Why has the triangle not been functioning at optimum output lately? Are the Lakers having problems with priority in regards to whether the ball should be controlled by the inside or outside players?
you asked: Why has the triangle not been functioning at optimum output lately? Are the Lakers having problems with priority in regards to whether the ball should be controlled by the inside or outside players?
my response: Gasol got worn down from having to play too many minutes at
center. At least this is the agreed upon reason by the Lakers & media pundits.
my favorite part of the article:
"You know, I've said this all along: Age doesn't matter, it's how physically fit he is," says Gentry. "As long as he's as fit as he is, why is age even a factor? He takes care of himself, he takes care of his body, he eats right, and he always prepares physically and conditioning-wise for the start of the season. That's more important than the age factor."
The Triangle is like a lot of offenses in the NBA (think teams with solid big men) that works best when you play inside-out. Get the ball in the post, be it low or high, then work the perimeter for open shots or angles to drive the lane. Other offenses that don't feature dominant post players utilize isolation plays like pick-and-roll sets or clear outs for one-on-one perimeter players.
Andrew Bynum's return should help with ball movement and getting good looks for perimeter shooters. I just checked the stats and was surprised to see the Lakers shooting nearly 39 percent from three-point range. Opponents are shooting just over 33 percent. I would have thought it the other way around. Bynum's return, which will help keep Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom energized, should help in optimum Triangle play.
Lakerholics, I'll see you next week. Just backread the live chat with Brez. Looks like another good one. Good questions, good answers and insight. Excellent.
It's off to the Blazers-Wolves game with my sons and a college buddy tonight and a weekend of family visits, etc. Play nice. That doesn't mean you can't disagree or debate, just try to do it in a civil manner.
Posted by: Jon K. | December 17, 2010 at 02:55 PM "
Wow. Weird article. Of all of the reasons to hate Miami, he chooses their apathetic fanbase as his target? If they don't follow their own teams, I doubt they'll follow his reasoning.
Very sorry to see Shasha go! Only Kobe is better guard, skill-set wise on Lakers. Honest realization is that Lakers will get nothing from 35-year old Joe Smith. Remember MK bringing in Payton/Malone "to help win a championship"...How did that turn out...LOL!!! I wouldn't have traded SV for Joe Smith and THEIR 2011 1st-Round Draft pick. Ultimately, a poor Laker decision. Save a few million...Give me a break! I place most of the blame on Andrew Bynum for taking his sweet time on having his surgery...creating the temporary front-court necessity.
Tonight will be a good test for the Lakers back court defense and rotations. Jrue Holiday is a quick PG and Jodie Meeks is the kind of guy that can make 10 3's if he's left open.
@ utz – True dat…injuries is the only thing that can derail the Laker express.
@Peace – I’m with you. I think the Spurs have matchup problems with the Lakers.
@MVP - Yep, Spurs is the only one with the Championship know how. Good point about never facing the Mavs. I’m with you on the Mavs should be concerned about an aging JKidd in the playoffs. They count on him a lot. Last year he was very good in the regular season…but was subpar in the playoffs vs. the Spurs. Beaubois could be the key to the Mavs playoff potential.
@Rocky – Yep I think Spurs are better than Heat also “right now”. RJ is playing like RJ of old and shooting that 3pt better than he ever has…which is prefect for SA offense which generates a lot of corner 3’s.
@63 Footer – Actually as much as I love beating Cuban, I get even greater satisfaction out of watching Pop in his press conferences after losing to the Lakers.
@Mark G – lol on Little Walter. You’re probably right on the RRHOF being a mixed bag. It so many very good artists and everyone has different likes and criteria for judging…that selection committee has it work cut out for them. It’s not like sports where most of us can agree on who’s worthy and who’s not.
@corner J – I’m with you that the Mavs could present the toughest comp in the west. Chandler is a good upgrade, plus Beaubois could be a wildcard.
Dang Lakers east coast games make me start drinking early.
Anyways, here's to Fisher and hoping he can sink more than just one clutch shot in this game. Cmon Fisher! Keep your guard true and relieve some pressure off of Kobe and Pau.
@Justa – nice seeing you dipped your toes back in the water.
@hobbit - nice article on the state of the Suns. I had a little debate with someone here about Amare. They felt his numbers would be down without Nash and I disagreed. (was that you Cyber?) Anyway the season is still early, but Amare is looking good. Nash is an amazing athlete. He continues to play at an all-star level.
@LRob
I was in that camp who thought Amare would be much less effective without Nash setting him up. I am glad that the Knicks are back on track- they haven't been relevant since the mid 90s. If they can get Melo, they will have plenty of offensive firepower.
The Mavs do have a great record early, but does anyone think they have a chance against is in a series? I don't. Right now, I think the Spurs might take two games from us, but more than likely they will be hobbled come April.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/545930-kobe-bryant-under-the-phog-part-2-continuation-of-lebron-jamesa-burning-love
WTH???
Posted by: hobbitmage | December 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM
That was a strange article hobbitmage, kinda sci-fi like.
Written by a Heat follower maybe, who knows.
Imaginative? Maybe so.
Not my cuppa tea though.
Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | December 17, 2010 at 01:43 PM
Why has the triangle not been functioning at optimum output lately? Are the Lakers having problems with priority in regards to whether the ball should be controlled by the inside or outside players?
Posted by: Russell Fox | December 17, 2010 at 01:44 PM
Russell Fox,
you asked: Why has the triangle not been functioning at optimum output lately? Are the Lakers having problems with priority in regards to whether the ball should be controlled by the inside or outside players?
my response: Gasol got worn down from having to play too many minutes at
center. At least this is the agreed upon reason by the Lakers & media pundits.
Posted by: hobbitmage | December 17, 2010 at 01:50 PM
On an other wise quite day ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101216/bs_nm/us_usa_economy_special
Posted by: hobbitmage | December 17, 2010 at 01:51 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18222
my favorite part of the article:
"You know, I've said this all along: Age doesn't matter, it's how physically fit he is," says Gentry. "As long as he's as fit as he is, why is age even a factor? He takes care of himself, he takes care of his body, he eats right, and he always prepares physically and conditioning-wise for the start of the season. That's more important than the age factor."
Posted by: hobbitmage | December 17, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Hey Russell,
The Triangle is like a lot of offenses in the NBA (think teams with solid big men) that works best when you play inside-out. Get the ball in the post, be it low or high, then work the perimeter for open shots or angles to drive the lane. Other offenses that don't feature dominant post players utilize isolation plays like pick-and-roll sets or clear outs for one-on-one perimeter players.
Andrew Bynum's return should help with ball movement and getting good looks for perimeter shooters. I just checked the stats and was surprised to see the Lakers shooting nearly 39 percent from three-point range. Opponents are shooting just over 33 percent. I would have thought it the other way around. Bynum's return, which will help keep Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom energized, should help in optimum Triangle play.
Lakerholics, I'll see you next week. Just backread the live chat with Brez. Looks like another good one. Good questions, good answers and insight. Excellent.
It's off to the Blazers-Wolves game with my sons and a college buddy tonight and a weekend of family visits, etc. Play nice. That doesn't mean you can't disagree or debate, just try to do it in a civil manner.
Happy holidays, and I'll catch you next week.
Posted by: Dan Loumena | December 17, 2010 at 02:08 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/545910-the-expendables
Posted by: hobbitmage | December 17, 2010 at 02:34 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052748703395204576023421936956878-lMyQjAxMTAwMDEwNjExNDYyWj.html
Yeah. It's true. Miami sucks.
One more reason why we should do nothing to stop global warming. Once Florida is underwater humanity will be much better off.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | December 17, 2010 at 02:55 PM
let's go Lakers-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKe45x654E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfnuICiTlTA
enjoy the game & have a great weekend-
Posted by: ms | December 17, 2010 at 03:09 PM
"http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052748703395204576023421936956878-lMyQjAxMTAwMDEwNjExNDYyWj.html
Yeah. It's true. Miami sucks.
One more reason why we should do nothing to stop global warming. Once Florida is underwater humanity will be much better off.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | December 17, 2010 at 02:55 PM "
Wow. Weird article. Of all of the reasons to hate Miami, he chooses their apathetic fanbase as his target? If they don't follow their own teams, I doubt they'll follow his reasoning.
Posted by: Bay to LA | December 17, 2010 at 03:11 PM
Very sorry to see Shasha go! Only Kobe is better guard, skill-set wise on Lakers. Honest realization is that Lakers will get nothing from 35-year old Joe Smith. Remember MK bringing in Payton/Malone "to help win a championship"...How did that turn out...LOL!!! I wouldn't have traded SV for Joe Smith and THEIR 2011 1st-Round Draft pick. Ultimately, a poor Laker decision. Save a few million...Give me a break! I place most of the blame on Andrew Bynum for taking his sweet time on having his surgery...creating the temporary front-court necessity.
Posted by: Mark Moore | December 17, 2010 at 03:16 PM
In memory of the Captain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSPf5Viwd0
Posted by: 63 Footer | December 17, 2010 at 03:40 PM
Tonight will be a good test for the Lakers back court defense and rotations. Jrue Holiday is a quick PG and Jodie Meeks is the kind of guy that can make 10 3's if he's left open.
Posted by: Bay to LA | December 17, 2010 at 03:41 PM
A little blog catch up.....
@ utz – True dat…injuries is the only thing that can derail the Laker express.
@Peace – I’m with you. I think the Spurs have matchup problems with the Lakers.
@MVP - Yep, Spurs is the only one with the Championship know how. Good point about never facing the Mavs. I’m with you on the Mavs should be concerned about an aging JKidd in the playoffs. They count on him a lot. Last year he was very good in the regular season…but was subpar in the playoffs vs. the Spurs. Beaubois could be the key to the Mavs playoff potential.
@Rocky – Yep I think Spurs are better than Heat also “right now”. RJ is playing like RJ of old and shooting that 3pt better than he ever has…which is prefect for SA offense which generates a lot of corner 3’s.
@63 Footer – Actually as much as I love beating Cuban, I get even greater satisfaction out of watching Pop in his press conferences after losing to the Lakers.
@Mark G – lol on Little Walter. You’re probably right on the RRHOF being a mixed bag. It so many very good artists and everyone has different likes and criteria for judging…that selection committee has it work cut out for them. It’s not like sports where most of us can agree on who’s worthy and who’s not.
@corner J – I’m with you that the Mavs could present the toughest comp in the west. Chandler is a good upgrade, plus Beaubois could be a wildcard.
Posted by: LRob | December 17, 2010 at 03:41 PM
Dan Loumena, thanks for the nice note.
It's a shame you're a Blazers fan. You could have turned out alright.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | December 17, 2010 at 03:42 PM
Dang Lakers east coast games make me start drinking early.
Anyways, here's to Fisher and hoping he can sink more than just one clutch shot in this game. Cmon Fisher! Keep your guard true and relieve some pressure off of Kobe and Pau.
Posted by: Magia32 | December 17, 2010 at 03:48 PM
Magia - yeah! Drink early and often!
More Captain, rest his madcap ever-weird soul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAoPhVn4y1Q&feature=related
Posted by: 63 Footer | December 17, 2010 at 03:53 PM
@mclyne – nice pick on Rush. They’re def HOF worthy imho.
@Justa – nice seeing you dipped your toes back in the water.
@hobbit - nice article on the state of the Suns. I had a little debate with someone here about Amare. They felt his numbers would be down without Nash and I disagreed. (was that you Cyber?) Anyway the season is still early, but Amare is looking good. Nash is an amazing athlete. He continues to play at an all-star level.
Posted by: LRob | December 17, 2010 at 03:55 PM
@LRob
I was in that camp who thought Amare would be much less effective without Nash setting him up. I am glad that the Knicks are back on track- they haven't been relevant since the mid 90s. If they can get Melo, they will have plenty of offensive firepower.
@63
EXCELLENT "Cpt Beefheart"
I will never get sick of this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad2EPO_y0ps&feature=related
The Mavs do have a great record early, but does anyone think they have a chance against is in a series? I don't. Right now, I think the Spurs might take two games from us, but more than likely they will be hobbled come April.
Posted by: mclyne | December 17, 2010 at 04:03 PM