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Kobe Bryant suffers sprained right pinkie finger

Kobe Bryant suffered a sprained right pinkie finger Friday night against the Philadelphia 76ers.

X-rays on the finger, taken after the Lakers' 93-81 victory, were negative.

Bryant was injured in the first quarter. He had trainer Gary Vitti tape the finger so he could continue to play.

"It was tough to hold the basketball, so it really affected it," Bryant said.

Bryant was three for 11 from the field, finishing with a season-low nine points. He was never aggressive, and said it was becasue of his painful finger.

"It was numb for about 20 minutes," Bryant said.

Bryant was asked how he injured his finger.

"Pau [Gasol] threw a bad pass," Bryant said, smiling.

Bryant  had problems with the right hand last season as well. He played most of the season with an avulsion fracture of his right index finger. But Bryant elected not to have surgery on the finger last summer, saying it would have taken too long to recover.

There were games last season in which Bryant was hit on the finger, and it left him in pain.

 -- Broderick Turner, reporting from Philadelphia

 

 
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Fisher got 5 rings for reason. How many current Celtics player got 5 rings? NONE. Well, Shaq has the most with 4, and 3 with the Lakers!!!

Posted by: LakerPeace


Luc Longely has 3 rings big deal. He was a pathetic player as is Fisher. This ring thing is nothing but nonsense. Shaq and Kobe carried Fisher and now he is carried by Kobe, Gasol, Odom and Bynum. So stop with the ring nonsense and watch this guy play...he has zero skills !!!!!

i can see that mark medina is going to have to ban the troll. such language from such a myopic loser. unlike, luc longley, who hardly contributed to the bulls titles, whereas d.fish has hit some amazing shots at crunch-time in big-time playoff games. it's not how you start the season....it's how you finish it! your rude and filthy language is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! mm, BAN THIS DOOFUS!

Cap - PLEASE don't do that again. You know how your mother told you your face would stick like that if you kept making that face? Well, that kind of horrible writing will do the same. For the love of humanity! Save yourself man! (Though I hear Marvel's looking for you to do some writing on the latest Hulk book.)

I'm sure Kobe'll be okay, but his FT's this year have been off, and his ball-handling has been a little down. Obviously the hand is bothering him. Don't know what they'll do, but he'll figure it out.

Cap - PLEASE don't do that again. You know how your mother told you your face would stick like that if you kept making that face? Well, that kind of horrible writing will do the same. For the love of humanity! Save yourself man! (Though I hear Marvel's looking for you to do some writing on the latest Hulk book.)

I'm sure Kobe'll be okay, but his FT's this year have been off, and his ball-handling has been a little down. Obviously the hand is bothering him. Don't know what they'll do, but he'll figure it out.

Wow - the dreaded double-post... and not even a very good one.

Impressions of Andrew Bynum


Active on the glass.

Hips and shoulders flying open on his shot, specifically his bounce-back after he gathers an offensive board.

Needs to find his feet and discover his center again.

Game 3 of his training camp: warming up, expectedly rusty, C+.

Jamie - I'm in agreement C+. About right for his third game back. The mind was willing, the body... not so much. He's comin' along nicely.

FIRST TRIMESTER GRADES

Now that the first third of the regular season is up, here are my grades for the team and the players in terms of their progression toward #17:

I give the Lakers a B- for their overall play because they are 20-7 have done a lot of good things which show their championship mettle since the 4 game skid. Had the record been worse, I would have graded them lower.

As for individual grades (based on their abilities):

Kobe- B-
Fish- C+
Gasol- B+
Odom- A
Artest- C
Brown- A-
Blake- B-
Barnes- B+
Luke- D+
Bynum- I
Caracter- D+
Ratliff- I
Ebanks- I
Sasha- I
Smith- I

63 footer -I'd like to take them up on their offer ;) afterall, in order to write for the Hulk, just channel your inner Celtics fan. All brawn, no smarts.

Cap - hahahahahah! You have discovered the trick I think. Use your power wisely.

Impressions of the season thus far...


Matt Barnes is to Laker basketball as Mike Watt is to bass guitar. They're the grout of their team's intricate tile work. Nobody oughta notice the grout unless it fails in the bonding. It's all about the low end.

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Or the thud stuff.

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Lamar has earned a starters spot and doesn't it feel silly to just relegate him to the bench?

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Kobe is that trippy pattern that captivates your mind's eye and catapults your subconcious into a realm of child like wonder when he makes the impossible real.

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Ron Artest is all heart, has more than a modicum of talent, and I really admire his Wu Tang D.

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Steve Blake is putting up the same numbers as Farmar did with far greater effeciency and supporting the team symbiosis.

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Pau is solid like an oak with as diverse a visage reflected in his repetoire' offensive.

Sad.


@63 Footer – Thanks for posting the info on Capt Beefheart passing. Prayers go out to his family and loved ones. His music will live on forever…and I need to listen to more of it. He definitely marched to his own beat. Nice tribute by the Black Keys…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ7N_2mPEUg


@ms – Nice Philly salute. Good stuff with Jazzy Jeff working the 1’s and 2’s. For some reason I thought you’d drop Phyliss or Jill.


@MVP – Very fair grading system. I can go with all of them, except I’d probably drop Shannon to a B. LO is the only one deserving of an A. What about Phil? I’d give him a B- thus far.


@Jamie Sweet – Artest = Wu Tang D…lol.

[picks nose, flicks booger at screen, shows more writing talent and judgment than 80% of the comments on this thread]

don't feed the trolls, Cap's

@GDub - I wasn't up on Alice Russell, but I like her style. Pretty versatile with covers of Jack and Teena!

ignore the TROLL! his comments are lame-o!

phred I hope that wasn't a true statistical analysis. Picking your nose in virtual public is virtually disgusting.

Garnet - Biggest puss in the world, talks smack but can't back it up ex: Gasoline in the finals last year - He made Garnet his biatch and all Garnet could do was bend over, grab his ankles, and ask for seconds

Pierce - Talked smack then let Artest eat him alive. Be sure to keep wheelchair in stock for possible flops

Ray Allen - prone to delivering Donuts after a day of hard work

Perkins - only guy on Celtic team with guts, still wouldn't have made a difference in Game 7.

Rondo - if he was a better shooter, you think Bryant would play free safety on him everytime. By the way, looks like smeagol

Shaq - Charity work/Sloppy Seconds, like someones momma

Marquis Daniels - you're kidding me right? Nexxxxxt!

Baby Huey Davis - Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing this guy on the floor. The drool is an added bonus. Somewhat solid

Nate - you'd think after all the AARP members on the celts he'd really think twice about jumping on backs right?

"Cry Me A" River - that whole starting 5 thing is just comedic. I hope it makes him feel better at night after having nightmares of a wasted 13 pt lead.

Celtics - living off mystique from prehistoric era, trying to make noise in the present. The future rest on Garnets knees. Can he hold up for a full season? We'll just have to wait and see, till then, the champs will be waiting for ya.

Sorry Phred,

As I posted before, I just got back to see the blog in it's present state and I just wanted to put in some work against the trolls. I'll abide by sentiments of my fellow bloggers and stop feeding'em

@63'er - Yeah, Bynum is going after it, he just looks like a newborn gazelle. It'll all catch up.

@LRob - Ron Artest: solid foundation but super quick hands. Wu Tang all the way, more team than solo (Biggie, Snoop, Dre, Tupak) and with so many angles an hooks there's no escaping the his groove.

@KobeMVP888 - I agree with Bynum's I as far as the season goes, three games does not a barometer make, I am actually going to consider all of his minutes as 'pre-season' minutes until after mid January. By then he'll have gotten a few practices in, played some solid minutes and we'll start to see where he's at. Taking tinto account how long it took for guys like Garnett, Stoudemire and Elton Brand to recover from major knee surgeries (I know that they're all different) I think it's fair to say we won't see anything near to 100% of what Bynum could, potentially, bring as an NBA player until next season. Those guys all went through various forms of micro-fracture, invasivr knee and mutliple rehab surgeries and in each case the recovery time to full strength lasted into the next season. The bummer in Bynum's case is there could be a lock out, further obscuring what he could truly mean to the Lakers.


I thought he didn't get enough minutes spelling Pau tonight. The Peej abides, though, the Peej abides.

We're taking bets folks. Who says Bynum will get injured:

In January?

In February?

In March?

The winning bettor gets a free vacation in Boston at the Four Seasons in Boston. All expenses paid for 3 glorious nights in June following the Celtics victory parade down Commonwealth Avenue.

The Lakers will never catch the Celtics in Championship Banners. They will try but as Jerry Buss continues to decline the Lakers franchise will also.

How sad.

But hey, your team has the Kardahshians. We in Boston only have Mark Wahlberg, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and Tom Brady to cheer on.

Kobe will never get another ring and you can bank on it.

Greetings Troll,

On the contrary, how many rings would Pierce have without KG? I'm sure both NEEEDED each other for a grand total of ONE as well as Shaq needed Kobe for THREE, especially when MISSING countless free throws in many TIGHT games which KB24 ended up saving. It goes BOTH ways! Please reference games from 1999-2002 (the THREE-PEAT YEARS) for further clarification.

Also, how significant are the numbers 83 and 79 in NBA Finals history? I'm sure you REMEMBER them well.

KB24 playing old? Consider....He's probably the only player in recent memory to play more MEANINGFUL games during the regular season and playoffs over a TEN year span. For example, can your Beantown boys KG, Ray Ray, and Pierce say the same in the same collective light? Sitting in a living room while watching other teams play in June can be humbling...

You see, the education of it all lies in what a player has done careerwise as a WHOLE with rather than what a player contributed in a ONE HIT WONDER scenario, such as your Celtics big three in 2008...On that note, what happened in 2009 and 2010?

I'm sure you might want to reconsider your thought processes while taking stances...

Happy Holidays!

Laker pride through ALL and ANY ADVERSITY!

What ever happened to 131-92, he was one of my favorites.

And then there was Red's love child, also a man of wisdom.

I think the Celtics are 21-4 and that is without Shaq and Rondo for many games. Whatever will they do when everyone is playing?

Jamie- by 'virtually' do you mean 'almost' or 'in a world which is virtual?'

what the heck does the word' virtual' come from anyway? Does it have to do with virtue? I'm gonna go look that up.

And everybody knows that 86% of statistics are made up on the spot. Also I figure most of these are going to be deleted anyway, as soon as the Times finds their moderator, wherever he went.

Ah;

"Vir·tue (vûrch)
n.
1.
a. Moral excellence and righteousness; goodness.
b. An example or kind of moral excellence: the virtue of patience.
2. Chastity, especially in a woman.
3. A particularly efficacious, good, or beneficial quality; advantage: a plan with the virtue of being practical.
4. Effective force or power: believed in the virtue of prayer.
5. virtues Christianity The fifth of the nine orders of angels in medieval angelology.
6. Obsolete Manly courage; valor.
Idiom:
by/in virtue of
On the grounds or basis of; by reason of: well-off by virtue of a large inheritance.
[Middle English vertu, from Old French, from Latin virts, manliness, excellence, goodness, from vir, man; see w-ro- in Indo-European roots.]"

(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/virtue)

I don't get it either.

phred, I meant 'in a world which is virtual' since none of this is real and therefore only weighs as much as you choose to let it. But it doesn't matter, picking your nose, in these days, when we have Kleenex and everything...ghastly sir, simply ghastly.

Lets go Ls

You seem to be a man of good manners. But you are also foolish. What happens in one year is meaningless. You need to look at the long term. Yes, the Celtics have won one banner in the last 3 years. But that is because of injuries. If Perkins was playing in the 7th game last year the Celtics would have won. But now the Celtics are invincible.

They will lay waste to this overrated Lakers team. Your run is over sir.

Class Claaasss Claaaaaasssss
SHUT UP
thank you

Well class, we're closing in on midterms so I'd like to take this oppurtunity to once again go over the the postitives and negatives of your educational progress as we always do this time of year.

Little PJ
For the last few years I always seem to say the same thing to you at this time of year, so this should not surprise you. As teacher's assistant, should be more aware of what we're actually doing in the class on a day to day basis. That being said, I know that our students will be at their peak come Finals Week and that your tutoring skills will be the reason why.
Grade B+

Baby Kobe
My admiration for you seems to grow each school year. Other schools in our district try to minimize the standards you set but you refuse to let that distract you. A true valedictorian warrior.
Grade A+

Pauly,
You are indeed an enigma. Flashes of brilliance intertwined with glances of obtuseness. Regardless, you always seem to rebound from those purblind episodes. Grade A-

RonRon
If Pauly is an enigma, there is no word in the English dictionary that really describes your schoolwork. As I discovered last year when you aced your Final after stumbling through most of the school year's curriculum, I can only say that you totally proved wrong all predictions I had assumed. I won't make that mistake again.
Grade A

Little Odie
Your grades are in the top 95th percentile. I knew this was possible, just wasn't sure you could reach that potential before graduation. You still lose focus once in awhile, but I'm not complaining anymore.

Baby Bynum
One of these years you will have an acceptable attendance record. When you are not out being sick, you are an excellent student. Your sick-work turned-in was terrific but was late on numerous occasions
Grade I (incomplete)

Shanny
Most improved student. No one is more surprised than me. Congratulations.
Grade B+

Luke
Grade I (incomplete)


Transfer Students
Blakey, Barnsey, Theo, Smitty, Ebanks, Caracter
Coming to a new school, especially a school of such high academic standards is always a difficult situation. What I see is very promising. I'll wait till after midterms for a better read of your progess concerning your grades.
Grade I (incomplete)


Well Class that about does it, I want to...... What's that Little PJ?
I'm forgetting about Baby Fishy?
I keep thinking he went to graduate school, He's still in the class? Where is he? It seems I haven't seem him all year. Wait, I do remember seeing him once!

Well Baby Fishy, as always, your value to our class is immeasurable, truly the glue that keeps us together during the long school year, we can always count on.........

Class Claaasss Claaaaaasssss

WAKE UP
thank you

Did I mention that the lucky barstool is now 99-17?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

Art-Fl Laker Fan,

How are you doing? I'm sorry I was not able to answer immediately your post because of the Christmas rush and hush. I don't know whether it's jolly to go on blogging if all u read is full of hatred and egotism. It really remove the fun in blogging when ur afraid to give your opinions in the open, instead of brotherly love Laker fans, this site became the hub of Smart Alec like reading those pseudo analyst on BSPN great in writing never played basketball. I'm just curious why do people love to debate ad infinitum...if we just devote that quality time to something worthwhile perhaps, it would be more appreciated. Most of the bloggers I blog with in the past are now just readers no longer active participants because the blog is populated by petty quarrels and personal vendettas as though this is the real world we lived in. For God's sake, this is just a past time, shall we spend it in this manner?

Lakers are winning but not consistent enough to say we're better than our quality foes. Spurs and Mavs record in the last 10 games are generating attention and I believe they are the team to beat in the West, I've to qualify that statement, so far in December. If you want to gauge the Lakers just look at the body language of Gasol, essentially that's Lakers performance. He is good but not tough enough to go all the way, he seemed to be just coasting along in hurry to go to the airport and be home in Christmas. These guys seemed to ignore the economic of times that they are earning a thousand times better than so many people, yet as an entertainers they are not impressive enough to paid with so much money. That's how capitalism works, you are rewarded from what is provided to the market.

Perhaps, in so many posts this is what Ouchhhh was saying about Gassy, or the other participants in their belief that their spin should be read by all. However, his posts are given low rating due to personal insights or insults on bloggers. If I may suggest why don't we just give opinions and stop going against any blogger whether pro or con. Let your wife or relative preview what u just posted and if it doesn't pass their ratings then put it on your Word document, store it there for your own perusal. It is really a great disservice to all fans here to involve them on worthless debates of the past or in the future, in-fighting, name calling, blog thugs - just exchange emails and do the exercise among yourselves. Please be considerate to the feelings of others. That's my take.

Edwin- this is what I'm sayin.

Well said.

I'm not sure what it says about people that as soon as they have anonymity and can be and say whatever they want, they decide to try to hurt other people.

That's never been anything like what I want from this blog. I'm gonna say what I think we need; I'm sorry if I ever attacked anybody for anything they are or do.

On the other hand, I stubbornly retain the right to say that anyone's opinions themselves are incorrect or stupid.

If anyone wants a personal apology from me, post now, step right up and get it.

Everybody on here deserves respect. Sometimes people make bad choices, it doesn't make them bad people.

And yes, I have to be opportunistic and get this in right after Edwin's comment so he has a little context when he calls me preachy and hypocritical.

Sorry if that offends you Edwin, but you have said that. I don't take i personally, as I'm sure you meant that my statements sounded preachy and might not have conformed to my stated beliefs, rather than that I am preachy and hypocritical personally.

THE LOVE THINKS pHRED IS BEATING EVERYBODY WITH HIS HUMILITY AND REPENTANCE.

THE LOVE THINKS THAT YOU SHOULD DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

P.S.- none of this counts if you are admittedly blatantly trolling. I can forgive you, but I don't expect anything more out of you.

Oh, Edwin, I respectfully disagree with you about Gasol's body language. I think he is honestly tired and arguably not motivated in every game. I also saw him last spring in the Finals, and he was balls to the wall on every play and willing to give everything he had. He stayed tough and he was on the ball.

That's what I expect from him this next spring too, and as long as he isn't deliberately taking plays off, i'm fine with him pacing himself.

In a marathon, you don't sit around the five mile marker and judge a runner's effort. It doesn't really help. The runner has done this before, the runner knows when he or she has to give everything she or he has. They know they have 26 miles to go. Pau knows we have until June to play.

well, 21 miles to go, if they are at the five mile mark. 26 miles total, I mean.


Shannon Brown - Frodo

Kobe - Aragorn

Phil Jackson - Gandalf

Fisher - Gimli

Matt Barnes - Legolas

Pau Gasol - Treebeard

and the celtics are the Orcs

Some posts have been removed. A couple of commenters' IP addresses banned. I hope I got all the offensive comments pulled down (forgive me if I missed any), although I didn't pull down all the chippy posts from earlier tonight since there is some credible back-and-forth banter that is palpable. Some of the thread might no longer be linear, though, because of missing comments.

Jon K, you crack me up. At least I fooled my mom and the LAT into thinking I turned out OK. That's all that matters. Hah!

Edwin,

Interesting commentary.

Here's my view of the blog.

The blog is like a play.
The Director provides a subject matter for the participants but they are free to ignore it or build upon it.
Anyone who wishes to participate is able to play a role of their choosing and have as many lines as they want.

It is a microcosm of real life. Some like to cast themselves as villains, and real life has many of those so it isn't a surprise that it occurs here.
Others like to be good citizens, some display more versatility than others, some show an expertise in certain ares.

Occasionally, when there is a break in the main subject matter of the story, the spotlight veers off center stage and and moves to the side where others engage in confrontational accusations or some comic relief.

As the story resumes and the spot light moves back to the center, some of the actors on the side of the stage refuse to leave and the spot light will shift back and forth rapidly, confusing the story and creating frustration for some in the audience, amusement for others.

The participants move back and forth between being in the audience and then coming up on stage to play a role for a while.

Occasional applause breaks out to acknowledge special performances and sometimes the boo birds raise the heads and squawk in alarm.

It's a play where the curtain only falls to separate acts, and quickly rises again to continue the show, but is otherwise never ending.

Over time, some actors will leave and new one's will take their place and the same process occurs in the audience.

So if you want to watch, watch. If you want a role, take one.
It's everyone that makes this place what it is, for better or for worse, in sickness and health, in times of joy and times of sorrow, in times of sickness and in health...
Oops, better stop here before we are all married to each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtEZMzWS68Q

Amigos, amigos, amigos...as the in-famous El Guapo once observed, "Who ARE these guys?" We have certainly been seeing a plethora of pugnacious, putrefactious posters lately. Stop. Santa Popo must be missing more than it's share of village idiots. Stop. Will wire 10,000 Lucky Day Laker Pesos to Mark Medina to return and vanquish said PPPPs forever. Stop.

Because...wherever there is blog injustice, you will find us. Wherever there is green-oozing Celtic slime, we'll be there. And wherever there are Kobe-hating, Bynum-bashing, DFish-dissing, Pau-pussifying, Luuuuke-nuuuuking trolls terminally obsessed with trying to trample the triumphant terrain of Laker blogdom, we'll be there...

Because...we are...the LAKER AMIGOS! LET'S RIDE!!!

Nice to see all the Boston fans feeling good about life. I look forward to June, hoping their very old team holds together long enough to beat Miami, so the Lakers can get their three-peat in the home of the leprchaun.

Paula talking about drama....now there's someone that knows drama.

???????????????????????

The blog is like a play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtEZMzWS68Q

Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | December 18, 2010 at 03:58 AM

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Art - I think I understand what you're saying.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bwZSyGHqJQ

Good Morning Everyone,
I for one, am happy to be a Lakers fan. Can't think of another team that even comes a close second. It's good to see the team coming together in this road trip. We will continue to have growing pains this season, but the finish product, come playoff time, should be of superior quality. I'm glad that we have this medium to share our opinions and points of view. Even if I don't agree with everyone, I try to do it respectfully or with some humor. Hopefully the championship will bring us all together, just like it did last year (laughs). Have a great day.

Sister Mary Elephant

long time no see. nice grades

did i mention that Kobe Bean Bryant is beyond grade. even in the NBA? not only on the Lakers?

what do you think of the below paper/home work?

Kobe- B-
Gasol- B+
Odom- A
Brown- A-
Blake- B-
Barnes- B+

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | December 17, 2010 at 09:17 PM

i guess we can pass the student. at least he finished a complete assignement. D? D+? C-?

but i will defer to … you Sister.

@63 Footer – Thanks for posting the info on Capt Beefheart passing. Prayers go out to his family and loved ones. His music will live on forever…and I need to listen to more of it. He definitely marched to his own beat.

may he rest in peace.

I understand why Celtic fans are so excited. They've won 12 in a row and have the second best record in the league at 21-4.

They're winning despite Jermaine O'neal and Delonte West missing the bulk of the season, Shaq missing several games, Rondo missing 5 or 6 games and Perkins has yet to play.


KG is playing better than last year and showing a lot more mobility.


So yes I understand why they're getting a little giddy in Beantown. However, once Boston play the Lakers they'll find that despite their off season moves to beef up in the middle to matchup ---- losing Tony Allen could be the move that will doom them against the Lakers. Who do they have to help slow Kobe down now?

I have a question that Bresnahan did not answer yesterday.


Both Matt Barnes and Shannon Brown have player options at the end of the year, can the Lakers offer them contract extensions before the year is over. I know The Lakers own the Bird rights to Shannon and can match another teams offer, but wouldn't be wise to extend them know if they are keepers and save the offseason drama?

Laker J,

Nice post. Though some get down on the Lakers from time to time, it's just because there are such high expectations, probably even unrealistic expectations.
We have been so spoiled by success but it's a nice problem to have.
Imagine if the Clippers were the only LA team.
The Lakers are the awesomest!!

LRpb,

Nice, wonder which of The Fantastic Four came first, those guys or the super heroes!

Thanks LRob,
You are so right about the Celtics fans. This season has made up for losing last year in the finals. So far, it has provided them with hope they didn't think they had. They are giddy and excited.
The Lakers on the other hand, are doing what they always do. Great some days, not so great other days. All the while keeping their gaze on the finish line and improving as a team. No need to panic or get too excited yet, but they'll be ready to dance once the playoffs are here!

Laker J,

Good Morning.

you wrote: Both Matt Barnes and Shannon Brown have player options at the end of the year, can the Lakers offer them contract extensions before the year is over. I know The Lakers own the Bird rights to Shannon and can match another teams offer, but wouldn't be wise to extend them know if they are keepers and save the offseason drama?

my response:

So ... we're less than a 1/3 of the way through the season. The Lakers have
made a number of bad contracts ... Luke, Sasha, Bynum ...

With the highest payroll in the NBA, uncertainty about the contract b/n the
the NBA & players & uncertainty about winning a championship .... Why
would you agree to a contract that will cost you millions?

I appreciate the business acumen that the Lakers showed in moving Sasha's
contract. I'm sorry to see Sasha go. Given the uncertainty about Bynum
& the less than spectacular play by Gasol ... *I* would wait before I signed
any long term contracts ...

Wouldn't you be mad if you be mad if you signed a player to a long term
contract and they became lackadaisical ?

hobbitmage,
Thanks for the response. First, I was wondering if it was possible at all. Second, I wouldn't advocate high dollar/long term contracts, but something reasonable. I do think that based on what Shannon and Matt have shown so far, and throughout their careers, that they wouldn't become lackadaisical. But you are right, it's no guarantee.
Incidentally, the Lakers now have the second highest payroll behind Orlando thanks to Sasha. The contracts that are the bigger financial burden to the Lakers are Luke's and Bynum's contracts in my opinion.

go lakers

shannon is declining. inconsistent.

P.S. My original question was "before the year is over" not 1/3 into the season. Just for clarification.

L.M. - yeah, the Captain was somethin' else. Interesting guy with an interesting life. Some important music (like Zappa and Colonel Bruce). I was listening to him all yesterday. My brain hurts.

I think Blaker is being given too low a grade. He's doing exactly what we want of him. B for Blaker. When he shoots a little more, he can move up to B+. If he starts draining the 3's, A-!

@MVP – Very fair grading system. I can go with all of them, except I’d probably drop Shannon to a B. LO is the only one deserving of an A. What about Phil? I’d give him a B- thus far.

Posted by: LRob | December 17, 2010 at 10:08 PM
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I must defer Phil's grade until the very end. And I'm not talking about the practice season.

Here's what Joe Smith observed about the team on Twitter:

JoeBeast95: "Good win 2nite 4 @Lakers!!! I love the attitude & swag of the whole team.#Yessiirr..."

Ah-ha! Joe Smith is a true beast! Just look at his twitter handle!

I'm glad he's enjoying the team attitude. We don't really get much of a chance to get an "inside" view of the true Lakers inside the locker room, but these little windows via the new players and rooks is always welcome. You never hear Kobe talkin' about it! :)

Let's all reminisce last year's regular season....At the end of the regular season, the best team in the west were the Mavs, Spurs, and Magic and the champs was a 0.500 team....Then the playoff started--Mavs was taken out by the Spurs, Phoenix swept the Spurs and the magic almost got swept by the Celtics and the Kobe was not 100%....And then, who won? THE LAKERS WITH A BAD BENCH.....KOBE, PAU, RON, LAMAR AND FISH GOT TOGETHER AND PLAYED THEIR HEARTS OUT....ALL WALKING WOUNDED SOLDIERS.....And why aren't they playing their A game right now---bec they are careful not to get injured....They know how to play better Defense if not the best the defense, but they are saving that for the finals....
Jumpshoots won't win in the playoff...and that is what spurs, mav, celtics, miami and orlando has...Lakers has the 3 skilled big man, 3 best perimeter defender, nba best on Kobe and great spokeman on DFish, the best bench , and the greatest coach ever.....So, my message to the other team, enjoy the regular season......

Laker J
let's see how they react in a few serious games. and maybe in the playoffs.

looks like Shannon is back to earth and UPS delivers only parcel post. last night in an easy game he went 0-4. for the second time.

barnes, while having last night his second best game as a laker, after his perfect game, had a few games were he was also scoreless and also made a series of consecutive bad plays with turnovers, or even scrappy, his man was shooting lights out from the 3 point range.

during his tenure in orlando, he started weel, was a starter and in the playoffs, even if he started for a few games his minutes were reduced. one of the worst games came in the Boston series.

i'm sure that a professional environment like Lakers could help his play/game/mentality and that he is chalanged by it. does not mean anything yet.

both Shannon and Barnes WANTED to play for peanuts, just to be with the Lakers. if the Lakers 3-Peat, do you think they will OPT OUT? on the oposite, will wait another year. Shannon, especially with Monica now, do you think that he will want to go to a small market for more dollars????????

LakerJ - Yep Boston mindset is a little different than the Lakers not only because they haven't won it in two seasons, but also because of their age....this could be their last shot.

Alright, since it seems that the Blog is somewhat desolate, I'm going to propose a trade that I've been thinking about, maybe I won't get bashed to harshly, so here it goes.


Ron Artest for Michael Beasly and the rights to Ricky Rubio.
My reason: I like and appreciate Ron Ron as much as anyone, and know that he was a vital component to the championship, however, he continues to struggle with the offense and we now have Barnes that can defend effectively, albeit not as good.
The downside: Taking away a vital piece of a championship team and a defender that may win a playoff game by shutting down the opposition's best player.

The upside: A potential future go to guy in Beasly. A guy that seems to have turned things around even in Minnesota where they lack leadership and maturity. Building for the future with a prolific scorer and a potential point guard. Key word potential.
I will say that I like this trade more at the end of the season as oppose to now for the aforementioned reasons. Flame suit on!

ouchhhhh - Matty plays the way he plays. Sometime his shot is on, sometimes not. He hustles, always, and a lot of his game hinges on that hustle. He'll rush and make a few bad errors, but Kobe and Pau were doin' the TO thing much worse last night, so I'm not worried. Matt's a smart guy with GREAT court awareness. He also, along with Blake, likes to get the ball into the low-post (UPS, I'm talkin' to you!), which will help AB immensely as he comes along.

UPS, yeah, I expected him to come back to earth a little, but his improved shooting will do him well as the season progresses. He's a "confidence" player, and he still hasn't completely integrated his new repertoire, but that takes time.

I think the extra money from the Sasha trade was part of looking ahead to next year and those two, and partly in case something catastrophic happens (knock wood) this year.

ouchhhhhhh,
Good points, I do think that Barnes and Brown will look for bigger bucks even after a championship. It was rumored that SB was coveted by the NYK and the Bulls during the offseason. Not small markets. Toronto wanted Barnes fo more $$$$, but that deal fell through. It will be interesting to see what their mindsets are and what the Lakers are thinking.

@ Art - I'm pretty sure the Super Heroes were first...lol. The singing group wasn't formed until the mid-60's.

63Footer- Good observations. The key to alot of our "new" players are the veterans on the team and their experience. They counsel, guide, and lead by example, as in KB. I believe any player can improve (if they want to) with the Lakers.

Let's all reminisce last year's regular season....At the end of the regular season, the best team in the west were the Mavs, Spurs, and Magic and the champs was a 0.500 team....Then the playoff started--Mavs was taken out by the Spurs, Phoenix swept the Spurs and the magic almost got swept by the Celtics and the Kobe was not 100%....And then, who won? THE LAKERS WITH A BAD BENCH.....KOBE, PAU, RON, LAMAR AND FISH GOT TOGETHER AND PLAYED THEIR HEARTS OUT....ALL WALKING WOUNDED SOLDIERS.....And why aren't they playing their A game right now---bec they are careful not to get injured....They know how to play better Defense if not the best the defense, but they are saving that for the finals....
Jumpshoots won't win in the playoff...and that is what spurs, mav, celtics, miami and orlando has...Lakers has the 3 skilled big man, 3 best perimeter defender, nba best on Kobe and great spokeman on DFish, the best bench , and the greatest coach ever.....So, my message to the other team, enjoy the regular season......

Posted by: mdomingo | December 18, 2010 at 09:24 AM
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That is it in a nutshell, baybeeee!

Laker J - "I believe any player can improve (if they want to) with the Lakers. "

Yeah, that's always my greatest knock against Farmar, or anyone like him: if you can't get better and learn with the Lakers, then you're about something OTHER than the basketball. Just watching Kobe's workout has got to help. His shooting regimen. What about Fish's routine for staying in shape? Kareem anyone? Not to mention learning from Phil. Heck, I bet they could even turn ME into a player!

#4 - hahahahahahaha! That cracked me up.

Alright, since it seems that the Blog is somewhat desolate, I'm going to propose a trade that I've been thinking about, maybe I won't get bashed to harshly, so here it goes.

Posted by: Laker J | December 18, 2010 at 09:31 AM
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Interesting, but too risky. This Lakers team is built to win right now and Artest's lock down defense is vital. We are bound to face either Pierce or LeBron in the Finals (should we get there) and they will shred Barnes. I suppose we could slide Lamar over to the 3, but he doesn't move his feet quickly enough to be effective against those two defensively. Beasley is a scorer who doesn't seem to have much of a basketball IQ, an essential ingredient for the Lakers, past, present or future. I don't see him as a player to build around for the future. As for El Pistolo, my assessment of him is that he will be a bust in the NBA. Pete Maravich is my favorite college player of all-time and, while he put up big numbers in the NBA, his game didn't translate into being an NBA winner. I know he played on crappy teams, but the league wasn't ready for his style and he wasn't made for the league's style. Oh, and Ricky Rubio is no Pete Maravich.. In the final analysis, it's an interesting deal, but I would pass. They would have to throw in their 2011 #1 pick to make me even think about it.

63 - i wish UPS will learn some things from Barnes. i know that he wants to copy Kobe, but he is not and will never be at that level. But, he can be at Barnes level regarding moving, playing WITHOUT the ball and learn to be scrappy.

as much as i agree that he improved his shot immensly, his court awareness is still zilch. how many times we've seen a 3-1 fast break by the lakers with UPS dribbling the ball fast across the middle court JUST to have and emergency BREAK and being lost while the the opposite team got the chance to be back in a defensive position.

and maybe because they still have to learn defensive schemes (not UPS), both of them are helping UNNECESSARILY the post defender and they r both leaving their man to shoot open 3's. and on P&R, UPS is catastrophic. same with his defense of the baseline.

actually i'm really surprised that for such a fast player, and so athletic, he can be such a terrible defender. personally i believe that his BB IQ is not very high. and his decision making is terrible. a friend of mine who also watches college hoops, told me that Michigan had huge expectations from him and he did not delivered.

not surprised that he was the Pelegrin Falcon making nests on so many benches around the NBA. but as in the Ariza case, the Lakers system, and especially when having a KOBE that ONE can count ON in extreme bailout situations, players r more relaxed and play better. as soon as they leave, see ariza, they r back to normal. and ariza still has CP3, but looks like CP3 besides his PER it is not and will never be KOBE. or more exactly will never have kobe's mark/impact on the game.

888 - yeah, I'm with you on Rubio. He might do okay in the NBA, but not in a playoff situation where defense and body-ing up get raised. And Pete DID play on crappy teams (I don't think he did badly in the NBA at all), and Rubio isn't 1/10th the player the Pistol was.

Ron is such a fundamentally sound defensive player, that I think he works well, offense or no. That's what Matty's for, if we need hustle. I think Ron's shot will come back again, now that he's looking to post-up more and drive more. Him muscling on O is his strongest point.

#4- Classic.


KobeMVP888,
Tell me the real reason. You don't want a certain blogger (ricky) heralding two Spaniards and saying that Rubio is the next Magic Johnson, do you. I'm with you. Ha,ha. You do bring up good points. Oh, and I wasn't implying that the Lakers would build around Beasly. That's Bynum's role right now.

888 - yeah, I'm with you on Rubio. He might do okay in the NBA, but not in a playoff situation where defense and body-ing up get raised. And Pete DID play on crappy teams (I don't think he did badly in the NBA at all), and Rubio isn't 1/10th the player the Pistol was.

Ron is such a fundamentally sound defensive player, that I think he works well, offense or no. That's what Matty's for, if we need hustle. I think Ron's shot will come back again, now that he's looking to post-up more and drive more. Him muscling on O is his strongest point.

Posted by: 63 Footer | December 18, 2010 at 10:01 AM
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Very crappy teams and, no he didn't do bad. His most productive seasons were with awful teams, but I would have loved to see those teams do better so therefore his NBA career was somewhat of a disappointment to me. He was among the 50 greatest players ever when they rolled that thing out back in 1997. I am grateful to have watched him play.

KobeMVP888,
Tell me the real reason. You don't want a certain blogger (ricky) heralding two Spaniards and saying that Rubio is the next Magic Johnson, do you. I'm with you. Ha,ha. You do bring up good points. Oh, and I wasn't implying that the Lakers would build around Beasly. That's Bynum's role right now.

Posted by: Laker J | December 18, 2010 at 10:04 AM
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My post was THAT transparent? Darn! :)

Saw that you guys were commenting on Rubio...FYI, NBA TV has FC Barcelona on at noon.

And as for Pistol Pete, I never got watch him live, but he is the most skilled basketball player ever, bar none.

He (Pete) never had the requisite physical stature of a 'superiority' player (Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Dr. J, Bird) but he was the epitome of skill, guile, flair, and proficiency.

Ricky Rubio is fun, but he'll never be anywhere as skilled as Pistol Pete.

Saw that you guys were commenting on Rubio...FYI, NBA TV has FC Barcelona on at noon.

And as for Pistol Pete, I never got watch him live, but he is the most skilled basketball player ever, bar none.

He (Pete) never had the requisite physical stature of a 'superiority' player (Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Dr. J, Bird) but he was the epitome of skill, guile, flair, and proficiency.

Ricky Rubio is fun, but he'll never be anywhere as skilled as Pistol Pete.

Posted by: #4 | December 18, 2010 at 11:12 AM
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His father was worse than Marv Marinovich. No one put in more "basketball" time growing up than The Pistol. His weakness (if three was one) was on defense, but even there he was quick and got a lot of steals. Watching Rubio play gives me goose pimples just because he looks like Pistol Pete and his game resembles Pistol Pete's. For your viewing enjoyment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y5KAaercTI

When Kobe retires. If you had to pick a player not named LeBron, Carmelo, or Durant, to build around who would it be? Let's assume that Bynum will be the prolific starting center for the Lakers.....or not.

I'd just like to point out that the lucky barstool is now 99-17.

I honestly think that Dr. Jerry Buss either needs to buy this bar (Kepner's in Hudson, Ohio--it's the most successful bar in town, it's a money-making proposition) and staff it with Lakeraholics OR Dr. Jerry Buss needs to buy this bar, ship it piecemeal to Los Angeles and fill it with Lakeraholics.

It's the only logical course of action, really.

I mean, we do want Kobe to retire with more rings than Bill Russell, right?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Shannon Brown will opt out, get a little raise and re-sign with the Lakers.

Sure he might get more coins elsewhere, but where else is going to get the job title of "Backup for Kobe Bryant".

He's also going to stay because Kobe will ask him to.

KobeMVP, agree with your assessment. Know those Pistol youtubes pretty well. Luckily, I had an HS basketball coach that grew up idolizing him, so I got to watch a lot his videotapes growing up.

Rubio excites me too, as did Jason Williams. Pistol's flair for the game live on. I do agree that Rubio and Pete as well, have a knack for getting steals, but in they aren't Ron Artest/Michael Cooper type stoppers. At least in my opinion, Rubio and Pistol are good at anticipating offense because they themselves are good at offense.

My only reason for saying no nears Pete is because the way the NBA is driven or marketed is by what is most recent or has the most potential. People forget that there were greats in the past. Just because their videos were in black and white or were grainy doesn't mean they aren't good by today's standards.

According to ESPN...

The Orlando Magic, already in serious trade talks with the Washington Wizards about acquiring Gilbert Arenas, have agreed to a deal in principle with the Phoenix Suns, according to league sources. The trade returns former Magic star Hedo Turkoglu, along with Jason Richardson and Earl Clark, to Orlando in exchange for Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round pick and cash considerations.


If Magic can bring Arenas also, and he can play as well as before last season, the Magic could be real threat to the Celtics and the Heat in the East this season:
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Chris Broussard: Washington deal with Orlando is close and will be Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas straight up, sources say...

wow, in one fell swoop, the Magic could (on Paper) suddenly be serious contenders to beat the Celts or Meat....all i gotta say is this: Whoever comes out of the East is not going to be 100% healthy when the Finals roll around. Look out for hard fouls from Howard, Forearm Chops from Garnet, and D-Wade injurying himself in some way shape or form this upcoming playoffs season

The Magic have shifted the balance of power in the East...as long as all the talent moves there you could really see us winning the West for the next 4-5 years. But, hey Arenas, Turk, and J-Rich all with Dwight Howard? The Celtics and Heat have some real competition now. Arenas gives them a totally new dynamic with penetration and creative shot-making, and Turkoglu played really well there. J-Rich is a true dark-horse though, he is having a great year.

Saw the Magic trades, they should be serious contenders......in the East.

Shannon Brown is just a role player and a good 1 or 2 in the 2nd unit. However, because of his upside performance in the perimeter, fans expect him to be always at its best. He has some problems in play making on what to do with the ball and tries to implement the triangle to the letter. I think Blake and Barnes have made some headway by incorporating the triangle but still go with their style of going to the hoop first, then find the open man. It means that you have a plan when you have the ball not just going with the fundamentals that are telegraphed to opponents. Most T/O's comes from blind passing or failure to communicate or trying to things in great haste. I think Lakers should try to manage those errors, go back to what was working in Indiana read and react, go for the open man.

We want to see the new Laker, Joe Smith in the next game. Being a veteran, he could easily blend with his contemporaries, however if he tries to much in memorizing the triangle positioning to the letter, then it would really take some time before he get adjusted to plays. He could also become retarded being an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Triangle was introduced in order to create openings through double teams and helping the post player to get out of congestion. It is not a strategy that will automatically score a point, it's still depend a lot on the basketball skills of the player. You can have the IQ of Luke but if you can't evade your guard, hide the ball with the ability to put that ball inside the ring, how can u ever score? Simplicity is beauty but adding creativity in your job is professionalism

When does Joe Smith join team/play?

I agree TNT Laker fan, talent is shifted back to Orlando. It may take several games before they could tune with each other however the reunification of Hedo, Dwight and Nelson was a magnificent move. Now try to imagine J. Richardson and a healthy head Arenas plus J. Reddick as PG that's a lot firepower. This is not just a jump shooting team like the Heat or convergence of old superstars in Celtics but a great team both inside and out.

Poor Nash of Suns, he is always adjusting to new experiment from Hedo to Vincesanity full of grace without guts. Good exchange for Arenas and Lewis, both are sleepers with huge contracts. This new landscape could motivate them to work harder.

Lakers swap for Nash?? I know it couldn't work, but wow!

I'm kind of curious to see who the Magic will start at the 4, if the ship Lewis for Arenas? I agree it's a big trade, but I'm not sure if it's that big of a power shit if they are giving up Lewis.

I wondered why Kobe wasn't very aggressive last night. The finger splains that.

Getting Hedo and J-Rich for Vince is a good move, but I don't think it makes Orlando a serious contender with Boston and Miami. Losing Gortat in the trade isn't a small loss either.

And Arenas isn't the same player he was a few years back when he was a scoring machine. After a few knee surgeries, he lost that explosive first step. The Orlando roster clearly needed to be shaken up, but these moves only make them marginally better.

oops, that should be "shift" in the 2nd line.

Can you edit that for me Dan, lol. My bad.

Ty

Mark G.,

Lewis was not known to be a good power forward in defense but more of a streak shooter. Magic has Brandon Bass with big body, Malik Allen or Ryan Anderson. Since they included Gortat in the trade, they could go get another C from D'League or free agency who would replace Dwight.

The Magic will start Brandon Bass at PF Hedo at SF and J Rich at SG. I'm sure Arenas will come off the bench. My guess anyway.

Edwin Gueco, excellent points about Joe Smith's skill-set, and the Magic taking time to mesh. The only weak-point they have on paper now is a back-up center. But that can be obtained through a signing or maybe they will go small with Ryan Andersen. All in all, gotta give props to Otis Smith. He may be the 2nd best GM in the league (Mitch of course being the 1st).

Seems like all the Celtics trolls now moved to the Magic Blog....LOL

Laker J,

That is the danger in that move, I hope the swell headed, gun-toting Gilbert will give way for the good of the team. If he tries to insist of being a starter under the new team, then this will be a long season for StanVan Gundy. He will again hve a hoarse voice just being a referee of his own players. huh! Granted that Arenas is coming from injury but if he could maintain 17 ppg as a sub based on his average now he could really help the Magic. When healthy, this player could take game under his own power.

Another scenario, now that Orlando became better, Shaq might want to go back to his old team in as much he's always injured with the Celtics.

 
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