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Lakers' Bryant, Gasol would be All-Star starters based on current voting

Kobe Bryant has the most votes in the Western Conference, which is hardly a surprise, but Lakers teammate Pau Gasol would also be voted in as a starter if the voting ended Thursday.

The voting doesn't end for another five weeks, but Bryant leads the NBA with almost 723,000 votes and Gasol has almost 391,000 votes, trailing only Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant (471,000) among West forwards.

Gasol has a slight lead over Denver forward Carmelo Anthony (370,000 votes). Clippers forward Blake Griffin is sixth with 245,000 votes and Lakers forward Lamar Odom is seventh with 134,594 votes.

Lakers center Andrew Bynum has 198,000 votes, a distant second to Yao Ming (431,000) among West centers.

New Orleans guard Chris Paul is second among West guards, comfortably ahead of San Antonio's Manu Ginobili.

The current starters for the East would be Miami forward LeBron James, Boston forward Kevin Garnett, Miami guard Dwyane Wade, Boston guard Rajon Rondo and Orlando center Dwight Howard.

Voting ends Jan. 23. The All-Star Game is Feb. 20 at Staples Center.

-- Mike Bresnahan

 
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@Lew - It looks like its going to go down to the wire with us this week. What's up no song today?

Posted by: LRob | December 16, 2010 at 03:52 PM

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No more songs for me...It's a sign of a quiet protest...too much stank in here...

By the way did you know that Classy Gasol ROCKS...

Of course you do...he was your #1 pick...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

"Are you saying that if we had faced Denver (1-3), Portland (1-2), Dallas (2-2), San Antonio (2-2), Orland0 (1-1) or Cleveland (0-2), one of those teams would have knocked us off and prevented us from winning #16?

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 03:51 PM "

No, they certainly *could* have beat those teams in the playoffs.

I'm just saying that the Lakers DIDN'T come back and beat those teams they lost statement games to so I'm not subscribing to the theory that the Lakers were a completely different team from the practice season to the postseason. There's no proof of it.

If they struggled all season against Denver, Cleveland, and teams like that and then became a different team and wiped them out in the playoffs, believe me, I'd be agreeing with you right now.

So which is it? If the starting center voted in is injured, who replaces him? the second most vote getter or is it a coach's pick?

Thanks for clearing it up for me Lew,

I was a little confused a couple of threads back when he's talking about Jerry Buss buying a barstool for him in Ohio.

"So which is it? If the starting center voted in is injured, who replaces him? the second most vote getter or is it a coach's pick?

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | December 16, 2010 at 04:01 PM

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I looked it up, Stern picks a replacement (doesn't have to be same position) and the coach puts whoever he wants in the starting lineup in the injured player's place.

So that's it for Yao and that sucks. Bigs just don't have the resiliency it takes to the nightly pounding for the most part.

That's why I, for one, would be fine with Andrew coming off the bench for about 15-25 minutes depending until his body is fully adjusted to the rigors of the association. Beast-like nights will come, but for the most part, tread lightly with the minutes. I'd rather see flashes of brilliance than another injury. Outside of the teams with some bulk inside, I don't see limiting Bynum's minutes hurting the team in the short or long term.

Posted by: hobbitmage | December 16, 2010 at 01:19 PM

Shaq hurt a few Lakers' fans feelings the way he departed and trashed us, but just like Michael Jordan AND Kobe Bryant, he learned how to win championships under the tutelage of Phil Jackson. To say that Shaq is anything less than a champion is simply not true despite all these "facts" you flung out there. It's still a team game and, whether you want to accept it or not, he was still the Big Centerpiece. It's interesting that just because it came out of Shaq's mouth, you choose to discredit it. The TRUTH is that you ignored the message and focused on who delivered it (me and then Shaq as my inherently unreliable source).

I think the formula of "take care of home court and win the games you're supposed to win on the road" during the practice season is fine for a proven championship team, regardless of who said it. Yes, it is very important to establish yourself as a good road team, but let's be real here, THIS Lakers team has already established itself as a good playoff road team by winning at least one playoff game in each of their last 8 playoff series and KNOWS how to win in hostile environments in the playoffs. (I believe that historically accurate). Did I emphasize the playoffs in there enough?

htj,

"That's why I, for one, would be fine with Andrew coming off the bench for about 15-25 minutes depending until his body is fully adjusted to the rigors of the association. Beast-like nights will come, but for the most part, tread lightly with the minutes. I'd rather see flashes of brilliance than another injury. Outside of the teams with some bulk inside, I don't see limiting Bynum's minutes hurting the team in the short or long term."

That would be the best way to maximize the odds of keeping Bynum healthy for the playoffs.

If they struggled all season against Denver, Cleveland, and teams like that and then became a different team and wiped them out in the playoffs, believe me, I'd be agreeing with you right now.

Posted by: Bay to LA | December 16, 2010 at 04:01 PM
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I understand your point of view, but in the minds of players, coaches and analysts, the regular season and the playoffs are 2 separate seasons and, in the end, it comes down to match ups and playoff experience. That is why Orlando dispensed with the Cavs in 2008 and why Boston dispensed with them last season. In 2009 we went 0-2 against Orlando during the regular season, but the playoffs are a whole different story and they happened to catch us playing our best ball at the right time in the NBA Finals and we beat them in 5 games.

Yes, I was thrilled with the match ups we drew last season because certainly it was a seemingly easier path to the Finals, but I also believe that only the Lakers could have beaten the Lakers in the end.

Shaq was just as responsible (if not more) than any other player for the 3 rings the Lakers won while he was on the team. I can't stand the guy pretty much since the "company time" nonsense, but while he was motivated and hungry (well I suppose he always is), he was as dominant a force in the NBA as anything. Free throws or no free throws, denying his role on the team is a case of revisionist history.

That being said, snaq sux.

A music post for the state of the blog, granted it is done tongue-firmly-in-cheek. Really just an excuse to post some Sam Cooke. He had such a great sounding voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQU4torUz-Q&feature=related

Bay to LA

Do you agree with John Hollinger's statement that he made after the Lakers won the championship in 2009: "I will always believe that despite the fact that the Lakers won the NBA championship, the Cavaliers were the best team in the NBA last season."

Bay to LA

Do you agree with John Hollinger's statement that he made after the Lakers won the championship in 2009: "I will always believe that despite the fact that the Lakers won the NBA championship, the Cavaliers were the best team in the NBA last season."

Posted by: KobeMVP888

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As long as the Lakers are the best team in the postseason, that's all that matters.

Peace!

[dbdh]

Bay to LA

Do you agree with John Hollinger's statement that he made after the Lakers won the championship in 2009: "I will always believe that despite the fact that the Lakers won the NBA championship, the Cavaliers were the best team in the NBA last season."

Posted by: KobeMVP888

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As long as the Lakers are the best team in the postseason, that's all that matters.

Peace!

[dbdh]

For anyone who is interested, here's a transcript of Joe Smith's first interview as a Laker:

http://blog.lakers.com/lakers/2010/12/16/joe-smiths-first-lakers-interview/


Since Sasha is traded, and it's now time to talk about Luke trade. This will be the most difficult one, but I was really impressed how Mitch came up with Sasha trade. As it turned out, the Lakers got Joe Smith, two 2nd rounders, the right for center Sergei Lishouk, and the trade exception. So anything is possible with Mr. Kupchak these days! Minnesota seems to have surplus of PG as Laker J suggested below. I am sure the Lakers would not mind adding PG to their roster. And Luke (a master of triange and liked by coach) could be what the Timberwolves is missing right now under Rambis.

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Minnesota is always a good source for surplus point guards. Now that Johnny Flynn is coming back, Telfair may be available. Not saying he's a must, but he's a possibility. I wonder what the Lakers will do before the trade deadline. The rights to Rubio seems enticing, but it's a gamble at best right now.

Posted by: Laker J | December 16, 2010 at 09:40 AM


@Lew - I understand.

Yep, Gasol is making me look like a decent GM :-)


@Mark G - any reason to play Sam is a good one!

"I understand your point of view, but in the minds of players, coaches and analysts, the regular season and the playoffs are 2 separate seasons and, in the end, it comes down to match ups and playoff experience. That is why Orlando dispensed with the Cavs in 2008 and why Boston dispensed with them last season. In 2009 we went 0-2 against Orlando during the regular season, but the playoffs are a whole different story and they happened to catch us playing our best ball at the right time in the NBA Finals and we beat them in 5 games.

Yes, I was thrilled with the match ups we drew last season because certainly it was a seemingly easier path to the Finals, but I also believe that only the Lakers could have beaten the Lakers in the end.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 04:29 PM "

Did you watch the Cavs and Boston in the regular season last year? I saw the Celtics beat the Cavs two separate times in games that LeBron went off and scored 40. At that time, I knew Boston could hang with Cleveland in a way that no one else seemed able to, because even a great LeBron game couldn't guarantee them a victory.

In 2009, Jameer Nelson was the thorn in the Lakers side in both regular season games. The Jameer Nelson they saw in the finals was rusty, hadn't played in months, and it showed. With Rafer Alston as the starting PG, I think the Lakers would have swept them in the regular season as well.


Fan of the Mamba/LEWSTRS,

Lewstrs is right. I am back for the holidays and will return to California before New Year.

I'm busy doing my Secret Agent duties finding out how the Cleveland community is dealing with life after The Decision.

Here's what I've got so far:

1) Not a single person I've spoken to expected that LeBron was going to leave on the night of The Decision. It was collective heartbreak for the community.
2) There was a circling of the wagons around the Cavs afterwards and community support for the team swelled.
3) When the Cavs played without energy against the Meat at Cleveland, afterwards community support for the team utterly evaporated. It wasn't that they lost. It was that it appeared that they didn't fight. It seems that the Cavs didn't realize the historical importance of the game. Now the community of Greater Cleveland is done with the team. They want the line-up either blown up and to start over again or simply don't care about basketball anymore.
4) Many people believe that the Cavs didn't fight because LeCreep basically takes on a GM role at every place he plays, so they didn't want to insult him and deny themselves to possibility of getting a job in the future.
5) I've spoken to only a few people about this, but the combination of The Decision and LeBron's return to Cleveland and the Cavs laying down without a fight has metaphorically kicked the community of Cleveland in the gut with a steel-toed boot, while it was already curled down on the ground reeling in pain and misery. People are really down. It's sad.

In summary, LeBron is a jerk.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

"Bay to LA

Do you agree with John Hollinger's statement that he made after the Lakers won the championship in 2009: "I will always believe that despite the fact that the Lakers won the NBA championship, the Cavaliers were the best team in the NBA last season."

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 04:36 PM

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Wow. That's impossible to tell because like we both said before, it's all about matchups.

What I will say is that the team that ends up winning isn't always the best. Detroit and Miami are two recent examples that I think everyone can agree with.

Fan Of The Mamba,

I have discovered that the Lucky Barstool even works if I'm following the game on my smart phone.

NONE CAN DEFEAT!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Marvin & Sam - two of the greatest... Old School.

Oh, and John Hollinger shows why he will never be great: he can't learn from his mistakes. John, dude, say you were wrong, learn from it, move on and do better. Otherwise, you're still a flat-Earther, ya mouth-breathin', self-pro-creatin', ersatz journalist with an Electra-complex and a huge sense of inadequacy and real confusion because of it.

But then, those are just my opinions (and if I'm right about Marvin and Sam, how could I be wrong about John Hollinger? And who's going to argue I'm wrong aobut Marvin & Sam?),

The Lakers won the championship last season -> FACT
Everything else -> OPINION

"Since Sasha is traded, and it's now time to talk about Luke trade. This will be the most difficult one, but I was really impressed how Mitch came up with Sasha trade. As it turned out, the Lakers got Joe Smith, two 2nd rounders, the right for center Sergei Lishouk, and the trade exception. So anything is possible with Mr. Kupchak these days! Minnesota seems to have surplus of PG as Laker J suggested below. I am sure the Lakers would not mind adding PG to their roster. And Luke (a master of triange and liked by coach) could be what the Timberwolves is missing right now under Rambis."

No one is trading straight up for Luke. No one.

The only way it goes down is if the Lakers were trading a useful player like Odom or Bynum for a lesser player on another team. To "even out" the trade, the catch would be that the team would also have to take Luke Walton and his remaining 3 years of salary.

Luke gets paid too much, he does too little, and he has 2 years after this one. He's stuck in Lakerland.

For anyone who is interested, here's a transcript of Joe Smith's first interview as a Laker:

http://blog.lakers.com/lakers/2010/12/16/joe-smiths-first-lakers-interview/

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 16, 2010 at 04:45 PM

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One of the QAs from Smith interview from :

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On why he wasn’t getting minutes in New Jersey:
Smith: They were trying to play the younger guys. We had four or five guys at one position: Derrick Favors; Troy Murphy; Kris Humphries. They were trying to develop them, and that’s why they felt that this would be a good opportunity for me to move on and try to do something special here in L.A.

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Thanks, KobeMVP888....I now feel better. It was so mysterious to me why he only played 4 games this season. I am sure PJ will find some PT for Joe Smith since PJ prefers verterans to young players.

Lakerholics, made it to Portland after two flight delays and a re-routing. Kind of chilly up here, but I shouldn't complain about being 2 hours late and cold, not with Jon K back in O-H-I-O and other Lakers fans checking in from Colorado and the Midwest.

I figured that Kobe/Turkish Air post would get the ball rolling today. And, boy, did a few of you immediately fast break. Sports+Politics=5, 4, 3, 2, 1, ignition, we have lift off!

And, lastly, enjoy the chat tomorrow morning with Brez. Back when I actually had some hair on the top of my head and my sons only came up to our bellies and chests, we ran full court together. Brez has watched more than a few of my 24-footers hit nothing but net. I swear, Brez is a menace driving to the hoop, all elbows and knees. And they're very boney.

Only three days until MM returns. . . .

"He should change his name to Lamar Ming. He would get a lot mroe votes that way. And it has a sort of nice ring to it.

Posted by: flask | December 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM"

Flask, no that won't work, as 1.3 Billion Chinese did not vote for Sun Yue in 08/09...I guess his body of work as a Laker that year (28 minutes) did not cut it. C'Mon, itsa joke.

"He should change his name to Lamar Ming. He would get a lot mroe votes that way. And it has a sort of nice ring to it.

Posted by: flask | December 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM"

Flask, no that won't work, as 1.3 Billion Chinese did not vote for Sun Yue in 08/09...I guess his body of work as a Laker that year (28 minutes) did not cut it. C'Mon, itsa joke.

 
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