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New Laker Joe Smith weighs in

Just call it The 12 Teams (Before) Christmas

But, seriously, who is keeping track of how many teams Joe Smith has played for in the NBA?

"I lost count," said the 35-year-old Smith, laughing.

Smith, who was acquired by the Lakers in a multi-team trade earlier this week, spoke with a few reporters at a downtown health club in Philadelphia Thursday afternoon. He was only allowed to observe practice, an optional session, having just had his physical earlier in the day.

The closest he has come to a championship was with the Cavaliers when they lost in the Eastern Conference semifinals to Boston in 2008. It was only natural he thought that the shot to win might have passed him by … until the trade.

"I did. But I was still hopeful that something could happen that I could end up in a place like this," said Smith, who played only four games for the New Jersey Nets this season. "I was excited when I got the phone call. Kind of sad and excited.

"It's kind of a two-way street. You are leaving a young group of guys you've grown close to. But at the same time you have to look at a bigger picture, especially at this point in my career."

All the years of moving doesn’t mean getting traded is routine.

"It never gets any easier,” Smith said. "I mean, somehow I accumulate more stuff when I get to a city than I ever expected. Yesterday was a long day with me packing and trying to get as much stuff in suitcases as I could."

One bonus is that his family is close by, in Arizona, and his 12-year-old son was thrilled by the development.

"He texted me, 'Are you really a Laker?'"  Smith said. "He was pumped up about it. Very excited. He plays. He loves to play. Every time I'm in the gym, he’s in the gym."

Smith was equally excited. He got a text message from his agent less than an hour before the Nets played Philadelphia on Tuesday night.

"I heard Los Angeles Lakers and I smiled the whole game,” he said, laughing, again.

-Lisa Dillman
Reporting From Philadelphia

 

 
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Lrob/TRUTH

I'm glad somebody found it funny.. U two must obviously play and understand fantasy bball.. Kobemvp666 must not play so he obviously does not get the gist of the joke but is again recklessly coming to his own delusional conclusions and was again very quick to the trigger with more of his varmint like baseless accusations now questioning my intent??!! Who does he think he is JUDGE JUDY??!! LOL

Just more incendiary remarks from the blogs most famous mercenary.. Its like walkin on eggshells with this self appointed blog cop.. Can a man get some space around here??!! Sheeeshh! But life must go on!

What I will say is that the team that ends up winning isn't always the best. Detroit and Miami are two recent examples that I think everyone can agree with.

Posted by: Bay to LA | December 16, 2010 at 05:02 PM
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I can't agree with that. Detroit dominated the Lakers in that series and was clearly the better TEAM. The best team is the team that wins the CHAMPIONSHIP. Period. In ANY sport. THTAT is the ultimate goal and the ultimate prize. Everything else isn't even OPINION, it's SPECUALTION.

Is it too hard to continue your 'fight' on the old thread? Why bring it over?

Nice answers to the early questions for Joe Smith. He's a vet. If his body stays healthy for the year, he'll be some help here and there and in the locker room. I like that his son is stoked about him coming to LA - something to brag to the other kids about in school. Very cool for all of them. And, with luck, the entire Lakers squad as well.

yellofever

Your mean-spirited post above speaks for itself. That unnecessary, scathing mockery of Derek Fisher was about as much about Fantasy Basketball as the Sasha trade was about obtaining Joe Smith. And you know it. Your whole point was that Fish puts up worse numbers than any point guard in the league. Ha ha ha. You're hilarious. Not only did you mock out his statistical deficiencies, you went out of your way to minimize the important things he does for the team as a leader in your transparent sarcastic way. ALL Lakers fans a owe a LOT to Derek Fisher, yet you choose to mock him relentlessly. Have at it.

Keenobserver

Which one?? I think kobemvp is actively engaged in like 4 different fights at the moment and relishing every minute of it... But was busy all day n didn't get a chance to respond earlier but I see your point. My bad!

Thanks YF.

KobeMVP888,

you wrote: he learned how to win championships under the tutelage of Phil Jackson. To say that Shaq is anything less than a champion is simply not true despite all these "facts" you flung out there. It's still a team game and, whether you want to accept it or not, he was still the Big Centerpiece.

my response: If he learned how to win championships under Phil Jackson
then why did he lose with the Cavs? You'll notice that Kobe won, against the
same team, with the Lakers. The regular season record clearly illustrates
that the Cavs were playing better basketball. The MVP clearly illustrates that
voters thought LBJ was better than Kobe.

You're going off topic. No one has denied that he was the most dominant
center in the NBA, at the time. *THAT* is not the point. THE POINT is that
he didn't learn how to win championships. That is shown by him NOT
elevating the PHX suns and by losing with the Cavs.

This:

It's interesting that just because it came out of Shaq's mouth, you choose to discredit it. The TRUTH is that you ignored the message and focused on who delivered it (me and then Shaq as my inherently unreliable source).

Is particularly flawed!

I don't disagree with it because it's out of Shaq's mouth. I disagree with it
because Shaq is an idiot!

http://coachingbetterbball.blogspot.com/2007/11/hubie-browns-winning-philosophy.html

snippet:
Winning Philosophy

- Can you get high percentage shots for your two best shooters?
- Who do you go to for the last shot?
- Must have one closers---

- Can they make the shot if open?
- Can they create out of a trap with a pass or by use of the dribble?
- Can they create off the dribble and get fouled?
- Can they make the foul shot?
- Can they handle defeat?

http://www.nba.com/news/auerbach_tribute.html
snippet:
And he understood the chemistry of a team. People tend to think teamwork is some mysterious force. It isn't. It can, really, be manufactured, and he knew how to do that, to serve each player's needs. And, people always say you need to know how to win. But that's not enough if you want to keep winning. You also have to know why you win. Red always knew that, too."

http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/bill-russell.html
snippet:
Psychologically he was always ready to out-play the opponent and was always one step ahead of everyone. Bill was a smart player who was the epitome of a winning master mind. Whatever the game wanted from him, he would adapt.

And no matter how much he won, that didn't make him goofing off because it was his promise that he made to himself, that he's gonna give his all in order to win.

http://www.4evayoung.com/the-legend-michael-jordan-on-winning/
snippet:
2. Winners Work Harder And Smarter
“I’ve always believed that if you put in the work, the results will come. I don’t do things half-heartedly. Because I know if I do, then I can expect half-hearted results.” – Michael Jordan

It is always surprising to hear people who talk about achieving success in their field, instead of being willing to put in the hard work they look for short cuts. They look to gain as much as they can by working as little as they can. To look for shortcuts is a fools game, no one ever achieved excellence in any great undertaking by subscribing to the ethic of laziness.


I don't deny that basketball is a team sport. I don't deny that Shaq was
dominant. What I do deny is that it was Shaq that made the Lakers win.
The truth is that it was Phil, Shaq & Kobe + role players. The truth is that
if Shaq had been willing to work harder the Lakers would have kept him
and the Lakers would have won more.

You are free to glibly/blindly quote cliches all you want. The *facts* are that
while there may be few in the NBA who were ever blessed with Shaq's gifts
there people who have won more and had more success. IN EVERY CASE,
those people exhibit more determination & a higher work ethic than Shaq.

Here's the real reason why your philosophy is broken:

Your philosophy does not take time into account. You don't know the future.
You can't count on staying healthy. You never know when the other team is
going to have a "miracle" game.

Winners don't want to give the other team a smidgeon of hope. We can
agree to disagree on this.

I will just close by saying ... the greatest winners in the NBA and in life don't
subscribe to your opinion. Do what you will.

"I can't agree with that. Detroit dominated the Lakers in that series and was clearly the better TEAM. The best team is the team that wins the CHAMPIONSHIP. Period. In ANY sport. THTAT is the ultimate goal and the ultimate prize. Everything else isn't even OPINION, it's SPECUALTION.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 05:43 PM "

Very interesting. So even though the Lakers had won championships in 3 of the last 4 years and I don't think anyone on that Pistons team had ever won anything, the Pistons were the better team? Interesting how matchups play out sometimes, isn't it? It kind of makes me wonder why you're so dismissive of anyone thinking the Lakers are ever in even the slightest danger of not repeating.

Sometimes the better teams win, sometimes they don't. It's about matchups, it's about who's hot at the right time, etc. That's what upsets are all about. In the world you speak of, upsets do not exist.


yellofever

Nope, just two. You and your alter ego LAKER TRUTH because you go out of your way to insult me among other things.

hobbit commented on one of my posts where I said that Shaq's formula for regular season success in preparation for the playoffs was a strong record at home and win the games you're supposed to win on the road, but hobbit chose to discredit my post because the comment originated from Shaq, so he did not address the substance of the comment. I tried my best to steer that into a civil conversation. I don't think that's a "fight," but if that's how you see it, then you'll have to blame your buddy hobbitmage for that one.

I THINK the conversation I'm having with Bay to LA in a sincere disagreement without any malice intended either way. The fact that you are trying to convince the entire blogosphere that I'm the troublemaker doesn't bother me at all because it is clear that it's the Half-Empty Club!

But you and LAKER TRUTH get great joy in criticizing the Lakers and meeting my pro-Lakers comments with excessive force, so what choice do you give me?

P.S.- Oops, I forgot about ouchhhhhhh! That shows you what I think of him. LMAO!

Joe Smith has got to feel like a rookie.... he is probably taking cold showers.... his family has a new wardrobe already.... the guys heels haven't hit the ground in days.... his cheeks hurt from smiling.... he moonwalks into rooms....now he knows what it feels like to hit the lottery....

I like Joe, I think he is going to bring an appreciation to this team it's lacked...

look out now

Laker fans has no class. You're all way too genius about basketball. I can beat kobe 1on1

hobbit

"If he learned how to win championships under Phil Jackson then why did he lose with the Cavs?"

Shaq is not the dominant player he was and, let's face it, after LeBron the pieces weren't there. Also, he was injured down the stretch and didn't play and wasn't ready for the playoffs anyway. He's a little long in the tooth, don't you think?

"I don't disagree with it because it's out of Shaq's mouth. I disagree with it
because Shaq is an idiot!"

I can't speculate what you thought about him back then when he said this, so I won't.

"Your philosophy does not take time into account. You don't know the future.
You can't count on staying healthy. You never know when the other team is
going to have a "miracle" game."

No, I don't have a crystal ball and I try not to make predictions (my 1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!! .. is a tribute to a great Lakers fan and blogger I knew). I am a big believer that history repeats itself. Historically, Shaq's "formula" has worked with championship caliber teams. Just look at the records of the Boston Celtics in the 60's. During the championship seasons of 1968 and 1969, they won 54 and 48 games, respectively.

http://www.nbauniverse.com/teams/records_boston_celtics.htm

I agree with what you say about teamwork, but I don't minimize Shaq's role with the 2000-02 three-peat Lakers teams. I resent the way he has treated the organization since his departure, but I'm still grateful for the championships.

I look at the shaq thing like this....since he left all the division within the ranks has gone with him...the lakers are family....shaq has left a trail of turmoil...

Phil ended up with Kobe not Shaq

I rest my case.....

You &^%$% get the hell off of our blog.

seriously.

Sometimes the better teams win, sometimes they don't. It's about matchups, it's about who's hot at the right time, etc. That's what upsets are all about. In the world you speak of, upsets do not exist.


Posted by: Bay to LA | December 16, 2010 at 06:22 PM
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Of course they do. Didn't the Giants defeat the 18-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl a couple of years back? How about this year's San Francisco Giants? The the team who achieves the upset and wins the championship is by all accounts the BEST team. Rarely does history remember the team that finished second. Yes, I suppose that's the world I live in.

In a 7 game series, the best team wins. You remember that 2003-04 season. The Lakers finished with the third best record in the Western Conference with 56 wins behind the Wolves and Spurs. It took a Game 5 miracle by D-Fish with 0.4 left on the clock to send Game 6 back to LA in Round 2. Then we defeated the injury depleted Wolves in 6 games and then came the Finals. We should have lost Game 1, but for a miracle 3 by Kobe and some solid play by a rookie named Luke Walton. But we were thoroughly outplayed. The Pistons then rolled over us in 4 straight because they were the surprisingly better TEAM. Karl Malone was out and Chauncey Billups made Gary Payton look like an old man. Horry and Shaw were gone and Fox was a disappointing remnant of his former self. Our key role players were Devean George, Slava Medvedenko, Fish and Kareem Rush. Was that REALLY the better TEAM? No. The Pistons team defense was smothering, featuring 4 time DPOY BenWallace, a solid post defender in Rasheed Wallace, the 6'9" length of Tayshain Prince on Kobe, not to mention the double and triple teams. They used the 24 second clock brilliantly at both ends of the floor. Not only was that a better team, it is an historically underrated team.

No series eats at the hearts of modern day Lakers fans more than these NBA Finals. Even more than the 2008 Finals because most of us did not expect to be there before the season started. But the fact is that they absolutely lost to a team better prepared to win a championship.

THE LOVE IS GETTING ANGRY.

THE TROLL DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THE LOVE GET ANGRY

THE LOVE IS GOING TO DO, WELL, THE LOVE IS NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN WHAT THE LOVE WILL DO, BUT IT WILL BE THE TERRORS OF THE EARTH!

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

KobeMVP888, u forgot to mention that Kobe still faced the possibility of jail time during those Finals. Stern would never have let Kobe hold the trophy that year.

"Of course they do. Didn't the Giants defeat the 18-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl a couple of years back? How about this year's San Francisco Giants? The the team who achieves the upset and wins the championship is by all accounts the BEST team. Rarely does history remember the team that finished second. Yes, I suppose that's the world I live in.

In a 7 game series, the best team wins. You remember that 2003-04 season. The Lakers finished with the third best record in the Western Conference with 56 wins behind the Wolves and Spurs. It took a Game 5 miracle by D-Fish with 0.4 left on the clock to send Game 6 back to LA in Round 2. Then we defeated the injury depleted Wolves in 6 games and then came the Finals. We should have lost Game 1, but for a miracle 3 by Kobe and some solid play by a rookie named Luke Walton. But we were thoroughly outplayed. The Pistons then rolled over us in 4 straight because they were the surprisingly better TEAM. Karl Malone was out and Chauncey Billups made Gary Payton look like an old man. Horry and Shaw were gone and Fox was a disappointing remnant of his former self. Our key role players were Devean George, Slava Medvedenko, Fish and Kareem Rush. Was that REALLY the better TEAM? No. The Pistons team defense was smothering, featuring 4 time DPOY BenWallace, a solid post defender in Rasheed Wallace, the 6'9" length of Tayshain Prince on Kobe, not to mention the double and triple teams. They used the 24 second clock brilliantly at both ends of the floor. Not only was that a better team, it is an historically underrated team.

No series eats at the hearts of modern day Lakers fans more than these NBA Finals. Even more than the 2008 Finals because most of us did not expect to be there before the season started. But the fact is that they absolutely lost to a team better prepared to win a championship.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 07:21 PM "

The Giants winning this year are a very good recent example of what I am talking about. They got hot at the right time and won. They are the champions, no one can dispute that. But would they have won regardless of what matchups they got, how hot they were, how lucky they were, etc.? Probably not. Are the Giants the favorite to win next year? No.

There is nothing about a 7 game series that guarantees the better team will win. It is not even about determining who is better, it's simply a contest. In the NBA for instance, once you use the regular season to become a top 16 team, you're in the playoffs. Once you're in the playoffs, you have to win 4 out of 7 games against 4 teams. It does not matter how you stack up to the other 11 teams.

The thing is, using the logic you use now, you would have been dismissing anyone that was concerned about the Lakers in 2003 and 2004. After all, the Lakers had the championship experience over teams like the Pistons and Spurs. The Lakers would flip the switch when it mattered, etc. Before the finals, was there ever a point in 2004 when you thought Detroit was a better team than the Lakers? And when did you think the Spurs were better than the Lakers in 2003?


I was going to post something positive here, but obviously a bunch of know-it-alls got here first.

Sad. I'll hold my tongue for something better.
(Great game in Indiana, though!)

Detroit better than the Lakers? Ha! Anyone recall Karl Malone limping around the court on only one leg?

Bay to LA

Like you said, in my world the CHAMPION is the best team. I am immovable on that, ESPECIALLY in a 7 game series. If you win the match up battle and then the series, I don't care who you would have played, when you got hot (that's the whole idea anyway) or who you could have beaten. Despite your sound logic, my way of thinking relies on results while yours relies purely on speculation. But good discussion.

Holy crap! I just saw the best dunk of the year!

Half Empty Club, Toxic Triad, and Which Laker to Hate Today Club

All the same and one, led by the infamous loser ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It kind of makes me wonder why you're so dismissive of anyone thinking the Lakers are ever in even the slightest danger of not repeating.

Posted by: Bay to LA | December 16, 2010 at 06:22 PM

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I have NEVER said that. I just don't give the same reasons as others. I don't put as much weight on the regular season as others and, after last season, it surprises me that any Lakers fan puts so much importance on it. Seriously. You would think that everyone knew the team better by now. The 1968 Celtics won only 48 games, but they knew what it took and the 1995 Rockets did it with 47 wins. They won the previous year and knew what it took.

I believe that if we are HEALTHY, only the Lakers can beat the Lakers. If Bynum is 100%, I believe we can be dominant in the playoffs. We still have the same advantage at the 4-5 position over every team in the NBA, we still have Kobe Bryant and we're deeper. If we are not healthy, of course anything can happen. And to think we won it last year all banged up.

Please don't make that assumption about me. Before it became evident in the 2007-08 season that something special might be happening, I was Mitch Kupchak's biggest critic and I thought that Phil Jackson's coaching career might have run its course. But now that we are where we are and all the pieces are back in place and then some, what the heck is there to be skeptical about?

I think Joe Smith will be a good Laker.

This was a good trade.

I wish Sasha well.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Pau Gasol,

These people aren't Lakers fans. Please understand that. They're not us.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Why isn't there a better moving service for players? They shouldn't have to worry at all about packing, especially when coming to the royalty of the NBA. Sure pack one suitcase for each family member, but after that it s/b effortless so the player can join the team faster

taino - I think you have a good business idea. If there are movers who specifically ship musicians' B3's from gig to gig, why not one-stop-movers for athletes. I'm in!

I'm happy for JSmith. I remember him during his college days at U of M where he was a star player in the ACC. Tho' he has had a well-travelled career since turning pro, he always seemed to be a solid player and hopefully, will make at least a small contribution as a reserve player to the Ls quest to 3-peat.

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@63FTR,MarkG, and LRob: Thanks for the musical contributions. Winwood has always been a fav of mine. That 'Traffic' track is my all-time fav by the group.

~

For the next to last entry in the 'across the pond' series, Imma stick with the 'ol' skool' theme with a 'blast from the past' by one of my all-time favorite groups.(via U.K) Enjoy!


Loose Ends - Hangin' On A String - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S00JkAwSlCg

Loose Ends - Slow Down - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Fb7GOynFI&NR=1

Loose Ends - Stay A Little While Child - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtBMwm9lXE&NR=1

Loose Ends - You Can't Stop The Rain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeEeAB2VKQQ&feature=related

Loose Ends - Watching You - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DIsFN-I-Qc&feature=related

Loose Ends - Mr Bachelor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifv-n_p5C6o&feature=related

Loose Ends - Don't You Ever (Try To Change Me) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlc3OOAaXiY

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

So what the Pistons beat the Lakers for a championship, they hustled and played great defense. good job. But did they follow it up or fall apart? It must be hard to four-peat.
Don't forget the Lakers played in 3 prior finals, add up all the extra games and its almost an extra season. The Lakers were tired, and injured. And the Pistons were great. That was a win for team vs. individual talents.
But So what, why do Pistons fans get arrogant? True excellence is in staying power, and excellence year after year after year.

Hi fellas,

I think Joe Smith will be a solid veteran bench player for the Lakers. He's an upgrade for Character on the basketball IQ side.

How do you guys feel about Yao? Injury bug stinks! He's a free-agent after this season. I think the Rockets will probably let him go or trade him just like what happened to TMac. Team loyalty is a bitch but NBA is a business. With all the injuries, I see him playing 10-15 mins. Do you think the Lakers have a chance to get him as a 3rd string Center? He'll be perfect in the triangle assuming the Lakers will still run the same offense next season.

Business wise it's a double-edge sword for the Laker franchise. The Chinese/Chinese American and community is pretty big in Los Angeles. There are a lot of thriving Chinese companies in LA. Laker franchise will probably get more Chinese sponsors. Otherwise, Lakers will pay for Yao's injuries should it happen.

Thanks!

"I have NEVER said that. I just don't give the same reasons as others. I don't put as much weight on the regular season as others and, after last season, it surprises me that any Lakers fan puts so much importance on it. Seriously. You would think that everyone knew the team better by now. The 1968 Celtics won only 48 games, but they knew what it took and the 1995 Rockets did it with 47 wins. They won the previous year and knew what it took.

I believe that if we are HEALTHY, only the Lakers can beat the Lakers. If Bynum is 100%, I believe we can be dominant in the playoffs. We still have the same advantage at the 4-5 position over every team in the NBA, we still have Kobe Bryant and we're deeper. If we are not healthy, of course anything can happen. And to think we won it last year all banged up.

Please don't make that assumption about me. Before it became evident in the 2007-08 season that something special might be happening, I was Mitch Kupchak's biggest critic and I thought that Phil Jackson's coaching career might have run its course. But now that we are where we are and all the pieces are back in place and then some, what the heck is there to be skeptical about?

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 08:41 PM "

Well in the last few weeks when people have questioned Fisher's ability to still take on most of the minutes, Pau's fatigue, the Lakers chemistry, etc., you usually respond that they're ungrateful, pessimistic, etc and that everything will be fine in June and that people shouldn't be worried about the practice season. Again, by your logic, the Lakers should have won in 2003 and 2004. Being better on paper and having championship experience isn't a foolproof recipe for winning.

I'm not judging the Lakers by what they are now vs last year. I'm judging them by their current competition. Until I see them play some teams they might face in the playoffs, I don't know what to expect.

Good Lord all of this bickering is tiresome. We all have our opinions and its fun to form and trade arguments with each other, but let's stop with the personal attacks already. I don't think any of you are inherently bad people so someone please try to extend an olive branch and give each other the benefit of the doubt. For all of our sakes! This is painful to read!
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MVP, I read most of your posts and think you have a high BB IQ. I tend to agree with you and Laker Tom on most points regarding players and other BB related topics. I've also had good intelligent debates with the Hobbit/Blitz camp and always appreciate the amount of effort they put into crunching stats.
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Now on to basketball. I think we all know the Joe/Sasha trade was all about the money, but it sure would be nice if he could get some minutes and fill the role we had in mind for Theo. I don't see why not? Also getting two 2nd round picks for our 1st rounder is a good deal. We can test the waters with nearly equivalent talent but don't have to sign them if it doesn't work out. All in all Mitch gets an A. The only drawback I see is if we get cursed with a long term injury to one of our guards. Even then we have some versatile bigs so I'm not too worried about it.
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Hopefully I helped some poor insomniac fall asleep with the Hogan mini novel!
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Night Night All

Although this won't rank as a "great trade", it's another positive Laker trade by Big Mitch. Mitch has become a worthy successor to former GM Jerry West. Smith is a legit "big", something the Lakers needed, a good guy, a healthy guy, and an inexpensive commodity. Just imagine, the Lakers were able to rid themselves of an expensive & unnecessary small (Sasha, the 5th guard in a 4 guard rotation earning $5 million plus) for much needed inexpensive (less than $1.5 mill) front court depth for use against a team like the Celtics w/ both O'Neals, Perkins, & K. G., & Big Baby. Yes the trade makes the Lakers an older team (6 of our 14 players are now 30 or older), but than again this is a team built to win now and our window is closing w/our current core.

However as we all know, the Lakers are never out of it for long and the Lakers remain the top free agent destination. Just imagine, for instance, in 4 years a Laker team built around the likes of Andrew Bynum, Blake Griffin, & Deron Williams.

Taka, It looks like Yao's basketball career could be over, not even avail for 10-15 minutes on the court bra.

>>>Detroit better than the Lakers? Ha! Anyone recall Karl Malone limping
>>>around the court on only one leg?

And that's the Doc Rivers excuse. If your thinking leans that way, then Doc would have you believe that the Celtics just completed a 3-peat.

I have to agree with KobeMVP888 on this one. Detroit was the better team at the point of the finals, and in the end, that's what really matters. Injuries are part of the game, and Detroit was the legitimate champion.

If you want to play the "what if" game, then yes, I believe that if Karl Malone hadn't gotten injured, the Lakers would have won the championship in 2004. Malone had just come off OWNING Yao, Duncan, and Garnett in 3 consecutive series. The Lakers actually had to play LUKE at PF several times in that finals series. Detroit did a good job of swarming Shaq, and they challenged Kobe's shots as well, and nobody else really stepped up offensively. Ben Wallace actually out-rebounded Shaq in 3 of the 5 games. Throw in a 3rd offensive threat in Malone as well as Malone's rebounding and it's an entirely different story.

But that didn't happen. So the Lakers were NOT the best team in 2004. The Pistons were.

>>>Although this won't rank as a "great trade",

If you're the guy who's saving 9 million dollars, I'm sure you believe this is a great trade. :-)

the lakers dont owe fisher anything he gets paid well.
if i performed for my employer the way fisher my employer
would fire me or send me to training or a refreshment course.

better yet the team owe the fans a better product than fish.
sure he has played decent in the past,very few points,cant
guard anybody.he want get any better.what has fish done
lately.bench him now or cut his minute to 5 or less minute
per game so he can make a winning shot since no one guards
him.

Joe Smith = Worthless Piece of Garbage. Mitch the Snake Kupchak is out of his mind to think Smith can actually contribute. If this trade was a salary dump for Sasha's contract that Mitch himself rewarded, just say so, don't need to make an excuse saying the Lakers need a big. Smith is measured at 6' 8", not 6' 9", he's no bigger than Derrick Caracter. And what has Joe Smith ever done? Nothing, Zip, Nada.

Best team does not automatically translate into championship and vice versa.
Winning a championship is an occurrence of a specific set of events, subject to probability. Being the best team is a different concept from winning the championship. Having the best team gives you the best probability of winning the championship but does not guarantee it.


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