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THE ENTIRE LAKERS 5 STARTERS FOR ALL-STAR TEAM - BANDWAGON
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(01) JEFE101 - OWNER - had a perfect dream last night - Kobe, Fish, Pau, Lamar and Bynum all
getting voted-in, by the fans, to start the 2011 NBA All-Star Game at Staples on February 20th,
with Phil coaching the game. I mean, c'mon, wouldn't it be perfect? C'mon, it'd be the best
All-Star Game ever - who's with me on this? For this to happen, a earth-moving size bandwagon
would likely be required.
(02) FAN OF THE MAMBA24 - DRIVER - I'm with you Jefe101!!
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN - As am I!!!
(04) #4 As am I!!!
(05) MAMBA24 - You know I am!!
(06) LAKERLASS - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(07) SEGEBOY - THE SHERRIFF
(08) ADRIAN PALOMAR
(09) D(EREK) J(ETER)
(10) CYBER COSMIX
(11) NEWMEXICOLL -

There are 2 things that one can count on besides death & taxes:

1. Ricky drooling over Pau
2. Bynum supporters drooling over Bynum.
[ notice I didn't mention any names. ]

A rational person would ask: Does your competition matter? If so, why
get excited about thumping the GS Warriors? The implications should
be obvious to all native English speakers. [ Once again, notice my
delicacy. :) ]

Here's an example:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/11/21/20101121phoenix-suns-defense-sinking-nba.html

snippet:
The Charlotte Bobcats made plenty of shots during Saturday's 123-105 victory against the Suns and took one more after the game, when Gerald Wallace was asked how hard it was for teammate Stephen Jackson to record the franchise's first triple-double.

"Against Phoenix, not that hard." Wallace said.

And for those that care, I just picked up a nifty set of ironwood escrima
sticks. Pain is the coin of the realm & I am a rich man. I have so much to
share. *chuckle*

Hey Hobbit, you are O.K.???? I hope.

Well, you think now Pau is the best Laker all time beside Magic??

No, excuse me, I make a mistake, hobbit, my real question is: YOu think now Pau is the best laker all time ahead Magic?

Hey Hobbit, you are O.K.???? I hope.

Well, you think now Pau is the best Laker all time beside Magic??

Posted by: ricky | November 22, 2010 at 08:41 AM
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I don't think you get the sarcasm.....

I think 73 wins are very possible this season. Not that the Lakers are pursuing it, but it could be just by-product of playing so well. If they go like 20-3 or 30-4, the Lakers players may start think about it on back of their minds. Then it could make the Lakers players to play in consistently high energy level throughout the season, and it also gives the (new and hungry) 2nd unit the motivation to play even harder. And it probably would not reqire much PT for the starters, so why not go for it? It will also give them "invincible" image to the rest of the league.

What I like about the team so far, is that they are keeping things in perspective. When they loss two in a row, and Kobe said the fans will get over it, I believe he was speaking more about the attitude of the team than that of the fans. After this blow out win and fourth in a row, they are not boastful nor overconfident. Barnes and Gasol had perfect statistical games and are level headed in their postgame interviews. They appear to be in tune with one another as players, and are displaying excellent team chemistry on the floor even when they are down. This is a sign of a mature team, a team where the leadership pieces are in place and a team that is completely focused on winning the championship. All the other accomplishments that happen along the way will take a back seat to raising the Larry O'Brien trophy.

Ricky got a question for you are you awake or asleep and day dreaming??????

My question for Ricky is this: where were you when Darko made Pau look like a piece of freshly cut tissue paper? I'm all for giving Pau major props for his "perfect" game, but your single minded obsession with the big guy makes me think that you're like that psycho fan from Blades of Glory going after Jimmy McElroy. Pau is a great great player in a system that allows him to use his mind as well as his physical attributes. He's a smart, Versatile, eloquent, responsible, and dedicated. He may not be there yet, but he will be one of the great lakers when it's all said and done.

Here's where I take issue with all of your post regarding Pau. You DISRESPECT the greatness that came before Pau. Pau has yet to earn the right to be named in the same breath as the Legends on this team ( though I believe, when it's all said and done, ge will have earned that right). That being said, I understand you are a Pau fan, I get it, but when you disrespect the history of this team and the legends who played for it by stating such ridiculous and downright offensive dribble, it just makes me label you a troll to be treated as such.

PS. I'm glad you post on this blog, but interact with the people and explain your position, don't just try to outpost everyone with your psycho Pau love. It gets old fast buddy....

They appear to be in tune with one another as players, and are displaying excellent team chemistry on the floor even when they are down. This is a sign of a mature team, a team where the leadership pieces are in place and a team that is completely focused on winning the championship. All the other accomplishments that happen along the way will take a back seat to raising the Larry O'Brien trophy. Posted by: Laker J | November 22, 2010 at 08:59 AM
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But of course I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cap´s Googgles,

I don´t Know why you think I have Disrespect to the Lakers legends???? I think simply Pau is the best Laker all time. Where is my disrecpect????? You probably think Magic, Kareem and others are the best Lakers all time and I cant think that you are disrespecttfull (i dont know this word is correct). Here everyone had is opinion about every player, and that is not speak whit this disrespect you said.

With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due to freak accident.

Wish Fr. Utz (non-denomination) will be available to compose a prayer and bandwagon from Mamba24 after the roll call.

ricky - I'm not going to get into subjective calls on who you think is great or not, but you've twice said that Kareem only had one shot, the Skyhook, and that's a disservice to one of the greatest offense skillsets ever. Trained by Coach Wooden at a time dunks weren't allowed, Kareem had every shot Pau had (go check the tapes) PLUS the Skyhook, which was not his ONLY shot, but the shot ONLY HE could really do. In fact, how many players have a shot so deadly and unique that they are equated with it?

Kareem had low-post, high-post, and was madly skilled on defense as well. Plus, despite his lanky body-type, he could bang underneath, and could rebound with the best of them. As LRob has shown, his battles with Wilt were epic.

So, don't say Kareem only had one shot, that is incorrect.

Wow!!!!Talk about BBBBUZZ KILL or road kill, we have something VERY SPECIAL here Lakerholic's!!! Enjoy this Journey,and so happy THE B'S BROTHER"S decided to take their talants to L.A. Next up ,the Bulls.

Edwin, I'm not into the whole "prayer" thing here (thinking there are more important uses of that conduit of communication), but that child's death was tragic, and for his parents and family, I pass on all gentle thoughts and prayers to them.

ricky = Escarpia

[dbdh]

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PRAY FOR THE FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES - BANDWAGON
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(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.
(03) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – RIP to the little boy who fell. That is really sad.
(04) ADRIAN PALOMAR - Sad to know about a little kid who fall and died after the game last night,my prayers and condolence to the family...
(05) KB BLITZ - Btw there has a been report of a boy of who fell down from one of the luxury suites of Staples Center down into lower level sections. Prayers to him.
(06) CALIPHILOSOPHER - I just read about that. My prayers are with him and his family.
(07) CYBERCOSMIX - Awww man... If we ever needed an Utz prayer, now would be it. I second
Cali, prayers to the little guy and his family...
(08) 63 FOOTER - that child's death was tragic, and for his parents and family, I pass on all gentle
thoughts and prayers to them.
(09) MAMBA24 – My prayers go out for the soul of the Child and the bereaved Parents.
(10)

My heart and prayers go out to the Tang family for the loss of their precious son.

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PRAY FOR THE FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES - BANDWAGON
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(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.
(03) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – RIP to the little boy who fell. That is really sad.


(10) LROB - My heart and prayers go out to the Tang family for the loss of their precious son.

63 footer.

Kareem was a great player, great really, but his superpower was the "Skyhook", a really really superpower, belive me. That said, I think Kareem was not a good rebounder or defender (the same than Pau) and his jumpshoots was not in the same Pau´s level (I can remember perfectly the Kareem jumpshoots). Obviously, IN MY OPINION, MAN, Kareem has not fadeways like Pau and never, never he can play PF position. Pau can play PF/C both perfectly and this become Pau better player than Kareem. This meant Kareem is a bad player??? NO. I doubt about the greatness of Kareem in the Lakers history??? NO.

63 Footer:

In terms of BB Skills, that is my Lakers "Bigs" ranking:

Pau
Kareem
Willt

Shaq.

In years past, we often played down to the level of the competition, but always were motivated to play well against a quality opponent. As everyone has been saying, the Bulls game will be a good measuring stick. That being said, the Lakers lost many "measuring stick" games last season (2 to the cavs, 3 to the nuggets, few each to the suns, blazers, mavs, 1 each to boston and orlando) and still won the championship.

This year, the Lakers do not seem to be discounting inferior opponents as much and that is why I think this regular season could be epic (nobody wants a piece of teh 80-2 bandwagon, huh?). I'm interested to see how they do in games against quality opponents, but last year hammers in the lesson that even if they lose against good opponents, all this is still the PRACTICE season.

Throwing my two bits in on this whole Gasol vs Abdul Jabbar thing. Comparing Gasol to Kareem is like comparing Sheldon Williams to Kevin Garnett (alright, that's a little severe, but I'm trying to make a point).


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the All Time NBA leading scorer. That doesn't happen because you have one shot in your arsenal. That doesn't happen because you're simply physically gifted or luck into an offensive rebound here or there. It happens because you dedicate yourself to your craft. It happens because he played at a high level into his 40s. It happens because his focus and preparation is among the best the NBA will ever see. But don't believe me, here's some links to Pau and Kareem's career stats:

Pau
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pau_gasol/career_stats.html

Kareem
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html


When Pau averages over 30 ppg...for a whole season...more than once, let's re-visit this topic, eh?


Let's not do a disservice to the greatest NBA player of all time by comparing him to someone who has been in the league half as long, if Pau plays until he's 40, I'll be surprised.


Pau Gasol is a great player, possibly the best foreign player to play in the NBA, to date, and is a major piece of our team. He's no Cap, though.

Thank you Mamba24.

63 footer, our prayer will be a sincere one not the ordinary prayers in wishing for a victory. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess that's this is the only way of universal communication to effectively reach them as we share our sentiments as fellow Laker fans.

I'm interested to see how they do in games against quality opponents, but last year hammers in the lesson that even if they lose against good opponents, all this is still the PRACTICE season. Posted by: LakerFanInCowTown | November 22, 2010 at 09:48 AM
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Did you say PRACTICE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJDRgVwcP8

Erratum it should read this way: I guess this is the only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family.

@ricky - Man, you really like Pau I guess, did you ever actually watch Kareem play? Are you basing this opinion on the 38 year old Kareem? Hey, it's your opinion...I'm just gonna disagree is all.


It speaks to the greatness of this Laker team that this is the topic we have to bandy about after a blow out win over a mediocre team. Something that was, strangely, in short supply last season. I welcome all strange debate in the face of un-warranted criticism of a win that was as close to flawless as we've seen for some time.

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PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES - BANDWAGON
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(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess that's this is the only way of universal communication to effectively reach them as we share our sentiments as fellow Laker fans.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.
(03) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – RIP to the little boy who fell. That is really sad


(10) LROB - My heart and prayers go out to the Tang family for the loss of their precious son.


That poor child. As sad as it gets.

Hmmm.


I'm so inspired by Ricky's love for all things Gasol, that I have ebullient, bad poetry forming in my mind.


Here we go:


Ricky, Ricky, Ricky,
Your mind is playing tricky
You love Gasol and that is all
It's made me kind of sicky.


Thank you! Hold the applause!


I'd hate to see what happens to Ricky's mind if we traded for Rubio. I see visions of submarines imploding...


Wes

Ricky - Kareem AVERAGED more rebounds in an exceptionally long career than Pau had in his best season. So Kareem not a good rebounder? Than Pau must suck according to your own scale. And not a good defensive player? Kareem made All-Defensive 1st & 2nd team all the way up to the 84 season (that was his first 14 years in the league). Pau? Never. Ever. Again, if a player who was All-Defensive team his first 14 years is "not a good defensive player" what does that make Pau who has never been on the All-Defensive team?

Ricky, love your enthusiasm for a great player, but again: be correct. You've said Kareem had only one shot. Wrong. You've said he wasn't a good rebounder, wrong (and waaaay better than Pau). You've said he wasn't good on defense. Wrong. (And again, better than Pau.) At least get it right.

Jaime Dulce (Jamie Sweet)

Kareem played into his 40s. That is the Key. Pau want not to play into his 35. He want to play in Barcelona at the end his career. I think he will stay in Lakerland 2-3 more years.

I can remember perfectly the Kareem´s skills, and his stats is b/c he play alongside the best point guard all time. Pau should play with D-Fish, Brown´s, Farmars, Vujacics and right now Blake (I think he´s really good) You could imagine Pau playing with Magic??????? Kobe is not Magic if you think for a moment he is.

Edwin - I was with you on this tragedy being something that all prayers and kind thought should be directed towards. Even someone like myself who doesn't join in the normal "Go Lakers!" prayers (not against 'em, just not my cup o' tea to join).

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PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES - BANDWAGON
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog
will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess this is the
only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family. as fellow Laker fans.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.
(03) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – RIP to the little boy who fell. That is really sad


(10) LROB - My heart and prayers go out to the Tang family for the loss of their precious son.
(11) VMAN - That poor child. As sad as it gets.


meant to post this is the most current thread...

Couple thoughts:

1. Stop the madness, Pau is a great player, a great teammate and a key ingredient for this current Lakers' GOLDEN AGE. Is he at Cap or Wilt's level? First, who cares? he is pretty much exactly who we need him to be. If you put a gun to my head and demand an answer, I'd say "no," because he is average on defense from both a one on one and team defense perspective.

2. I've watched every Lakers game this season and a few non-Lakers games as well. It appears the league made a conscious decision to let the players bang around a bit more than in the previous few seasons. If so, it's a good thing. Is that just my perception or do others see the same thing?

3. At times, I enjoy watching the killer B's play as much as I do the starters. When Lamar joins them, if they had a big body in the number 5 spot, they could be a 7 or 8 seed in the western conference or a 6 or 7 seed in the east. When Luke or Sasha are out there - doesn't matter if its trash time or not, more often than not, I'm cringing.

4. Shannon is making just 4 million total over the next two seasons. He can opt out at the end of this year which he surely will. Right now he is playing like someone who should earn 7 to 9 mill a year. If he pays at 75% of the current clip he is playing at, the Lakers will have a hard time holding on to him unless we are willing to go deep into our pockets. If this is simply how Shannon will be from here on out, some team will make him an offer he can't responsibly refuse. It's so maddening that we pay Luke and Sasha tons of cash to warm the bench and make the occasional "high IQ" pass (or just jack up a wild shot in Sasha's case).

5. I wonder how Bynum will be re-incorporated into the line-up. Who loses minutes? Clearly Lamar. Who else? I'm both excited about the prospect of his return because the road to the championship goes through Bynum-ville, but wary of the possibility that his presence changes or somehow disrupts the awesome dynamic that is in place at the moment.

6. Caracter is raw, but worth the investment. He has a long way to go and is certainly not in synch with the lakers offensive and defensive schemes yet, but I think he is a good project. He has traveled or had a 3 in the key about 6 times over the last two games. Not good. He has some quick moves and decent hustle. Ebanks has a TON of upside as far as I can tell. He has to work on his stroke. Maybe Shannon and Kobe can teach him a few things over the next year.

7. Can't wait for this team to be tested. It's fun beating up on teams we own, but more interesting will be the games against teams that think they can compete with our squad. Make no mistake, some of those teams will hang losses on us. One thing is certain though, this team won;t be conceding those losses without a fight.

8. This Lakers team...It feels like THIS is the team we've been waiting for. Once Luke and Sasha are gone, we can improve by getting a real back-up center. Besides that though, the core 9 guys -- it feels like this is the team the Lakers have been trying to become for years now.

Don´t blame del Harris

Not, Escarpia is from Mallorca (Spain). I am from Barcelona (Spain). In this blog we can find some spaniards (Ganapia, Escarpia, Cibercosmix... and other that I can´t remember his names)

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. This Lakers team...It feels like THIS is the team we've been waiting for. Once Luke and Sasha are gone, we can improve by getting a real back-up center. Besides that though, the core 9 guys -- it feels like this is the team the Lakers have been trying to become for years now. Posted by: Dwntwn Atty | November 22, 2010 at 09:57 AM
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Yes, Yes, Yes!! I have to say it from 1 - 8 ...OUT FREAKIN STANDING ATTY!!!!!!!

Ricky I agree with you Pau is a great player but I doubt far from the great name that you mention.Your admiration to Pau was to great that it makes you look your detach to reality and having delusion of grandeur...

@ ricky,

38,387.


[dbdh]

Dwntwn Atty - very much agree with your points.

2. Yeah, it does generally look like the refs are letting them bang a little more. But I also think that they got together and agreed NEVER to call a foul when Kobe drives 9 out of 10 times. Or there was a memo. :)

3. I like Luke to run the offense, but he does look awful out there with the new bench. And Sasha, I feel for the guy, but he's "gotta get his mind right."

6. If Caracter keeps working, in a few years he's going to be very useful in a Big Baby kind of way. We'll see. Ebank's stroke comes and goes, but he's been working at it, and most agree that it's better than was expected coming out of college.

mamba - nice clip. Iverson will be remembered for 3 things:

1) That "Practice" tirade
2) Great scorer
3) Not willing to be a team player at the end of his career

Regarding the little dude who died. Truly heartbreaking. I hope he's in a better place and hope that his family has the support to get through such a terrible event.

A couple new nicknames for the non-killer B back ups:

Ebanks and Caracter: the Interns (come on, you know that's perfect!)

Sasha and Luke: the Outcasts (sad, but true)

I purpose a new game: The best "Phil" starting 5.

My pick is:

MJ
Kobe
Pippen
Pau
Shaq

@Ricky - Nope, never said (or thought) Magic was like Kobe, not too sure where that came from. KAreem was even more dominant in his youth in Milwaukee where he (single-handedly?) propelled them to their lone NBA championship.


Early in Magic's career, before he developed his herky-jerky jumper, The Captain was the focal point of the Laker offense, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. To say that Magic made Kareem better is still a disservice, in my mind. If anything, it's the other way around until 1986-87 when Magic was as much a threat to score off the dribble as he was to dish out an assist.


Nice attempt at mis-direction, but you were talking about Pau vs Kareem. Not 80s Lakers vs late 2000 Lakers. You weaken your already fragile argument by trying to throw other players into the mix for your comparison.


Kareem avergaged over 20 points/ game for 17 seasons straight, his production fell of after that...when he was 38 years old. Pau's done it three times in 12.


You want to compare skill sets, the only thing Pau's better at than Kareem is dribbling and free throw shooting. This is because he was originally a PG until he grew to his current height and he's just better at free throws. Kareem had a better drop step, better 20 foot jumper, was a better rebounder, defender and offensive force. The Lakers ran the offence through him for over 15 seasons. This is not my opinion, but fact.


Like 63 Footer said, love the enthusiasm and Pau's is one of the top 5 big men in the league today, but I would take Kareem or Karl Malone at the same age Pau is any day of the week.

Dwntwn Atty - I'm good with "The Interns." Sasha and Luke, "The Outcasts?" Maybe. How about... "The Traded?"

I kid, I kid!

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PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES – BANDWAGON
http://www.dailynews.com/ci_16675247?source=most_viewed
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(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog
will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess this is the
only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family. as fellow Laker fans.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.


(12) LAKERFANINCOWTOWN - Regarding the little dude who died. Truly heartbreaking. I hope he's
in a better place and hope that his family has the support to get through such a terrible event.

Ricky,

I used to post here all the time, but my life schedule has changed so much that I was forced to switch to lurker status. However, your moronic opinion, albeit one you have every right to, has forced me to surface from my retirement. In honor of WesJoeNixon's awesomely bad poem, I offer another bad poem as rebuttal to your insane belief that Pau is greater than Kareem:

Ricky, don't lose that number
to your local rehab unit
You really need to call them
They'll do their best to help you through it
They'll evaluate your brain
and try to understand your pain
When your 28 days are through
You shall be free, anew
to finally see
that not Pau but Kareem
shall be the greatest one to thee

PS If Kareem only had one shot, then every NBA coach should have been fired for being unable to figure out how to defend it for 20 years; you know, he's just the #1 scorer in NBA history. I love me that giant Spaniard, but he's a gnat to KAJ's mighty eagle!

mamba24

Thanks for the post. Bufffff, poor boy.

@ 63,

How 'bout the "Forgotten"?

Doh!

[dbdh]

My thoughts and Prayers go out to the Tang family, nothing more devestating than to lose a precious child.

I'm curious to see how the Laker's will handle Shannon Brown this summer if all goes according to plan (Shan-WOW continues to amaze, no injuries of note, and Lakers win Banner number 17). I think with Vujacic gone, Lakers will offer him a bigger contract - maybe 4 years/$16 million like Blake? He definitely could get more on the market, but we'll see if he chooses winning over greater playing time and responsibility. I never saw him as a Farmar type who wanted to spread his wings, but at the same time, you couldn't blame him if he got like a $7-8 million offer somewhere else. You only have limited time to get a big contract like that and you never know when you might get injured.

dbdh - if only! But Phil keeps putting them in, and it's hard to forget when Luke throws up a clanker (I know, he used to hit those, and he's just coming back, but it makes me cringe anyway), or Sasha's "me first, then me again first" attitude makes him shoot 7 seconds into the shot clock without running the offense.

Maybe we should call them the Un-dynamic Duo?


Lamar is quietly and consistently playing up to the potential the basketball world has waited for.

Sometimes the greatest move a GM can make is no move at all. With all the LO deals that were bounced around, Mitch, who's hand must be red from all the hi fives he's gettin' this year, deserves another one for staying the Lamar course.

Jamie Sweet,

well, we have many points of view. I cant remember Kareem playing in Milwaukee b/c my age, but in L.A., Kareem was criticed every game b/c his pourous defense and poor rebounding (i can remember this as child I was -8-) Karl Malone had the same Pau´s skills without his size. Malone cant play C, Pau can. Kareem cant play PF, Pau can. Pau Gasol, in my opinion, is the best big man b/c he can play perfectly high and low post. Kareem or Malone cant play PF position.

Ricky,

I don't know if you really believe Pau is better than Kareem on you're just craving a little attention. Anyway, since you're not listening to what everyone here is saying I thought you might appreciate what the great Bill Walton had to say about Kareem...


Walton: Without question, no hesitation, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the best player I ever played against. Not just the best center, he was the best player, period. He was better than Magic (Johnson), better than Larry, better than Michael (Jordan). He was my source of motivation. Everything I did was to try to beat this guy. I lived to play against him, and I played my best ball against him. No matter what I threw at him, though, it seemed like he'd score 50 against me. His left leg belongs in the Smithsonian. And it wasn't just offense. He was a great defender and rebounder, a great passer, a wonderful leader. He was phenomenal.

Tully Moxness

Sorry my friend, but my english is not enough to understand your poem, but thanks.

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PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES – BANDWAGON
http://www.dailynews.com/ci_16675247?source=most_viewed
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(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog
will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess this is the
only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family. as fellow Laker fans.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.


(13) RICKY - Poor boy
(14) NEWMEXICOLL - My thoughts and Prayers go out to the Tang family, nothing more devestating than to lose a precious child.

Thank you again for repeating the bandwagon with my "choppy sentences" that has been added. lol, i don't understand what I wrote.

With regards to our friend Ricky in Barcelona, do you still take him seriously on face value of his post? He replaced Mike T. as our blog jester, he's fun and provides the morning laughter. Tulley Moxness, we missed your posts and wisdom, I hope you find time to join our music, don't take Ricky seriously or else you'll suffer a real stroke if you believer his fascinating strokes on Pau.

Ricky - again, up until '84, Kareem was on the All-Defensive team every year (that's 9 years just as a Laker). He was NOT criticized for his porous defense (that's Pau you're thinking of, though I think he gets somewhat of a bum rap for that for varying reasons). His first year in LA Kareem averaged 16.9 RBG. That's not poor rebounding.

Now, if all you're remembering is Kareem's last quarter of his career, he was never bad on D, but his rebound did go down. But again: his CAREER NUMBER (and that's including all those final years) is still HIGHER than Pau's best season. Kareem was not a bad rebounder. He was no Wilt or Russell (partially because he played farther from the basket), but he was superior to Pau.

You may need to check your memory against the facts. I remember my elementary school being huge as a kid... but when I came back years later as an adult, it wasn't nearly as big.

A couple of things:

1. Welcome back Tully - you really should drop a line or 2 once in awhile...

2. Why - WHY - do you guys get into it with Ricky? Seriously. You're wasting your breath. And you're wearing out the letters on your keyboards for no good reason.

3. wes - AWESOMELY awful poem!! Horrific even!

4. I am deeply saddened by the death of this poor little boy. What a tragedy. I certainly hope it wasn't a case of neglect, as that would only magnify the horror of it all. RIP sweetie....


5. I'm losing it today.... started tearing up over a song while in the Starbucks drivethru.... yeesh.... But that's a conversation for another time & place....


justa - sorry, I lost my head. Won't happen again. So... what was the frickin' song? Inquiring minds want to know. And if you say Judy Collins' "Send in the Clowns," I just don't know what I'll do.

@mamba
Please add me to the prayer bus. This story really hits home with me because we were at the game last night. Originally I was planning on bringing our 2 year old, but later realized that it would be too difficult to keep one on on him and the other on the game. My family will be praying for the Tang family.

As for the game, this is what I've been waiting for all season. Yes, it was a blowout against the Warriors minus David Lee, but the whole team was into it from minute one, and the Killer Bees were making their presence felt on both ends!

A weird coincidence is that the boy's name was Lucas, and my son, whom we decided not to bring is Luke.

*_________________________________________________________________________*
PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES – BANDWAGON
http://www.dailynews.com/ci_16675247?source=most_viewed
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog
will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess this is the
only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family. as fellow Laker fans.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.


(14) NEWMEXICOLL - My thoughts and Prayers go out to the Tang family, nothing more devestating than to lose a precious child.
(15) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - I am deeply saddened by the death of this poor little boy. What a tragedy. I certainly hope it wasn't a case of neglect, as that would only magnify the horror of it all. RIP sweetie....
(16) MCLYNE - Please add me to the prayer bus. This story really hits home with me because we were
at the game last night. Originally I was planning on bringing our 2 year old, but later realized that it
would be too difficult to keep one on on him and the other on the game. My family will be praying
for the Tang family. A weird coincidence is that the boy's name was Lucas, and my son, whom we decided not to bring is Luke.

to Edwin Gueco


hahahahaah, thanks for your comments. Make me laught a lot. Well, you Know I want only to speak-write english whit you guys. I really think Pau is better player than Kareem or Wilt, but, well....... I accept others opinions.

To Justa.

Take it easy, bro. I think all your brains is O.K. You have guys good arguments vs. my thougts about Pau´s greatness. We can be good "blog friends". I can practice my english and you can have a "international point of view" without "Laker passion" Remember, I am a Pau´s Fan, not a Laker Fan.

63 footer

Thanks guy for your interaction with me today. I learn a lot about BB and obviously, english language. Maybe we can practice on the future, bro. You could be a very good teacher. What yoy think????

Best Regards from Barcelona. Sleep time for me.

Hey, Laker Amigos, I say we give ricky a break. It's hard to watch a total beatdown of one of our favorite Euro-cousins. I think we've made our point.

But I now want to jump in with both feet regarding the other beatdown going on...Luke and Sasha, as "The Outcasts". Yeah, I agree that right now they both look really bad. No, make that really, really, really bad. But if you'll notice, Phil (AKA greatest NBA coach ever) is pointedly working both of them in. In fact, he's even been rotating Luke in with several of the starters and not just in garbage time. That should tell you something. Namely, he still sees value in both of them, and he's trying to get them both ready for when he really needs them.

Contrary to popular opinion, it's not your stroke that is the first (and worst) thing that goes when you've been out a long time. It's your CONFIDENCE. And that's particularly true when all the new bench guys are smoking hot this time around. Sasha in particular is a head case right now about his demotion to the very end of the bench. Phil could (and would) easily sit both of them if he thought they were hopeless. He clearly doesn't. He thinks they both have something to contribute when he needs to call on them in the REAL season (June). I'm with him. They're not "Outcasts", they're "On Call Emergency Playoff Technician's".

Mamba 24,

You know my heart man. 5 Lakers on the all star team would be great.

I was very sadden to hear about the 2 year old boy, my prayers and sympathy go out to his mom and dad.

*_________________________________________________________________________*
PRAY FOR THE TANG FAMILY WHOSE CHILD DIED AT THE STAPLES – BANDWAGON
http://www.dailynews.com/ci_16675247?source=most_viewed
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) EDWIN GUECO – OWNER - With all this hooplah that "we are great", I do hope we can say a
prayer or extend a word of condolence to the parents of the 3 year old boy who died at the game due
to freak accident. We can't bring back time and preserve the boy's life, our sincere prayer in the blog
will be sort of a community prayer for the repose of his soul. (i.e. if soul really exist.) I guess this is the
only effective communication we can do to share our sentiments to the family. as fellow Laker fans. I'm doing our duties as Laker fans, that in time of tragedy we are all as one family.
(02) FRMKT – DRIVER - R.I.P. "Littlest" Laker Fan.
(03) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – RIP to the little boy who fell. That is really sad.
(04) ADRIAN PALOMAR - Sad to know about a little kid who fall and died after the game last night,my prayers and condolence to the family...
(05) KB BLITZ - Btw there has a been report of a boy of who fell down from one of the luxury suites of Staples Center down into lower level sections. Prayers to him.
(06) CALIPHILOSOPHER - I just read about that. My prayers are with him and his family.
(07) CYBERCOSMIX - Awww man... If we ever needed an Utz prayer, now would be it. I second
Cali, prayers to the little guy and his family... Edwin (& MM): This tragedy overshadowed anything that happened on the court last night. My condolences to the Tang family. Those luxury boxes can be dangerous if you let a little one climb around. The last game we all attended when my father was still alive was in a luxury box, the kids were 2 & 4 at that game. Of course they were climbing around everywhere, so I could definitely see how it could have happened. My mom and wife were more into the kids than the game, so they weren't losing sight of them. I have always been paranoid about sitting in the front row in the upper decks of stadiums, all it takes is losing your equilibrium, easy to do when you have a sheer drop inches away and a short metal bar keeping you from falling - especially though for taller people. But a little one doesn't know any better...Dangerous situation, I hope that others learn from this and watch, watch, watch! the little ones!!!! R.I.P. Littlest Laker
(08) 63 FOOTER - that child's death was tragic, and for his parents and family, I pass on all gentle
thoughts and prayers to them. I'll bow my head and think kind thoughts. I cannot think of a more
horrible thing to happen than losing a child.
(09) MAMBA24 – My prayers go out for the soul of the Child and the bereaved Parents.
(10) LROB - My heart and prayers go out to the Tang family for the loss of their precious son.
(11) VMAN - That poor child. As sad as it gets.
(12) LAKERFANINCOWTOWN - Regarding the little dude who died. Truly heartbreaking. I hope he's
in a better place and hope that his family has the support to get through such a terrible event
(13) RICKY - Poor boy
(14) NEWMEXICOLL - My thoughts and Prayers go out to the Tang family, nothing more devestating than to lose a precious child.
(15) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - I am deeply saddened by the death of this poor little boy. What a tragedy. I certainly hope it wasn't a case of neglect, as that would only magnify the horror of it all. RIP sweetie....
(16) MCLYNE - Please add me to the prayer bus. This story really hits home with me because we were
at the game last night. Originally I was planning on bringing our 2 year old, but later realized that it
would be too difficult to keep one on on him and the other on the game. My family will be praying
for the Tang family. A weird coincidence is that the boy's name was Lucas, and my son, whom we decided not to bring is Luke.
(17) J24 - am very much saddened when I read about Lucas Anthony Tang's passing. Very unfortunate situation. Sigh, little angel you're in our prayers. May you rest in peace. Condolences to the Family.
(18) FEARLESS - Please add me to the prayer bandwagon. This is in fact the only reason I'm on the blog today. As a Christian, I know that the baby is in a better place. I also know that the same cannot be said of the parents. I know this from being a father of four. . I cannot imagine more tragic events. I am truly saddened.
(19) JAMIE SWEET - Please add me to the band wagon for the Tang family, as someone who gone through the hell that is suddenly losing a family member before their time, I can only imagine what the Tang's are going throughy with one so young. Stay strong, Tang's, take comfort that one way or another your child has left behind his earthly worries and has progressed onto the next phase of existence. Taking care of your well-being is the best way to honor the fallen, lest they fall in vain.
(20) MAGICPHIL - As a father, I can't even describe how I feel right now. Add me to the prayer bandwagon.
(21) BRONXLAKERFAN - Wow, what a unbelieveably tragic occurence. My deepest sympathies go out to the Tang family. No words can assuage their pain and grief. I hope the Laker organization finds a way to upgrade the safety features in those boxes so that something like this can never happen again. Perhaps in remembrance of this Laker fan, the team can add his initials (L*T) to their jerseys and dedicate this season to a youngster who has been taken away so cruelly.
(22) ZAIRA AMATERASU - First of all, and it's due, add me to the stream of heartfelt condolences for the tragic loss of the baby fan. Edwin worded it so beautifully I can't really add a thing; I can't even begin to process how tragic such a deprivation has to feel. I can't ... I just sense a numbing darkness inside if I do... so our collective vibe sent to those suffering now will be hopefully meaning some more strenght given from above to those so wildly hurt now.
(23) RAMNEETKB24 - That story of the baby is tragic! RIP man
(24) FAN OF THE MAMBA - I was very sadden to hear about the 2 year old boy, my prayers and sympathy go out to his mom and dad.

I think Ricky talks too early, Pau still not that good, but he can be, maybe. :)

Now some pple seems to think Darko is better than Pau, stupid argument, but, its same thing we have been seeing during this years, pple holds every little peace they find to criticise Gasol. But as always, he will come back strong, and shut all those mouths. Yesterday he did a perfect match, i cant imagine what the media would say if koby or Lebron had done it..
Last year I remember very well on this blog, pple saying he sucked , and some pple like RICKY spaniard like me, saying lakers had no chance, because Pau had to play vs 4 forwards... but again... he shut everybodys mouth, and im sure that he will make some bad matches this year, his physical performance will go down on january, but its normal... if he wants to be 100% in playoffs it has to be like that, and we will hear pple criticising him. But... maybe he wins the MVP, i hope so

Ricky and others, as a spanish fan I'm glad too to see Pau growing in this league and achieving all those numbers. We all know that Pau is not the kind of player that usually shines over the rest. He does intangibles to make his team have an edge and he is a team-oriented player by construction and this was maybe his problem in Memphis. People expected him to take control of the games and carry the team to the victories ever. Pau never does anything alone because he learnt to be a team player since he was a kid. So for me all these stats are great and for Gasol should be an honor only to be considered so early for the Hall of Fame. Let's enjoy this moment and wait for more recognition. Magic, Abdul Jabbar, Kobe or even Shaq are GREAT names and when I look at the past and what european basketball was long time ago... to think that Pau is slightly compared to those... It's amazing! Simply enjoy


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