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Lakers have recent history with Miami on Christmas Day

21136449However the Lakers want to slice it, they're finding ways to downplay this whole Christmas Day game you may have heard about against the Heat.

They're appealing to history.

"It's hard to make it a rivalry right now," Lakers forward Ron Artest said. "It's like an instant one, but the only way it can be a rivalry is if we go to the championship against each other. The Boston Celtics? That's a rivalry."

They're saying it's only one matchup in an 82-game season.

"It’s a big game in terms of excitement and anticipation and the marquee matchup in terms of the star power," Lakers guard Derek Fisher said. "That’s what makes it a big game. I don’t know if it’s about using it as a measuring stick. It may be different in their locker room, but in my opinion, for us, no."

And they're pointing to the potential distractions Christmas Day brings as another reason not to read too much into the game.

"You have kids putting batteries in toys and putting their Christmas toys together," said Lakers Coach Phil Jackson, who has coached in 17 Christmas Day games, including 10 with the Lakers. "There was all kinds of crazy stuff going on and now you have to focus on a game in the middle of the afternoon on Christmas Day. It's real hard to measure how to bring focus to it."

Still, the Lakers, which have played 36 Christmas games in the organization's history and trail only the New York Knicks (45) for most games played on the holiday, have to play the game whether they feel it's important or not. I argued earlier this morning that the real importance of the matchup between the Lakers (21-8) and Heat (21-9)  is that the game marks the beginning of the tougher portion of the Lakers' schedule. Whether the Lakers show the right mindset won't be answered until Saturday. Their recent Christmas Day history with Miami, however, isn't pleasant. Surely those were different times, what with the Lakers either missing the postseason or failing to escape the first round, but perhaps these games detailed below the jump will provide some sort of incentive for them.

Dec. 25, 2004, Lakers' 104-102 overtime loss

The attention was on the first meeting between Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal since his trade to the Heat, and the Staples Center crowd greeted O'Neal with a standing ovation.

But in the end, it came down to a game-winning shot that didn't go in. Bryant scored 42 points, but he shot 12 of 30, committed nine turnovers and missed his last five shots. That included a three-point attempt over Dwyane Wade at the buzzer in overtime. The shot hit the left side of the rim and bounced away, giving the Heat its 11th consecutive victory.

"I had a pretty good look," Bryant told reporters. His 305 points on Christmas is among the league's active scoring leaders and his 12 Christmas appearances ties O'Neal and trails only the 13 games Dolph Schayes and Earl Monroe played on Christmas. "But I didn't get the balance I would have liked on the shot."

"I knew that it wasn't going to go in," O'Neal told reporters after posting 24 points and 11 rebounds before fouling out in the fourth quarter. "It's called Shaq O'Neal fate."

O'Neal's absence didn't matter. Wade had 29 points, but faded in the fourth quarter. He missed two chances in the last minute to break a 94-94 tie, including an 18-footer with 23 seconds left and a  20-footer at the buzzer. Nonetheless, Wade had four points in overtime.

Dec. 25, 2005, Lakers' 97-92 loss

It was presumed to be another showdown between Bryant and O'Neal, this time played in Miami. The two avoided each other before tipoff and O'Neal did not attend the captains' meeting.

But another rivalry also formed.

This one featured the Heat's Gary Payton, a former Laker, and Lamar Odom, a former Heat player, nearly coming to blows. They jawed at each other during the second half, including an incident in which  Odom nearly confronted Payton at halfcourt only to be pulled away.

"He's an extremely disrespectful young man," Odom told reporters, including The Times' Mike Bresnahan. "I'm not going to repeat anything he said, but it's extremely disrespectful. It's dudes like that, that's why things happen off the court between players and their friends and things like that. He needs to watch how he talks to other men. There's a difference between competing and how you talk to another man."

Payton's take appeared much different; he told reporters they were just "having fun on the court" with "everybody jabbing and jabbing." Payton had the last word, after scoring 21 points, hitting nine of 11 shots and making a key three-pointer that gave Miami a 94-92 lead. Meanwhile, the Lakers folded in critical stretches. Odom's three-point attempt on the right side fell short with 41.9 seconds left, while Bryant's shot from deep three-point range barely hit the rim with 2.9 seconds remaining.

"We played poorly and still found ourselves in the ballgame," Bryant told reporters afterward, referring to the team's 38.8% shooting clip and three-of-21 mark from three-point range. "We had the opportunity to make a three-point basket and put the dagger in them and it just didn't quite go in."

December 25, 2006, Lakers' 101-85 loss

Bresnahan summed up the Lakers' loss, again in Miami, this way: "And on the 12th day of Christmas, the Lakers received the same thing they got last year, and the year before that, a gift they'd just as soon return if they could ever beat the Miami Heat on Dec. 25."

There weren't many reasons for the Lakers to share any holiday cheer. They trailed by as many as 19 points, shot only 21.7% from three-point range and had Bryant making only four of 17 shots for 16 points. Meanwhile, Wade torched the Lakers with 40 points, many of them coming off beating Bryant on high screen-and-rolls.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Kobe Bryant scrambles for the ball as Miami's Shaquille O'Neal applies pressure during the third quarter on Christmas Day in 2005. Credit: Steve Mitchell / Associated Press

 
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Perhaps Jeanne is suffering a little bit of naivete when it comes to her fan base.
As for the trade proposals, geepers already, fans of every sports team talk about trades every season and off season. Even trades that don't have a prayer of happening. It's one of those things sports fans do. It's just not that big of a deal.
People like to play armchair quarterback and GM.
It's just part of the fun of being a sports fan.

Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | December 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM
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Art

Read her book. She dwarfs all of us when it comes to insight about the Lakers and their fan base. It's what she does for a living and she's quite brilliant, I promise you. She is not the least bit naive. Perhaps I didn't communicate what she wrote very well.

Merry Christmas everyone
Troll Man
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Mr. Opposite
There are 4 Lights
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Posted by: Troll Man | December 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Why did you spoil Christmas? :-)

i feel that every game is important but they might be important for different reasons. for example the game with the bucks was important to get the win totals up. the game with the meat is important for the win, but also for psychological reasons with them and and to make a statement to the rest of the league that we are back or getting there.but EVERY game is important for one reason or another.

Posted by: KobeMVP888


>>>

Since you've come to this blog what about a year ago? I have never read someone so snobbish and self-righteous as you. And that's saying alot.
You gloat about who you know and what you've done and expect everyone to worship the words you type.
God it must be lonely at the top.

didn't go thru here it is

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Justa

Are you KIDDING me! You don't only insult me by lumping me in with him, you insult yourself and all Lakers fans. Nope. Until he reveals himself, he will be met with my rebuttals to his constant negative attacks.

P.S.- I don't agree to disagree on anything. I either agree or I disagree.

@no mo’ – Freddie Mercury stole the show as usual. Great song.
Posted by: LRob | December 23, 2010 at 09:16 AM

Was he the Grinch?

Art

Read her book. She dwarfs all of us when it comes to insight about the Lakers and their fan base. It's what she does for a living and she's quite brilliant, I promise you. She is not the least bit naive. Perhaps I didn't communicate what she wrote very well.
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM
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Perhaps she is brilliant in some areas, I can't say either way.
However, you said she doesn't understand why some fans get down on the team and some want to trade certain players.

From your comments it appears she does not understand that there will always be fans who will doubt the team and there will always be fans who want to play GM and talk about trading possibilities.

As I said before, it is one of the things that sports fans do for every team, it's just part of the fun.
So if this bothers her, perhaps the light from her brilliance is blinding her to some basic attributes of sports fans.

There weren't many reasons for the Lakers to share any holiday cheer. They trailed by as many as 19 points, shot only 21.7% from three-point range and had Bryant making only four of 17 shots for 16 points. Meanwhile, Wade torched the Lakers with 40 points, many of them coming off beating Bryant on high screen-and-rolls.

-- Mark Medina
It's the same old story Kobe shots 30 times, Kobe gets 30 points and another LOST. Lakerholics start blogging now, this team is PATHETIC, no HEART, NO GUTS they didn't show up. I can hear you now, SAME OLD STORY...AGAIN.

Heat beat down WORLD CHAMPS by 20, OOOH that's HORRRRIBLE.

GO HEAT

Since you've come to this blog what about a year ago? I have never read someone so snobbish and self-righteous as you. And that's saying alot.
You gloat about who you know and what you've done and expect everyone to worship the words you type.
God it must be lonely at the top.

Posted by: Who the FRU | December 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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You can disagree without being disagreeable. I've been trying to take that approach with hobbit recently, but have not been met with a like kind exchange. Instead, he called my views "arrogant." Obviously you agree with him. And please don't make misleading, inaccurate statements like: "expect everyone to worship the words you type." Who FRU to make a comment like that?

Otherwise, you either agree or disagree. I don't know what "agree to disagree" means other than it's suppose to put an end to a debate. Pardon me if I don't find any use for that expression. Sorry you think that's snobbish, whoever the FUR.

keen observer - Hey let's try to keep it civil. This is just a warning

The team is setting itself up for an excuse when they lose. Fact is that we are playing poorly now.

MM,

Still no Lakers Xmas gift list post from me showing up.
I have tried several times in the last hour or two, yet my other posts show up.
Bummer for that as I put a fair amount of time into it.

I guess I've been told.

2010-2011 is shaping up to be the most challenging NBA elite teams vying to contend for Championship and remarkably both in the Eeast and West. Thanks a lot to a healthy season for all SIX ELITE TEAMS, hopefully it stays like it till MAY AND JUNE, so we can all sit back, experience and enjoy the best of the best.

Western Conference
1 Lakers, already the defending champs still have improved mightyly from last season.

2 Spurs, the other defending champs of the last decade are back with the same big three of thier own all healthy and have injected youth in their role players.

3 Mavs, for the first time since 2006 when they visited the NBA finals, are veteran team and for the first time they have a tag team of all-star Centers, all-star forwards and a veteran guards.


East

1 Celtics, like the Lakers if KG was never injured in 2009 playoffs, 2011 could have been their 4th straight trip to the NBA Finals.

2 Magic, much better team the one Lakers beat in the 2009 Finals. Lewis undersized PF is gone replaced by a real PF in Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee and Rafer Alston the starting guards have been replaced by scoring combo of Jason Richardson and Gilbert Arenas. Dwight Howard have improved, Turk is back, Jameer is healthy.

3 Heat, is like the new C's in terms of big three they have put together. We'll see.


Then there are young talented teams on the rise in BULLS AND THUNDER.


Troll Man
aka.....
You Ever Notice
Sister Mary Elephant
Mr. Opposite
There are 4 Lights
By Grabthar's hammer
Nostradamus
bet you didn't see that coming
TM :)
Posted by: Troll Man | December 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Sounds like the seven faces of SIBEL.....Just Saying


Cavs 102 Lakers 97. That's last year Xmas game. Remember that game people? Lakers stunk up the joint and being booed by their own fans?

It's going to get WORSE this year. Let us be prepared to see our Lakers being humiliated by 30+ pts against the Heat.

Why not? the whole organization from the coach down is already preparing to LOSE.

Whining about having to play on Xmas day... about having to work instead of stay home and having fun...

Just one of 82 games. No big deal!

NOT a statement game. No reason to just mail it in...

The mindset and mentality is ridiculously TOXIC.

What kind of message a coach is sending to his player that it's NOT important to WIN?

wow! it's getting ugly in here...

This is more of a statement win for the Heat than the Lakers, and last year CLE made a big statement win and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. I really don't feel that the Lakers are downplaying anything. This team has a ton of veterans, and just has everything in the proper context of 82 games. Still, if the Lakers do get inspired during the game, then I truly could see them winning by double-digits.

Psycorp- You are on point, their crying like little GIRLS, and the games not till Sat. The WORLD CHAMPS, grow some STONES and bring it or donate that days pay to Ron Ron Mental Health program. If you got to Play, Why not WIN.

The Cavs made and statement win and lost to the Celtics in the 2nd round, not the Lakers.
The team reminds me of the CAV team of 2 years ago. They won a ton of games, but lost nearly all 'statement' games and got bounced in the 2nd round of the play-offs.

Sure the Lakers can stink it up then win the last 20 games of the season then go 16-0 for their third championship... yeah that's a mathematical probability alright.

OTH, the probability of them keep playing poorly and falling into BAD HABBITS plus championship-fatigue, lack of motivation, lack of fight... is bigger.

The Lakers are not even the top two teams in the Western Conference AND they have not played ANY halfway decent team so far. That's right they played two decent teams: Denver and Utah and got thumped.

So what's the probability that the Lakers are EXACTLY as good as their record indicate? as supposed to numbers lie and they really are the best in spite of their pathetic record...

CANNOT compare the Cavs to the Lakers. The Cavs were a purely one-dimensional team (LBJ) and that's why they could not go far in the PO. Didn't matter that they won the Statement Game against a half-hearted, lazy, unmotivated team like the Lakers.

The Cavs did not win last year's statement game. The Lakers lost it. There is a reason why their own fans booed them in their own building.

Psycorp-Great INSIGHT.

Psycorp,

Don't worry mang, Saturday when/if the Lakers win
It'll turn into a statement game.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 23, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Who FRU to make a comment like that?

*******

Someone who can see you are a snob
Someone who can see you are self-righteous
Someone who can see you make mountains out of molehills
Someone who can see that you can't take criticism whether constructive, civil, or uncivil.
Someone who can see that you like to push people 's buttons
Someone who can see you like to bully people
Someone who can see you're losing your credibility here
Someone who can see you losing your blog friends, not that you care
Someone who can see you have blinders on
and
SOMEONE WHO CAN SEE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL


yes, it's a great start to the season and the race is on. the team is on the outside but well within striking distance to make a pass as they head down the home stretch. but as i mentioned in a previous post: let’s not rush it because i'm in no hurry to get older!

there's plenty of time to figure out this team and that will begin after the ASG. it's the second half of the season and that's usually the time when the season really begins to heat up and players begin to go down.

we got our injuries early and we are now beginning to heal. we have new players on the team that are still finding their "fit" within the system. we have a surprise in the much improved scoring of shannon brown and the coaching staff will continue to point out the flaws in his game so that he can improve his play even further.

lamar is another pleasant surprise after playing in fiba over the summer. i would have thought the roles would be reversed between he and pau because you would think pau was the athlete playing all summer long.

do the lakers have the tools to beat down miami? you bet but truth be told, miami is younger and hungry for this win because in their eyes, they have more to prove to themselves and others that they can beat the lakers but so does every other team that plays against us. that just goes with the territory of being the reigning two time world champions.

if the team can come in motivated, cool, calm and collective during their offensive sequences - work the triangle and refrain from long range shooting so early in the shot clock - then they will feel confident to begin focusing on their defense against miami. the game is played at both ends of the floor but we all know it's about the coveted "D" that wins it all.

i'm expecting a loss on x-mas but hey, i was also expecting a win against the short-handed bucks the other night, so what do i know? well, i do know this: the team has caused a lot of frustration for the coaching staff, ownership and fans recently as well as the past several years but we also had parades the past two years; next year will not be different. how's that for a dose of realistic OPTIMISM?

JAMF

I would appreciate it if you would stop insulting yourself and all Laker fans

TM :)

"Oh, dearie, dear. Look what the cat dragged in."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS11D5JKwM

3 guesses on who is Who RU...

Hint: It is not Townsend and the Who...lol

What IS UP Lakernation!


Well, the Christmas game whether the Lakers, Heat or both teams say it's not a big deal...IS a heck of a big deal. Call it just one of 82 games in the season is an understatement. The truth is, both of these teams....ESPECIALLY THE LAKERS have this game not only circled on their calendar, but have been hungry for this game to come. Why?


Well, lets see....one, when the Lakers won the Championship, lets not forget the attention the Heat stole fromt the Lakers with the summer signings of Wade, LeBron and Bosh. Two, the Heat built this team to become Champions instantaneously. Don't think that's going to light a fire under the Lakers &%@, well think again. It will.


Lets forget about the Loss to Milwaukee, and lets face the music here...the Lakers minds were on the Christmas game...it's only human, and from the top player to the Luke Walton (LOL Justa), that's who they are...human. But the Lakers will win this game on Christmas day.


Let's not forget the day Derek Fisher hosted the Jim Rome show over the summer. His words were to the likings of "We'll see you on Christmas day".


The Lakers are waiting, and so am I.


Happy Holidays everyone!

KobeMVP888,

you wrote: You can disagree without being disagreeable. I've been trying to take that approach with hobbit recently, but have not been met with a like kind exchange. Instead, he called my views "arrogant."

my response: excuse me?

Let's be clear about something:

ar·ro·gant (r-gnt)
adj.
1. Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
2. Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others:

With that definition in mind ... do your comments imply that the Lakers
are superior, some might even say FAR superior, to every other team in
the NBA?

Have you not referred to the regular season as a "practice" season?

Whenever a comment was made that was not glowingly positive about some
of our players or how our team was not playing well ... did you not respond
in an ... "authoritative" tone ?

[ note: regarding "authoritative" I was looking for a word which implied
emotion & activity without sounding negative ... it's the season of love and all
that. ]

The "Raz!" What's UP!!??? What a "breath" of fresh air! I'm convinced:

LAKERS BEAT THE HEAT!

Guess anyone coming to this blog looking for Christmas Spirit will be moving on and keep looking.

"Guess anyone coming to this blog looking for Christmas Spirit will be moving on and keep looking.

Posted by: Rick Friedman | December 23, 2010 at 02:08 PM "

LOL this should get post of the day

Another day, another blog skirmish. lol...

Spent the last hour watching Sportsnation's great 101 holiday jeers show and writing an article on Bleacher Report.

Blogsters, if ya could, check it out puhleeez:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/552131-kim-kardashian-needs-to-butt-out-of-kobe-bryants-business

Feedbacks and 'like's' always appreciated (the checks will be express mailed in time for Christmas!)! Who can refuse a smile like this: =)


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

"... if the team can come in motivated, cool, calm and collective during their offensive sequences - work the triangle and refrain from long range shooting so early in the shot clock - then they will feel confident to begin focusing on their defense against miami. the game is played at both ends of the floor but we all know it's about the coveted "D" that wins it all."

100% CORRECT. 100% agreed.

UNFORTUNATELY judging from comments by the coaching staff the team has not been doing the correct things such as the above in order to win.

The Lakers have been playing WRONG kind of team basketball and Phil has been harping about it. Team leader Kobe has been saying the same thing as well.

Has the team tuned out its coach? Has the team became so lazy, complacent, unmotivated... that it refuses to hustle and play the right way to win?

an interesting article:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/lee_jenkins/12/23/kobe.lebron/index.html

snippet:
At this time of year, the Lakers practice for only about 75 minutes per day and talk endlessly about maintaining perspective, pacing themselves, playing for June instead of January. Those are Jackson's mantras, not Bryant's. His competitive nature does not vary by month and he sees that the Lakers are losing more than they should. They have already dropped eight games, one fewer than the Heat, and that was in the easy part of their schedule. Ron Artest compared the Christmas showdown to "a great pound-for-pound fight," as if the Heat and the Lakers are no more than a couple of middleweights. The Lakers sit third in the Western Conference, only 1½ games out of fifth. With the way San Antonio and Dallas are churning at the top of the conference, it's not too early to say home-court advantage is in jeopardy.

Two years for Dwight Howard to contemplate playing for LA?


Two long years for visions of purple and gold championships to dance thru his head?


I have to think that if D Howard is already thinking about playing in Los Angeles, then the odds of him actually coming here are pretty good.


When have we heard rumors of players wanting to come to LA and have those rumors just be hogwash and wishful thinking? Not too often. LA usually gets what it wants, and I think a lot of Angelinos want D Howard on this team.


And I think if both parties really want to come together on this dream matchup, then we'll find a way to make it work salery-wise. I'm pretty sure Orlando will take Bynum in a sign and trade if they feel like Howard is determined to come to LA.


And this is not to say anything bad about Andrew Bynum, but when you have a shot at a guy like Howard--if you ever get that shot--you take it.


I would.


Wes

"Has the team tuned out its coach? Has the team became so lazy, complacent, unmotivated... that it refuses to hustle and play the right way to win?"


after reading "raz's" post, i do believe this team will be motivated to win the x-max game and if they don't, it will be proof positive that this team is still on the mend. kobe is healing. drew just returned. gasol is "gassed." we have new players in blake, barnes and now smith. the rooks get limited play and theo is still out, so in essence, it may not be a complaceny problem but rather a "capable" issue. JMO but sometimes, "fandom" does interfere with my objectivity.

Psycorp- Ask Kobe, he's the one allowing his man on "D" to have his way.
He also the one turning the ball over and don't get back on "D".
He's the one shooting the ball with bad efficiency percentage.
He's the one getting thrown out the game because he's getting PUNKED. I'm just Say.....BLAME KOBE, it's the right thing to do.

Dude...it's time for me to leave this blog, you Lakerholics are to NEGATIVE today. Just call in Christmas Day, and take to lost in BED laying on your FACE and with a towel in your MOUTH. You've already accepted DEFEAT.

GO HEAT

@keen observer – Count me as one of those that would love to read your profile on how you became a Laker fan and about some of your favorite moments. (PS…I’m not being sarcastic).

@Art – nice montage of Luke doing work. The one thing I noticed is he doesn’t have the same hops. I know he was never a leaper, but all the injuries have robbed him of the lift he did have. I would love to start playing with confidence again.

@DJ – congrats on the RCOTD….well said.

@Staples 24 – Nice summation of all the contenders. I would agree with everything except your breakdown of Orlando. I don’t see them as a threat as they’re currently constructed. However, I do anticipate them making another move or two.

@Radizzle – nice post. I agree that the Lakers are looking forward to playing the Heat. It has no bearing on who’ll ultimately win the chip (Miami is still without Haslem & Miller nowhere near game ready), but it’s always nice to beat other contenders. It could be a spring board to a nice winning streak.

"And I think if both parties really want to come together on this dream matchup, then we'll find a way to make it work salery-wise. I'm pretty sure Orlando will take Bynum in a sign and trade if they feel like Howard is determined to come to LA.


And this is not to say anything bad about Andrew Bynum, but when you have a shot at a guy like Howard--if you ever get that shot--you take it.


I would.


Wes

Posted by: wesjoenixon | December 23, 2010 at 02:33 PM "

I think it's still way too early to think about. These quotes are sometimes taken out of context and end up being misleading. There may be a lot of teams he'd be willing to go to.

Bynum's health is also tough to plan around. We don't know what he's going to look like in 2 years. We don't know what Dwight will look like in 2 years either.

Justa Hater,

No! Blame the team, because basketball last I checked...is a team sport. Not individual. From your last post about "Ask Kobe", I seem to think that you are expecting expertise from him. But like Charles Barkley famously says time and time again, "Only God is an expert". So to ridicule Kobe about all the negatives, how about coming back to reality and have a understanding that Kobe, Michael, LeBron...whomever you want to bring into the picture, isn't perfect.

@mclyne – Definite classic by the Tempts. I wished they put that version on that Motown Christmas album I mentioned…but it was released a few years later. That Adam Sandler Hanukkah song was hilarious. Thanks for posting it.

@Edwin – reaching back for Ray Conniff’s Christmas classic. Nice.

@frmkt – Cool Stones. Hopefully mom doesn’t need those little helpers…lol.

@63 Footer – Calling out the Red Eyed Trolls…you must be feeling better :-)

Bay to LA,

Agreed!

And lets not forget LeBron's constant talks of going to New York. You never know and many times, comments like this are taken out of context.

This Cheech and Chong Christmas classic is guaranteed to lighten the mood a little in here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbw9-uq9sMU

Yeah I know Santa Claus. He's with Motown, ain't he? Yeah, I played with that dude, too, man. He's a good singer, man. (haha)

"Bay to LA,

Agreed!

And lets not forget LeBron's constant talks of going to New York. You never know and many times, comments like this are taken out of context.

Posted by: RazdizzlefoShizzle | December 23, 2010 at 02:56 PM "

Exactly. There's a lot of dishonesty out there, especially with the he said / she said twitter journalism.

LRob - back atcha (though still a little down). Here's my favorite Xmas song though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaPXihbORk

Dude...it's time for me to leave this blog, you Lakerholics are to NEGATIVE today. Just call in Christmas Day, and take to lost in BED laying on your FACE and with a towel in your MOUTH. You've already accepted DEFEAT.
GO HEAT
Posted by: JUSTA HATER | December 23, 2010 at 02:43 PM
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This is the funniest post I have read in a while.

Someone who is a Miami Heat fan with the name HATER saying they need to leave the Lakers blog because the comments are too negative towards the Lakers.

I don't mean any offense to you Mr Hater, it just struck me as funny.

Raz and Bay,


Naaaa. I'll just keep on dreamin'.


I think Howard's quickness, his D and rebounding are things worth dreaming about.


Isn't visualization the first step toward achievement? I'm seeing D Howard in purple and gold for my fellow Laker fans, not just myself.


Speaking of dreaming, here's Bob, dreaming of you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH_WpdTmWI4


Wes

Wes,

I agree with you on Big D.

Dude...it's time for me to leave this blog, you Lakerholics are to NEGATIVE today. Just call in Christmas Day, and take to lost in BED laying on your FACE and with a towel in your MOUTH. You've already accepted DEFEAT.
GO HEAT
Posted by: JUSTA HATER | December 23, 2010 at 02

rcod.

As far as Kobe shooting too much or having a terrible year, well, he is 32. Oh, by the way, Kevin Durant and Kobe are shooting the same % from two and Kobe's better at three. It's a real shame that Durant, at 22, is nearing the end of his career already, you know, shooting so poorly. He has got to stop shooting, ha, ha! Trust his teammates, ha, ha.

Has this been posted yet? Band Aid, the original. I need to get my Bugle Boy pants out of storage!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5cX_ncZLls


Wes


One quick note, Kobe's shooting is off his career average by .006%.

hobbitmage

Nice post at 01:56 PM. Actually, the term "practice season" seems to bother: 1) fans who take EVERY game seriously as if it's personal and 2) bloggers who are contrary for the sake of being contrary. I disagree, without trying to be disagreeable, that there's anything arrogant about it at all if you understand the the context in which it's put.

Merry Christmas!

I've always wondered why non-Laker fans come to the Laker Blog? I've not been to a Celtics or Heat or Spurs Blog. Not sure why I would stray from my team? Perhaps the Laker Blog is the best and has the best participation. Arte there even Celtics and Heat and Spurs Blogs?

DJ - wonder about that constantly. Weird isn't it.

And that darn Durant! Over-the-hill already and shooting like crap. Sigh. How quickly they go....

wes - I thought I saw you in the b.g. there!

I, like others, get riled when the Lakers play so poorly. I'm like, sit Fisher and Artest down, PJ! But, I try to remember, even though I think I know more than PJ, kinda hard for me to forget that past Three Finals and Two Championships. Maybe, just maybe PJ does know more than me, ha, ha. But, when he fails to call TO's and isn't playing Shannon and Barnes and Blake more, I still keep thinking I know more than PJ does, ha, ha. Go Lakers!

Hey 63!

Good article Cyber, and great points about Kim. I will personally make sure that she removes any real fur clothing that she wears. No need to thank me btw.

The Cavs made and statement win and lost to the Celtics in the 2nd round, not the Lakers.
The team reminds me of the CAV team of 2 years ago. They won a ton of games, but lost nearly all 'statement' games and got bounced in the 2nd round of the play-offs.
Posted by: keen observer | December 23, 2010 at 01:13 PM
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Didn't the Lakers lose most of their "statement" games last season? Don't they remind you more of themselves than the Cavs of '08-'09? Wait. How many "statement" games have the Lakers played for you to make that statement at all?

every game the lakers play is a statement game for their opponents, that is. it sure isn't easy being No. 1 or else everyone would be, yes? This team is about getting into the playoffs, winning their series and bringing home another 'chip. i think they might be more concerned about winning those games that they're supposed to win as opposed to the contenders because there's more of the former to whip on as opposed to the latter. when they lose to "lesser" teams, those are lost opportunities that enable them to add to the Win column. the team is confident they will beat contenders in a series. jmo

Didn't the Lakers lose most of their "statement" games last season? Don't they remind you more of themselves than the Cavs of '08-'09? Wait. How many "statement" games have the Lakers played for you to make that statement at all?
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Other than Cleveland and Denver which other team did we lose the Season series to?
We have played against Denver and Utah this season and we lost both, by close margins, that should have any Laker fan worried. We can't close games!!!

we are spinning our wheels . LAKERNATION is very nervious about what kind of a team we have here. as the champs we have become greedy for more rings.the rest of the league has become much better and more competitive. now i feel that only with drew's return now we have our team. it is a better team, but other teams have gotten much better. and then we have the celtics who just got out of their trauma treatment center with revenge on their mind. i just don't get beating each other up. we are ONLY giving our opinion, after all. nothing more

Last season we never lost 4 in a row. We have this season, and we have not played any team of note yet. This is not last season. This is a new season.

Didn't the Lakers lose most of their "statement" games last season? Don't they remind you more of themselves than the Cavs of '08-'09? Wait. How many "statement" games have the Lakers played for you to make that statement at all?
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Other than Cleveland and Denver which other team did we lose the Season series to?
We have played against Denver and Utah this season and we lost both, by close margins, that should have any Laker fan worried. We can't close games!!!

Posted by: keen observer | December 23, 2010 at 04:04 PM
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We've gotten blown out in both of those buildings in the past two seasons. Who have we lost a season series to this season? What relevance does the season series have anyway? Didn't we lose the season series to Orlando in 2009 and beat them 4-1 in the NBA Finals? Didn't we close out against the Clippers in the last minute? Isn't "can't" a strong word and a bit premature?

DHoward's possibility coming to LA should motivate Bynum to play harder..That's good thing for the Lakers at least next 2 yrs.

Last season we never lost 4 in a row. We have this season, and we have not played any team of note yet. This is not last season. This is a new season.

Posted by: keen observer | December 23, 2010 at 04:11 PM
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This is a new season. I agree!

Do you think Mitch Kupchak upgraded the bench this season? Do you think Andrew Bynum is going to get healthier and better or is he doomed for more injuries and regression?

What is your overall prognosis for the season?

OMG
I'VE BEEN PLAYED

KobeMVP888 and keen observer are one in the same.

Makes sense though

All games are important when you're not at the top of your conference. The Lakers don't sound confident and with the way Lebron has played in hostile crowds, I wouldn't be either.


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