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Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest, Derek Fisher and Matt Barnes discuss 96-80 loss to Miami Heat

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson on 96-80 loss to Miami Heat


Lakers guard Kobe Bryant

Lakers forward Pau Gasol

Lakers forward Lamar Odom

Lakers forward Ron Artest

Lakers guard Derek Fisher

Lakers forward Matt Barnes

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1. Paid off family to go and see the Lakers play the Heat $1000.00 "check"
2. Paid $1500.00 for two tickets with a face value of $300.00 "check"
3. Paid $500.00 for Valet service from downtown hotel because you do not want to drive "check"
4. Paid $500.00 for the first edition Lime Green Kobe Christmas Nike Shoes "check"
5 Paid $200.00 for late lunch of pulled pork sandwiches and beer for 6 friends "check"
Watching your Laker team get spanked in their own crib....PRICELESS

Posted by: Dave | December 25, 2010 at 08:47 PM

This is PRICELESS

Listening to Ron Ron interview, get this man his medication quick. I know he regets auctioning off his ring, hope he buy another one. Because the odds of him winning another is not looking to good. ( my mine is like a fish, what)

I predicted this loss right after Phil Jackson made those silly comments about Miami earlier in the year. Hey Phil, If the Lakers continue this slide maybe Jerry Buss should bring in Jerry West to coach THIS team............how 'bout that?

At what point will the bloggers, media and fans begin to scrutinize Phil Jackson? Phil's energy is terrible as he has no life or excitement about the game...............this team reflects the laid back tone that Phil sets...........and unfortunately I think Kobe had bought into it..................BUT NOT ANYMORE!!

Look for Kobe to be much more assertive earlier and for his shot total to go back up to the 22-26 shots a game.

Phil Jackson's inability to adjust was also on display today as he finally came out of that triangle offense and began running the 2-man game with Gasol allowing Kobe to make the decisions as Miami doubled him and scrambled to get back to their man. This resulted in three straight buckets in the 3rd quarter before Miami called timeout. What does Phil do after the timeout?

He takes Kobe out...............WTF? Then when kobe returns at the beginning of the fourth..........he takes Gasol out..............WTF?

When Gasol returns................Phil goes right back to running the triangle.

Phil's lacks the ability to think and react effectively during the course of a game and it was on full display today as he simply destroyed any rhythm or momentum the Lakers had at the time to get back in the game with his terrible substitutions and rotations.


This Laker team looked ill-prepared and uncoached. I listened to that interview Phil had at the beginning of the fourth quarter...................can you say Alzheimer's?

Looks like Lebron is still the best player in the league.
I guess we should now discuss if Wade > Kobe.

now lakers miss sasha his hustle,intesity to guard opposing star player(not like fisher cant guard anymore) and sasha 3points shot..againast bucks lakers 79points,against miami 80 maybe against san antonio 81pts score by lakwers..waaaaaaaah

For those of you who don't speak Hispanish, Pau said:

I play with a bunch of ganstas who don't give me the ball. They should listen to less Ludacris and more Julio Iglesias. Where's the love?

You have to give Kudos and a "shout out" to the Florida teams that had a chance to beat the two teams that will meet in the Finals next year! Enjoy your respective victories as well as your early vacations next year.

Listen, this isn't over until they either do not make it into the playoffs or if they lose a series once they're in. Did they play bad? Absolutely they did and Boston did much better in their game today than the Lakers.

That being said, our team is still not at full strength and once the trade deadline has passed and we officially begin the start of the 2nd half of the season, then we'll have a better opportunity to assess our chances. For now, we can all agree that they simply stunk it up so far and we may not fare any better in San Antonio and New Orleans.

Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Lamar, et al had better get it through their heads that they are not the "cat's meow." They are part of a championship team because of Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson. So I say to them: quit your off-court antics, get your butts into the gym and begin working on your games or else it's gonna be a nasty time in the locker room and a very short season.

Looking forward to the 2nd half of the season and for the team to become fully healthy, focused and deadly. We're still in it to win it all so go ahead, get down on the team, point out all of their flaws and vent to your heart’s content. Just remember: it ain't over until it's over and we're nowhere near that terminal point yet!

GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST! Mitch - OUR EOY

what I took away from the interviews:

"when it's time to do it we will do it". - Lamar Odom

"you have to show up and get to work" - Kobe Bryant

"we need to get our butts in gear" - Kobe Bryant


Lamar my man yhou need a reality check..

Kobe you need to knock some sense into your team..

Lakers just seem plain uninterested in basketball at the moment. I watch every Lakers game even though my frequent refrain is that the regular season is pre-season training and nothing more. I have no doubt that the quality of our ball will greatly improve sometime between now and March/April. We will make a run, and even now I think we will be Champions.

On the other hand, I feel frustration that the Lakers don't appear to take any joy in the game right now. Almost any team in the league could beat the Lakers in our current malaise.

I watched the Clips play Orlando last week, and I'll be damned if I didn't have more fun watching Blake Griffin, DJ, Bledson, Gordon play than I do watching Gasol flip balls carelessly and missed rotation after missed rotation.

Speaking of the Clips, you know who else plays with a Laker mentality at the moment? Baron Davis. Skilled, but something ain't right.

Heading for at least a 3 game losing streak, possibly 4 or 5. They don't have a team identity yet. Gasol has reverted back to 2008. The flop he attempted when he pseudo-double-teamed Princess Jimmy said it all.

It's not a big deal to lose on Xmas-Day. Lakers' D was like Xmas pudding and their offense was as if they ate too much fruit cake for breakfast.

Princess Jimmy can have the Xmas Trophy. Let them eat fruit cake!

Championships are won in June...

Miami played with passion, intelligence, hustle, and great ball and team movement. We didn't. So Miami deserves credit for their win and their fans deserve their moment in the sun to celebrate...for now.

Are we as bad as we looked? No we're not. We definitely played bad, but this is still an immensely talented group of players. You'll note I didn't say immensely talented "team." And when an immensely talented group of players doesn't play well as a team for an extended period of time, there's one person who is usually the major reason for that problem...the coach.

Phil looks disinterested and distracted, like he's marking off the days on his Montana Big Rocking Chair in the Sky calendar. And the players reflect his disinterest and distraction. No practices after some pretty bad losses. No time outs to invoke a new strategy. No shakeup of the lineup. This is a team in serious need of seeing the business end of a cracking whip and perhaps even a lineup shakeup to let certain people know that you either produce or someone else who can produce will take your place.

One more thing. Kobe does indeed look like his skills have seriously eroded. He has no lift, and he can't seem to get separation from even journeyman guards much less from the elite guards. But the suddenness with which this has happened actually leads me to believe that it's more likely due to his knee surgery than to aging. If you think of how bad Ginobli, Duncan, and Garnet looked last year with nagging injuries, and how people were saying they were too old and washed up, and not look at how great they are playing this year, totally rejuvenated, it certainly gives you hope. Kobe never admits how badly he is injured, so this is a real possibility. Nevertheless, Kobe's inability to turn it on is definitely a big factor in the team's fourth quarter fades. Without Kobe's heroics, we have no mojo whatsoever. Kobe, come back!

I thought we got Ron-Ron to shut down guys like Lebron- instead he torched us for a triple double.

Ron missed two layups that in no way a professional athelete should have missed. I still like Ron, but his offensive game right now is PAINFUL to watch.

I'm soooo glad we have Bynum back to shore up our D and outrebound our opponents.
What? He was invisible out there? Lost his balance against a spin move by Bosh?
He may have better post moves(when he's not injured) than D Howard, but I'de much rather have Howard's excellent defensive presence down low- this guy flies in from nowhere to block shots.

Pau, once again, underachieved when we needed him most. Does he need to sit for a few games? He looks like a shell of his former self, and not just tonight- for the entire season.

You better be pissed, Kobe, if your team keeps this up, you will be clawing your way back to the Finals from the seventh or eight spot.

As for the Heat, they diced our defense with a steady diet of pick and roll. I do give them credit for showing up on a nationally televised match. Bosh didn't look soft at all to me.

Congratulations to Heat and Magic team. They won convincingly on Christmas day. I wish I can say Lakers are ready for three-peat at this time. It appears that they are not interested of the title, there is no urgency in December, no passion, no team play and just going through the process. If they don't wake up and do some serious, they could be in trouble against Spurs and NO. As a Laker fan, we should look at the past W's and Championships as a motivation for them to start winning again but as a realist, we're wondering what's going on with our team lately?. Are they still capable of playing good basketball against quality teams? Are they not embarrassed to Jerry Buss who opened his pocket & paying them the highest salaries in NBA? Where is the Laker pride and joy of sticking w/ the standard of excellence of the purple and gold tradition. There is no justifications and excuses for what is happening in a month now. It could be a sign of decadence of an arrogant Champ that lost the skills along the way because it petty cockiness led to a prolonged hangover. I pity the fans who still believe on the players who have no hearts to compete.

i wanna see a shake up of the rotation. Maybe add a player before the deadline. Honestly i feel like That is really what this team needs right now. I mean honestly Drew coming back into the starting line up will help a lot. You can see in the interviews why Odom is our sixth man. He needs a reason to get motivated to play. "we'll do it when its time?" That sounds like a bench player to me. Another thing is we need an offensive threat at the point, that can play moderate D. In the off season i wanted to see Shannon step into the role of starting point, but it seems as if he has found his place. Call me crazy but i think if we made a trade for someone like T-mac or Shaun livingston it would make a world of difference. There two taller Bigger guys that could be potential matchup nightmares for most any team's PG at both ends of the floor. They offer more offensive options than our current PGs and wouldn't have to play more than 17 to 19 mins a game. We should keep Fisher on to play the first 4mins and last 4 mins of ever half because those are the only times he is efficient anyway. I feel that by capping mins for our players in this fashion will give them the motivation to play harder knowing that they only have to play in 8 min spurts and thus don't need to save energy. This has been affective for Barnes and Ron Ron in the beginning of the season. Knowing that he is gonna get 18 to 20 mins a night has boosted Shannon's productivity as well. I feel that when bynum gets better and Gasol can be assured that he won't have to play so many mins at the 5 that his productivity will increase as well. With the financial situation we are in now making a trade for T-mac is probably the most logical move, and it gives us another veteran that can score in limited mins. I know everyone worries bout his injuries but its a risk that we can def. take cuz if he goes down we won't lose anything that we have right now.

For those whose memories reach back to last year's regular season, you may recall that last year's malaise had to do with a sense by most members of the team that KB was playing selfishly. You may remember their renewed sense of urgency and joy in playing during the games he missed due to injury.

The point of this is to suggest that the problem may not be getting everyone to "play hard.".

Rather, it may be getting everyone, including KB, to play unselfishly.

You might have thought that after 7-25 in Game 7 last spring, he might have learned his lesson. But clearly not. When he shoots 30 times a game, the Lakers lose.

The thrust of PJ's comments after the Milwaukee game was that the team was playing selfishly, players doing their own thing, rather than playing within the offense.

Sound familiar?

In response to the first guy to say t-Mac plays SF....i know this. I'm suggesting a change of position. He's a much better ball handler and passer than Fish. Trust me he can't be any slower or less adequate on defense than Fish, and his height/length (6'9) helps prevent drives and to clog up passing lanes. He can still create his own shot and if and when he shoots he'll be pulling up over guys that are what? 6'1 to 6'5 max....His percentages should definitely improve. btw he is already shooting near the same percentage as Fish on less mins with less open looks.

Adubb,

I wish I can say something good about TMac and Shaun L. They are also washed up after those severe injuries or else we heard them lifted the team where they belonged today. On the Lakers, I think there should be an organizational meeting with JB or even with the younger Buss'es to assess if there is any problem going on. Sometimes, when an organization hit some low points, there are meetings held to define the objectives and whether everyone are in the same page, it is called mid-year review. The owners don't need to interfere, they just have to listen and sometimes listening create wonders. How about the players who are not playing like Walton, Ebanks, Caracter, Smith and Ratliff? What can they do? Are they still part of the team?

Here's what's on going on with the Lakers as a team - their thoughts with cockiness like Tiger Woods. "C'mon now you think we're really in a slump, we made the finals 3 years in a row and won 2 titles. Wow, I can't believe you just said. Just because we didn't win this year it would really hurt our legacy?" I don't think Tiger was ever the same after that. And I think the Lakers are at that stage.

Matt Barnes said, "We're not playing basketball right now."


I would concur. New day on Tuesday vs. SA and time to start a winning streak.

edwin,

I hear what you are saying but you are missing my point. right now they are both on teams that don't have any real talent and they are, like you say, coming back from injuries. Thats the thing they have a desire to prove that they still have wat it takes but are on teams where the outcome doesn't really matter and they have to work hard to show signs of life, becuz they have no support and aren't expected to do anything. What they need is other better people around them to lift them and provide them with expectations on which to focus their drive. What the Lakers need is a new face with passion and fire in their eyes to renew their spirit. I feel like the Lakers have become too accustomed to Kobe's drive and passion and are no longer motivated by it. However, a new face to out work them and push them may bring new life. trust me i myself have had to fight back from severe injuries and it takes a tough die hard mentality to fight back after serious injury (takes real focus and dedication, especially after years of working to get back). This can be seen in Bynum's development as well. His injuries and the work it takes to come back have made him tougher, more serious. Even in tonight's game he seemed to be the only guy other than kobe going right at the opposition. he just hasn't gotten back to the point where he can be effective yet.

Ther starting line-up needs to change. The haven't looked good all seasons. The bench bailed out the team many times. The starters looked tired and slow. This includes Kobe. Time after time, Kobe's man gets away from him for wide open 3s.

Pau is playing with no efforts on the defensive end. Artist is dead in the water. I don't see him playing any better anymore. He's done on the offensive end. No one respects his offends. Lebron left him all day today to help on defends.

Kobe's finger is not fine. His shooting is way off this year.

They can say all they want, this team will not make it out of the west this year unless Kobe starts to snap and Phil starts to coach. He needs to earn his money right now and not just seating there looking cool like before.

the Lakers don't just need to pick up the their play.....they need a trade to ad that player who is starving for a ring.......Right now Andrew is the guy who is movable because of his age, potential, and short time left on his contract......This team needs a change! Its not just complacency, lack of focus, etc. ...Kobe realizes by his own account that he is aging, Pau is simply overworked the last 4 seasons (3 regular seasons, playoffs till June, Olympic play) have taken a toll on him.....both these guys poured out their heart to win back to back . Though LO is playing well, he not a guy that will carry a ball club for a large part of the season (the past has proven he just can't be counted on to do that)......Mitch has proven to be a guy who is very sober minded and very shrewd in deal making; his two trade pieces are Andrew/LO....if there is any way he can swing a deal for Melo ....he should do it ASAP. He is a master mind at 3-4 team deals ....Andrew would be a great center piece of a multi team deal. The Lakers really need another big gun ...right now Andrew is not it, LO is not it, and Artest has been distracted by the attention .....In the past patience proved to be the right thing to hang their hats on (not trading kobe and not trading Drew/LO for Jermain Oneal) now a trade will help this already aging team....
The Lakers have talent no doubt but not the deep talent w/ playoff experience like Boston...... 3-4 legit ALL STARS is now the recipe in the league the Lakers have two and in the past LO/Drew have combined to make a third......With Kobe aging and Pau running on fumes, the big two need a third guy to carry the load for long stretches if called upon.....SA (Manu, Duncan, Parker) Boston (Pierce, Rondo, Ray-Ray, KG), Miami (Wade, Bosh, LBJ)...... the stakes have risen and Mitch/Buss have to go all in for now and the near future. IMO Melo would give the Lakers a third legit ALL STAR who could not only lead to at least two more rings but also soften the blow the franchise is certain to take as Kobe inevitably declines (with the leagues biggest contract). Perhaps they can packaged a multi team deal which includes Andrew, Shannon, (5.4mill) trade exception and picks for Melo (young core of players, cap flexibility, and picks) A new Laker core of (Kobe, Melo, Pau) would no doubt lead to more rings in LA

3 Team Deal - Lakers, Denver, Philly

Lakers gets - Melo and Spencer Hawes
Denver gets- Andre Iguodala, Maurice Speights, picks
Philly gets- Andrew, Shannon, Luke, Trade exception


Lakers new lineup

Fisher/ Blake
Kobe/Barnes
Melo/Artest
Pau/LO/ Joe Smith
Hawes/ Ratliff

blabhlbahlbhlblhab.

the end of the world is near!
shut up to all miami fans.....i am sick of hearing about a team that has won nothing yet.

ZERO zilch nada ...0.

I agree with kobe, complacency is our BIGGEST worry right now, i hate my lakers right now..i really do.

when they lose like this..i make sure i dont watch the game again, dont turn espn, and dont listen to what others say..because if i did i would want to burn down the television probably...everyone writing us off.
everyone this and that....

SAME EXACT THING happened last year around this SAME Time.....lakers blown out uninspired play against the cavs....then what happened?

yah we won the title.


lets worry if they play like this come april..until then i am not buying all this crap about us being DONE.

Real fans support their teams through thick-and-thin,
which is not to say that unrealistic hopes and expectations,
and/or constructive criticism isn’t part of the bargain.
Of course it is!

It’s just that when pompous arrogance and cockiness
so pervades the majority of a fan base
(even in the light of strong evidence
which clearly show one’s team is no longer the top dog),
that they are unable to make honest acknowledgements about it,
or recognize the superiority of other teams,
then ‘Something’s Got to Give’ (Great movie, Jack!).

Mr. Medina,
prepare to mediate!
(And, on occasion, even go to war yourself).
It’s gonna get cannibalistic ugly around here.
The Hollywood Troupe’s getting down to seeds and stems again.

(By the way, did anyone ever tell you that you sound
a lot like another great former Los Angeles broadcaster?)

Poor ol' NoCal boy Matt's gotta be wondering if moving down into that sewer was such a good idea...and you know that Testes is lamenting his ring.

Be kind to each other my children.
It's cold and raining on you as I type.

Go Kings!
Go Ducks!
Go Manny, go!

im glad sasha was traded to nets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo161w6nUUk

As difficult as it must have been, kudos to Laker fans for not making complete fools of themselves again...

Sonnybelfast

Hahaha...Told you guys soon as we got Lebron and Bosh you guys had ZERO chance to win ever again. I was right. You guys just lost at home to a Heat team with no chemistry yet, without its 4th and 5th best players. And you lost by 16, wasn't even competitive. As the season breaks down, your best players will get worse because they're old, slow, and have no urgency. Our best players will get better because they're younger, stronger, faster, play better defense, have more urgency. Urgency for better superstars to win FIRST title > urgency for worse older superstars to win 6th title. You should have known when Wade, Lebron, and Bosh almost swept Kobe by themselves last year on horrible teams. Should have known when they made Kobe look like a high-schooler in the Olympics. Should have known right when you lost to Barcelona how much of a joke last year's title was, zero competition, and that your chances of winning one this year were slim to none. I told you they'd be lucky to even get there, with the emergence of better hungrier teams in the West, cross slim off, it's just none. Sup Medina!

This year seems different, we really look slower and the offense looks dreadful not to mention the defense.

The Lakers look only marginally better with Blake and Barnes.

This isn't last year. Boston, Orlando, Miami, Dallas, Chicago, San Antonio look significantly stronger.

Fish and Artest are growing older exponentially before our eyes
Bynum looks more like Benoit Benjamin every day
Gasol and Kobe are having more bad games than good.
The team as a whole seems lost
The coaching staff seems ignorant and arrogant at the same time (Phil's in-game TV interview is a prime example)

All that considered, I am most worried about the offense. Defense is about effort and energy which the Lakers usually conserve for later in the season and playoffs. We need a scorer, a big time scorer, a big time player, a bigger version of a young Kobe.
Bynum could be the answer, but right now he has no mobility. The Lakers should monitor his progess coming up to the trading deadline. If he shows marked improvement, great, we keep him and hope he doesn't injure himself again because the next injury will probably be his last.
If Andrew shows minimal to no improvement or shows little hops, lateral movement, and quickness, a trade for Carmello Anthony should be seriously considered.
A Bynum/Artest for Melo trade works and gives the Lakers instant offense.
Someone earlier mentioned a Gasol for Melo trade. Better Pau Gasol at center, who always picks it up in the playoffs and of course is more sound of body than the injury prone Bynum. What you lack in size at the center position with Pau is more than compensated with a Melo acquisition.

MELO IS A BIGGER VERSION OF A YOUNGER KOBE

We have played the worst teams in the league so far, essentially the league gave us an extended pre-season schedule for the first two months of the season to work ourselves into shape and after watching this debacle where we made the Miami Heat look almost as good as the Milwaukee Bucks I am really concerned that Home Court Advantage won't be there in May let alone June.

Don't kid yourself we really need HCA to have any chance to win in the playoffs; the refs won't give us 20 more free throws then the opponent in a game 7 if we are the road team. Not a fun idea trying to play second round in Utah or OKC ; western conference finals in San Antonio or Dallas and then finals in Boston or Miami without HCA.

Last year Boston was able to win the second round and conference finals without HCA but they couldn't win all three without HCA and they were/are way better than us.

Garrett
+++ Should have known when they made Kobe look like a high-schooler in the Olympics____

I believe it was Kobe who won the title game in the olympics because your guys didn't have the huevos to take on the challenge do it on their own.
And neither one of the big 3 had confidence to lead their previous teams on their own.
When Miami has a ring, with this 3 ring circus in the real NBA season I will give them and you credit.


Though I do give credence to your urgency/hunger angle

The Lakers look neither hungry or have a sense of urgency.
Yet.

I don't like them, but the Heat deserve some credit. They are playing through all the hype. The expectations placed on them to perform is greater than that of most all the other teams. Like them or not they are evolving into one of the top teams in the league. What's impressive to me about them is their defense, they seem to have totally bought into the concept of defense winning championships.

And they are playing as a team. Got to give credit where credit is due. If the Heat keep this up, they will be there in the end putting up a good fight against the Celts and Magic. They are playing like a hungry team and that's not how the Lakers are playing. With the season in full swing Labron, Wade and Bosh needed to put up or shut up. They are putting up.

I can certainly understand all the posts complaining about the Lakers struggles and the team deserves the criticism it's getting right now. The players can talk, talk, talk all they want, the only way the Lakers can shut up the complainers is to go out on the court and do what needs to be done.

One thing that is baffling is those comments from people saying things like:
That's it, I'm done with this Lakers team,
That's it, I'm going to start rooting for another team,
etc.

Come on people, even if they are playing poorly, it's still the Lakers!
They may deserve some criticism right now, but to abandon them and to go root for another team because they are struggling just isn't right.

I am as disappointed as anyone in their performance lately and I may also criticize them, but I will be cheering them on and rooting for them until the clock ticks off the final seconds of their last game this season, whenever that happens. And whether they win the Rings again or not I will still be a Lakers fan.

I really don't see what the big deal was. Everyone does realize that we play until April, right? Everyone said the same thing last year about CLE. This loss was painful, but I feel the same way about how the Lakers lost to the Bucks, with 8 players! Truth is, this is a veteran team that will figure it out come playoff time. Everyone wrote the Celtics off last year, they were a 4 seed, and they dominated until the Finals. This team is capable of going that route as well. No Carmelo, no never-going-to-happen trades, and no major line-up changes. This is the team that we are rolling with, and when we are 100% come April, this game will just be an interesting side note.

I am as disappointed as anyone in their performance lately and I may also criticize them, but I will be cheering them on and rooting for them until the clock ticks off the final seconds of their last game this season, whenever that happens. And whether they win the Rings again or not I will still be a Lakers fan. Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | December 26, 2010 at 04:48 AM
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ME TOO!! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

I am as disappointed as anyone in their performance lately and I may also criticize them, but I will be cheering them on and rooting for them until the clock ticks off the final seconds of their last game this season, whenever that happens. And whether they win the Rings again or not I will still be a Lakers fan. Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | December 26, 2010 at 04:48 AM
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ME TOO!! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

Good Morning, Art-Fl Lakers Fan, TNTLakersFan, Lakers4Realz, Sonny Belfast, TrollMan. How are you folks this fine Sunday Morning?

Wake up call: We are 1-4 against teams above .500; our schedule has been as soft as Oprah's ass and we are still a 4 seed in the West, we are getting clobbered at home by good and mediocre teams, the refs aren't giving us 20 more free throws than the opponents (as a matter of fact they are giving the opponents more free throws than us, WTF is up with that?) and we can't score more than 80 points a game.

It is time to push the panic button.

"If Andrew shows minimal to no improvement or shows little hops, lateral movement, and quickness, a trade for Carmello Anthony should be seriously considered"

Are you burning that raunchy SoCal weed again?
Your joking right?

Yea, let's see now.
Let's take our young part-time player...
the same one who admits he is "injury prone"
and has verified it over and over again,
and trade him for...let's see now...who do we trade for?

Ah yes...why not a perennial All-Star from another playoff team?
Carmelo Anthony would be nice!

But wait a minute...
Come to think of it...
You are the Los Angeles Lakers...

With the League, big media, big money, and Brand,
all things are possible! (wink wink)

It's great to be a champion!

Go Kings!
Go Ducks! (At least there is one good team in the Pac 12)
Go Manny, go!

Sonnybelfast

Hey Mamba,

Disappointed but not without hope. Stunk up the joint last night but hopefully better days are right around the corner. A win against the Spurs would put things right back on track.

TNT

"Everyone wrote the Celtics off last year, they were a 4 seed, and they dominated until the Finals."

See my earlier comment about HCA, we need it; and don't kid yourself

Here is an imaginary trade we should take if Washington would make it: Bynum straight up for Javale McGee; McGee is just as big, actually has some athletic ability and is not as injury prone.

Hey Art, you captured my emotions exactly. I'm really interested in seeing just what they do against the Spurs. I really had a good feeling about that Heat game all week, until about 5 minutes before it started. Then I had this funny feeling. Oh well, It Is What It Is. Have a good rest of the weekend my brother!

Hey Art, you captured my emotions exactly. I'm really interested in seeing just what they do against the Spurs. I really had a good feeling about that Heat game all week, until about 5 minutes before it started. Then I had this funny feeling. Oh well, It Is What It Is. Have a good rest of the weekend my brother!

Sonny B, up early with the Sunday morning sermon! Lol! Hope your family had and is having a nice holiday if you celebrate those sort of things.

However, nobody is going to take Andrew's contract, we are stuck with him through at least next year when his ridiculous contract is in its option year

Jolly Joe not everyone wrote the Celtics off. From the beginning of Last season till the end I said the Celtics and Lakers would meet in the Finals. I stand by that for this season also. Most teams go into a funk sometime during the season. The Lakers are just doing theirs early. Add to that reconditioning after injuries and adjusting to new members and their record right now is fine with me. Am I disappointed in the way they lost some of their games? Heck Yeah! Do I think their is something deeper going on with the Lakers? Yep! But I still have faith in my team and as someone said; even if they do not make the Finals, to have gone to 3 Finals in 3 years and won 2 would be a wish beyond compare for any other teams fans. I've been a Lakers fan for 20 years + and anticipate being one for another 20 God willing. Enjoy your weekend my brother.

Keep the faith Mamba but we need HCA and don't kid yourself thinking we don't; without HCA the last two years don't happen and this team would have been de-constructed by now.

Keep the faith Mamba but we need HCA and don't kid yourself thinking we don't; without HCA the last two years don't happen and this team would have been de-constructed by now. Posted by: Jolly Joe | December 26, 2010 at 05:44 AM
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Joe I'm right there with you my brother. Don't confuse my team support for blind faith in the Lakers. I know things are a bit dicey right now, but I just choose to believe that whatever the problem, hopefully it can and will be fixed.

When I said this team needs a lineup shakeup, I was talking about their rotation, not a trade. Bynum for Carmelo? Get real. We'd get chewed up mercilessly by the Celts and every other team with height and muscle at the 5. Pau would be beaten to a pulp (a strategy that EVERY team in the league is now using successfully against us). No, we've got all the pieces to win this again. Phil just needs to rearrange them to find out which pieces want to fight like hell to win this again.

And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas.

And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas. Posted by: CornerJ | December 26, 2010 at 06:52 AM
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LMAO!!!! PREACH CORNERJ, PREACH!! Thank you I needed that! Oh...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carry On!!!

And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas. Posted by: CornerJ | December 26, 2010 at 06:52 AM
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LMAO!!!! PREACH CORNERJ, PREACH!! Thank you I needed that! Oh...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carry On!!!

Are they not embarrassed to Jerry Buss who opened his pocket & paying them the highest salaries in NBA? Where is the Laker pride and joy of sticking w/ the standard of excellence of the purple and gold tradition. There is no justifications and excuses for what is happening in a month now. It could be a sign of decadence of an arrogant Champ that lost the skills along the way because it petty cockiness led to a prolonged hangover. I pity the fans who still believe on the players who have no hearts to compete.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | December 25, 2010 at 11:39 PM

Dude...I coudn't say it better myself.
Heartless, GUTLESS, NO Passion, so what.... it's just PRACTICE SEASON as 888 would say.

G.MONEY, your prediction was right...As far as the Miami game so you can crow my brother. But I still predict the Lakers will be the Last Team Standing come June!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD, - CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN JUNE – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNERJ – OWNER - And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas.
(02) TNTLAKERSFAN – ALT/OWNER - I really don't see what the big deal was. Everyone does realize that we play until April, right? Everyone said the same thing last year about CLE. This loss was painful, but I feel the same way about how the Lakers lost to the Bucks, with 8 players! Truth is, this is a veteran team that will figure it out come playoff time. Everyone wrote the Celtics off last year, they were a 4 seed, and they dominated until the Finals. This team is capable of going that route as well. No Carmelo, no never-going-to-happen trades, and no major line-up changes. This is the team that we are rolling with, and when we are 100% come April, this game will just be an interesting side note.
(03) JOLLY JOE – DRIVER - Keep the faith Mamba but we need HCA and don't kid yourself thinking we don't; without HCA the last two years don't happen and this team would have been de-constructed by now.
(04) ART-FL LAKERS FAN – ALT/DRIVER - One thing that is baffling is those comments from people saying things like: That's it, I'm done with this Lakers team, That's it, I'm going to start rooting for another team, etc. Come on people, even if they are playing poorly, it's still the Lakers! They may deserve some criticism right now, but to abandon them and to go root for another team because they are struggling just isn't right. I am as disappointed as anyone in their performance lately and I may also criticize them, but I will be cheering them on and rooting for them until the clock ticks off the final seconds of their last game this season, whenever that happens. And whether they win the Rings again or not I will still be a Lakers fan.
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – RIDING SHOTGUN1
(06) PHRED – RIDING SHOT GUN2
(07) WESJOENIXON – RIDING SHOTGUN3
(08) FAN OF THE MAMBA – SECURITY
(09) MAMBA24 - Most teams go into a funk sometime during the season. The Lakers are just doing theirs early. Add to that reconditioning after injuries and adjusting to new members and their record right now is fine with me. Am I disappointed in the way they lost some of their games? Heck Yeah! Do I think their is something deeper going on with the Lakers? Yep! But I still have faith in my team and as someone said; even if they do not make the Finals, to have gone to 3 Finals in 3 years and won 2 would be a wish beyond compare for any other teams fans. I've been a Lakers fan for 20 years + and anticipate being one for another 20 God willing.
(10) LAKERS4REAZ – SECURITY - SAME EXACT THING happened last year around this SAME Time.....lakers blown out uninspired play against the cavs....then what happened? yah we won the title. lets worry if they play like this come april..until then i am not buying all this crap about us being DONE.
(11) THE TRIANGULATOR - It's not a big deal to lose on Xmas-Day. Lakers' D was like Xmas pudding and their offense was as if they ate too much fruit cake for breakfast. Princess Jimmy can have the Xmas Trophy. Let them eat fruit cake! Championships are won in June...
(12) DWNTWNATTY - Lakers just seem plain uninterested in basketball at the moment. I watch every Lakers game even though my frequent refrain is that the regular season is pre-season training and nothing more. I have no doubt that the quality of our ball will greatly improve sometime between now and March/April. We will make a run, and even now I think we will be Champions.
(13) FRMKT - Looking forward to the 2nd half of the season and for the team to become fully healthy, focused and deadly. We're still in it to win it all so go ahead, get down on the team, point out all of their flaws and vent to your heart’s content. Just remember: it ain't over until it's over and we're nowhere near that terminal point yet! GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!
(14)

What's up Laker Nation. Opinions are so diverse on this blog, ranging from the sky is falling [small percentile ACTUALLY Laker fans], something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Look guys, Phil's opinions about Christmas, shouldn't reflect the state of the team, it doesn't really explain why they win some of those games on Christmas, does it? Opinions are like noses, we've all got one. I think it's still premature to label them this or that, or they're not ready, blah, blah, blah.
It's like looking at a Picasso painting that's only half done and saying, it's garbage, he lost his avant garde, his edge and than when he unveils his whole exhibit and the crowd goes bananas, because the body of work is so exquisite. It's quite humorous to see all this unbalanced passion.

History is the best teacher, so, here is the skinny: In 2001 at this point in the season, the Lakers were just as inconsistent, by 1 game, than they are now. Never got any traction until that 8 game winning streak, and won 15 of a possible 16 games.

In 2002, they came out of the gate strong in the first half of the season and the productivity slipped in the 2nd half of the season, when the playoffs came around, Spurs, Kings were 'supposedly' going to destroy the Lakers. Never happened, Lakers beat Spurs in five and the Kings in seven games, en route to another championship.

What me, [Laker fan{s}] worry?

Sustained excellence is difficult. The last team to get to the NBA Finals 4 years in row? The Lakers, 1982-1985. Over 25 years ago. A team has to overcome injury, age and what Pat Riley called "the disease of me' to stay at that level.


This Laker team is fighting that battle right now. On the physical front, Kobe and Drew are rebounding from surgeries. Artest has lost much of his athleticism. Fish keeps getting older.


Mentally? Winning is about playing harder than the other team. It's about paying attention to details. About execution. Mental toughness.


My view is that the Lakers, physically, still have the ability to get it done. They'll be better as Drew gets stronger. But they are still relatively young and healthy. But after three long seasons running into June, after the validation of three Finals and two titles, it seems they lack the motivation and focus to play hard every night over 82 games, and especially that they lack the ability to focus on the details of execution that make a difference.


This year, the Lakers will not have the best record. What we have to hope for as fans is that they find that motivation at some point, and that they become the team they can be in time for the playoffs.


Its going to be an 82 game slog waitng for the playoffs.

Sustained excellence is difficult. The last team to get to the NBA Finals 4 years in row? The Lakers, 1982-1985. Over 25 years ago. A team has to overcome injury, age and what Pat Riley called "the disease of me' to stay at that level. This Laker team is fighting that battle right now. Posted by: Tom Daniels | December 26, 2010 at 07:32 AM
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Yes I have to say it…OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!
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JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD, - CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN JUNE – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNERJ – OWNER - And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas.
(02) TNTLAKERSFAN – ALT/OWNER - I really don't see what the big deal was. Everyone does realize that we play until April, right? Everyone said the same thing last year about CLE. This loss was painful, but I feel the same way about how the Lakers lost to the Bucks, with 8 players! Truth is, this is a veteran team that will figure it out come playoff time. Everyone wrote the Celtics off last year, they were a 4 seed, and they dominated until the Finals. This team is capable of going that route as well. No Carmelo, no never-going-to-happen trades, and no major line-up changes. This is the team that we are rolling with, and when we are 100% come April, this game will just be an interesting side note.


(14) FRMKT - Looking forward to the 2nd half of the season and for the team to become fully healthy, focused and deadly. We're still in it to win it all so go ahead, get down on the team, point out all of their flaws and vent to your heart’s content. Just remember: it ain't over until it's over and we're nowhere near that terminal point yet! GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!
(15) CHARLESINOC - Relax, it's only one game and the season is long. phil jackson and kobe bryants leadership will lead this team into performing better before the season ends. The 3rd championship is too important for Kobe and Phil to let go. have faith, and use your brains. Stop all your stupid comments.
(16) RICKLAFAN - I wouldn't worry about Miami--there's no way they're getting past Boston. Still too one-dimensional, not enough height & length.
(17) OCLEZY - Big ups to the heat any way they played harder than we did and deserve to come ot with the win.We'll gett them next time. Go lakers
(18) VMAN - Well, that was convincing. Well done, Heat. This is going to be an uphill slog through the mud till the playoffs. It's still December and Miami won't make the big dance.
The hell with media bragging rights the big game is San Antonio
(19) HUGO BOSS – Colorado still loves our World Champion Lakers!
(20) LONGTIMELAKERFAN - MY prediction...If fully healthy, the Lakers will make it out of the West, regardless of their seeding (and regardless of the health of San Antonio, Dallas, et al). and if the Celtics &/or the Heat are fully healthy, the Heat will NOT make it out of the East. The Lakers took a week off mentally. They lost 8 straight quarters and 2 straight games. Kinda sucks for the people who bought tickets for those games. But they'll regroup, practice harder, get Bynum more integrated, get the offense flowing more smoothly again, and start cranking out the wins.
How these teams play in May and June matters a lot. How they play in December? not so much.
(21) TOM DANIELS - Sustained excellence is difficult. The last team to get to the NBA Finals 4 years in row? The Lakers, 1982-1985. Over 25 years ago. A team has to overcome injury, age and what Pat Riley called "the disease of me' to stay at that level. This Laker team is fighting that battle right now. On the physical front, Kobe and Drew are rebounding from surgeries. Artest has lost much of his athleticism. Fish keeps getting older.Mentally? Winning is about playing harder than the other team. It's about paying attention to details. About execution. Mental toughness. My view is that the Lakers, physically, still have the ability to get it done. They'll be better as Drew gets stronger. But they are still relatively young and healthy. But after three long seasons running into June, after the validation of three Finals and two titles, it seems they lack the motivation and focus to play hard every night over 82 games, and especially that they lack the ability to focus on the details of execution that make a difference. This year, the Lakers will not have the best record. What we have to hope for as fans is that they find that motivation at some point, and that they become the team they can be in time for the playoffs. Its going to be an 82 game slog waitng for the playoffs.

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JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD, - CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN JUNE – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNERJ – OWNER - And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas.

(22) SEAN - In 2002, they came out of the gate strong in the first half of the season and the productivity slipped in the 2nd half of the season, when the playoffs came around, Spurs, Kings were 'supposedly' going to destroy the Lakers. Never happened, Lakers beat Spurs in five and the Kings in seven games, en route to another championship. What me, [Laker fan{s}] worry?

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JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD, - CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN JUNE – BANDWAGON
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(01) CORNERJ – OWNER - And for the record, I'm behind this team all the way no matter what. You Miami fans and trolls who take delight in the Lakers' temporary misfortunes (cough***sonny belfast***cough) might just want to wait until someone actually takes the crown off our heads in June. You might also go online to see if Emeril has any good recipes for crow. You're going to need it, suckas.

(22) SEAN - In 2002, they came out of the gate strong in the first half of the season and the productivity slipped in the 2nd half of the season, when the playoffs came around, Spurs, Kings were 'supposedly' going to destroy the Lakers. Never happened, Lakers beat Spurs in five and the Kings in seven games, en route to another championship. What me, [Laker fan{s}] worry?

Mamba24- Dude what a SAD bandwagon, Bump in the ROAD......are you SERIOUS. I've been tell you Lakerholics at the beginning of this season, it's not gona happen.

I don't want to hear about HISTORY, last season what you did. The fact is Kobe(bless his little heart and BIG ego) is just not that MAMBA of old anymore.

I said a BEAT DOWN..right, I said the team need to bring some KY...right, I said KING JAMES was going to EMBARRASSES Ron Ron...right.
Then why wouldn't you listen to what I'm trying to tell you.

The problem with you Lakerholics are your afraid of losing Power, the team is circling the DRAIN fast. You can't except the two time champs are looking down right.....what's a good word? pathetic is over used, heartless and gutless are too. well, you fill in the blank, I know you can. STALE, UNINTERESTED, DESIRE hell you can use any word, it fits.

There will be a new Champion in 2011, and deep down inside, that sinking gut feeling tells you so. It's been a GREAT run and it's been fun, but it's OVER.

I know you die hard will continue to beat the drums and the BANDWAGONS,
but just remember. Just enjoy the RIDE, and you can play GM in the OFF season.

Let me give a very specific example of why the "Lakers are too old and too slow to win it all" taunts and whines are craptastic. Did anybody besides me happen to watch the Celtics game? Sure, they lost after a great 14 game run, but did you see how The Big Pillsbury Doughboy Most Puffiest Center Ever was hustling all over the court and even blocking shots? THAT's what I'm talkin' 'bout. Three fourths of that team is older than most of our team, but they're playing some of their best basketball in years, and they are by far the best defensive team in the league, in spite of their age and their fatboys down low. Yeah, THAT is what this team needs to think of and to copy in the remaining months when the Bill Plaschkes write that the Lakers are too old and too slow.

And, sorry, 83-79, you're fatboys are STILL going to lose to us (in 6 again) in June.

“History is the best teacher, so, here is the skinny: In 2001 at this point in the season, the Lakers were just as inconsistent, by 1 game, than they are now. Never got any traction until that 8 game winning streak, and won 15 of a possible 16 games.

In 2002, they came out of the gate strong in the first half of the season and the productivity slipped in the 2nd half of the season, when the playoffs came around, Spurs, Kings were 'supposedly' going to destroy the Lakers. Never happened, Lakers beat Spurs in five and the Kings in seven games, en route to another championship.

What me, [Laker fan{s}] worry?”

Posted by: Sean | December 26, 2010 at 07:29 AM

You make a good point.
History is a good teacher,
and no doubt, it will repeat itself.

Revel in your accomplishments.

This could be you, again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpPCKn9ZX3w&feature=related

Maybe you'll win another ***championship.

Sonnybelfast

Bill article was point on and he is a master journalist. I was talking about this Xmas game from couple weeks ago. I sounded the alarm. I have been a fan from the first time I saw a game on tv at 10 years old which was 30 years ago. But the Lakers are in big trouble right now. Back in the eighties if the Lakers swept the regular season against Boston we won and if vice versa it was Boston. Right now we are playing with no passion or effort and this will come back to haunt us come playoff time. People talked about Boston last year who struggled year and came within a few baskets of winning it all. Guess what LA we are not Boston. While Boston is gritty we are glamorous. Boston has KG who is intense and totally focused on defense. LA has nobody like that right now. Boston fans are rowdy and uncouth and LA fans who sho up to games are sophisticated. Doc make no excuse for his players while PJ just sits there and complain about the referring or playing on Xmas day. Boston is playing without their starting pg the League's top assist man plus their top defensive center and they have the second best record in the NBA. Bynum was out for couple weeks and all I heard was poor Gasol. Boston don't need hca but LA do.

>>>At what point will the bloggers, media and fans begin to scrutinize Phil Jackson?

Pfunk,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you criticizing Phil's coaching last year? And the year before? And the year before that?

Three finals and two championships later, you still think anyone will buy into your anti-Phil drivel?

Are you trying to replace Mike T?

I know you die hard will continue to beat the drums and the BANDWAGONS,
but just remember. Just enjoy the RIDE, and you can play GM in the OFF season. Posted by: G.Money | December 26, 2010 at 07:50 AM
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ROTFLMAO!!! Every dog has it's day G.Money! This is yours so enjoy it...You aint gonna get many more like it!!! But yes you did say a beatdown. And yes that is pretty much what it was. But then since some of us call this a PRACTICE SEASON - LOL! I would prefer the analogy of a Boxers Training Camp where the Champion is preparing for the title fight. The champ looks like hell in camp as he tries out new techniques and figures out what will work and what won't. The Sparing partners some times looks like the next great thing and sometimes even manage to floor the Champ. Does this make them championship material? Hardly! So The Lakers do what they got to do during the regular season in order to do what they got to do to win the Rings. As I recall the Shaq Kobe 3-peat team in one season - just limped into the playoffs looking terrible. Then proceeded to win 12 playoff games in a row before losing 1 then winning 3 in a row. So G.Money, My money still is on the Lakers. But you enjoy the Heat victory in this PRACTICE SEASON, I will enjoy the Lakers victory in The FINALS!!!

>>>Looks like Lebron is still the best player in the league.

Well... the best CHRISTMAS player in the league, anyway.

When he learns not to give up during the playoffs maybe he can earn that other title you're prematurely giving him.

And I think he will. (unless Kevin Durant beats him to it).

PREACH LTLF, PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Revel in your accomplishments. This could be you, again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpPCKn9ZX3w&feature=related
Maybe you'll win another ***championship. Sonnybelfast Posted by: Sonnybelfast | December 26, 2010 at 08:00 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!!! LMAO!!! Happy Holidays to you and your Sonny. I feel so much better after seeing such an inspiration film!!! Fix it for us Darth Stern!!! Please Fix it for us!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

@CORNERJ , You are on......FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

PLEASE FOLKS....PLEASE give the KING his due RESPECT. Now I see who the REAL HATERS are, the BEST PLAYER in the ASSOCIATION.

Don't dis-respect yourself by showing no respect, He's JUST THE BEST, APPRECIATE.

Plus we can't compare to Houston who won the chip as the 7th seed in the 1990s. Houston was led by The Dream who was the most talented Big Man I ever saw play basketball. He was simply awesome. Then he was surrounded by players who had something to prove with chips on their shoulders. Guys from the CBA like Mario Ellie and Robert Horry. Plus a cocky second year player in Sam cassell. Kenny Smith who was being upstaged by Cassell had something to prove as well. Finally an aging former superstar in Clyde Drexler. They were led by an inspirational coach Rudy Tomjonavich. Remember his words, "Never doubt the hearts of a champion". When you are the 4th to 8th seed you need inspirational leaders and lakers have none. I know Fisher give speeches but he doesn't do much and Kobe likes to internalize things. Phil is where you put me.

Hey G.Money

- who are you talking to? Is it all the Trash Talkers, I don't know. Who's not giving James respect first of all? Don't broad stroke all of us man. Got some names? Be a man, say what you say- mention names, I take umbrage with you for that.

Lebron James is an incredible player, who ever is not giving his due, is because it's simple trash talking, which is fine as long as it's not personal or malicious. I've been a Laker fan since '90. Lebron James is a great player, the second group of people who rally hate around him are just jealous, plain and simple. Look, any Laker fan worth his salt would say he's great, and I don't compare James or Bean, so as far as that conversation goes, I'm disinterested.

Show some guts and respect yourself, if you have grievances, air them respectfully, if not, your claims of disrespect of James and his personality and his skill set, is dubious. It is what it is man, show some respect yourself.

Biggest surprise was the lack of boos from the crowd. Sure, there were some but far from adequate. But then again, we have the same type of fans as we have team: Blasé (at least the ones who can afford to go to the game). It's kind of ironic watching some bimbo on text row (that would be courtside seats) twittering away during the game and then think of the fact that some people have actually paid over 40.000$ for a seat to this reeking dung pile of a game.

I used to call LeBron Burger King over the last several years. But people LeBron is a baad man. A triple double on Xmas day was incredible. His brand went up while Kobe's fell. I didn't like his TV special but leaving Cleveland and being reviled was the best thing to happen to him. Before he was too playful now he is playing like a man possessed and a chip on his shoulder. Now his true potential can come out. I watch his game against Cleveland and I was impressed by him for maybe the first time in his career. During pre game warm ups most players spend little energy doing layup drills and shooting jumpers. Not LeBron, he performing dunks that would have won him the slam dunk championship in most years. Meanwhile the crowd is as hostile as ever and he silenced them. He dominated. LeBron has turned the corner folks. Just like how Reggie Miller loved hostile arenas LeBron seemed to revel in it. I agree with Magic it is time to appreciate James. If the lakers were to falter I would rather the Heat winning over the Celtics.

EH!!!!It's not over til Kobe says it's over!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know they are asked to speak to the media or get fined.
They'd better get fined than spin this BS.
Get ready for another four game losing streak, no way the Lakers beat SA or NO, they are getting toast. If you think the Heat spanked them the Spurs will trample them. Maybe Jackson needs to get beaten bad again to start putting his genius to work.

These past two losses and the next ones aren't about "lack of effort." They are about a team that is simply not good enough.
The main problem is Fisher, he can't play anymore, sure he will probably make a basket to win a game once every year, but the rest of the games he simply sucks. One thing is to look like he's playing hard another is to play good. He should swallow his pride and either retire or sit on the bench. He's a major liability. Play Shannon Brown until he proves that he can't.

Need to bench Artest, this guy is way out to lunch. OK so he got his ring, now he has returned to the way he played before he came to the Lakers.
Get Bynum going if he's healthy, Gasol can't play against a physical zone, weve known this, nothing new.

And Jackson needs to stop blaming the players and look at the way he is making adjustments to the zone defenses and to the way the other teams are attacking his defensive scheme. Put up or shut up.

Game 30 out of 88.

*yawn*

Can't believe the Lakers can live with bringing this STINK to the court night after night! Excuse me while I go yack my turkey dinner...

I hope Pau grows a pair soon! Or actually goes into the weight room and lifts something!


Bynum has no lift at all and this far into his 'recovery' makes me think (from personal experience) he will be playing below the rim most of the remaining year that he remains uninjured.


Artest, Fish, Kobe even, have lost all lift and have almost no business going into the trees anymore. This means the only above the rim player we have (remember LO likes to mostly guide his 'layups' over the rim not throw them down) is Shannon Brown, and all NBA teams know this and clog it up when he gets the ball.


So, unless the Lakers are planning to set an NBA record for FG% this year with Js, things look dim.


I also agree that PJs time has come and gone. This may be his last year, but he is also mailing it in and without some coach stepping up to blow a gasket into the attitudes of 90% of the team, then we will be lucky to even clinch our division, let alone advance in the playoffs!


Everyone has been dissing the Heat as a team that gets beat by bigs inside.....except apparently the Lakers "bigs" who played more like a HS girls team playing 6' tall and 140#.


I will continue to root, but have run out of lucky hats and t-shirts! Even my Chargers luck has run out this year. Maybe 2011 will bring new players/attitudes from those around HoFer Kobe to go get another ring! Who knows, but it looks pathetic right now.

for a big man pau is sorry has not mean streak shoot little
soft lay up when he should be attacking the basket.get rid of phil jack and hire someone who is hungry for a win.

when a team plays that bad there is a coaching or lack of
coaching.

Thanks mamba24, no doubt we 'll get em next time.
Go lakers!

Teams perfect for that 3-peat but I think barnes needs to switch with Artest in the lineup that way browns not our only threat off the bench since bynums CLEARLY not healthy


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