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Lakers start trip with a loss but still decide not to practice

Bulls1_300 The Lakers have lost six of their last eight games, including a defeat Friday night at Chicago that kicked off a six-game trip.

The Lakers have scored fewer than 100 points in seven of their last nine games. They won only two games during that span.

So what does Lakers Coach Phil Jackson do when the team arrives today in New York in advance of Sunday's game against the New Jersey Nets at the Prudential Center?

Jackson canceled practice.

Maybe it's because the Lakers have defeated the Nets in their last five meetings, and in seven of the last eight.

The Lakers will see former teammate Jordan Farmar, who signed a three-year, $12-million contract with the Nets over the summer as a free agent.

Farmar is averaging 10.4 points and 4.6 assists in 26.1 minutes a game. The point guard is a reserve, but he did start twice when Devin Harris was out with an injury.

Farmar spent the first four years of his professional career with the Lakers. He played two seasons at UCLA.

 -- Broderick Turner, reporting from New York

Photo: Some in-your-face defense by Kobe Bryant and the Lakers couldn't prevent a loss on Friday night to Derrick Rose and the Bulls. Credit: Brian Cassella / Chicago Tribune

 
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On Broadway: George Benson

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sorry, it's the Nyets

any songs??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

or just toll booths and turnpikes

this is for Sonny Belfast

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going to see it on the BIG SCREEN TODAY ONLY AT 7:35. much better choice than Miami-Queens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello, fellow bloggers.
It's been awhile since my last post.
My thoughts on the Lake Show so far this season?
That 4 game losing streak may have cost the Lakers the ring.
No Phil Jackson championship team lost 4 in a row.
The lost against Utah: no problem (too much turkey).
The lost against Indiana: no excuse (too lazy on Sunday).
The lost against Memphis: no problem (too much Conley).
The lost against Houston: no excuse (no Yao or Brooks).
If the Lakers split the above 4 games:
The Lakers record would be 18-5 (and not 16-7).
And that, my friends is huge.
Think about it for a minute.
With all of the injuries.
With all of the new players.
With trying to build chemistry.
The Lakers could be 18-5.
One game behind Boston.
Notice I did not mentioned a 3 lost San Antonio.
The Lakers will come out of the West.
That is not the issue.
The issue is Boston.
The Celtics are playing for game 7 on their home court.
The Lakers do not want to play game 7 in Boston.
They will not get the whistles.
Game 7 in Boston will be physical.
And physicality plays into the Celtics hand.
The Lakers are taking the regualr season for granted.
They did not think Boston would play like it's 2007 again.
In conclusion:
The Lakers must sweep the next 6 games.
The next 5 on the road and the home game against the Bucs.
After the next 6 games: the Heat and the Spurs.
The next 8 games will decide overall home court advantage.
Doc Rivers has convinced his team to play for game 7.
The Celtics will not play just to stay healthy.
Again, Doc wants game 7 in Boston.
The next 8 games are key to having game 7 at home.
Stay tune.

ohhhhhhhhh Sonnyyyyyyyyy

didn't you mention that u r going to walk your dog??????????

or that's your job: dogs walker?

So, Artest can't understand the triangle offense.

That's not really a surprise.

What do you expect from someone who makes an amoeba look like Albert Einstein.

Ouch,
Smarten up buddy. Stop replying sonny

Last night the problem wasn't D. The bulls were missing shots early in the game cos of the Lakers D. Bulls were taking jump shots cos thats what the Lakers were giving them, nothing inside. Later in the game was a different story.
I think the problem last night (and for the most part every game) was offense. The Lakers on offense are playing 3 v 5, that's just too much for our other 3.

Too bad the sky is falling, I was too busy admiring our two straight titles to notice.

Are you guys serious? Yes, the Lakers have been playing lackluster at times, but we're just a month and a half into the season and panic has already set in???

Gee, now that it's December, it is clear that the Lakers are obviously out of the running, I say we all give up on the season, award a title to whomever is in first on December 12th, crawl back into our holes and just spend the rest of the season watching teams NBA teams play other things, like tiddlywinks or scrabble. At least that would give a chance to the Clippers or Kings or some other losing organizations to score some victories.

Seriously now, this team is going through the motions at times, this is like the 11:30 blues on a monday at work.

There is one thing that does mildly concern me, it is that they are starting to redevelop their 'throw-it-to-Kobe-and-stand-around-and-watch-him-work' mentality late in games. The flow is fine early on, and Kobe is a hella-good floor general who must equally be respected for his shot as his passing, but later in games it seems cutters stop cutting, slashers stop slashing, the offense starts to get predictable and Kobe is left to play 1-on-5 ball at times.

This isn't Kobe's fault, its the fault of everyone else on the floor. This also isn't something we haven't seen before either, something that they haven't been doing for the last decade and something they haven't worked through in the past. Yes, Kobe is pretty jaw-droppingly skilled, but c'mon guys!

The wins will start coming when the other 4 guys on the floor with #24 start increasing their intensity and activity level in tight games. For our bigs especially, that do looked winded at times, Bynum will be a godsend (and a dominant force in his own right that the Lakers clearly have been missing).

Most recent games the Lakers go from disinterested to flat-out bored looking on the floor. In my mind it is from three-straight Finals appearances, they have revved up the motor a couple of times early-season, enough to know they are still great when need be. Now, they are laying off the accelerator, trying to coast through games and unfortunately getting caught by some lesser teams (and Chicago which isn't).

They are playing too laid-back, just expecting to turn it up a notch or two at the end of games, and that notch is either broken or out of their reach.

Other teams (all those without back-to-back titles) do have an urgency, an immediacy to win games. The Lakers simply don't have that, much of the reason the showtime team failed in '86. I'm not saying the same thing will happen here, but a very good, experienced team knows they don't have to flex their muscles every game. However, they do have to do a little more to get by.

I'm just glad that a number of you guys have already called the season, I mean now we can get on with our lives and take up shuffleboards and of course curling...


GO LAKERS!!!!!


CAREFUL! FALLING SKY!

Chicago gave us enough chances to blow them out last, but our offense was wack. Our offense will keep being weak as long as fisher and Artest keep playing the way they are, pathetic.

Everybody needs to chillax - geez, you'd think the Lakers had just gone down 0-3 in the WCFs or something!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ia-8_14-M4
"Try not to get worried, try not to turn onto problems that upset you..."
My only question about Phil's decision to cancel practice today is, does that still give Bynum the requisite practice he needs in order to preserve his expected return to the lineup on December 14th.

Forget about whether the Lakers are better than the Celts, the Heat, the Spurs, the Mavs...

That simply does not matter. What matters is this: HEART!

Those afore-mentioned teams are playing with passion, intensity and with a purpose. The Lakers are NOT.

For Lakers' fans sake we can only hope the team is merely pacing itself while being lazy and complacent doing so. And that eventually it will turn its switch on and kick into championship gear.

OTH, there's a dark and ominous possibility: the team just does not have its heart set on winning another championship anymore. The team is competition weary. Championship fatigue. Everybody from the coach down to the players maybe saying the right things but reality is that they may not feel as much motivation to go through all the battles again. Two is ENOUGH!

So that's why since Thanksgiving the Lakers have been playing "good" basketball for about 10-12 minutes a game with the rest of the time coasting.

Against Chicago last night LAL played real basketball the first 8 min. of the game then snoozed until about 3 min. left of the game. Unfortunately for the Lakers just when they started their comeback the Bulls out of sheer luck hit a couple of "freak" shots that put the game out of reach for good.

It's too bad because the Lakers could have put away the Bulls anytime in the first three and a half quarters of the game.

Pitiful.

PS: Lakers fans should wake up and stop delude ourselves. Forgot once and for all the EXCUSE of playing without Bynum, if the team could only beat the Clippers by ONE point out of sheer luck that's a very, very, very BAD SIGN.

It is time to shape up the bench. Too many turnovers and the pace is too frantic. We cannot hold a lead and our rebounding is weak.

Tony Sassi

To take our minds off of the impending doom, total collapse and falling sky, I found this video to be pretty interesting as a basketball fan.

Soccer may the the worlds biggest sport, but basketball is next judging by how passionate fans are even in Lebanon:

http://online.wsj.com/video/basketball-beirutstyle/C390CEB2-9717-4C1C-BE67-A4192135C102.html?mod=WSJ_article_related


GO LAKERS!!!!!!


HARD HAT REQUIRED! CAUTION, SKY FALLING!

Jefe,
No, we're obviously not out of this regular season tournament, but to sit there and act like the Lakers are perfectly fine as if they don't have some sort of problems is just ignorant. The problems are real and the problems are here.
Yes, it's a young and long season and I do expect our team to fix some problems.
And I also expect the teams around the league to cool off as well.
So yes I still do think the Lakers don't have to panic just yet, but they're playing with fire.

*repost*

I try not to interfere, but I had to chime in on this one...

ouchhhh - you insult and ridicule Caliphilosopher, for his fanhood and for wanting to be a teacher...

What kind of jerk are you...apparently you had a poor education, for you don't know how to be a fan...

A Laker fan is one who would support his team, not one who continually comes and insults it's players, coaching staff, and front office...I have never seen you once post anything remotely positive about this team...you are nothing but a ball of criticism and negativety on the blog and chats...So please be honest...you are not a Laker fan, but a Laker hater who thinks he is clever in his posts of toxic remarks...Hey you're not funny...The only thing funny about you is, how in your mind, you think you are a Laker fan...

As far as teachers...figures that is your mentality...Teachers are one of the most underpaid and least appreciated members of our society...But they are the most important people in our society, for they are teaching and molding our next generation, our children, that will be running our society and future...For you to make fun of Cali for this, show's and proves your ignorance...or lack of education...

At least you are consistent...you don't know how to be a fan, and you don't what is important in life...But your handle fits...like a festering wound, the only result would be infection and blood poisoning....

THE BYNUM ZONE !!!
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Every once in a blue moon, all the chaos of fear and angst of doubt that turn long-time good Lakers fans into out-of-control rabid trolls disappear as we suddenly pierce the eye of the hurricane and the entire blog embraces the greatness of this team in this season for the ages. Take heart loyal Lakers fans; we are about to embark on a journey into the Bynum Zone.
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What is about to happen is a perfect storm of Andrew Bynum returning and the Lakers finally displaying the greatness for which we have all been waiting. Whether you believe as some of us do that Drew will be the next great Lakers center or not, what is painfully clear now is that the Lakers will need a healthy Andrew Bynum if they expect to three-peat as the NBA champions.
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This is not 2009 or 2010 when an injured and limited contribution from Andrew Bynum was enough for the Lakers to emerge as NBA champions. The rest of league has gotten bigger and better as teams have bulked up their front courts to better be able to handle the Lakers size. Half the time, it now seems as if the matchups with Pau playing center favor the other team.
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I thought Pau played a superb game on whole and redeemed himself for his previous shaky performance against Noah. And while I still thought Pau faded on offense in the 2nd half, his late game defense exposed Noah’s lack of an offensive ability and took him out of the game. Unfortunately, Noah was able to take away most of Pau’s 1-on-1 low post inside game.
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While it may take Drew a couple of weeks to get his real game conditioning back, I expect the team to get a huge and instant boost in team morale and overall chemistry from Drew’s return. His physical presence alone transforms the Lakers into a much tougher and more intimidating team on offense and defense, not to mention allowing Pau to play the 4 and Lamar 6th man.
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With Drew healthy, the Lakers will finally become the team that many of us have envisioned for the last three years, a dominating team that clearly stands head and shoulders over the rest of the NBA. So put away your doubts, allay all your fears, and purge yourself of disappointments because we are about to enter the Bynum Zone, where Drew is always healthy and dominant.

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TOM

Well said LEWSTRS.

I find Cali's posts to be some of the nicest and most level-headed comments on the board, while I frequently find Ouchhhhhhh to regularly have vile-filled rants that are frankly scroll-worthy.

But to personally attack Cali is something we can't stand around and watch you do. I was just going to ignore it, but that is the wrong attitude to have as we all should point out the rabble-rousers in order to have a better place.

Cali took the high road but we shouldn't stand around and allow this to happen. I'm with LEWSTRS, you want to call Laker players childish names and rant and rave - fine. But don't call out other bloggers.

Even though your childish material is scroll-worthy, I stand with LEWSTRS and others in telling you that personal snipes aren't going to be tolerated even if they aren't censored by the Times staff...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

BTW judging by the quality and intelligence of Cali's posts as compared to Ouchhhhhh, had Cali decided to lower himself and respond on Ouchhhhhh's level, I fear it would have been a KO. Ouchhhhhh, you should consider yourself fortunate he is a better guy than that...

LakerTom: "With Drew healthy, the Lakers will finally become the team that many of us have envisioned for the last three years, a dominating team that clearly stands head and shoulders over the rest of the NBA. So put away your doubts, allay all your fears, and purge yourself of disappointments because we are about to enter the Bynum Zone, where Drew is always healthy and dominant."
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Amen to that!

With so much negativity flowing after losses these days (as if the Lakers haven't gone to three-straight Finals!) it is harder and harder to find rays of optimism amongst all the clouds that many people dwell in.

The fact is we ARE getting back a critical piece, possibly the top-center in the league (offensively he is right now, hands down, in my eyes) and like you say, someone who will get Pau back in his more natural forward position, L.O. back to anchor the bench and provide them both with rest.

Some people may want to ignore the obvious, that Drew is a beast in the making, young enough to continue improving at 22 and someone who displayed more grit in playing through injury last season than anyone not named Kobe on the squad.

Reality is, many of these losses would have been averted had Drew been there. However, it is the 'perfect storm' in that the Lakers have been floundering, their bigs need rest, the team needs a pick-me-up and a shakeup on offense as well as more interior size to keep pesky guards out of the lane and control the paint. Bynum will do all these things, and his timing actually couldn't be better in that he will bring exactly what the team needs.

The Lakers haven't been at full strength all season, it will be great to see the whole squad *finally* together again...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

LT’S RCOD’S !!!
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“Andrew would be enough to turn these close losses into wins. Any kind of quality minutes from him would be minutes Pau could rest. Rotations change, all is well.” –Vman.
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“Tell me a team out there who wouldn't LOVE to be in the Lakers shoes now, being the champion for two consecutive years? Believe me folks, teams are WARY of the Lakers come playoff time, especially when they are at FULL STRENGTH!...” –Let's Go L's!
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“Count me as not worried. Once we have Bynum back, we will have all the pieces we need to defend our title on a nightly basis.” –DwnTwnAtty.
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“Bynum can't come back fast enough. The Lakers are so thin up front. They only really have one guy who can play center, and he's a forward. Behind Pau and Lamar they have nobody. And Pau and Lamar are both thin guys, there is no bulk up front. It's tough to go 48 minutes with that kind of depth up front.” –Tom Daniels.
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“Regardless of the quality of the opponent, the Lakers are always the team to beat. If Gasol, Bynum and Odom are healthy (or are at least out there sharing minutes), no team can beat us in a 7 game series. Only the Lakers can beat the Lakers.” –KobeMVP888.
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“What kind of jerk are you...apparently you had a poor education, for you don't know how to be a fan...A Laker fan is one who would support his team, not one who continually comes and insults it's players, coaching staff, and front office...I have never seen you once post anything remotely positive about this team...you are nothing but a ball of criticism and negativety on the blog and chats...So please be honest...you are not a Laker fan, but a Laker hater who thinks he is clever in his posts of toxic remarks...Hey you're not funny...The only thing funny about you is, how in your mind, you think you are a Laker fan...” –Lewsters.
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TOM

Cyber, great link to the Lebanese basketball league. That Loren Woods looks familiar, where did he play last in the NBA? Hey, was that KobeMVP on the trombone? He is one passionate fan when he is not on the blog. lol!
I'm sure if the Lakers really wanted to, they could have scoured European or other leagues in search for another 7 footer. They obviously think they don't need to.

Laker J: "Hey, was that KobeMVP on the trombone? He is one passionate fan when he is not on the blog. lol!"
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LOL! Yeah, maybe that's his international team, lol. I love how it shows that hoops passion isn't merely contained here in the States. Also loved their 'free-throw' drill or whatever it was they were doing.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about Loren Woods, the name sounded familiar. Doing a quick Wiki on him shows he played for the T'Wolves, Heat and Raptors.

Splitter was a big name for a few years, the Spurs snatched him up. The only other name that I can really think of outside of the 'Greek Shaq' guy is Fran Vasquez of Barca. I don't know if he's NBA-material, probably there just aren't that many quality bigs overseas that haven't already been looked at and tossed out.

Makes the fact we are *finally* getting our big back that much sweeter...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

I actually remembered Woods from Arizona where he played his college ball at. Yeah, Fran is one of the few skilled bigs overseas, but the Magic own his rights. Speaking of the Magic, they have issues. They couldn't win with Howard dropping 39 on the Blazers the other night. That's why I believe Howard will become frustrated with that team and will want out at some point.
In the meantime, looking forward to a healthy, rested, and mentally ready Bynum to return.

Laker Tom,

The Bynum Zone!!
Nice encouraging post.
Uplifting for those of us who sometimes get too down on the team.

Bynum is not going to save us. I just don't see how we get out of this funk without making major changes

@keen
i too am concerned. it appears that the entire lakers' season and championship fall upon bynum and unfortunately, history has proven that his health does not hold up to the rigors of the game. we still have a trade deadline so all we can do is wait and see what happens. in the interim, bynum is expected back by the end of this month - tuesday, if you're optimistic - at which time we can all begin to really evaluate this team at supposed full strength.

After a run of great posts from CCX, LakerTom, Lew and LakerJ (I didn't quite grasp the trombone thing, but oh well), we the get our brilliant perspective with a "keen observatio"n at 05:50 PM. And a few chuckles as well, of course.

Lew, I find it much easier to skip over (d)ouchhhhh(e)'s blogs than to acknowledge them. You could put him, hobbitmage, keen observer, Mr. Laker and dtime (and others who I will spare here) in one big circle jerk, archive their posts for eternity and get absolutely nothing whatsoever of anything resembling a socially redeeming comment out of them. But it's good entertainment.

For those of you who enjoy pro basketball history, I am in the middle of of thoroughly enjoyable and extremely unique book entitled "The Undisputed Guide to Pro Basketball History" by FreeDarko. It is clever, brilliantly written and piques your interest with some interesting little factoids on each page. I'll provide a link below for anyone who is interested in something outside of whether Derek Fisher missed his last outside shot or how the team is playing this early in the practice season.

Speaking of "entitled," I want to thank CCX for his well stated line at 01:15 PM: "Too bad the sky is falling, I was too busy admiring our two straight titles to notice." For those who have forgotten, back-to-back titles is the best the Showtime Lakers ever did, so maybe less of a spoiled rotten attitude and more appreciation and understanding of this group is in order by those who have condemned the Lakers to failure and who hate Andrew Bynum because he took a sensible approach to his surgery and rehab, Derek Fisher because he's old and slow, and Luke Walton because he has a bad contract and is no longer useful to you (or maybe he never was). Lew, you said it all with your post at 01:51 PM.

Anyway, here a link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/FreeDarko-Presents-Undisputed-Basketball-History/dp/1608190838


@KEEN OBSERVER… “Bynum is not going to save us. I just don't see how we get out of this funk without making major changes.”

I actually agree 100% with your comment about how we are not going to “get out of this funk without making major changes.” Where our opinions differ is that you do not realize that getting Bynum back will have a greater impact on the Lakers than adding any realistically available player from any other team. There is actually no other player in the entire league that fits the Lakers needs than Andrew Bynum. Ironically, adding Drew to this Lakers team is going to remind us of when we first got Pau. It will be as if the Lakers suddenly signed a 22-year old center who could post 15/10/3 from the D-League.

But you need to realize that Bynum’s value to the team is far greater than anything that shows up in the game box unless you’re counting wins. He transforms the Lakers from a finesse team to a power team. He allows Pau to play his natural power forward position and Lamar to be our 6th man. He gives the Lakers the ability to cover all 48 minutes of every game at the 4 and 5 with a trio of all stars. And he gives the Lakers bench a league best 4-man rotation of Lamar Odom and the Killer B’s. Bottom line, a healthy Andrew Bynum elevates the Lakers from an elite team to a dominant team.

The Lakers might have won in 2009 without Andrew Bynum but the pendulum had already started its swing and in 2010, the Lakers would not have repeated had they not had at least an injured Andrew Bynum. Now in 2011, the pendulum has swung all the way as the rest of the NBA have bulked and bullied up to be able to matchup better against the Lakers. And when those matchups are against Pau Gasol, the Lakers have suddenly realized they now need Andrew Bynum more than ever before in the past.
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TOM

The Lakers might have won in 2009 without Andrew Bynum but the pendulum had already started its swing and in 2010, the Lakers would not have repeated had they not had at least an injured Andrew Bynum. Now in 2011, the pendulum has swung all the way as the rest of the NBA have bulked and bullied up to be able to matchup better against the Lakers. And when those matchups are against Pau Gasol, the Lakers have suddenly realized they now need Andrew Bynum more than ever before in the past.
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TOM
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Masterful!

Ok, I was a bit shocked by this post. As you guys know, I blame the "funk" we've been through on the lack of pratice. I understand some players, especially Pau and LO, are tired due to the heavy minutes they're playing. So skiping some pratices give them some well deserved rest... But what about just having the guys on the hardwood shooting some balls? No actual pratice, just the players, some balls and the hoop? When we don't shoot, we loose our "touch", hence the enormous amount of bricks we've been throwing lately.


The more we're tired, the less we pratice, and that's NO GOOD.

Magic Phil

Relax. The REAL Magic Phil isn't worried.

Hey Lakerholics, a new post is up.

I was wanting to weigh in myself on the Bynum-returning, team-in-a-funk situations, but forces have aligned against me today and kept me busy with work.

So, I posted Mike Bresnahan's report on the blog to give you guys something fresh to view, comment on or just start a new thread.

I'm definitely planning on running a live chat tomorrow starting around 9:45 a.m. If I don't get a post up later tonight (which is unlikely), I'll definitely take a nap and join you guys for what should be an interesting game.

Take care.


I do agree with the over all view of the lakers over all outlook.No need to panic everything will be all right its along season.And teams ahead of us they will eventually cool off and hit stumblings blocks in the road.For some teams you can peak to early, and as the season progress when other teams are starting to gear up for the playoff their struggling.

The lakers will be fine. Older teams like the celtics,spurs i question can they keep up the good play all year long especially the spurs with ginobli being lil injury prone over the yrs and the celtics with pierce and kg.

The mav's i think for sure they're peaking early after all look at their record last season. Wasn't they on a hot streek as well 13 games and cool off then was ousted early in the playoff.It will even out over the season you'll see.

I believe when drew gets back the team will get better,but i worry that he isn't coming back before he's mentally ready.I read his interview when he was ask if he was presured into returning sooner than he had plan.And his answer was the organization felt he's ready.Something to that fact but it doesn't seem like he's 100% ready.

Go Lakers!


wake up lakers fan bynum cant help the team as long as fish
is starting,the team is like it coach laid back and no excitement.no hustle standing around watching kobe.the whole
coaching staff need to be re-place.someone need to show fish how to guard some one,he looks stupid on defens he is crouch
over to much the person he is trying to guard get around him before he can raise up.luke is another question get rid of
him.

get rid of the triangle.it works well when you have smart
players.

Magic Phil

Relax. The REAL Magic Phil isn't worried.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 11, 2010 at 07:20 PM
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LOL, stop it 888...LOL

I'm justa ex-player that loves the hardwood. That's where we belong, and when PJ just cancel a pratice day, that means we're away from the beloved orange ball...no good.

Carry on (thx mamba24)


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