha 2-2, stroking it well from the outside. Coming off a big game last Sunday. To hell with Brian Shaw for running Sasha off the team.

Sasha 3-3, Nets up by 12. I'm telling you, I like this Nets team.

"well guys just to let you know sasha is playing as normal for the nets making a stupid pass that leads to a steal and then he fouls memphis 3 point play

Posted by: London Laker | December 21, 2010 at 05:30 PM "

And he's looking like 2008 Sasha with those 3 20 footers in a row.

Blake vs Farmar = Blake has proven his worth

Smith vs. Vujacic = Smith has to play but definitely great savings in the exchange.

No return, no exchange.

@troy

I wish Sasha all the best. Farmar, not so much- he rubbed me the wrong way with his attitude and constant whinning.

I think you should invest in a lot of Advil and Pepto if you're gonna stick with that Nets team. They will be near the bottom of the league for a long time.

I do respect you for putting hopes in a bad team. I'm really rooting for the Wolves because I am in awe of Love'sdetermination, Beasley's potential, and am always going to root for Rambis.

"Blake vs Farmar = Blake has proven his worth

Smith vs. Vujacic = Smith has to play but definitely great savings in the exchange.

No return, no exchange.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | December 21, 2010 at 05:46 PM "

Yeah I don't think it will have a whole lot of impact. Jordan wanted out and Blake is a quality veteran so no loss there. Vujacic, I'm not sure. He may excel now that he's getting the minutes he wants but LA has too many players already playing well and he might have never got out of his slump here anyway.

troy - you root for the Nets. Cool on you. I guess there are two types of fans: geographic and player-oriented.

Geographic are born into a team, grew up with it, and no matter where they go, there they are. Sometimes they might move and take up with their new geographic-centered team. Not so Old School, but understandable.

Then there're the player-oriented. They follow a certain player... no matter where they go. Upside and downside for that. Follow Jerry West... no problem. Follow Shaq? Um, good luck with that.

Obviously, Farmar and Sasha are your "guys," so you'll root for wherever they are. Cool. Me, I'm a geographic Old School guy. Lakers then, Lakers now, Lakers forever.

@ KobeMVP888

I think Hobbit could have said that he doesn't want the Lakers to be overconfident and not emphasize the regular season enough. He did say that you were being arrogant, but I have the sense he is talking about the Lakers and that you too may be falling into the same trap.

As I recall, the last couple of years we have spent the last quarter of the regular season struggling and limping into the playoffs. It took us a couple of rounds two years ago and we almost got caught asleep last year by Oklahoma.

The Lakers DO HAVE a sort of arrogance about them. When they lose, they almost snicker about it because they "KNOW" they are good. It's like they want to be able to choose when to apply themselves instead of sharpening their game during the year.

@Hobbit. Sorry about jumping in here uninvited and speaking for you. I know you're a smart guy. But I would LOVE it if you two actually got along! LOL.

Bay to LA,

I really wish Sasha the best because this could be his last stand in NBA. Nets may just be showcasing him as one of the pieces for Melo trade or capture his expiring contract to clear salary cap spaces. I will Sasha will do good and someone will pick up if Nets waived him at the end of the season. We have seen the best of Sasha and Farmar, they are inconsistently good players. It is good that we had but there is no more turning back. They helped the Lakers a little but also hurt also Kobe's prime.

I'm watching this game about 30 minutes delayed, but looks like the Mav's have gone in and did the same Florida two-step the Jazz did, I believe in similar back-to-back nights no-less.

Seems like good west teams beats the quote-unquote "great" leastern conference teams, at least generallly speaking...

- - -

Edwin: "We have seen the best of Sasha and Farmar, they are inconsistently good players. It is good that we had but there is no more turning back. They helped the Lakers a little but also hurt also Kobe's prime."

-

Very well said. I hope nothing but the best for them, hope they succeed, but 'inconsistent" is the key word as we didn't know what we'd be seeing from them coming into a game, a Jekyll or a Hyde performance.

This may sound harsh, but good luck and good riddance...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Sorry Bay to LA, so many typos in my previous post, I may be half asleep when I hit the post. lol!

Also I wanted to add but do not prefer to join any kind debates that Lakers need HCA this year. Imagine if we do not have the HCA last year, we could have lost the Championship in Boston or in Orlando or in Cleveland. There is nothing wrong in admitting our handicaps since we are looking back at history and history cannot be changed by series of "if's" the event already been decided. However, revisiting history is the best way to guide the future especially in avoiding those preliminary pitfalls.

Johnny V.,

You mentioned the initial round of the playoffs last year, I recall what the late Chick used to say his radio audience: the Championship team needs lots of luck 1) good health after 82 game season and maybe 20 more in the playoffs. It is a battle of attrition as part of the test; 2) lucky to eliminate the worthy opponents in the round robin. On that second one, we were lucky when Mavs, Blazers and Spurs were eliminated by both of our 2nd and3rd opponents. In the Finals, instead of meeting the two top contenders, we got the gritty leprechauns who are superb but do not have the HCA. Can u avoid being unhealthy? Hard to do, all players sustain injuries in their careers i.e. if they are playing good minutes. So that fringe of luck could be aided by the world beyond through utz prayers.

Lakers night baby-

thanx for stopping by, Milwaukee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugy0-t9QBL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vrWa3AlJuw

enjoy tonight's game-

@Cyber – I put Lebron #2 behind Kobe. I disagree with your comment that he’s lacking in the clutch. I’ve seen him deliver time and again in the playoffs. To compare his to Nique is a disservice, but to even mention Dawkins is laughable.

You also don’t give Lebron credit for his skills. He’s an exceptional passer, he has great timing and anticipation, can finish with his left hand as good as anyone in the league. Plus, he has a very good bball IQ. Yes, he is strong and fast. Shouldn't he use that to his advantage? Wilt did, MJ did, Magic did...and the list goes on.

How did you determine he had a lack of dedication to his craft? I haven’t heard that knock on him before.

I agree that Lebron forfeited the right to be in the GOAT discussion when he joined forces with DWade. So no he’s not Kobe, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a great player. BTW, can you be more specific than top 5. That's like Jordan saying Kobe is in the top 10 of guards.

LRob,

Very nicely put about Labron. I don't like him, but that doesn't really detract from his BB skills, which are plenty good.

@Art – If Lebron was on the Lakers the last two years I definitely believe they would’ve won the title.

Look at how the Cavs are performing without him. That by itself should silence the “on court” Lebron criticism.


@steve – so are you saying you haven’t seen Lebron find ways to win tough games? I’ve seen him win by scoring, passing, rebounding, blocked shots…etc. Yes he had a subpar game last night vs. Dallas, but everyone has bad games….remember Kobe’s 4th quarter vs. Battier?

Few people understand that 5 titles in the '80s are worth more than 6 in the '90s (or dominating an 8- to 14-team league in the '60s when one has corralled an all-star team and outspent some teams 10x the order of magnitude of the current-day Yankees).

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | December 21, 2010 at 05:28 PM
====

This fan understands. The Showtime Lakers lost to some of the great teams in NBA history in the NBA Finals. The '83 Sixers. The '84 Celtics. The '89 Pistons. And when they really weren't the Showtime Lakers anymore, the '91 Bulls (the team that PJ points to as his best team). Other than the Bulls, they also beat these teams.

JohnnyV

You're wrong.

JohnnyV
You're wrong.
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 21, 2010 at 07:35 PM

I'm gonna sleep on this. Not a good idea to just "react" to a pissy post eh?


Connect

Advertisement

In Case You Missed It...

Video

All Things Lakers »

Your database for all things purple and gold.

Find a Laker

Search a name

Select a season

Choose one of our lists



Categories


Archives
 

About the Bloggers


Bleacher Report | Lakers

Reader contributions from Times partner Bleacher Report

More Lakers on Bleacher Report »



Get Alerts on Your Mobile Phone

Sign me up for the following lists:


In Case You Missed It...