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Photo Caption Contest: Kobe Bryant jawing with George Hill

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One of the most visible signs of the Lakers' frustration: the team's co-captains Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher drew technical fouls in a 97-82 loss Tuesday to the San Antonio Spurs over plays that shouldn't rattle veterans.

Bryant and Spurs guard George Hill fought for position in the paint during the second quarter so they'd be in prime position for a rebound. Bryant swung his elbow and scolded Hill to "watch yourself"; Hill  then pointed the finger at Bryant and continued the fighting words.

"I don't feel like I need to back down from anyone," Hill told the San Antonio Express-News' Jeff McDonald about Bryant, who also jawed with LeBron James during the Christmas Day loss against Miami, drew four technicals in the last four games and was ejected in a double-digit loss last week to Milwaukee. "If he's going to elbow me, I know I've got him where I want him."

Meanwhile, Fisher ran to halfcourt to confront Richard Jefferson during the third quarter after he was pushed from behind. Rather than plead his case to the referees over the non-call, Fisher voiced his displeasure directly to Jefferson.

“We’re all just a little moody, that’s all,” Bryant told Fox Sports' Billy Witz. “Fish picked up a technical tonight, and he’s the basketball equivalent of Barack Obama. Everybody’s a little moody right now.”

(On a side note, what's up with Sean Elliott's outright homerism in the video above? He appeared at his most unprofessional when he constantly addressed Lakers forward Lamar Odom as "Mr. Kardashian.")

The best captions to the photo at the top will be featured in a post on Thursday.

-- Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

 
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Edwin G.

I get what you're saying. Well, whatever is done, in this way or that
something HAS to be done. There has to be a MESSAGE sent some how some way.

I don't like how mm keeps using this pic. I mean why can't the one where Kobe stepping up to hill be used?

Pointing at hill*

Hill: Smell my finger.

@EDWIN... “Who is the real fair weather fan?” What is your motivation for always criticizing me for being optimistic, Edwin? To me, the real fair weather fan is someone like you who wants Phil to fire all of the assistant coaches. If you want to see the glass as half empty, fine with me but get off your holier than thou ass and stop criticizing me just because you cannot see through the disappointment and discouragement of a few losses early in the season and realize that we still have a long way to go and all the Lakers have to do is play to their potential to three-peat. If you prefer to slap your friends in the face and espouse the negativity and chicken little stances of the trolls, haters, doubters, and the rest of the fair weather fans, then so be it. It’s your loss.
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TOM

I don't like how mm keeps using this pic. I mean why can't the one where Kobe stepping up to hill be used? Posted by: Magia32 | December 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!

You know, even my down-on-their-luck PHX SUNS have smacked LA this season.

A win over coby and company just ain't what it used to be.

BTW, George Hill is good but he's no Raja when it comes to handing out the punishment.

"You mean put THIS finger, in that little pie-hole...I don't think so.

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-Modified repost compost-

Not saying he doesn’t have phenomenal skills, of course he does.

But 27 shots, and 21 points? When does it stop?
And when are you going to stop blaming the rest of the team
for ‘lack‘ of effort,
when they were clearly outclassed by a superior Spurs team?
They played hard and were able to stay even with a great team,
briefly, until they ran out of gas. This was bound to happen,
just as I’ve been saying ad nauseam for months.

It is the rest of the team that Kobe and Laker fans
should be crediting for a great two year run,
and an opportunity for ‘The Mamba’ to almost be the ‘King’
(came up short) and peddle his pathetic ego,
much to the delight (let’s have another look at the roll call)
of, let’s just say, many of your cut.

There are dozens of players in the league with incredible skills,
who, if they were allowed to jack up as many shots over a career as the Saint,
especially in critical moments, on a ‘marquis’ team,
would likewise knock down plenty of circus shots,
game winners, and score a ton of points, just as the Saint has done.
They’d also miss a bunch too. Score: 8 hits. 27 misses. Incredible.
Nothing new here. And you love him for it.

I realize, through sheer numbers and glitz,
that being able to manipulate the media and league,
and virtually steal great players from other teams
is a badge worn with honor by many Laker fans.
But this time around, as you deconstruct your team,
maybe you’ll show a little honor.

Not.

What was I thinking. Rings are all that matter!

Mr Medina,
I do believe you may have stepped just a bit far over-the-line
this time around. The donut crew is going to cream you.
Kobe is God. Don’t you know that by now?

Go Sacramento Kings of Basketball!
Go Ducks!
Go Singletary...go, go, go...far away!
Go Manny, go!
Go Hill!

Sonnybelfast


Sean Elliot and all the NBA are getting their licks in after 3 years of dominance by the Lakers, But that's OK, that's their right, they better get them in now, because if they get this ship together, my lakers ain't gonna have no mercy on any of them.

"Pull my finger if you want to know what 21-10 smells like"

Aren't you supposed to be asleep right now? Isn't it night time over there where no one cares where you're at?
Go to sleep sonny, go to sleep and dream about us.

"thats what winning smells like"

Kobe is God. Don’t you know that by now? Posted by: Sonnybelfast | December 29, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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SONNY!!!! You have finally seen the Light my brother. And the truth will set you FREE!!! LOL!

Aren't you supposed to be asleep right now? Isn't it night time over there where no one cares where you're at? Go to sleep sonny, go to sleep and dream about us. Posted by: Magia32 | December 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I brought in kobe and gave you gasol. what else do i need to do? i am too old to go out and show you how to play.

Nothing to see here; everything's fine; regular season doesn't count

/sarcasm

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I’M ON BOARD UNTIL THE TRAIN COMES OFF THE TRACKS…AND THE ONLY TRACKS THAT COUNT
ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNER-J – OWNER - So here's the deal. We true Laker fans are sticking by this team and this coach...no matter what. Maybe their time is indeed over...but maybe it isn't. And you better pray that you're right. Because if our STILL WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS do get it together, there is going to be some serious payback happening...both in the playoffs, and on this blog. . I'm on board until the train comes off the tracks...and the only tracks that count are in the playoffs. Carry on, my friend.

(26) THE TRIANGULATOR - I may believe that aliens have stolen our BB skills, but I do know it'll all be back before the playoffs. How many wins did the Lakers have on their road to the three-peat in 2002? It's not about the regular season and home court advantage, while nice, isn't a necessity. A healthy team is a necessity. With that said, I would shakeup the lineup a few games to spice things up. At the worst, it would make a few more losses bearable. At its best, it could energize the team. Trolls, we banish thee back under the 3rd Street Bridge whence yee came from!!!
(27) CARTER - Sean Elliot and all the NBA are getting their licks in after 3 years of dominance by the Lakers, But that's OK, that's their right, they better get them in now, because if they get this ship together, my lakers ain't gonna have no mercy on any of them.

sean elliot is the worst

MM - we are here. Us loyal Laker fans. And we have to endure the slings and arrows of outrageous trolls and haters. Whatever. But to have to look at a pic where Kobe is the one being pointed at by a freaking scrub???? Come on now. You're not doing any of us loyal supporters any favors, and you're certainly not doing 'the love' proud.

The most disconcerting thing isn't that the Lakers are losing, but that they're losing by large margins. Every player is going to have their struggles, but very few of them are finding ways to still do something on the floor when something isn't working. Instead of Kobe firing shots to get himself out of a shooting slump, why not try to set up teammates. Instead of Pau saying the ball needs to go inside, why not fight more for offensive rebounds? The Lakers need to just go back to the fundamentals and work from there. Like a computer, they need to reboot the system

I answered your comment in the other thread LT. Think it over again ur position my friend why you become a lightning rod, all I'm saying attack their message not the messengers.

Thanks Wallace for being concerned, well I'm not the kind of blogger who will go toe to toe on my friend in this blog. However, I am not afraid to hide my feelings and let it be known. After all, this is just a game whether we're winning or losing there are teachable lessons and learn something from it.

"I've heard you're due for an ass whipping, and you're number one on my list".

This pic is too easy.

That classic beady-eyed moronic expression only the Saint can deliver.

Take it down Mark, you're killing us.

Sonnybelfast

@JAMF - I'm not sure what it is you want me to do. The Lakers aren't playing well right now. There's no other way to put it. Plus, I thought this was an interesting and I hadn't done one of these in a while now

The only prayer now is that the Lakers somehow re-discover their winning ways and start getting hot in the second half of the season. Then perhaps they can ride their momentum into playoff success.

Winning 3 straight titles is not easy. The Magic Johnson era Lakers fell just short of doing it... MJ's Bulls had a lot less competition as did the Shaq era Lakers. Nowadays there's 4 or 5 legit contenders which is far more than Magic, MJ, or Shaq faced in their 3 peat years.

I have officially adjusted my expectations down. At best we find a way to win throughout the second half leaving the misery behind, and then there's a fighting chance to win a title on the road (something that historically only happens like 30% of the time)

@LakerTom – I agree the silver lining was Bynum’s improved play. Like I stated before, I won’t fully judge this team until Drew’s by in the starting lineup and Pau’s is moved back to PF.


As far as Mbenga is concerned. I was one of those that preferred keeping him as opposed to signing Theo. Of course, this wouldn’t make a big difference. But right now any few minutes he could have given the Lakers would’ve helped.


Kobe has had bad shooting games before and games where his rage gets the best of him. But that mentality is what also makes him one of the GOAT…so no worries…he’ll bounce back appropriately.

Kobe to Hill: How many rings do I have?


Hill starts counting....1....

MM - ummmmm how about showing the one where Kobe's in the scrub's face instead of the one above? That would be a good place to start.

Sonny "Black Mamba" Belfast

Posted by: no mo' platitudes | December 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Gotta admit...You really know how to hurt a guy.

Sonnybelfast

MM,

Sean Elliott has called Lamar that every game since he got married. He even said he would call him that from now on. But I'm sure he wouldn't want someone to call Tony Parker by his wife's maiden name. It definitely disrespectful and I can guarantee he wouldn't call Lamar that to his face. I would like someone in the media to challenge him on this. (Can you or one of your co-workers do this the next time they play. Maybe it a job for Simmers?)


Anyway his homerism is even more annoying than his name calling.

@JAMF - Kobe is pretty well in George's face there....

ROFL at Lamar Kardashian. He got the ugly sister.

The Pollyanna bloggers out there are still delusional - living in the past. In case none of you know how life works - bad habits often practiced make for bad habits in the future (games). Good habits now = good habits later. Simple but true.


Something I have repeated for months now is that PJ has lost his touch with this team, as if anything we say here matters to anybody who can do anything about it. LOL. (Venting, I guess is what we get to do here.) Even some of the Pollyannas recognize that PJ's stubborness on many issues is killing the team from coaching expectations: reluctant timeouts; Fish loyalty to a fault; KB deference/then dissing his shots; not requireing starters to practice regularly resulting in what we see now in games - disjointed; etc.


As much as I love KB, he is forcing shots when covered, many times because he rarely has an outlet man coming to the ball (Basketball 101 folks). Until the TEAM helps him out, he will continue to jack up shots, as a HoFer should, but not in traffic, please. He is about 80% on his lift, which is why he cannot clear those hands and arms on him for a decent FG %.


So, because Pau is back (did he ever actually leave) to his weak based, weak ups, weak shot execution, KB has no help from his other legitimate All-Star. Damn! I was 6'6" and could still dunk without another 6" of height and 2" of reach that Pau has! 'Throw it down big man. Throw it down!' as Bill Walton always says. Damn the finger rolls! Pau you are not Wilt!


Apparently the NBA refs have left the rule book back at the motel when they call a Lakers game. It is/alwats has been a foul when a Tim Duncan or other big is actually laying full body on Pau or Drew!!! It is easy to flick away an entry pass when you are part of your opponents body and giving ZERO space between your body and his. This is still an over the back or defensive foul on every other game we watch on NBA League Pass, except the Lakers. Kobe has the same problem, but he takes action even to a T, if he has to. The refs let San Antonio whack the Lakers including Kobe, Fish, AB, Pau to death on their wrists and mostly on their forearms. These are NOT part-of-the-ball folks! This is why Pau gets so discouraged that he takes himself out of the game. He cannot catch a foul call until they actually almost break one of his bones. This is also why Kobe has been racking up Techs recently - no balanced game calling = Kobe getting mad = Kobe tech when he complains (legitimately). I mean really folks, when you play and are not getting legitimate calls don't you either get mad (Kobe) or get down on the game (Pau)? Who can blame them.


Until PJ takes a few techs railing on the refs and stands up to be a part of the TEAM, the Lakers will continue their downward spiral. PJ acts/talks that all the results of the bad games are on the players! He does have a role and is not doing it!!!


@LROB... I agree that Kobe will get his act together. He is too smart not to and Phil is to wise not to keep pushing him and the rest of the team in the right direction. Ultimately, I am not worried about Kobe. He understands the game and has already started to rein in his outrage. The key is still Drew. If he can stay healthy and continue to progress like we saw last night, the Lakers will be fine and will be able to three-peat. The season is still a marathon, not a sprint.
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@EDWIN...Frankly, I am tired of being singled out by you and other apologists for the fair weather fans who want to trade the entire team, fire all the coaches, and give up before the real race has begun. So don’t expect any apologies for me for speaking what is on my mind. As far as I am concerned, those fans who want to abandon ship are more than welcome to jump off and come shamefully crawling back with their tails between their legs and crow in their throats. I support my team and the fans who support my team and could care less about the others.
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TOM

Caption:

"If David Stearn hadn't dictated the Spurs/Heat as his Finals matchup, you would have fouled out of this game, son."

Save me room on the 'sky hasn't fallen' bandwagon.

There's rough waters in every long voyage, I tend to think that Phil is giving this veteran team a lot more time to dig themselves out than otherwise.

I've decided to read every single word posted since last night, both positive and negative. Maybe this is my penance, lol. These are the best ones:

[edit: My god, 90+ minutes of reading, but great, great stuff. We truly have an awesome blog here, it's truly 'Laker Central' with not only the breadth of reactions, but intelligence and true Laker-knowledgeable fans! Even the 'trolls' have offered up some tasty nuggets. Great stuff for those like myself and Art were overwhelmed by the sheer number. Consider this the cliff-notes of the Spurs game reaction then...]

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Broderick Turner: "Kobe Bryant was angry at his teammates after the loss to the Heat. It'll be interesting to see where he directs his anger this time.
Maybe he'll point the finger at himself. Bryant scored 21 points, but was just eight for 27 from the field. He also had five turnovers and was given a technical foul.
At one point, Bryant missed 13 consecutive shots from early in the first quarter to the third quarter. He made two in a row in the fourth, but then missed his last four before taking a seat on the bench with just over two minutes left."

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Mark Medina: "Through it all, Bryant refused to adjust to game scenarios, going one of of five in the third quarter, using three consecutive jumpers in the fourth quarter as false comfort he could lift the team back and even at one point waving away a screen so he could dribble and post up despite meeting double coverage.
"If I was playing, I probably wouldn't pass him the ball the next time," Jackson told reporters.
All this disjointed mess points to the top where there's very little leadership and direction... Jackson's hands-off approach resulted in his players running around aimlessly.
The Lakers can solve these problems. But as they painfully found out in a critical game against a Western Conference team, that task requires a foundation and not an off/on switch."

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mike bright: "I remember Pat Riley saying he could no longer get through to the great team he had so he moved on. Playing for Jackson is tantamount to playing for a mummy. It is time to move on and thanks Phil."

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bronxlakerfan: "Don't the Lakers read the scouting reports? Those 3's are a big part of SA's game plan. I'm glad to see Bynum taking it to the rack hard."
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"in the words of John Wooden, "Activity does not necessarily mean achievement."

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laker lurker: "Anyone in the Laker organiztion have the guts to stop Kobe. His selfish dribbling, poor shooting, massive turnovers and forced shots will leave us a six or seven seed in the West. His desire to "take over" a game in the first quarter allows noone else to get in rythm. If he can't adjust his game to his sliding skills it will be a long season and couple years till he retires."

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LongTimeLakerFan: "enough talk about "we need to improve our defense". Defense wasn't bad in this game, especially when Bynum was on the floor and challenging shots. The biggest problem for the fourth game in a row was offense."
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"At least in the first half of this game, with Kobe (not to mention Artest) playing aggressively, they played with the Spurs and took a lead to halftime.
Yes, Kobe shot poorly, but you can't pin the whole loss on him."

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no mo' platitudes: "Lakers improved exponentially!
Bucks - 79 points
Heat - 80 points
Spurs - 82 points"

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Hugo Boss: "-Tell PJ to start someone else besides Fish or he goes to Montana early
-Bynum showed some return in his strength except "when he looked like Shaq" at the free throw line (Quote courtesy of Lakers4Realz)"

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Sean: "Can anyone blame Kobe for those shots? Really? I'll take Kobe missing jumpers than Gasol missing bunnies, Odom missing bunnies. "

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RIZZO: "Feisty practice helps us get T'd up nothing else. We do not accept this half-assed effort as LAKER basketball."

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Alex V: "Lakers coaching staff showing how out of tune they are to their defenseless back court. Phil said Lakers were ready for the Spurs, but their guards got absolutely outclassed."

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The Triangulator: "Bench Pau and Kobe for the rest. Start Drew to get in playing shape. Start Blake and Barnes with Odom, Drew and Brown. What's the worst that can happen? Lose 5 straight. Or maybe, just maybe a team might begin to form..."

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Ben: "Kobe's a selfish, 3 faced narcissistic creep with an alienating personality." (couldn't resist including this one... lol)

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Troll Man: "at least derek fisher had more assists than points tonight, 3-2"

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Ron Artest is Living off his name: "Worst game I've ever seen Kobe play. Ever."

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Lakers4realz: "i am tired of seeing kobe try to shoot his way out..he needs to concentrate on being a facilitator. but that is hard when he isnt hitting shots.......consistently."

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G in DC(aka GDUB): "both PJ and the Black Mamba have gotta address whatever is wrong and make whatever changes are necessary to get the team back on track quickly or things could get VERY ugly real fast. Like I said, I'm not giving up on the team...just keepin' it real."

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Job: "I'd rather see the Lakers blow teams out in their last 10-15 games, come in 100% healthy... if there is no way we can have home court in the finals, might as well start practicing in the WC playoffs. I'd rather be peaking in April, May, and June, than at 30 games in, like several other teams we can mention. "

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Mark: "The Lakers are looking out of sync, they look slow, or old."

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Jolly Joe: "What part of the Triangle offense has its best feature being Ron Artest pulling up for 3 pointers, Artest taking one bounce pull up jump shots or Steve Blake taking fall away 3 pointers from the corner with a defender climbing all over him??
Phillip better get to coaching these felllas up a little bit or it will be a Cancun June"

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dewey: "The Lakers look worse than in the Sedale Threatt years...
I've never seen a supposedly "contending" Laker team ever look so bad. Ever."

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Boogie389: "I have nothing but love for Fish, but the Lakers need a young point guard who can penetrate to the middle to help free up some easier shots for Kobe (ex. Magic and Byron Scott)"

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mclyne: "Phil is not panicking, yet. He should be- I'm sick of his Zen Garbage philosophy. Do something to shake this team up, anything!!!!!! You don't get paid 12 MILLION a year to let them "figure things out on their own," all of the time.
The sky is not falling, but I feel like I'm in a nightmare everytime I watch my team play."

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Tony: "stop with Kobe bashing garbage. If the team would play like they care; he would not feel the need to try and carry the team."

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Bart: "the league is much more balanced this year than in previous years and if Kobe thinks he can get this club to the finals again by taking 10-12 3's per game he is sorely mistaken. Horrible, horrible performance."

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DwnTwnAtty: "Everybody chill! Nobody has ever lost the championship because of a bad stretch of games in December."

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Markin: "The lakers have been in the finals the last 3 years. It is very difficult to play with such focus without struggling in order to win 3 straight titles."

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Bag Tie: nobody blamed that emotionless Phil Jackson, like he's immuned of failure... he's the only coach who doesn't know how to use new energy and new talent. Not that Ebank or Character would have reversed Laker's misfortune or something, it's just that he's the only coach who does not know how to develop draft picks."

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OCLEZY: "OH NO WE SUCK AGAIN!What's going on with you lakers SNAP OUT OF IT.And Black mamba my man you looking like a garden snake right now.Maybe Phil needs to work some of that zen on them or give out books cause they need a quick kick in the but or something.This is unlike a 2time def champion, we look like chumps."

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Shrine: "It's December you morons. "Trade Kobe" and "Can Phil" c'mon...MIA and SA are good teams. Your probably the same ones who said the Laker's would go 82-0."

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DOC4DaLakeShow: "Let's calm down a bit here....maybe this is what is needed...to be humbled totally (as miami was early in the season) so these guys can see they can't just mail in wins and finally get back to playing serious basketball."

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phred: "I am worried about Kobe. He's not shooting well. I'm less worried about Pau, because if his problem is that he's playing soft or lackadaisical that means he can play better, and I'm not even sure if he has that much of a problem"

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TNTLakerFan: "There are problems, yes, but they are correctable. I would like to see us playing inside-out rather than outside-in. This could free up shooters, and increase the percentages from outside. As far as defensively, we really aren't that bad. It's our offense that needs improvement. I don't know what we are running, but it is not the triangle."

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Kevin Spencer: "if this was after the all-star break then there would be need to worry.."

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Yaya: "Well, at least they had a "feisty" practice lol. Kobe calling out his teammates probably didn't help."

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jay W: "only concern is that if the Lakers does not finish the season at the top three best record . It's going to be very tough for the Lakers to Win it all."

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Dean Goldy: "My money is on Kobe doesn't sleep well tonight after the loss, the question is, will his teammates?"

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LRob: "Now that the Lakers realize they're can't blame this loss on
boredom (Milwaukee), Christmas (Miami) or lack of effort (SA)...I expect the team to get down to the biggest problem and that's lack of execution and attention to detail."

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Mitch: "The lakers need to acqiure a decent perimeter shooting threat. Teams will continue to pack the lane on Gasol, Bynum, and Odom until they get burned consistently from the 3 point line."

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pfunk36: "As this losing continues.........(and it will continue) Sooner or later Phil Jackson has to become the object of scrutiny.................How he manages to escape it speaks to the dumbed down effect of our local media."

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Jim T: "i actually think it's funny that the lakers are on this losing streak...good for them cocky sob's. They think they are just going to cruise through and 3peat. Get your heads out of your azz!!"

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Edwin Gueco: "After 40 years following the lakers, i'm not ready to say quits but just hope that talent will come tomorrow or the next game. no need to say any further criticisms because the game speaks for itself. it is not worth to say anything when u witness that all chips are down. just watch and pray that the jinx will be soon be broken."

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Joe_Corad: "The only thing you can take out of the Lakers losing is that they are not playing good basketball. I don't see how the Lakers lose mean that they are done and will lose in the 1st round, 2nd round or in the Finals."

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Rick Friedman: "I'm betting that Phil has chosen to let his team fail enough times, so that they'll actually pay attention when he starts coaching. All these players who think they know it all because they have one or two rings, may finally be waking up this morning ready to listen. Good idea."

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yellofever: "What I saw last night was pure COACHING BRILLIANCE by Popovich last night. While phil was again ASLEEP at the wheel waiting for a certain somebody to bail him out again Popovich just put on a COACHING CLINIC and was busy goin to work.. Popovich is a master of making adjustments (as he showed in second half) and exploiting the right matchups and last night was no difference."

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PsychedLakerGirl: "Think PJ is okay with these losses. He is an astute reader of the competition. During camp, PJ said Dallas and SAS were going to be good this year. So far, he's read it correctly."

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Magia32: "I'm thinking tonight the rest of the Lakers are gonna see how hard life is without Kobe. I'm thinking zero attempts in the first quarter and maybe 2 or 3 in the second."

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Lakerholic: "I am not looking forward to tonight’s game. It is painful to watch. When they are playing well and get beat by a team that is having a great night that is one thing, but they haven't been competing. If they could just leave it all on the floor, even if they lose, I wouldn't be that upset."

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Art - FL Lakers Fan: "Good grief, I can't keep up with trying to read all the posts, too many." LOL

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zopi: "I get it. The Lakers will be happy with a 6th or 7th seed, as long as they're in the playoffs, right? That's when it matters?"

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GG: "Kobe playing 1 vs. 5; Why? He was making all of his open, spot-up shots, so why not pass the ball around, find your spot on the floor, and wait for the open spot-up shot! Why do you have to dribble and shoot 23 of the 24 seconds?... This is not Lakers basketball, it's not even TEAM basketball...it's a travesty and disrespect to all the Lakers teams in history."

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DKWSFO: "The Lakers haven't been moving the ball well. Players hold the ball - especially Kobe, looking to make a move to score or pass. Meanwhile, the defense keys in - especially on Kobe. Isn't the triangle predicated on ball movement? Where is the coaching?"

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kilgary: "Kobe has not been the same player since Jordan Farmar's pass broke his index finger last season. He should have shut it down then and there for 2 months."

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Seely_IGGY: "What's missing is not just guts and desire, but the team skills they need to get going again... something else needs to take over, something much more fundamental - that's basic team competencies to harness and fully utilize the various talents we have."

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Andy L: "how come we can't clog the lane and box out for rebounds? Now we're getting the "best" of both worlds: Open shooters and opponents claiming the rebounds. Nice going!"

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justanothermambafan: "It's only December for pete's sake. They have too much talent and pride in themselves to be satisfied with the way things are going and not do something about it."

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LakerTom: "The silver lining to last night’s loss in my opinion was the continually improving play of Drew, although I do admit to screaming at him after he missed those four free-throws. You could see an immediate improvement in our interior defense and post offense with Drew in the game...
"Kobe needs to stay within the triangle and work without the ball to get open rather than just calling for the ball over and over in heavy traffic. We need to get back to efficiently running the Triangle Offense rather than playing isolation ball. And Kobe needs to rein in his rage."

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Wallace: "I think Kobe is mad at Pau for not being a man in the middle and not defending the paint like he should"

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NewMexicoLL: "Nothing like hearing from TJ Simers when we lose. Where are you when we win?" (so true!)

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hobbitmage: "Kobe is trying to find a way through the wall."

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Fen: "Gasol looks like an ostrech that fell out of a nest " (LOL, and I always thought he resembled big bird on Sesame Street, you might be right though...)

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Tim-4-Show: "I have officially adjusted my expectations down. At best we find a way to win throughout the second half leaving the misery behind, and then there's a fighting chance to win a title on the road (something that historically only happens like 30% of the time)"

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and I saved what I thought was the very best post for last:

LongTimeLakerFan: So for the people who are whining that Jordan would NEVER have done this...

Right now the Lakers are 21-10 after their first 31 games.

In 1993, the third year of their first 3peat, Jordan's Bulls were 22-9 after 31. They finished the season as the two seed in the East, and beat the top seeded Knicks (without HCA) before facing the Suns (AGAIN without the HCA) to win the 3rd ring.

In 1998, the third year of their second 3peat, Jordan's Bulls were 21-10 after 31 games. They managed to close strong and finish as the top seed in the East, but Utah had home court advantage for the finals.

So Kobe's Lakers are playing the tail end of the hat trick pretty much EXACTLY like Jordan's Bulls.

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GREAT STUFF!!!!!

AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

I don't know why it is that I feel like...

Well I feel that in a weird way I'm truly responsible for the Lakers recent loosing streaks.
I know that its impossible, but remember feeling that I was connected with this team last year more strongly than ever and that I could influence players from afar. Ever since I got a new job I haven't been able to see the games. But next year after February I will be able to watch them on DVR when I move out of my parents house into a new home. Is it coincidence that they've gone on loosing streaks exactly since I got rid of my DVR??? Logic tells me yes, but my heart says NO.
It is true that we are all connected spiritually, but I fear that the deep connection i once had and haven't used lately is causing this. If this is so, and the Lakers start winning at the end of January or early February then I know it was always me...
Does anyone feel similar to me???

My solution is simple:

Insert Luke to replace Artest and replace Odom with Bynum.
Easy frigging formula!!!!!!!! CHEMISTRY WOULD BE NEXT!!!!!!

The Pollyanna bloggers out there are still delusional - living in the past. In case none of you know how life works - bad habits often practiced make for bad habits in the future (games). Good habits now = good habits later. Simple but true.


Something I have repeated for months now is that PJ has lost his touch with this team, as if anything we say here matters to anybody who can do anything about it. LOL. (Venting, I guess is what we get to do here.) Even some of the Pollyannas recognize that PJ's stubborness on many issues is killing the team from coaching expectations: reluctant timeouts; Fish loyalty to a fault; KB deference/then dissing his shots; not requireing starters to practice regularly resulting in what we see now in games - disjointed; etc.


As much as I love KB, he is forcing shots when covered, many times because he rarely has an outlet man coming to the ball (Basketball 101 folks). Until the TEAM helps him out, he will continue to jack up shots, as a HoFer should, but not in traffic, please. He is about 80% on his lift, which is why he cannot clear those hands and arms on him for a decent FG %.


So, because Pau is back (did he ever actually leave) to his weak based, weak ups, weak shot execution, KB has no help from his other legitimate All-Star. Gee-whiz! I was 6'6" and could still dunk without another 6" of height and 2" of reach that Pau has! 'Throw it down big man. Throw it down!' as Bill Walton always says. Get rid of the finger rolls! Pau you are not Wilt!


Apparently the NBA refs have left the rule book back at the motel when they call a Lakers game. It is/always has been a foul when a Tim Duncan or other big is actually laying full body on Pau or Drew!!! It is easy to flick away an entry pass when you are part of your opponents body and giving ZERO space between your body and his. This is still an over the back or defensive foul on every other game we watch on NBA League Pass, except the Lakers. Kobe has the same problem, but he takes action even to a T, if he has to. The refs let San Antonio whack the Lakers including Kobe, Fish, AB, Pau to death on their wrists and mostly on their forearms. These are NOT part-of-the-ball folks! This is why Pau gets so discouraged that he takes himself out of the game. He cannot catch a foul call until they actually almost break one of his bones. This is also why Kobe has been racking up Techs recently - no balanced game calling = Kobe getting mad = Kobe tech when he complains (legitimately). I mean really folks, when you play and are not getting legitimate calls don't you either get mad (Kobe) or get down on the game (Pau)? Who can blame them.


Until PJ takes a few techs railing on the refs and stands up to be a part of the TEAM, the Lakers will continue their downward spiral. PJ acts/talks that all the results of the bad games are on the players! He does have a role and is not doing it!!!


Sorry about the double post. Not my usual style.

MM,

you wrote:
Every player is going to have their struggles, but very few of them are finding ways to still do something on the floor when something isn't working. Instead of Kobe firing shots to get himself out of a shooting slump, why not try to set up teammates. Instead of Pau saying the ball needs to go inside, why not fight more for offensive rebounds? The Lakers need to just go back to the fundamentals and work from there. Like a computer, they need to reboot the system

my response: I agree with some of this.

re: Kobe shooting. So ... every superstar jumpshooter-turned-commentator
has said that shooters need to keep shooting to get hot. [ Reggie Miller &
Kenny Smith are the two that immediately spring to mind. J. West also ]

re: setting up teammates. So there was that thing about effort ... You touch
on that by "fighting for rebounds". So ... do you honestly think that
someone has come to Kobe and said, "I have a mismatch give me the ball." ?
Pau is not playing like he's got a mismatch. D-Fish certainly won't. That
leaves LO & Artest. Do I *really* have to say anything about either?
[ Don't take this to mean that LO is playing badly. ]

Maybe LRob, the "Man of the Hour" can go further in his analysis of how UPS is an incredible player.

Posted by: no mo' platitudes | December 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM
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no mo, Sorry but I never said Shannon was an incredible player. So if you want to quote me get it right....but for the record let me summarize what I've said about Shannon is the last 5 months...

1. The Lakers need to re-sign him because no one else brings the athleticism and energy he can bring.

2. It looks like he'll get more $ elsewhere and I certainly wouldn't blame him for leaving.

3. It looks like his relationship with Monica has had a positive effect on him.

4. Spartan nation was happy with his production at MSU. He was a very good scorer, a top defender and helped the team get to a final 4 while there. Coach Izzo called him a very hard worker.

5. His ballhandling and feel for the game are subpar. Some guys have a great feel for the game and others don't (Shannon is in that latter category). I next area I expect him to improve in is his defense.

FYI....he's currently avg 10pts per game and shooting 43% from 3pt. I like his contributions.

Ouch once told me what a friend of his said MSU was disappointed with Shannon's performance there. I gave him the real scoop. And now with you bringing this up.......well it don't take Perry Mason to solve this case.

First he has to step down from the HIGH Chair. It is also easier to get Techs when screaming on the sideline and being in the refrees face.

Posted by: no mo' platitudes | December 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Do refs give techs for snoring too loud?

last nights refs might have.

I hate Tuesday Fan Night because if the Lakers are playing anybody, they are on 216, and we get to hear two rabib Laker haters (McHale and Webber) being "balanced" commentators. What a joke! And I hate the Spurs homer announcers even more than Heinsohn/Celtics! Elliot is the worst! At least you who are in LA can listen to the radio feed and get something approaching a balanced game case.

NO MEANS NO KOBE!!

@Nuggets Country....

Totally agree about the putrid refereeing in most of the Laker games. I realize that PJ is not a screamer, but he needs to get on the refs sometimes and support his players. Kobe is getting chopped EVERY GAME WITH NO CALLS!! OR NOT ENOUGH CALLS!! NBA refs now have the right to be horrible because of King David's new technical rules.

@Mark Medina...

Sean Elliott is probably the worst homer in the NBA announcing corps. No, he's second. Tommy Heinsohn is THE worst. But Sean is gunning for his title. Sean is the man they invented the mute button for!

I've heard some great rebuttal from Justa, Corner J and others. Many thanx to Mamba24 and others, who, while expressing their displeasure about the team's recent play, never lose sight of the big picture. I side with those folks. I'm a diehard Laker fan and I will be for the duration.

Just watch, tonight with Kobe possibly not shooting much
We're gonna get gasol and the Grizzlies vs N.O tonight.

NuggetsCountry: "I hate Tuesday Fan Night because if the Lakers are playing anybody, they are on 216, and we get to hear two rabib Laker haters (McHale and Webber) being "balanced" commentators. What a joke! And I hate the Spurs homer announcers even more than Heinsohn/Celtics! Elliot is the worst! At least you who are in LA can listen to the radio feed and get something approaching a balanced game case."
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Don't know if Webb is quite as big a Laker 'hata' as McFail is, at least he would be vocalizing the most pro-Laker positions on NBA TV for the last couple years - but yeah, I get the gist of what you're saying.

In L.A. they black-out the Tuesday Fan Night games, I like to watch them on replay though as Ernie and crew give us some different opinions than Stu/Joel. If they have Sean Elliot and the San Antonio feed then it is going to make it that much more unpleasant to watch though - I really can't stand him lol.

Heinsohn is a joke nowadays, he's become soooooo much a homer, it's truly pathetic - like an SNL skit gone awry. I don't think there has ever been a foul on a Celtic in the past 30 years according to him, any and every call against the green are wrong...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Regarding the technicals, Lakers are almost last in the league in technicals. So if technicals are what show how bad the officiating is on a team, the Lakers have it pretty good.

Cyber,

LOL, that was pretty good. Wish I knew you were going to do that, could have saved a lot of time just waiting for your recap!!

When I got to the blog this morning and saw the almost never ending stream of comments I thought holy crap, something really big must have happened.

Anyway, it took me quite a while to read through only to find out nothing big happened, the Lakers just lost another game.

I also read through some of the other Laker blogs and people are coming out of the woodwork upset with the way the team is playing. And they have every right to be upset..

But that's ok, I think everyone has every right to post their opinion and to voice it as often as they wish.

Voicing criticism does not make one less of a fan. They just see things a bit differently and are expressing their frustration. The frustration and criticism is coming from the feeling generated watching this team play.

They have as much right to be here and say what they want as anyone else.

Laker fans can hope the Lakers start doing better and make a run through the playoffs. But that's the best we can do. No one knows how this season is going to turn out.

And those who have given up on the season can give up. There's no blog rule that says to be allowed to post here you must only post glowing and/or hopeful comments about the Lakers.

Anyway, nice cross section of comments you picked, it captures the sentiment.
And like I said earlier, Phil should just print out the blog posts and make all the players read it. As well as all the coaches and himself too. They might get an epiphany or something.

Cyber
Great word is penance. I had to look it up and I'll use it from now on.

CyberCosmix:

Agree with you on all fronts. Maybe my rankings are just because of recent rancid Elliot on my pallette, as I always have hated Heinsohn's rants about Celtics never causing a foul. Same with Elliot now. I mean, I have TIVO and rewind many replays just to see why KB, Pau, Drew lose a ball. It is almost always because of a hack on their ARMS not their ball hand. So, when Elliot and Heinsohn start railing about some Celtic foul call and never about a Lakers blatantly missed call that would be in favor of a Laker, they lose credibility. Mike Rice of Portland is also a terrible homer.

What up, Everyone- Well, can't say I can really add anything new to what ails us. Glad we're going hard tonight, see how they respond.

A couple of things: While I agree at times, as fans of opposing teams, we can really have a hard time dealing with the homers. And While, Sean Elliott can be a homer by some, let the record show that I think he was a bad man on the court, much respect. And his Kidney Disease that almost took his life, I'm glad he's alive for everyone to rip on!! The fans of Spurs obviously love his analysis.

I live in Canada, and the NBA Package sucks, so, don't think I'm satisfied, I won't even get to watch Blake tonight, either, it sucks.

@Art
"Phil should just print out the blog posts and make all the players read it. As well as all the coaches and himself too. They might get an epiphany or something."

Better yet, they should separate the posts based on player, and have each player read aloud his jabs during a practice session!

Oh man, what I would give to be a fly on the wall in the locker room if this actually went down!!! Can you just imagine each player's face as he gets called out numerous times by multiple adoring(and pissed off) fans.

Now that would make the NBA really FAAAAAN-TASTIC!!!!

Art: Yeah, I agree with you on the trolls, for the most part they on the level. I think there is a line between those that are Laker fan's that down on the team and those that consistently bash on either a single player or maintain a constant negative attitude. I don't mind singling those guys out, but overall those that are mad at how the team is playing, mad at the coach, mad at the player - a lot of these guys have been watching for years and have their own interesting angles and takes on things.

If Phil prints out the blog and hands it to the players to read, I think they'd be surprised at how much passion Laker fans have. Maybe they would refocus themselves. It could only help things, that's for sure!

I thought the funniest comment was the guy that says playing for Phil is like playing for a mummy ROFL...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

@justa
Thanks for your response- how do I get over to this "renegade chat" after the next loss?

@Lrob
congrats on the Friedman award! Much deserved.

"CyberCosmix:

Agree with you on all fronts. Maybe my rankings are just because of recent rancid Elliot on my pallette, as I always have hated Heinsohn's rants about Celtics never causing a foul. Same with Elliot now. I mean, I have TIVO and rewind many replays just to see why KB, Pau, Drew lose a ball. It is almost always because of a hack on their ARMS not their ball hand. So, when Elliot and Heinsohn start railing about some Celtic foul call and never about a Lakers blatantly missed call that would be in favor of a Laker, they lose credibility. Mike Rice of Portland is also a terrible homer.

Posted by: NuggetsCountry | December 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM "

Stu and Joel do that, too. I don't think you'll find many commentators that truly want it called the same for both sides. Everyone wants their team to have the benefit of the doubt.

Hill: Can I try one of your rings?

Kobe: NO!

I just don't know?

Matt Harpring is actually a decent, unbiased to a point, commentator, very sharp and he's very collected for someone who's still green.

Whatup, LakerNation.

I know the Lakers have received their wake up call. There is no way they are taking these losses in stride. Champions respond to adversity and show resiliency when it's needed most. Here come the World Champion Los Angeles Lakers. Watch out!

Hey guys just a heads up. A post is being edited right now so that should be up fairly shortly

REPOST:

A good news is Bynum is starting to catch up. Once he becomes the starter and Gasol playing at PF, and Odom coming out of the bench gelling with the Killer B's, the Lakers will be just fine.

"Before success comes in any man's life he is sure to meet with much temporary defeat and, perhaps, some failures. When defeat overtakes a man, the easiest and most logical thing to do is to quit. That is exactly what the majority of men do."
-Napoleon Hill-


Kobe: "Fisher is the basketball equivalent of Barack Obama."
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Is that supposed to be a compliment or an insult to Fisher?

The Lakers always play bad this time of year..Im not worried...yet

Sean Elliott- Terrible and biased. You do not disrespect a fellow basketball player by using his wife's last name on a regular basis. I'd like to see him try to interview Lamar.


He was crying flagrant foul when Artest took Parker down hard. Even after the replay showed that Artest got a piece of the ball in the process, he never corrected himself. It's called a hard foul Sean, that's all. Homerism, an ugly disease, please check yourselves.

LRob, I agree with your sentiments on panicking over this. Here are my random thoughts. Scroll as you please.

I thought the Starters as a unit, blew last night. The last part of the first half, and start of the 3rd quarter they were terrible. Things got ugly in the 4th, but the 3rd was when they really lost it. As a whole, the team looks like they lost some confidence. They just have play through that till they can get some of their mojo back.

Kobe's shooting, and TOs were def brutal last night, and he was dribbling too much, but I wouldn't put the whole thing on him. Drew's 5 missed FTs in a row didn't help, though overall I thought he played well. I saw them double Duncan last night when Drew was guarding him on the block. This led to a Spurs 3. I always think the Lakers double the post too much. At his age, I think you make Duncan show he can score off of Drew down low, before you double him.

This Funk is a team thing and they'll have to get out of it as a team.

A Clash situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyUsJWO-7jM

Tonight would be a good night for Andrew to get his first start of the year. Shake things up a bit.

Kobe has become too enamored with the pinch post. Teams know just where to find him. And they are doubling and tripling him hard when he recieves the ball. He's playing too much like a small forward IMO. He and Lamar need to switch places in the triangle. Kobe bringing the ball into the frontcourt and Lamar setting up in the post more often. Lamar is a capable scorer and fine passer and would benefit being closer to the cup. Kobe doesn't have to be in the post EVERY possession.

Oh...and just so you know...I love Kobe Bryant as a basketball player. I can acknowledge that he has faults but I still revel in the brilliance of his game. It'll take more than a few bad games to change that.

For those that appreciate Kobe's game, no explanation is necessary.

For those who don't like Kobe, no explanation is possible.

JOMO
Just One Man's Opinion

Hugo Boss: lol, penance was the only word I could think of having read through so many posts breaking down whats wrong with the team. I sometimes scroll through some posts, I must say it is impressive how much blog writers really know the team. I've read a lot of other teams blogs over the years, I'm always amazed by how much more the hoop-IQ is from Laker fans compared to all other teams.

From now on I will make an attempt to read everyone's posts, don't always do that but will make sure to from here on out.

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NuggetsCountry: I don't think I've seen Mike Rice call a game yet, maybe for a couple minutes at a time, gotta keep it in mind though, lol. I could imagine that most small-towns with NBA teams (Sacto, San Antonio, Portland, Memphis, etc...) would have 'homer' announcers, but that really isn't the case. I caught NBA TV on Monday showing the Raptors at Grizzlies, with the Grizzly home announcers - they were pretty fair and unbiased. Made for good listening.

Heinsohn though is a gem, a real beaut. I wonder if he realizes that most people are laughing at him rather than with him... lol

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Bay to LA: I'd say that Joel is pretty much a homer, but Stu is fair, no? Stu in my mind is one of the best analysts around, networks and everything. He really could be a coach. I terribly miss Chick, but having Stu makes Joel less annoying (OK, being harsh, I like him most of the time).

I'd love to see Bill McDonald be Laker TV announcer, but Joel isn't going anywhere and I can't see the team making that switch...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

@no mo - I was responding to a post about asking about Shannon at MSU that is the only reason I gave information about his performance at MSU.


Again your original post inferred that I said Shannon was an incredible player. I never said that. Feel free to provide proof if you disagree.
I gave you a general summary of what I've said in the last 5 months. You really have to read the topics and surrounding comments to get a more complete understanding of those comments.


Now if you want to carry on a reasonable dialogue I'm good with that. If you choose not to I'm cool with that. I don't consider your lastest post reasonable dialogue.

@LROB... On another note, what are you hearing about Jim Harbaugh. Word out of San Francisco is that the Niners are going to promote Trent Baalke to general manager and that he might be a package deal with Harbaugh to take over as head coach for the Niners. Worked out pretty good for the Niners last time they signed a rookie head coach from Stanford.
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TOM

For those that appreciate Kobe's game, no explanation is necessary.

For those who don't like Kobe, no explanation is possible.

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | December 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Hear hear.

I appreciate.

The most logical thing to do than, is give the keys to Spero, who also does a great job on the NFL network and let Joel have the radio gig.

@Cyber – Thanks for providing a nice summary. As far as CWebb goes I don’t consider him anti-Lakers.

@Art – I agree everyone should post their opinion. I appreciate the variety.

@Mamba/Justa/mclyne – Last time I checked the juke box was working!


Okay so the Lakers are going through a rough patch. So they question for them and us fans is “Can We Stand the Rain”

Lyrics…
On a perfect day I know that I can count on you.
When that’s not possible, tell me can you weather the storm?

New Edition….Can You Stand the Rain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7flrKMGfwjw

(The newpaper article in the video is classic....New Edition….Have they lost it?) Same question is being asked of the Lakers

Depends on if he's going to his left

Who the f*** is George Hill and more importantly why is he putting his finger in Kobe's face? Sit down bench warmer!

Edwin:

Thanks for your prompt reply. You are always one of my favorite bloggers here. I appreciate that you did try to clarify your positions or comments reference to Laker Tom which shows that you are, as always, a responsible and caring about the team. Let's move on! We have a game to focus this evening!!

bronxlakerfan: How about Phil runs a play for Kobe? A pick, a screen and roll, have him come off a backpick, have him curl around - something?

At some point PJ has got to recognize what is happening - the team is running no semblance of an offense. There is no cohesion on the floor. No unity.

I trust in PJ, he gives teams a lot of rope - this team has gone to three-straight Finals so they have a ton of leeway to work things out. But how tolerant could he be when these struggles continue on and on.

We have to keep in mind that it is the holidays, a time when the Lakers traditionally have taken off (well, they show up to games, playing well is another matter...). This is a team that has worked it out in the past. There is a precedence of them pulling themselves out of their tailspins, no matter that us Laker fans see three-game losing streaks as the end of the world.

Well said on Kobe though, I know I can definitely take a few 'off' games to his usual brilliance he plays with on most nights...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!

*________________________________________________________________________*
I’M ON BOARD UNTIL THE TRAIN COMES OFF THE TRACKS…AND THE ONLY TRACKS THAT COUNT ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS – BANDWAGON
*________________________________________________________________________*
(01) CORNER-J – OWNER - So here's the deal. We true Laker fans are sticking by this team and this coach...no matter what. Maybe their time is indeed over...but maybe it isn't. And you better pray that you're right. Because if our STILL WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS do get it together, there is going to be some serious payback happening...both in the playoffs, and on this blog. . I'm on board until the train comes off the tracks...and the only tracks that count are in the playoffs. Carry on, my friend.

(28) ZEN(THE ORIGINAL) - The Lakers always play bad this time of year..Im not worried...yet
(29) LAKERJ - I know the Lakers have received their wake up call. There is no way they are taking these losses in stride. Champions respond to adversity and show resiliency when it's needed most. Here come the World Champion Los Angeles Lakers. Watch out!
(30) BRONXLAKERFAN - I've heard some great rebuttal from Justa, Corner J and others. Many thanx to Mamba24 and others, who, while expressing their displeasure about the team's recent play, never lose sight of the big picture. I side with those folks. I'm a diehard Laker fan and I will be for the duration.
(31)

OK LRob , this is to the Lakers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz7FUsyrCkM _ Win or Lose _ Earth Wind & Fire

CyberCosmiX....

You're right about PJ trying something new. The Lakers have got to be the most scrutinized, analyzed and dissected NBA team of all time. Coaches, assistants and opposing players have watched the Lakers prominence for the last decade,dreaming of ways to knock them off their horse. At present, the Lakers are no mystery. A few new wrinkles in their gameplan wouldn't hurt.

Hey,
first of all, GO LAKERS...
..but really is this not just a dramatic twist to spice up the season for Phil Jackson's last year. It would be boring if we won 65 games and cruised to another title, am I right or am I right? Or am i wrong?
Hell this season started like a gem and progressively has made me lose more and more hair the past month. This isn't the end of the world no, but there are a lot of issues to be addressed.
Kobe's taking too many shots yes, but someone SOMEONE needs to step up and demand the ball from him. You can't pussyfoot around Kobe. His teammates need to step up and be men and Kobe needs to instill more confidence in them whether they're playing like garbage or not.
-Shannon should never have the ball in his hands unless he's taking a shot or going up for a dunk. His awareness and passing skills are terrible.
-Get Bynum in the starting line-up I mean why not a change??
-Ron.....I don't know what's up with Ron, but who does? He's being a space cadet this year. I don't see the desire he had last year.
-Bench just needs to PASS the ball period and play D

I don't know I just can't wait to after the All Star break. Something tells me things will FINALLY start to "matter" to this team come February-March.
It's sad to say, but it's hard to be mentally prepared and in-gear for these games. Title defense motivation comes during the playoffs. The other contenders are showing us they are ready to take our crown. Bottom line it all comes down to April/May/June baby.

GO LAKERS!!! HATERS ARE GONNA HATE

George Hill will be the Kobe's next recruit target. Just ask Artest and Barnes......

Kobe, my Grandmother says "hi", she went to school with you!

BOY IT HAS BEEN NASTY THE LAST THREE GAMES. KOBE SAY'S HIS TEAMMATES AND THEY SAY TO MUCH KOBE. WHERE WILL THE BALANCE BE IN THE MIDDLE I HOPE. IT'S TIME TO WORK THE BIG MEN INTO THE LEADING ROLE FOR THIS TEAM, MOST DEFENSES ARE FOUCUS ON THE GUARDS WITH DOUBLE TEAMS AND FORCING THE BALL TO THE CORNERS. SO OUR ATTACK SHOULD BE INSIDE AND INSIDE. SO MORE WITH THREE BIGS SHOULD BE WEARING THE OTHER TEAM DOWN. TO MUCH DRIBBLING ON OUTSIDE AND TOO MANY BAD PASSES. WE NEEDED A BETTER POINT GUARD THREE YEARS AGO BUT WE INSIST ON DFISHER, WHO MAYBE A SECOND HAND ROLE PLAYER. NOW IS THE TIME TO WORK THE BIGS AND SEE WHO WE ARE GOING TO TRADE IN A MONTH. HOPEFULLY GASOFT WILL BE THAT MAN. HE IS REALLY WEAK ALL HE DOES IS SCREAM AND SAY AND ONE, GASOFT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORCEFULL. HE PLAY'S AGAINST MOSTLY BIG SLOW GUYS OR SMALL INFERIOR PLAYERS AND LATELY HAS NO SUCESS AGAINST EITHER.

"Bay to LA: I'd say that Joel is pretty much a homer, but Stu is fair, no? Stu in my mind is one of the best analysts around, networks and everything. He really could be a coach. I terribly miss Chick, but having Stu makes Joel less annoying (OK, being harsh, I like him most of the time).

I'd love to see Bill McDonald be Laker TV announcer, but Joel isn't going anywhere and I can't see the team making that switch...


AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | December 29, 2010 at 12:34 PM "

Stu isn't as bad as Joel, but they're both homers. I'm sure it's partly by design but they'll bring up tick tack fouls that they want the Lakers to be getting and don't do that for the other team. On an obvious missed call for the other team, they do chuckle and say "they're letting them play" or something of that nature but if you listened to them without watching, you'd get the impression that 90% of the no-calls were benefitting the opposition. Again, that's probably by design but I don't think any opposing fanbases would respect them.

Someone like Spero is in a completely different league when it comes to unbiased commentating. I think a Celtics fan could listen in to a Lakers broadcast and never once be bothered by him.

Laker Peace...

Kobe could do a lot worse than recruiting Geo. Hill. That kid can ball.

*________________________________________________________________________*
I’M ON BOARD UNTIL THE TRAIN COMES OFF THE TRACKS…AND THE ONLY TRACKS THAT COUNT
ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNER-J – OWNER - So here's the deal. We true Laker fans are sticking by this team and this coach...no matter what. Maybe their time is indeed over...but maybe it isn't. And you better pray that you're right. Because if our STILL WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS do get it together, there is going to be some serious payback happening...both in the playoffs, and on this blog. . I'm on board until the train comes off the tracks...and the only tracks that count are in the playoffs. Carry on, my friend.

(31) CYBERCOSMIX - We have to keep in mind that it is the holidays, a time when the Lakers traditionally have taken off (well, they show up to games, playing well is another matter...). This is a team that has worked it out in the past. There is a precedence of them pulling themselves out of their tailspins, no matter that us Laker fans see three-game losing streaks as the end of the world. Well said on Kobe though, I know I can definitely take a few 'off' games to his usual brilliance he plays with on most nights...AS ALWAYS - AND FOREVER - GO LAKERS!!!!!
(32) ZACH FROM SAN DIEGO - first of all, GO LAKERS... ..but really is this not just a dramatic twist to spice up the season for Phil Jackson's last year. It would be boring if we won 65 games and cruised to another title, am I right or am I right? Or am i wrong? Hell this season started like a gem and progressively has made me lose more and more hair the past month. This isn't the end of the world no, but there are a lot of issues to be addressed. I don't know I just can't wait to after the All Star break. Something tells me things will FINALLY start to "matter" to this team come February-March. It's sad to say, but it's hard to be mentally prepared and in-gear for these games. Title defense motivation comes during the playoffs. The other contenders are showing us they are ready to take our crown. Bottom line it all comes down to April/May/June baby. GO LAKERS!!! HATERS ARE GONNA HATE

Bronxlakerfan- What up, yea, George Hill can ball, he's not AI, don't get in a legends face unless you're ready to pay the price.

Homie don't play that! Kobe don't play that!!

Watch it, George Hill you just made the list.

Now that would make the NBA really FAAAAAN-TASTIC!!!!
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mclyne,

Good idea you had, would be a fun time for all I'm sure!

Spero would be a great addition to the broadcast team. I don't think it will happen in the future. A guy, as smart as he is, must be weighing his options. He could easily enhance Fox's pregame/postgame programming, Curt really has a bad dynamic for the audience he's trying to keep. CBS could also use Spero, as a broadcaster, Jim Nantz, is horribly redundant, and makes Phil Simms commentary more, shall we say, garden-variety. It's boring. Again, Spero could be our new announcer, I think he weighs his options. The guy is going places, no question about that.

If the Lakers consider upgrading the roster before trade dealdine (or even aftrer the season), it would be the PG position as it stands now just because of Fisher's age (36) adn its depth. And I heard Ricky Rubio would come to the NBA (i.e. playing for the Timberwolves) next season. The Timberwolves might start to think unloading their surplus of PGs, such as Jonny Flynn (21), Telfair (25), and Lidnoir (29), and they all know triangle as well. Mitch can convince Rambis that Walton is healthy now and is perfect fit for their triangle to teach it to their young players.

"Mitch can convince Rambis that Walton is healthy now and is perfect fit for their triangle to teach it to their young players.

Posted by: LakerPeace | December 29, 2010 at 01:39 PM "

LOL they could hire Tex Winter himself for less money than Luke is making.

@Sean "don't get in a legends face unless you're ready to pay the price.

Homie don't play that! Kobe don't play that!!

Watch it, George Hill you just made the list."
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LoL! My thoughts exactly!

I'm asking Khloe to pour a beer on Sean Elliot's head when the Spurs come to Staples...then bitch slap him!
That would be well deserved!
I had a feeling we would get stomped on last night...not really surpirsed as our team is just discombuberated right now. Lets see how things work out with AB & Pau in the starting lineup together & LO off the bench...we haven't seen that yet this year so I'm not panicing.........yet.

MM

What is your defense of Pau's poor performance after his minutes have gone down? What is your excuse for AB playing well even though he is not 100% healthy yet?

Enigma - I'm not defending Gasol at all. I've criticized him and says his current poor play is inexcusable

I've heard a few commentators refer to Tony Parker as Mr. Longoria, and I never heard anyone comment on how that was unprofessional. I think it's mostly done in fun, and I thought it was funny. Last night, same thing, when Elliott referred to Odom as Mr. Kardashian. Odom, on the other hand, is a "personality", and married to a Kardashian, who court the publicity. No big deal, not meant to be mean-just how it is.

By the way, Sean makes no protestations to being anything than a Spurs fan, who happens to be hired to be a color commentator for the Spurs games.

now George Hill thinks he is a bada**? pleaseeeeeeee!

Stop hating on Kobe he is the man an if i eva get the chance to meet him i will tell him are he can call me 504 253-1821 thats how real i am make my new year give me a call Kobe love TYLANNA


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