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Lakers Chat: Lakers vs. Chicago Bulls

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The Bulls just bring hustle every time they play im mean real desire

Hold on!

didn't I talk about the Bynum for Noah trade?

I meant to post this in the previous thread. Doesn't bode well for next season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/22/AR2010112206206.html

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Here's today's entry in the 'across the pond' series.(via UK)



Marsha Ambrosius - Hope She Cheats On You (With A B-Ball Player) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0qd3qeC3Ms


Marsha Ambrosius - Late Nights & Early Mornings (2010 J&R Musicfest) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FDXnxoKxPg&feature=related

Marsha Ambrosius - Like This - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kLDqg2HMuE&feature=related

Marsha Ambrosius - Some Type of Way - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UANnAmFXhU&feature=related

Marsha Ambrosius - Let Me Go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUs0icS9ig&feature=related

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

lakers for the three peat but derek rose is a monster

G in DC - another nice musical interlude from you. Much obliged.

http://bit.ly/fOeiLM

“I think the time I did it was perfect.”
-Andrew Bynum’s response when asked about the timing of his knee surgery.


I'd hide my face too Bynum.
What a moron?! The bigger moron here may be Bynum’s publicist. who is allowing Bynum to dig himself into a deeper hole with Lakers fans every time he opens his trap. The “perfect” time? Are you kidding me Bynum? Sure, if you are a hugely selfish and egotistical person, than your surgery happened at the “perfect” time.

"Unfortunately, basketball is a team sport and you put yourself and your vacation time in front of your team. Let’s say that you had your surgery on June 25th, giving you a full week to bench press Playboy Playmates while you gallivant around at the Mansion, you would have been back on the hardwood smoking fools night after night. Instead, you decided that you needed to blow on a vuvuzela all day long and see the World Cup live and in person, thus pushing your surgery date back to July 28th. Douche bag."

"I guess when you have already signed a guaranteed contract for big money, you can do whatever the hell you want, because you’re going to get paid regardless. Great attitude Bynum. It’s no wonder that your best friend on the team is the effeminate Sasha Vujacic. Do yourself a favor Bynum – shut your mouth, get your knee fully rehabbed, get your ace back on the court and earn your paycheck."

Hold on!

didn't I talk about the Bynum for Noah trade?

Posted by: hobbitmage | November 23, 2010 at 09:04 PM


i will do it in a NY minute

Still like the bigger body of Bynum over Noah

I have a theory, Bynum feels he was only paid about 2/3 of what he was really worth, so he only feels the need to play 2/3 of the season

sorry Kobefan in Cupertino | November 23, 2010 at 10:22 PM

i did not see u on the blog lately so i figured i will do this GOOD for our community.

Kobefan in Cupertino deserves CREDITS for this INSIGHTFUL find

Wow Fisher looked lost out there tonight. 0-6 on mostly bad shots. But hey, I'm sure he did tons of great stuff that the box score doesn't show.

But hey, I'm sure he did tons of great stuff that the box score doesn't show.

Posted by: Bay to LA | November 23, 2010 at 10:32 PM

like "INTANGIBLES"??????????????

indeed, it is nothing to otouch in 0, zero, zilch, nada

@GDUB - Nice entry with Marsha. I've been loving her every since the Floetry days. I didn't realize she was from across the pond.

I also caught some of the Wizards game. JWall is that deal.


@hobbit - Noah can flat ball. He brings a different dynamic than Drew. His skills would be a good compliment to Pau's.

Why can't PJ give Caracter more PT? He looked good when he was in the game tonight. I wanted to see Caracter play against Noah when Noah was outplaying/outhustling Gasol. Gasol's minutes seem to catch up his body...The Lakers need either getting a big man or giving Caracter more PT.

"Unfortunately, basketball is a team sport and you put yourself and your vacation time in front of your team. Let’s say that you had your surgery on June 25th, giving you a full week to bench press Playboy Playmates while you gallivant around at the Mansion, you would have been back on the hardwood smoking fools night after night."

I think he used those playboy bunnies for squats instead of the bench. He had them on his shoulders like you would do for doing reps for squatting.

waiting for the sequel

Garbage Gassy - Part II at a site near you, Thursday, Nov 25th, 6PM Pacific.

with Mill and the slapping jazzy hands

and the short film introduction: Fisshhy chasing Williams

I think the Bulls played very good tonight...and we still won! Fish 0-6 and we still won. Pau's tired and Noah had some looks on him...and we still won. He hit a lot of bricks, but we still won.


Team work, good defense (not the best) but team work. Shannon did his thing, Kobe was good...but team work above all.


Cheers.

A few things...

1. Derrick Rose is a monster, and kind of a jerk, it seems.

2. Kobe at times kind of took us out of the offense.

3. We're going to be awesome when Bynum gets back.

{Signing out}

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

A few things:
1.Why is Derrick Rose a jerk ?

2.And why is Fisher on the court against the Bulls when
he doesn't have a prayer of staying with Rose.
And he shoots 0 for 6 with 0 assists ?

Why would you say someone is a jerk and not give any reasons why?

@LakerPeace - I'm with you on Caracter. I thought Phil should have given him some minutes in the first half.

Taj Gibson had a good game, but the Bulls will be better when Boozer returns. Of course, the Lakers swill also be a different team when Bynum returns. Now you know why the Bulls wouldn't trade Noah in the Carmelo deal. He made life difficult for Gasol, but against Bynum he wouldn't have that effect.

Now THAT was a basketball game!

I just returned from Staples. A few observations. 1) Noah AND Rose both get away with murder, but they are both great players. While he is extremely active, Noah mauls guys but only gets called for the ticky tacks. He also sets illegal screens, which I am certain he's improved at since Thib has been here. He throws his hip out on every screen. Rose gets away with throwing his arms out and making contact when he gets to the rim and his repeated bunny hop in the pea patch never gets called because that final hop has been "legalized" this year, even though he takes three steps. I also think that the best thing that happened to this team was NOT getting LeBron or Bosh because Derrick Rose NEEDS the ball in his hands and Taj Gibson is a tougher defender than Bosh for this system. While Boozer is not a great defender, he has never played next to a guy who defends the paint like Noah. If they stay healthy, this team could come out of the East. 2) Tom Thibodeau's a dee-bag. He never sits down and he's on the court all the time. PJ comlained to the refs about it, but nothing happened.

As for our Lakers, Pau & the Four Bees brought us home. Phil Jackson must be having so much fun with all this talent! The perimeter defense was fantastic, and that was WITHOUT Artest on the floor. Blake, Barnes, Brown and Bryant played the kind of perimeter defense down the stretch reminiscent of Game 7. This team is capable of winning any style of basketball. This was a very tough team and only Pau played more than 40 minutes, but the Lakers don't play again until Friday. The luxury of resting starters while the bench gets valuable minutes together finishing games is a luxury that will pay HUGE dividends come playoff time. And what more can you say about Shannon Brown! Great shooting, great defense, great decision making. What a joy!

Justa, I stayed even though it looked touch and go, so now I'm 1-1 this practice season. By the way, I was 6-1 in the playoffs this year.

1-2-3 RING! #17 coming up STRONG!!

KobeMVP888,
I hope you enjoyed the game. It must've been something seeing D. Rose play live. Fortunately, the Lakers are still a couple of notches better than the Bulls. I can see Chicago beating Miami in a best of seven.
Btw, thanks for removing yourself from your seat when the Bulls made some runs. It's starting to become clear why Phil doesn't call timeouts when we think he should. Fans like you, need to be disciplined enough to know when it's time for a beer run or a bathroom break. Obviously, your timing was impeccable tonight. Way to represent!

Laker J

Lol! My pleasure. The one thing about seeing games live is that you can isolate on certain things for stretches of time, so obviously I isolated on Rose and Noah and both are truly great ballplayers. Rose's talent is through the roof, but he's more like Allen Iverson when he was young than a true modern day point guard. All this team needs is Boozer to return and a shooting guard. There is a big void at that position for them. The irony is that they had the cap space to make Shannon Brown a substantial offer, but apparently glossed over him for Ronnie Brewer. It must have driven them nuts to watch this kid destroy them tonight.

To Kobefan in Cupertino: Are you serious? Fish having a horrible year? You've got to be kidding! Fish is STILL hitting big shots late, he's a key defensive player, and is flat out one of the smartest players on the team, let alone the league. Each game, the commentators point out numerous things about what Fish is doing, and none of it suggests that Blake should be replacing him.

Interesting detail on the first page about Shannon Brown being an underachiever his first 4 years in the league. Dude is SO massively improved it's uncanny. You've got him, the biggest surprise on the bench, Matt Barnes who is shocking Lakerland by just how much he's contributing, and more than just effective D. The "3 B's" are doing some damage. Blake is just the PG we needed coming off the bench. The ball movement is just superlative, Blake's progress in the Triangle is off the charts amazing. He distributes the ball, goes to a spot, and winds up several passes later right at his place at the arc, and swishes a 3. Amazing player. Barnes is doing the same thing, swishing 2 or 3 key treys. And working under the boards for rebounds, or putting back misses.

1) Derek Fisher is shooting 54.8% from downtown; his 8.3 ppg is up from last year. He's averaging more assists and is shooting 88.5% from the free throw line this season. Last night, he did have his first poor offensive performance in awhile, but that was only because his shot was off. He did other very smart things on the floor.

2) His defense has been stellar. He was assigned to the 6'8" Luol Deng for the most part last night, not Derrick Rose, who is burning the rest of the NBA for 25 ppg. Deng had a quiet 13 point night on 5-13 shooting. Fish was very physical with him and frustrated him. Remember, in the NBA it is TEAM defense that wins games and Derek Fisher knows where to be, how to communicate and how to lead on defense. It's a definite factor in the Lakers' success.

3) Why would anyone want to alter the chemistry of Company B? Blake, Barnes and Brown are developing a chemistry that has this bench on pace to be one of the greatest in NBA history.

4) Kobefan in Cupertino - there are Lakers fans in mass numbers who feel the way you do about Derek Fisher. Out of curiosity how many years have you been saying the same things about him? How did you feel when he came back to the Lakers in 2007?

CornerJ things to take away from last night’s game against Da Bulls:

1. Phil Jackson is freaking brilliant. The game is see-sawing back and forth for three quarters. Pau has disappeared somewhere in Noah’s armpits. Artest and Fisher can’t hit a shot to save their lives. And Rose is just waltzing in for layup drills whenever he feels like it. 4th quarter comes and Phil decides to demo his new Ferrari…just for the heck of it. He puts in a 4-guard lineup! The Killer Bees Plus MR. B (Kobe). Holy smokes, what an awesome defense! Rose can’t even find a crack in the perimeter, and the closest shots any of the bulls can get are 30 feet out. Our guys are sliding and covering and smothering every single guy out there. AND all four B’s on the floor can (and do) hit 3’s. Awesome!

2. Pau, as good as he is and as much as we love him, just doesn’t like to be crowded. Noah was all over him and completely shut him down. So much for cousin ricky’s contention that he’s better than Kareem. Pau likes space to operate in, both for his shots and for his passes. And he has a hesitation in the setup of his jump shot that gives a quick, long-armed defender like Noah a chance to disturb his shooting rhythm. I don’t recall how many times Noah stuff blocked him, but by the end of the game, Pau was noticeably avoiding taking a jumper whenever Noah was anywhere near him. Noah also poked away about a half dozen inbound passes to Pau. Luckily, most of the centers Pau faces are a lot slower and a lot less crowding than Noah.

3. The Killer Bees-WOW! What can you say? Brown, Blake, and Barnes smoked ‘em from all over the court. And really great defense too. We are SOOOOOOOO lucky to have these guys!

4. Blake as PG. Allow me to point out the non-obvious about this guy. Yes, the obvious is that he shoots great 3’s and that he plays aggressive defense straight up on quick guards, denying them easy penetration. But here’s one of the secrets why he is the key to the overall success of all the Killer Bees, and to our rallies when they are in…he pushes the ball really hard up the floor. Sounds simple doesn’t it? Here’s why it’s major. Unlike Kobe or Fish, who leisurely stroll up the floor with the ball, Blake takes off like a bat out of hell the minute he touches the ball. And every other Laker takes off too knowing that Blake is on the fly. The result is that the defense doesn’t have time to set up. Their guys are out of position and our guys are flying to open spaces. Cut…pass…score. Repeat. This guy is a terrific point guard.

great post Corner J

We got a great squad this year, I wish the bynum and fish bashers would cool it.
As we are seeing in miami, team cohesion is absolutely important. the lakers have that. bynum will start games once his in cus his size disrupts the otherteam and him and pau work together well. then when one bynum goes out, the lakers lose nothing when Lamar goes in. Actually he provides a whole different dynamic for the defense to content with. Thats why he will most finish games unless bynum is hot.
Same with the fish situation. Fish is provide a solid presence, his rep for big shots makes the other team guard him so kobe and pau can operate and if they don't guard him, he will pop some shots. Now, when Blake comes in, its beautiful. what a solid player and since he is a better play maker its essensial for him to be out there with Brown and Barnes. 3 legitimate 3 pt threats makes it hard for the defenders and spreads the court wide out.
love it, love it, love it. don't need to change a thing.
kobe orchestrates and Pau operates. Its when Pau gets pushed around that an Andrew bynum comes in real handy. We got an answer for everything.

CornerJ and 888,

Nice posts, good recaps, I didn't see the game so was nice to read those posts.

Very impressive comentary. The killer B's all pass to each other well so that they get open shots, even Downtown Shannon Brown passed up a shot to get Blake an open shot. You would rarely Farmer or Vuyacich do that.

LO was great, but it was so strange to see him, Fish and Artest resting with 4 min left in a 8 point game. Phil has huge respect and confidence in Blake, Barnes and Downtown Shannon Brown. that will def payoff in later games when the started again leay an egg.

Good thing that the Lakeshow has 3 days rest!

it was really fun to see LO play the center for a few minutes with a small line-up. Is Barnes stealing minutes from Artest?

CornerJ hit the nail on the head, Pau doesn't like to be crowded. Pau knows the diff between a playoff game and the regular season. I wish some one would teach Pau how to clear out harder with the non-shooting hand (works for Rose). If Pau doesn't change, Perkins will largely erase him from the boxscore. Do the Lakers have a practice player that pushes Pau out of his comfort zone on a daily basis to get his used to it? It doesn't look like it!

Lakers did win that game but they had a lot of help from the Bulls (Korver couldn't hit a barn with a cowpie!)

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2) His defense has been stellar. He was assigned to the 6'8" Luol Deng for the most part last night, not Derrick Rose, who is burning the rest of the NBA for 25 ppg. Deng had a quiet 13 point night on 5-13 shooting. Fish was very physical with him and frustrated him. Remember, in the NBA it is TEAM defense that wins games and Derek Fisher knows where to be, how to communicate and how to lead on defense. It's a definite factor in the Lakers' success.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | November 24, 2010 at 07:48 AM

Fisher was on Deng for much of the 1st quarter and Deng looked like a star scorer as a result of it. It was later in the game that Deng struggled and Fisher was either getting burned by Rose or on the bench at that time.

Everyone Fisher tried to guard was scoring and that was the case all game.


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